I liked that red vs blue reference at the end

@ethanwhitney6994

3 жыл бұрын

Only reason I liked the video

@La_sagne

3 жыл бұрын

especially since i was disappointed a second earlier when he said politics.. it made the rvb reference much more satisfying

@juckyvortex

3 жыл бұрын

@@La_sagne just wait until the second joke also is about Politics. That joke age pretty badly.

@ItsNerfOrNathan

3 жыл бұрын

I like how the top comment always spoils the best joke

@darkenergy7291

3 жыл бұрын

same. also, as of writing this reply, the comment has exactly 117 reactions. I stayed my hand from liking the comment only so I don't ruin this number

"The 1981 IBM Personal computer was the first PC." "It blew it's competitors out of the market."

@killingtime4444

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I noticed that too

@francisconnellan350

3 жыл бұрын

My first PC was in 1991 a Philips 386sx 16mhz 40MB hdd and 4 mb ram and ms-dos 4.0 and windows 3.0

@Bobis32

3 жыл бұрын

it was the first computer that made major inroads into homes other than the commodore 64

@biennium992

3 жыл бұрын

I interpreted that as meaning the first of its family, what used to be called the “IBM-compatible PC.” Yeah, it’s not literally the first PC, but it’s the first device of the IBM-compatible PC family and was named, “IBM Personal Computer.” I had a bigger disagreement with the “great value for money” part. The IBM PC didn’t offer great value, which is how Compaq and Dell and so on were able to undercut them so quickly. It was a great financial success because, before IBM entered the market, PCs were great but untrusted. People didn’t want to put their business on a device that cost $1500 (Commodore 64, inflation-adjusted) to $5000 (Apple II, inflation-adjusted) and looked like a toy and came from a hobbyist company. But when serious company IBM came out with a ($4000 inflation-adjusted) device without frivolous bitmapped graphics, then that validated the concept for business users. Thus disproving by example the capitalist theory of the efficient market.

@omnikaquarius4314

3 жыл бұрын

@@biennium992 great narrative, but I would suggest using the original price/year in order to allow people to calculate it by the time they read it.

TL;DR: Everything but AMD and Intel sucked so badly that they died. The end. Hey, it's me two years from the future! Don't take the TL;DR too seriously, it's a SpongeBob reference.

@bananasause2451

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks saved minutes of my life

@Fifocz

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@Paawan0

3 жыл бұрын

Oh well, I'm gonna watch it anyway

@abagel186

3 жыл бұрын

Thx

@bananasause2451

3 жыл бұрын

@@abagel186 welcome

I like the fact that AMD managed to deadlock Intel into an agreement that ensures they can't just pull the rug out from under them. Intel owns the x86 instruction set and licenses it to AMD, but AMD owns the x86-64 architecture (or AMD64) and licenses it to Intel, and their attempts at an alternative 64-bit architecture like Itanium have failed miserably.

@ThatGoat

Жыл бұрын

OR maybe (tinfoil hat on) AMD was artificially kept alive and allowed to live just so Intel doesn't trip into US anti-monopoly law which would crush their profits like rent-control .... neah, that's just tinfoil hat bullshit, no way someone would pull anything mischievous for the sake of profit .... large companies never do that.

@whiteknight7wayne493

Жыл бұрын

I suppose ur generally correct but your math doesnt include the years approximately 6+ years ...the K62 was superior and (came out in 1997) to intels pentium 4 and so forth for a few iterations , plus first to 1ghz(1999) and first to 64bit(2003). .. AMDs multicore strategy was a comparitive failure but intel took forever to move off 4 cores, if AMD had been able to capatilize on their technical success more, they would have been competitive sooner...l dont feel like doing the research but i think u didnt count some other years. when itntel was behind they maintained mind share and likely $$$ share to aid that. the impression of who is ahead isnt known or noticed by the general public. Just as Thomas Edison was a great but still inferior engineer than Westinghouse...but most ppl know the former because his publicity stunt etc and he apparently took some of his engineers credit. The truth is not easy to arrive at in this world of cheating and collusions etc.

@blairhoughton7918

2 ай бұрын

​@@whiteknight7wayne493K64 beat Intel at one or two price points; Intel ruled the rest. Then after AMD bought ATI it started to bungle everything, almost died, had to sell off its HQ and its fabs, and was saved by 1. Jim Keller handing them Ryzen (for a fee); 2. the sudden growth of crypto mining which sent GPU prices and volumes to Mars; and 3. Intel getting so arrogant, complacent, insular, and clueless that it couldn't make any progress at all for nearly a decade.

fun fact: AMD used to be team green :-)

@sharcc2511

3 жыл бұрын

Can confirm, my stock cooler on my FX-8120 has the green logo. And also runs like shit.

@akhyarrayhka4048

3 жыл бұрын

Amd basically intel

@CHAD-ek4dl

3 жыл бұрын

nvidia was bigger green brand at any time

@MarkLikesCoffee860

3 жыл бұрын

ATI was team red. AMD bought team red in 2006.

@DJSV25

3 жыл бұрын

@@sharcc2511 I also have a 8350 stock cooler. That thing is hilariously bad. It seems like they build it like shit on purpose.

A couple of years ago: "why is there only one CPU company?" I'd like to think we've made 100% progress

@naoltitude9516

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@DiarrheaBubbles

3 жыл бұрын

I built my first AMD rig in the early 2000s. Pretty sure AMD has been around for a long long time.

@jklusky2425

3 жыл бұрын

@@DiarrheaBubbles hasnt been relevant for a while tho

@jaquanmanes5950

3 жыл бұрын

@@jklusky2425 that's literally refuted by the video tho ;p

@alikebadge6

3 жыл бұрын

200%

plot twist: the guy is Linus in disguise but more chill

@brycecrispy1897

3 жыл бұрын

It's a deep fake, secretly the person behind is Linus

@rehanasultana6216

3 жыл бұрын

Ye

@redpyro217

3 жыл бұрын

You can tell by the LTT sweater

@mikehunt3688

3 жыл бұрын

and funny too

@mike3963

3 жыл бұрын

It’s Linus but in the 90’s and funny

Imagine if Qualcomm randomly said that they're gonna start making a PC cpu, the earth would shatter

@WhyteLis21

3 жыл бұрын

If Apple hadn't switch to ARM for their M1 chip, I though, Apple would be the one, though. Lol.

@N3345

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhyteLis21 only problem is price because... Ya know 1200$ for a phone with badder specs than a 800$ phone and NO CHARGER apple cpu gonna be only the blueprints

@WhyteLis21

3 жыл бұрын

@@N3345 👍😁

@WhyteLis21

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandaccount4968 Well then, you better keep up. It's not 2012, it's 2021! 😆

@porridgeman

3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t Qualcomm make the Surface cpu?

Yo I love this guy. His voice is like BUTTER

@azyrael96

3 жыл бұрын

Still a ripoff from that guy from ltt though.

@ysnsmth

3 жыл бұрын

@@azyrael96 ikr, these guys have literally no shame in stealing voices🙄

@randompirates4824

3 жыл бұрын

too sweet even youtube thinks he speaking korean

@timothynye438

3 жыл бұрын

@@azyrael96 you are kidding, right?

@Dogetheun

3 жыл бұрын

@@timothynye438 of course he’s kidding

A "low-cost, but powerful" Intel CPU. How times have changed.

@the_danksmith134

3 жыл бұрын

"...because of their high performance per watt..."

@jayaniceday3602

3 жыл бұрын

Actually things were not that low cost back then with floppy drives costing near $300 and an average Apple II running in the $5000 range. Of course DIY PCs did not exist back then to purchase individual CPUs.

@crazywyvern4704

3 жыл бұрын

They are actually low cost but powerful now that amd is king and kicked the prices up like 50-100 dollars

@juliancumming6893

3 жыл бұрын

Intel chips are way cheaper than the amd counterparts in my country right now and they're actually flush with stock. Alot of people moving to Intel right now for how much cheaper it is and will be for a good few months to a year.

@thefreedomguyuk

3 жыл бұрын

And yet, if you look at what you are feeding into it, it's comparatively quite lame.

1:49 for almost my entire life I finally know what AMD stands for

@drright71

3 жыл бұрын

Level Up: Intel stands for Integrated Electronics.

@justamanofculture12

3 жыл бұрын

@@drright71 nice lol lol

@md.mehedihasan9348

3 жыл бұрын

A simple google search would fullfil your quest long before.

@dimdimbramantyo7666

3 жыл бұрын

@@drright71 *mindblown *

@dimdimbramantyo7666

3 жыл бұрын

@@md.mehedihasan9348 the thing is, I didn't even knew that AMD is an abbreviation

*"Red pill or blue pill"* This shit is relevant everywhere

@dopplesoddner2899

3 жыл бұрын

L vs Light

@Nxbnull

3 жыл бұрын

Literally

@monkeslayer-km5ho

3 жыл бұрын

Purple pill or gay pill (RGB pill) Recommended: gay pill

@nazmulhossain5490

3 жыл бұрын

Red wire or blue wire on bomb

@TheRealFFS

2 жыл бұрын

Not in the graphics card domain.

Nobody: Subtitles: Korean Edit: erm, they roll out their own subtitle, the joke can considered dead.

@amitezuthachan5779

3 жыл бұрын

nobody nobody tired of this

@JanghanHong

3 жыл бұрын

and... the Korean is gibberish too, it's doesn't even seem to be a phonetic transcription, just word salad.

@brandencoburn757

3 жыл бұрын

At least I'm Korean and can read it, but it's just words... doesn't match

@theflame45

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@utspish

3 жыл бұрын

@@JanghanHong it's trying its best, some parts are phonetically similar

"Two CPU companies" Correction: *Two x86 CPU companies* .

@wta1518

3 жыл бұрын

Correction: Two CPU companies that make CPUs that actually work for desktops.

@saricubra2867

3 жыл бұрын

@@wta1518 You have to count laptops too.

@wta1518

3 жыл бұрын

@@saricubra2867 Sorry. Two CPU companies that make CPUs that actually work for desktops or laptops without emulation.

@wta1518

3 жыл бұрын

@Jobins John Most, not all.

@thekombinator5833

3 жыл бұрын

@@wta1518 LOL 68000 what was that insignificant blip.

As a computer science student, I think that part of the reason they have taken out the market is that it is VERY hard to make a CPU better, so if you already have a base and dedicated team and resources it is easier to continue on the market than it is for other companies to enter the market, as they won't have the baseline of equipment and reputation

@justamanofculture12

3 жыл бұрын

As a fellow computer science student, i agree with you. It's actually very very hard to manufacturer cpus cheaply. And creating a new cpu architecture is nearly impossible lol.

@brenofaria4107

3 жыл бұрын

As a dentist, I agree

@LividSky

3 жыл бұрын

As a highschooler who wants to pursue a field that works with computers, yes

@thevindictive6145

3 жыл бұрын

As a human, I totally disagree. Licensing should only be a point to purchase until a certain time has passed. But there is no reason why they can't just copy and paste. There are massive potential profits and I got a feeling politics are stopping the copy and paste from happening.

@marcelosantos5683

3 жыл бұрын

@@thevindictive6145 well, intel did this with the 8088 processor (I think it was that one), and now we have 2 companies ruling the market. Also, Intel's first microprocessor was made exactly 50 years ago, so even with the best patent/copyright laws they may still have the patent for it, and it is known that companies try to "extend" the lifetime of a patent, but nothing is done (like printer inks and insulin medication). At the end you are right, realising the patents would make it easier, but I still think it would be hard

Riley: Why are there only two cpu companies? Apple: Who said there were only two?

@somabiswas2629

3 жыл бұрын

When apple started to make pc CPUs

@hexados7479

3 жыл бұрын

@@somabiswas2629 Don’t you mean Mac cpus

@somabiswas2629

3 жыл бұрын

@@hexados7479 I mean Processors not only for Mac or iMac, for many PCs like Intel

@cheedam8738

3 жыл бұрын

@@somabiswas2629 true. they only make cpus for mac and you cant build a custom mac.

@last7509

3 жыл бұрын

the heglian dialectic. thats why. ( and id like to see you build a mac by yourself)

Meanwhile the Chinese happily make x86 CPU's with the old Cyrix/VIA license.

@ThylineTheGay

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@GeoTechLand

3 жыл бұрын

It is looking like x86 cpus will be obsolete soon with the rise of ARM. But I hope that RISC V CPUs replace ARM eventually.

@anona1443

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeoTechLand advancements in virtualisation will render cpu architecture obsolete for personal computers.

@EDToasty

3 жыл бұрын

​@@anona1443 > cpu architecture obsolete That's... not how that works at all.

@anona1443

3 жыл бұрын

@@EDToasty I actually meant "immaterial"

When he said "Please colonel, I'm married", I felt that

@stonethemason12

3 жыл бұрын

Really. You felt it.

@reprisler

3 жыл бұрын

@@stonethemason12 It's devastating. You're devastated right now.

@jackalsandwolves3693

3 жыл бұрын

Remember, KFC made a dating game with the colonel.

@neoasura

3 жыл бұрын

@@stonethemason12 Come on, you know it's hip when kids repeat things they constantly see others make in comments like "I felt that" or "plot twist" or "we need to protect him at all costs"

@OrangeC7

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackalsandwolves3693 I was trying to forget about that

I love how Zilog (maker of the Z80 processor) is technically still around and being used.

@GSBarlev

5 ай бұрын

TI graphing calculators, right?

Daaaaaamn! Riley coming in with that Linus level segue into the sponsor! Well done, my man.

One economic principle: Economies of Scale.

@drabberfrog

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Silicon engraving machines are expensive.

@dan_loup

3 жыл бұрын

Also patent trolling to hell. Trying to make x86 CPU without getting trounced by intel and AMD patents is quite impossible. Just ask nvidia.

@asleeperj

3 жыл бұрын

@@dan_loup Another Economic Principle: Regulatory Capture.

@devinotero1798

3 жыл бұрын

Not how it works lol

@huhwah5387

3 жыл бұрын

@@devinotero1798 Hahahahahehehehehhohohohowhohowhwohwho 😅🤣🤣😅😂😂😅😅🤣😂😂😅🤣

The IBM was anything but affordable at the time. We have the clones to thank for most of the popularity :)

@solid-state

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! The first IBM PC wasn't anything of what's described in the video, it was clones and brand recognition that made it popular, and it still took almost 10 years for it to become popular in the home market

@dan_loup

3 жыл бұрын

The gang of nine made it a thing

@samtherat6

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was the fact that the hardware could easily be replicated, and the small company known as “Microsoft” was allowed to license the OS to other companies.

@DocTime56

3 жыл бұрын

@Scar. The IBM PC wasn’t THAT popular when compared to the IBM compatible (or clone) PC’s

@Chriva

3 жыл бұрын

@Scar. I'm saying that IBM may've been the ones to invent the overall PC architecture(the overall platform, not the processor ISA) but they were just overly expensive business machines (Not surprising given their name: International Business Machines Corp.) not really intended for the home market before Compaq and several other companies reverse engineered their platform and made their own machines. IBM did a big mistake and used off-the-shelf components so the other guys just had to implement their own BIOS that was compatible with the software used by IBM PC. There's so much more to the whole story so I highly recommend you spend some time reading up on it. :)

Nvidia saw this video and didn't get AMD, they got MAD.

Hey! Don't forget Zilog's Z80! The one with built in support for dynamic RAM. And Fairchild made one CPU often used in early TV game consoles, the ones with cartridges. I think that one was called F8. Interesting since the memory chips contained the address register and the CPU just issued base address and then incremented or decremented the address.

3:24 After the "now, of course" I expected Riley to say "its time for the quick bits"

@CreeperPookie

3 жыл бұрын

it's*

@stargazerequiem

3 жыл бұрын

@@CreeperPookie how old are you? You seem pretentious

Original title in case it got changed: Why are there only two CPU companies?

@nevoyu

3 жыл бұрын

They do seem to be renaming video titles pretty often these days.

@TitanTubs

3 жыл бұрын

Just seeing what works best with YT analytics

@uyghur-zv4fe

3 жыл бұрын

you can also see the original title if you have notifications on

@AbhishekBM

3 жыл бұрын

Why would it get changed?

@zimbu_

3 жыл бұрын

Please fix your stuff KZread. Nobody wants the title change meta, the only reason it exists is because your algorithm wants it to exist.

If memory serves, Intel wasn't too keen on licencing x86. It took AMD and Cyrix reverse engineering early Intel chips. And I think IMB x86 CPUs were just rebranded Cyrix ones, because Cyrix desperately needed a fab to make their chips and IBM basically said "Sure we'll make your CPUs, But half of them are going to be IBM CPUs" and they didn't really have a better option.

@bricefleckenstein9666

5 ай бұрын

No, it took IBM *requiring* a second source - which ended up being AMD.

@blairhoughton7918

2 ай бұрын

​@@bricefleckenstein9666And Intel bungling that license agreement.

@bricefleckenstein9666

2 ай бұрын

@@blairhoughton7918 More that Intel didn't worry about having AMD as the second source, once they decided to put up with it due to IBM pressure.

@blairhoughton7918

Ай бұрын

@@bricefleckenstein9666 They accepted it then, grudgingly. But once that expired and IBM wasn't driving, Intel sued to stop AMD, and the courts exposed how badly they'd bungled the original agreement. Probably cost them about a trillion dollars over 30 years.

@bricefleckenstein9666

Ай бұрын

@@blairhoughton7918 The third party agreement didn't EXPIRE. Intel sued to END it, as IBM was no longer worrying about enforcing it.

*Arm joined the chat*

RISC-V is on the horizon, and might change the Intel-AMD duopoly. It's an interesting time we live in

@pablo17667140

3 жыл бұрын

plis, i have a lot of hope about a future with RISC-V

@Blaze6108

3 жыл бұрын

Eh, it would need to implement or emulate x86, which has a licensing issue that courts haven't pronounced themselves on yet. Although hopefully Apple's M1, which also runs x86 in part, might give them the right nudge.

@EndOfForever

3 жыл бұрын

If I was AMD or Intel, I'd be researching and developing RISC-V for a post-x86 world.

@alfiegordon9013

3 жыл бұрын

Haha good one

@jokinglimitreached1503

3 жыл бұрын

@@Blaze6108 All x86 patents expire in year 2026, I believe. That means full emulation is possible then. RISC-V seems to be the future of all CPUs, including IoT, cloud and desktop, if the funding is there.

When I clicked on this video I was like: why is Linus voicing over this video?

@farhabaig8097

3 жыл бұрын

Sameeee

@superslike

3 жыл бұрын

@Hexor nah

Lol at the subtitles dubbing “non-x86” as “NaN x86” at 3:42

@anmol9886

3 жыл бұрын

So what's funny?...mistakes are everywhere

@utubekullanicisi

3 жыл бұрын

@@anmol9886 Still funny to me.

Protip: There isn't only two CPU companies, even for x86. Vortex86 still exists for example. VIA might still be alive too. Elbrus2000 CPUs also can run x86 software through Binary Translation for any OS.

@arthemis1039

3 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed, but they are not relevant in the Consumer PC space :)

@barrybritcher

3 жыл бұрын

I thought via was Nvidia now or is that just me

@sharoyveduchi

3 жыл бұрын

@@arthemis1039 Elbrus WILL be relevant in the consumer PC space. Some russian youtubers already have access to them and are able to play AAA games on them.

@arthemis1039

3 жыл бұрын

@@sharoyveduchi I hope you are right !

@RonnyJakobsson

3 жыл бұрын

Both Apple and Microsoft are moving to Arm. So in a couple of years we will have many more options for the PC

KZread: this video has 13 comments!! Me: can I see them? KZread: No.

@templeofthemonkeygod9047

3 жыл бұрын

@@applesilicon6863 algorithm so drunk that it's influencing KZread's code

@sravankrishna237

3 жыл бұрын

@@applesilicon6863 yeet

@dr.velious5411

3 жыл бұрын

On mobile it can mismatch comments with the wrong videos, it's pretty weird for a few minutes while you try to figure what the heck people are talking about.

apple watching this: :/

@ramyRHM

3 күн бұрын

Apple makes chips only for themselves They have complete control over hardware and software Plus a mid range CPU from AMD is better than an M3 chip

Not sure if it'd be in the scope of Techquickie videos, but could we also get on basics of x86 64 and a few other popular instruction sets;maybe also how they relate to IPCs etc.

Because nobody else has enough cash and/or the right connections for the hardware to make them

@flos251

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/loWrltlyh8q-k7Q.html

@OfficialyMax

3 жыл бұрын

Unless it's Elon musk ofc :p Imagine if he could though oml

@Bot-bg2cz

3 жыл бұрын

bruh

@Blaze6108

3 жыл бұрын

More like licensing. The idea that implementing an instruction set would be a copyright or patent violation is completely insane to me, but because it is legally untreated ground no one wants to take the risk, and the judicial branch has never taken a position despite how obviously important this is. Government inaction is great isn't it.

@5GTower1000Percent

3 жыл бұрын

That is not correct. Cash is not the prime factor here. The issue is that the x86 architecture is needed, which is licensed by intel, which means, that yes you need money, but even then you need a shit ton of it for all the engineers and whatnot. You can also just make RISC-V CPUs, or AMR CPUs. The problem is that they don't directly support x86 programs. Their instructionsets are different. They use a different basic language for the CPU if that makes it easier to understand. Every program needs to be compiled for these with fingers crossed that you won't have to make massive changes. But even just looking at x86 we had problems for AMD Ryzen which for some programs took years to fix because of some differences like the infinity fabric. It's not just money. It's a lot of many weird things. And the problem is that x86 is a very old (and shitty imo) architecture, that is owned by one company, that theoretically can be forced to license it to others, but the cost of entry is just way too high. If it was a open source architecture like RISC-V that this would make things easier for competitors to arise. Which also makes me wonder why apple didn't go this route.

Wait. Isn't Cyrix pronounced like """"Sairix""""?

@RokeJulianLockhart.s4eb2q

3 жыл бұрын

Who are you asking?

@johnbod

3 жыл бұрын

Samir Naga... Naga ... Naga... Not gonna work here anymore, anyway

@bipolaradhdsuck

3 жыл бұрын

See-rix

@Joeyboots80

3 жыл бұрын

I knew someone who worked for them, he pronounced it Sigh-Ricks. And yes, I am old AF.

@youdontknowme5969

3 жыл бұрын

LOL I don't think anybody knows I've heard all 3: sir-ix seer-ix sy-rix

That giggle at the start makes me WANT TO WORK THERE. It seems so fun.

The reason for duo-triopoly is very simple and mathematically understandable: Because we allowed to destroy competition on markets and slow down (or completly stop) any new third party development process/company, due to introduction of patents/licenses.

once upon a time, it was Intel and AMD Now it's just AMD and Intel

@tilburg8683

3 жыл бұрын

Neither are really competitive over here intel is really expensive and amd is like 50% more expensive than intel. But I got some good deal on the used market so thats a win win, I basically got a new 6 core cpu and neither AMD or intel got money.

@TheCallMeCrazy

3 жыл бұрын

Cyrix is actually still around, sort of - it was acquired by VIA, who still make X86 CPUs today. You don't hear about them because their focus is on cheap CPUs with low power consumption. They did, however, partner with a chinese government entity to create CPUs that are in the ballpark of the early Core i-series in performance.

@bassanup

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCallMeCrazy good to know that. my first one was an IBM Cyrix back in '95

@I_killed_that_beard_guy

3 жыл бұрын

Soon I will launch a new company AmTel

To this day I was convinced, it's pronounced "Ci-Rix", like the Y in Cyprus is an "I" - Was I wrong my whole life?

@MrDorkLard

3 жыл бұрын

No, just some people are too lazy to find the correct pronunciation: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f5Wg1MFqd9ucYrQ.html

@demogorgonzola

3 жыл бұрын

We should retaliate by pronouncing Intel as "EYEN-tel" (as in Einstein) the same manner as Hank Marvin used to pronounce Jean Michel Jarre as "Gin Mitchel Jar... Eh" because Jarre himself pronounced Hank as "Onk" :)

@CyberDragon10K

3 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of how I say the company Asus' name as Ay-suss (A + Suss, as in sustainable) instead of Linus' Ay-Soos. What Linus says sounds odd to me.

@HarmonyEdge

3 жыл бұрын

That "Seericks" pronunciation made me question my tech trivia knowledge base for a moment... 😅 Incidentally, in my neck of the woods Asus is usually pronounced "Ah-Soos" due to language convention... 😅

@ghostnike901

3 жыл бұрын

I think it just depends on your region/country. Heard a guy the other day pronounce Linux with a long "I" sound like Linus except with an "X"

I was hoping you would actually discuss some of the "actual manufacturers" and Fabs and how they are "rebranded" as another manufacturer.

You guys should do a video on the other processors that made personal computers popular. Like the Zilog z80, MOS Technology 6502, Motorola 68000 and even ARM itself. Intel wasn't the only CPU manufacturer in the market back in the 70s and 80s.

@superduper6090

Ай бұрын

You should check out the channel LowSpecGaming, covers all of the processors you mentioned(including ARM) other than the Motorola 68000

Am I Deja vuing like mad or is this a reupload and I've seen this before?

@rawdez_

3 жыл бұрын

in your universe they showed it a year earlier

@mouhamedzarzi6693

3 жыл бұрын

@Belagerungsmörser the Sheep but this ''politics" thing is 1 year old or since this Trump shit got the job.

@aditya_gupta

3 жыл бұрын

@Belagerungsmörser the Sheep peaceful

@mrdefaultynoob

3 жыл бұрын

@@aditya_gupta are you from Ireland cuz I might know you

@aditya_gupta

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrdefaultynoob nah.... I'm a lonely loser

no one: the set: casually has 3k worth of cpus lying around

@Clangdon0148

3 жыл бұрын

Are those 2 cpus really worth that much?

@_rileyweaver_637

3 жыл бұрын

@@Clangdon0148 Yeah, 10900k about $600, plus a threadripper, which depending on the model could go anywhere from $1400 to $4000

@Clangdon0148

3 жыл бұрын

@@_rileyweaver_637 ah ok, I couldn’t tell what the Ryzen cpu was

You guys should do a video about the differences between using a headphone port on your PC, audio interface, and dedicated DAC (Digital [to] Analog Converter)

I remember AMD struggling for years to compete with Intel. Now AMD processors are so powerful! I remember Cyrix too.. that was a long time ago since I heard or read that name.

Ask about VR headsets for next tech quickie

I feel like I still don't know why there's only two...

@Sick1982

3 жыл бұрын

Because there are many more...

@Distress.

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it barely touche Don it but licenses and probably because it's a very capital intensive industry

@Argoon1981

3 жыл бұрын

@WhatTheHell AmIDoingWithMyLife The US cannot forbid other countries from making CPU's, even x86 ones, China produces x86 CPU's for their own internal market using old Cyrex/Via tech. The real reason for so few CPU makers, is that modern CPU's are VERY VERY hard to do, not everyone has the tech and the people to do it, no matter if they cared for patents or not.

@michaeljoshua5040

3 жыл бұрын

Because programmers and operating systems developers used to code for the CPUs of these two companies only. So basically, a CPU without a programmer is useless.

@biennium992

3 жыл бұрын

The American implementation of capitalism privileges the convenience of the consumer rather than the health of competing companies. That creates strong winner-takes-all dynamics. Intel created the x86, and once they grew big enough not to need second-source manufacturers anymore, they took arguably illegal steps (anti-trust law violations, lots of lawsuits and investigations and multi-billion-dollar deals to resolve them) to ensure that companies that wanted the fastest x86 processors couldn’t go to other companies for the not-fastest processors. AMD limped along on the back of third-tier manufacturers and PC enthusiasts, especially when they merged with NexGen in 1996 and started making processors that were competitive with the Intel processors of the time. The K7 Athlon was sometimes faster than the fastest Intel processors, and was a major turning point. It enabled them to overcome Intel’s monopolistic hold on the PC manufacturers. But AMD is still far smaller than Intel, not capable of producing nearly as many chips. Basically, Intel’s aggressive and arguably illegal tactics starved the other x86 chip makers so they couldn’t invest the money to keep up, and AMD managed to hang on long enough for the anti-trust cases to resolve in their favor.

The CC French translation in this video is amazingly on point. LTT hiring Francophones?

Short answer is because anti-monopoly laws aren't remotely effective and most politicians too weak or corrupt to dare break up the monopolies.

@blairhoughton7918

2 ай бұрын

"two" != "mono"

I love Advanced Micro. The first PC I built used an AMD ATHLON 64 x2. After the PHENOM series, I switched to Intel but just recently switched back with a R5 3600

Is it just me or does the background look very Team Green lol

Damn, that Cyrix CPU brings back memories... my first pc had that one ! ...And tbh it DID run quite well for the time. Used that thing till Pentium II got out and later switched to AMD (an overclocked AMD Duron CPU being my first 1ghz one)

@davidjgreer9477

3 жыл бұрын

my second CPU was a Cyrix. tried to upgrade my 166mmx with a cyrix socket 7 running at 233mhz or something.. it was fine, but no literally no faster. got a P2 and that was that.

Ouw Riley... Lyk nogal of hy n duidelike bra ka wies nuh.. salute!

I also thought about that , maybe there is more but the other ones arent as good

Back in the day we pronounced it Ceye - Rix

I would love to see the two companies fight it out in a game of TF2. You already know why.

Seems like Intel and AMD have the same kind of professional relationship Pepsi and Coke have. They're "rivals" but also know without the other there's no fun competition driving each other's prices up

3:54 I see a Red vs Blue reference, I get happy.

I remember having a Cyrix 486-33 back in the day, mostly because it was considerably cheaper than the Intel version, that said when I jumped to Pentium I went with Intel (obviously) and not the 586 chip that other companies put out.

You are really rocking that Ned Flanders look! If you keep growing the moustache, you may eventually achieve a full Yosemite Sam.

Do a video on why we don't see horizontal PCs anymore! I love those!

@gorgit

3 жыл бұрын

Because it takes less space on the floor or desk? Or what answer are you anticipating?

According to KZread (and its automatic subtitles system), this video is in Korean.

@oliverstrubbe

3 жыл бұрын

Holy cow thanks for pointing this out

@macca3980

3 жыл бұрын

yea that is so funny

@ZipplyZane

3 жыл бұрын

At least they're doing auto captions again. I thought they were giving up on that, as most videos I've been watching lately don't have them, even if they have no other captions. Here I was thinking that Pornhub vs. blind people suit would result in sites having to be more accessible, note lss.

@ZipplyZane

3 жыл бұрын

@@nobody7817 Not at the time when this video was released. It was only Korean.

@heroninja1125

Ай бұрын

At least it isn't another video with Vietnamese auto captions.

Just a quick side note. The Apple PPC G5 was the first 64bit consumer Desktop. And they ditched PowerPC mostly because IBM failed to deliver on a mobile version. We are seeing more ARM based systems though which should be interesting. When PowerPC was still a thing it actually forced Intel and AMD to innovate so hopefully that will start happening again.

@GSBarlev

5 ай бұрын

Hello from the future! You were spot on! The high performance-per-Watt threat from Apple, Nvidia (Ampere), Broadcomm and others has forced AMD to innovate the most powerful and efficient chips we've ever seen, especially in the mobile and server spaces! And with RISC-V getting a ton of attention lately, it's looking like the processor landscape is shaping up to be more diverse than it's been since the 1980s!

Good video I always wondered about this.

I hope there's more CPU companies in the future.

@n0tjak

4 ай бұрын

nvidia started making cpus

@blairhoughton7918

2 ай бұрын

There already are. Everyone's phones have CPUs. Almost all of them Arm cores in Qualcomm SoCs fabbed by TSMC, but, hey, it's at least one...

So, basically... Intelectual "Propriety" protected by the State. That's why.

@jimmyrichards5595

3 жыл бұрын

The State. That thing is an old, archaic, barbarous relic. Ancient, outdated, and obsolete! Unlike like the Gold that I hold. 😀

TL;DR: It's expensive and hard to become a cpu company like really expensive and hard

@Frizzy9000

3 жыл бұрын

For sure. I studied ECET in college and my professors summed up how hard any electronic chip fabrication was. Something along the lines of, “The first chip cost 2 million dollars, the rest are $1 each”.

@Aereto

3 жыл бұрын

@@Frizzy9000 Nanoscale transistors and fabrication.

@TraumaER

3 жыл бұрын

Surprised Amazon hasn't tried to get involved. They seem to like destroying every other industry.

@confusioned2249

3 жыл бұрын

@@TraumaER yeah, except the phone industry especially the phone industry

The "How did this happen?" in the beginning remembered me of bill wurtz's "history of the entire world, i guess".

As someone who worked for an Intel competitor in the early 1980's I can say from experience that it takes more than a spiffy chip to succeed in the general purpose MPU market. The support that potential customers looked for was staggering -- availability of engineering samples, development systems, a selection of operating systems and application software manufacturer's technical support and so on. But THE most important criteria in selection of an MPU chip was did the customer believe the manufacturer could deliver working chips in the needed quantities at the target price when they went to production. This was the driving motivation of IBM in selecting the 8088. IBM engineers were not thrilled with the 8088 for several reasons but IBM decision makers believed Intel could produce the 8088 in the required numbers as promised and offered an upgrade path to the 8086 which was introduced in 1982 with the AT. Once IBM, at that time the most respected name in computers, blessed the Intel offering and a huge third party effort to produce software and hardware add-ons emerged it was pretty much game over for competitors as no other general purpose market was nearly as big as P.Cs. Some companies did well in the workstation market but the volume was much lower and hence even those were doomed. Even the Motorola 68k family, which was clearly architecturally superior to the x86, fizzled out by the 1990s and was discontinued. Some of the competitors morphed their offerings into special purpose mpus for high-volume but low glamour roles like copiers and faxes but the large volume P.C. market was owned by Intel.

oh yeah.....riley!!!!

@edeshkumar9686

3 жыл бұрын

for a sec , i thought its radbrad

@mr.triwolf3096

3 жыл бұрын

@@edeshkumar9686 me too

@alertsaucer4104

3 жыл бұрын

Why do you have theradbrad profile picture

@ayushmaanbhanja4293

3 жыл бұрын

@@alertsaucer4104 he's my inspiration. So I used it

There is still Elbrus. Yes, it is shitty, always a few years behind, and you cannot even cool it with a liquid vodka cooler, but hey, technically it is a cpu company.

@ayan1875

3 жыл бұрын

@@loy7163 and he is not American.

Love these Techquickies but could you have Linus do a cameo where he drops something no one can get their hands on line the other videos?

I got the Pulsway ad that Linus made even tho I'm using the adblocker. Linus knows how to work his way around IT things

Better question would be why are gpus very expensive? like come on $500 would get you the best 6years ago

@Demmrir

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, you can thank markets and Bitcoin for that. Bitcoin created the first overwhelming demand for GPUs which, paired with ebay, showed sellers how much they could charge for GPUs while still moving units. Why keep selling top tier units when you can price the 2080 Ti at $1200 and still sell tons with a higher margin and greater profits? So you can thank cryptocurrencies and gamers who will pay out the ass for hardware from scalpers for the endlessly inflating GPU prices.

@olsonbryce777

3 жыл бұрын

Was just wondering this. Bought a $200 laptop today that runs like garbage but for $400 I could have gotten top of the line back in 2010.

@dSCHUMI1004

3 жыл бұрын

@@olsonbryce777 Top of the line for 400$ laptop? That’s bullshit, even in 2010.

@thiagolucas893

Ай бұрын

@@Demmrir Ethereum created the demands for GPUs. Bitcoin was mined in CPUs first, then ASICs

"Why there is only two." "Because they bought other companies and/or underpriced their products. And sometimes did a better product." That's the right answer. The same answer for "why Oracle is so big and famous in Database market, as MS SQL Server?"

@CreeperPookie

3 жыл бұрын

bought*, That's*, missed a quote before "That's*"

@AlexeiDimitri

3 жыл бұрын

@@CreeperPookie Thanks, Mr Spell Checker

@CreeperPookie

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlexeiDimitri No problem.

@biennium992

3 жыл бұрын

In Intel’s case, there were arguably illegal contracts with customers. Like how Microsoft made it expensive for large PC companies to preinstall operating systems other than Windows, Intel made it expensive for large PC companies to offer PCs with CPUs other than Intel.

There have been lots of other chip developers in the past, apart from just Cyrix. Another one that comes to mind is IDT (Makers of RISC chips) / Centaur Technology's WinChip. WinChip was meant to be budget competitor to the Intel Pentium & AMD K5/K6... but it failed horribly.

I see Techquickie getting all "Between Two Ferns" back there...

Apple: Am I a joke to you? Most People: Yes.

@Aereto

3 жыл бұрын

Very yes. IBM: All the yes.

@rocketpencil5948

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely yes

@hilal_younus

3 жыл бұрын

Apple never Gave their CPU’s to anyone , If they did , most flagships would’ve been using their A-series chips rather than Snapdragon

@cybercery5271

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't apple have the single most powerful CPU that you can put in a phone

@rocketpencil5948

3 жыл бұрын

@@cybercery5271 Kinda. Qualcomm is a little bit better now with the s21

I feel bad for linus, he has to keep reading these bot comments

@bsigns1935

3 жыл бұрын

is this bot comment too?

@patrickweaver1105

3 жыл бұрын

It's cute that you think Linus doesn't have people to do that for him.

@patrickweaver1105

3 жыл бұрын

@Yitzy He wouldn't have time to do anything else. So I don't take that literally.

@Ebani

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickweaver1105 Ppl believe the dumbest of things...

@hijacked6663

3 жыл бұрын

@@bsigns1935 nah b

You should do a video on how most USB-C cables are actually USB2; especially the charging cables that come with most phones. I mistakenly assumed any USB-C cable was USB3 and wondered why file transfers were still so slow.

Lmao there are 100+ CPU companies, it's just that their CPU's are no where as good as the ones from AMD or Intel

Alternative title: The pals that hate each other

you forgot to mention that Intel created their non-backward compatible 64bit processors and launched it 1 year earlier than AMD but tanked and never got widespread support.

@breakfast7595

2 жыл бұрын

Thank God

Loved the RVB reference!

As i recall you missed a pile of manufactures. ‎ There. was Timex sinclair zx spectrum cpu also used in my Coleco Adam my TI994a used its own chip made by Texas Instruments. The Motorola 68000 used in Apple Macintosh and my Atari St. It died out on the 90s when Apple switch to intel killing that one. and Commodore 64 used a MOS cpu so there were others in the early days but some couldnt keep up with cost of redesigning or market share there were actually a few others I dont remember the names of Osborn one of the 1st lunch boxes for instance and many operating systems ibm os4 Tos to name a few...dam im old

"At least THIS Red vs Blue fight won't involve politics" BUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRNNNN ROOSTERTEETH!!!

@Sir_Whammy

3 жыл бұрын

Has literally nothing to do with rt lol

integers: whole numbers with no decimal, floating points: numbers with decimal point. is simple, should have just said that :P

@Aereto

3 жыл бұрын

@Lycan And the emphasis of maintaining a consistent data type and never intermingle floats unless you really want those imprecisions. Cyrix didn't expect simulations and their critical need of floats.

The main problem Is x86 modality no other architecture is so modular But even if we did , we would have no OS or application to run on it , this means that as applications are built they will be built for a single purpose it wouldn't get hold in to very well mesning it would stay inside the dedicated purposes market

I literally saw an AD with this guy in it 😂 on this video

I like how apple doesn't have to sell its cpus to make a profit even though they are so good .

@Clangdon0148

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair they probably couldn’t sell them because of the Soc type construction making them basically the entire motherboard

@watema3381

3 жыл бұрын

This ^^

@randommcranderson5155

3 жыл бұрын

Apple makes more profit by not paying someone else to design their cpus, and takes a part of the cut they would normally have paid intel. Apple isn't a fab company to sell CPUs. It's a basic misunderstanding of what's going on. Apple isn't competing in CPU space for sales, they're just moving to distinguish their products and keep a bigger cut of the supply chain themselves.

@ralph90009

3 жыл бұрын

@@randommcranderson5155 Also, moving away from the x86 instruction set effectively kills off the Hackintosh market, which is something that Apple has been actively pursuing ever since they switched to Intel from PowerPC.

@qupeter1224

3 жыл бұрын

@@randommcranderson5155 looking at the design of m1, the benefit of apple making their own cpu is beyond just hardware and software optimization, m1 definitely doesn’t care about the cost of the cpu considering it have double the amount of instruction and huge modern reorder buffers in order to significantly increase the instruction per cycle. considering m1 3.2 ghz is almost as fast as zen 3 4.5 ghz and skylake at around 5.6 ghz.

This doesn't cover even 5% of it Long story short, intel made sure that there's no competition in mid 00's by selling their CPUs at a big loss to the big companies, which lead to even AMD and VIA to get pushed out of the market almost completely, AMD has finally recovered and VIA/Zhaoxin is getting close enough to intel to compete again

@AlenHR

3 жыл бұрын

yea, this is like buzz feed for tech enthusiasts, lol

@owainkanaway8345

3 жыл бұрын

There are only companies making X86 cpus because of patents. It's practically illegal for any company to make X86 cpus because they would be violating a Intel or AMD patent. Same thing with ARM, PowerPCS, Snapdragon CPUs etc. They are all monopolies.

@TheXlen

3 жыл бұрын

@@owainkanaway8345 well yeah, patents limit use of x86, but well somebody could use x86 without breaching patents as older patents have expired, x86-64 on the other hand is harder to do as those patents won't expire for pretty long time

I had an EMachines with a Cyrix. It was terrible. Moving to an AMD K6-2 blew me away.

I got a Pulseway ads with Linus in it before this video, i thought that was the video

But I didn't really understand why there are only 2 CPU Companies.

@TorbjrnViemNess

3 жыл бұрын

Because nobody else will get the license for making x86 CPUs (which they'd have to get from Intel) and have the means to compete in the target market for these chips. That said, there are way more CPU companies (like Arm, Apple, SiFive, Huawei, IBM etc...) if one starts to look beyond just x86... :)

This is why we need ARM and RISC 😁👍🏻

@Sick1982

3 жыл бұрын

ARM is RISC ...

@Lumpia_In_Texas

3 жыл бұрын

ARM = Nvidia

@TakZ000

3 жыл бұрын

Both Intel and AMD cpus are internally RISC. Even Ryzen have a separate ARM cpu for its Platform Security Processor.

Texas Instruments makes 3Mhz TI-99 cpu's for industrial and there military use models etc.... Its too costly to enter the retail market but could they spin off a division?

wow, integer and floating point, trems i havent heard in decades

Has anyone noticed that the three “teams” in the tech world (nvidia, intel and amd) are RGB?

@exhyuga5390

3 жыл бұрын

Not only that nitendo, Xbox and PlayStation are RGB tho

@VipreNZ

3 жыл бұрын

AMD is green. RTG is Red.

@somabiswas2629

3 жыл бұрын

Holy music stops