Brazilian Portuguese and European Portuguese are as different as American English and British English 😅

@rafaelrafaelrafael

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't get this common misconception that brazilian portuguese is a different language.

@FelipeMurta

Жыл бұрын

European Portuguese sounds like someone speaking portuguese with a british accent.

@user-ru7dy4ff4d

Жыл бұрын

They're mutually intelligible bc it's the same language.

@ckpalmeiras1318

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. It’s the perfect example. I’m a European who’s partner is Brazilian, so have learned Portuguese over the years. I also speak English. Brazilian Portuguese is much clearer, though of course there are regional accents but all are relatively clear with just a little regional flair. Portuguese from Portugal is like syrup. It’s so thick. There’s so much going on. It’s like the English you hear in England. With cities like Manchester or Liverpool or Birmingham having accents so strong and thick that even English speakers from the US or Canada or Australia finding it difficult to understand them.

@joaovitormatos8147

Жыл бұрын

When portuguese clips appears on Brazilian TV, they're usually subtitled. The comparison is not that accurate

For ones who don’t know in South America, Guyana and the Falkland Islands speak English, Brazil speaks Portuguese, suriname speaks Dutch, French Guiana speaks French and the rest of this Hispanic countries speak Spanish.

@Maximopaccioretti

11 ай бұрын

Spanish-speaking countries are said, Hispanics are only the Spaniards.

@jonybe5854

11 ай бұрын

Brazil will speak Mandarin not portuguese in the future

@icecreambeats101

11 ай бұрын

@@jonybe5854 huh?

@chavedigital2952

11 ай бұрын

For north americans, it's is easier to think that below everybody speaks spanish. That's why they even have videos explaining that. Actually, they think buenos aires is capital here in Brazil.

@icecreambeats101

11 ай бұрын

@@chavedigital2952 😂 oh wow. Sou Brasileiro. Carioca 😎. Opa!!!!!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷

An important thing that wasn't stated is that Portugal and Spain had already signed a treaty 15 years earlier (to the treaty of Tordesillas) that divided new lands discovered for the 2 countries, but it had to do with disputes in the Atlantic islands (particularly the Canaries) and Africa. It was the treaty of Alcáçovas and basing on it, Portugal claimed the islands discovered by Colombus as Portuguese, which eventually lead to the signing of the treaty of Tordesillas to solve the dispute.

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

Yes, thought the vid would be a bit too lopsided with all the different treaties

@Luzitanium

Жыл бұрын

that treaty was signed BEFORE brazil colonization, and its official discovery but then that treaty was made just for two kingdoms to split the globe, from the moment others started to get involved the treaty became obsolete

@desanipt

Жыл бұрын

@@Luzitanium These treaties were signed to solve disputes between the 2 countries. And the Tordesillas treaty kept being important, and referenced in talks about territorial disputes BETWEEN PORTUGAL AND SPAIN (in westerward expansions of Brazil for example) many centuries after its signing. I wouldn't say it became obsolete at all, because it kept serving its aim: to solve territorial disputes between Portugal and Spain in newfound lands. The treaty never claims all of those belong to just Portugal and Spain at all, that's totally an after-reading many did.

@Luzitanium

Жыл бұрын

@@desanipt the treaty claims that all the lands of the east of the line belongs to Spain and the West to Portugal. Portugal had a small settlement in Newfoundland in today Canada before that treaty, the reason it never developed the settlement because according to the treaty it would belong to Spain.

@desanipt

Жыл бұрын

@@Luzitanium Well, true. Meanwhile what truly made the treaty obsolete was the Iberian Union that allowed Brazil to expand beyond the Tordesillas line (because during the Iberian Union both sides were dependencies of the same king/person). And even so, the treaty kept being mentioned in disputes later on, regardless

To be fair, the treaty of Tordesillas wasn't meant to divide the whole world between Spain and Portugal. It was just an agreement on where each country would conduct its expeditions and lay claims.

@sumimaind

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he got his "facts" wrong! That's why we should take what these KZreadrs say with a grain of salt...

@hisforhistory

Жыл бұрын

That was the comment I was looking for.

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

True, but in practice thats what the idea stipulated. To have the audacity to just divide the world in two spheres of influence really boggles me to this day.

@ppietrap3876

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePresentPast_ Why!? Portugal and Castille had for centuries had treaties on how they could expand their territories to avoid conflicts. In fact before Tordesillas there had already been another treaty between them that also defined borders in their expansion in the Atlantic - one of the reasons why Portugal was infuriated by what the Pope did. These agreements didn’t give Portugal or Spain possession of all territories, it was just meant, once again, to avoid conflicts.

@srtatropicalia

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, maybe it wasn't literal, but this wording on the treaty still holds symbolic power!

The dutch did not displace the portuguese easily. The Netherlands was as small and resources poor country as Portugal. It just happened that the Iberian Union weakened the Portuguese navy and put the dutch in direct war against the Portuguese. The Netherlands invaded Brazil, Angola and Macau. And they were all expel from there.

@gracasilver8574

Жыл бұрын

Nos ruinosos 60 anos de União Ibérica , os Espanhóis apoderaram-se da poderosa Marinha Portuguesa ... A Holanda que fazia parte da Espanha , acabou ficando com parte dessa Marinha ...

@roddeazevedo

Жыл бұрын

The reconquest of Angola was carried out by Portuguese settlers in Brazil. Portugal held Macau thanks to a large contingent of African soldiers. Focusing on the resources of Continental Portugal is a red herring.

@Luzitanium

Жыл бұрын

they were expelled by the natives and local portuguese, because of the way dutch treated the natives.

@roddeazevedo

Жыл бұрын

@@Luzitanium African-blooded Brazilians also helped, which is why some contemporary Brazilians call it "vitória das três raças". kzread.info/dash/bejne/hGRkrsGNgaqzp84.html

@Luzitanium

Жыл бұрын

@@roddeazevedo i dont think the transatlantic slave trade wasnt a big thing at the time, it became a thing after when Portugal recovered its own place in the world. Arent you confusing with the expel of the French? they were kicked by the locals too

I'm Brazilian. We learn about the Tordesilhas Meridian EARLY in school (or as you say, Tordesillas). The information is given a little bit at a time. This is how it goes: 3rd Grade: The discovery of Brazil in 1500 was a fluke because Cabral's Caravela was diverted from the coast of Africa to the coast of Brazil due to lack of wind. 4th Grade: You learn that 8 years before Brazil was discovered, the Pope devided South America between Spain and Portugal with the Tordesilhas Meridian, giving Brazil to the Portuguese. 5h Grade: You learn that when the Portuguese stepped in Brazil for the "first time", there were already Portuguese people living in Brazil among the natives 6th Grade: You learn that on Cabral's fleet there was a guy (Pero Vaz de Caminha) whose only job was to document what Cabral and his men saw in Brazil and map the land for the king of Portugal. Caminha left Brazil on a ship back to Europe/Portugal, Cabral sailed to India (Calicut ), a trip full of misfortunes. This document, "THE LETTER FROM PERO VAZ DE CAMINHA TO DON MANUEL, KING OF PORTUGAL" is in the Archives in Lisbon and its considered to be the Birth Certificate of Brazil. PS: Nobody question that first you learn Brazil was found "by chance" and later you find out Portugal already knew of Brazil's existance.

@thiagosda

11 ай бұрын

Actually there's no mentions about Portuguese people living in Brazil before Cabral's fleet. I'd like to see wich sources you're using.

@15faell.s

5 күн бұрын

They lived in the northeast, it was not an effective and established colony, just a trading point. That's why it's difficult to find this information, even AI denies this, but insisting you can find it​@@thiagosda

@J0aoppdro0

5 күн бұрын

Só fui aprender isso tudo no 6° ano

Brazil is a great country

@gondar6181

Жыл бұрын

No it’s not.

@nahmend6987

Жыл бұрын

It will be better I believe☺️

@feartheghostinme675

Жыл бұрын

@@gondar6181 where do you live Ukraine?!?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@gondar6181

Жыл бұрын

@@feartheghostinme675 Nope. Even then at least Ukraine has history. Brazil doesn’t lol, Brazilians don’t even care about their own wildlife.

@feartheghostinme675

Жыл бұрын

@@gondar6181 oh so you must be from the greatest country on earth......America 🤣🤣🇺🇸 (so arrogant)

0:00 Well, I'd say the real question is why Portuguese speaking America managed to keep as a single country while the Spanish speaking one got divided so much. There is almost the same number of Spanish speakers as there are of Portuguese speakers in South America (about 200 millions each)

@lietsiyon3464

Жыл бұрын

It's thanks to the house of Braganza establishing the Empire of Brazil and Dom Pedro 1 and 2 developing the its institutions, at least at first.

@cosmiccentaur

Жыл бұрын

I think there's a lot of reasons, I don't know about Portuguese colonies but the Spanish colonies were divided from pretty much the start in virreinatos (local governments loyal to the crown) so they all developed slightly different cultures from each other and they didn't all go independent at the same time. Plus the fact that the Spanish intermingled with the local natives maybe helped make the differences more pronounced between virreinatos.

@Tsuruchi_420

Жыл бұрын

@@cosmiccentaur yeah, in simple terms, it's harder to keep something united if it was never united

@matheusrolim247

Жыл бұрын

@@lietsiyon3464 And also because of José Bonifácio de Andrada e Silva. One of ours "founding fathers".

@danidejaneiro8378

Жыл бұрын

There are a few videos about that out there.

Attention to details, please. The Dutch didn't simply displaced the Portuguese, you have to consider the fact that Portugal and Spain were united in one crown, a Castillian one, which made Spanish enemies also Portuguese enemies, including England. Not also that, Philip's costlier wars lead to increased taxation also over the Portuguese Empires and the use of it's once Incredible navy on Spanish wars, leaving the Portuguese colonies military and financial neglected, an easy target for the enemies of the Spanish crown.

Reading the comments, some seem to think that the Portuguese 🇵🇹 are hispanic because the Iberian Peninsula used to be called Hispania by the Romans. Big mistake. You can call the Portuguese Iberians, no problem, because Iberia refers to the entire peninsula. Hispania, however, only refers to what is now Spain 🇪🇸. Portugal is Lusitania, and has been for thousands of years.

@thealexprime

Жыл бұрын

Lusitanos mas falando uma língua vinda da Galiza.....😢

@Sergiovision

Жыл бұрын

@@thealexprime A lingua veio de Roma.

@pedritopedrito_

Жыл бұрын

Pero Lusitania era simplemente una zona de Hispania. Todo era Hispania incluyendo a España y Portugal. Realmente en la época no se hablaba de España, era más la unión de reinos de la península. El reino de Castilla, el reino de Aragón y el reino de Portugal. Cuando Castilla y Aragón se unieron se creó "España" pero no tiene sentido ya que es un nombre que deriva directamente de Hispania romana.

@shaohtsai

Жыл бұрын

@@pedritopedrito_Estás mezclando tantos períodos de tiempo diferentes, es una locura! La Lusitania fue parte de la provincia romana de Hispania, pero más tarde se convirtió en una provincia independiente durante 436 años. Por un tiempo, el área fue parte de la provincia bizantina de Spania. Sin embargo, el Reino de Portugal precede a la unión de las coronas de Castilla y Aragón. Más tarde hubo la Unión Ibérica, pero toda esta es una historia política y real complicada. En el sentido moderno, no se puede considerar a los portugueses hispánicos porque nadie realmente tiene en cuenta toda la compleja historia de la región al decir esto.

@icecreambeats101

11 ай бұрын

We are not Hispanic. Hispanic means Spanish speaking countries and Latino means someone from Latin America that speaks French, Portuguese and Spanish which includes Brazil, Haiti and other French speaking countries.

Brazil: is the flag featured on many sites when switching the language to Portuguese Portugal: *And they ask you how you are, and you just have to say you’re fine when you’re not really fine, but you just can’t get into it, because they would never understand.*

@Hamerti388

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@anibalvalente3017

Жыл бұрын

''BRASIL'' not Brazil.

@Eduthedude

Жыл бұрын

@@anibalvalente3017 it’s Brazil in English and Brasil in Portuguese.

@ender8759

Жыл бұрын

True 😂😂😂

@fjkfkfkf

Жыл бұрын

not really, maybe because you're visiting brasilian websites

8:49 little nitpick: Spanish hasn't been widely spoken in the Philippines since the end of WW2. There is however a Spanish creole called Chavacano and Filipino has 4,000 words similar to Spanish or Spanish in origin.

@user-uj4sc7tg9v

Жыл бұрын

How did English so thoroughly replace the 400 year Spanish language in 50 years in the Philippines occupation? As far as I know now, plenty of Filipinos even speak English as their first or dominant language and cannot use filipino or other indigenous languages without switching to English

@user-uj4sc7tg9v

Жыл бұрын

@Kwanggolsaur Very informative and interesting, thank you! That certainly explains what otherwise seemed like an illogical idea by the Spanish, and I guess it reflects equally in Indonesia where I know the Dutch barred the natives from learning it so they couldn't do more than be slave labour

@goda7137

Жыл бұрын

@@user-uj4sc7tg9v because Spaniard doesn't teach Filipinos 'Spanish' except for people that married to Spaniard.

@RodriTaku

Жыл бұрын

@@user-uj4sc7tg9v en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language_in_the_Philippines

@jpthehistorian

Жыл бұрын

The American system of public education end up erasing Spanish speaking in the general public. Interestingly, Puerto Rico remained American far longer yet still speak Spanish.

You could make a video about Portugal royal family fleeing to Brazil. The type of thing only possible with countries like Brazil and Portugal.

@tnightwolf

Жыл бұрын

Well i dunno how Brazilians feel, but, as a Portuguese, at the end of the day, i feel that most Portuguese people like to: "Ahhhhh, it's time to relax And you know what that means A glass of wine, your favourite easy chair And of course this compact disc playing on your home stereo So go on, indulge yourself That's right, kick off your shoes, put your feet up Lean back and just enjoy the melodies After all, music soothes even the savage beasts" We do like to relax, drink, party and just have a good time!😁 Btw, a well done Caipirinha is one of those "Nectar of the Gods" drinks to me! 😆

@marcoperfam01

Жыл бұрын

O que você quis dizer com isto ???

I am a simple brazilian, I see Brazil and I press like.

Your Johnny Harris video brought me here, but this content is amazing! I'm surprised you don't already have a bunch more subscribers!

Falou do Brasil cheguei, como de praxe come to Brasil irmão

It is important to bear in mind that Portugal was the most powerful nation in the world at the time. The current size of the Brazilian territory is due to the efforts of Pedro I (Peter the I). The Dutch only started to gain Portuguese overseas territory after the Spanish crown annexed Portugal due to a lack of heir for a few decades, and during which time Spain was at war with the Netherlands. And finally the Brazilian Portuguese accent is mainly due to the fact of receiving the Portuguese King and Court at the time when Napoleon was invading Portugal. Therefore, the Portuguese upper class elite settled in Brazil and enabled the language to flourish even further...

@tiagocarioca

11 ай бұрын

Portugal was never the most powerful country in the world. They were the most advanced navigators for a while, but not most powerful than China or Otoman Empire, for example.

@HomemPrendado888

11 ай бұрын

@@tiagocarioca Under Manuel I (known as Manuel the Fortunate), Portugal became a great naval power. The Portuguese conquered Goa in India in 1510, Malacca (now Melaka) in Malaysia in 1511, the Moluccas in present-day Indonesia by 1514, and the Hormuz Islands in the Persian Gulf in 1515. During the 15th and 16th centuries, Portugal became a leading European power that ranked with England, France and Spain in terms of economic, political and cultural influence. At the beginning of the 16th century, thanks to their superior navigational skills, Portugal was able to create the largest commercial and maritime empire the world had ever seen. It extended from South America to the Far East, and along the coastlines of Africa and India. The São João Baptista (English: Saint John the Baptist), nicknamed Botafogo ("Spitfire"), was a Portuguese galleon built in the 16th century, around 1530, considered the biggest and most powerful warship in the world by Portuguese, Castillian, and Italian observers of the time. The Portuguese Navy, tracing back to the 12th century, is the oldest continuously serving navy in the world. The first known battle of the Portuguese Navy was in 1180, during the reign of Portugal's first king, Afonso I of Portugal. The battle occurred when a Portuguese fleet commanded by the knight Fuas Roupinho defeated a Muslim fleet near Cape Espichel. He also made two incursions at Ceuta, in 1181 and 1182, and died during the last of these attempts to conquer Ceuta. During the 13th century, in the Portuguese Reconquista, the Portuguese Navy helped in the conquest of several littoral moorish towns, like Alcácer do Sal, Silves and Faro. It was also used in the battles against Castile through incursions in Galicia and Andalucia, and also in joint actions with other Christian fleets against the Muslims. In 1317 King Denis of Portugal decided to give, for the first time, a permanent organization to the Royal Navy, contracting Manuel Pessanha of Genoa to be the first Admiral of the Kingdom. In 1321 the navy successfully attacked Muslim ports in North Africa. Maritime insurance began in 1323 in Portugal, and between 1336 and 1341 the first attempts at maritime expansion are made, with the expedition to Canary Islands, sponsored by King Afonso IV. At the end of the 14th century, more Portuguese discoveries were made, with the Navy playing a main role in the exploration of the oceans and the defense of the Portuguese Empire. Portugal became the first oceanic navy power. Portugal controlled the African coast and Indian sea so much so that Spaniards were afraid of being encountered sailing on Portuguese waters. And the expansion of the Ottoman empire into Europe and Americas was blocked by the Portuguese navy. Portugal was never the most powerful nation in the world? Portugal, though a comparatively small nation in terms of land area, took an early lead in terms of naval exploration and became the first real global superpower.

@Ea_rufuusi

11 ай бұрын

No, the Brazilian accent is due to the mixture of cultures and peoples from different parts of the world, and in our Portuguese, the indigenous and African influence is one of the main factors of the difference between the Variants of the Portuguese language in addition to the sound and grammar being very different.

@borix3219

11 ай бұрын

​@@Ea_rufuusi Exatamente mas não dá pra esquecer que realmente o português brasileiro é mais próximo do português antigo pela corte portuguêsa ter vindo pra cá enquanto os franceses dominaram Portugal, junto com a influência indígena, africana, e menor (dependendo da região) de imigrantes europeus e japoneses se tornou muito diferente mas ainda muito longe de ser um dialeto ou língua separada

@Ea_rufuusi

11 ай бұрын

@@borix3219 De fato, porém a corte se estabeleceu no Rio, em sua maioria, e ajudaram a definir o sotaque Carioca/Fluminense, tanto que a sonoridade do Português brasileiro Fluminense é relativamente parecido com o sotaque de lisboa. Claro, o Brasil é imenso e em um único estado podem haver inúmeras variações, veja São Paulo por exemplo. E eu não quis dar a entender que o português Brasileiro deve-se ser separado dos demais dialetos, ou seja ser considerado uma outra língua, realmente se deixei isso a entender, desculpe-me, apenas quis ressaltar um detalhe que eu como brasileiro, achei um pouco errôneo, mesmo que não inteiramente.

Hey! Something you didn't mentioned was the "Iberian Union (1580-1620)". During that time, the two kingdons were unified because of the succesion line. It was important for Brazilian expansion since the Treat of Tordesillas did not make sense anymore. So Portuguse explorers got to the interior part of the colony. But after the new separation between Portugal and Spain, all the mess got back together.

@ruicasasnovas

Жыл бұрын

1580-1640

@joaoantunes2917

Жыл бұрын

In fact they were never unified, they were never one kingdom. That's why it was called the Iberian union, they were separate kingdoms ruled by the same king.

@MarcioNSantos

Жыл бұрын

@@joaoantunes2917 Makes sense. But in a way it was an excuse used in Brazil.

Portuguese were 1.5 mln at that time but they had the most ships. It is called specialization.

i always thought that is fascinating how a tiny contry like Portugal managed to basically "control the seas" for some time. Even though their claims of land was tiny ( "basically being barnacles attached on shores") when you see the Numbers like in the Battle of diu 1509 is even more impressing.

@justinarzola4584

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention their biggest colonial achievement Brazil is larger than them.

@donquique1

Жыл бұрын

England says are we chopped liver?

@tcbbctagain572

Жыл бұрын

@@justinarzola4584 the same things for the UK and the US

@eduardogames5240

Жыл бұрын

@@tcbbctagain572 the US was much smaller back then when the British colonized them

@marcioborgesreis9066

11 ай бұрын

Rome was more tiny then Portugal .

To say that Brazilian Portuguese and European Portuguese are different is the same as saying that American English and European English are different... Duh!

@danidejaneiro8378

Жыл бұрын

Who hurt you?

@ClaudioPereira222

Жыл бұрын

​@@danidejaneiro8378 na verdade é irrelevante, aliás é até bom pois assim ganharmos nossa própria língua

@joaoantunes2917

Жыл бұрын

@@ClaudioPereira222 Vocês já têm, chama-se tupi guarini, Português é de Portugal.

@ab-fi6ks

Жыл бұрын

​@@joaoantunes2917 Ninguém mandou trazer para cá. E até fico feliz, pois gosto muito dela.

@jeffersoncruz2898

11 ай бұрын

​@@joaoantunes2917É DO BRASIL TAMBÉM!

The Portuguese America went further west not exactly because of this treaty. Actually, for a specific time, Portugal and Spain got under the same crown, which sort of turned the treaties useless, and led colonizers go deep into the interior legally (because they already did it illegally). After the Iberian Union breached, they had to come up with new treaties (and many disputes), until eventually the Treaty of Madrid set up the Brazilian borders and gave the Phillipines to the Spanish. After independence Brazil gained a bit more but essentially, most of the territory was set by the Treaty of Madrid. Tordesillas is 1495, Madrid is only in 1750.

Striving for this level of quality content... the looks help too :)

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

Please don't objectify me

Here after the Johnny Harris video, all your content is AWESOME! So glad to have found your channel! :)

I love when I tell someone in VRchat that I"m Brazilian, they start speaking Spanish words thinking I'm going to talk back in Spanish XDD

Regarding the "discovery" of Brazil, there was an earlier expedition, led by Duarte Pacheco Pereira in 1498. It was already a Portuguese reaction to the news brought by Colombus, and it explored the northern coast of Brazil. It was kept secret by the Portuguese Crown as not to give away important information to the Spanish. The expedition in 1500 was targeted at the actual India, but they had orders to stop by here and ofically take possesion of the land.

The reason the Philippines went to Spain is because they weren't mentioned in the Treaty of Zaragoza which created this other line. Implicitly, Spain relinquished any claim to them because the islands now fell in Portugal's sphere, but nevertheless in 1542 (13 years later) King Charles V said "F it, they're ours" and wanted to colonize them anyway because they assumed the Portuguese wouldn't protest since the islands didn't have spices. However he failed at his attempt, and King Philip II succeeded in doing so in 1565, establishing a trade post at Manila. As they expected, there was no opposition

Hi there, congratulations on you video, but when you ask "Why Brazilians Don't Speak Spanish" I don't think the best answer is the Treaty of Tordesillas. You see, the treaty explains why Portuguese had a piece of America, but not the spread of their language. During the first century of Portuguese invasion, only a handful of people actually spoke Portuguese. They were mostly confined to big cities, like Salvador and Olinda. Priests and invaders used a version of native language, called Língua Geral (General Speak) with some Portuguese words, but definetely diverse. From 1580 to 1640 Portugal and Spain were united (Iberian Union) so Tordesillas' Line went, for all practical uses, defunct, in such a way that when Portugal reclaimed its independence, the agreement with Spain stated that: wherever there's Portuguese settlements (not language), it would be recognized as Portuguese Colony. Invaders and explorers went from the Prata River to the Amazon searching for indigenous slaves and precious metals and stones, but they didn't really speak Portuguese, but the Língua Geral, which was taught by the priests. So, up to the XVIII most of Brazilians used the Língua Geral, when Marquis of Pombal (Portuguese statesman who effectively ruled the Portuguese Empire from 1750 to 1777) expelled the Jesuit priests, forbade the teaching of Língua Geral and forced the teaching of Portuguese. Also, the Portuguese America got thousands of enslaved africans, and they didn't speak one single language, so understant each other and their masters they learned Portuguese. If you check Brazil's oldest extant Portuguese dialects they are located at the coast and heavily influenced by African words.

@gabi4723

Жыл бұрын

Melhor que o vídeo kkkk é interessante ver estrangeiros tentando entender mas se for pra fazer um vídeo e ensinar outras pessoas....ele deveria ter estudado mais.

@atlas567

Жыл бұрын

​@@gabi4723 Melhor do que é ensinado nas salas de aulas do Brasil

@oole0111

Жыл бұрын

It's colonialists or colonizors, not invaders, thank you.

@maverick767

Жыл бұрын

Africanas e indígenas. O próprio sotaque dos paulistas do "R" é devido aos indígenas.

Good job !!

This channel refreshes the History i studied which seemed questionable,but you don’t say it & here I am relearning History in a more factual & data-proven research from this channel. Keeping Teaching, I will keep watching & learning. Respects.

Cantino!! ❤‍🔥Looking so good my man.

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

It is an awesome piece of art!

@oldwine2401

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePresentPast_ Te map of cantino was design by a portuguese , this map was stolen in lisbon by an italian spy and took the map to italy

This video is so historically wrong!!! First off Spain wasn’t a country… there was no Spain! It was Castile… Second there was the Treaty of Alcáçovas… it divided the world before Tordesilhas and the areas that Columbus discovered were in Portuguese area of influence. That is why there was a controversy… and Portugal threatened war and a new treaty was signed.

@gracasilver8574

Жыл бұрын

Verdade !...

I’m Paraguayan, and while this was all just stuff I’ve been learning in history class since primary school, you nailed it so much with the graphics and the way you explain things that I just kept watching till the end with my mouth half open as if this was all new to me.

Brazilians speak Portuguese in the same way North Americans speak English. Brazil was a former portuguese colony. That's it.

@Dani-kv1xx

Жыл бұрын

PORTUGAL EX COLÔNIA DOS MOUR0SS E ROMAN0SS!!!!!

The more I learn Portuguese the more pride I have in the Philippines because even after 300 or so years of Spanish colonization the people have preserved the local language, actually a lot of the local languages, which resulted in me a 4th generation Chinese immigrant growing up speaking English, Filipino, Cebuano (more Spanish words than standard Filipino, and giving me a huge advantage when learning Eu Portuguese) Hokkien, and Mandarin.

@FOLIPE

Жыл бұрын

The Philippines is an asian country, I think that explains a lot of it. They were already affected thus imune as much as europeans to the old world diseases.

@pdrxyzz7320

Жыл бұрын

Você consegue entender português?

@mendamend

Жыл бұрын

Before the Spanish arrival there was no "Philippines" that existed. They were remote islands that spoke thousands of different languages. The Philippines did not become Spanish speaking because the Spanish catholic priests forbade the teaching of Spanish to the natives, and used local languages instead in their liturgies. Only the elite spoke Spanish in colonial times. This is different from the situation in latin america. Tagalog is a pidgin language with tens of thousands of Spanish loanwords and cognates. Why by proud that Spanish did not take hold on the islands? I think thats quite a shame.

@Louis-kw6yk

Жыл бұрын

colonization of the Philippines was way different from the colonization that happened in Latin America, the majority of people in south America has little to no roots to indigenous culture (directly) only 1% of people consider themselves indigenous in brazil for example

@elvenacoesmarica

Жыл бұрын

So you are proud but guess what? You speak English what makes the Philippines a colony of the United states. You are still a colony. So, don’t be so proud

Cant wait for the Ehtiopia story!

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

Soon!

@vishred

Жыл бұрын

Same, excited for it!

This video was originally released early June 2022. There are many themes and ideas and even tone that reminded me of Johnny Harris's video from 2 weeks ago: How Europe Stole the World, released: early Aug 2022 Did Chris Columbus actually say the word "Boys" when speaking to his men?

@fxshell

Жыл бұрын

Yes so much! Was thinking exactly the same & am surprised no one mentions this?!

amando esse canal!

@laudemar-A.B.6386

11 ай бұрын

Esse cara é holandês?

@vhtsouza

11 ай бұрын

@@laudemar-A.B.6386 sinhe

Spanish and Portuguese are sister languages. Portugal and Spain share a common identity. Portugal was born from the kingdom of León. The Iberians are a related people even though they differed somewhat. The languages are mutually inteligible. They are both Hispanic people because both are heirs of Roman Hispania. Their royal families always mixed because they were one people. Both Catholic nations and heirs of Goths and Celts. People don't understand the commonality.

@pliniojr95

Жыл бұрын

Both languages can be similar, but not the same. The portuguese language and Brazil are world apart from the rest of Latin America.

@marceloorellana5726

Жыл бұрын

@@pliniojr95 They are not worlds apart because they share a common history in Hispania for thousands of years. They were born sister languages. Same has the Russian languages that evolved but are mutually inteligible. Spanish and Portuguese are sister languages. Polish and Spanish are worlds apart. You need to research linguistics and history before making ignorant comments. Portuguese and Spanish share over 85% of lexical similarities. Worlds apart just sounds ridiculous.

@pliniojr95

Жыл бұрын

@@marceloorellana5726 So what? Sharing a common history doesn't mean we are the same. Spanish, portuguese, italian, romanian and french are also sister languages, yet each one evolved on its own. We are world apart from you because we have our own identity, we dont want to be part of your club. Brazil is an island in South America, we have closer ties to Portugal that is on the other side of the ocean, than to any south american country.

@marceloorellana5726

Жыл бұрын

@@pliniojr95 Brazil has the same as other Latin American countries and it speaks a language easily understood by their Spanish speaking neighbors. You know absolutely nothing about Iberian history. It isn't like Spanish and Italian it's more like Italian and Corsican. You should read and understand. Brazil isn't an island. It's a fellow neighbor with similar music, food and history. It would be an island if it was surrounded by Germanic Anglo countries which it is not. It's surrounded by it's cousins. And Portugal and Spain are more similar than even Italy and Sicily.

@FOLIPE

Жыл бұрын

@@marceloorellana5726 It is definitely not that similar. Brazil is quite different and set appart from its neighbors by culture, history and geography. People who don't know Brazil or Latin America might sometimes think it's just another hispanic country buy that is not at all true

great vid

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

Ainda bem que falamos português 🇧🇷😎💪 viva a lusofonia.

@juvenilmoreirasilva5445

11 ай бұрын

O idioma mais lindo do mundo, eu acho

@eduardoacbpgamer5998

11 ай бұрын

Glória ao idioma português

@laudemar-A.B.6386

11 ай бұрын

@@eduardoacbpgamer5998 Eu acho espanhol muito frio 🤡😆

@kaizennojujutsu6134

11 ай бұрын

​@@laudemar-A.B.6386🔥

@liebertsa9519

9 ай бұрын

​​​@@juvenilmoreirasilva5445Brasileiros sequer sabem falar português corretamente "nois vai" "tu gosta" "tu diz" Não sabem sequer conjugar verbos na segunda pessoa. Aí vem com esse papo de amor à língua kkkkkkk

So nice you want to see it twice!

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

💯

Good Job ! Greetings from Brazil,

This is such an awesome channel! Entertaining and informative, also very slickly produced. You've earned a new subscriber. I can't wait to see what you make next!

Summing up: we were colonized by Portugal, not Spain.

I hope you do the Christian-Ethiopian history. Fascinating how people from Ethiopia were proven to be connected to a lost tribe of Israel!!! That connection is so ancient but we know so little

@deehlgrm9379

8 ай бұрын

Thats pseudohistory 😂.

found a new channel to be addicted to

This agreement reminded me of Sykes-Picot Agreement where British and French divided the lands

But in the Todesillas Treaty, Portugal was not allowed to cross the established line (around 20% of South America), what happened is that a group of Brazilian explorers called “Bandeirantes” went through the jungle to west of our limits (which supposed to be Spanish territory) and they opened roads and declared those extra kilometres part of the Empire of Portugal Brazil and Algarves (The name of Brazil centuries ago as we were a Monarchy and also considered a extension of Portugal).

@frapiment6239

11 ай бұрын

At the time of the expansion of Brazil, Brazilians were the ones who commercialized "pau brasil", that is, it was the profession. The "Bandeirantes", like all those born in the Portuguese America, which at the time was not even called Brazil, had Portuguese nationality.

I love a video with some good maps.

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!! (almost) congrats on the 100k 🤩

@GeographyGeek

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePresentPast_ I appreciate it!

¡Gracias!

Isso é correto, por isso o Brasil fala português, good work man.

@laudemar-A.B.6386

11 ай бұрын

Hahahahah tão claro como a água, acho que o mundo inteiro deveria saber disso 🤷🤭

Crowns, not countries. Therefore, kingdoms. And they where united for a while. Recommend the reading of, at least the 25 first verses of The Lusitans, by Luís Vaz de Camões.

Professor! Gostaria que o sr falasse como foi a expansão do território dos EUA??? 🤔

What we cannot forget is that the Bandeirantes (expeditions to apprehend Indians and search for drugs in the sertao) went up and forcibly pushed the limits of Brazil and this contributed greatly to the expansion of Brazilian lands to the west. Later, the arrival of the imperial family in Brazil gave an incentive to the growth of the use of Portuguese as a language in Brazil.

I always find interesting how the narrative of the Reconquista of the Iberian Peninsula is presented. It is an anachronism to mention Spain before the 15th century. There were a bunch of Christian kingdoms in the Iberian Peninsula which had intricate relations with each other and progressively conquered territory from the Moors. Portugal was there, but what we currently call Spain was divided in multiple smaller kingdoms (Leon, Castile, Navarra, Aragon, ...) that gradually merged together to form Spain as we know it. While the kingdoms from the East of the peninsula merged together progressively to form Spain, Portugal managed to keep its independence and avoid unification - until the Iberian Union which lasted from 1580 to 1640 - and has managed to keep its independence ever since. This allowed a distinct national identity to emerge in Portugal, despite the closeness with Spain and all history shared together. This is reflected in the culture and obviously the language of both countries, which spread through colonialism to Latin America and other parts of the World.

@gracasilver8574

Жыл бұрын

Portugal é independente desde 1143 !...

I'm Brazilian and its cool know that you know our history (:

as a brazilian, i'd like to thank you. a lot of people randomly start to speak spanish when i say i'm from brazil and i don't understand a thing😭😭

Will you make a video about the Ethiopian negus?

@JOCHEM BTW, Portuguese America is just one country thanks to Napoleon's wars, since when he invaded Spain and captured the king of Spain, all the Spanish colonies in America got fragile, and fed uprisings created new countries (There were 3 big areas, plata, Peru, and Mexico). It forced the king of Portugal and the royal family to move the capital of the Portuguese Empire to Rio from where he controlled all the independency movements keeping Portuguese america united in just one country... while in the Spanish part, different revolutions were created around 15 countries.

Hello. Just wanted to point out that while Spanish was indeed spoken in the Philippines, it was never spoken in the same degree that Portuguese was spoken in Brazil. Spanish in the Philippines was mainly spoken by the elite, and local languages in the Philippines was never threatened or replaced by Spanish unlike Latin America.

@kannoramirez2288

Жыл бұрын

That was the case in Spanish America as well. The thing is the mostly White Spanish elite decided, after Independence, that Spanish was to be the National language so it assimilated most of the native ones.

@ha22el5

Жыл бұрын

In Brazil too: until the late 1700s the most widespoken language in brazil were different variations of Tupi-Guarani (a native language with various dialects), only after the admnistrative reforms of Marquês de Pombal in the 1770s, and the independence in 1822, that the portuguese language in fact became the sole language.

@biscoito1r

Жыл бұрын

That's how things are in East-Timor right now. Only a handful of people speak Portuguese. They should get their act together.

@gondar6181

Жыл бұрын

The Philippines is lucky man, Latin America is as stuck in the colonial mindset as the U.S. yet they feel like they’re “so cultured”.

@marcellocolona4980

Жыл бұрын

Colonialism got a bad rap. Countries that were colonised in the past are doing much better economically and socially today than those that were never colonised.

Great video. Very well done. I think it is important to understand that such treaties were not binding and often not followed to the letter (similar to today). Moreover, the concept of border did not exist then as we know it today.

I like how he called Chile "chill"

Hey! How can we get in touch about sponsoring some future videos? Didn’t see a direct way to message you. But nice work and content. -Brian

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

Hi Brian, nice to hear from you! I sent you a DM on Twitter

@brianmcmanus4865

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePresentPast_ I just checked all my twitters and did not see it, could post link to a instagram or something i can connect with you on?

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

@@brianmcmanus4865 you can find me on the_presentpast at IG

Uh. Why Brazilians don't speak Spanish? People seriously don't know the answer to this question and need a video to explain it to them?

isto é mesmo uma pergunta que pessoas fazem? estou genuinamente curioso.

bro, im from rondonia, from northwest brazil, i dont speak speak spanish. I mean, i do, but not because my neighborhood country speaks casteliano hehe

Why in the Andes states/ South América don't still speak QUÉCHUA as the first language? And they learn Zpanish????😢

8:59 It is not academic to cite a secondary source if 1) the information you discuss is originally found in a primary source, and 2) that secondary source doesn’t “spice up” that information in a way, add an interesting take on it, look at it from a different perspective, or connect it with other information. You should look up and cite the original legal documents whose arguments are based on the Treaty of Tordesillas, not a secondary source.

Good question👍. Why the USA not speak French or Spanish or Dutch ?

The Brazilian Portuguese is somehow different from European Portuguese... just as Latin America Spanish(es) is(are) somehow different from European Spanish...

Porque fue una colonia de Portugal y hederó su idioma!

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

Curto nem sempre é melhor ;)

8:54 Argentinean here and if this is remotely true it's the first time I'm hearing it. There are several points and documents to the country's claim to the Malvinas/Falklands and islands in the south atlantic but certainly the treaty of Tordesillas seems a bit of a stretch, would be really curious to see any real source about that.

@ignacioheredia9599

Жыл бұрын

Lo propio es remitirse al mismo tratado de Tordesillas. ¿Has entrado en el portal de PARES/Archivo de Indias?

@Luzitanium

Жыл бұрын

well the treaty would also stated the entire Africa to Portugal, so after the moment other nations became involved the treaty turned obsolete

I didn't know Brazil was an island 😅😢

I understand that people that don't know history claim that Colon was Italian. But I can't accept it from a historian. While his origin is not yet clear, it is clear that the Genovese theory was fabricated and is incorrect.

For real, the most complicated to understand the brazilian portuguese is the regional/local accent. People say phrases with different entonation and words. Its complicated to understand, even for brazilian. This language is in much constant change. Like, people in periphery say one portuguese, different of the portuguese of the big city. Its is used to know where you live, sometimes is used to discriminate by police, people and criminal faction is in your district... Its complicated and interesting to know about this.

@sarapauheh

11 ай бұрын

Sim, eu sinto que com o avanço da internet isso tem mudado um pouco. Eu particularmente já não falo com o sotaque de minha região, já que sou exposto a criadores de todo país.

Hi Jochem, first off, great video! I also wanted to offer some food for thought, if I may. Like many others, I discovered your channel after the JH fake history video and subscribed. So a big Thank you is in order for you, Imperial and Faultline! However, I just finished watching this video and I'm left with a somewhat bitter taste after the condescending tone underneath the brightly coloured colonisation cut-out. Why do we mock and deride as if we are entitled to do so? As if the world today has solved all its problems, and there's nothing left but to hate and condemn the past? Why are we on a high horse now pointing the finger at the past instead of using it to learn and make today better? Have we eradicated hunger and homelessness? Does everyone on this planet have access to education and a decent living? Is there no more slavery? Is there no more corruption? I'm concerned about our current obsession with colonialism, but only because it doesn't seem to lead to anything constructive in our society and our way of thinking about one another. It seems to me that this topic is all about condemnation and hatred. We know from Facebook's algorithm documentation that nothing engages people like anger does. So I'm concerned when I see this attitude cultivated by people like JH, who in their desire to keep their followers and grow them, end up making videos to fit the trend, to hook people, although certain facts don't even fit with history itself. Where is the moderate tone about this subject? Also, isn't the world of today a consequence of colonisation? Isn't colonisation a proto-form of today's globalisation? This is not to say that all the atrocities committed are to be glossed over. Quite the contrary. This is where we have an opportunity to learn and do better. But doing it with hatred is not the way. I also found it ironic that after pointing the finger at JH for making his mini-docs "fun", you are starting to do the same thing by choosing to have a "fun" cut-out when discussing colonialism. I realize it's an uncomfortable subject, and I get the idea behind the jingly cut-out, but in the long-term, does the judgemental attitude and mockery towards our past mistakes do us any service? If we really want to learn and be constructive, maybe we should start accepting that not everything in life is supposed to be fun, not even in KZread videos. It's ok to be sombre about something as sombre as the fatalities and injustice associated with colonialism. Thank you and look forward to your next videos!

Funny, when i was a kid i´ve learned in school that Portugal had accidentally discovered Brasil before the treaty of Tordesilhas , and that was the reason why portuguese pushed the line further west! Only in 1500 Portugal claimed the discovery of Brasil, again in a "mistake" of Cabral in the way of India.

@iagosadsad

11 ай бұрын

Eu tbm aprendi isso

@lfsm9380

9 ай бұрын

That's incorrect. Brazil was not "found in 1500" by accident. Because they realized that circumnavigating Africa required the so-called "Volta do Mar", the Portuguese knew perfectly well that a large landmass lay to the west. Portugal was a small, underpopulated, open country with lots of foreigners (as it is today). Most discoveries were kept a secret (to avoid espionage), unless to claim "rightful" claims according to this Treaty of Tordesillas.

Comment for mistakes and nuance. I say that they speak Spanish in the Philippines. They don’t, the Spanish legacy is still visible in names, but the Americans made the first big effort to introduce/impose their language to the total population.

O Brasil poderia ser maior se não tivesse perdido o Uruguai se tivesse aceito o pedido da Bolívia pra fazer parte do Brasil 😊

@lasv15

Жыл бұрын

Os uruguaios de hoje agradecem. Tão melhor sem nós.

@alvafaleiro

Жыл бұрын

Agradeçam aos tugas

@LucasHerison-kk4ud

11 ай бұрын

​@@alvafaleiro Nao

@alantabordaalves2299

11 ай бұрын

@@lasv15 coitado tu nem conhece o Uruguai e saiba que o Uruguai até hoje depende do Brasil.

Because they were colonized by Portugal, who speaks portuguese, and not Spain. Saved you 10 minutes.

In Some point the King of Portugal died without an heir, so his closest relative (the king of Spain) took the Portuguese throne. So the line was king of vanished and the Portugueses in Brazil expanded to the west.

Só terão BRs aqui, escreva em português!

Should you have added Asturias to the Spain map you showed? And other European countries also had colonies (Sweden, Prussia, other German HRE states, etc...)

Prester John?? I am Portuguese and never heard about that!

@estranhokonsta

11 ай бұрын

Deves ter ouvido falar da lenda do Preste João. È disso que ele está a falar.

I recall being taught about this in American History, which generally starts with descriptions of the exploration and conquest of the Americas by European countries. I've always found it bizarre that Europeans would sail to an inhabited land and just claim it for themselves with no regard for the people who were already there. But that is what happened.

@ppietrap3876

Жыл бұрын

that is more or less what also happens in any war to conquer land, not something exclusive to Europeans.

@PerthTowne

Жыл бұрын

@@ppietrap3876 When we were dealing with the Americas, it was Europeans.

@ppietrap3876

Жыл бұрын

​@@PerthTowne You do understand that there were several native kingdoms and empires in the Americas that were established by conquering land from other people with no regard for those people that were living there!? It baffles me why people ignore that suffering, war, death was happening everywhere, and continued to happen pretty much everywhere without any europeans near. Pretty much every acclaimed civilisation throughout history worked like that.

@PerthTowne

Жыл бұрын

@@ppietrap3876 You do understand that it was qualitatively different, and that the "native kingdoms" that were here did not subjugate whole continents by themselves and virtually wipe out whole groups through disease and genocide.

@ppietrap3876

Жыл бұрын

@@PerthTowne It was qualitatively the same, land was conquered and people died, or were subjugated, or turned into slaves, etc. Size is a question of reach, time and persistence: the Inca Empire was quite big. Why is it necessary to argue that no one else did the same thing? Why not instead spend your effort arguing about how to improve conditions for local populations and solve the legacy of racism and cultural destruction?

The dutch didn't "easily dispatch the portuguese" they only manage to dislodge them in the smaller areas and with help from the local kingdoms who were always portugal's enemies. A good exemple of this is Malaca. If you look at Brasil, Goa, Macau, Angola, Diu and many more you will see how much the Dutch lost. Besides the division of the world isn't far fetched if you consider what was known at the time as well as iberian military power. Everytime I see a foreing channel talking about my history the same errors are repeated, if you don't know what you are saying then don't spread misinformation.

8:49 no. we dont speak spanish. 20-30% of our vocabulary does have spanish loan words but the grammar and sentence structure still remains as filipino. if you place a filipino and a spanish speaker in the same room they wont understand each other.

@mendamend

Жыл бұрын

Chavacanos speak Spanish

@Keyshhh

Жыл бұрын

@@mendamend lmao they dont. Its a Spanish creole not true spanish. The majority of their words are of spanish origin but the sentence structure is from the native language

Errata: The Portuguese King KNEW that India was located to the East.

The treaty of Tordesilhas was drawn to keep the right of Portugal to explore the East, and get to India. The Portuguese king knew that India was located to the West. The people back then were not ignorant as many people think they were, the Portuguese KNEW always that India was situated to the East. That was one of the reasons that the King of Portugal refused to fund Columbus' expedition to discover new world to the West. Columbus though that he could reach India navigating to the West, and that was the reason why he named the Natives of the New World with name of "Indians". It was because of the Portuguese King refusal to fund Columbus trip, that Columbus decided to get his support from the King of Spain, he also refused and it was his wife, Queen Isabela, who agreed to pay for Columbus naval trip to the East.

Hi Jochem, the Philippines does not speak Spanish. It has its own unique set of over 100 languages (not dialects) that was preserved to this day. There is one “dialect” that was created from Spanish called “Chavacano” which still exists in some southern islands today. That is the closest language to Spanish. The Philippines adopted words in Spanish that did not have local equivalents such as the words for eating utensils forks, spoons and knives which the Spanish brought has become known ad the Spanish words for them. It is believed that the Spaniards did not want the indigenous people of the islands to learn Spanish as this could “educate them” and would rise against them later as was seen in earlier colonies in the Central and South Americas. It’s an interesting piece of history one that lasted more than 300 years… until the Americans colonized the Philippines which is why to this day there are two official languages. Filipino and English and not Spanish. I hope that helps.

Brazil has more population than all SouthAmerican Spanish speaking countries combined !!!That means most of the population (not countries but population ) in South America speaks portuguese . Then the right title should be "Why the rest of SouthAmerica doesn't speak Portuguese as Brazil does?"

Ok ok,but... ao longo dos anos,com o desenvolvimento histórico,territorial e populacional do Brasil,diversos povos se migraram para o tal país,como hebraicos,japoneses e russos. No início que eram 3 milhões de quilômetros quadrados no Brasil,agora são cerca de 8.5 milhões

Noticed a little bit of Dutch Pride in here?

@pauvermelho

Жыл бұрын

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh ok

Because Portugal colonized it and there was a treaty between Spain and Portugal in 1494.

I think it's funny how all the comments are either from yesterday or two months ago.

The arbitrary line that I find the most nonsense is the Greenwich meridian, which puts most of the countries you call western in the eastern hemisphere.

porque somos descendentes de portugues..... 😌

É isso mesmo, finalmente algum americano entende que não falamos espanhol,isso por que foi o Portugal que colonizou o brasil, e os outros países da América do Sul foram colonizados pela Espanha.

@pauvermelho

Жыл бұрын

Acho que ele não é americano

@juliomarcus

Жыл бұрын

Se eles pensam que somos todos falantes do espanhol, o brasileiro acha que só existem os EUA no mundo, a falar inglês. Não, amigo santista. Ele não é estadunidense! E também não é nativo de nenhum país anglófono, apesar de pronunciar muito bem o inglês considerado padrão da Inglaterra. É certamente de algum outro país europeu e aprendeu inglês depois.

@alantabordaalves2299

11 ай бұрын

Deixa de ser otário vira lata, os brasileiros sabem que existem dezenas de países que falam inglês e aliás apesar dos Estados Unidos falarem inglês eles não tem nenhum idioma oficial.

The title of the vídeo should have been: "This is why all South and Central America don't speak Portuguese", not the other way around. Before the "Tratado de Tordesilhas", there was the "Tratado de Alcáçovas" which would have made the land discovered by Colombo, Portuguese. The treaty of Tordesilhas was written after Portugal claimed the lands discovered by Colombo, otherwise those lands would all have been Portuguese speaking. I understand the click bait, but the facts should be narrated correctly, in order and in context, so that people watching history videos on KZread are not lead into mistake by videos to which, of course, "KZread historians" give them the twist needed to fit their needs.

@supersueca1

9 ай бұрын

Tens de dar um desconto. O gajo é holandês!