Why are Irish people not buying electric cars? | Newstalk

New car sales figures for June EV sales are down 25%. Ivan Yates is joined by Ger Herbert (Motoring Editor Sunday Independent) to discuss the reasons behind this.
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  • @olmecking1
    @olmecking12 күн бұрын

    The lady is speaking for the establishment

  • @Rayk76

    @Rayk76

    2 күн бұрын

    She normally does

  • @jamescarroll-gp8hl

    @jamescarroll-gp8hl

    Күн бұрын

    Yes she is.

  • @seanohartaigh2209

    @seanohartaigh2209

    Күн бұрын

    Yes it's Newstalk

  • @peterryan7889

    @peterryan7889

    Күн бұрын

    It’s literally the sole purpose of the station 😂

  • @stevezodiac491

    @stevezodiac491

    2 сағат бұрын

    yes it is called propoganda !

  • @TheIrishMegaphone
    @TheIrishMegaphone2 күн бұрын

    70% of ev sales are business tax offsets.

  • @johnmeade3550

    @johnmeade3550

    2 күн бұрын

    Ànd the rest is government

  • @Greggy0
    @Greggy02 күн бұрын

    Anyone who buys an Ev for the environment hasn't a clue what it takes to make the batteries and require power plants to charge and the batteries can't be recycled.

  • @johnfrancis4401

    @johnfrancis4401

    2 күн бұрын

    The batteries can be recycled.

  • @VictorMaxol

    @VictorMaxol

    2 күн бұрын

    Yeah, well I'm better than you and I can show it by driving one.

  • @karlhulme8014

    @karlhulme8014

    2 күн бұрын

    @@johnfrancis4401a small percentage of a battery can be recycled. Still the kids in third world countries can always be forced to dig more material to make new ones.

  • @johnfrancis4401

    @johnfrancis4401

    2 күн бұрын

    @@karlhulme8014 Odd that companies are being set up in the UK to use old EV batteries in conjunction with solar panels? Australia produces 60% of the world’s lithium - are you alleging child labour is prevalent down under. LFP Batteries use lithium iron and phosphate none of these exploit child labour.

  • @karlhulme8014

    @karlhulme8014

    2 күн бұрын

    @@johnfrancis4401 check out the latest inferno at a battery recycling centre. Strange you should mention Australia as they are one of the countries set to have a real landfill problem with batteries over the next few years.

  • @timmchugh4361
    @timmchugh43612 күн бұрын

    Newstalk should change their name to RTE 3

  • @laughnowcrylater6871

    @laughnowcrylater6871

    Күн бұрын

    Well said.

  • @MrGreen_

    @MrGreen_

    14 сағат бұрын

    Rte 3 😂

  • @lm-nu1gi
    @lm-nu1gi2 күн бұрын

    Ireland is not the problem with global warming. We are a drop in the ocean compared to India China global companies military emissions, the list is endless. So people don't want to be forced to buy expensive evs because of other countries emissions!

  • @maxedww

    @maxedww

    2 күн бұрын

    Facts. 🇨🇳👉🏻🗑️

  • @TheIrishMegaphone

    @TheIrishMegaphone

    2 күн бұрын

    Newsflash. There is no anthropogenic global warming.

  • @myscene2010

    @myscene2010

    2 күн бұрын

    People waking up to the "climate change" scam.

  • @afrozqazi8356

    @afrozqazi8356

    2 күн бұрын

    Very well penned, short to the point.

  • @ShelbybossV8

    @ShelbybossV8

    Күн бұрын

    And that's why there will never be such a thing as "Net Zero",it's rainbows & unicorn stuff. Plus,we actually need carbon in our atmosphere to survive.

  • @rockbun3985
    @rockbun39852 күн бұрын

    New cars are too expensive. Some new car's have gone up 23% since 2019. And no way to an EV car

  • @meab12

    @meab12

    Күн бұрын

    New cars have always been a rip off. You know they're a rip off when a 40k euro car loses about 5k in value in its first week on the road.

  • @bwarey52

    @bwarey52

    Күн бұрын

    Have you looked at new car prices?...... there are loads of new EVs currently available for under 20k ....the reason the private buyer's won't buy them is they believe the propaganda in the media rather than actually doing some research and looking at the numbers

  • @meab12

    @meab12

    23 сағат бұрын

    @bwarey52 loads of EVs for under 20k? Examples please???

  • @bwarey52

    @bwarey52

    23 сағат бұрын

    @@meab12 nissan leaf, Peugeot E208, vauxhall E corsa.....if you look up EV guy on KZread he does a run down on current pricing. Plenty of leaf's available for under 17k . Happy shopping 👍

  • @meab12

    @meab12

    22 сағат бұрын

    @bwarey52 new leaf: starts at 34k New e208: starts at 37k I cant find a price for a new e corsa. It just says there's a new model coming. I have no idea where you get your figures from. You either made it up or you have been mislead. I got those prices from the Nissan and Peugeot websites .

  • @bebeg604
    @bebeg6042 күн бұрын

    Anything with Batteries wreck my head. So I don't want the stress of an Electric Car. I'll stick with my diesel

  • @arshadameen9523

    @arshadameen9523

    2 күн бұрын

    Try Hybrids they are very reliable.

  • @Tony-fl3rl

    @Tony-fl3rl

    2 күн бұрын

    @@bebeg604 your diesel has a battery

  • @bebeg604

    @bebeg604

    2 күн бұрын

    @Tony-fl3rl it does, but I can easily sell my van to a dealer without them refusing!

  • @jaqian

    @jaqian

    2 күн бұрын

    @@Tony-fl3rl Easily and cheaply user replaceable unlike an EVs

  • @Tony-fl3rl

    @Tony-fl3rl

    Күн бұрын

    @jaqian and ,I just stated they have batteries which they do

  • @smurfisevil
    @smurfisevil2 күн бұрын

    I think part of the problem is that a lot of people can't afford to buy a house, so they are not going to have the disposable income/savings to spend on new or used electric cars and if they are renting an apartment they might not have the EV charging facilities

  • @grfann
    @grfann2 күн бұрын

    I'm the proud new owner of 2006 VW diesel 2.5, had the engine rebuilt and vehicl restoration, overall cost less than €5k.

  • @michaelryan5962
    @michaelryan59622 күн бұрын

    I know a person, who 2 years ago bought a Mercedes, she give 75 thousand for it, about two weeks ago she went to trade it, and the dealer was only given her 40 thousand, there you go,

  • @davidkavanagh189

    @davidkavanagh189

    2 күн бұрын

    That's fairly normal depreciation of a new car. The solution to that problem is never buy a brand new car. The maths simply doesn't make sense.

  • @VictorMaxol

    @VictorMaxol

    2 күн бұрын

    Yet she's smart enough to marry some rich man.

  • @michaelryan5962

    @michaelryan5962

    2 күн бұрын

    @VictorMaxol ya the family is a weathy family not sort of a few Bob,

  • @clinger007ringer-xu2ir

    @clinger007ringer-xu2ir

    2 күн бұрын

    I am surprised she was even offered 40k for that milk float, dealer's can't sell second hand ev's .

  • @davidkavanagh189

    @davidkavanagh189

    2 күн бұрын

    @@VictorMaxol Brains are not required for that. You'll find that 'rich man' will be more concerned about other attributes.

  • @davidowens8536
    @davidowens85362 күн бұрын

    1 Govt subsidy gone 2 50% depreciation in 3 years 3 still no sign of rapid recharging facilities And yes I did buy one !

  • @joelyons886

    @joelyons886

    2 күн бұрын

    also to kick you when you are down if there are ANY ISSUES with the cells (main components of a battery by the way) and the battery as a whole charges to 70% then you have no cover on the battery and to change/fix these costs thousands oh and IF you are really unlucky and bought a Tesla THEY CAN'T replace / fix cells hahaha IF the Gov was so assured on EV then they should cover / under write all these issues under common consumer protection law BUT THEY DON'T so what does that tell you???

  • @buddy1155

    @buddy1155

    2 күн бұрын

    I don't live in Ireland but WHY does Ireland fast chargers? If you charge at home you can drive almost anywhere and back on a single charge. I live in the Netherlands, we have 25% of all fast chargers in the EU but very little people seem to use them, everyone just charges at home. It makes only sense for German or France people drive to the Netherlands, but I guess that doesn't happen a lot in Ireland.

  • @joelyons886

    @joelyons886

    2 күн бұрын

    @@buddy1155 roads are muck and the traffic is shocking case in point if you want to drive accross Dublin/Town depending on the time of day it could take you 3-4 hours for a round drip. If you travel Dublin to Cork you will not make it there and back on a single charge so again you have to charge and that is then dependent on availablity and capacity as there are not that many high speed charger so if you arrive at one there could be several cars ahead of you!

  • @Art-is-craft

    @Art-is-craft

    Күн бұрын

    @@buddy1155 Netherlands is a worse welfare state than Ireland. All those government manage programs might look great but there are not young generations coming through. Ireland has other problems.

  • @montu94
    @montu94Күн бұрын

    - High purchase price - Unrepairable - Lack of chargers - Charging time of hours vs 3 minutes of refueling Only an idiot would fall for the EV meme.

  • @gerryheery1388

    @gerryheery1388

    Күн бұрын

    you haven't got a clue most people charge when they are asleep at night

  • @neildean7515

    @neildean7515

    3 сағат бұрын

    You forgot: 1. increased frequency of tyres that are more expensive normal too 2. Massive repair costs.. electronics cost many thousands…

  • @Brian-om2hh

    @Brian-om2hh

    Сағат бұрын

    What complete and utter garbage.

  • @karlhulme8014
    @karlhulme80142 күн бұрын

    EV market share is “ worrying “ , why exactly? If people don’t want them then they need to drastically cut production of these difficult to live with, over priced, rapidly depreciating vehicles which make no appreciable difference to the environment.

  • @Breas-md6hc
    @Breas-md6hc2 күн бұрын

    Because they are cr** and lose their value fast, batteries don't last and too expensive to replace

  • @myscene2010
    @myscene20102 күн бұрын

    No second hand market for EVs. The emperor has no clothes.

  • @stealthirl

    @stealthirl

    2 күн бұрын

    Used EVs spend less time on forecourts then ICE cars

  • @Markcain268

    @Markcain268

    2 күн бұрын

    @myscene2010 this whole ev thing reminds of that fairy tale!

  • @jaqian
    @jaqian2 күн бұрын

    They're a scam

  • @paulbrowne6087

    @paulbrowne6087

    18 сағат бұрын

    Why do you say that? I'm a happy EV owner since 2017.

  • @jaqian
    @jaqian2 күн бұрын

    You don't have to wait around to charge a petrol/diesel vehicle

  • @stealthirl

    @stealthirl

    2 күн бұрын

    I don’t have to wait either, plug in when I’m home and it charges while I sleep. No need to visit a petrol station every few days and waste time standing there holding a fuel pump and even more time going it to pay.

  • @jaqian

    @jaqian

    2 күн бұрын

    @@stealthirl I like to do long drives >200km, not just commute back and forth. There isn't the infrastructure and I haven't the patience to sit around and wait to charge a car

  • @karlhulme8014

    @karlhulme8014

    Күн бұрын

    @@stealthirl and you sleep okay with the possibility of thermal runaway ?

  • @stealthirl

    @stealthirl

    Күн бұрын

    @@karlhulme8014 yup as it’s very rare compared with fire in an ICE

  • @stealthirl

    @stealthirl

    Күн бұрын

    @@jaqian I like to drive too. Last weekend I went to Waterford from Dublin for lunch. I charged the car for the return trip while I enjoyed Lunch and it was free. I went to Belfast last month and did the same. Iv been to Manchester, Limerick, Galway, Cork etc all without major delays

  • @crztank9298
    @crztank92982 күн бұрын

    Lies about the batteries. All batteries in ev and hybrid have management systems going back to the original prius and insight and the modularity is great until the it costs a specialist 2 or 3k in labour just to remove and diagnose, before parts are replaced

  • @joelyons886

    @joelyons886

    2 күн бұрын

    also if there are ANY ISSUES with the cells (main components of a battery by the way) and the battery as a whole charges to 70% then you have no cover on the battery and to change/fix these costs thousands oh and IF you are really unlucky and bought a Tesla THEY CAN'T replace / fix cells hahaha IF the Gov was so assured on EV then they should cover / under write all these issues under common consumer protection law BUT THEY DON'T so what does that tell you???

  • @user-yq1ok4oq2x
    @user-yq1ok4oq2x2 күн бұрын

    Nobody will buy a second hand EV they have no resale value.

  • @VictorMaxol

    @VictorMaxol

    Күн бұрын

    It's like buying a half ton battery that won't hold a charge.

  • @andytunnicliffe7223

    @andytunnicliffe7223

    Күн бұрын

    @@VictorMaxolObviously writing from experience.

  • @VictorMaxol

    @VictorMaxol

    Күн бұрын

    @@andytunnicliffe7223 Thankfully not my own.

  • @andytunnicliffe7223

    @andytunnicliffe7223

    Күн бұрын

    @@VictorMaxol then probably best not to take too much notice of the luddites.

  • @VictorMaxol

    @VictorMaxol

    Күн бұрын

    @@andytunnicliffe7223 EV worth depends on lifestyle, terrific for the right type of urban use.

  • @rudithedog7534
    @rudithedog7534Күн бұрын

    My 20 year old petrol car works fine 170,000 km on the clock, why should I get myself into debt for an electric car ???

  • @Allonmor
    @Allonmor2 күн бұрын

    Imagine spending 50k on a new Tesla and weeks later they cut them by 5k.. Certain car reviewers overlook all the cons here, and there are many.. Don’t be a mug, don’t buy an ev.

  • @Joe-ud2hb

    @Joe-ud2hb

    Күн бұрын

    I've an EV that cost €37k for 2 yrs covered 140k kms,no problems with it,drives like the first day,has saved me €4k /year, had 450km range new, has 435 now, not looking to trade I'll put another 150 on it pg by which time savings will be circa €20k - even if I get 0 for it at that stage I've driven 4yrs for 17k. Not too bad for a Mug 😮

  • @pattysmyth3210

    @pattysmyth3210

    Күн бұрын

    Buy one at over 100k and year later worth 15k, no dealer wants to take them in again, dont be fooled people

  • @pattysmyth3210

    @pattysmyth3210

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@Joe-ud2hbwe believe you joe😂

  • @Joe-ud2hb

    @Joe-ud2hb

    Күн бұрын

    @pattysmyth3210 if you've got 100k to spend on a car who cares bout depreciation 🙂

  • @lukekinsella6348

    @lukekinsella6348

    22 сағат бұрын

    ​@@Joe-ud2hb you really sound like a mug doh I bought a ev for 37k and my range 😂😂 ok victoria Beckham we get it you have money 😂😂

  • @byrne1916
    @byrne19162 күн бұрын

    The batteries aren't modular so you can replace the cells as they fail, instead they're sown shut so they can write the whole car off..... yeah no thanks

  • @eddieomahony507
    @eddieomahony5072 күн бұрын

    She is advertising for goverment

  • @obk1404
    @obk14042 күн бұрын

    I would imagine the phasing out of the large BIK benefits for company electric cars is contributing to this fall in sales. Most of the people I know with EV's are company car drivers and any inconvenience that an EV might bring was well offset by personal tax savings. Once those savings are gone then many will switch back to diesel cars

  • @WayneCarolan

    @WayneCarolan

    Күн бұрын

    You’re right, most contracts are 3-4 years too via a fleet company. Commercial vehicles are back to 4 seats max and are applicable to 8% of original market value. It’s pure greed and makes no sense.

  • @user-yq1ok4oq2x
    @user-yq1ok4oq2x2 күн бұрын

    They loose power over time like all batteries.

  • @imnisoisialta

    @imnisoisialta

    2 күн бұрын

    Not exactly. Yes, they lose a small percentage over time but it's not comparable to phone or laptop batteries. Heat is the enemy of batteries and there is a battery thermal management system in electric cars to maintain and cool the battery temperature to the optimal range. Most other applications don't have this, hence the far greater degradation. In electric cars it will degrade the most in the first year, usually less than 5%. It will taper off significantly after this, common to have electric cars with a few 100K miles with overall degradation around 10%. There was an issue with the first electric cars needing new batteries and higher degradation after a period of time, this was because there was no battery cooling system for example in the first gen Nissan Leafs. Cars needing new batteries now is rather rare.

  • @stealthirl

    @stealthirl

    2 күн бұрын

    @@imnisoisialta stop speaking sense here, it’s for posting anti EV propaganda or FUD.

  • @Brian-om2hh

    @Brian-om2hh

    Сағат бұрын

    There is only one letter O in lose.......

  • @Greggy0
    @Greggy02 күн бұрын

    Put solar panels on every roof in the country thst wants them. Would have a better impact on the environment.

  • @Art-is-craft

    @Art-is-craft

    Күн бұрын

    No. Solar cells are useless in Ireland.

  • @Richard1A2B
    @Richard1A2B2 күн бұрын

    Who wants to buy a second hand car that will need a €15k battery after 8 - 10 years. So you can't sell them.

  • @mikeirwin9985

    @mikeirwin9985

    2 күн бұрын

    Propably the biggest issue at the moment.

  • @stealthirl

    @stealthirl

    2 күн бұрын

    My 10 year old EV still going strong after over 100k on it’s original battery along with plenty of others

  • @jaqian

    @jaqian

    2 күн бұрын

    @@stealthirl But once the battery goes, the car is finished as too expensive to replace.

  • @Art-is-craft

    @Art-is-craft

    Күн бұрын

    The batteries cost a lot more than €15000 to replace.

  • @Richard1A2B

    @Richard1A2B

    Күн бұрын

    @stealthirl I am pleased to hear that, but 100,000 km is nothing for a car of 10 years old. Most cars that age would be approaching 200,000 km. That said the battery is out of guarantee at 10 years and costs more than replacing a petrol engine, who ever has to replace their whole engine. Not worth the risk. Better to wait 20 years and see what the trend looks like before taking the risk.

  • @TruePatriotfreedomfront
    @TruePatriotfreedomfront2 күн бұрын

    Who has 20 to 30 thousand euros for a new EV battery and not much EV mechanics and who has thousands of euros to get the car fixed when it's parts starting to go

  • @liamw8847
    @liamw88472 күн бұрын

    The problem with ev cars for me is, when you buy a BMW Petrol or Diesel for example, it has a BMW engine, gearbox etc. When you buy an ev, it’s not a true BMW. It’s essentially the shell of a beamer with a golf buggy power train under the bonnet.

  • @aidanbrennan7389
    @aidanbrennan73892 күн бұрын

    Depreciation of an electric car over three years can be as much as 50 %. Not a great investment!

  • @Brian-om2hh

    @Brian-om2hh

    Сағат бұрын

    You'll find most ICE cars also have 50% depreciation over 3 years....

  • @josephbrophy8113
    @josephbrophy81132 күн бұрын

    There's no such thing as a grant because it's just added in to the price and the deducted 😮😮

  • @HH-jq2gx
    @HH-jq2gxКүн бұрын

    All new cars cost significantly more than a few years ago. So why should people give their money to these companies. Then there’s the tax. It’s nuts.

  • @johnfrancis4401
    @johnfrancis44012 күн бұрын

    The cost of a BYD is almost twice in Europe compared to China. Is that called dumping - when the profit margin is huge in Europe and negligible in China?

  • @Art-is-craft

    @Art-is-craft

    Күн бұрын

    At first it may appear like that but give it a few years and they would flood the market.

  • @ClifftopTragedy
    @ClifftopTragedyКүн бұрын

    If they made sense, people would buy them. I just sold a 12 year old Skoda Superb with 400,000km on the clock. Hardly a days trouble and still driving like new. People were queuing up to buy it but that's a sign of how bad things are going in the country I suppose.

  • @Raptor2607
    @Raptor26072 күн бұрын

    They cut all the charging ports in America for the copper there using Bluetooth chargers now 😂

  • @crztank9298
    @crztank92982 күн бұрын

    Calling early adopters the ones who care about the enviroment is waaaay off the mark. The EV is too expensive, they have no range, and they are not reliable long term. On top of that, they take waaaaay more energy to manufacture and take about 7 years to break even co2

  • @AlamedanBreezyRep

    @AlamedanBreezyRep

    2 күн бұрын

    I'm sure some of the earlier adopters are environmentally conscious(not enough to live without a car though) or like to signal that they're environmentally conscious.

  • @stealthirl

    @stealthirl

    2 күн бұрын

    I was an early adopter, it was to save costs. My used EV was less then half the cost to run compared to the diesel I had. I bout my first new car with the saved money. Another EV that still costs me less then half the cost of an ICE

  • @Art-is-craft

    @Art-is-craft

    Күн бұрын

    @@AlamedanBreezyRep None of them are environmentally conscious. They are in love with the idea but that is not the same.

  • @tonybroderick4808
    @tonybroderick48082 күн бұрын

    Cos they take too long to charge up.

  • @darrendelaney2127
    @darrendelaney2127Күн бұрын

    Drove one for around a year. Loved the tech, the power. I didn’t feel poor infrastructure was a deal breaker, but had a small few inconveniences with chargers. It seems to me that EV depreciation is felt by the consumer mostly. Main dealers have some neck on them selling 3 year old vehicles at just a few grand less than new. I’ll hold off and drive my Toyota diesel for another 300k thank you very much

  • @theeggtimertictic1136
    @theeggtimertictic11362 күн бұрын

    4:11 Did you hear the woman on liveline last week? Read the small print on that guarantee.

  • @Art-is-craft

    @Art-is-craft

    Күн бұрын

    What did the lady say?

  • @mariannugent3179

    @mariannugent3179

    2 сағат бұрын

    @@Art-is-crafthad a battery problem “a damaged cell within battery” her guarantee did not cover repair cost even though it was within the 8 years. Think it was 3 years old.

  • @Art-is-craft

    @Art-is-craft

    Сағат бұрын

    @@mariannugent3179 Sounds like there is no real guarantee only marketing.

  • @mikapeltokorpi7671
    @mikapeltokorpi7671Күн бұрын

    In recent years Tesla has been casting its batteries to a thick epoxy foam, which renderes repair efforts unfeasible due to the cost and labour. Also, China made Model 3 got 20.8% additional tariff today.

  • @darragh63
    @darragh6322 сағат бұрын

    Our base line electricity production comes produced from fossil fuels. Unless your producing all of your own electricity in house, domestically, your just adding to fossil fuel burning in Ireland through our large power stations.

  • @user-rs4rw6oo3v
    @user-rs4rw6oo3v2 күн бұрын

    Electric cars end up on the back of a truck.

  • @robovac3557

    @robovac3557

    Күн бұрын

    That'd how they all cars are delivered

  • @user-rs4rw6oo3v

    @user-rs4rw6oo3v

    18 сағат бұрын

    @@robovac3557 to salvage!

  • @johnfinnerty4243
    @johnfinnerty4243Күн бұрын

    Certain people in the industry called out exactly what is happening now. Lets clear up the points that this lady is making. 1. She says that components can be used instead of direct replacements. The problem with that is we already have examples of EV's that require components and the companies that manufacture components for EV's have gone out of business which by the way is still happening. These companies sprang up and hoped to ride the gravy train with EV's which hasn't materialised and there are no alternative components. Result: Redundant Car. Watch that space grow. 2. She overeggs the pudding on "misinformation". A lot of what is in the public domain is true. There are desperate attempts by the industry now to save, what is a sinking ship. 3. How reliable the batteries are we just don't know. The time frame is simply too short to measure reliability. The "odd one" going here and there is not really grounds for dispelling peoples concerns. In actual fact Ive seen several mechanics highlight how this has potentially a huge concern going forward. (The lack of certainty concerning battery longevity) Perhaps this is something that they have established from their early appraisals. 4. She is right on the infrastructure. Result: "Range anxiety" will be enough to keep people from the showrooms. 5. There are quite a number of garages that have stopped taking trade ins. This is a tidal wave which may only get stronger! Yes purchasing vehicles are made on emotions but also on evidence. If your going to shell out 50k for a new EV wouldn't you want some evidence? Not just because it looks sleek with nice curves! At this rate, if this keeps up dealerships wont be able to give them away!

  • @user-rc4qh3lp7h
    @user-rc4qh3lp7h2 күн бұрын

    This motoring journalist is generally well informed. However from listening to her on a number of occasions there is a serious disconnect between the realities of EV ownership and her insight of how the EV market will develop. There are a lot of unqualified assumptions being made while counter evidence is being ignored. She would do well to consider if she has an EV bias that could be jeopardising her journalistic integrity.

  • @richboy900
    @richboy9002 күн бұрын

    EVs only make sense if you have a home charger and you only tootle around a city like Dublin. Even then, the infrastructure isn't really there

  • @buddy1155

    @buddy1155

    2 күн бұрын

    EVs have a 300 or 400 km range, don't know what insane large cities Ireland has.

  • @stealthirl

    @stealthirl

    2 күн бұрын

    I managed fine to get all over Ireland in my old EV and the new one has 3 times the range.

  • @adamhunt5139
    @adamhunt51392 күн бұрын

    Are you having a laugh since when is 16000km a lifetime of a car most old cars easy get 200000 miles saving the environment lol

  • @jaqian

    @jaqian

    2 күн бұрын

    @@adamhunt5139 My car is 165km and still going strong (not an EV)

  • @HobTecCars
    @HobTecCars2 күн бұрын

    Essentially its a multi faceted problem. 1. China owns the EV game, EU tariffs are delaying the inevitable. BYD's new Romanian factory will circumvent tariffs. 2. Depreciation of the asset. A 2023 VW 1D4 on average dropped 52% in value last year. 3. Charging infrastructure in Ireland is poor. 4. EVs suit urban dwellers, rural Ireland not so much. 5. Longevity. 2010 Nissan Leaf EVs are worth €3000 and are essentially scrap, dealers can't shift them. A 2010 Toyota petrol/diesel is worth €5000 and will drive for another 20 years.

  • @markhall5776
    @markhall57762 күн бұрын

    Rip off Ireland , cheap chinese EVs that are prone to catching fire , disguised as top tier vehicles . What about the 60 Electric bus's that have no charging stations bought by Gov . Costing The Tax Payer millions . Plus Hydrogen vehicles will be better .

  • @davidkavanagh189

    @davidkavanagh189

    2 күн бұрын

    Hydrogen vehicles ain't gonna happen in your wildest dreams. The stuff is WAY too difficult and dangerous to handle to be remotely viable for everyday use.

  • @markhall5776

    @markhall5776

    2 күн бұрын

    @@davidkavanagh189 ahahaha ! Just shows you have not done your homework . Companies already making leaps in hydrogen safe cells hydrogen on a disc . Plus its already been proven . Tesla already looking at this .

  • @davidkavanagh189

    @davidkavanagh189

    2 күн бұрын

    @@markhall5776 You haven't done your homework mate. Manufactures have been 'looking at this' for decades now. Ain't gonna happen but keep dreaming by all means. Hydrogen is difficult and dangerous to store, requiring perfect maintenance of equipment to remain safe. Even more limitations and issues that any electric car could even dream of.

  • @markhall5776

    @markhall5776

    2 күн бұрын

    @@davidkavanagh189 many HHO systems have Hydrogen on demand where it only produces upon demand , these products are already on sale . Your dreaming and I'm not your mate .

  • @davidkavanagh189

    @davidkavanagh189

    2 күн бұрын

    @@markhall5776 What happens to the hydrogen stored in the car if you don't drive for a few days? Look that up and get back to me. The hydrogen system in the car will have to be meticulously maintained in order to be safe. Meticulous maintenance does not lend itself well to personal car use.

  • @richbrice3299
    @richbrice329922 сағат бұрын

    These people don't live in the real world. I have several cars, all older than 9 years and I expect them to last 20 years at the minimum.

  • @davidmehlhorn726
    @davidmehlhorn726Күн бұрын

    Too expensive to begin with, depreciation is massive compared with ICE cars, their "range" is a joke and unachievable, take too long to recharge, using heating/Air con reduces battery charge, batteries degrade over time, etc etc. I changed my car last January and the salesman was almost begging me to look at the EV models he had but I was adamant I wanted a petrol car to replace my 14 year old diesel. He admitted that without fleet sales, no one wanted an EV and subsequent sales figures released this year have substantiated that. I know the truth hurts EV driver's feelings but they fell for the massive con job that EVs are and the three people I personally know who did buy and EV have all taken the hit and gone back to petrol/diesel.

  • @hughofIreland
    @hughofIreland12 сағат бұрын

    Another very impressive interview. Thanks for posting.

  • @Yawellsham
    @Yawellsham2 күн бұрын

    Damn the bicycle! We want horses!

  • @theeggtimertictic1136

    @theeggtimertictic1136

    2 күн бұрын

    No comparison to the EV situation whatsoever.

  • @DonnK-rc4im

    @DonnK-rc4im

    2 күн бұрын

    ​@theeggtimertictic1136 it does if you're a real human

  • @johnnyboy4711
    @johnnyboy47112 күн бұрын

    Because noone can whip 50k from down the back if the couch,jesus wept are these people living in the real world

  • @Art-is-craft

    @Art-is-craft

    Күн бұрын

    No the political class live in a make believe world. They love to talk about facts but will not listen to them.

  • @christopherbyrne18
    @christopherbyrne18Күн бұрын

    Overpriced, no charging infrastructure. Overpriced charging costs. Massive depreciation, can't trade them in. Endless hours spent sitting at chargers. Too slow to charge & too short a range once you decide to use heating, AC or drive on a motorway. Avoid, avoid, avoid

  • @softwaretechnologyengineering
    @softwaretechnologyengineeringКүн бұрын

    8 Years the life time of the car? Mine is over 14 years at this stage.

  • @gerryheery1388

    @gerryheery1388

    Күн бұрын

    i feel sorry for you does it have a heater. EV is the future man

  • @softwaretechnologyengineering

    @softwaretechnologyengineering

    2 сағат бұрын

    @@gerryheery1388 Not only does it have a heater Gerry, but I can drive the same distance regardless of whether it's turned on or not.

  • @brendanjburns2969
    @brendanjburns2969Күн бұрын

    Just to add , the cars are brilliant the tech is brilliant, but the government are so slow at rolling out the infrastructure

  • @TrevorLittle-em8mg
    @TrevorLittle-em8mg51 минут бұрын

    Have you looked at your electricity bill lately, cannot afford to put the LED light on at night.

  • @JonnM
    @JonnM2 күн бұрын

    Ger is being somewhat disingenuous here. Charging infrastructure is part of the issue, but not the major issue. There are several other more significant issues such as, diminishing range with each passing year, a small and declining second hand market, price, home charging only suitable for those with driveways, questionable environmental evidence. I’ve no doubt the EVs , with technical improvements, will eventually capture a significant share of market, but in 30 years, not in 6 years.

  • @clinger007ringer-xu2ir

    @clinger007ringer-xu2ir

    2 күн бұрын

    Also, in cold weather, charging time increases greatly and battery performance decreases, very cold weather can damage the battery.

  • @pajomad1
    @pajomad12 күн бұрын

    Because they aren't silly. It takes more energy to move a 2.5t electric car than a 1.5 ice.

  • @givemeabreak8784
    @givemeabreak878423 сағат бұрын

    They burn and insurance is high and going to go up. It's a ticking bomb !!

  • @Brian-om2hh

    @Brian-om2hh

    Сағат бұрын

    I'm guessing you were not aware that around 300 petrol and diesel cars catch fire each *day* in Britain? Which EV did you own that had "high" insurance?

  • @RedRupert64
    @RedRupert64Күн бұрын

    Protecting your market will mever work long-term. It weakens your home producers, then they can't compete in the future. It's what has happened to Harley Davidson in America.

  • @user-gf5ob2bw5j
    @user-gf5ob2bw5jКүн бұрын

    I enjoy driving. The visceral experience. I don't want a golf caddy

  • @justagearofwar
    @justagearofwar2 күн бұрын

    it's a show of wealth for rich people.

  • @gerryheery1388

    @gerryheery1388

    Күн бұрын

    take your silly head out of the sand you can buy an EV cheaper then a lot of petrol or diesel cars and it costs far less to run it.

  • @zoethepom357

    @zoethepom357

    19 сағат бұрын

    @@gerryheery1388 big head lets see how you feel when you run someone over in your silent shed on wheels and your battery dies and you get a bill to replace it lol see whos laughing then big head

  • @ShelbybossV8
    @ShelbybossV8Күн бұрын

    A shelf life of 8 year's for an EV!! I have a 15yr old Toyota & it ain't stopping anytime soon.

  • @philiplindley7384
    @philiplindley7384Күн бұрын

    An EV that lasts 10 years is an oddity. Over 50% of cars, even in the USA, are over 10 years old. That's a circle you can't square. That's basically denying a car to half the population of *every* country.

  • @stevezodiac491

    @stevezodiac491

    2 сағат бұрын

    I have a 16 year old Mercedes E Clas Diesel with 650 miles range still, A 20 year old Mazda MX5 in perfect workingborder and an EV with 42% battery degradation after 8 years and only 40 k miles. Guess what I won't buy in the future ?

  • @martinmcdonald4207
    @martinmcdonald42072 күн бұрын

    Hybrid is the present and the future. Electric motors working with new tech clean combustion engines are just as clean and more practical than all electric cars. The car industry is watching that space with a very keen eye.

  • @Yawellsham

    @Yawellsham

    2 күн бұрын

    Hybrids are equally pointless

  • @martinmcdonald4207

    @martinmcdonald4207

    2 күн бұрын

    @@Yawellsham You must live in a traffic free world. Hybrids don't put out toxic omissions in slow and non moving traffic. Hybrids are the practical balance between EV's and combustion only power.

  • @DonnK-rc4im

    @DonnK-rc4im

    2 күн бұрын

    @martinmcdonald4207 Look into brake dust vs diesel particulates and get back to me.

  • @crztank9298

    @crztank9298

    2 күн бұрын

    @DonnK-rc4im hybrids and evs don't emit alot of brake dust if this is your insinuation. In fact the regenerative braking is so effective, most ev and hybrid owners replace brake discs at higher rates than normal ICE cars because the rotors corrode through lack of use.

  • @mcarpenter2917

    @mcarpenter2917

    2 күн бұрын

    @@DonnK-rc4im You don't have brake pads on your diesel?

  • @mikemcandrew9585
    @mikemcandrew95852 күн бұрын

    EVs... lemons... News talk your woke radio station...

  • @stephendoherty9855
    @stephendoherty985516 сағат бұрын

    i am scared of evs too. why can't everything be like the 70s?

  • @cplcummins
    @cplcummins2 күн бұрын

    2nd hand sales..replace batteries cost..list goes on.. Never buy version 1 of anything..

  • @bwarey52

    @bwarey52

    Күн бұрын

    Have you had to replace your battery on your EV?..... you do realise they have on average an 8 year warranty so 95% of EVs on the road are still within the warranty period

  • @paulmcmahon8945
    @paulmcmahon894519 сағат бұрын

    I would likely do most of my charging at home. I won't be buying an ev because they are too expensive. I could get one on higher purchase. But I'm not interested in hanging the weight around my neck for a car.

  • @liamdownes-yq2gx
    @liamdownes-yq2gx2 күн бұрын

    Cant believe there are 10,700 new EVs sold this year. I am on the roads daily and see. very few of them.

  • @karlhulme8014

    @karlhulme8014

    Күн бұрын

    Ah, but do they actually mean sold or do they mean registered ?

  • @joehoran1437
    @joehoran1437Күн бұрын

    Batteries warrantied up to 160k kilometres..........my Avensis D4D has done 386,000 kms and still going strong.

  • @gerryheery1388

    @gerryheery1388

    Күн бұрын

    was your avensis warrantied for 386,000

  • @phototac9287
    @phototac9287Күн бұрын

    Ice cream is nearly as expensive nowadays 😂😂😂 than a gallon of gas or by the litre if you live in Ireland.

  • @liamo6889
    @liamo6889Күн бұрын

    No infrastructure Horrible re sale value due to battery's stop working like phones. Also they are too expensive unless you get it through work.

  • @jonesy1328
    @jonesy132823 сағат бұрын

    roadspace reallocation is not a 'stick' and giving more space to people to travel in more efficient ways is popular in Dublin....obviously not by the loud minority.

  • @ihsanpenny9945
    @ihsanpenny99452 күн бұрын

    2010 bmw can get down to Cork on 20 quid of diesel. Can't beat it

  • @stealthirl

    @stealthirl

    2 күн бұрын

    I can do it for about €6 of electricity 😊

  • @ihsanpenny9945

    @ihsanpenny9945

    2 күн бұрын

    @stealthirl but I can do it sny time, don't need to wait for charge

  • @stealthirl

    @stealthirl

    2 күн бұрын

    @@ihsanpenny9945 yup anytime of the year. if I’m going further then 300km I’d need to charge for 30-40 min and I’d have another 300ish km. even in an Ice I’d be stopping after 300km for a toilet break and a bit of a break to stretch the legs or have food. I don’t know anyone who’d do 600km in one go

  • @stealthirl

    @stealthirl

    2 күн бұрын

    @@ihsanpenny9945 for reference cork is 245km for me and would actually cost less then €6. Iv done it a few times in about 3 hours. In my old EV it was about 5 hours but it only had about 100km range in winter so I’d charge 2 or 3 times but back then it was Free to charge

  • @ihsanpenny9945

    @ihsanpenny9945

    2 күн бұрын

    @stealthirl lol. Fair point there re toilet break, can't argue with that

  • @Gayasshunk1923
    @Gayasshunk19232 күн бұрын

    Ger is looking tidy in the thumbnail.😊

  • @dmcracing
    @dmcracingКүн бұрын

    Remove vrt if they want to sell

  • @TruePatriotfreedomfront
    @TruePatriotfreedomfront2 күн бұрын

    Ask your self why are the political establishment and all politicians not driving around in EV'S, why are the green party politicians not driving around in EV'S and big corporates CEO'S and this very person that is trying to sell it to the public for the establishment and co NGO'S 🤔

  • @Chocolate_teapot420
    @Chocolate_teapot4202 күн бұрын

    Can someone please provide a source for this “no emissions reduction” claim about EV’s? Every review that I’ve seen in the literature shows a reduction in emissions. Can someone send me some papers?

  • @markstanfordmusic

    @markstanfordmusic

    Күн бұрын

    Every EV has a fossil fuel behind it. The EV chargers don't get their energy from thin air!! Lol.

  • @Chocolate_teapot420

    @Chocolate_teapot420

    Күн бұрын

    @@markstanfordmusic They get their energy from the grid. Which is a mix of energy sources. As opposed to ICE which are pure fossil fuel. This leads to lower emissions from the ev fleet.

  • @MrTAYTO1
    @MrTAYTO12 күн бұрын

    ev's weren't the full answer , needs to be a combination of all, over time petrol and diesel will be replaced with manufactured fuel, its already staring with additives in these fuels. ev's problems are not just the high price which is mad price, but range, if you don't go far ,then can work if you don't need to use charging network which is poor at best. If I drove from Kerry to Dublin, how many times would I have to charge. would the charging be accoupled or even working as seems the information on apps for ev's is also problem . if in middle of no where, where is charge point. then there the down time waiting for a charger to become free to use and if a line of people waiting .no point pushing the ev agenda when no proper services in place. Then the government with cabbage party decide to cut grants. the government made a balls of it and still are. ev tech is still in early days and will take at least another 5 to 10 years to get it where it needs to be. battery tech is no where ,where it needs to be. that woman you have on its talking up ev's and to honest , i wouldn't trust what she says as she not not given a balance view ,only pushing ev's. again, ev's are not the answer in current form, the next tech hopefully will be .its price of ev, its range of ev, its trade in price and some won't even take in ev as trade in .

  • @zoethepom357
    @zoethepom35719 сағат бұрын

    the 1% who can afford them have already bought theirs the rest of will have stay with what we have, hard luck

  • @emeidocathail7808
    @emeidocathail78082 сағат бұрын

    Chronic infrastructure, crippling resale value, spontaneous combustion and the reality is the majority of car manufacturers are quietly moving away from EV R&D and refocusing on more efficient combustion anf hydrogen fuel cell tech. EV was never going to be a long term option.

  • @JanetteIreland
    @JanetteIrelandКүн бұрын

    May be there too Expensive or people have other Priorities.

  • @BillLaBrie
    @BillLaBrieКүн бұрын

    I think it’s because alcoholism is no longer as much of a problem….

  • @martinsoelby5902
    @martinsoelby590223 сағат бұрын

    You can´t push a rope. I the costumer either can´t afford it of want they wont buy it.

  • @toysofarkham
    @toysofarkham2 күн бұрын

    Because once the car manufacturer's warranty expires (usually after three years), garages other than main dealers a rerluctant to underwrite them given how expensive they are to repair... eg a minor accident results in a car being deemed a fire hazard and uneconomical to repair... The result is that the electric cars depreciate rapidly unless you go back to the main dealer... but you are then at the mercy of the main dealer... plus the green climate story that everyone has been sold is nonsense... not to mention the lack of charge points... battery anxiety

  • @johnlesoudeur3653
    @johnlesoudeur365321 сағат бұрын

    The only reason for the sales are for tax benefits.

  • @Rayk76
    @Rayk762 күн бұрын

    A diesel, hybrid, or petrol engined car will outlast an EV FACT, the cost of ev's is an abseloute joke, battery lasts only 150,000 miles in comparison to comparable ice vehicles thatll do double that

  • @Joe-ud2hb

    @Joe-ud2hb

    Күн бұрын

    So you're saying all diesels do 300k miles 😅😅

  • @shaneoreilly8464
    @shaneoreilly8464Күн бұрын

    id buy a Tesla if they were more affordable. get rid of the VAT if they really wanted us to change over

  • @user-ox8ui7zm7j
    @user-ox8ui7zm7j2 күн бұрын

    Who in their right mind is going to buy a second hand ev?!!

  • @bkingofbeers
    @bkingofbeersКүн бұрын

    😂😂😂 knew this would be a joke of a discussion.

  • @thomasreilly6362
    @thomasreilly63629 сағат бұрын

    A small little island like Ireland is perfect for EV but like everything, Ireland cannot do infrastructure. Rail, internet, commuters infrastructure etc. Years behind the rest of Europe. Ireland is the only developed country in Europe with no metro/rail link to the capital from the airport. The fossil fuel industry has the government in its pocket.

  • @Halotest100
    @Halotest10021 сағат бұрын

    My neighbours daughter had to replace the invertor in a Nissan Leaf, it cost €2,500. If the battery needed to be replaced too it would have been €12,000. This is an entry level electric car. Then you have the tyres as EV's are much heavier they go through tyres a lot quicker. They are just not worth it.

  • @pfauniversal1890
    @pfauniversal1890Күн бұрын

    No more premium payment Will be made by this account to KZread due to cencership of our agents comments

  • @emmetkeenan8224
    @emmetkeenan8224Күн бұрын

    "people into the environment". Cobalt, lithium, 3t weight, twice the tyre ware, limited lifespan. Absolutely not for the environment.

  • @JulieRabbitt-mj6wb
    @JulieRabbitt-mj6wb2 күн бұрын

    Who has the money to buy one only people with money that's y

  • @danwebb4418
    @danwebb44182 күн бұрын

    Eamon Ryan not a great car salesman..

  • @VictorMaxol

    @VictorMaxol

    2 күн бұрын

    He's doing a better job than Honda Ireland, one car sold in June 2024. A Jazz, if you were curious.

  • @articledimension-im6ij
    @articledimension-im6ij2 күн бұрын

    Noone trusts them or wants to pull over for 3 hours to charge them. You cant sell them second hand .

  • @davidroseitg

    @davidroseitg

    2 күн бұрын

    @@articledimension-im6ij it takes me 26 mins to charge from 10 to 85 percent, most days I charge at home overnight v cheap, it's great

  • @VictorMaxol

    @VictorMaxol

    2 күн бұрын

    @@davidroseitg Depends on lifestyle.

  • @LorraineConaty
    @LorraineConaty20 сағат бұрын

    They are too expensive.