LR also allows you to integrate keywords, tags, labels and whatnot in the processed image filename. Unfortunately not in the subfolder name, which is an awesome C1 feature.

Very interesting video, thanks. But the variants that you "only" have in C1? They're just called "virtual copies" in LR. Did you miss that, or did I misunderstand your presentation?

Actually im a newby to capture one , Thought the video was very informative on how it will help me a lot . Appreciate the time .

@forestchaput

5 жыл бұрын

We’re glad you liked it!

I couldn't find the way in a sation or teathering how to keep Data on Slot Cards as it also on HD

Your number one reason, the photshop work, can be done exactly the same in LR. You simply right click on the psd -> 'Edit In' -> 'Edit in Photoshop' -> select 'Edit original'. (The original in this case will be the psd file - NOT the raw file). And voila! The "-edit" renaming is also easly changed in the LR-settings.

@forestchaput

5 жыл бұрын

I wish it was that easy. Unfortunately, with the process you described above any changes you made in Lightroom since saving it back from Photoshop will not appear in Photoshop. You have to pick. You either get your original Photoshop layers and no new Lightroom adjustments, or you can have a flattened Photoshop file with the new Lightroom adjustments. You can't have both yet...

Never had an issue tethering to LR. If you can't find your files in LR then your not importing properly. I can even search by keywords to find a specific model or event or use the facial recognition option.

@forestchaput

4 жыл бұрын

That’s great Raymond! I’m glad it’s been reliable for you. We’ve had many students in the past have difficulty with it. We have over 20 students tethering each year and inevitably one or two of them have consistent issues with LR tethering. It’s definitely not as reliable as C1Pro. As for the facial recognition, yes, that is a nice feature 👍

@risbill1

4 жыл бұрын

@@forestchaput we used to have issues when you had to have the Canon remote app open on the computer as well as Lightroom but once LR added the option for tethering built in we haven't had any other issues. If I didn't also need Photoshop I'd give capture one a try.

The biggest problem i have with LR and PS is that the performance with each release is getting worse and worse. LR for me at the moment is crawling on an i7 machine when other software like Affinity and Blender run smoothly with large files. Does Capture One have an effective file management system in place yet?

@forestchaput

5 жыл бұрын

Performance of PS is largely based on your CPU performance and if you have a good graphics card. It will also depend on how much of the available RAM you have used up by Photoshop and if any other programs are also running, how much RAM those are trying to use, too. You can find that in PS Preferences under Performance. Yes, I also have seen performance issues with LR, but I have not experienced performance issues with Capture One Pro. To answer your question: yes, it has a Catalog that you can use. You can either use it just as one uses Lightroom's catalog (they are very much the same besides some naming conventions being a bit different). Additionally, Capture One gives you a Sessions based workflow and then the flexibility to add that Session to your Catalog after the shoot - arguably giving more flexibility than what LR offers. Most photographers use the Sessions based workflow if they are shooting for a specific project, rather than shooting a variety of stuff to card - in which case a catalog workflow may be the better choice.

I wish there were a photo merge feature for bracketed images. It’s the one and only thing I need in C1. Everything else is a no brainer that C1 is far superior.

@forestchaput

4 жыл бұрын

I agree! That would be awesome.

Ugh! ..... I must say how sorry I feel for the poor girl having to go through that.

@forestchaput

5 жыл бұрын

The total filming time for that section of the video was only about 30 minutes. Also, between takes we were all joking around and having fun. The model is also one of our instructors and friends and we all work together to make this content.

@MrBillblake123

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry.... My bad.

HOW ABOUT ONLINE STORAGE??? DOES THIS PROGRAM HAS THAT? LIKE LIGHTROOM HAS. I HAVE A 1TB ONLINE STORAGE AVAILABLE THAT I CHOSE TO PAY AN EXTRA 5 BUCKS A MONTH. AND I LIKE HOW I CAN SHOW MY CLIENTS BY SHARING THEM WITH A LINK. CAN I DO THAT WITH THIS??? THANKS!

Using it Since 2003 ? Thats before the program was called Capture one then. I remember the program back in the days as it was only used with the light phase digital back, before they called them selves Phase one

@forestchaput

5 жыл бұрын

Bo Egestroem Indeed, back in the old FireWire days. Used them a lot when I was working with Macy’s West in SF. Mostly used them on 4x5 cameras, the occasional shoot with a Hasselblad. That tech has come light years in the past 16 years!

Long time LR user here. I switched to C1 about a year ago and I'm not going back. Having said that, all these flow-related reasons are actually better in LR. Applying metadata and creating smart folders and exporting based on metadata can all be automated. I choose C1 because the color handling is just better curated on C1 and C1 is faster. Other than that, exporting, workflow, LR is better in my opinion. C1 layers are 1000x better than LR. In any case, I think this review is mostly due to familiarity of C1 and unfamiliarity of LR.

btw when working on a set with client, ad, agency other annoying people a really handy tool is capture pilot on an ipad - the client can directly rate and color tag images on set --- and the people have something to do and will less annoy you ;) one tipp for file naming and folder structure, as someone with a background in 3d working with teams, don't put the full date first. better: client - project+year or year - client - project - month normally you are searching and have a particular project/job in mind not oh something I did on 2017/12/05-nnnn

@forestchaput

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Martin! Great points for sure. Your naming convention certainly makes sense - it's a good one! I'd probably take it a step further and have a master client folder, and then sessions by year_month_day_descrip inside - so I can go see everything I've done for a specific client all at once and search within that (assuming the user does a lot for repeat clients). These days I'm finding I have whole hard drives dedicated to a single client so that keeps it easy, too. That's another reason I love C1P is the flexibility in organization. In some cases, there's the way I do it for myself - and then the way my client wants it delivered, so it's a dance between providing myself a system I can archive easily, and a convention I can deliver to them based on their requirements. And yes, Capture Pilot is a super handy tool. We'll do a vid on that one on its own in the future. I guess my Top 10 could just keep on going right??

@TasteofTaboo

5 жыл бұрын

Rocky Mountain School of Photography yes I have something similar in structure. when i was still using LR I did the same, made a catalog for every job in a folder structure. I got this from the cgi world where this is common sense and no one will ever want to use one big database with everything inside. c1p is much more professional centric for a advertising and fashion workflow, there are many nice features you already got in your video which make your life so much better. I saw you are working with canon, so you would still have usable colors in ACR, with nikon, fuji and other raws the colors, skin tones are nearly unusable in adobe, c1 is there like having a completely different camera. but this is also one thing you will notice in a fashion ad environment, so most reviewers don’t get this super huge difference. c1p colors and parameters work so much more natural and analog, acr is always drifting into digital disneyland when modifying heavy on the sliders

@unoengborg

5 жыл бұрын

@@forestchaput Another feature to take this one step further is to create session or catalog templates, that you can reuse when you create a new session for the same client.

I am getting more used to Capture One, but still use Lightroom V.6 most of the time. Capture one is very good, but if you compare any programmes there will be things you like and dislike.

No button or comparison "Before/After" .... ALL RAW software have this

@forestchaput

5 жыл бұрын

If you hold the Option/Alt key when toggling the Undo button on each adjustment panel, it shows you the before/after. I agree, one central button to see ALL of the before and after applied all at once will be a nice added feature in the future. For now, when I want to see that, I hit Command-R to Reset All - and then Command-Z to undo that move - I can do that over and over to see a master Before/After of everything and with the Option/Alt method, I can see a Before/After of each individual adjustment.

It is not better -- it has different functionality C1 v20 is a huge leap forward from v11 -- much more colour control. C1 is more reliable for tether shooting in LR -- agree 100% If I shoot with Hasselblad I would use FOCUS If I shoot with Phase One or Leaf MF - I would use C1 But for just about everything else DXO PL and or LR have been more robust and flexible (except for tethered). DXO PL's optical adjustments are the best by far. All the above work better with colour calibration and custom profiles and then colour measurements taken during each set-up -- using spyder checker or sim (so not just a white balance card)

Poor Model, she is not having fun.

@forestchaput

5 жыл бұрын

Actually she is!

@ceicli

5 жыл бұрын

Models usually wait. See any show with models, they wait a lot.

@bojangbg

5 жыл бұрын

and who cares... she's there to work, not to waste our time by having her own fun!

Capture 1 is a better version of Lightroom but it is twice as expensive and its engine is archaic and very very slow. You pay twice as much for capture one than you do for Lightroom AND Photoshop. Capture 1 is NOT a photo editor it is a raw processor. IT has some severe shortcomings that have been worked out in Lightroom years ago. Capture 1 is DEFINITELY not worth the cost. It is just a raw processor . BY the way I dont use Adobe either but I did in the past.

@forestchaput

4 жыл бұрын

I would argue that Lightroom is slower these days, but yes, C1Pro is definitely expensive!

It would have been really thoughtful for you to introduce your model, post her information, and thank her also. Smh

Not is better than LR.. and you know it

@forestchaput

5 жыл бұрын

For some things, yes. For other things, C1Pro is a clear winner.

@Paul_anderson_creative

5 жыл бұрын

As a long time LR user and C1 user. C1 has an optimized workflow that is configurable to individual users.