Why Ant-Man: Quantumania FAILED...But it's Actually GREAT

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  • @MusicLover-my6fo
    @MusicLover-my6fo4 ай бұрын

    Another full circle moment that Quantumania brings to the trilogy is the inclusion of Kang being the main antagonist in the first place. Kang says to Scott that he's "Just a man." then Cassie reiterates in her speech that Kang's "not invincible" that's important because in the first Ant-Man film Hank says, " In the right hands the relationship between man and suit is symbiotic; the suit has the power the man harnesses that power." Both Scott and Kang are just men with suits that have incredible power. But Scott defeats Kang by harnessing the strength of man and not his suit. It's a small detail, but it goes a long way.

  • @natereath4966

    @natereath4966

    4 ай бұрын

    Huh, it's a little like iron man 3 in that way.

  • @brilliantjustice2024

    @brilliantjustice2024

    4 ай бұрын

    # 1 Underated comment!

  • @EnderHero

    @EnderHero

    4 ай бұрын

    @@natereath4966 true

  • @jpro9522

    @jpro9522

    4 ай бұрын

    Wow good eye man, I would have never caught that!

  • @joshuacrisanto7419

    @joshuacrisanto7419

    4 ай бұрын

    i didn't hate on this movie, but i didn't expect this kind of "brilliance" in writing in it. thanks for sharing your observation, i just liked it more now. gotta have to watch the trilogy again soon

  • @alexpiscopo2696
    @alexpiscopo26964 ай бұрын

    I feel like when Kang was wondering who scott was he didn't realize it was ant man but as soon as he sees Hank, Kang looks as if he knows exactly who Hank is

  • @indo-crypto3903

    @indo-crypto3903

    4 ай бұрын

    Good catch. Hank is the OG Antman!

  • @brilliantjustice2024

    @brilliantjustice2024

    4 ай бұрын

    Probably fought a different version on Hank and the Avengers in another timeline

  • @7Fatguy

    @7Fatguy

    3 ай бұрын

    He knew exactly who Scott was. He was just patronizing him and playing on his insecurities about being a lesser known Avenger, which is a major theme throughout the movie. He even refers to him as Antman near the end of that scene without being told lol

  • @TheTraubenstein
    @TheTraubenstein4 ай бұрын

    Like most Marvel and DC Films, It was fun. People take the movies way too seriously. Just watch the movie and have a good time! Not everything has to be Dark Knight or Winter Soldier.

  • @willsherman4044

    @willsherman4044

    4 ай бұрын

    Absolutely, The audience forgets why we even go to movies in the first place. To escape and enjoy they don’t always have to be the political thrillers as long as the good movie with a good story, cast, etc. then I have no problem with it.

  • @MS-pw1kq

    @MS-pw1kq

    4 ай бұрын

    Love this comment.

  • @rogerroger5171

    @rogerroger5171

    4 ай бұрын

    In response to the box office, the domestic take for Antman3Q was one whole million less than the domestic for AM&W. I'm sure it was Marvel's fault that China went into the dumps.

  • @gramajomd

    @gramajomd

    4 ай бұрын

    Everyone wants to be a film critic nowadays

  • @omegaman2846

    @omegaman2846

    4 ай бұрын

    “Not everything has to be Dark Knight or Winter Soldier”; Or Guardians of the Galaxy or Deadpool, or Raimi’s Spider-Man or Blade, or the first Antman movie, or…

  • @kntgaf
    @kntgaf4 ай бұрын

    everyone hates this version of modok is pretending that the comic version is some serious character with depth. He is portrayed as a joke in comics AND tv…

  • @GenerallDRK

    @GenerallDRK

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah i don't get that either. He's literally called M.D.O.R.K by spiderman lol. Dude has always been a joke villain.

  • @cky7765

    @cky7765

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@GenerallDRK incels dude

  • @omegaman2846

    @omegaman2846

    4 ай бұрын

    M.O.D.O.K may not have pathos or anything in the comics, but he is treated like a threat and a leading villain in the comics, not a complete joke with lines like “Look at me, I’m such a dick” he’s the leader of AIM for Gods sake

  • @nailinthefashion

    @nailinthefashion

    4 ай бұрын

    @@omegaman2846it is the narrow minded sycophants who don’t get the joke of “aim is ran by a big floating head” like all the commentary is lost just bc you’re hyperfixated elsewhere lmao I cannot

  • @omegaman2846

    @omegaman2846

    4 ай бұрын

    @@nailinthefashion sure, AIM is taken seriously by the Avengers as an organization. There may be some occasions where they get the piss taken out of them, but what character doesn’t occasionally get made fun of?

  • @Marvelousgamer7697
    @Marvelousgamer76974 ай бұрын

    Hot Take: I don't actually HATE Quantumania. It's not a film I'll be watching again anytime soon, but I don't hate it as much as everyone else.

  • @andrewheath6451

    @andrewheath6451

    4 ай бұрын

    Ive watched it a couple times. Its funny. And bill murray dude.

  • @andrewheath6451

    @andrewheath6451

    4 ай бұрын

    Ok they came to same conclusion as me i rescind

  • @Jay-gq1mo

    @Jay-gq1mo

    4 ай бұрын

    For me Ant-Man 3 sits around Iron Man 2 in my ranking, not the best but certainly not the worst. I really like it

  • @AaronColley

    @AaronColley

    4 ай бұрын

    Warm take

  • @SheriffOutlaw

    @SheriffOutlaw

    4 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Just like most of the MCI Phase IV series and films I probably won't revisit soon but I still hold respect for the stories they presented us to build up to the next big event

  • @johncorvo5520
    @johncorvo55204 ай бұрын

    Thank you. I always liked it. And especially the Type II civilization ants. Antman didn't defeat Kang by himself. He had a LOT of HELP.

  • @insecdroid
    @insecdroid4 ай бұрын

    I never hated this movie. Even the ant scene I actually liked. Makes sense given how strong ants are. And it’s only a temporary defeat.

  • @bobthedopeman7327

    @bobthedopeman7327

    4 ай бұрын

    Seriously. Imo antman barely escaped with his life. Slowing down a single kang variant does need equate to victory.

  • @WawaMarvel

    @WawaMarvel

    4 ай бұрын

    Umm no. Not when he’s presented as killing multiple avengers even Thor. It’s never shown to us is the first mistake. Then he’s defeated in a fist fight with Scott lang. it doesn’t make sense

  • @imma_yg2fr203

    @imma_yg2fr203

    4 ай бұрын

    @@WawaMarveldid you even watch this movie he’s not as powerful in the quantum realm

  • @mladabitanga2677

    @mladabitanga2677

    4 ай бұрын

    You love some socialist ants?

  • @Grimstone

    @Grimstone

    4 ай бұрын

    In the quantum realm, Kang is nowhere near as powerful as he could be. He is restrained by tech issues. The ants were not just bigger, they were evolved and had higher intelligence. This story was to prove that he was a threat, not the Prime Kang or the He who remains (yet/ever). Great movie, but it's bad use of Modok was the only black eye that I had.

  • @king_vision4085
    @king_vision40854 ай бұрын

    I honestly loved this movie. The message to me was it was taking the smallest avenger and proving why he deserves to be an Avenger. Showing how for all of Scott’s life everyone underestimated him or expected him to fail, but here he is taking on an avengers level threat with his family by his side. I loved that message and I walked in without expecting Scott to die at the hands of kang. I don’t think the movie was bad. I think people were glued to their expectations and bashed this movie when their expectations weren’t met.

  • @jagnestormskull3178

    @jagnestormskull3178

    3 ай бұрын

    "I walked in without expecting Scott to die at the hands of kang. I don’t think the movie was bad. I think people were glued to their expectations and bashed this movie when their expectations weren’t met." So much this. I wasn't expecting Scott to die (I don't go in to a solo superhero movie expecting the title character to die, that's just not how the genre works; heroes die in Crisis Crossovers, not solo movies), and I thought it was a great movie. Low bar I'm setting, but it's probably my favorite post-Endgame MCU movie.

  • @timclarkguitar
    @timclarkguitar4 ай бұрын

    I love the ants arc in these three movies!!! The first one they're basically slaves, the second, one gets big and becomes part of the family and helps Scott not get caught by Jimmy woo, then in the 3rd one all these interactions and their new head gear their intellect gets higher, then they go through thousands of years of evolution create a civilisation and all work together to help the ant family. It's actually really emosh if you think about it, inspite of the time they've been creating their civilisation as soon as they could went to help save the antfam, they still remembered or had past down the knowledge of their human family that got them there and still had that connection to hank, also they're all huge intelligent armoured and able to lift 100x times their own weight and there's thousands so...kang who in my opinion 🐜

  • @timclarkguitar

    @timclarkguitar

    4 ай бұрын

    Also scot has always given them names and treated them as individuals and I think they appreciated this

  • @HappyBob701

    @HappyBob701

    4 ай бұрын

    you must be a bot or have no friends

  • @bakedpotato1717

    @bakedpotato1717

    4 ай бұрын

    @@HappyBob701that’s kinda sad you don’t think animals can be friends…

  • @MTMcCoy

    @MTMcCoy

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​@@HappyBob701what a stupid thing to say. Are you quite alright? 😐 Also just so you're aware, anyone accusing others of not having friends is typically projecting - bet you just have a bunch of people that avoid you yourself. 🤭

  • @apeman505

    @apeman505

    4 ай бұрын

    Ohh, nice observation there, I didn't pick up on that.

  • @gnuplusmatt
    @gnuplusmatt4 ай бұрын

    I came out of the theatre having really enjoyed this movie and hyped for what was to come from marvel, and then I went on the internet and was confused

  • @daisyquinn6202

    @daisyquinn6202

    4 ай бұрын

    I had this exact reaction!!

  • @StarsAndAngels

    @StarsAndAngels

    2 ай бұрын

    Same! But I didn't watch the trailer breakdowns and speculation thus could enjoy it despite the Modok cgi! Same thing happened with Dr strange

  • @peterbui3733
    @peterbui37334 ай бұрын

    Them managing to sneak Darren back in as MODOK was really clever way to have MODOK in the MCU.

  • @peterbui3733
    @peterbui37334 ай бұрын

    The scene of the one building embracing the other as it died in its arms made me shed a tear. Like, there was that good action-comedy into a tradegy gut punch that works well as a combo.

  • @Altmetalpunk
    @Altmetalpunk4 ай бұрын

    Honestly, I didn't hate it. It was like a 6 or 7 out of 10 for me. Wasn't amazing but I liked the concepts and the character development. It was just a perfect example of how overworked VFX artists and writers were and explains why they struck and why Marvel's VFX department unionized.

  • @lincolnbeckett8791
    @lincolnbeckett87914 ай бұрын

    Ryan, you BETTER make a video like this for Eternals too! It deserves it more than any Marvel Movie.

  • @GODsoN_8471

    @GODsoN_8471

    3 ай бұрын

    You think it deserves it more than any other MCU film? Is it your favorite?

  • @MusicLover-my6fo
    @MusicLover-my6fo4 ай бұрын

    One of the reasons I like Quantuamnia so much is because I called Darren Cross becoming MODOK and being the secondary antagonist in the film. I also had to be one of 10 people on Earth that knew Ant-Man wasn't going to die in it. I knew there was no way Marvel was going to kill the MVP of the Infinity Saga in his third film outing, they pulled the same trick with Iron Man's burning broken helmet in the trailers for Iron Man 3.

  • @raider_reaper_4194
    @raider_reaper_41944 ай бұрын

    Wait why did people "hate" it? It was a good fun movie like all AntMan movies are

  • @arkitekt1623
    @arkitekt16234 ай бұрын

    Its hated because social media and video sites like youtube have taught people to think that their opinions are worth hearing, and lets be honest, it is way more popular these days to spread negativity...

  • @ChristochatBTW

    @ChristochatBTW

    4 ай бұрын

    Na dude have you seen the hallway scene? That crap is riddled with plot holes and contrivance it's not even funny

  • @DrunkenSocrates

    @DrunkenSocrates

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ChristochatBTWthank the writers for that not the actual cast

  • @arkitekt1623

    @arkitekt1623

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ChristochatBTW thanks for proving my point. 👍

  • @ChristochatBTW

    @ChristochatBTW

    4 ай бұрын

    @arkitekt1623 how did I prove your point thats my opinion that formed. Basically what you're saying is if anyone disagrees with your garbage take they are just proving you right? What are you smoking and where can I get some

  • @ChristochatBTW

    @ChristochatBTW

    4 ай бұрын

    @DrunkenSocrates point still stands, the end product was bad

  • @Maya-Layla
    @Maya-Layla4 ай бұрын

    I just want to know how much time passed before they all got out because at the end of the movie the ant man with the heart and everyone looking at him like he’s a ghost makes me think everyone thought he was dead

  • @MikeTM
    @MikeTM4 ай бұрын

    I actually really liked this movie when I saw it in theaters. I went into it worried that the heist films, that were some of my favorites in the MCU, would be out of their depth. I was actually surprised that even though the surrounding were other worldly it still felt like an Ant Man film with all the heart and humor that I love. Totally underrated

  • @DeloFFF
    @DeloFFF4 ай бұрын

    I appreciate you for trying your best to keep everyone invested in the MCU but idk …..

  • @DrunkenSocrates
    @DrunkenSocrates4 ай бұрын

    They should’ve had kang look stronger in the end fight, and yes I get it the ants were super evolved very fast hence why they beat him. Still doesn’t sit right with me how they just killed him off. He got sucked into the engine core (which should’ve led to a future story down the line) maybe he becomes the beyonder or somehow is able to exit the core which would’ve gave him even more power. The writing was an all time low it really killed the movie in the end imo

  • @andrewheath6451

    @andrewheath6451

    4 ай бұрын

    Theyre cutting him anyways. Be done with kang we wrapped it up. Introduce doom as an effect of loki in the world tree.

  • @DrunkenSocrates

    @DrunkenSocrates

    4 ай бұрын

    @@andrewheath6451 which is valid 100% or if they introduce galactus (after doom or before) They need to build up doom like they did thanos. Throw him in an end credit scene or two before he makes his big screen debut. I’d hate it if he randomly just appears on screen just to barely keep him around.

  • @SimonLYW

    @SimonLYW

    4 ай бұрын

    @@DrunkenSocrateshe’s being put on such a pedestal right now that there’s almost no way he meets the unrealistic expectations when he comes in.

  • @king_vision4085

    @king_vision4085

    4 ай бұрын

    Here’s my problem with that complaint. Remember when Scott one punched a leviathan in endgame? Kang was tanking hits that put down leviathans. And people forget this is a weak version of Kang who could’ve killed Scott and Cassie when he had them trapped with zero effort. If you want to see a fully powered kang watch the Loki show which was his first introduction

  • @GenerallDRK

    @GenerallDRK

    4 ай бұрын

    ABSOLUTELY AGREE. KANG should've bodied the ants, taken half of the resistance out, and taken the lives of Jill, Hank, and Janet before beating Scott senseless.

  • @swimboyfree
    @swimboyfree4 ай бұрын

    If it requires this much explanation, they missed the mark Love your explanations. Love the morals and themes. And they just didn’t deliver a quality, understandable movie that has great impact. Execution did not match intentions

  • @dskillzhtown

    @dskillzhtown

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly. If you have to try to convince people something they didn't like was actually good, then...it wasn't actually good. I get the need to put up content, but come on. Next thing they are going to say is, "Secret Invasion was actually GREAT!"

  • @RaviTeja-rv8eg
    @RaviTeja-rv8eg4 ай бұрын

    Finally climax shot Scott thinking he pushed everyone into problem and then welcome back in background!!

  • @XDeserak
    @XDeserak4 ай бұрын

    Thank you for finally pointing this out, I've been saying for years that the phase 4 films weren't all as bad as people are saying they've just haven't been able to live up to the amount of sheer hype around them. If quantimania had handled Kang the same way Thanos was handled in the the pre infinty war mcu, at least half the criticism would be gone. Hell even if nothing in the film changed, other than people going into the movie having no expectation, the response would have been way better.

  • @GODsoN_8471

    @GODsoN_8471

    3 ай бұрын

    GOTG - 8.8 (if it's phase 4) QM - 5.9 Secret Invasion - 5 Loki 2 - 9.3 Shang Chi - 7.7 (watched this year and was solid across the board).

  • @Phosfit
    @Phosfit4 ай бұрын

    Kang stood in front of 3 of his biggest opposers at the time for maybe 30 seconds and waited for their ant army to approach him. A minute before his enemies stood in front of him, he was evaporating rebels with his weapons. I suppose he forgot he had those lasers???? Writers forced a loss.

  • @1preme4

    @1preme4

    3 ай бұрын

    The ants have extremely advanced exoskeletons and Kang was trying to look like a bad ass, because he has an ego.

  • @GODsoN_8471

    @GODsoN_8471

    3 ай бұрын

    Don't forget that Modok betrayed him and created an opening in the force field that made it easier for the ants. He wasn't beaten by the ants just bombarded by them after beating on Scott Hope came in to save the day. My question is why didn't he just pause time when Janet took the core at the beginning the way he did towards the end after Scott shrunk it down to it's normal size? Plenty of plot holes in this movie to say it was so well written.

  • @NotAGoodUsername360
    @NotAGoodUsername3604 ай бұрын

    I love how "Eh don't worry about that Kang guy" is literally going to be the solution to the Kang problem after Majors was fired. "It's fine, Loki took care of him."

  • @JROtoons
    @JROtoons4 ай бұрын

    The ooze they drink to understand each other is none other than Frank, the guy that got shrunk into a blob and flushed down the toilet in ant-man 1 movie, but hey that's just a theory.

  • @CrisisCarter

    @CrisisCarter

    4 ай бұрын

    A film theory.

  • @Mithrandir39

    @Mithrandir39

    4 ай бұрын

    @@CrisisCarter First thing I thought too. *rofl*

  • @papastokely5993
    @papastokely59934 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂 This video proves just how easy it is to deconstruct and philosophise about any crappy thing! It's as funny as it is irritating. Do "The Room" next! 😂😂😂

  • @jedirayden
    @jedirayden4 ай бұрын

    I actually really enjoyed this movie. The CGI is iffy in places certainly, but the visuals, the imagination behind them and all the points you make in favor of the film rang true with me as well.

  • @catfdljws
    @catfdljws4 ай бұрын

    One big failing as an Ant-Man film (besides Wasp having nothing to do) is the loss of connectivity to his own other "little guys", his X-Con crew. Yeah, they had MODOK and I'm ok with how they incorporated that. But to really close the trilogy, the X-Cons also needed to be involved. So thus it has 2 bits of being incomplete and unsatisafying. By "killing" Kang (though we know he's not dead), it kinda put a big halt on the Multiverse saga's big-bad before he even started (and this would be true even without Majors' personal matters), and then it fails to totally satisfy as an Ant-Man film because 2 factors of what made the prior films work were removed (X-Con) or reduced (Hope/Wasp). That said, I do like it a lot, and it was great to share w/ my now 12 year old kid.

  • @revolt81
    @revolt814 ай бұрын

    I loved it. I think people dont really get comics, and therefore don't really get comic book movies. Marvel has done a brilliant job making a cinematic representation of what the comics are and have always been. A person isnt going to love every single comic book. Some dont sell and have limited runs, but they are still part of a mosaic. In the cinematic version, we have some movies and shows that don't hit for everyone, and that should be okay.

  • @davidchism6081
    @davidchism60814 ай бұрын

    13:52. NOT a Varient of Wilson Fisk mind you.

  • @Dobbythecat123

    @Dobbythecat123

    4 ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @jeffaltier5582
    @jeffaltier55824 ай бұрын

    You made me want to watch this again with the agenda of just enjoying what the movie is and not what it means to the huge saga. Thank you.

  • @AWeekLastTuesday
    @AWeekLastTuesday4 ай бұрын

    I love Quantumania, alot, seen it a number of times, and in fact Love Mordok, like how goofy he was, and was supposed to be. In fact, I grew to really enjoying it and I agree, is my favourite Antman movie.

  • @Byronic19134
    @Byronic191344 ай бұрын

    I saw it release night in iMax 3D and loved it. Came out of theatre totally taken aback by the backlash from it.

  • @Tinkerbe11
    @Tinkerbe114 ай бұрын

    Thanks for making this video! I loved Quantumania. It was so visually stunning, and I don't understand why some people think Kang was easy to defeat. And an 82% audience score (as seen in this video) isn't really that bad either. So 82% of the audience enjoyed it.

  • @dylancampbell5908
    @dylancampbell59084 ай бұрын

    I loved the movie, agree on the kang take and that Darren should have been the main villain, and the idea of giant genius ants is absolutely horrifying and completely believable to me as to why kang was overpowered by them, great video!!

  • @GODsoN_8471

    @GODsoN_8471

    3 ай бұрын

    People omit the fact he was literally stabbed in the back by Darren that damaged his force field giving the giant ants the opening they needed.

  • @muteninjaturtle
    @muteninjaturtle4 ай бұрын

    The "You're so big!" (Said from Scott to Cassie) is a callback to Endgame where Scott sees the older Cassie after the 5 year gap for the first time... that part caught my attention couple nights ago haven't seen anybody mention that one yet.

  • @Velhoall

    @Velhoall

    4 ай бұрын

    Lol, I'd never noticed that! Just rewatched both scenes: "You're so big" vs "You're huge!" -- both in a very emotional hug. Txs a lot for this!

  • @muteninjaturtle

    @muteninjaturtle

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Velhoall i am mute irl so i catch a lot of context that a lot of people miss... but i also miss a lot of stuff that is obvious to others because of tbi... you're welcome and i am glad i am not the only one who found some enjoyment out of it!

  • @Velhoall

    @Velhoall

    4 ай бұрын

    @@muteninjaturtle cool, mate! Getting some "plus" from your "weakness" is a blueprint for so many superheroes origin story, right?

  • @muteninjaturtle

    @muteninjaturtle

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Velhoall yes it is! Probably why i relate to comics so much more than people... but when i can relate/connect to people the most its usually over comics lol

  • @GODsoN_8471

    @GODsoN_8471

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@muteninjaturtlethat's amazing!! It's incredible how our bodies compensate if we are lacking in other areas. My older brother is disabled and he never ceases to amaze me. GOD bless you.

  • @Nico12420
    @Nico124204 ай бұрын

    I think they should have moved Quantumania to May 2023 and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 to October 2023 while The Marvels to April 2024 and since Deadpool 3 is in July 2024 then we have two movies this year too!

  • @OG_Agrivar
    @OG_Agrivar4 ай бұрын

    I loved this movie on opening night, and I've rewatched it 3 or 4 times since it hit Disney+ From the very beginning, I could not understand the hate - other than to just blame the black-pilled internet hate machine.

  • @itskashkashi

    @itskashkashi

    4 ай бұрын

    Wait, what is black pilled?? 👀

  • @itskashkashi

    @itskashkashi

    4 ай бұрын

    Nevermind, I googled it and wish I never asked.

  • @graizur
    @graizur4 ай бұрын

    Now that you've brought my attention back to the live action Rick and Morty movie, specifically the sun harnessing. Have you read Marvel comics Exiles, the crystal castle time bug guys?

  • @thedev-yani
    @thedev-yani4 ай бұрын

    WE NEEDED THIS VIDEO WHILE THE MOVIE WAS IN THEATRES.. I kept arguing this for a year with my friends. No one ever accepts my ant theory.

  • @robertlparker
    @robertlparker4 ай бұрын

    The thing that bugged (ha) me the most about the ant criticisms is, don't we want to see superheroes win by using their unique powers? Shouldn't ANT man win the day because he got help from ants? That's part of the fun of all this, innit?

  • @FancastFanatic
    @FancastFanatic4 ай бұрын

    this movie only got bad after Scott got the engine core for Kang. Everything after that felt half baked, also the rebels weren’t established well enough to care about their final battle

  • @batzxxl
    @batzxxl4 ай бұрын

    The sense of scale was off. One of the things that makes Ant Man movies unique is the size of people and things compared to the normal size of the real world. Several times in the QR it was hard to tell if they were shrunken, normal or giant sized compared to the rest of the environment. They should have done something different with Kang, like maybe have him inside an actual prison inside his base. Like he can use his tech to create and control his empire, but he was physically confined to an enclosed area by his variants using some sort of powerful energy field. So he can't really interact with the environment and personally go out and shoot lasers, but his tech, his army and his minions are able to do the physical heavy lifting for him. That would allow the heroes to find a way to defeat him without having to face him as a true big bad. Instead, they'd just sort of thwart his goals and overthrow his empire in the QR. The end however, should foreshadow that by defeating him, they overlooked something and actually gave Kang a way to escape the QR. That would set up the future slate of events and pay off that gut feeling Scott has at the end where he's questioning whether they actually won.

  • @natereath4966

    @natereath4966

    4 ай бұрын

    Kang controlling a powerful army from far off would also mirror ant man's ability to Comand an army of ants. However, I feel like it would take longer to explain what's happening in that version of the movie and you lose the connection with Janet that was set up in the second movie.

  • @jweezyyy
    @jweezyyy4 ай бұрын

    I honestly didn’t mind the super smart sentient ants at the end, I just wish we would’ve got a good chunk more of them so we could understand them and their motives and what happened to them over the millennia. Would’ve been a lot more believable and just just a random ex machine like we got

  • @apoorvsingh4459
    @apoorvsingh44594 ай бұрын

    A lot of people complained about Kang being beaten by "ant-man", while the entire point of the movie was to not underestimate him and that is the main reason Kang lost. That is very true that Kang is much more powerful than antman, but underestimating him is the biggest mistake an enemy can make, he is an Avenger too after all.

  • @Dave-mk9st
    @Dave-mk9st4 ай бұрын

    Nice try but honestly here's my main problem: the protagonists do not undergo a challenge and then change as a result. Therefore there is no plot just scenes of things

  • @seanbickham1874
    @seanbickham18744 ай бұрын

    The only thing missing from Quantumania was Luis. I think the hate came from Marvel advertising, who Kang would become instead of letting him be a new villain that would become a thorn in everyone's side. The mistake wasn't him being defeated by hyper intelligent ants. The mistake was not showing Kang survive it.

  • @StandAblaze83
    @StandAblaze834 ай бұрын

    I watched it in theaters and it definitely didn’t deserve all the negative publicity it was getting!

  • @Lux210
    @Lux2104 ай бұрын

    Not having Michael Peña do a story recap was the biggest travesty.

  • @Amphiron
    @Amphiron4 ай бұрын

    When I talk about this movie with friends and they cite "bad CGI" as a reason for it being bad, they almost always bring up Modok. But nothing to do with the actual CGI, but the design of Modok. Also most of those people haven't seen what Modok looks like in the comics.

  • @Quirkywatch
    @Quirkywatch4 ай бұрын

    I used to keep a movie journal like that too!

  • @chalkmuted
    @chalkmuted4 ай бұрын

    I agree with so much of the video and appreciate the movie more. However, I still can't get over how inconsistent Kang's powers are. One moment he is levitating around, vaporizing/annihilating people , and can use the force/control gravity. The next he just wants to stay on the ground, knocking people back and hide in a bubble...I get that his powers are only from technology and those ants might have better tech and abilities that can still beat the stronger version of him, but I think they could have done better to show that and stay more consistent.

  • @putzik47
    @putzik474 ай бұрын

    I really liked the movie when I saw it, and was surprised when people started turning against it. I didn't notice anything wrong with the VFX (real life isn't always colorful-- visible light wouldn't be perceptible on a subatomic scale... Neptune isn't really that blue...electron microscope photography shows how weird everything looks on a microscopic level...) I appreciate how you pointed out the thematic unity and hopeful message. It's always welcome in this dumpster fire of a world. No, it's not perfect, but the characters (even MODOK!) were enjoyable, the idea of Kang gets across, and I had a great time. And now, I appreciate it even more. Thank you!

  • @paulzbylut6770
    @paulzbylut67704 ай бұрын

    totally agree, completely underrated! it’s a shame we won’t get another performance of majors as lang for the big screen.

  • @joshmargolis1424
    @joshmargolis14244 ай бұрын

    I felt that Antman was close to embracing those themes, but Scott did remains the same as ending montage shows he didnt learn Cassie's lesson that he needed to be more proactive as an Avenger rather than protecting the status quo (ie Kang and his timeline). Sacrificing himself wouldve been that arc. What was bad about the movie was its CGI action, abundance of side characters, lack of Wasp, reluctance to show Kang until the midpoint, and the underwhelming ending of Wasp defeating him despite zero character arc in the movie (she kills her mother's lover-- what if Wasp was struggling with a similar conflict to her mother regarding her love for Scott).

  • @tcayzer
    @tcayzer4 ай бұрын

    I don't hate this movie, in fact, I enjoyed this movie, very much! I even bought the book, "Watch Out for the Little Guy" because I thought it was an amazing concept. I believe this film was pushed to the back burner and got burnt. So much potential, like you said. I thought Ant-Man was going to die, just like I thought Hawkeye was going to lose his arm in the Disney+ show. But we're talking about perception, and expectations. One day, Marvel will return to it's great story telling time again, and I will be there, Watching!!

  • @aferraro92
    @aferraro924 ай бұрын

    Quantumania WAS a great movie, like so many others in Phase 4 and 5. The issue comes from the fans. Marvel fans have become spoiled since Infinity War and Endgame. And we as a people have become more jaded and cynical. This is the reason Marvel movies struggle now. Sad but true.

  • @ManuelFernandez-ts5eq
    @ManuelFernandez-ts5eq4 ай бұрын

    My take is that the MCU never wanted Kang THE CONQUEROR to be the main baddie of the Saga. They want(ed?) The Council of KangS to be the antagonist of this Phases.

  • @PhilosophyLives
    @PhilosophyLives4 ай бұрын

    I haven't even seen your vid yet SC, but I already love it 😂 Anyone can find flaws in film... it takes little brains and less effort... BUT taking something that struggles and revealing its value and depth... that's creativity (and positivity). I love what you do here on your channel SC and can't wait to watch this vid!

  • @robertmercadoworld
    @robertmercadoworld4 ай бұрын

    The script talked down to me. I felt brain cells dying with every bad joke and bad story telling with Pfeifer.

  • @EricHagmannMusic
    @EricHagmannMusic4 ай бұрын

    Scott is enjoying his celebrity life but Falcon was scrambling for money. 😢

  • @jyeell
    @jyeell4 ай бұрын

    I honnestly like this Ant Man Movie, and I think it really doesn't deserve all that backlash, except the complains about CGI being rushed. That said, I think Quantumania lacks the scale effects we had in previous appearances of Ant Man in the MCU, especially in the first movie : What I liked about Ant Man was the sense of scale, with some scenes that had that miniature effect. And I think it's a shame that they went away from these shot ideas...

  • @RileyN6.21
    @RileyN6.214 ай бұрын

    @ 23:55 "the Wasp" in the title is the OG Wasp - Janet. It's more Hank & Janet's story, b/c Hank helped Cassie build the tech. Not Scott.

  • @smoovenorris
    @smoovenorris4 ай бұрын

    People let the guardians get away with not dying in the 3rd movie so why is it a problem that Scott or his family didn’t die? Oh because the internet cherry-picks everything about the mcu

  • @TomBongJovi

    @TomBongJovi

    4 ай бұрын

    100% this

  • @michaelcamp4990
    @michaelcamp49904 ай бұрын

    This movie gave me bad flashbacks to the final season of Lost. Hey, we have to stop the Man in Black -- a villain we know practically nothing about -- from leaving the island, because if he does, it will destroy the world. But WHY will it destroy the world, you ask? Well... it just will, I guess? And in this movie, we have to stop Kang -- a villain we know practically nothing about -- from leaving the Quantum Realm, because it will destroy the world. But WHY will it destroy the world, you ask? Well... it just will, I guess? Why is it so difficult to just write a villain with clear motivations, and to give the audience a clear sense of the consequences if the villain achieves his or her goals? We're not making experimental art-house cinema here, it's just a superhero movie meant for all audiences.

  • @hoboogre8023
    @hoboogre80234 ай бұрын

    You're right. The idea of giant insects suffers from the reality of the square-cube rule. You square the size/volume, you cube the mass/weight. Glad you called that out.

  • @jacobleroux96
    @jacobleroux964 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video. But the movie trips over it’s own feet too many times to ignore the mistakes

  • @juliomelendez9941
    @juliomelendez99414 ай бұрын

    No lie, I loved this movie!! When I took my son to watch it at the movies, I watched it through without ever going to the bathroom and I've seen it three time on Disney.

  • @splinteredmind4949
    @splinteredmind49494 ай бұрын

    I think in 20 years we may see the same thing happen to the MCU as happened to the Star Wars prequels. There'll be a grand nostalgia wave, maybe a few remakes or upgrades to whatever the latest tech of the day is. Ultimately I think they'll be remembered fondly.

  • @user-hp7in7bp3e
    @user-hp7in7bp3e4 ай бұрын

    The trend of critics chomping at the bit to proclaim each upcoming movie as the downfall of the entire MCU is just getting sad. They are so dependent on viewership for their own platforms that they've decided a movie's fate before they even watch it. Thank you Ryan for being the voice of reason.

  • @TomBongJovi
    @TomBongJovi4 ай бұрын

    I might be the only person that just accepts Marvel shows/movies for what they are and find enjoyment in all of them, i mean except of eternals which i still havent watched yet. Like i absolutely loved She-Hulk, it was really funny meta and subversive. I love the totally new style and tone, its the exact type of episodic show that Marvel lacks, the casual viewer would be able to get into much easier. the CGI looks fine, like she looks like a female hulk, yes people who are green dont look normal, and if you teied painting and actor you wouldnt get the subsurface scatter that cg skin is able to reproduce, ot would look cheap with someone painted. If Secret wars was as it was and wasnt considered "Marvel" it would have been a massive hit for literally any TV or streaming network, the acting and production were pretty top notch. Try findig the good in things and a lot more shows will be good to you

  • @rashida7777
    @rashida77774 ай бұрын

    I loved this movie! WTF do they want? The characters to leap out of comic books and bite their @zzes? They are CHARACTERS and fluid. It's nice to have them look and behave exactly like in the books...but most of it doesn't translate well into a movie. Ex. Nick Fury...I would never have guessed Samuel L Jackson to play such a part...but it worked for me. Enjoy the ride or make your own movie.

  • @fatedcypress9222
    @fatedcypress92223 ай бұрын

    This movie was ridiculously slept on. Sure, some of the CGI was poor. The majority of that CGI was on screen for a second or less; I never noticed it until I saw a video of it slowed down. Like, we’re so insanely spoiled when it comes to visuals that it’s sad. Darren as MODOK was amazing and I loved it. Kang getting beat by a class II civilization of ants that were ALL smarter, more intelligent and much stronger than Kang is NOT something that should surprise us. Then Scott beating a severely powered down version of Kang (he’s literally just a man at that point) is also not surprising. Seriously, this movie is great.

  • @michaeldixon3440
    @michaeldixon34404 ай бұрын

    I’m not a special effects guy either but what I think hurt it the most was the Quantum Realm is 99% CGI. It was wild, alien, and beautiful. But being rushed made the actors look superimposed in so many scenes. Flaws aside I still liked the film.

  • @Fred026
    @Fred0264 ай бұрын

    Personally I love this film!

  • @MarcusSinclair2
    @MarcusSinclair24 ай бұрын

    How much is Disney paying you to shill for this movie?

  • @cky7765

    @cky7765

    4 ай бұрын

    People aren't allowed to have their own opinion? Try again lil 🐱

  • @tuanews
    @tuanews4 ай бұрын

    I LOVE this video. Thank you so much for celebrating the awesome parts of a movie that people have made a game of ganging up on. You’ve given a redemption arc to the incredibly hard work of hundreds of talented people. Huge props, you guys.

  • @jpro9522
    @jpro95224 ай бұрын

    The thing abt the cgi is that it’s good where it needs to be. The visuals of the entire quantum realm are incredible, and I think that’s what matters most.

  • @jtanimeandnerd101
    @jtanimeandnerd1014 ай бұрын

    I don't care what anyone says. I love this movie and will always find the post credit Council of Kang scene as iconic. For Pete's sake, Marvel, just recast. I want Kang to keep going after Kingpin's street level storyline is over. Because im pretty sure the story's pivoting to Kingpin to give them more time to recast Kang.

  • @MatteoCremaBL
    @MatteoCremaBL4 ай бұрын

    spare me man...

  • @taylormadealpha

    @taylormadealpha

    4 ай бұрын

    He did help drag this movie. When the movie could have used this kind of breakdown he simply jumped on the hate train and helped make fun of it. Like last week he was making fun of ants killing Kang lol

  • @joesjoeys
    @joesjoeys4 ай бұрын

    Bill Murray is the direct reason why a lot of your favorite movies did not get sequels. If those sequels would have been good or not, who knows now. It is his fault we didnt get more OG Ghostbusters, even though Harold Ramis wanted to do more. Lastly, I am generally always underwhelmed with Murray's performances, including in Ant-man (even though I like the movie itself)

  • @brandonhall4547
    @brandonhall45474 ай бұрын

    I never agree either any of the opinions on this channel but I still love it. That being said, I disagree. I think it was fine. Not great or memorable. But it wasn’t the disaster others said it was. I enjoyed it for what it was.

  • @ChewyRocksandiscute
    @ChewyRocksandiscute4 ай бұрын

    Just stop already lmao. We all know you just want to stay on Marvel’s good side so you can keep getting early screenings. Embarrassing.

  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush4 ай бұрын

    What did you think of Quantumania?

  • @pholosomofokeng3704

    @pholosomofokeng3704

    4 ай бұрын

    It is a nice movie the cast is good,the visuals good too just the ending the fight kang vs ant-man 🙄😤 Horrible like kang someway he lost which is a scene I skip every time I rewatch the movie

  • @mikegammon1

    @mikegammon1

    4 ай бұрын

    Are you getting paid by disney to talk up these flops? come on dude this movie sucked so bad.

  • @youssefmesrati340

    @youssefmesrati340

    4 ай бұрын

    Here's what I think could've fixed quantumania so just get rid of kang have him be like thanos him sitting on a throne controlling everything and have modok as the main villain but as a general in kang's army just like Ronan the accuser is a top commanrer in thanos army in guardians of the galaxy and I saw some of the rejected concept art for Modok and it looked better than the modok we got in quantumania so i would use one of those rejected concept art and used it for the movie and I would remove the Modok redemption arc now I would continue the trend of a hero losing something in they're 3rd movie maybe modok kills Janet or something and at the end of the movie we will have a scene where a battalion of kang's soldiers report to kang that modok has been defeated but kang just smiles just like Thanos at the end of the avengers movie we can still have the council of kangs mid credits scenes

  • @Static1583

    @Static1583

    4 ай бұрын

    No Luis. 😢

  • @MegaGoaty3895

    @MegaGoaty3895

    4 ай бұрын

    i wasn’t a fan. left the theater unconfident in the future of the mcu

  • @gregoryliedtka7510
    @gregoryliedtka75104 ай бұрын

    I had fun watching this movie, the ants overwhelming Kang was fine. I am one of those people who thought Scott should have died or been stuck in the quantum realm

  • @pr0z00m6
    @pr0z00m64 ай бұрын

    Given different circumstances i think all the phase 5 movies could have been reffined

  • @BaithNa
    @BaithNa4 ай бұрын

    Really scraping the bottom of the barrel for content, huh? This will be a long year for channels like this.

  • @davidm4566

    @davidm4566

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes, they should give an accurate look at the content rather than try to make it look good when it isn't, or find other content to review. I feel for them because it's like like they are on a sinking ship trying to stay afloat.

  • @MallRatsXoXo
    @MallRatsXoXo4 ай бұрын

    ... No, it's not great lol. Like, at all.

  • @thoughtsfromnobody1845
    @thoughtsfromnobody18454 ай бұрын

    It looked amazing, I am mostly hoping they use the tech for more interesting star wars aliens

  • @3sgtecelica
    @3sgtecelica4 ай бұрын

    Never understood the compleaint that Kang "lost" in quantumania. That's kind of who Kang is. He is often losing but just keeps coming back even stronger. This Kang was so terrifying. Ok, he lost, the next one would have been even worse.

  • @Movie_Culture66
    @Movie_Culture664 ай бұрын

    This guy really defends marvel so damm much its actually funny. Like spams videos out on why the mcu isn't dead when it is and that superheroes aren't a genre when it is so how can can it be superheroe fatigue like this guy😂

  • @Static1583

    @Static1583

    4 ай бұрын

    Gotta play both sides if they don’t want to lose viewership 🤷‍♂️

  • @omaurioncouncil564

    @omaurioncouncil564

    4 ай бұрын

    It's just his opinion if you don't like it go find one of those KZreadrs that cry about everything dying this is a positive place

  • @Movie_Culture66

    @Movie_Culture66

    4 ай бұрын

    @omaurioncouncil564 I will thank you very much because they talk facts unlike him who is trying 2 defend it so much its just funny

  • @Movie_Culture66

    @Movie_Culture66

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Static1583 true but he is probably gonna lose more from this vid

  • @omaurioncouncil564

    @omaurioncouncil564

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Movie_Culture66 good I'm so happy for you if you think they are saying facts watch that's the point of KZread find someone who you like and watch and if you don't like it don't watch i don't agree with those KZreadrs I think they are little cry babies vs Ryan who sees the good and the bad or just don't watch he don't yell at the camera and cry but did what makes you happy 👍

  • @sarmamadhavan
    @sarmamadhavan4 ай бұрын

    Nope!

  • @michaelmcchesney6645
    @michaelmcchesney66454 ай бұрын

    What people consider bad CGI today would have been awe-inspiring 25 years ago. There are some movies where the visual effects look so good that they might have made the film worth watching regardless of the story. In 1968, 2001: A Space Odyssey was a film like that. Fifty years later, there was Avatar. Avatar didn't become the highest-grossing movie of all time because of its story. But there have been some very good films that had only mediocre special effects. There was nothing in Quantumania's CGI that looked so bad it took me out of the movie. I didn't have a problem with the CGI in She-Hulk, either. But I haven't actually seen a Hulk that looked completely real since Lou Ferrigno. Maybe it's the uncanny valley, but there is just something about the skin color of a CGI Hulk that just looks animated. But that doesn't mean I couldn't really enjoy some of the movies with Hulk. Skaar didn't look real either, but maybe as time goes by, the CGI will get better. But even if it doesn't, if the story and acting are good, the movie will be good, possibly even great.

  • @motormatt5447
    @motormatt54474 ай бұрын

    Doug the Bear is hilarious 🐻 My gf thought he was an Ewok 😂

  • @8minutesofarc
    @8minutesofarc4 ай бұрын

    I think the problem with the ants is that there's now a group of ridiculously overpowered ants that they can ask for help in future movies, but won't.

  • @Mithrandir39
    @Mithrandir394 ай бұрын

    I could never figure out why there was so much hate for this movie. I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I totally agree it was great. It had a very good villain. It had a great story and the end fight was terrific. Well acted and well directed. Just a good fun Marvel movie.

  • @jazzyj12
    @jazzyj123 ай бұрын

    Marvel/Disney have to rehire Jonathan Majors, he was the best part of the MCU after RDJ left. It doesn’t make sense to let go of a once in a generational talent like Majors over accidentally hurting a finger while defending himself and his property. Bring back Majors and bring back Kang!

  • @bashenga666
    @bashenga6664 ай бұрын

    Doesn't matter how you rationalize it, Kang should not have been defeated in this movie especially if he was being set up as the next Thanos-level threat. Maybe if Marvel hadn't informed us that Kang would be the next Avengers villain, it could've worked. But it's no wonder why people feel let down after seeing him defeated by Antman & friends. Just my opinion

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