I believe the best way to sum this up was a meme I saw: Darth Vader ruled an entire galaxy Voldemort couldnt even take over a high school

@gardoc1669

18 күн бұрын

But both of these statements aren't true, you know

@theanarchist7575

17 күн бұрын

@@gardoc1669 Im fully aware of that, the meme im referencing is meant to oversimplify the massive gap between Vader and Voldemort

@BattleshipAgincourt

14 күн бұрын

No Vader was the slave of a man that ruled the galaxy.

@creed8712

13 күн бұрын

Which school was that cause last I remember Hogwarts was under his control 😊

@theanarchist7575

13 күн бұрын

@@BattleshipAgincourt I just said I am aware that the meme Im referencing was not a hundred percent accurate, I was just explaining the power gap between Vader and Voldemort

Voldemort: “You will lose everything.” Darth Vader: “You don’t know the power of the Dark Side.”

@lucifermorningstar4500

21 күн бұрын

Darth Vader: "I already did."

@darkscripterr

20 күн бұрын

@@lucifermorningstar4500 thats deep but true

@EwingAmaterasu

18 күн бұрын

Darth Vader: “ I will gain much watching you die”

@HybridRenoII

16 күн бұрын

"I already have, now you will feel the power of the darkside and then you will die!"

@piercemchugh4509

15 күн бұрын

​@@lucifermorningstar4500 Voldemort: "I AM the darkness."

"Lord Vader, we've pinpointed the disturbance you spoke of on the small planet below. Shall I ready your shuttle?" "No. Commence planetary bombardment. I have other concerns."

@crazyworld54321

12 күн бұрын

Bro....quite the underrated comment here! I mean seriously, the levels are just dumb here.

@robertalix8147

5 күн бұрын

Fire the DS1 Orbital Battle Station!

@EC-zu4tw

4 күн бұрын

“I find your lack of faith disturbing”

@YoLo-bb2vc

2 күн бұрын

Devastator Captain: "Lord Vader, we've pinpointed the disturbance you spoke of on the small planet below. Shall I ready your shuttle?" Darth Vader: "No. Commence planetary bombardment. I have other concerns." Devastator Captain: "PREPARE FOR BASE DELTA ZERO!!!!! confirm with High Command that we are free to commence with base delta zero." Communications Officer: High Command has allowed the use of Base Delta Zero. all that is left of earth is the howling sounds of the devastators plasma blasts turning all life and buildings into molten slag, leaving earth a lifeless husk of a world. Base Delta Zero for those that dont know is the command that allows a fleet commander to turn Alderaan into the asteroids it became only they usuallya re barren husks with no life on it not asteroids. it was not a command freely used and in fact in order for it to be allowed, High Command on Coruscant had to be informed and only once High command had signed off could it even be commenced such was the severity of the act as often a Base Delta Zero on inhabited worlds would lead to a rise in potential rebellions......... ok perhaps someone should have informed that BDZ'ing Alderaan was a bad idea to Tarkin.

@generalbutterscotch4887

Күн бұрын

Funnily enough, depending on what point in Vader's life this is, he might actually have a vested interest in personally checking out HP Earth just to make sure their magic isn't powered by some sort of Jedi/Sith artifact he can use to one-up his master. 💀

Voldemort does not have longer range. Vader does not even have to be on the same planet to Force choke.

@niteshadeshimonzu3305

16 күн бұрын

Literally force choked a dude solar systems away while on facetime lmfao

@theminerwithin9316

13 күн бұрын

As long as Vader knows exactly where someone is or can see them in any way, he can Force choke them.

@thepsychicspoon5984

12 күн бұрын

​@@niteshadeshimonzu3305 IKR. He forced choked him on the Zoom.

@TrueMohax

11 күн бұрын

Wrong kind of “range”

@TroySavary

11 күн бұрын

@@TrueMohax There is only one kind of "range" being discussed here. Who can attack from farther away. And noseless loses by a long shot.

"All i am surrounded by is fear.. And dead men"🥶 -Darth Vader

@linda-0587

16 күн бұрын

*Proceeds to completely OBLITERATE an entire armored battalion, several attack squads and bomber wing without even breathing hard*

@FrancisL4D

15 күн бұрын

@@linda-0587 Epic

@arekpetrosian4965

14 күн бұрын

@@linda-0587 Awesomely terrifying display of his power.

@MikeMcclendon1377

12 күн бұрын

Ooohhh... That's deep

I'd rather see Count Dooku vs Voldemort in a Chess match. The gentlemanly insults and comebacks would be one for the ages.

@darklighter8968

5 күн бұрын

Good sir you win the Internet for today IMO

@painpega

3 күн бұрын

@@darklighter8968prepare the certificate of internet champion for this man

@darthbane5357

Күн бұрын

​@@darklighter8968Why do people say this? It sounds like the most redditor expression ever.

Kind of hard to speak the casting spells when getting forced choked.

@BastardlyDove

18 күн бұрын

Voldemort is likely skilled enough to cast it without speaking, not that it would help him much.

@Teddy-tx7wb

17 күн бұрын

yeah, that was my thought. can't speak. having your wand "forced" our of your hand, or snapped in half... the only way oldie gone Voldie might possibly win is a sneak attack while Vader is asleep. and maybe even then the force would pre-cog it. and we watched Luke crush those death robo troopers (whatever they are called) when rescuing Baby yoda.... I'm sure Vader could squish Voldy like that

@BastardlyDove

17 күн бұрын

@@Teddy-tx7wb The problem would be, vader likely only sleeps in his specialized chambers, constantly moving through space. Voldemort wouldn't know where that is and if he did it would be hard and dangerous to teleport to it due to the constant difference in distance and speed. If he were to do it from a planet he might also be stunned due to immediate changes in pressure and oxygen level. If he were to do that in vader's chamber, he might sense him. If voldemort somehow gets himself a spaceship and tracks the location of vader, he would also need to know where he exactly is, if he were to raid the ship then he would likely be spotted. Assuming that the troopers do their job they either shoot him on sight or hold him at gunpoint at which they would shoot him if he tried casting a spell from either speaking or moving his wand. If they have their popularized aim then they would likely wake vader up or vader would wake up sensing what's happening. Oh, and if he were to enter with death eaters they would be guarenteed to be spotted at which point it will likely immediately go to vader waking or being woken up.

@Teddy-tx7wb

15 күн бұрын

@@BastardlyDove no disagreement.

@BastardlyDove

15 күн бұрын

@@Teddy-tx7wb I'm glad.

Voldemort not only couldn’t beat a teenage boy, but there are literally no dueling feats that help him. Even going against Dumbledore , that man was old as hell.

@krxwnvxk3432

21 күн бұрын

Plus magic wouldn’t work on the force because it’s too slow and u have to speak. Vader could literally freeze him before he opens his mouth and twist his neck in one breath

@leroydelrey9438

21 күн бұрын

@@krxwnvxk3432 Like I know there’s non verbal magic, but the wind up or the specific wand movements needed are taking him outta there. And we haven’t seen him accomplish anything of the sort when it comes to this level of threat.

@alexanderlarsson425

21 күн бұрын

Super disingenuous comment. Lol you lack critical thinking

@f.m848

21 күн бұрын

Didn't Vader lose to a kid who never even lifted a lightsaber until 4 years ago?

@elderliddle2733

20 күн бұрын

@f.m848 No he didn’t. If you are speaking of Kal Kestis, kal got his ass handed to him and even got stabbed with his own weapon. Cere Junda lost and died. She put up a good fight, but lost.

"Avada Kedavra is an unblockable spell" Harry Potter: Hold my butterbeer.

@kalebgamez808

6 күн бұрын

Voldemort used the spell against harry using two different wands, both having different reasons for being blockable. His wand had a tail feather from the same Phoenix who’s tail feather was in Harry’s, meaning that the wands were twins, meaning they can wound, but not fatality harm each other with those wands. The other wand was the elder wand, the most powerful wand ever created. That one didn’t work because Voldemort wasn’t the wands master. Sorry for the yap session

@MrSasukeSusanoo

5 күн бұрын

@@kalebgamez808 Well in the book the ending was different though, it's true the elder wand was loyal to Harry, but Harry didn't defeat Voldemort in the same way. He casted expelliarmus so fast that Voldemort's avada kedavra was in mid-casting when his wand flew away. By flewing away, just when the wand was pointing at him, the curse was fully casted and hit himself. It wouldn't be an epic emotional scene in the cinema I suppose, it's a very fast ending for the final battle, but that's what happened, Harry got actually better at dueling and defeated Voldemort fair and square at that time.

@kalebgamez808

5 күн бұрын

@@MrSasukeSusanoo Thanks for the info. I didn't read the books because I have the attention span of a goldfish when it comes to reading

@getBhavinShah

3 күн бұрын

Would Vader not be able to stop the blast mid air like a blaster bolt

@tetsatou2815

2 күн бұрын

@@getBhavinShah No, he's just need to strangle Moldy Voldy. Either with the Force or the old fashioned way. Don't forget that Vader is strong enough to just strangle someone one handed while giving them the Chokeslam from Hell.

Hard to cast spells when you're being forced choked, and your wand is pulled from your hand.

@genocidalyoukai7890

17 күн бұрын

hard to die when you’re immortal 🤷‍♂️

@genobreaker1054

17 күн бұрын

@@genocidalyoukai7890 eh, maybe hard to stay dead, but just as hard to come back again

@perc_nowitzki4735

17 күн бұрын

There are wizards in the Harry Potter universe powerful enough to cast without their wands, or without saying the spell. Don’t know about bout together though

@Shoddragon

16 күн бұрын

@@perc_nowitzki4735 spells cast without a wand are significantly less powerful and from what I can recall casting super powerful spells without one either isn’t possible at all or they are reduced to such a degree that it’s a waste of magic.

@coreywigent7693

15 күн бұрын

Wizards don't need wands to perform magic and can cast non verbal spells

Full potential anakin is not even needed

@Deyone_Jackson

17 күн бұрын

We're going ULTRA MAGA🗿💯

@applecore8978

15 күн бұрын

"Accio Respirator" *Flies away in smoke form

@JacktheStripper-tc5pn

13 күн бұрын

Return of the Jedi Vader is his prime and he hadn't even reached his peak yet

@MrSasukeSusanoo

5 күн бұрын

even jedi padawan Anakin neg diffs Voldemort

@ttvkyberwolf6659

2 күн бұрын

@@applecore8978Given the timeline of Harry Potter, Voldemort wouldn’t know that word.. He wouldn’t know what a lightsaber is, and he wouldn’t understand the force or be able to counter it.

Voldemort: "AVAD-" *getting force choked* Vader: "Do not scream"

@BastardlyDove

18 күн бұрын

Voldemort: *starts casting avada kedavra without speaking* Vader: *already took his wand*

@RafaelSantos-cm9xy

18 күн бұрын

@@BastardlyDove but they can't use the Curses without casting, right?

@BastardlyDove

18 күн бұрын

@@RafaelSantos-cm9xy In Harry Potter if ur skilled enough u can cast spells without speaking them. If there was something that didn't let u do so for curses I would believe it would be mentioned in the book. And the forbidden spells aren't different from curses except for being lawfully forbidden. I could be wrong ofcourse at which I would like to be corrected.

@Shoddragon

16 күн бұрын

@@BastardlyDove it's true that nonverbal, wandless and non verbal wandless magic exists but it's really only something that exists consistently in non-european cultures (aka people like Native americans, african witches/wizards, etc) and we are never even hinted at the idea that even someone like Voldemort was able to do so and cast high level spells/curses at full power. Ultimately when it came down to it, characters like Dumbledore and even Voldemort himself chose to use their wands when performing their most powerful spells. Voldemort went out of his way to try obtaining the Elder Wand precisely because wands DID make a huge difference.

@BastardlyDove

16 күн бұрын

@@Shoddragon I was talking about nonverbal magic that did use wands, unless u made an error, I was not aware that there was use of magic that didn't involve wands. Although I do think I agree with the part where voldemort might not be skilled enough to cast avada kedavra without speaking. Also, where do u get the part that nonverbal wandless magic only consistently in non-Europian cultures?

The force shows Vader that the wand of the source of much of Voldemort's power. Darth yanks wand with the force, pins Voldemort's hands and mouth, game, set match

@hotobrownie5971

20 күн бұрын

Voldy can do wandless magic though

@simonacerton3478

20 күн бұрын

@@hotobrownie5971 Yes. That is why you pin the hands and mouth. It might not stop him but will reduce his power.

@tommoore2012

18 күн бұрын

Voldemort uses legilimency to read Vader's mind and knows what the Sith is about to do.

@godrevan10

18 күн бұрын

@@tommoore2012 Wouldn't work for the same reason the Imperius Curse is useless: Vader's constant pain fueling the Dark Side maintains a shield around his mind. Occlumency is all about mental discipline. Harry struggled with it because he couldn't control his emotions. The Dark Side is all about weaponizing your emotions and using them to fuel your Force powers. As Sidious said in ROTS: "Your anger gives you focus, makes you stronger." Novice practitioners of the Dark Side just drown themselves in their emotions to get a massive power boost (similar to what Luke did in ROTJ when he almost fell to the Dark Side) but experienced Dark Side users know how to wield their emotions while retaining their rationality, which requires a great deal of mental discipline. If Voldemort tried Legilimency against Vader, the only thing he'd see is an unbreakable wall of emotional energy fueled by decades of pain and rage.

@JonasRosado

17 күн бұрын

​@@tommoore2012the force can protect against mind reading. It's shown that mind reading is also a force ability and if the novice rey can do it, the potential strongest sith definitely can

Force chokes before Tom can wave his wand

@Arthur-oy4nj

19 күн бұрын

No

@BastardlyDove

18 күн бұрын

@@Arthur-oy4nj Yes

@TeamValkyrie2023

17 күн бұрын

​​@@Arthur-oy4nju do know vader can force choke from thousands of kilometers away right? He can force choke voldemort without even having to be on the same planet through a TV screen. Ask admiral ozzel. So hands down vader wins and doesn't even get close enough for voldemort to use killing curse. One Facebook FaceTime call and fight is over

@gardoc1669

17 күн бұрын

@@TeamValkyrie2023 Show me one TV screen in the wizarding world

@Arthur-oy4nj

17 күн бұрын

@@TeamValkyrie2023 Voldemort has horcraxes

“DARTH VADER! Finally, an opponent worth my-“ *force choke*

@katerinamikaelson1416

6 күн бұрын

Yeah and this is exactly the problem. Thinking voldemort can't handle a force choke 😂 it proves how little you know about his power

@andrewszigeti2174

6 күн бұрын

@@katerinamikaelson1416 The magic system in the Potterverse is based on incantations. Hard to talk when being force choked. Valdie's only chance is to take down Vader before Vader figures out how to totally shut down his magic. That means one spell, two at ABSOLUTE most. But like most villains, Valdie likes to gloat, which in this case will be terminal. Vader, on the other hand, has free hand to gloat all he wants once he figures out the magic system. He can interrupt Voldie's casting at will, choke him until he's almost passed out, let him get a few breaths in, choke him some more, and gloat the whole time to his villainous content.

@katerinamikaelson1416

6 күн бұрын

@@andrewszigeti2174 no it's in fact not. Exactly my point. You folks no nothing about the Wizarding world which is why your argumentation is simply incorrect. Powerful wizards in the Wizarding world can use magic without incantations. Tom Riddle is one of the most powerful. He doesn't need a wand nor does he need his mouth. The rest of your comment is your imagination. There is no canon on how the force interacts with magic and you merely made it up. Fact remains we DO NOT KNOW.

@katerinamikaelson1416

6 күн бұрын

@@andrewszigeti2174 oh and maybe there is a Canon about star wars magic. Obviously I am talking about Wizarding world magic tho

@andrewszigeti2174

6 күн бұрын

@@katerinamikaelson1416 Valdie went down to a flippin' teenager. Vader had to be taken down by the EMPEROR. No compariosn.

Also, take away the main weapons: Vader - would still be able to force to choke him, snap his neck, throw him around like a ragdoll, etc. Voldemort - just becomes a guy who really likes year-round Halloween

@EventualWarlord

13 күн бұрын

Hey regard, Voldemort can use magic without a wand.

@a_diamond

11 күн бұрын

​@@EventualWarlord Fair but Force users can use the Force without a lightsaber as well, and only one of them can bomb a planet from orbit ;)

@xarbinchaoticneutral1785

10 күн бұрын

@@EventualWarlord damn bro you pearl clutched your fandom so hard that you used a cleverly guised word to mask your ableist slur. nice job...

@EventualWarlord

10 күн бұрын

@@a_diamond And only one of them is immortal :)

@EventualWarlord

10 күн бұрын

@@xarbinchaoticneutral1785 You’re really crying over a word? Grow up regard.

No, Anakin was not yet the most powerful Jedi--he had the "potential" to be the most powerful. Also, Sidious did not concede that Anakin WAS more powerful; during their lightsaber battle, Sidious told Yoda that Vader "WILL BE" more powerful than them.

@Casualplayerone

21 күн бұрын

Not to mention he forgot to mention vaders ability of dun mac to get inside the head and exploit a person’s personal weaknesses a lot was left out on vaders part but I do agree Vader slaps

@ultimatemagneto3354

21 күн бұрын

I've pointed out this flaw in another video...

@NefariousOsiris

21 күн бұрын

Facts

@alexanderlarsson425

21 күн бұрын

Anakins entire RotS arc is him becoming stronger than the Jedi. The passage referenced is from the RotS adult novel, where Sheev tells Dooku on the IH that Anakin might be stronger than himself.

@AustinMulkaMusic

21 күн бұрын

He became Vader before the suit. It’s not like the suit made him Vader.

Vader: "Horcruxes? Funny that, I have been sensing your presence in the Force in about half a dozen places ever since I came to this planet. Might as well go take a look. **Breaks Voldemort's wand with the Force, grabs him by the neck and goes for a stroll.**

@mrghostly1118

4 күн бұрын

xd yeah, after all vader could sense the whole Galaxy, and the same sidious

Vader: a twig as your weapon of choice? *wand snaps in voldemorts hand*

Vader would win hands down. Walks in and Force chokes Voldemort while holding him in the air. Yeah Voldemort's spirit can't be killed but his physical body can and it would obviously take a huge amount of time to get a new body for the rematch, plus if Vader really wanted he could actually study up a bit on Dark Side rituals and imprison or possibly even absorb Voldemort's soul into himself. Magic is very versatile yeah but in almost all its forms you need to be able to move or talk which Vader can stop easily

@acegaming7301

20 күн бұрын

Also, Sith have magic too. It's called darkside alchemy. It's a mix of force powers and black magic. The nightsisters of Dathomir outright state that magic exists and is completely different from the power of the force. And the sith can harness it. Edit: I mean proper magic. Shit that allows you to transform into birds and throw fireballs type shit.

@Fact-fiend_1000ASMR.

14 күн бұрын

​​@@acegaming7301Zannah was quite proficient in Sith Sorcery and could cause pain to such a degree that even Bane considered it to be the greatest pain he had ever felt. Bane, by the way, had experienced unbelievable pain over the course of years via orbalisks and yet a single attack by Zannah exceeded all of that.

@anthonyobryan3485

7 күн бұрын

Voldemort's immortality could easily be used against him by Vader. Vader could easily disable Voldemort, remove his wand, and encase him in some type of metal box where he would stay for a very long time. And Vader being Vader, that would just be the start. He would research and discover the Horcruxes, locate them, and keep them for later use.

@Fact-fiend_1000ASMR.

7 күн бұрын

@@anthonyobryan3485 Carbonite.

@rarescevei8268

5 күн бұрын

​@@Fact-fiend_1000ASMR. The force, to be used, requires concentration. Voldemort aiming his wand at Vader and shooting the instakill spell at him takes less time. We see that this is how Voldemort treats non wizards, and there is literarly no reason for him to treat Vader differently. If Vader is very fast he will start choking Voldemort a millisecond before dying.

Voldermort, could not even take over a school. Vader held a Galaxy in his hand.

@matthewstorm4135

19 күн бұрын

No. Sidious had his galaxy in his hands. Vader had no interest in managing the Empire and instead more focused on hunting remaining Jedi.

@cadeshanley218

19 күн бұрын

He did control a whole region of the country. Not the whole country but still impressive.

@JonasRosado

17 күн бұрын

​@@matthewstorm4135 true BUT sidous heavily relied on vader and the inquisitors

@martimking1craft

15 күн бұрын

A Farmer boy lead to the end of a empire. a school of magic protected by the strongest wizards of the country defeated Voldemort who at that point had control over the government in the shadows. makes me wonder how good you think sidius and vader is

@JonasRosado

14 күн бұрын

@@martimking1craft that farmer boy is the offspring of a Jedi with the largest midiclorian count in history, he's an extraordinarily gifted pilot, and he was trained by the strongest force user in Jedi history. Even with ALL OF THAT, Luke didn't brute force his win. Vader was already conflicted and killed sidious. Lets be real here, if Vader had not turned back to the light, Luke would NOT have won.

I think one thing worth mentioning here, is that in a head to head fight neither is going to have any idea what the other is capable of, and both have issues with being arrogant. That being said, Voldemort tends to be far more arrogant and likely to underestimate his opponent, while Vader has force precog to aid him. Thus the moment voldemort tries to arrogantly cast a spell, vader's force precog will alert him to the danger allowing him to either block the attack with his lightsaber or use the force to wrench the wand away. And at that point Voldemort is pretty much defenseless since the force can act faster than voldy's spells. Thus force precog always allows vader to be ready for whatever Voldy throws, while Voldy has no idea what Vader has in his arsenal until snake boy is already hit with it. So Vader Stomps hard.

@Verdigo76

10 күн бұрын

Anakin fought in the clone wars and became a brilliant tactician. I think Vader would recognize a weapon when he sees one and disarm him immediately. Can't concentrate on a spell when you're being force crushed.

@AntonRosenkranz

2 күн бұрын

You do know Voldemort can read minds Just by standing in your vacinity easily. Therefore Voldemort would Always know what Vader is up to.

@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818

2 күн бұрын

@@AntonRosenkranz vader's precog allows him to see that coming before Voldemort can use it. meaning before Voldemort even has a chance to use it he is already getting force crushed. and voldemort it terms of his reaction speed, is not faster than a baseline human, where vader has both super human reaction speeds and force precog. Voldemorts mind reading ability cannot see into the future, where vader's force sensitivity can.

Vader just fucking blitzes and one taps him LMFAO. The speed gap alone is fucking monstrous but Vader's far superior range and AP mean that Voldy just... dies horribly.

@Arthur-oy4nj

19 күн бұрын

I do not think so

@Shoddragon

18 күн бұрын

@@Arthur-oy4nj The speed gap is enormous. The prequel novelizations had Obi-Wan moving his lightsaber so fast to stop droid laser fire that it looked as though he had created a laser wall and this incarnation of Obi Wan would get fortnite danced on by Prime Vader. Characters weaker than Vader like Kylo Ren during his first appearance could stop lasers mid air AFTER they had been fired without even moving his hands. Bottom tier jedi could consistently laser-time due to force precog. range wise, Vader has planetary+ range with the force and can even force choke people from a different part of the galaxy. AP wise: Vader can casually crush things like AT-AT's which far surpass Voldy's durability and fight creatures/force users who far exceed anything Voldy can dream of. " It's a stomp.

@Arthur-oy4nj

18 күн бұрын

@@Shoddragon We do not know if Yedi could stop spells and of Wizards could be damaged by the force. So it is almost imposible to let one of the 2 winn. It are just 2 different stories

@JonasRosado

17 күн бұрын

​@@Arthur-oy4njhe doesn't need to block it. He can literally crush voldemorts wand before he casts a spell or enhance his speed and get up in his face before he can react

@Shoddragon

17 күн бұрын

@@Arthur-oy4nj Vader has shown resistance to magic like that of the Muur talisman (the talisman that turns people into Rakghouls) and wizards can be damaged by literally anything. Harry Potter characters typically have average human stats and can amp themselves a bit with shield spells but not to the level that they could withstand Vader's AP. Even old dying characters like Yoda can casually lift things like X-Wings out of swamps and we've seen characters like Vader or weaker stop things like freighters mid-flight easily. There's nothing stopping Vader from immediately force choking voldermort and holding his entire body still with the force and crushing him to death. Even with the horcruxes we have nothing to suggest that Voldemort has infinite regeneration or something.

"Avada kad...ack!...ack!" (Chokes out and dies) "I find your lack of power disappointing"

Darth Vadar's main weakness opponents having the high ground

@MyAramil

14 күн бұрын

He corrected that mistake by learning saber throw.

@soundwave6366

11 күн бұрын

@@MyAramil good catch. Especially seen in ROTJ against his son Luke.

@mitchellstanding1548

10 күн бұрын

Don't forget sand

@darthbane5357

Күн бұрын

Not actually

@BogWarThunder

16 сағат бұрын

​@@mitchellstanding1548 second hand weakness

Vader to Voldemort: WE WOULD BE HONORED IF YOU WOULD JOIN US

@user-gz2pf1wc6l

20 күн бұрын

nah i dont even think he would be a good inquisitor

@mikielsahagun6054

20 күн бұрын

YOU WILL JOIN ME OR DIE!!!!- Vader

@jasonlauritsen5587

19 күн бұрын

Vader wouldn't recruit a bit-chas nerd who waves around a twig

@ekramer2478

17 күн бұрын

@@jasonlauritsen5587 Harsh! But true unless Vader saw an advantage to the use of him. Probably a temporary one.

@rarescevei8268

5 күн бұрын

*turns vader into a bug and squashes him*

As a huge HP fan, I don't believe any wizard can hold up against any force user. Most spells are point and shoot. So a force user can easily sense and block or dodge the spells. While a wizard has no defence against the force. It's not even really a fight.

@iio_moon

13 күн бұрын

Shield charms block all kinds of attacks including telepathy and telekinesis. This alone gives defense against all force abilities while canon force users have no defense against wizards hax powers like Transifugration.

@andrewmayer7272

6 күн бұрын

Also, magic relies on intent, hostile intent is all it takes to clue in a high-powered force user to your presence

@Spacemarine_Cassiel

3 күн бұрын

​@@iio_moonForce is everywhere. It's is explained like a very small particles that only some creatures can controll.

@iio_moon

3 күн бұрын

@Spacemarine_Cassiel That's irrelevant to my comment but you're partially correct

@nucleargandhi3759

Күн бұрын

@@iio_moonit's questionable it a shield could actually block the force because the force is everywhere meaning it's already going to be past any shield that you could put up. There's not energy being sent out like a spell would use.

If expelliarmus works I could see Vader just force pulling it back before it even gets a foot away from him.

@Mark-in8ju

15 күн бұрын

...or the lightsaber not even leaving his hydraulic grip in the first place.

@ladyv5655

15 күн бұрын

Or Vader fires his saber, blade-first towards Voldemort, skewering him with it, before force-pulling it back. "All too easy."

@speedreaper666

15 күн бұрын

@@ladyv5655 yeah cuz he can't just dodge or turn to smoke lol

@MyAramil

14 күн бұрын

Or simply just asked "do you think I need that trinket to deal with you" as less of a question and more of a statement.

@cloric1

13 күн бұрын

“Expelliarmus!” *light sabre flys 2 feet before Vader pulls it back” Vader :- “You do not know, the power, of the Dark side” Voldimort “ schkkllrrrghhh “ * force choking

I think the light saber is Vader's single biggest X-factor in his favor for this fight. That thing is pure condensed, compressed energy. Any spell that Voldemort throws at Vader will get either blocked, deflected or absorbed by the saber. Its pretty much the ultimate counter for any physical or energy based attack, with magic being its own form of energy.

@valerwolf255

21 күн бұрын

I agree but blocking every energy based attack is very far fetched there’s plenty of energy based attacks that would obliterate a light saber lol. Not saying Voldemort could do that but still.

@joshalan5125

21 күн бұрын

​@@valerwolf255which attacks are you thinking would destroy a saber? Blasts from the infinity gauntlet? Im genuinely asking.

@Marinanor

21 күн бұрын

Avada Kedavra will destroy Vader's lightsaber, or at least disarm him.

@tomasalvarezgarcia-blanco1412

21 күн бұрын

​@@joshalan5125 reality warping attacks. Well, with those attacks you wouldn't exactly be destroying the saber, just turning it into a stick for example

@Marinanor

21 күн бұрын

@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner Magic is not The Force.

Vader winning a lightsaber battle with 3rd sister while unarmed and ONE HANDED is possibly the biggest flex ever.

@Manostion

Күн бұрын

Peak cringe for Vader. I would even say peak cringe for the franchise, but the Acolyte exists.

Darth Vader killed millions and ruled a whole entire galaxy Voldemort couldn't even take over a high school

Why do these "vs." things always go against Darth Vader, and not his BOSS? Seriously, you beat Vader, and you just hear "Goood.....GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDD! EVERYTHING has transpired according to MY design!"

Who came to the comments to find someone defending Voldemort 😂

@ARJDReacts

17 сағат бұрын

Me

Voldemort would shit his robes if he could tell how powerful in the Force that Darth Vader was.

Not vader being able to snap voldemort's neck as soon as the fight starts

All I know Is I would hate facing either in combat...

Can you talk about why Harry Potter vs Luke Skywalker isn’t even close because this debate been around since this whole Star Wars vs Harry Potter happened online along with Yoda vs Dumbledore

@williamsummerson1204

21 күн бұрын

Luke vs Harry is a bigger stomp than this one.

@spiffygonzales5160

21 күн бұрын

This is Disney Luke, not legends Luke. At least that's what I'm guessing since he went with Disney Vader here. I'd say Harry stance a chance, albeit a small one, of beating Disney Luke. Legends Luke would chunk a black hole in his direction tho

@williamsummerson1204

21 күн бұрын

@@spiffygonzales5160 I get what you're saying.

@zaebegaye4320

19 күн бұрын

@williamsynmerson1204. Legends Luke would destroy Hogwarts with one push of the Force it wouldn’t even be close for Harry Potter to fight him

@williamsummerson1204

19 күн бұрын

@@zaebegaye4320 I absolutely agree

Voldemort kept losing to a little kid. Vader slaughtered Jedi for over 20 years

@TanosProductions

4 күн бұрын

nah he didn't slaughter them, he toyed with them before brutally killing them and their families

@loganwebb1171

4 күн бұрын

@@TanosProductionswhich, one could argue, is FAR worse

crazy how this is even a debate

Man, I'm not gonna get too deep into this because I really don't have a dog in this argument either way, but I JUST need to tell you, you have a VERY... "basic, rudimentary" idea of how the Unforgivable Curses work. Chiefly referring to "Crucio," or the "Cruciatus Curse," and Avadakedavra. The Cruciatus is more than just the biological-level of pain that Vader would feel from his wounds, it's deliberately crafted as a Spell to make you feel, "Pain beyond imagining," but also to prevent you from blacking out, which would be the mind's natural defense-mechanism from pain overload. And 2, the whole, "Avadakedavra needs to connect with flesh to work." No... No it doesn't. If you're wearing a suit of armor, or a kevlar vest, or you ductape a bunch of phone-books to your body, it doesn't matter. It's no different than getting struck by lightning while wearing a kevlar vest. If the spell hits whatever is on you, it goes THROUGH that and it severs your soul from your body without causing any physical damage. It just KILLS. It IS "deaths touch" in spell-form. Vader wearing his machine-suit or mechanical body-parts of any kind would not make a difference. Other than that, interesting video.

@Abraxun

7 күн бұрын

someone speaking facts finally

@Fabboi_unl

16 сағат бұрын

Yes! I thought the exact same thing, especially about Crucio. It would definitely not just feel "like a tickle" to Vader. Vader would probably still withstand it through sheer willpower, but it would hurt him a lot, just like it does for everyone else. I'm not saying Voldemort would win, but pretending he could do nothing to Vader is also wrong.

@charlieluth6185

8 сағат бұрын

Yea until Vader snaps his neck it would literally take him 2 seconds in rogue one he broke a rebels neck easily with the force and he can do that much faster then Voldemort can mutter Avada Kedavra and even if he did Vader would just block it

TWO WORDS: Force crush

It’s basically a fight between science vs magic.

@mattmorehouse9685

15 күн бұрын

When is the Force science?

@someonlinedouche6992

15 күн бұрын

​@@mattmorehouse9685midichlorians

@stargazer-elite

12 күн бұрын

@@mattmorehouse9685 it is magic for our world, but it is a natural well… Force in the Star Wars universe meaning it is scientifically studied, but I think the commentary means a lot of Vader stuff is from his tech. The light saber the suit the force is the main weapon for this fight, but still.

@valentinlageot4101

9 күн бұрын

@@mattmorehouse9685 without the force there wouldn't be life in Star Wars it surrounds all living things and bind us all together. even if you aren't a jedi you have midichlorian, to be a force user you just need to have a nescessary count of midichlorian. meanwhile magic is just magic. it has no effect on Harry Potters world if it didn't exist in fact most don't know it exist

Cant powerful sith stave off death? So couldn't he just tank the death curse? And wouldn't the torture curse only help his force powers like his annoying suit does?

@ifarded4986

21 күн бұрын

Yes and no. The sith that did that were either heavily corrupted ie. Palpatine in the rise of skywalker, or only in a weakened spirit form like Marka Ragnos. The dark side is antithetical to life so when they try to prolong it things tend to get fucky. As for tanking it, maybe if he were to preform essence transfer, he may be able to pull it off but it's not something you do in a fight. It's more of a ritual thing and it never really goes well for sith.

@PJigggy

21 күн бұрын

Maul lived solely due to his intense hatred. Darth Vader would probably be able to tank the death curse.

@spiffygonzales5160

21 күн бұрын

If going by legends then yes. And Vader BEFORE he knew Luke was his son might be able to do it, since Anakin Skywalker was for all intents and purposes gone. We don't know for sure if he could, and even if he could Palpatine never taught him immortality, meaning he would become like Darth Sion or Darth Nihlus. People always go "OMG look how powerful Nihlus is he eats planets" but Vader or Palps are definitely stronger than Nihlus. Nihlus HAS to eat planets worth of life to survive, that's not a strength. Anywho I'm getting off topic, if Vader did have to do that I'm calling it a tie because any chance at immortality for Vader would be lost and he'd most certainly become a slave to the dark side. Yea, he'd beat mr no nose... but hell is a real place in Legends StarWars, and I would most definitely give Vader the ultimate L if he ended up there because of a fight with Voldemort.

@FrancisL4D

16 күн бұрын

No, the death curse would be a one shot but voldemort needs to even hit vader first. The speed gap is crazy even if you just look at movie vader.

@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818

15 күн бұрын

Vader has force precog, so he can see the attack coming before Voldy even casts it, and Vader isn't stupid, he would stop the killing curse before it was even fired.

This is a excellent example of a phenomena in VS Debates I call "Material Quantity Bias", which basically means that whoever has more material is naturally favored. If we only has the original Star Wars trilogy, Volds would probably be favored, but Star Wars is a series where there is vastly more auxilliary material than source material while Harry Potter still has very little actual auxiliary material to go with the books, hell, there is probably more Darth Vader books than Harry Potter books. Because Star Wars is 99,5% worldbuilding/auxiliary material by volume, Vader has a near endless list of feats, skills and powers to analyze while Voldy has very little due to the lack of material and Rowlings wobbly worldbuilding. The result of this is that whenever we bring up a feat or skill of Volds, there is ALWAYS a skill or feat of Vader that trumps it, simply because there is just so damn much Vader material.

@mattmorehouse9685

15 күн бұрын

You make a good point. The more media a franchise has the more likely it'll have writers trying to out do each other on how powerful the characters are, and so have more power creep. Like how comics have several forms of ultimate supposedly all powerful gods stacked on top of one another. "No, wait. This ultimate white and gold colored being is totally the most powerful god of the setting!" Then two months later there's another really freaking high energy being who's totally more powerful.

@renato360a

14 күн бұрын

This doesn't change the facts though. It just explains how the facts could have come to be. Also this doesn't take away any merit from Vader. There have been other works in the Potterverse aside from the books and likely none of it expanded upon Volde's powers. Even you try to argue that "there could be any number of powerful spells unexplored in world of the books that didn't come to fruition in the story", the fact of the matter is that these potential powers went unexplored for a reason: JK Rowling set Voldemort as the most powerful Wizard, so even if he could get several times more powerful, he would never actually do it because there was never going to be any need. It's probable that 20 other HP books, had them been written, would not push the envelope on what Voldemort was able to do. Vader, on the other hand, by the story of just the first three movies, had to be as strong as he was.

@mattmorehouse9685

13 күн бұрын

@@renato360a Considering Vader's powers greatly expanded from the OT, nevermind the first movie, I fail to see your point. Saying that a character is already strong in the initial media doesn't stop writers from adding new powers. Hell, it probably encourages them, as they get ideas for new abilities and give them to characters already considered strong to avoid complaints from fans. As the blitzburn noted, this isn't saying Voldemort would win, they're merely noting an out of fiction trend they've spotted and using the Voldemort vs Vader fight as an example. Not to mention, since this is an inter universe fight, there's a lot of unknowns. Could the Force tip off Vader to Voldemort's soul jars? We don't know, but fans hate when a supposed source of knowledge admits their limits, which tends to lead to guesses being portrayed as fact. That and in settings with multiple authors, or hell, just a long enough time stuff is being written in it, there are going to be inconsistencies. When faced with these there is a question; do we default to the strongest powers, even if they were used once and never again, or the most common, or a combo of the two. Does it sound complicated? Yes, welcome to large scale fiction writing. At least if you want to figure out a character's powers across hundreds of books, video games and seven movies. OT+PT+ Rogue One. Nevermind there might be an author with an agenda on board to pump up or nerf their favorite/ disliked characters.

@renato360a

13 күн бұрын

@@mattmorehouse9685 I think you're just repeating what blitzburn already said. My second point, in summary, is that Vader is a character with potential to be expanded upon, while Volde isn't. No matter how many writers you throw at Voldemort, he won't get any stronger. This potential alone I claim is reason enough to justify the superiority of Vader even in the face of publishing logistics. A simpler example of this is One Punch Man. How he was defined early determines his invincibility forever. Each stronger foe he faces reveals a new reason why he can't be beaten, as if they're adding to his powers. But this all adding stems from how he was first defined.

@mattmorehouse9685

13 күн бұрын

@@renato360a So because you say that Rowling said Voldemort was the most powerful wizard he cannot have said powers expanded. As opposed to Vader, who was said to be a prophecized hero who was going to end the Sith. As opposed to all the EU characters with crazy powers, like Starkiller, who dragged down an entire star destroyer or "5d chess genius!1!" Revan, who just so happened to stumble on an ancient factory with limitless power from the dark side, but totally wasn't corrupted by it. Or other "5d chess genius!1!" Thrawn who defeats his enemies with sherlokian wit cause Zhan has a hard on for milit- I mean he's totally a tactical genius. Nevermind that Outbound Flight pretty much shows him to be competent when faced by the tactically moronic Trade Federation, who somehow become completely trust worthy to reprogram a completely new technology to the Chiss... cause reasons. Suddenly Vader doesn't look that powerful, thanks to EU power creep. Seems like a good example of what blitz was talking about: the more writers you rent your universe out to, the more likely there will be major power creep, as said writers try to one up each other. Sure, I suppose Vader is stronger than Voldemort in a straight up fight, but blitz wasn't denying that, merely pointing out an interesting reason why that was probably true. Or are we not allowed to examine fiction as fiction when it seemingly deflates one of your favorite characters?

I know the star wars fan base has a lot of debates and arguments but literally everyone would agree that Anakin was not the strongest Jedi. He has the highest midichlorian level (Luke and Leia might have more) which means he had the highest potential. Also he wasn't at the peak of his power at that time, it's just that's where his power was cut short. If Anakin were have to been in a fight against an older version of himself he would likely have lost

@lesigh1749

11 күн бұрын

I was thinking that too. Obiwan beat him like a red haired stepchild, and HE was not the most gifted jedi Master on the council in either force power or lightsaber forms.

@Verdigo76

10 күн бұрын

Yeah Anakin was a noob at channeling the dark side while fighting Obiwan. That made him weaker than his fully focused light side.

@KNullHypothesis

3 күн бұрын

​@lesigh1749 Yeah, both Mace and Yoda would've whooped him. Obi wan was probably the third strongest on the Council in all fairness. Though, Obi wan vs Mace is debatable, imo since Obi doesn't use dark side and so Mace wouldn't actually be that powered up. Attack of the clones Obi is also way weaker than ROTS Obi, before anyone says how Mace dealt with Jango vs Obi wan. Mace would still whoop Anakin because of his Vapaad though.

@charlieluth6185

8 сағат бұрын

@@lesigh1749lol Anakin was by far the most gifted Jedi ever he is literally the chosen one he lost to Kenobi because of his Arrogance nothing else

another fine video by danco!

Darth vader ruled an galaxy while voldemort couldnt even rule an basement

You will never defeat me Anak.... *Voldemort begins to be suffocated*

Here’s how it would go, Voldemort “avatoca-“ agh* agh* cough* Vader “ magic hugh, I don’t think it’s much of a , choking matter.”

Considering that lightning attacks and even the unforgivable killing curse green bolt can be blocked by objects or dodged make them ineffective against a fully powered Darth Vader with telekineses and his lightsaber being guided to superhuman lvls by the force.

Rank Best Fighters from Marvel and DC next!!!

Very well done 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Another thing to consider is that because of the way the force works anyone who decides to take a disappearing act won’t work unless you’re teleporting or outright removing yourself from existence for a short while. Also there is a portion of the Jedi training that focuses solely on calming and focusing the mind under high duress and combat, and the most adept at this are even capable of seeing a few seconds into the future in the middle of combat (though it when it comes up it’s usually talked about like it’s a rare ability and not something you can learn)

Force choke solos Voldemort. If that doesn’t work then cutting up Voldemort’s wand certainly will.

If Vader can pull fu**ing star destroyer, I like to think that he can just squish Veldemort with the force

@MISSING_KING

11 күн бұрын

I wonder why he didn’t do that with the mon calamari ships…

Well put, I agree with your assessment fully.

I believe that the suit did make darth vader stronger because it completely submerged him in his hatred and was a constant reminder of his failure ensuring that it was almost impossible for him to fall back to light but during his duel on mustafar he was split between the light and dark in a unnatural way wich made him lose power I believe that mustafar vader would have had more power than suit Vader if he had embraced the dark side fully this is kind of also cannon. In addition to this max potential no suit Anikan would have been the most if not one of the most powerful characters in Star Wars and I do believe the suit limited his long term power greatly.

@Sharkyboi19

22 сағат бұрын

also this is completely cannon idk why I did it this way 😭

If anyone thinks Voldemort will win is crazy. Whatever Voldemort decides to dish out Darth Vader is already able to counter before he thinks of doing something. This fight isn’t close, it’s like putting a spider vs a lion.

vold: starting a sentence for a spell vader: forcechokes

@coreywigent7693

15 күн бұрын

Voldemort doesn't need to cast spells verbally

@SkeletonSlacker

15 күн бұрын

@@coreywigent7693 i think forcechoke would still be somewhat effective

@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega

15 күн бұрын

@@SkeletonSlacker he doesnt have to be near, he can just forcechoke voldi on facetime

@SkeletonSlacker

15 күн бұрын

@@ElysiaWhitemoonOmega LMAO TRUE

@coreywigent7693

15 күн бұрын

@@SkeletonSlacker and Voldemort could invade his mind

It all boils down to if Vader can disarm Voldemort before he can cast any spells. If not then Voldemort wins just because of the vast amount of potential spells he can use, even basic spells you first learn could be enough.

Honestly my first thought is that Vader would just use the force with nary a twitch of his wrist or utterence from his throught and jerk the little twig out of Baldy's hand before he could even speak a syllable of a counter charm and there ya go, fight is over.

A lot more to consider than usually examined. Impressive. Most Impressive..indeed.

Voldemourt: Avada- *Darth Vader force chokes him* Darth Vader: Be careful not to choke on your aspirations *force pulls Voldemort, then stabs him with his lightsaber*

Homelander vs Skullcrawlers

There's also one thing that would work against Voldemort in this match up. He's afraid of death, in Rebels, Kanan and Ezra feel a cold whenever Vader is around, and cold is typically associated with things like death. To Voldi, Vader is practically death itself as a living man.

@gardoc1669

12 күн бұрын

But Voldemort had an army of dementors which could freeze the water with their presence

@Scar-Predator

12 күн бұрын

@@gardoc1669 Vader gives off a feeling of cold, just when he's in the room. Freezing water looks cool, but automatically sending literal shivers down someone's spine the second you step into the same room is a lot more frightening.

@gardoc1669

12 күн бұрын

@@Scar-Predator Dementors also spread the aura of sadness, fear and despair around them. They literally feed on good feelings

@Scar-Predator

12 күн бұрын

@@gardoc1669 and Vader is a walking suit of armor. Which is creepier: hooded figure, or self moving armor?

@gardoc1669

12 күн бұрын

​@@Scar-Predator They both are scary. But in different ways. Vader is like a terminator who walks menacingly and slowly but never stops before completing his mission and dementors are more like the wild, supernatural, dark, demonical creatures that will drain every last drop of your soul giving you a fate worse than death

1st rule of fighting a wizard, never let them speak. Force choke ends this rather quickly.

@DanCo can you do a Darkseid vs Dr Manhattan, plz…..

No spell, is getting through Vader's force shield (it's cannon, which is why one force user can't force choke another in the middle of a fight, both parties have their force shield at full strength while fighting) No way Voldemort's lightning is even a FIFTH as strong as Palpatine's force lightning and would easily be deflected/absorbed by Vader's saber Darth Vader's hatred isn't entirely his own, it's him channelling the dark side of the force and using his emotions to fuel him in a very different way than a non force sensitive. Every negative emotion Vader has allows him a greater connection to and in turn a greater way to channel the Dark side of the force. Voldemort's evil is his own, that of a human being. As far as I know, magic isn't an all binding force that flows through us all, but even if it were, or even you could equate all of Voldemort's magic affinity, to Vader's force affinity, it's NO CONTEST. Vader doesn't smile, Vader doesn't laugh, when he cracks jokes, it's to make him FEAR you, not to make either one of you laugh, He doesn't experience ANY positive emotion, EVER. The ONLY TIME We have EVER seen Darth Vader even RESEMBLE any sort of happiness was with his fight with Obi wan during the Kenobi TV show, and the ONLY reason is he smiling, is because he is about to commit murder and revenge. It was a fleeting moment of not joy, but accomplishment, as he was standing in front of his old Jedi master with the dark side RAGING throughout every body part he had left. Voldemort has been known to smile, laugh has emotions aside from anger and hate, and is just an all around inferior combatant to any dark side user, let alone Darth Vader. That Vader doesn't count anyway, as he's not the Vader that George Lucas Envisioned, even though they are both the same in terms of power if you aren't accounting for EU Vader, who is even stronger than either of the other two vaders. Vader could force choke Voldemort before he even walked into the arena lmao

@Richtofen-gy9cj

14 күн бұрын

Vader's suit was built to be vulnerable to force lightning

@christianmino3753

14 күн бұрын

@@Richtofen-gy9cj Vaders SUIT, not his body. Jedi, Sth AND vader himself (if you are including the EU) have been known to deflect force lighting with their saber. His suit was built to be sensitive to PALPATINE'S force lightning, which had surpassed lightning and become sith storm, in every continuity. Even Dooku level force lightning would be nothing for vader, as long as he had his saber, and even so he can use the force to deflect it before it gets to him. I literally addressed this. Don't reply to a comment when you haven't read it, no matter how long it may be.

Lord Voldemort (Harry Potter) VS Hades (Clash of the Titans) The two most powerful villains played by Ralph Fiennes!

I have to go with Vader here as the winner but transmutation is the big X factor for me. If Voldemort can land that it's over. However that is a big If. Not brought up was the fact force users do have some precognitive abilities. If Voldemort plans to start whipping out Transmutations it may lead to Vader just ending things as he will sense significant danger coming. Hell even if it lands if Vader is still sentient he may still have the force so he might win as a spider as Voldemort is about to step on him and gets his head cut off by a floating light saber. In the end I think though this is a very talented and very skilled Bully versus a legitimate Bad Ass. Vader is made of stronger stuff and I see Voldemort breaking first.

@NTJedi

5 күн бұрын

Vader can sense the presence of anyone with power, which means Vader would have first attack resulting with a choke hold followed by disarming of Voldermorts wand. The only way Voldermort would have a chance would be if someone of greater power or emotional interest was distracting Vader.

I think this fight is a lot more even than a lot of people are making it, but the vast majority comes down to how the force and magic interact. A few preliminary assumptions about magic that I think most people are missing: - A wand is a focus item, not the source of magical power. (HP made glass disappear without a wand. Longbottom bounced when dropped by his uncle.) Some magic can be done without that focus, so breaking the wand does not make Voldemort defenseless, but significantly less of a threat. - Magic is as all encompassing as The Force. It can influence things in much the same way. Both magic and The Force tend to require time to research/meditate to understand how to wield their powers. - Magic allows mathematical and scientific impossibilities: Buildings where there is not space to put them, technological exclusion zones. - Star Wars Tech is essentially muggle tech. Imperials are essentially muggles. - Wizards can make areas where muggle tech doesn't work. (Depending on how this works, Vader's lightsaber and suit likely become nothing but dead weight.) Some questions which need answered to figure out how the fight would go: - What can Voldemort do without his wand? He clearly isn't helpless since the wand is merely a focus item . . . but he's not nearly as powerful, either. - Does magic allow a user to disapparate at will and escape force activities (push, pull, choke)? If so, this becomes a reasonably even fight. - Does magic counter Imperial technology? If the fight occurs in an area where "Muggle technology" such as Vader's suit don't function, Vader's in trouble. If this extends to Vader's saber not working, he's in a *LOT* of trouble. - Can a lightsaber block magic? Most people seem to assume that it can because it can block practically anything in the Star Wars universe . . . but I don't know if that's a safe assumption. If it can, then Voldemort is in a world of hurt. If not, Vader *MUST* break the wand immediately. I think this fight boils down to "Who can eliminate the others' advantages first?" Here's how I see this fight going down: Volde is playing defense because he values his own life above all else, while Vader is well known for going on the offensive. Vader finds the secret keeper for Voldemort's lair, and forces the location of the lair from him. Vader then proceeds to the lair, only for his saber and suit to immediately malfunction upon entering. Voldemort's home is protected by a muggle tech exclusion zone. Volde, now alert to the attack goes to investigate. Vader, prone and unable to breathe in his malfunctioning suit, force pulls himself outside to relative safety. Once outside, the suit and lightsaber immediately resume normal functioning. Voldemort apparates behind Vader while Vader is not yet fully recovered. Wanting the invader to suffer he shouts "Crucio!" The beam of light hits Vader in the back. Vader is in a world of debilitating pain and suffering. Unfortunately for Voldemort, this has the opposite effect Voldemort intends. Vader is both used to pain, and uses it to power his rage. Vader fights through the pain and tries to block it with his saber, but unlike anything he's used to, the saber fails to block the magical stream. Voldemort laughs at his pathetic victim. "You are pathetic! Your power is useless against me!" Wanting to end the pain, Vader uses The Force to snap the wand. Fortunately for Voldemort, he's begun keeping a spare wand in his pocket. Before Tom can pull it out, Vader begins to Force Choke him. Voldemort puts his hand in his pocket, grabs the spare, and immediately disapparates back into his lair. Vader, knowing he is at a severe disadvantage inside the lair, chooses not to follow. Instead, he summons a transport from his ship. He orders the ship to bombard the lair from orbit, only for the gunner to inform him that there is no such location. Fortunately for Vader, he has kept his informant (Voldemort's secret keeper) alive for further questioning. Upon being mocked by the secret keeper, Vader flies into a rage, and kills him. "Lord Vader! We don't know what happened, but the location wasn't there a moment ago, but we can see it now!" "Excellent. Fire." Voldemort's Lair is engulfed in death from above, yet he does not die. He has made himself immune to heat and used his magic to create a wall of force around himself, but many of his enchantments were destroyed in the blast. Tom flees to one of his secondary bases. Sensing this, Vader returns to the planet. Finding the new secret keeper, he saves time by killing her immediately. Riddle, not knowing the secret keeper has died, stays in his lair. Vader blasts it from space. Again, Riddle survives, but not realizing there was an imminent threat, he was less prepared, and severely weakened. Vader, finds his quarry, and begins by using the force to snap his wands and force Riddle's hands away from his pockets. "You were more powerful than I expected. Still, it is time for you to die." Riddle unable to focus and deprived of magical defenses, is cut in half by a lightsaber.

There's more utility in spells but in the end it comes down to a quick draw, and the force is faster to use. It doesn't require an incantation or a particular movement or gesture.

Hey Dan could you do Rahzar from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2012 series vs death from Puss in Boots The last wish two wolf monsters going against each other I want to see which of these wolf monsters deserve to be the world's most deadliest and dangerous wolf ever

Even if we disregard everything else, Vader has two abilities that Voldemort has absolutely no hard counter against: Force-aided precognition and speed. You don't need anything else. Force users regularly deflect blaster bolts with their lightsabers, and Voldemort's signature attack is a green beam so slow a juvenile can dodge it, in his bleeding and weakened state, by darting behind a gravestone. Vader would literally *yawn* at any number of Avada Kadaervas shot at him. It's also blockable by inanimate objects, which Vader tends to throw around a lot with the Force.

I think to be honest, this is a fight that is just impossible to say which one would win, because you are talking about two fictional beings that use powers completely asymmetric to each other, it's almost like superman v Voldemort, so whilst its fun to imagine it's not even a thing

@NTJedi

5 күн бұрын

Vader can sense the presence of anyone with power which means Vader would have the surprise advantage and first attack. Vader could blow up the planet where Voldermort resides. Vader could choke Voldermort using the force from a long range camera view. Voldemort would quickly be crippled and imprisoned by Vader and that's if Vader was feeling generous.

I can't believe that there are people who actually believe Voldemort would be any kind of a challenge for Vader. It would be over before it even started. Vader grabs his wand with the force, snaps it, done. Not even someone like Thanos would stand any chance against Vader. Vader crushes the stones in his gloves with the force, chokes him out and cuts him into small pieces with his lightsaber.

The interesting thing I notice about Darth Sidious is that we never see him teach his apprentices much of anything. That and he almost always kept his apprentices off on faraway missions.

Voldemort senses with magic a worthy adversary approaching. He readies himself with a bunch of dastardly spells… Death Star emerges from hyperspace, does a victory orbit around planet earth just for fun, then destroys Voldemort along with the entire planet he’s standing on. The End. Oh. Alternatively, he could just show up with his star destroyer and orbitally bombard Great Britain until it was just a boiling section of the North Sea. Also The End. You don’t know the power of the dark side. And of peace through superior firepower!

@GreenDeemonll

12 күн бұрын

Well that wouldn't be a 1v1 anymore, but besides that you assume that all of Voldemorts Horcruxes that make him literally invincible get destroyed by the Deathstar together with him, wich could happen but to my knowledge they can only be damaged by certain magic and a huge explosion isn't magical at all, so Voldemort would probably survive that, but he would be frozen in Space probably, so hard to say what happens next or if Vader even realises that he might have survived that. Maybe Voldemort recovers and finds a way to move in space with his magic and becomes an actual space wizard, but all this already obliterated the bounds of a 1v1 duel anyways.

Imagine challenging someone to a duel and they force choke you from across the galaxy

Force crush would end the encounter immediately. Remember Luke at the end of Mando s2? Perfect mirror to his father but ruled by the balance.

Honestly, it makes sense. Lord Voldemort was a dark lord known all across Britain.Darth Vader was known as the Grim Goddamned Reaper across the entire GALAXY.

When it comes to mobility Voldemort would have an advantage since he has been seen turning to smoke to quickly move around and could use spells at a range against Vader. If spells can be deflected by lightsabers or with the force then Voldemort is out of options here. Both like to toy with their opponents, but I feel Vader would feel the need to end things quicker and move on to a real threat. Voldy wouldn't even be a ping on the Empires radar and even then Emperor Palpatine would probably tell Vader to get on with hunting down Jedi and leave the discount dathomir nightsister to his own plans since he and his deatheaters wouldn't be a threat to the Empire.

@MyAramil

14 күн бұрын

I counter that he would feel voldermort doing the aparate thing, then when voldemort went to cast a spell, he nudged the wand ever so slightly, enough to miss with it. Since it has been demonstrated that normal humans can dodge the killing curse given enough forwarning, the force would tell vader when to dodge as well. Vader would find the fight entertaining as its somethign he never fought before, but then quickly grow bored.

The emperor himself admitted Vader can still surpass him, he just refuses to allow him further than 80% of his knowledge

I view it like it is in the Harry Dresden novels. Given enough time and preparation a wizard can defeat anything. But if you were just going to randomly pit them against each other with no prep time... Darth Vader would win easily.

Honestly the more they amp up vader, the more impressive luke is.

The answer is a force power used by both the Jedi and the Sith known as teutemimus (no idea if I spelled that right). With this power, which Darth Vader has demonstrated mastery of, Vader can nullify and snuff out any energy based attacks such as blaster bolts, force lightning, lightsaber blades, and magic spell from a wand. Spells from a wand are literally all Voldemort has. So, while Vader uses one hand to absorb or snuff out any spell Voldemort casts, including the Killing Curse, he (Vader) is free to use his other hand for either a saber throw, a force choke, or to radio his master about the dumbass with the stick

I don't know if it has been said already, but it was said that Vader wasn't fighting as we have come to know him in his prime against Old Ben. When that fight occurs, it is said that he was shaken to his core because of his previous fight with Obi-Wan. I would also like to add that Darth Vader did not land a killing or even a minor blow to the aged Jedi Master. When he struck Ben's robes, Ben had transcended into the force unscathed. If he had killed Obi-Wan, Vader would have cut him in two! Also, when he choked the man from across the star ship, Darth Vader was inside his meditation chamber. However, it is also said that the chamber he would meditate in was a Sith artifact that enhances the powers of the force weilder exponentially and significantly enhancing their abilities! It is, as far as we know so far, the only Sith artifact that is no simple wearable trinket like some other objects of great evil in their galaxy. Vader meditated in there frequently to more immerse himself in dark force energy. As powerful as Darth Vader is, he even saw use from that single Sith artifact. This was a good video, and I did not mean to seem like I was picking. Thank you for the good content.

Vaders suit was intentionally made obsolete against Palpatine's force lightning

(Note: This comment was thought up before watching the video. I'm now at the 6:01 mark, so not even into Voldemort's portion yet.) Voldemort raises wand. Vader: "Allow me to put this in terms you'll understand." Vader raises a hand. Vader (sarcastically): *"ACCIO WAND!!!"* The wand flies to Vader's hand. He stares at it with curious contempt. "You thought to threaten *me* with... _a stick_?" Vader tosses wand into the air. He clenches his fist as the wand shatters above him, showering him with wood dust and feathers. He then looks at Voldemort, nodding to the side a bit as Voldemort grabs his throat. A loud snapping sound is heard as Voldemort's neck snaps.

I have Vader pulling Voldemorty's wand out of his hand. And telekinetically shoving it into his brain in the first 2 seconds of the fight.

Voldemort would turn Vader to his side Voldemort has that way with people and Vader would follow him due to the fact that he still wants to save his wife Voldemort would do like the emperor did make false promises

Being a long time fan of both these series, I'm glad you came to the proper conclusion

The winner is whoever takes the more aggressive move first. Who realizes the threat across from them first and decides not to toy with their food? Voldy has an unblockable instakill up his sleeve, but he still has to be able to cast it, which Vader can easily prevent with a force choke.

@Bowger06

10 сағат бұрын

However, the Force would give Ani foresight to his opponents’ thoughts, so Tom would have no chance to act.

@charlieluth6185

8 сағат бұрын

Avada kedavra can easily be blocked or absorbed by a light saber or dodged and pushed away with the force how is that unblockable?

Vader is a cooler character, but the magic in the Harry Potter universe is powerful enough to be considered broken. There's a spell for anything you can think of (and they don't have to be spoken aloud), shields that can manifest out of nothing, levitation and force choking would be basic enough that a skilled student could do them, aparating to anywhere, flight, liquid luck, etc., etc. Vader is cooler for the same reason that Batman is cooler than Superman. Too many powers with virtually no weakness is boring. However, that doesn't mean that cool points make Batman more powerful. Yes, Harry was a high school kid, but he also happened to be the kryptonite mcguffin to push the story to its conclusion. Otherwise, Voldemort was essentially unkillable. That's an issue of the audience that the books were written for and not necessarily a reflection on his power. It's strongly suggested that if Voldemort can destroy the one person on Earth that could possibly defeat him, then he'd be free to easily subdue all of humanity. Much of Vader's power is in being manipulative and playing the long political game in a universe with far more advanced technology than ours. His individual capabilities with force "magic" are far more reserved, and that is precisely why they are more compelling.

@gardoc1669

11 күн бұрын

Exactly! Finally, at least one person understands

My thought on HP wizards vs. X. HP wizards were chased into seclusion by angry villagers armed with torches and pitchforks. How does X compare to angry villagers? Here we might have a particularly powerful wizard, but he's going against someone who can tear up a battlefield.

@laurenceperkins7468

14 күн бұрын

Vader would *also* have trouble with a large mob of angry villagers though. Even he is not inexhaustible. He couldn't fight an entire planetary population by himself. If he could there would have never been a need to build the Deathstar, or its successors. Voldemort would probably lose though. Because he's essentially a schoolyard bully and is terrible at tactics. The battle magic and dueling as displayed in the books is, frankly, terribly silly. I'd expect to see a lot more teleportation, smokescreens, non-physical attacks, combination with weapons, etc. Someone with access to Potterverse magic, who took the art of combat seriously, would definitely be on a par with Vader. He'd probably even be envious of some of their abilities. Even he can't just erase someone's memories or travel through time.

@Unknown-hb3id

8 күн бұрын

​@@laurenceperkins7468 It'd just be a longer Rogue One hallway scene for Vader to take out an large mob of angry villagers. He's taken out whole armies on his own in both canon and EU. "All I am surrounded by is fear and dead men." -- Darth Vader

Two words Force dominate which is a more potent and powerful banned form of thw mind trick which lets someone fully control another

This fight could go 2 ways: Voldemort: ADVADAKADABRA *disarms with force Vader: I don't think so Voldemort: ADVADAKADABRA *DEFLECTS WITH LIGHTSABER Voldemort ded

Voldemort: Avadaca-... Ack! Hack! *Choking sounds* Vader: *making clenching gesture with his fingers* BE CAREFUL NOT TO CHOKE ON YOUR ASPIRATIONS VOLDEMORT. Not to mention Vader could just forgo the choking and snap his neck like he did to that civilian in the Kenobi series. Or what about Voldemort's wand? A little telekinesis... Snap! Oops....well that'll cut your spell effectiveness down. I would also point out that you mentioned Voldemort having a greater effective range.... But you said earlier in this video that Vader could Force Choke someone from across the Galaxy. Now I kinda think that is an exaggeration but if it IS true... Name one person Voldemort killed from a Galaxy away.

I think that just saying that Anakin was able to make the force gods knee at his wish is enough. And also Vader was able to walk trough Starkiller force repulse that was disintegrating everything in his way, so he can tank so much

Vader chokes him no diddy

@aquathix

3 күн бұрын

Full diddy.