Fascinating. I pretty much agree with the ranking of our Prime Ministers: in the 20th century Churchill is the great and inspiring leader who defines our image of ourselves and Thatcher is the great doer who reverses our economic decline and propels us back to the top rank of nations, and who enriches and liberates us ordinary people. She’s my favourite because she had to battle so hard for so long, even against her own party, and she had the guts to stick it out where anyone else would have flaked. Neither Churchill nor Thatcher let us down.

@phwbooth

3 жыл бұрын

I can see we're never going to be twin souls, Mr Moncrieff.

@whyter11

3 жыл бұрын

Churchill was a drunk who bankrupted the nation and lost our Empire.

@whyter11

3 жыл бұрын

@The505Guys Should we give up the Falklands then? How about Gibraltar? We have territory in The Caymans, Bermuda, the Virgin Isles. Even the Antarctic. All projections of our power. Britain wouldn't be the country it is without having the Empire, it makes no difference to these people who use it to attack us. Most European countries didn't have one. Look at Ireland. Will they escape the cultural enrichment due to not having an Empire? I think not. They'll just find other reasons for the Irish to be racist whilst they fill the country with the 3rd world. I'm proud of our past including the Empire which gave the world so much and I apologise for nothing.

@drahcirnevarc9152

3 жыл бұрын

Quite right.

@Kaiserbill99

3 жыл бұрын

@@whyter11 Really not sure how you can suggest Churchill lost the empire. He was about the most ardent advocate of empire as is possible. The loss of empire was inevitable post WW2, so unless you are suggesting that Churchill should have sued for peace with Hitler, in which case I am not sure how relevant empire would have become with Britain a glorified Vichy, then bit of a daft comment I'm afraid. And if you do think Churchill should have thrown the towel in against Hitler then you are a questionable individual.

We'll spare the embarrassment of mentioning the worst, as she's still a sitting MP.

@StephenHartland

3 жыл бұрын

You MAY say that, I couldn't possibly comment.

@thosewhodig

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think May will be remembered as a worse PM than Eden or Lord North. In fact, she'll hardly be remembered at all.

@123asdzxc7

3 жыл бұрын

The worst is still in power

@roberttreborable

3 жыл бұрын

Gordon Brown is the worst... However I can forgive you if you forgot him.....

@wilverbal

3 жыл бұрын

Somewhere, Lord North, Neville Chamberlain, and Edward Heath are smiling with relief that they've each been bumped up a notch from their pre-2016 positions.

What a really great idea. There must be some fascinating stories to tell of events throughout the last 300 years.

Think it was Seldon commentating on state of Britain in 1990s who said .. ‘the rot set in with flared trousers and Dusty Springfield’ ... bit harsh on Dusty I thought at time .. 🤣🤣🤣

@seanjuly53

3 жыл бұрын

@tog hoath ... memory fail... Dusty never a member of The Honeycombs. She was in Springfields from 1960 to 63.. before embarking on her solo career as a singer.. which had some glorious highs but also some deep lows. Died in 1999.

Fascinating, thank you

Definitely keeping my eye out for that book

Although forgotten Henry Campbell Bannerman needs considered. A believer in free trade, Irish Home Rule, free school meals for all, and an introducer of legislation to ensure trade unions could not be liable for damages incurred during strike action. And.. had he survived beyond 1908 and retained power, he was "totally averse" to British troops being involved in World war one, arguably meaning that the Russian revolution and World war two might potentially never have occurred.

@thomasboyd3542

3 жыл бұрын

He Henry Campbell Bannerman Liberal party MP Prime miniater member of the Glasgow Parliamentary Debating Association 1876 to 2009. Arthur Balfour Conservative MP Prime minister member of the Glasgow Parliamentary Debating Association. Lounden Connelly right wing Conservative member for 50 years he Conservative supporter voted for Mrs Thatcher in 1979 to 1997 he help win the Mrs Thatcher Conservative party win 3British general elections he born in Glasgow 1925 to 1999 he Lounden Connelly lived Ibrox Glasgow 2 Clifford Place. He Lounden Connelly good friend to Mrs Thatcher British Conservative Prime minister. Mrs Thatcher gave Lounden Connelly a Christmas Card in 1988. Lounden Connelly good friend to me.

@jamesoneill5070

3 жыл бұрын

Henry Campbell-Bannerman was the 1st prime minister in that he was the very first person to be addressed as such. I think he was the first PM to die naturally in office.

Strange to see Andrew Neil not ripping his interviewee to shreds.

@mattygroves21478

3 жыл бұрын

You're going to have to get used to it, because that's the way it's going to be from here on in.

Would make sense to have a virtual museum which could tell the story of the prime minister's and number 10 enabling people from around the world to learn the story. Interesting how you find a balance to so many events.

I'd say either Lord Palmerston or Pitt the Elder.

@chrislyne377

3 жыл бұрын

I understood that reference

@christopherfleming7848

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrislyne377"OK you asked for it Boggs!"

@thefezman93

3 жыл бұрын

Lord Palmerston

I do love this channel. Even if you disagree it's a delight to listen to, good to have a professional in Andew Neil. And yes, I agreed on those two pivotal prime ministers. As someone who has sat between the state and liberty, very well chosen.

Teaching British History in Britain? That will never catch on...

@Jazzstan98

3 жыл бұрын

You will not find a single schoolchild who has not learned about British History in the United Kingdom. No point contriving an issue which does not exist. I do think some greater level of understanding of history would be good, but to your point the vast majority of UK history curricula are based on British history. The only times I learned about non-British history in school was the First and Second World Wars, and then after that history was an elective subject, in which we did learn about non-British history.

Clement Attlee Number One, Prime Minster who founded the National Health Service, even Thatcher didn't dare abolish it during her long term in office... Now the Tories tell us they are the party of the NHS, proving how much Attlee's government changed the country for the better.... Other achievement of Attlee's government giving Independence to India, making the country a nuclear power, a house building program... Many of these programs were kept by the Conservatives becoming part of their policies .....

@darrensweeney2376

3 жыл бұрын

Just to inform you that the introduction of the NHS was first introduced in parliament by a coalition government during 1941/2 .the labour government after the war continued with the legislation, so it was Churchill's coalition government who began the process

@eightiesmusic1984

Жыл бұрын

@@darrensweeney2376 The Tories voted against the NHS three times before conceding it was the will of the public so do not try to make out it was their idea- not true. Labour drove domestic policy in the war, planning for the peace. The NHS and the other welfare state legislation was central to this.

Churchill and Thatcher were the best from the 20th century. I do think we should have a museum of British Prime Ministers.

@drgramnegative7310

3 жыл бұрын

can also help to show how bad some of them were. Imagine the Blair exhibit!

@markmorris7123

3 жыл бұрын

I think thatcher was the worst

@irenemwrench8594

2 жыл бұрын

@@drgramnegative7310 Tony Blair is often ranked in the top 5 best PMs postwar, by people who know what they’re talking about.

@GabrielNicho

6 ай бұрын

Churchill was a horrible PM. Chamberlain was great.

@purplepoppyz

6 ай бұрын

@@GabrielNicho Churchill was a very brave young man in the army and also a brave older man as PM, he saved us from Nazism. Chamberlain was a good man who, having lived through the 1st world war, wanted to avoid a 2nd but was made a fool of by Hitler. Chamberlain did, do many good things for working class people in his time in power. A good man but not a great man.

Great idea. We can then clearly see what each and every PM managed to achieve while in post.

thatcher

@illegitimateotaku794

3 жыл бұрын

That's a funny joke.

@eightiesmusic1984

Жыл бұрын

She destroyed Britain and we are living in Thatcher's Britain today. She was the best Prime Minister for the rich, no doubt. The decay of today is the legacy of Thatcher. Britain is the most unequal country in Europe except Bulgaria. Once upon a time enlightened Tories from the one nation tradition understood that workers' wages had to be maintained at decent levels and the state had to do more than it does today to help people in need. But the Tories have been in thrall to her failed ideology since 1979, which has achieved nothing except for the minority of the rich.

Churchill museum is award winning, powerful.

@raymondporter2094

3 жыл бұрын

And there is Churchill College, Cambridge.

A fabulous idea!

Maybe we could have a Winston Churchill International Airport? A William Gladstone Train Terminus? A Lloyd George Suspension Bridge?

I guess they'll say Winston Churchill but I hope they don't miss out Clement Attlee.

@tomben6180

3 жыл бұрын

They didn’t

@heliotropezzz333

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomben6180 👍 Thanks

@tomben6180

3 жыл бұрын

@@heliotropezzz333 Attlee and Thatcher were the best for completely opposite reasons. They did it outside of Churchill, he was excluded because it’s obvious for winning WW2. I suppose, to the political right, Thatcher is no.1 and left, Attlee is no.1. Can’t argue with that.

@tomben6180

3 жыл бұрын

@Sarah Bukhara I think if we are looking back throughout history, there’s not a single PM who didn’t make at least one big mistake. I think it’s impossible.

@tomben6180

3 жыл бұрын

@Sarah Bukhara Bang on.

What a silly question - it's obviously ❤️❤️❤️ SIR John Major ❤️❤️❤️ Bring back JOHN!!!

@Charlie-rk5ts

3 жыл бұрын

The Churchill statue should be torn down and replaced by one of Sir John Major

@sdrawkcabUK

3 жыл бұрын

@@Charlie-rk5ts No, Churchill should stay. Though I do agree we need more John statues... ideally one in every town, coated with gold

@Charlie-rk5ts

3 жыл бұрын

@@sdrawkcabUK much better. As common as post boxes

Thatcher no doubt

@wobblytiger6134

3 жыл бұрын

Yes-from a Scottish person

@Bottomprem

3 жыл бұрын

Eh she won us the Falklands i guess however she did start chaos all over Yorkshire (my area) and it still has some mild effects now

@eightiesmusic1984

Жыл бұрын

@@Bottomprem Mild? Destruction of communities that have never recovered. The Falklands should have been negotiated away. James Callaghan's government sent a warship to warn the Argentinians off an invasion but Thatcher went to war for no good reason.

Think I'll read this book

Clement Attlee

@eightiesmusic1984

Жыл бұрын

No doubt. Forgotten by most.

when do we get to see his new tv news channel?

Very gracious not to dwell on the PM's who could have performed better given the dross and narcissists we've had since Thatcher.

@nicholasnunhofer8501

3 жыл бұрын

Could not agree more !!

@andythompson2009

3 жыл бұрын

Tony B. Liar. YT won't let me post his singular pronoun...

@drahcirnevarc9152

3 жыл бұрын

The jury is still out on Boris, though.

@stephenobrien5909

3 жыл бұрын

@@drahcirnevarc9152 He is the best for a long time.

@SSMMTTEE

3 жыл бұрын

You think Thatcher wasn't a narcissist? Come on now, haha. She obviously performed well in the role given how many of her own priorities she achieved, but let's not pretend she didn't get a bit crazy with her own success, especially towards the end!

Why not put it in the V&A or NHM?

@Watermillfilms

3 жыл бұрын

When the V & A was asked if they would be interested in Thatcher’s clothes. They declined and showed no interest. Whether you like her or not she still’s still part of our history now. Natural history museum surly is about science and biology? We have a cabinet war rooms as a museum. So a prime minister museum or exhibition sounds like it could be a brilliant idea. 🙂

@andrewstorm8240

3 жыл бұрын

@@Watermillfilms war room I suppose but V&A makes more sense

@Watermillfilms

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewstorm8240 sorry what I meant to say is if there is a war rooms as a museum. Then they should make a cabinet history or prime minster exhibition/ museum. My comment didn’t make much sense. Problem is most government buildings are already like a museum. 😂

I would say if we did have a museum for prime ministers the majority of our most recent ones it would be a black museum after Margret Thatcher

@andythompson2009

3 жыл бұрын

Shes not bloody French...

@roysimmons4659

3 жыл бұрын

??????

Lloyd George and Gladstone are my choice.

@ottocooper4256

3 жыл бұрын

Lloyd George is an unsung hero who championed the rights of the poor

@georgemackins9500

3 жыл бұрын

I’d probably put in Disraeli and Pitt the younger.

Gladstone and Lloyd George for me! Brilliant principled reformers.

@jaystedman4819

3 жыл бұрын

Lloyd George’s best reforms came when he was chancellor- if the reforming legacy of pensions and benefits is to be celebrated, it should be Asquith that’s on the list

@Oscar-vv6dn

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaystedman4819 Well I can't say Asquith because of the war! I'll still keep Lloyd George there because of how he won the war, his reforms while in office.

I do think the wider public need to know more about our earlier premiers. The office may not have been formally established but it has nevertheless taken a very major role in our history Walpole was in office for some 21 years. Henry Pelham 10 years - as long as Blair So, I support the idea

09:32 Seldon misspoke. He means the American War of Independence (1775-82) rather than the American Civil War (1861-65).

Jesus. Who on earth wants "reverence" towards politicians?! They already get far too many honours.

Having been around since Macmillan. The best was Harold Wilson, the worst was a tie between Mr Cameron and Mr Major.

Pitt, Churchill, & Thatcher... - in order due to the others wouldn't have been 🎩

@fritobelize6271

3 жыл бұрын

Now I've viewed, he's close... - but my worldview perspective is superior.

My Top 5 Post War: 1. Macmillan 2. Atlee 3. Major 4. Brown 5. Thatcher Worst Callaghan

Please consider my new book - British Prime Ministers: The First 300 Years for info on all the Prime Ministers! Available on Amazon!

"She remoulded the whole shape of Britain, unpicking much of what Atlee had done." Yes, and may she always be remembered for that. Thatcher the destroyer.

I agree. Can we also have a museum of the Coal mining industry and ship building In Sunderland please.

@kadensmike8190

3 жыл бұрын

Probably not. :-) I think other places in the UK would make better bids for either of those museums.

@FuuuckOffff

3 жыл бұрын

There are multiple mining and ship museums across the UK

Probably Robert Peel, Disraeli, Pitt the Younger, Lord Salisbury and Palmerston should be near top of the list. Thatcher and Attlee whilst having some influence, are inflated some what due to the media - and they were both quite flawed in their own different ways. Worst ones are probably Lord North, Eden, Heath, Blair, May and now - Johnson.

Is how you see things, time and tide wait for no one , each person dose there best but the hands of time will tell who did there best

Tony Blair was by far the worst Prime Minister of modern times. The amount of damage he did domestically & in foreign affairs was staggering.

@whyter11

3 жыл бұрын

Migration was at about 20,000 per year before Blair. He got it up to 350,000. By Cameron/May years it was up over 650,000. Boris just took the title - 715,000 migrants came into Britain *legally* last year. A large city's worth, like Manchester or Birmingham. Every. Single. Year. All this under a Conservative government with an eighty seat majority. The left and right are cheeks of the same arse.

@terrygabriel6937

3 жыл бұрын

Lets not forget Major, Brown and May. It's too early yet to judge Boris

@richardjames5147

3 жыл бұрын

@@whyter11 Too true, they have all continued the Blair rot. I can't see any daylight between Blair, Brown, Cameron, May or Johnson on most major policies.

@ciaranmarsh255

3 жыл бұрын

Blair was on track to be one of the greatest PMs ever then 9/11 hit

@richardjames5147

3 жыл бұрын

@@ciaranmarsh255 lol you must be joking. Blair was a catastrophe even if one discounts his foreign policies.

_"Who _*_'ARE'_*_ Britain's best prime ministers?"_ A better, more accurate question would be: Who WERE Britain's best prime ministers? None are alive today that could ever be considered for that extremely short list.

20th century onwards best - Churchill, Attlee, Thatcher. Worst - Chamberlain, Blair, Cameron

@ciaranmarsh255

3 жыл бұрын

Blair would’ve been one of the greatest PMs ever, but then 9/11 hit.

@tomben6180

3 жыл бұрын

@@ciaranmarsh255 Not for me, the above is an opinion though, so if you’re for globalisation and mass immigration, with liberal social policies, Blair was brilliant. I am not though.

@thomaswatson9950

3 жыл бұрын

And brown

@tomben6180

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomaswatson9950 For good or bad? Brown saving the banks was a master stroke to be fair but he didn’t do anything else positive.

@illegitimateotaku794

3 жыл бұрын

Cameron was a decent PM and Blair is near the top of the pecking order imo. Should've said Gordon Brown, John Major and Theresa May

Andrew mate, I'd like to ask you to beg/borrow/steal the 60 minute format program style for GB News. A weekly indepth of something topical. We could do with something like that.

I don't think there should be a museum for former Prime Ministers, Andrew. Let's just keep Madam Tussauds(!)

@thejoin4687

3 жыл бұрын

Many of the PMs belong in the Chamber of Horrors anyway

How can we make our political system better in creating stronger PM's?

@ciaranmarsh255

3 жыл бұрын

Probably by becoming a Republic and having a super powerful President

@illegitimateotaku794

3 жыл бұрын

@@ciaranmarsh255 The last thing we need is to move towards a Presidential system.

If they do,imagine how loud the outrage will be,God help us.

@mattygroves21478

3 жыл бұрын

It depends on whether it's a propaganda museum or a museum that accurately narrates the past I suppose.

1. Gladstone 2. Churchill 3. Attlee 4. Pitt Younger 5. Disraeli 6. Lloyd George 7. Thatcher 8. Walpole 9. Palmerston 10. Asquith

Clement Attlee, best PM in British history

Chamberlain & in my lifetime John Major

Major, Blair,Brown, Cameron and May have been the WORST since Ramsay MacDonald.

@sirsamfay99

3 жыл бұрын

Theresa May ,you forgot her.

@jrd33

3 жыл бұрын

Hard to say whether 'worst' means most incompetent, most ineffectual, most disliked or most wrong in terms of policy. Blair was capable in many ways but made bad decisions (Iraq). May was mostly ineffectual. Brown had no talent or aptitude for the role.

@paulsparks7035

3 жыл бұрын

Boris Johnson, hold my beer 🍻

One question : how did they manage to spin this out for over 10 minutes?

@thejoin4687

3 жыл бұрын

Well it is about Number 10

@mattygroves21478

3 жыл бұрын

@@thejoin4687 Nailed it.

@routeman680

3 жыл бұрын

Well, Anthony Seldon has a book to sell. I briefly met him many years ago and thought he was very accomplished, a top bloke.

@mattygroves21478

3 жыл бұрын

@@routeman680 So he can be brief when he wants to be.

Margaret Thatcher I didn't like her but she knew what the EU were up to 40 years ago

@hueyfreeman1983

3 жыл бұрын

British people think because they used to be an empire everyone else must worship them

@grahambooker8383

3 жыл бұрын

@@hueyfreeman1983 No they don't that's an outright lie.

People have a short memory - ask 'worst PM' they would probably say May or Brown What about Viscount Goderich?

I cannot believe Disraeli is not amongst the Greatest PMs mentioned by Mr A Seldon !.

Salisbury is much more significant than Gladstone or DLG.

Let's not forget that Walpole tried to break down the nascent Rule of Law with the passage of the Black Act 1723

Single answer, could only be Maggie Thatcher. Apart from Disrelli and Churchill the rest were garbage.

He claimed Thatcher was the first person since the beginning of the 1800s to win 3 general elections, but didn’t Harold Wilson do that in the 60s and 70s?

for me, the best pms: The Younger Pitt Peel Liverpool Baldwin Salisbury Gladstone

@andrewshaw1571

Жыл бұрын

I think disraeli and earl grey deserve a mention.

Who would be Britain's worst Prime Minister? - Neville Chamberlain - Gordon Brown - Theresa May - Someone else

@johnmaxnodiff5875

3 жыл бұрын

Blair

@StephenHartland

3 жыл бұрын

Why Chamberlain? Prefering peace and striving to achieve it, because he knew the cost of war, financially and for people. His objective delayed the outbreak of WWII that facilitated our survival due to re-armament. He is way off the worst.

@josephbloggs4521

3 жыл бұрын

Lord North

@davidtuer5825

3 жыл бұрын

@@StephenHartland I think you're right. He gave us time to prepare for the inevitable, and carried the blame.

@raymondporter2094

3 жыл бұрын

Eden....?

Thatcher, Churchill, Disraeli, Lloyd George

Atlee Blair Macmillan Wilson (1) Brown

Not me

what was the ISLAND LIKE

They should say Clement Atlee, he should be top of any list.

@Freddie1980

3 жыл бұрын

Good point he did push for the UK to become a nuclear power after all

How could they miss Disraeli?

@thejoin4687

3 жыл бұрын

Misraeli.

In my opinion the greatest prime ministers and in no particular order, were; 1) Sir Robert Walpole 1721-1742 2) William Pitt the Elder, de facto in control from 1757-1761 and Prime Minister in his own right 1766-1768. 3) William Pitt the Younger 1783-1801, 1804-1806 4) Lord Liverpool 1812-1827 5) Duke of Wellington 1828-1830, 1834 6) Sir Robert Peel 1834-1835, 1841-1846 7) Lord Palmerston 1855-1858, 1859-1865 8) Benjamin Disraeli 1868,1874-1880 9) William Gladstone 1868-1874, 1880-1885, 1886, 1892-1894 10) David Lloyd George 1916-1922 11) Sir Winston Churchill 1940-1945, 1951-1955. 12) Clement Attlee 1945-1951 13) Harold Macmillan 1957-1963 14) Harold Wilson 1964-1970, 1974-1976 15 Margaret Thatcher 1979-1990

@harryraiswell2158

Жыл бұрын

Margaret Thatcher was horrible. She made rich people richer and poor people poorer. She was also responsible for the unemployment in the early 1980s too.

@daviddean707

Жыл бұрын

The first nine sound like my GCE History O levels. Discuss.

The ones who could have been?

A museum... mausoleum?

Lost me when u wanted a replica In each of the 4 countries, what a waste of money, no no, just one, really good one, in London.

Homer Simpson's favourite PM was Henry John Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston.

@Alex-wh8xr

3 жыл бұрын

Pitt the Elder!!

Lord Palmerston.

@NoName-hg6cc

Жыл бұрын

Pitt the Elder!

@richardgadberry8398

Жыл бұрын

@@NoName-hg6cc Lord Palmerston!

@NoName-hg6cc

Жыл бұрын

@@richardgadberry8398 Pitt the Elder!

@richardgadberry8398

Жыл бұрын

@@NoName-hg6cc Okay! You asked for it, Boggs!

@mxvrdahegaouwu7577

Жыл бұрын

@@richardgadberry8398 Yeah, that'll show him Barney (Pitt the elder) 😒

Walpole - the first and longest serving. Bought peace and prosperity as Britain became far more secular but he was also self-serving Pitt the Elder- the most incorruptible Prime Minister. Man of the people Pitt the Younger- Serious minded and a great administrator for reform. Robert Peel- Created the Conservative Party for the Tories. Introduced the Metropolitan Police Force. Palmerston- hugely popular with the people as a founder of the Liberal party. Promoted nationalism. Great handler of crisis in the country. Disraeli- Hugely influential with setting the standard of the Conservative Party and the Empire. Gladstone- great reformer and advocate of human rights Churchill - the right man to lead the country against Nazi Germany Clement Attlee - Still the greatest PM for the working class Harold Wilson - Kept us out of Vietnam Margaret Thatcher - Made London a hugely rich city. The last conviction PM.

Cannot understand the enthusiasm for Disraeli - he was a political operator and monarch flatterer. Mr Gladstone had intellect and compassion. Palmerston was the most popular politician in UK history.

afternoon

I need to learn more about Atlee before deciding how good he was, but knowing the Town and Country Planning Act 1947 was a product of his government, and that is a huge reason for today's sky-high house prices, it isn't a good start haha. Shouldn't understate the significant of the points the guest made though.

@eightiesmusic1984

Жыл бұрын

No. Right To Buy under Thatcher is the root cause of the problem. Councils were banned from building new council houses which is why there is a shortage today. Lack of house building by different governments has also driven up prices alongside Russian and middle eastern money in London which has fanned out to the rest of the country. Nothing to do with Attlee.

Pitt the elder & younger must be in it.

@ThomasHoward4thDuke

3 жыл бұрын

LORD PALMERSTON

John Smith was the finest Prime Minister we never had, sadly.

@bluepurgatory2927

3 жыл бұрын

Disagree. For me it would be Farage.

@davidgardiner6123

3 жыл бұрын

It's easy to play counter factual history. What if so and so had done this or that? On what grounds was John Smith a potential fine PM?

@kadensmike8190

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidgardiner6123 Can you not see why Farage and Smith have been chosen, even if they wouldn't be your choice?

@zufgh

3 жыл бұрын

Enoch Powell.

@MGustave

3 жыл бұрын

@@zufgh The greatest tragedy of Powell was that he was intelligent enough to know better.

William Gladstone

Ha, since 1945. In totality it is Walpole by a country mile.

Anthony Seldon sounds just like the other historian Simon Schama i think!

Might Gladstone have been a Tory if he were PM in 2021? Politics seems to have been slowly moving to the left since then & Liberals of Lloyd George's time would not have recognised the Lib Dems.

Disraeli or Pitt in my opinion

I'm guessing Lord North won't be featuring?

@thejoin4687

3 жыл бұрын

Alec Douglas-Home all the way.

Margaret Thatcher and Margaret Thatcher.

@davman115

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@phwbooth

3 жыл бұрын

Milk snatcher?

@fredo1070

3 жыл бұрын

@@phwbooth Best thing she ever did. You were never forced to drink the eggy, Milk Marketing Board school milk every day. I was and it put me off milk for life.

even though I support the conservatives I'd say Atlee and Thatcher are on an equal plane

Not "having more reverence" for the PM is, for me, the greatest benefit of having a constitutional monarchy. I love America and most Americans I have met, but when I watch their inaugurations, parties, even visits to cities by the President with all his cavalcade and fanfare I just feel contempt for their puffed up self importance. It's a big part of their political problem, to revere people who come and go, and while in office will lie and disappoint as all politicians must.

Ringo for President

Churchill, Thatcher and Attlee. Super trio

'Attlee and Thatcher are the two giants' This may not be vogue but I would include Blair.

I can only remember as far back as Thatcher, who was excellent. Every PM since has been truly awful, though some have been particularly awful.

'Sir' Tony Blair has to have been the worst!

Benjamin D'Israeli

It was definitely important for the whole world . From that illustrious office , a people lost their land and caused a situation in the Middle East that would pretty much guarantee there would never be peace in that region again.

"Maraget Thatcher, not least because she was a women...". Whaaat? What does her being a woman have anything to do with her being the best prime minister of her era?

@andreare7766

3 жыл бұрын

7:28 "Not JUST because she was the first woman". Like that it is not so bad ;)

@samcarpenter2910

3 жыл бұрын

Either your trolling or you are a troll..... the point is that at that time it was extremely rare to have female politicians especially at that level so to get there she had to work especially hard as opportunities for females in that area were scarce which was why it was mentioned!! but he clearly went onto state all that she achieved while in office as the overwhelming reason, making the point it wasn't just because she was a female succeeding in a male dominated industry at that time.

@andreare7766

3 жыл бұрын

@@samcarpenter2910 , well, there had already been Golda Meir and Indira Gandhi. The point Tom I believe is making is that by highlighting that Thatcher was a woman belittles her accomplishments (or demerits, depending on your point of view).

@hiramrichards5607

3 жыл бұрын

@@samcarpenter2910 rubbish. gender had bugger all to do with it

Pitt the Elder and noone comes close

@ThomasHoward4thDuke

3 жыл бұрын

LORD PALMERSTON

@williamcobbett4943

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasHoward4thDuke fight me, irl ;)

I've long said the Houses of Parliament / Palace of Westminster should be made into a Nat Museum of Britain - turf the MPs + Peers out (thus promoting long-overdue modernisation of the institution & its arcane procedures) and - 2 birds with one stone - ensuring retention of the buildings via visitor income. None of our exiting museums covers the ground - the BM, V&A, War Mus, Nat Gall, &c - doesn't really fully cover our history, does it?

Churchill wartime, Thatcher peacetime. Saved you 11.56 minutes.

@grahambooker8383

Жыл бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 Clementine ' the socialist' Attlee? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the laugh comrade.

@grahambooker8383

Жыл бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 Duh, I know it was Clement, I can tell that you're a socialist by your humour bypass. The emojis were there to let you know how much I was laughing at your comment. Here are some more. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@grahambooker8383

Жыл бұрын

@@eightiesmusic1984 What arguments? My opinion was stated in the op, you wanted an argument so instead of writing your opinion separately, you decided to try to cause one by replying to my op. I fail to see what points I need to substantiate, you're a Corbyn commie that likes Attlee and I'm a real Conservative that likes Churchill and Thatcher, that leaves only one thing. Have some more.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣