Just to clarify, I'm not switching to a controller permanently or anything, but I did want to defend this rather fun and wacky way of playing the game. This video took a few months to make, I hope you all liked it. Edit: I have uploaded a starter config for the Dualsense controller, in case you feel like trying it. I'll put more detailed instructions in the description. Put this link in your browser steam://controllerconfig/440/2801222110

@Engie17

2 жыл бұрын

Tide video when? 😡

@croooshader6270

2 жыл бұрын

demoknight tf2

@DemopanTF2

2 жыл бұрын

Troll the haters with flick stick

@britishrailclass4767

2 жыл бұрын

Carmen Winstead

@bindstf2

2 жыл бұрын

I'm enjoying the recent resurgence in interest for controllers in tf2, but something surprisingly absent in all of this is a mention of koymu. He's a spy main who uses stick controls to play spy, and he definitely hasn't gotten the attention he deserves.

I love how this video was "tf2 on steamdeck is bad lmao" and solar taking it personally and spending like 2 years getting good with gyro aiming in tf2 to make a 21 minute 46 second video to flip off reddit. solar never change

@mrmrmeta3698

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@megumin9020

Жыл бұрын

Solar light moment

@helium-379

Жыл бұрын

Gyro controls are legit 100 times better than a regular mouse. It takes some time getting used to but the fidelity of control is absolutely unmatched.

@kurushimee

Жыл бұрын

@@helium-379 No. I use gyro aiming ever since I got my Steam Controller in 2017, I absolutely love gyro and a couple months ago I completely switched from mouse to gyro, training my gyro aim, despite me playing so much better with a mouse that it'll take some time to get back to my level on gyro. And still, I will confidently say, gyro is NOT better than mouse... but it's up there! Literally, I think we can confidently say that gyro is just as good as a mouse, not worse! Now, there are indeed things that gyro has an advantage over mice, but it still doesn't make it actually better: flick stick's ability to flick in any direction instantly is pretty much infinitely better than what mouse can do - flick stick has infinite velocity, it's instant, while mouse is unfortunately restricted by laws of physics not letting you teleport it; some people swear by movement on controller, saying that it's much better on mnk; extensive gamepad configuration sometimes can achieve something you could never on mnk; and most importantly - gyro is easier to get better at, the same exact person with no previous mouse or gyro experience will play better with gyro in the same time, it feels more natural and is easier to master (on higher levels of aiming - no difference, both equally really hard to get better at, so much so that the difference evens out).

@j1883311

Жыл бұрын

@@kurushimee gyro and MnK are the closest thing to each other to finally bridge the gap and MAYBE convince ppl aim assist is bullshit

To be honest, I’m all for this new age of ControllerKnight TF2

@kannon7075

2 жыл бұрын

nice pfp

@thecorruptedbit5585

2 жыл бұрын

funny enough, controllers were used by demoknights before gyro was a thing - since the turning restrictions of the demo charge didn't apply to analog sticks, you had demoknighs using controllers to trimp back in 2012.

@Rafelandroid2

2 жыл бұрын

@@thecorruptedbit5585 Interesting

@C.A._Old

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah But How About S : PS3 And XBOX360 Team Fortress 2 ? They Still Alives Presents Todays ! +1

@emperorpalpatine666

2 жыл бұрын

Love that album nice pfp

Play with a wii controller

@BoltTheSuperDog45

2 ай бұрын

I mean imagine if orange box was on the Wii that will be something

@Pac-man_talking_a_shit

Ай бұрын

Bet

@welikedominos6583

Ай бұрын

I play on a calculator

@BoltTheSuperDog45

Ай бұрын

@@welikedominos6583 that would be cool tho ngl

@milkohfortnite

Ай бұрын

Demoknight wii f2

On that last controller. That aim method is called “free aiming” and a set of older console games used it. It’s not bad but most of them used hybrid aim systems with really heavy aim assist/auto aim.

@Appletank8

2 ай бұрын

i vaguely remember Metroid Prime doing this.

@IsM1ku

29 күн бұрын

yeah i remember Far Cry on the Wii using it

Gyro aiming is one of the greatest things to ever happen to controllers

@zedaf872

Жыл бұрын

ehhhhhhhh I mean it’s more flexible but it’s harder than controller but for a bit more reward and it’s harder than pc for less reward.

@hudsonator7259

Жыл бұрын

Why is gyro controls so underated? They make small and big adjustments all the like so much easier

@Hubbleshubbles

Жыл бұрын

@@hudsonator7259 Outrageously hard to master, far more than mouse or sticks on top of being actively unfun to learn. Plenty of devs that want to make it the standard control scheme, but it's not happening any time soon, if ever.

@devilmaycrysarockingdontcome

Жыл бұрын

@@Hubbleshubbles Is it really that hard? I find I got better results with gyro than with sticks after not that much practicing in a bunch of fps

@survivorofthecurse717

Жыл бұрын

That's the last time I hear my brother talk about how Xbox controllers are better than Switch Pro Cons...

The thing is, there's such a stigma against gyro aim and other """ guimicky""" controller input methods that most people probably haven't given them a chance even if they had the opportunity. Plus there's tons of people who have never used a controller capable of it. So the vast majority of people think of stick aiming when they think of playing on a controller.

@DarthSears

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who only saw the beginning of gyro with the PS3 Controller. Yeah. I legit only saw it was a gimmick that was stupid, poorly implemented, and would never really be worth putting time into remembering the existence of.

@jared8515

2 жыл бұрын

man you didn't just say guimicky

@cerocero2817

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarthSears was there any ps3 game that allowed you to aim with the six axis? Of the top of my head the only two uses that I can remember were aiming grenades in Uncharted and moving the hurricane weapon in Ratchet and Clank. Definitely gimmicky in this case, but that hardly compares to the capacities of the controllers shown here.

@berni1011

2 жыл бұрын

Splatoon 1 and 2 convinced me gyro aiming can work. It takes some used to, but I mean is it really any less or more naturl than pressing keys and flinging a mouse around?

@zepic3895

2 жыл бұрын

@@berni1011 it's definitely more natural than using a stick, given that developers literally have to cheat on your behalf (aim assist) for it to be bearable

Hey there! Splatoon player here. Gyro aiming is infact probably one of the best methods for playing shooters with controllers. Most comp players for Splatoon play Gyro on various levels of sensitivity, and I can confirm that it just makes shooting with maximum efficiency, especially in a third person environments, much easier for the player. Top tier splatoon players can perform crazy stunts such as doing an insane 180 flick to a falling target behind them while playing the charger/sniper weapon with the power of gyro. Thank you for shedding light on this [ honestly ] more optimal way to play shooters with controllers for people who are familiar with mouse!

@HappyBeezerStudios

8 ай бұрын

It gives the option to have very slow and precise movement and fast and wide movement at the same time, just like a mouse does.

I’ve played controller my whole life and this is the first time I’ve ever heard of and seen Gyro in action, I’m absolutely blown away by this. Thank you for this video

Gyro sure has some insane potential. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see a mouse with a joystick where the thumb is to allow for the 360* turns to happen.

@SolarLight

2 жыл бұрын

There is one that actually exists. The Asus ROG Chakram indeed has a stick, and Steam actually released an update that adds config support for it, so you could probably use Flick Stick on it. However, it's quite expensive.

@rompevuevitos222

2 жыл бұрын

I''ve seen controller and keyboard (mostly for flight sims), but certainly never joystick and mouse Sounds like a logical setup tho, since the main downside of mouse is the lack of precision movement

@Tigerof2000

2 жыл бұрын

so like a gaming trackball?

@Matt_364

2 жыл бұрын

@@SolarLight The “A Sus”

@amateurishauthor2202

Жыл бұрын

@@rompevuevitos222 Because Mouse+keyboard users are renowned for their use of Aim Assist and general inability to aim- no, that's the joystick's issue. Joysticks act much faster than a mouse, but a mouse is far more precise than a joystick. Most if not all shooters for consoles have aim assist to some degree, whereas most if not all PC shooters don't. Precision in a shooter is a must have and it makes sense that systems would be put in place to fix a hardware issue. For the Controller you need aim assist as you cannot move just a pixel over, whereas for the mouse you need to turn up the sensitivity in order to spin faster.

The solar eclipse is over, he's back

@DA28007

2 жыл бұрын

The light come with his sword, shield, and his infamous scream

@johndudemech9471

2 жыл бұрын

Yay

@thr0ne1997

2 жыл бұрын

@@DA28007 there can be ONLY one.

@cosmicvoidtree

2 жыл бұрын

An 8 month eclipse. That’s about how long I haven’t seen the sun in.

@BoltTheSuperDog45

Ай бұрын

Funny enough the solar eclipse was this year

Okay so I'm coming back to this video after nearly a year due to a conversation about controller vs. kbm in shooters, and that bit at 13:07 about your game knowledge applying but having to rebuild muscle memory from scratch reminds me of an experience I had with another game. Back in 2019, I switched from playing Super Smash Bros. Ultimate on a Switch Pro Controller to playing on an all-button arcade-style controller, and that also had a similar initial learning curve where I had no muscle memory but all of my game knowledge. It was a really weird and kinda surreal experience. I'd almost compare it to what it was like getting used to walking again after I had back surgery when I was 15 (long story). Honestly now I kinda wanna learn to play TF2 on controller just because that experience of playing a game I'm already familiar with but have zero muscle memory is genuinely fascinating, and it's something I'd like to experience again.

The second I saw that James Bond clip, that confirmed my suspicions that this video was inspired by Nerrel's on motion control. Great video!

Solarlight... thank you for making this video. Some time ago, I lost a lot of muscle in my arm and my hand. I found out I had something on my brain that was pushing down on the part of the brain that controls the functions to my arm and hand. It's been two years since that day, and I'm still unable to play any game with both hands. I'm only capable of using my left hand to control everything and to have my right hand weakly grasp the controller for some support. After watching this video, I was actually in disbelief. I was really amazed. It brought me pure joy that maybe, just maybe... I can play video games like normal again. Maybe I could play games with my friends like I used to. From the bottom of my heart, I thank you for making this video🥲

@emrebaskocak

2 жыл бұрын

Hey dude, look up Asus ROG Chakram. It's a mouse with a built in stick like on a controller. I don't know how it'd work exactly but you could walk with the stick and aim with the mouse, from just one hand. Depending on how capable your other hand is, you could use it for basic stuff like jumping, switching weapons, calling for medic,... Anyway, I'm sure that with how the technology is going, you can figure something out. Hell you can even get foot pedals for certain binds. Good luck dude.

@JpGriZz

2 жыл бұрын

@@emrebaskocak thanks man, I'll certainly look into it, and the idea of foot petals do sound like a good idea, though I might have to pad my room just to make sure I'm not making a crazy amount of sound🤣😂

@alpha268

2 жыл бұрын

bruh how do you jerk it

@user-cm9kx9nf8p

2 жыл бұрын

Dang, that sounds Bad, hope You are doing well and found the way to play with your Friends again

@sebastiann.8088

Жыл бұрын

@@user-cm9kx9nf8p ÑñÑñÑ que haces aqui

for those who don't have a controller, but wants to walk: use +strafe command. by default its a bind on left ALT. to walk, you need to hold your +strafe bind and move your mouse

@Soul-wj2nj

2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU

@nyancatec

2 жыл бұрын

But then how does Gmod do it? You can walk slowly and aim. It's either other command made especially for Gmod, or just Strafe but remade for Gmod Purposes.

@shotgunfarmersfan22

2 жыл бұрын

How do I add a controller

@nyancatec

2 жыл бұрын

@@shotgunfarmersfan22 If you don't have new technology (XBox 360 controller) then you sadly have to get a remote controller (shown in a video), unless you have wired version of controller. PS3 or other, I don't really know, but probably Bluetooth or USB cable is enough.

@shotgunfarmersfan22

2 жыл бұрын

@@nyancatec I have a wired ps4 tho

I played warframe on switch and noted how the motion controls allow for far more precise aiming than should be possible with a controller, and I'm glad to see someone else realized that controllers with motion controls are AMAZING for shooters. Excellent video

I think it's kind of hilarious how the controller explicitly meant for the console on which TF2 was originally played ends up sucking the hardest at being used for the game.

Gyro aim has always been so good and so underrated. Every time a game slaps the feature on, it improves things drastically

@zepic3895

2 жыл бұрын

Shame sometimes developers just make the gyro input a glorified stick (with shit like acceleration and dead zones), killing the entire purpose of gyro. For it to perform better, you always need to set it to raw mouse input

@lordderpingtonII

2 жыл бұрын

Splatoon has really opened peoples eyes to gyro aiming

@C.A._Old

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah But How About S : PS3 And XBOX360 Team Fortress 2 ? They Still Alives Presents Todays ! +1

@recurvestickerdragon

2 жыл бұрын

I wish splatoon's was more tunable

@HonkyKongBF37

2 жыл бұрын

It's an odd place to have learned about gyro aim, but I tried PUBG Mobile when it was still new and it had a gyro aim feature that introduced me to it and it felt so smooth (even though it was just a mobile game lol)

As a comp splatoon player I can confirm motion controls and gyro are completely viable and actually pretty easy to use

@Kdot..F

Жыл бұрын

Can’t go back to 3 after this

@Creshex8

Жыл бұрын

As I gyro user, I will counter by saying gyro aiming is very bad. it is more addictive that meth and will result in people all around you in shooter games dying very quickly.

@hb-robo

Жыл бұрын

Splatoon gyro is not nearly as good as this. It allows for the basics but you’re still at the whims of “stick pushing” the camera horizontally.

@1unar_eclipse

Жыл бұрын

@@hb-robo It can still be really fast

@Pickelrye

Жыл бұрын

Easy to use, hard to master.

The razer hydra gave me instant flashbacks to playing on the wii when you first showed it off, i was in awe the whole time, i really love gimmick controllers so its cool to find a new one I've never seen before!!

This is the first time I have heard about gyro aim and flick stick today, neat! I do hope that this information is spread around more.

Fun fact about the Razer Hydra: One of the first Steam Controller prototypes is an Xbox 360 controller hacked in half with a Hydra controller taking up the missing spot. It's very cursed.

@starryari2389

2 жыл бұрын

I looked this up and holy shit, that’s amazing honestly. Still very cursed, but I had a good laugh over this. Definitely looks like the type of controller you’d get at a friends house when you play co-op games.

@Elenrai

Жыл бұрын

@@starryari2389 That was the only good thing about the wii u, the pro controller was an obvious purchase so with the monitor controller alongside it meant everyone had a good controller!

@alex.g7317

Жыл бұрын

@@starryari2389 what search term did u use?

As a Splatoon player, I'm extremely grateful for you taking the time to tell people about motion controls, and extremely intrigued by the new motion control options that I've never seen before. Great video!

@Nicolas_GE

2 жыл бұрын

now i legit want flick stick in splatoon since the right stick can't do vertical aim anyways

@MineNAdventurer

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree.

@kdsm6424

2 жыл бұрын

I think fortnite also has built-in flick stick controls aswell, and boomerang x but that's all of the games I'm familiar with that has those natively and on the switch

@lemon66111

Жыл бұрын

@@kdsm6424 fn motion controls suck in comparison to splatoon

@Nicolas_GE

Жыл бұрын

@@resyntax camera recenter isn't flick stick, while it can do similar things it isn't as fast

Okay, the usage of SRB2 Music caught me completely off-guard, but that has earned you an *_instant_* subscription. You are indeed a chad of culture

You sir have uploaded a rare TF2 video for me That is, it's introduced an entire detailed area of TF2 knowledge I simply have never heard of. wow

The problem with gyro is that outside of Nintendo it's underused and it still holds a negative stigma from the Wii era, even though that was for waggle shakes and not aiming. What you did with the six sense is similar to how fps games were on the Wii, and I think it's actually even better than gyro, the only thing that it would need, as you said, is being able to use the stick to turn the camera for big turns.

@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I don't get why Wii has such a negative stigma. It's biggest flaw is that sunlight could mess with your controller input, because of it using infrared for your pointer on screen, but bluetooth for the rest of the gyro. The gyro itself works just fine, a lot of developers were pretty bad at using it, but I played Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 recently with it (and tried without), and Wiimote is the equivalent to gyro aiming that the Wii has, and it worked really well when my blinds were down.

@LoraLoibu

2 жыл бұрын

Nintendo actually was able to see through the stigma and used gyro controls for splatoon! And man, the community _loves it_

@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire

2 жыл бұрын

@@gamecavalier3230 That's true but I blame the developers, not the Wii for that.

@commscan314

2 жыл бұрын

Also not to mention a certain game that's quite famous for allowing a certain handheld console to be hacked to allow the user to run unauthorized custom software.

@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire

2 жыл бұрын

@@commscan314 Cubic Ninja?

19:17 Oh my God it wasn’t just a hand, it were ARMS I never tried out a controller in fps before. In Korea, PC is the platform most of the people enjoys the game with cause of abundance of PC cafes, so. It was very Interesting to see the other side. Great work!

@Celloboi58

2 жыл бұрын

DEWILL DA WAY

@eking6610

2 жыл бұрын

Alright

@averg6261

2 жыл бұрын

he just wants a hug

@user-sq2iz6cj6z

2 жыл бұрын

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@Weskerdize

2 жыл бұрын

100+ degree fov moment cry about it

Hahaha I'm so glad I found this video! Been playing CS2 on Steam Deck and it has been surprising people when I hold my own. It is crazy difficult and, of course I prefer a m&kb, but obviously if I'm on the Deck I don't always have that with me but I want to enjoy the game.

This might be worth looking into for me, as i never really got the hang of using a mouse to the same level as i did with a controller back when i played on consoles. Thank you for opening my eyes.

Shoutouts to Splatoon for, in my mind at least, making gyroscope + right stick the new meta for console shooters.

@wilsonweiseng6485

2 жыл бұрын

For a shooter game, i mean, it's good to know they made a way to aim better

@CBaller

2 жыл бұрын

Was just about to post something about Splatoon but people beat me to it lol. I use the Classic because it reminds me of how chargers in Splatoon play; I just miss the leniency that flick shots have in Splatoon

@ED-gw9rg

2 жыл бұрын

@@CBaller The Sydney and Classic are currently fighting each other for the title of "favorite Rifle" because they both remind me of Splatoon's Chargers.

@C.A._Old

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah But How About S : PS3 And XBOX360 Team Fortress 2 ? They Still Alives Presents Todays ! +1

@mc3941

2 жыл бұрын

Hello fellow splatoon enjoyers

I'd given up on taking controller fps seriously 20 years ago. As an esports coach, this was massively eye opening.

@ananon5771

2 жыл бұрын

that's why your mind needs to be opened like this,controller aim is not just about aim assist,it can be far more skill based while also being more viable if devs just gave controllers a chance.

@-cactus.raven-

Жыл бұрын

May sound stupid, especially since I’m a complete casual, but if any scene has a dedicated competitive player-base, writing them completely off is kinda spitting in the face of any effort that gets put in,, especially if the reason is due to the input method that gets used.

@Micromation

Жыл бұрын

@@-cactus.raven- problem with console games designed for controllers is that they rely heavily on VERY generous aim assist. As soon as you give people a game that doesn't have ANY assist they deem it unplayable (MAG on PS3 was great example of that, it was one of better multiplayer FPS on that generation of consoles and it died because people just couldn't stomach the raw inputs showing them how much they actually suck). This is why Halo multiplayer was such acclaimed console success and barely anybody gave the shit about the franchise on PC because while for us it was a dumbed down, slower take on Unreal Tournament, console players for the first time were able to play FPS game and not utterly suck at it. In competitive setting you can't really accept these kind of assists and unfortunately, they're not optional but an integrated part of the experience. Hence why each and every console Call of Duty tournament was a pure meme, entirely ignoring here how bad of a competitive experience CoD as a game is.

@user-ee6ng4bb9l

Жыл бұрын

@@Micromation You reminded me of my thoughts on Quake and arena shooters in general. Always thought the reason the genre died was because of consoles, aim assist doesn't do a whole lot of those games and making predictive shots. Also the movement required on older console controllers was just not possible. Hence the scripting of movement which most fps games have now. With this they seem playable, honestly gives me hope. That being said this controller setup seems very difficult for the majority of people to use and would require such a learning curve it won't catch on.

@Micromation

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ee6ng4bb9l it's a new control scheme and people have no muscle memory associated. If you don't put any effort into it, you will never become proficient. If you've never played with mouse, your first time (and probably several dozen hours later) would suck too until you got accustomed and built some muscle memory.

Another cool thing about BotW is that flick stick sort of exists. Obviously there’s gyro aim (and it’s awesome), but if you use the left stick to face link in a direction and then hold down the shield button, it will make the camera look where link is looking. I was trying to explain to a friend who uses regular stick aim (somehow) why this is so helpful and I didn’t have a term to describe it.

@PorkSnorkle

Жыл бұрын

Z targetting was in ocarina of time long before botw but I see you point

@z.m.6053

Жыл бұрын

@@PorkSnorkle I actually haven’t played OoT (but I’ve played other Zelda games w/z-targeting). Does z-targeting in that game turn the camera even if there isn’t actually anything to target?

@dutczar5436

9 ай бұрын

How is this different from camera resetting in games since, probably even the N64? (The thing that happens when you press the camera stick)

@papersonic9941

4 ай бұрын

@@z.m.6053 yes, in fact it's your only form of camera control in that game.

@z.m.6053

4 ай бұрын

You mean slowly turning the camera with the right stick doesn’t make you feel in control?

This reminds me of the good old Splatoon and it’s gyro controls. My first ever fps game I use a gyro, and it was a experience! When you get use to it, it is actually just like the video says. Almost like a mouse but somewhat, “better” as it’s like a physical 3D movement.

Ever since I own a Steam Controller, I no longer doubt the gyro aiming advantage. Nintendo have fully embraced it with their Splatoon series and few third-party games have it as an option. While, Sony is slowly getting there and Microsoft never bother to give gyro a chance. My next challenge is mastering flick stick.

@chickennugget6684

2 жыл бұрын

microsoft just wants cheap controllers. ..and whatever that elite controller bulls*** is, like come on that isn't going to give you an advantage in a shooter.

@Neoxon619

2 жыл бұрын

Fortnite actually has flick stick naively, so you can try mastering it there.

@HappyBeezerStudios

8 ай бұрын

if Microsoft would give it any thought they could've made gyro aim a default feature for over a decade. They own both Xbox and WIndows, so if they would've added the feature as part of the XInput standard, we would've had gyro aim in both platforms since at least 2005. That still doesn't mean that games have to support it, but at least it would be part of the hardware and thus an option.

Honestly I just want to try it so I can "fall in love" with tf2 again, relearning all the controls and funny quirks that are possible. Looks so fun!

@Pikachara

Жыл бұрын

can i get an unban c:

@vivelespatat2670

Жыл бұрын

@@Pikachara what the fuck are you talking about

@danialrafid

Жыл бұрын

Fatherless pfp

@noynayru

Жыл бұрын

degenerate

@reimuhakurei2123

Жыл бұрын

Wohoolad R34

I love gyro aiming. If you had done a poll for Gyro vs. Mouse it might have been a more interesting comparison. Mouse vs. Tiny Joystick is clearly not a fair contest. Gyro is basically a mouse. I agree. I also set the camera stick's sensitivy as high as possible when using it in Splatoon, so I have a faster way to turn around. Almost like the coarse vs fine adjustment on a microscope. It's not that complicated.

This is wild. I'm surprised I haven't seen more on gyro aiming for FPS. Seems clearly superior

I want to do this now. Idea that popped into my head: if they allowed Spy to be able to move at max speed disguised as every class, controllers would let players attempt to match the movement speed of the heavier classes he’s disguised as, thereby needlessly increasing the skill depth of the game, which I’m all for.

@mohamadparadox2453

2 жыл бұрын

mimic the speed of classes manually?

@devindemsyn

2 жыл бұрын

That would be a nice little buff for spy

@michaellin4553

Жыл бұрын

Problem is that would force everyone who takes spy seriously to buy a controller to have disguises that actually fool players. That, or script awkward key inputs at preset speeds for movement.

@robotrannicthesurprisingly9085

Жыл бұрын

the shift key does exist

@BeesechurgerProductions

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact: a spy on a controller with the cloak and dagger, crouching and moving as slow as possible will not drain any cloak

I really like the Splatoon school of aiming which involves using a higher sensitivity on the analog stick to make big movements and then a much lower sensitivity on the gyro for precision corrections.

@bbenny9033

2 жыл бұрын

i reckon itll be a preferential choice between that and the flick stick stuff

@Thornskade

2 жыл бұрын

The flick stick is far better, I can tell you that much. You can't beat that level of fine control and the ability to instantly turn to any direction you want with traditional analog movement.

@Cheesecannon25

2 жыл бұрын

There is no contest high sens and flickStick FS is better in about every way

@tiggerbiggo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thornskade You can instantly turn to any direction you want without flick stick. Flick stick is a preference, it is not superior to normal motion aim. You can turn around in one frame with properly calibrated motion sensitivity.

@Thornskade

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiggerbiggo lolno

Watching this brought me back to the splatoon days whem i was younger, good vid

Thank you.. For your contribution.... This really opens up a lot of possibilities O_O

I learned the superiority of Gyro while trying to aim the bow in BotW. To compare it to mouse aim is very accurate

@frog382

Жыл бұрын

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@poker8086

Жыл бұрын

@@frog382he’s right.

@frog382

Жыл бұрын

@@poker8086 Looking forward seeing professional counterstrike players using controllers. Aim is very important in cs, i hope they learn this secret... 🤨

@1venusflytrap

Жыл бұрын

@@frog382 nobody is arguing its as good as mouse for high level professional cs lmfao. but for the vast majority of players its absolutely viable once you learn it

@frog382

Жыл бұрын

@@1venusflytrap You should not compare it to the mouse, since its inevitable people will organise busting of that myth. If you approach it as a upgrade to the existing controller instead, you will not receive the shit. The reality is it is closer to the controller than to a mouse, so just call it for what it is. I actually believe mouse will become obsolete at some point, but its hard to imagine how.

This is why I believe that gyro controls should be implemented in every game that has aiming to some degree. I love the comodity of playing with a controller, but I absolutely despise everytime I have to aim down something with it. Great vid Solar!

@user-ro9bu2jq3y

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!! Going from gyro to stick in a game that doesn't support gyro feels almost unplayable

@AttacMage

Жыл бұрын

long as they make it better than OW2's. tried playing that on switch and it feels hellish. then again, I didn't try to tweak settings if there were any.

@Moth-man

Жыл бұрын

Thank god the steam deck lets you just enable gyro externally for every game

@pwrsocket

Жыл бұрын

I loved using gyro for warface

@dinghe6948

Жыл бұрын

Splatoon walked so other shooters could run

my uncle actually works for designing the flick stick controls for cs:go and i thought it was really gimmicky at first but the I watched this video and wished he hadn't moved 1000 miles away because i couldnt play on his steam deck anymore :( . Nice video btw keep up the good stuff!

My first TF2 controller experience was when I first got my Steam Controller at launch (I was that guy). It was actually a serviceable experience. I don’t remember whether or not I used gyro controls and I certainly didn’t go in-depth with voice line binds and such, but I used the right touchpad as a mouse input and was able to enjoy playing.

As someone who recently tried playing Splatoon for the first time, the controls I found most intuitive was to play with the joycons separated from each other. It still acts like one controller, but all of the gyro controls are on the right joycon, making it feel more like a mouse. From that perspective, I can definitely see the appeal of the razer hydra, and if there were something similar (but good) I'd definitely be interested in getting it.

@donovanjoseph737

Жыл бұрын

Is that true? I’ve always just used sticks on a singular controller to aim, but I might have to try that, sounds fun!

@CorrosiveCitrus

Жыл бұрын

Split controllers need to become more of a thing. It's sad outside of VR that Joycons are the only ones.

@ThomasDailey

Жыл бұрын

@@CorrosiveCitrus It's nice not being handcuffed while you play. I wish the joycons were bigger though.

@diegomedina9637

Жыл бұрын

That's how I've been playing Doom Eternal on Switch.

@homeyworkey

Жыл бұрын

@@ThomasDailey What about this idea: Have a left joycon-like design and a mouse (and some how sync them up). This will give the benefits of a controller (precise stick movement compared to WASD), while you get the benefits of the mouse (camera control in basically all games are enhanced) The only issue I can see is the lack of buttons. But I think this could be worked through by adding more mouse/controller buttons whether that's on the side of the mouse or on the back of the joycon. Ergonomics might be uncomfortable, but not sure until it's tested tbh. plus the controller would be designed better than a joycon which is constrained to the switch's shape.

Seeing the crosshair go off center is the most cursed thing I have ever witnessed in TF2.

@C.A._Old

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah But How About S : PS3 And XBOX360 Team Fortress 2 ? They Still Alives Presents Todays ! +1

@KyleDavis328

2 жыл бұрын

Having played modern warfare reflex on Wii back in the day, it was a weird nostalgia trip.

@blackfox5413

2 жыл бұрын

I can't even imagine how a spectator feels seeing THIS

The fact that you use that one ost from Kill la Kill at 2:55 is pretty dope

I haven't used Gyro much, but I do understand it somewhat. I played several shooters on the Wii and Wii U with fleshed out controls on the Wii Mote & Nunchuk. Aiming with them felt extremely intuitive. I realized the flaws in the input method but it was miles ahead of analog stick aiming.

I feel like gyro and flick stick are the biggest innovations in fps controls since standard twin stick aiming.

@parknplay8328

2 жыл бұрын

the only problem is that people find it hard to convert from one method to the other. Most players aren't willing to dedicate the time to learning it

@justarandomperson3700

2 жыл бұрын

absolutely

@Thornskade

2 жыл бұрын

@@parknplay8328 I did since I play games on my TV sometimes, and I started playing fps games with gyro once I got ahold of a Steam Controller. I'm not using gyro aim for the heck of it as I maintain that a mouse is still better. My aim on gyro controller has small imprecisions due to the slight jitter of your hands. This jitter is alleviated with a mouse since it rests on a desk, giving it stability, kinda like a gun stock. In that sense, gyro controller aim is a bit like aiming a gun without a gun stock. It's similar to aiming with a stock, but there is definitely less stability to your aim.

The switch controller is how I was introduced to gyro controllers, and while I still prefer a keyboard and mouse, aiming in BOTW with the bow using gyro was amazing! Gyro actually made controllers competitive to PC now!

Sixense/Hydra with flick stick might be interesting. I've often wanted to try something like it with dual/split gyro controllers (joycon, but bigger?) with left gyro for looking around with the camera, right gyro for aiming the crosshair, left stick for movement and right stick for flick stick rotation. I've never quite gotten to the right combination of hardware and controls to get it to work properly though.

@HappyBeezerStudios

8 ай бұрын

Maybe VR controllers could used be used for that, just without the VR part. They have motion sensing and enough keys, unlike joycons which are tiny.

@death_au

8 ай бұрын

@@HappyBeezerStudios Yeah. I really want to play around with the Valve Index "knuckles" controllers, but can't justify the outlay on a VR rig at the moment

What’s so criminal is that the Daulshock 3 controllers had gyro, which means technically gyro aim could’ve been implemented in so many FPS games (yes I know gyro aim wasn’t too mainstream until the 3DS and Wii U)

@diegomedina9637

Жыл бұрын

The issue here is that while Wii and PS3 had some sort of Gyro option Xbox, which a big part of online console shooters are played on never had any sort of Gyro option.

@Creshex8

Жыл бұрын

@@diegomedina9637 I think the problem the OP alluded to, is that no developer even conceived the gyro could be used for aiming. I'm not even sure what the first gyro-aim game was or when it came out.

@chiefhydropolis

Жыл бұрын

@@Creshex8 literally no one uwed gyro on ps3 ever. lbp used it to tilt your character around but that was the most useful feature attached to the sixaxis (which isnt even a full 3d sensor as it has just pitch and yaw so no roll), AND IT WAS MAKING FUNNY COTTON MAN TURN HIS HEAD AROUND. some usermade levels in lbp2 also used it but ehhhhhhhhhhhh

@WiseEndro333

Жыл бұрын

@@chiefhydropolis Besides LBP only games I recall using PS3's gyro were Uncharted games & Mirror's Edge when balancing on thin objects. Such an underutilized mechanic. EDIT: I mean games that I own. There's probably more games that use the gyro but I haven't played them.

@M8Military

Жыл бұрын

​@@WiseEndro333 you could drive in gta 4 via sixaxis 😂

I feel like Nerrel’s video on Gyro is one of the most convincing videos on the topic I’ve seen. Definitely recommend if you have skepticisms over motion controls on Controllers

This video reminds me a lot of Nerrel's videos regarding gyro control in video games, and such

17:12 Solarlight it made me laugh just to see a VERY small portion of the piechart being compettive

Ive always believed gyro is the future of console gaming. However it always gets heavy backlash. If you go on forums of people asking why it doesnt have it people respond "because we dont need that gimmicky shit". And if its on by default, most players turn it off without trying it. Because "motion controls bad". Im honestly excited to see steam deck endorse it heavily. Hopefully this will be a new age of gyro. Not just in splatoon and zelda.

@Lady_GrimReaper

Жыл бұрын

It's pretty much nintendo's fault

@ScoutOW2

Жыл бұрын

@@Lady_GrimReaper How? Their implementation in Splatoon and BotW is better than majority of companies have done.

@Lady_GrimReaper

Жыл бұрын

@@ScoutOW2 i'm talking about the wii

@mrexists5400

Жыл бұрын

yeah, some of the first motion controls were bad at best, utter crap at worst at that left a bad impression

@SneedsterSpeedster

Жыл бұрын

I'm just a stubborn prick so I will never attempt to learn how to use it and will never, ever want to.

I have thousands of hours on tf2 and over the past few weeks I’ve been getting kind of sick of it, trying to learn how to use gyro aiming has genuinely reignited my excitement for the game, thank you for making this video sir, I’ll definitely be sticking around for your future uploads

@pemo2676

10 ай бұрын

hey man hope this worked out well for you, its been ~9 months

@Micecheese

6 ай бұрын

@@pemo2676 hey man hope this worked out well for you, its been ~1 year

I've been playing video games since I was around 5-6. I used controller for nearly everything- (hand me down PS2, later an X box 360) it's just what i'm used to. I mainly use an X box one controller with a custom configuration- but after watching this im considering getting a controller with motion control just to see what it can do. I appreciate you standing up for the 3.5% of us that use controllers♥️

As a controller player since day one (because laptop) and it's nice to hear someone talk in depth about it

As a splatoon comp player, It's nice to see people realize and learn how good motion controls are ^^

@topmate6193

9 ай бұрын

Amen

@yamo511

8 ай бұрын

comp splatoon lol

@uni-geo

8 ай бұрын

@@yamo511 shhhhh. we like to keep it a secret

@IceBlueLugia

8 ай бұрын

@@yamo511It’s a very real thing and you’d likely be shit at it if you don’t use gyro

@vanilla8956

Ай бұрын

​@@yamo511 Splatoon is extremely mechanically intensive I don't know why you guys always react like this lol

It’s really weird how gyro aim and flickstick end up giving you the jittery aim and the quick 180 flicking of an aimbot, yet still dependent on actual skill to pull off.

@MaximG.

2 жыл бұрын

And because of that it can get you votekicked for "cheating"

@notcarbuncle1493

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaximG. I mean it definitely FEELS like cheating to me. If a keyboard player rebound their arrow keys to face them in fixed directions people would call that cheating

@arandomcommenter412

2 жыл бұрын

@@notcarbuncle1493 no

@Nope-ln4yj

2 жыл бұрын

@@notcarbuncle1493 If you can set those settings in game, then it's not cheating, pretty simple. My mouse supports buttons that emulate it spinning in 90 degrees for certain games, that's not cheating either considering it's simply build in by the company, it's just how some devices work.

15:15 Respect for using Reala Theme!

I love the gyro aim in BOTW and TOTK. Never thought to use it in a shooter... want to see it in more games now.

im glad gyro tech is finally getting the recognition it deserves

@Pickelrye

6 ай бұрын

"the recognition it deserves" That could mean anything!

@corneliuscornwallis

6 ай бұрын

@@Pickelrye i did mean something

@Pickelrye

6 ай бұрын

oh shit@@corneliuscornwallis I did NOT expect you to reply to that. Yea I'm glad that gyro's getting into more places as an option, but there's still the reputation of Wii-waggle-itis. I kinda figured that with a year-old comment I could swoop on by and mention that the recognition is multi-sided, but I guess this is what I get for being shocked in a reply section: lengthy reasons with beeg text.

I have always thought gyro controls were pretty good even if I personally prefer a mouse due to being more used to it, it is a shame that the first thing everyone thinks about when they hear "motion controls" is like wii sports swinging a wii thing around when it has so much potential.

@paolosworld99

2 жыл бұрын

Nerrel

@C.A._Old

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah But How About S : PS3 And XBOX360 Team Fortress 2 ? They Still Alives Presents Todays ! +1

jeez that hichiker thumb tho 3:47

I knew about how good gyro aim was before coming into this video, but I only feel like it's good for fine movements. Never had I heard of flick stick before, that really does solve the problem

I remember first seeing the type of technology intergraded in Splatoon and thought it was brilliant. Took some time to learn, but once I did, I never want to play on a controller without it. I am so happy that more games are getting this feature.

You legend. Great work with this video! I've been looking forward to it, and you did not disappoint! It's such a pity the Hydra wouldn't let you turn the camera with the stick 😬 I have a couple of prototypes of games that use gyro for free aim and right stick for camera (optionally even flick stick) and it's such a great combo. Gaming would look so different today if the Wiimote had a stick

@PotatoSebs

2 жыл бұрын

The epic man himself. Thanks for bringing Flick Stick to the community!

@kekker_

2 жыл бұрын

I've been wondering what it would be like for dual controllers (like the Hydra or dual joycons) to have one gyro set to normal gyro aim and the second set to free cursor, so you can use both gyros at the same time.

@plummeted

2 жыл бұрын

How shish its the flick stick guy

The key binding things reminds me of how I got a Logitech G600 MMO mouse that has a 3rd mouse button so you can chain things like ctrl + 5 right on your mouse. Nice to see more info on how to get a controller work because I never even knew gyro and flick were things.

@HappyBeezerStudios

8 ай бұрын

Programmable macro keys aren't really a new thing.

When you started showing off the Razer Hydra gameplay, it looked completely normal to me… then I realized the hundreds of hours playing Metroid Prime with the Wiimote aiming has wired my brain like an absolute goofball

I played splatoon 1 heavy when it came out on the Wii U and I realized how broken motion aim was pretty early on a lot of people in the community would turn off gyro aiming at the beginning because it was new at the time and people weren't used to it but you would see everyone who wasn't using motion get stomped by people who were

@evinickbruggen6407

3 ай бұрын

Splatoon is honestly the reason I even consider motion control good in fps games

Actually played with one yesterday, and a few times previously. Gotta say: I aim so much better as most of the classes except sniper, and even that i can just do alright with a huntsman. It takes some getting used to, but its certaintly worth it if you have the opportunity. Oh and a tip: Default nintendo pro controller binds in TF2 are awful, change them immediatly. Theres no default jump bind, but theres a default contracker bind??? Not hard to fix though.

@ananon5771

2 жыл бұрын

the switch controller config was made for the steam controller,which has paddles for stuff like jumping

@C.A._Old

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah But How About S : PS3 And XBOX360 Team Fortress 2 ? They Still Alives Presents Todays ! +1

@Thornskade

2 жыл бұрын

@@C.A._Old They can't use gyro on the 360 and PS3, they have to live with what they got or switch to PC.

@C.A._Old

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thornskade Oh Yeah ? Thing About ! People Still Alives İn PS3 And XBOX360 ! +1

@Thornskade

2 жыл бұрын

@@C.A._Old Are you suffering from a perpetual stroke or something?

The creativity in this video is incredible.

I ofc used gyro to play Mario Kart Wii. I then continued using it to play Gran Turismo Sport. Even though I have used it regularly, I've never considered using it in any fps games. This is awesome!

Gyro aiming the bow in BOTW singlehandedly changed my opinion on controllers and motion controls simultaneously. I would still prefer a mouse wherever possible, but it's shockingly effective for something I previously dismissed as a clumsy gimmick. The "flick stick" is something neat I haven't seen before. Clearly there's still room for innovative and *useful* input methods!

@ralphthejedimaster

2 жыл бұрын

i saw flick stick when it was first created and seeing it get as far as it has over the last 2 years has been so awesome, even some console games have official support for it!

As a PS4 Duelshock 4 player, this video is GOLD. My mind is actually blown, and I had no idea gyroscope aiming was actually viable, it's mostly just tossed around as a joke. The high sensitivity actually makes this possible and flick stick is completely new to me as well. Despite playing with the right stick for 8 years, I've just learned something new. Thanks Solar, and thanks for defending the casual controller plebs!

I've given gyro a fair go in the past but it's NEVER been presented with a pause bind and flick stick, just a little complimentary thing to classic stick aiming, so I got *slightly* more precision than before but still had to wait 3-5 business days to actually turn significantly. I also always hate how stick controls have such an emphasis on tilt vs flick, being used to binary inputs with pc, tilt is just a nightmare to get muscle memory for from scratch. This has entirely changed my view on controllers and I'm now really excited to learn to use them better with this control scheme. Thank you!

my personal theory is that mariokart has ruined the reputation of gyro controls

Gyro aim is underrated its funny how console players and devs completely neglect it

@Genjink

2 жыл бұрын

Ive always put down gyro controllers because my hands dont really stay still so my aim would just shake everywhere compared to a stick where its just. Yeah

@ralphthejedimaster

2 жыл бұрын

@@Genjink you might be able to fix that issue with steam input, i believe there's a setting where you can set a minimum movement threshold so that your shaking won't actually move the crosshair. if you have to put it too high then it may mess with aiming but it'd be worth messing around with if you're interested

@jimbomclimbo7467

2 жыл бұрын

It hurt brain I dont like

@pawes7418

2 жыл бұрын

@@Genjink Just put your arms on legs , that's the main position for gyro aiming

@chickennugget6684

2 жыл бұрын

honestly it's disappointing how Sony put work to add gyro to their controllers only for it to barely be used, atleast not for aiming. maybe there's been progress with ps5 games, but idk I don't own one. if only we could all get the bad stigma surrounding gyro from the console community (not Nintendo) to go away..

Knew it had something to do with gyro. I used to play Splatoon 2 and the difference between stick and gyro is night and day. Even more so when used in combination

@yousorooo

2 жыл бұрын

Splatoon really pioneered gyro aiming in competitive shooting games.

We've seen motion controls go from a complete gimmick to a perfectly good input method and I think that's great.

gyro is the only thing narrowing the gap between controller and mkb without cheating with aim assist

@CommandoBlack123

6 ай бұрын

Facts. Controller players need to stop using legacy controls

@dreadnaught2448

5 ай бұрын

​@CommandoBlack123 I've begun practicing playing fps games with motion controls with the sensitivity for motion turned way up. It is so precise that I don't need aim assist. Haven't tried flick stick yet.

As someone who already likes gyro aim, flick stick sounds ingenious (albeit difficult to get used to). This makes me wish Xbox had support for either

I agree, I've tried using a Switch Pro controller and definitely felt how you could play well with it with practice. But, that's just the thing, it takes practice. A new skill you have to learn. When you have years of experience playing using a mouse and keyboard, you master it, it becomes totally intuitive. Moving to a controller, even with gyro controls, feels awful at first by comparison, since all of that stuff you've learned to do intuitively is gone. You have to learn the controls all over again, which of course means you perform worse, you're busy trying to get used to aiming which distracts you from other important things like spychecking. And because they perform worse when trying it and aren't going to invest the time to actually get good with it, most everyone thinks controllers are garbage.

Watching someone play with gyro, looks like they’re having a stroke

i’m so happy someone mentioned kill la kill and the goat Splatoon in a video.

I have been a big proponent of Gyro aim for a while now, I consider it a core feature for a controller to have these days and the fact the Xbox Series Controllers lack it is shocking. but its lack of acceptance of even understanding by people isnt just a TF2 problem. part of this is probably due to stigma around motion controles in general left over from the nintendo Wii and its over reliance on Waggle control. People see the Wii and by extension motion controls as a "casual only" thing. And again, the most easy to set up, core PC controller option, the Xbox controller, is at this point the only current gen controller that lacks the feature, meaning most probably dont have access to it.

@screech-screecher536

2 жыл бұрын

Seeing that this is the first time I’ve heard people really praising gyro controls or them being talked about at all in recent memory and that most can get on perfectly fine without them it seems obvious why Microsoft doesn’t invest in them. It’s not really required, they already have tons of people on PC using them and they’re in a good position. Maybe next series x version release they might consider implementing them.

@DallinBackstrom

2 жыл бұрын

You might be right about were the stigma comes from, but honestly, you'd think that most of the people who feel this way have only ever watched a 2009 xbox kinect commercial and are under the impression that waggling your arms about like a noodly cartoon character is, or even ever was, the state of the art. While the Wii often failed to provide a compelling use for its unique controller, I would argue that it succeeded more often than not, at least within the 1st-party library of games. A lot of games on the Wii play... really really well, especially first person shooters. IR pointer aiming is, in my opinion, better than gyro aiming, and possibly even better than mouse aiming. it never looses calibration and gives you a very wide range of movement which maps 1:1 on to your character's movements. Metroid prime 3, one of the first big examples of this type of aiming, came out in august 2007, less than a year after the Wii was released. Other notable early examples of IR pointer aim include resident evil 4 "wii edition" (2007) and sin and punishment 2 (2009). Sega's "The Conduit" (2009) also has great aiming, although I must add the caveat that it is a bad game, and you should definitely play the superior "the Conduit 2" (2011) instead. Regardless, all of these games are well over a decade old at this point. In fact, metroid prime 3 and resident evil 4 "wii edition" are both older than TF2 itself. I get the feeling that if many gamers had actually bothered to play any of these games, they might not have such a negative impression of motion controls as a whole. But they didn't. They never played the games at all. They saw the Wii sports commercials, saw people standing up, and decided that they were right out of there. Or, even worse, they did give the games a chance, but happened to play zelda or mario-- both of which use controller waggling for no good reason, where a button press would have been better-- and abandoned motion controls right then and there. It's tragic, because some of the best motion experiences are, in fact, first person shooters. the IR aiming of the Wii was great, and current-gen gyro aim, while less precise and impressive than the IR pointer, is far better than dual analogue. The Wii is a sword that cut both ways. it offered the best pointing/aiming experience that has ever been available on consoles, and in that has not been equalled or surpassed** by any subsequent mass-market machine. But people also deride it for retarding the acceptance of motion controls by the wider gaming community. I must disagree. The Wii was a machine, nothing more, nothing less. the experiences it provided varied greatly, just like any other games console-- but, in a more pronounced way, because of the new axis of input available for developers. Some devs used them to create novel experiences that were meaningful improvements on older control schemes. Others didn't. Either way, claiming that the Wii is responsible for how people view motion controls gives too much credit to Nintendo's marketing department, and doesn't put enough impetus on gamers themselves, who by-and-large appear to have eschewed thinking critically about the issue and forming their own, nuanced opinions-- instead opting in to a ready-made take, served to them piping hot from the presses of gaming news media outlets everywhere.

@Ozzianman

2 жыл бұрын

@@DallinBackstrom NGL, not mentioning Red Steel 2 is almost a crime. It's the best Wii shooter imo. It nails the FPS mechanics while also oozing with style.

This has shed new light on controllers for FPS. The flick stick + gyro combo honestly seem like it could work for any FPS game.

i ABSOLUTELY *LOVE* that the intro music is from splatoon, I love the games AND it primarily uses motion controls lol

Honestly, you are the first person to open my eyes to a gyro controller. The way you put it, id say it offers even more control than a mouse.

This was actually crazy informative. Had never heard of gyro aiming etc. Thanks for sharing man, really well put together, researched and presented. Well done.

@Creshex8

Жыл бұрын

I played Resident Evil 4 on the Wii and the aiming was fun and very effective. When I got a Switch, I mistakenly thought it was like the WiiMote, and had a pretty wacky period of adjustment as I learned about gyros. I was also always wondering how my PS4 controller could let me use motion control to type on its keyboard without any IR sensor.

I had no idea gyro aiming even existed before watching this, thanks for enlightening me

Watching this for like the 15th time now. Walking always gets me.

There’s a couple of things that could be done to help purely analog stick aiming for example different aim responses curves will help alongside aim assist these types of controller settings could make it viable

@HappyBeezerStudios

8 ай бұрын

When a game does it properly, you can set the curve yourself. But aim assist will always be hard to balance. There is no competitive controller play in CS because there isn't enough aim assist to make it viable. And in Apex controller is the better choice, because aim assist is so strong, especially up close.

Walking demoman doesn’t exist, he can’t make you laugh to death Walking demoman: 21:00

@Wombli8781

6 ай бұрын

Hes walking

YOOOO FINALLY When I bring up controllers to people for PC games, they often shake it off by saying 'sticks are bad and not precise', while ignoring the entire point of gyro, or saying its a gimmick and inferior. Glad to see this video explain how a controller can keep up to par with keyboard+mouse, and I personally didnt even know about the flick stick, probably because I use the steam controller for PC games.

@howtoavenge1016

2 жыл бұрын

i didnt even realize a lot of modern controllers had gyro. Im def trying this tonight

music choice is on point

this video changed my life. i love playing tf2 with my steam deck. total game changer. i’ve really gotten good at motion. i’m proud lol.