Great review. I see many comments about Whoop and this helped me understand what the device has to offer.

I may be wrong but i think Garmin Connect does the same and its free, of course you have to purchase the watch/fitness tracker but these are cheap second hand. Leaving the Whoop on the wrist would cause rash/itchy with sweat and moisture.

I think these look nice but are seriously over priced. If you look at something like the Garmin Forerunner 255 or 265 for roughly the price of the 24 month whoop subscription for something you can use for a good few years if you want. You also have course navigation on your wrist if you want to run various routes and mix it up knowing you can follow it and do a set distance etc. each time and without going off course (hopefully). I agree with you on charging a watch for 90 mins while you are sat at home or in the office isn't losing much data, a bit of recovery and resting HR maybe. I do think this charger idea is probably the best thing about it though so that says it all in my opinion. You say the app is good and I would hope the whoop app is good as it's your only interface and your having to use another piece of even more expensive hardware (your phone) every time you even just want to quickly view any data. I like wearing a watch and although you can check the time on your phone I feel personally if you're going to wear something on your wrist can it at least tell you the time? Not for me I'm afraid, it would have to cost half the price to be worth it in my opinion but I'm sure it has its fans and that's fine.

Hi Mark, great video. You based in Brum?

Great video and an interesting product, it kind of reminds me of the early Fitbits before they had screens. Not sure whether I want to pay a subscription though, I mean for that yearly cost you can get a smartwatch that does far more

@bradleyapps2304

Жыл бұрын

Not as in-depth though unfortunately

Does the whoop work well for those that work a night shift? Or does it think that you’re not sleeping at all during the night?

That subscription fee is just unjustified given that you can get most of that info from a smart watch with no subscription.

@Straight_up_sav

Жыл бұрын

FACTS!!!!

@ITSxHeR0

11 ай бұрын

It’s nice though that you don’t have to purchase a whoop. It comes with the subscription. And when they release a new whoop, you get the next device for free

@huffhuff4110

11 ай бұрын

Negative. I thought the same thing until I got a whoop. It’s amazing. It’s way more pinpoint then a smart watch. And I wear it at night. My smart watch battery life is gone and is plugged in over night. So I can wear it the next day. The whoop is a different game

@dkBybee

11 ай бұрын

Rebuttable: Wearable technology. There is a bicep band and underwear that all help you wear the Whoop in different ways. Sounds very comfortable and usable.

@MrTuttiFrutti

10 ай бұрын

​@@ITSxHeR0 yeah I get it but how often do they release the new version of the band? One per year maybe, and also if you add up the money that you pay a year it becomes quite an expensive band, priced like an Apple watch but without a screen and other expensive hardware it has. I would not be surprised if the price of manufacturing the band itself was a fraction of the Apple watch's manufacturing price. What I'm trying to say is that if they were going to sell the band instead of having this expensive subscription model they couldn't justify the price you end up paying a year because it's a way cheaper hardware than Apple watch and you have to continue paying year by year to be able to use it, while with Apple watch you pay the price but you can use it for years without any additional costs. But I must say that their app gives you way more detailed info and they're good at marketing.

Im going to be honest the charging set up is probably the biggest selling point for me. I hate taking off my garmin and waiting for hours to finish.

@rmcc655

Жыл бұрын

That said. 2-3 days isnt very long

@weswo1f

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100% I hate taking my Fitbit sense off this charging method seems great!

@BestMuscleVideo

Жыл бұрын

How does the whoop charge?

@arnimlost

7 ай бұрын

@@BestMuscleVideo 3:17

@sthardman

5 ай бұрын

Same here. I wish Apple had a magnetic puck you could drop on the Apple Watch to trickle charge during the night

Can’t say I’m tempted if it doesn’t have a screen. I love the feedback of heart rate zones etc as I’m doing a workout.

@obobob3185

7 ай бұрын

You do get that - but through the app. You can start ‘activities” in the app such as running and it will give you a map of your location, heart rate, heart rate zone, pace etc.

Looks like they do 1 month trials now. Just ordered mine, will try it to see what the fuss is all about.

HI Mark, great review in general but can't say I accept your point re: charging. Not sure I see the difference between having to keep track of the unit for charging the Whoop or keeping track of the charger for charging your watch or phone?? Thanks for the review though. Has been useful making a decision.

@Hvmoudi

2 ай бұрын

The charger you keep in the outlet next to your bed. That little charging thing you can use everywhere and therefore you can put it somewhere after using it and forget where you put it.

Thanks for the review. The subscription is a no go

Does it record steps and does it have GPS ?

I would rather pay for the watch, then lock in for a cheap subscription for more details. I have whoop and love it, but still think their subscription model needs a change. They would get a lot more traction if they did, i think.

I am EXACTLY what you said in the negatives section. I have been really curious about this watch, and LOVE the low profile design, but damn, that price is much too high. A trial period might have been good to hook me, if it can prove it’s worth the money, but wow, I can’t justify those prices as a shot in the dark.

The Whoop band isn't recognizing the run, your phone is. Only a few of them on the list recognize an activity by default, though they claim it can "train" itself based on past activities, which means it's a Machine Learning model that you train. It's also not as great as it says. On the train home, it thought I was out for an endurance ride on my road bike, I guess due to speed and HR. The charging thing seems gimmicky, especially because I don't use my watch (Garmin Forerunner 245) when doing active exercise, and put it on the charger during that time. It was annoying in the past syncing workouts with my watch off, but Garmin does that automatically (I have a Garmin HRM-Dual connected to my cycling head unit) as of about a month ago.

@cakujuo

8 ай бұрын

Not true. My whoop started picking up my weight training. I don’t have my phone on me when I lift

Used about a two years, but now after android update it does not connecting with app. Two weeks gone and support don't gave a solution. App is updated but bug not resolved. I try search solution in google and found same problem with other phone and users spoke about terrible support with a many months no fixes

Subscription makes it a no for me and I want a screen. I’ll stick with my Ultra.

The complaint about the charging doesn’t make any sense to me. If you want to take it off and keep it plugged into a wall, you can. As a matter of fact, that’s what I was doing at first until I learned you have the OPTION to charge it on the go.

I liked it most because I can wear it with my Oris.

Pretty sure whoop has had monthly and trial for 9 months or more at least?

They need to lower the subscription to say 100 a year not 230… there asking for way to much

The good news is they now offer a free 30 day trial…just signed up for it…you get a refurbed 4.0 to test out and then if you sign up, you get a new one….

@petegalindez9961

8 ай бұрын

Check that…you DON’T get a new one if you stay on…you keep the refurbed one (which could be new as well) that was originally sent…

@Holfus

8 ай бұрын

Did the same, also got a "refer a friend for 1 month free" code. Can you do that for 2 months free then cancel and return watch? 🤔

I see Manchester, I subscribe. Great work! Might get one of these.

Can someone tell me if you have to tell the whoop band that and which activity you are doing rn or if it just assumes you are doing sports right now?

@erzorroperro

4 ай бұрын

minute 09:30

Just got my first free month. Looking forward

Hmm. Could be interesting for people who wear mechanical watches but also want fitness measurement. For me though I'm not seeing any data that my Garmin doesn't provide and it also functions as a watch. Having a subscription payment model is the final nail in the coffin for me.

@andrewdhome

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@carlsupermankent

Жыл бұрын

What Garmin do you have?

@DarkFire515

Жыл бұрын

@@carlsupermankent Tactix 7 pro.

It is so interesting that the charging is what you didn't like and for most it's the really awesome part because you don't have to take the band off and you get to continue recording data and when you realize it is about to die and you had a workout planned it saves the day. Maybe with a perspective shift you'll notice how amazing that part is after all.

@MarkEllisReviews

Жыл бұрын

…until you lose it.

@worshipfit

Жыл бұрын

@@MarkEllisReviews yeah I hear that, to me it's weird. I had a location where the puck stayed when not in use and then I would snap it on charge the band and place it back and plug its cord up. I felt like once i knew how long the band lasted I got in a rhythm of when I would snap the charger on even if it wasn't always way down. Just made it a routine if you will.

@noelsarabia70

6 ай бұрын

So if you’re not responsible enough to no lose it, do you still use wired ear buds? Because the AirPods are tiny. Do you not drive a car? Those keys are tiny. Lmao

Leave the puck on the charger cord it’ll be just like the Apple Watch charger.

The app should have a tracking feature, for the wrist tech & the puck! Easy

I like the idea but think the price is well out for what would be a gimmick for me.

@jesseb5076

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I can’t see this being something that is worth having for the price and the contract length.

My sleep was transformed by using the autosleep app with my Apple Watch….and it didn’t cost me 20 squid a month for 2 years…

Does the Apple Watch whoop the Whoop's rear end?

Do you know, the simple step counter will do for me

I love metrics, but not at those prices and definitely not locked in for a year.

I am thinking about getting one of these, mostly because I can use it on my bicep and want to use a real watch and not a fitness watch.

@shakar.bajalan

Ай бұрын

how does it feel on your biceps while sleeping tho

Very interesting, thanks. Let’s put aside the power users for a moment - the question for the average user is whether £200 to £300 odd per year is worth it compared to eg the Apple Watch with, say, Athlytic and AutoSleep or Training Today. From your review, it doesn’t sound like it even comes close to justifying the cost. It would be interesting for you to do that comparison though, particularly with regard to sleep. Also, at that price, it will cost you more than a decent Garmin after not very long - but with much less functionality than the Garmin for those serious users. I confess that I don’t get it!

@AmitKumar-hm4gx

Жыл бұрын

well then you can always switch to a new product if WHOOP releases one something that you cannot with other products without buying them

@andrewdhome

Жыл бұрын

@@AmitKumar-hm4gx yep you could. But then for an average user they could buy the Apple Watch SE for £259 and athlytic etc for a few pounds per year. If they replace it once every 3 years that’s say £100 per year. The whoop will cost you 3 times that, hence my comment….. As I said, rather than the whoop you could buy a much more powerful Garmin for the same annual price and get much better / more wide ranging functionality. Hence why I said that for the average user whoop makes little or no sense (unless you just have to have the latest toy or don’t care about money)

@AmitKumar-hm4gx

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewdhome I understand that and I have had used WHOOP for few days now and tbh the data and analytics is simply wow!! and I am someone who loves data so for me it works though I must say the HR thing is more accuate on series 8 than on WHOOP as shown by Quantified Scientist channel - if you are more into data, that being said - WHOOP does great job as well. To me, smart watch was never the need - I did use Fitbit when they were new in the market, and WHOOP to me does the job well.

@AmitKumar-hm4gx

Жыл бұрын

battery life - 3-4 days

@cristobalbalenciaga7295

Жыл бұрын

I mean it’s less than 1 dollar a day… And the “average” user will either break their apple watch and is stuck with the same hardware even tho technology changes. Meanwhile you’ll get the new hardware if whoop releases it.

I disagree with the battery - that is the best part of Whoop, from my experience -- never have to take it off, just pop on the charger, and in an hour, it totally charged up again for 3 days or so, and I never have to take the band off. For other wearables, I always had to remember to take my watch off and put it on the charger. It was a drag.

Manchester. Nice one.

I was considering the Whoop but according to The Quantified Scientist channel it’s nowhere near as accurate as an Apple Watch especially with regards to heart and sleep tracking. I’ll stick with my XIAOMI Smartband which performs better than the Whoop until I buy an Apple Watch in the near future.

Can it work without membership?

@PassionPno

Жыл бұрын

Nope.

Found this thanks to your “Swapping to the S24” video. I like the woven look, but balk at the subscription. It’s like forcing all Apple Watch buyers to purchase Apple Fitness. It’s a “No” from me. Thanks for the content!

Switched from Amazon Halo to Whoop 4.0, very underwhelmed by the UI and its presentation and discouraged with the fact that the yearly subscription price is higher than buying a new device.

1) there is a free trial, you have a 30 day moneyback guarantee and 2) i see the charging puck as a plus not needing to have to take the whoop off. just dont lose your stuff

@MarkEllisReviews

Жыл бұрын

Well that told me, didn’t it.

@thatdudedez6751

Жыл бұрын

@@MarkEllisReviews wasn't trying to "tell you" anything just giving information. do what you'd like with it.

@MarkEllisReviews

Жыл бұрын

@@thatdudedez6751 well this has been a jolly exchange, hasn’t it.

@samholden1339

10 ай бұрын

@@MarkEllisReviews Man I think bro was just being nice letting you know they started doing a free trial service...and then stating his thoughts on the product objectively... maybe the dont lose your stuff wasn't necessary but 🤷‍♂

i really love my whoop and the fact that it doesnt have a screen.

The problem with the Whoop, besides charging, is the data. I wear an Apple Ultra2 and the Whoop and the Whoops data is so far off. I even tested on a Heart Rate Monitor and it was off by 60 BPM. I contacted Whoop and never heard back. Save your money.

My interest evaporated when I heard "subscription" .

Subscription based watch! Good luck! Whoop whoop landfill!

@MarkEllisReviews

Жыл бұрын

I remember my first drink.

It’s fairly inaccurate. Had it for 6months vs my Polar H10 to compare. Had variations of up to 30-50 bpm. As the whole app relies on heart monitor, such garbage in produces automatically and inevitably garbage out…

@BenJamin-rt7ui

9 ай бұрын

If only Polar did a Whoop, I'd be in.

My Fitbit gives me the similar data (sleep, RHR, etc), only costs $100, and will last 3-5 years. A whoop will cost $1000 to $1800 over that same time period. This is a no brainer. Oh and my Fitbit can actually tell me the time lol. You know like a watch does ….

I like to be able to see my heart rate when I’m performing an activity. Whoop is not going to give me that so it would mean having a smart watch and the whoop band. I don’t see enough in whoop to justify. I only see it being truly worth it to athletes and other people with lots of disposable income.

Just got my Whoop 4 a week ago. If you have an apple watch.......don't bother with the Whoop. All style no (additional) substance. I've got my return label already

Just to add on Woop, if you take it off, it tracks you as sleeping, which is just not the way forward. It should recognize that the watch is not attached to the body. So many errors with this watch is unreal. Becoming a watch that is just for marketing purposes with little fact behind it.

I am parent with a young child. This whoop would probably stress me out as my sleep is disturbed every night 😂

Losing your charging puck is a skill issue lol. It's the best part - you never have to take off the watch. Just keep the puck in one place near a charger and you never have to think about anything else. On the flip side, my apple watch is a constant frustration because I need to find moments to take it off and charge every single day - it's unavoidable if you're ACTUALLY active and track sleep + over 30 mins of exercise per day, even if it's just walking.

Buy two of them one can stay charged the other one can be charging and a as you pointed out don’t lose the damn thing that’s a responsible

I got the S8 SS, coz it was sleek and shiny. I did consider the Ultra, than though, nah, the S8 SS looks better, even though im missing out of features I proably wouldn't use anyway. A band like this would be meh, if its on your wrist, it should atleast have the time on it, ngl

Star jumps ;) ;) ;)

Strange review. Probably the best part of it the charger you see as negative because you lost it. But you admit you were silly for losing it. Problems I see with this is its too expensive for "normal" people. Like you state at the end it's more for people to analyse and sports people. But they have narrowed their own market with this. Good review overall 👌 its really expensive also!

@MarkEllisReviews

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the charger bit. I excel at strange reviews.

@dominicomucci3014

Жыл бұрын

@MarkEllisReviews haha its a good review! You nailed it at the end with who it's for its more pro athletes I feel. Not mere mortals like me and you. Some great camera angles by the way while you were out and about. Good direction.

Just so I don't have to subscribe to the whoop, what time should we go to bed?

@abbreviateTome

Жыл бұрын

Earlier

After 3 weeks. I like and don't like...don't like, must be connected to wifi for it it update.

The subscription in this day and age is where this will fail. It’s more than some gym memberships 🤔

More than my gym membership for a subscription... No thanks I'll stick to Garmin

I will stick to my samsung Classic watch 4 , with no subscription, looks a little boring

Looks like a cool device but i’m not paying a subscription for a device that basically does what a FitBit, AppleWatch, etc. does

I'm more of a Christian Horner man myself.

Lol. You need an AirTag for your Whoop charging puck if Apple made a small one

@MarkEllisReviews

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great idea!

I stick with my Apple Watch Ultra least I don’t have to pay outrageous amount on subscription

Crazy comment in my head to hear someone say they shouldn’t have to worry about losing something they need.

@MarkEllisReviews

10 ай бұрын

Don’t listen to those voices in your head.

Priced terribly, I'm totally gunna ask them for the $0 Whoop 4.0 discount. Fingers Crossed!

Wait, it costs 300 for the band? Then we have to pay for a subscription to use it????

What I take from this… I’m like Toto! 🤜🤛

Mine just stopped working. It is a brick. I paid the $300 up front. No phone customer service. I have emailed twice. The service is the worst. If you call or email Wahoo, they get right on it and take care of you. Whoop sucks. I'm going to contact my credit card tomorrow and see if they can apply the buyer protection. Stay away from this company.

@janetstauffer9138

Жыл бұрын

Hmm

@AlessandroVolta1

Жыл бұрын

@@janetstauffer9138 to follow up, Whoop did replace the strap after going through 3 different Whoop employees via email. Them I had to send in videos if the strap not working. The new strap is working.

I see people wear it on their upper arm does that actually work

@MarkEllisReviews

Жыл бұрын

I very much doubt it.

Proper fitness trainers cost 18 pounds or 30 pounds a month? How much time do you expect to have with them?! Maybe this is just not realistic at all for a Norwegian.

I am a Marathon runner and always use Apple Watch and I see so many people using this device but most of them are not serious runners. They are more women’s who just want to lose some pounds but if you control yourself sleep right time & do right workout you don’t need this. Your body is smart enough to tell you if your are tired enough to take more rest. So I feel having Apple Watch on your wrist is enough to tell you everything

The charger argument makes no sense. If youre scared youll lose it, just charge it at home or with the charger plugged in

I bought a whoop and no longer need my gym membership or have to pay a personal trainer (as it has both). Saving my a whooping €170 a month!!!😊

@MrTuttiFrutti

10 ай бұрын

I didn't know that it provides you with a personal gym. I can get the personal trainer, but not needing a gym, come on man don't make me laugh 😅

It gives you no more metrics than a decent Garmin.... and the Garmin doesnt cost you the ridiculous subscription fee for information that costs the company next to nothing to provide you.

@MrTuttiFrutti

10 ай бұрын

Exactly, 100% agree with you! But you know what, without this stupid subscription model they wouldn't be able to charge that much money for a relatively cheap band. Nobody would pay 200-300€ for this when you have Apple watch at the same price. I have to admit, they're great at marketing and making their users to promote the band as they give them 1 month free for each person they bring so they have all the incentives to talk well about the band.

Whoop does nothing that my Garmin Eduro 2 watch won’t do. Hard pass

just set up the portable charger brick like a typical smart watch charger... leave it plugged in and take off the whoop when it needs charging. Total skill issue

I like your vids and reviews but with this one, haha so you pay 27/month for something to tell u go to bed early?

Those in the United Kingdom, do not order one from them, they provide such a poor service on delivery, in simple they use Royal Mail who are permanently on striker, a company that could not provide their client with more superior delivery methods. Customer service, ridiculous, no interest in assisting their clients. Order a WOOP 4.0 on the 23rd November 2022 - 13th December 2022 and still not arrived, in fact it has not even left their facility. Scam in my opinion.

@justinlim2161

Жыл бұрын

Hello, was just wondering if you have received it yet. Actually thinking of getting one but looking at the comments customer service seems to be poor.

@oryx-lordy87

Жыл бұрын

@@justinlim2161 I received the item, however the total time frame for delivery was approximately 1-Month, maybe slightly longer. On the actual item itself, my personal opinion is it is just a watch, Apple etc far better - opinion

Expensive no-screen band with additional paid subscription? Somewhat silly.

@bradleyapps2304

Жыл бұрын

Band is free lol

@MrTuttiFrutti

10 ай бұрын

​@@bradleyapps2304 yeah the band is "free" but then you pay all that money to use the App... Too expensive, not worth the price. If they just sold the band without subscription around 150€ I could see a point, or make the App subscription 5-10€.

Whoop. For the people who gonna ruin their healt from to much exercise.

Mediocre battery life…says the guy charging his Apple Watch every 12 hours

@MarkEllisReviews

Жыл бұрын

Slightly different devices wouldn’t you say, Tom?! Although I should note that my Apple Watch Ultra doesn’t need charging quite as regularly as that.

Get a garmin?

The pricing of this device is just insane. I'll not buy a Whoop!

Nope...

Had a lot of these devices over the years come and go, to be honest tired of tracking every aspect of my life or activity. Don’t really need all this rubbish gadgets

A really cool name?! It sounds pathetic.

Through your Apple Watch in the bin and get a real watch. THEN you’ll be happy in life

@MarkEllisReviews

Жыл бұрын

*throw

@beau__

Жыл бұрын

It's the most accurate fitness watch. Wtf is a "real" watch anyways, a pocket watch from the 1920s?

@MrTuttiFrutti

10 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? Anything that gives an accurate time is a "real watch", even a 1$ watch.

Whoop… I won’t be subscribing to that

I get so many ads for this trash that they clearly care more about locking people into their ridiculously expensive subscription than they do about the service itself. Just buy a smart watch and be free of this nonsense.

@MarkEllisReviews

Жыл бұрын

How about not watching videos about something that clearly makes you so relentlessly angry?!

I call bs on you losing the puck. I quit watching this vid. I'll get my info elsewhere

@MarkEllisReviews

11 ай бұрын

Why would I fabricate that? 😂

@Neddy540

6 ай бұрын

😂

God I hate the Whoop app, I find it so gimmicky. Prior to the Whoop, I used a Fitbit with an arm band for about 6 months and though the app wasn't perfect, it was certainly more to the point than the Whoop app is. Right now I am thinking about refunding the Whoop but I'll give the Whoop another 2 weeks before I decide that for sure. What I want is an analytics dashboard that shows me the stats I am after in a way that is easy to understand - and _nothing_ extra. No ads for more Whoop products, no videos, no app tutorials you can't dismiss, or resources, no coaching or whatever. With the Fitbit, I could customize the home page. I could pin/remove the stats I was interested in and it didn't have any noise or clutter. I opened the app when I woke up, skimmed my sleep hours and I might even go back to sleep if I didn't get great sleep and I didn't have anything on. During the day I could check out how my heartrate was tracking throughout the day and it was very readable. The Whoop, on the other hand, is just a cluttered mess of vague interpreted read outs. It tells me how "stressed" I was rather than giving me my heartrate. When I wake up, the Whoop will take 15-20 minutes crunching my sleep data and spit it out in a format that's not quite as digestible as the Fitbit. The annoying thing is that it will crunch the sleep data and the app will appear to be doing nothing. You'll spend a while flipping through the many dashboards wondering if it's doing anything before it just pops up. I might not be the typical consumer but I simply want a health tracker that focuses on accuracy and reads out my health stats. I'm not into a digital personal trainer or vague health scores that have no explanation. The Whoop costs so much money and the app is such a let down.

Good news, they have a free trial now - for anyone else who heard about it from the XiaomaNYC brain video. I'm trying it out this month, I think it will be very insightful, although I do plan to return it after the free month.