I did a follow-up vlog answering a few of your comments. Check it out on my second channel kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZ6Vsq-beajMaLQ.html&ab_channel=ArmouredGregory kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZ6Vsq-beajMaLQ.html&ab_channel=ArmouredGregory

@nathanrail-road9662

3 жыл бұрын

Is it creepy to see your Armour in the dark?

@nathanrail-road9662

3 жыл бұрын

Is it creepy to see your Armour in the dark?

@firephantom115

3 жыл бұрын

didn't the police make some BS excuse, then said it would take four years to find his body? and then they find his body *4 years later?*

@soulsmith4787

2 жыл бұрын

Those pansies, who were so afraid of what happened 12,000 years ago, went underground to protect themselves and their technology and now they aren't honoring the pact to return the people they take. Fuck them and their nonexistent eyebrows! Let them drown in their shallow genepool desperately trying to leave the Earth over a little black hole sun. Maybe they should have shown some respect to our traditionally revered reproductive prowess and fertility! Perhaps being big, strong, fast and nerdy wasn't as superior as they thought it was!

@chanceneck8072

2 жыл бұрын

You're probably currently the best skeptic on KZread!!

Sometimes people fall through the polygons in low traffic areas where the devs didn't thoroughly playtest the terrain. The software usually catches it before they hit the death wall and it's coded to attempt to teleport them to the nearest safe spot in the zone (outside of the sight of other players to maintain immersion). Sometimes their inventory gets scattered from multiple attempted teleports when the safe area is too small or improperly shaped to accommodate their avatar and a another safe area has to be selected. Due to the complexity of "scenic" terrain this can occur multiple times and may result in the player ending up kilometers away from the site of the polygon error. Refunds or new characters with enhanced stats are awarded (at the player's discretion) in the rare case that a player's time is cut short.

@movement2contact

4 жыл бұрын

This was great 😁👍 But seriously doe, this has been the mindfuckiest stuff I've learned lately... 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🕵️‍♂️💩🥴

@umachan9286

4 жыл бұрын

Or they just fall forever into the "blue hell" or whatever it's called in the version you're talking about.

@randomstockphotos2348

3 жыл бұрын

So the dead people was when the dev couldn’t get them in time

@joeh4955

3 жыл бұрын

You forgot to mention the potential for time dilation. Teleportation is tricky and can take a while to execute correctly.

@mudmagnet3249

3 жыл бұрын

I knew it! Thanks

"Found in places that had already been searched multiple times" Sounds like everything I lose inside my house

@Falcodrin

3 жыл бұрын

When you open the fridge for the 4th time in 5 minutes and see something there you didnt see before

@Re-Todd_Howard

3 жыл бұрын

Notusavo that’s what I was thinking too. Now where the fuck are my keys...

@shaunw9270

3 жыл бұрын

Reason : Marijuana .

@dananorth895

2 жыл бұрын

I have hundreds of things lost in my place, haven't seen in years.

@BradTrapp

2 жыл бұрын

10mm

The Armored Skeptic just hanging out in the background like Slenderman the whole time and its giving me threatening vibes

@jaytheamazing197

4 жыл бұрын

dude ya it creeped the hell outta me

@miguelEguzman

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he should flash a trigger warning. Trigger is sensitive.

@jamesreagan8175

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's those briefs. Top-half suave, bottom-half bedroom; it's a dangerous combination

@VistaAllen

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesreagan8175 just what i thought

@EdmondDantes224

3 жыл бұрын

I know right? The thing I hate most about that mannequin is how its not wearing pants. Greg, get that thing a proper set of pants!

Real talk, though - never underestimate how quickly you can get completely lost, and never underestimate how easy it is to be 5 feet away from the thing you're looking for and not see it. Also never underestimate how stupid people are. Hell, I'm a very experienced outdoorsman and occasionally I do stupid stuff like take "shortcuts" that become dangerous

@abesan70

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve experienced parking somewhere and not being able to recall the location. I’ve even passed my vehicle where I’ve must have looked at it but not quite “see” it. Children go missing in crowded places with literally dozens of witnesses numerous times per day, have you tried finding a kid in Home Depot after being separated?

@stitchfinger7678

3 жыл бұрын

Les Stroud always used to emphasize how easy it is to literally just step away for a whiz or something and you immediately have no idea where you are anymore. A lot of how I conduct myself in nature is cuz of him.

@skylerblake1925

3 жыл бұрын

almost walked off a cliff in the grand canyon trying to take a "shortcut".

@chadwilliams9141

3 жыл бұрын

Yep espically with dense forest and moutains. I live in upper Montana and you would be surprised how often hunters get lost or even go missing. Weather can change in minutes and suddenly things get drastically worse.

@jrohnenglish9781

3 жыл бұрын

Errant gets it best comment on David p I've ever seen

Whoever says "a child couldn't have climbed that" has obviously never seen children climb things.

@hippiehippo9030

4 жыл бұрын

Hell, there was a whole HBO special that got kicked off because some little shit wouldnt stop climbing.

@ebros5758

4 жыл бұрын

I know of a baby who would climb anything nearby but might have been injured because they would try to get down so she was kept in rooms without anything in them, until she started climbing the walls and falling off

@miguelEguzman

4 жыл бұрын

I climbed things as a toddler that I have trouble climbing now, with a foot and a half longer reach. Kids are amazing.

@riccardoconti6682

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, smaller feet are extremely useful when climbing, you need far less surface to have a steady foothold, and a lighter size and weight make It even easyer

@nhmooytis7058

4 жыл бұрын

MravacKid at age 7 my bff and I used to run around on her roof...her dad came home for lunch and made us get down, after he went back to work we went back on the roof ;).

He's gradually turning into Canadian Jesus or maybe that guy from Depeche Mode.

@dzhellek

4 жыл бұрын

@Hermit Crabbe don't be silly Jesus is Mexican. He lives next door to me.

@Pico2199

4 жыл бұрын

I feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel you.

@stadtbekanntertunichtgut

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus was actully Italien only a Italien mother would think her son is holy!

@onglogman

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking more Vamp from Metal Gear

@BJ.Cardoso

4 жыл бұрын

@@onglogman if he wasn't 5'6(1,70m or something Like that)

-strange occurences around dissapearence -officials are hesitant or will straight up refuse to disclose information -the bodies/people usually return to a place previously searched The park rangers & services are hiding werewolf attacks, only explanation.

@dragonrider1467

4 жыл бұрын

Or sasquatch.

@krookiemonster2673

4 жыл бұрын

And ant people and side hill gougers

@thehaloofthesun

3 жыл бұрын

@@krookiemonster2673 don’t forget Coachwhip Rattlesnakes!

@LaneCorbett

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the Soul eating Aliens, Blood Drinking Satanists, and Pedo Tunnels

@ShunyShock

11 ай бұрын

Funny

That "I turned around for a second and the person was gone" sounds like exaggerated nonsense. More like "I wasn't paying attention for several minutes and it wasn't until we stopped to camp when we noticed one person missing"

@bryanlinsmeyer3521

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah; I can't imagine most people want to admit, be it consciously or unconsciously, that they just weren't paying any attention to the person.

@keerya4179

4 жыл бұрын

If it's near a cliff then it could be true. It doesn't take more than a few seconds to fall in a hole or crevasse. To fall off the cliff. If the person don't scream, you don't hear a thing.

@erikho6936

4 жыл бұрын

@Hexi You have responsible parents, some people don't

@Bunnybry

4 жыл бұрын

@Hexi Some parents are more lenient with how they raise their children and don't have their eyes on them every moment.

@Bunnybry

4 жыл бұрын

@Hexi I don't know what you're trying to argue here. There will ALWAYS be parents who aren't keeping an eye on their kids at all times. Regardless of age or gender.

It is so insanely great to see that Skeptic will be covering this.

@AttiMatter

2 жыл бұрын

And a good re-watch too.

Some say that alley is still covered in snow to this very day. They call it Raycon Alley, because ever since Armored Skeptic wore his Raycons through there, the place became so cool it single-handedly stopped global warming.

@derangedemu

4 жыл бұрын

Aside from sponsoring some of my favorite youtubers, raycon sucks. They’re low quality garbage.

@theprogrammer32

4 жыл бұрын

@@derangedemu I own them. I dont care what you think. They cost the same as 3 pairs of gas station headphones and god knows Ive gone through plenty of those before finally buying raycons.

@derangedemu

4 жыл бұрын

BlockOfWood get a pair of tin t2’s with a fiio Bluetooth adapter. Will last you waaaay longer and sound waaaaay better

When I was in my early teens I went cycling in the black forest in Germany when we were there on holiday. Before dinner I went cycling and got lost in the forest within minutes.... The next day I stumbled into a village miles away and one of the people whom I adressed recognized me from the evening news blurp about me and walked me over to the local police station. Its easy to get lost out in the wild. If the person you are looking for is also on the move (like was the case for me) its nigh impossible to find them unless you are very lucky to stumble upon them. They send helicopters, search parties etc etc to look for me but they were looking in the wrong place. But hey I made the news! The kids not beeing starved is also not to strange. In my case, I foraged some berries when I got a little hungry. Also chances are that if you live in a western country you can go days without food..... We are....well fed. Beeing lost for 1 or 2 days wont get you killed on account of having no food. Water is more likely to be a problem though. I was slightly dehydrated when I got found. Luckily for me I walked away from that with no injuries or whatnot but aside from the story with the weird christians most of these stories dont sound that very weird. Getting lost is suprisingly easy and when people are under severe stress their memories can be weird. Overlooking someone or something can also be easy when you are searching an area and when people are on the move its not so weird to find them in places where you have already looked. I dont think most are murder per se, some might be but dont underrestimate how easy it is to get lost.

@Balkancuga

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting story.There was some pedophile in my parts of country 5,6 months ago who kidnapped a 10 year old girl, he just got out of prison.He ran to the wild with her, beating her and raping.The wild around my town is probably 40 kilometres in each direction, so thats around 150km², army and the police were tracking them, dogs, helicopters with thermal cameras for almost a month.And at the end some old Gypsy saw them through the window :/ imagine American forests, how hard would it be to find a dead body, if they can't find a moving target on a small radius.

@johnnydjiurkopff

4 жыл бұрын

@@Balkancuga yeah, it's pretty wild sometimes. Back when I used to live in this little town called stirling city people who got lost in the woods would turn up in town every few months. I knew a tweaker that got lost on some of the old logging trails and spent damn near a month out there before he wandered to one of the local swimming holes I'd been partying at.

@Balkancuga

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnnydjiurkopff A month ago some 15 year old boy drowned in a lake, his phone and clothes were found on the beach.There are numerous stories like that.

@Bruh-hq1hx

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnnydjiurkopff that guy had bad luck

@spapeztheoctopus3249

4 жыл бұрын

I find the first one still a little weird with the whole freezing thing,

Something that's missing here is the testimony from the people who were found alive... Is that not a huge info gap??

@princejellyfish3945

4 жыл бұрын

Lol right, i was really waiting to hear what that kid had to say about being missing for three days.

@timespaceperspective701

4 жыл бұрын

they usually dont remember

@joerogers9413

4 жыл бұрын

Usually the children they find are to young to explain what happened. Or, at least, make any sense. For example, last year (2019) a 3 year old boy went missing in North Carolina. He was missing for three days in sub-zero temperatures. He was found alive and in perfect health and claimed a friendly bear took care of him.

@timespaceperspective701

4 жыл бұрын

@@joerogers9413 yeah there was a few stories where a bear or wolf takes care of the kid and feeds the kid berries

@themrpope4537

4 жыл бұрын

Time+space=perspective do you believe the kids? That some jungle book type thing happened and they just got taken care of by an animal that would ordinarily kill them?

It makes me sick to think that the last kid was probably murdered. Its actually terrifying

@lorddude123

4 жыл бұрын

no, big cat or large bird

@MarikHavair

4 жыл бұрын

@@lorddude123 No evidence of an animal attack on his clothes, only small punctures in his shirt, and no trace of blood. Doesn't sound like the work of an animal to me, not that I'm an expert or anything.

@Ipipeyourmom

4 жыл бұрын

lorddude123 then why is there no evidence to f an animal attack

@lorddude123

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ipipeyourmom there is a lot of other evidence that 411 leaves out. However if you watch the movie he interviews the searches who state it was likely a large cat or large bird. That was the conclusion most of the search and rescue officers came too. I did as well reviewing all the information

@psychomoon7185

4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes a vampire cat sucked his blood first and then ate it. Then it took the boys clothes and used them. Thats why they're so clean

I love these mysterious cases with an skeptic viewpoint. It makes them more interesting than saying "Aliens did it and the goverment fucking knows it"

"Near water" "Storm right after" "No evidence" The first two DEFINITELY aren't an explanation for the third....totally....

@floff7922

4 жыл бұрын

justin hope now why would that be the case???????

@lawyitkazuki5768

4 жыл бұрын

@@floff7922 storms can wash away evidence....and water can be used to clean up a mess

@floff7922

4 жыл бұрын

justin hope r/woooosh I was joking

@Bluetongue.

4 жыл бұрын

@@lawyitkazuki5768 cadaver dogs have been known to sniff out bodies submerged underwater though...

@lawyitkazuki5768

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bluetongue. the bodies are still there are they not? Water cant erase scent it can only wash it away if the bodies in the water the scent will still be smellable but if a tide washed it away then the scent goes away too

I went on a backpacking trip with my scout troop when I was 14 and we had this one kid in our troop with mild autism. He's typically high functioning and he'd been in our troop for a long time so we'd gotten used to not needing to pay as much attention to him. We were up in the Uintah Mountains here in Utah which are super rocky and full of bushes and other flora and hard to move through if you're not on the path and even sometimes when you are on the path. In the middle of the night at our first campsite, the kid gets up to go to the bathroom but it was number two so he had to go pretty far away from his tent and he forgot to grab his flashlight. So when he finished he started to walk back to camp but he didn't have a flashlight so he ended up walking 4 miles to the direct east of our campsite where he stumbled across some other people camping and was able to get in contact with us. Which is kind of insane for the topography of that region and all the dead fall around our campsite. Because of that I'm inclined to believe the first story with the autistic boy. The 3 days without water thing seems a bit absurd to me though, my intuition tells me that it was the parents doing it for attention at that point like that weather balloon story from Colorado.

@Sean-fu3mn

3 жыл бұрын

You should re-examine the weather balloon case. I know some ‘evidence’ seems like a smoking gun like the kid supposedly admitting it in the interview. But in the breakdowns after the fact that I’ve seen (with added evidence from the Father afterwords, such as the wife’s confession really being down to her lack of English comprehension among others) it’s very interesting and on second look leads me to actually believe the father not the accepted narrative.

@Sean-fu3mn

3 жыл бұрын

Internet historian has a very interesting breakdown and a follow up on his secondary channel :)

@kohinarec6580

3 жыл бұрын

Even a person with hindrances probably would drink from a stream, a puddle etc.

In the third case it really sounds like they went in suspecting the father, but then that is from his testimony which could carry bias. But I don't like the "there's no way the boy could have climbed up there" claim. People (adults) often underestimate how well children can climb things, and they have no idea what route he may have taken. It just seems like they're trying to increase the mystery by emphasizing some things that are not actually known. What disturbs me most about it, though, is just how careless the whole thing was. You've got a couple of young children with you and you decide to change the plan on a wing and do a 15mile hike? THEY probably weren't even properly prepared for it, let alone having a couple of kids who definitely were not prepared for it.

@gordonshumway9792

4 жыл бұрын

@@nicholashodges201 You just have to go to one of the boulder places (indoor climbing) and see how the children leave nearly every grown-up in the dust. As long as they can reach it they can climb it.

@horse14t

4 жыл бұрын

@@nicholashodges201 Right?! I used to climb to the tops of trees in my yard with ease as a kid. Rocks were no different. My uncle even called me Monkey Toes as a kid because of it.

@oddpoppetesq.3467

4 жыл бұрын

@@horse14t lol, my mum and brother used to call me MonkeyBoy because I'd climb everything I could. Even nearly bit my own tongue off scaling supermarket shelves when my mum wasn't watching 😆

@danielbyrne5402

4 жыл бұрын

youre dead on with the climbing thing, i could climb ANYTHING as a kid

@metralla

4 жыл бұрын

It is possible the adults hiking with the kids thought "someone in the group was given responsibility of these two kids and it wasn't me" and all of them thought the same. You have to be really dumb to let a 3 yo hike in the mountains and don't talk to the adults in the group. Stupidity breeds stupidity

There was a case like this near where I live. It was a runner during the mount marathon race in seward. The man was last seen as the last runner of the race at the top of the mountain then was never found. My father actually took part in the search because he knows that mountain well. Nothing was ever found of the missing person even through dogs, and thermal scans. My fathers theory is actually that the man was known to not see very well in the bottom half of his vision. So when he got to the top he tired to find an easier way down and fell down one of the many cliffs there are. Then his body was probably carried off by a bear. For us it seems to be the most logical explanation.

@nghtspawn651

4 жыл бұрын

But wouldn't the bear's scent be captured by the dogs?

@floff7922

4 жыл бұрын

N!GhTSpÄwN scent dogs are trained to search for a specific scent so that they dont alert to random scents. It is unlikely that a search dog would alert on the scent of the missing if a bear had picked up and moved the body because bears have a very strong scent that guide dogs up here are trained to not go near because of the dangers implicated by bears

@nghtspawn651

4 жыл бұрын

@@floff7922 interesting... Thanks for sharing this!

@floff7922

4 жыл бұрын

N!GhTSpÄwN no problem, I studies search and rescue dogs for a year as well as have had many friends train their dogs in search and rescue so I love to share information

@harvestmoon1033

4 жыл бұрын

Nah homie, it was a Sasquatch or inter dimensional being. They can shape shift to a Bear as well though

Parents taking their... *ahem "special" child to Mount Disappointment? Seems like some kind of foreshadowing...

@mtgAzim

4 жыл бұрын

@Michael Reed nope, I'm not saying that at all. I just thought it was a fitting name for the place.

@jimjob1056

4 жыл бұрын

@Michael Reed i really hope you wouldn't treat an autistic child poorly just because they're autistic

@sezbethc2765

4 жыл бұрын

@Michael Reed Dogs like dogs, cats like cats and virgin edgelords like virgin edgelords. Hey, you're right - this does work!

@darkvioletcloud

4 жыл бұрын

@Michael Reed You really don't understand how autism works, do you?

@alexh2947

3 жыл бұрын

@Michael Reed wow how edgy

A few personal notes on the last case; 1. I wouldn't expect Military to be deployed for a helicopter crash like this, I would expect Paramedics but if there are serious military personnel this sounds like the Helicopter's fuel tank was sabotaged either by hand or by someone who could target it in flight without being directly noticed. 2.The Dad would have been one of the first suspects in a potential murder however from the weirdness of the situation I have to wonder where the 6y/o went in the middle of this, I do not expect her to socialize very well with a group of adults (especially Christian Singles, that puts them in their 20's at least) so she should have been with her brother for a majority of the time but instead she is suspended from the narrative even though she is the main cultivator of the situation, the "communication" between all of the adults. If the caretaker for the "kids" was only in charge of the boy while another the daughter, then I would suspect a pedo in the group, but the one overall that wasn't aware of being in charge of the kids sounds more like simple manipulation tactics, that with the addition of the boy supposedly yelling in a playful manner while the Father's tracks never being found in the area lean me to the daughter having a more fundamental part in the boy's disappearance. 3. I doubt that a 3y/o would have much foreknowledge about bears other than that they exist, and wilderness exploration wouldn't be a strong suit either. From my understanding a 3y/o would have to be prompted about bears in order to ask anyone, and that knowledge could be skewed beyond recollection, He could think that some foot tall midget bear is chasing him and because he's too young to fight it he has to jump in the water naked to avoid it. 4. On the police communication, plenty could be going on but overall I expect that there was a miss-translation on Alan's part where "If" there was a body in the water it would be "preserved" for up to four years, or that seasonal rapids made the potential recovery of a body hard to do timely and then the 4 year time skip to planted clothing. Alan's not entirely a reliable source when it comes to his personal touches. 5. For how I put this together, someone had to Connect with the kid enough for them to be playful, convince the child to strip naked (could be by force), convince the other 11+ adults and his sister to isolate him, know how to communicate with the Father to let the kids go on the trip through 1 conversation, have the strength to move a 3y/o kid around, and have a method of breaking a skull without causing the kid to call for help. This could easily be a horror of errors but the common character is the Boy's Sister, if Anybody wanted to get at the boy it would have to be through her. It has been long enough that Innocent or not the girl could just as easily have forgotten the events as she could feign ignorance of them. But still - the absolute disappearance of the kid's sister in the narrative is completely bonkers, I expect Alan, the author of missing 411 to ignore that because he's a conspiracy nut who doesn't really care, but for the police to just completely forget about her is strange as she'd be the most likely to know what happened. So I suspect that the 6y/o indeed *was* interrogated and threw off the police by communicating that the Father and Uncle had some kind of appearance in the narrative, true or not. Anywhere between 1 to 13 people could have some kind of coordination to cause harm to the child and that's probably where the investigators drew the line to restrict volunteers and family from searching, too many suspects. Except the most important one who would have the strongest lead was eventually ignored. It's 12:30 in the morning, I've spent two hours breaking this down, tl:dr The Daughter knows who did it but some amount of ineptitude by investigators prevented them from using her as a utility in the search. That's the end of the mystery and it's depressing. Night.

@armouredskeptic

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this - I agree with almost everything you said here. The dad was clearly a suspect based on they way they treated him and lied to him.

@crabtrap

3 жыл бұрын

i appreciate your thoughtful wright up but; you are running on a lot of assumptions in the 3yold's case. in the film Missing 411, there is much more indepth info and it makes your theory not fit.

@kitashikaangel3020

3 жыл бұрын

@@crabtrap Could you add any major details?

Hansel & Gretel is a classic... we've just dumped the witch & her candy house for aliens these days. They're both dark af retellings of just as dark realities. : /

@danieldsantiagorodriguez4955

3 жыл бұрын

This! Couldn't have said it better myself.

I didn’t even realize you still made videos. Not a single one of them comes up in my feed anymore.

@aprayingatheist2378

4 жыл бұрын

Re-subscribe and click the notification bell

@cronecrone5498

4 жыл бұрын

Same here

@EcoCrat

4 жыл бұрын

Same!!

Creepy in that "you know the odds, try to not become a statistic" part of someone's knowledge bank.

Can we take a moment to appreciate what would have caused someone to name something mt. disappointment.

@VaporeonEnjoyer1

3 жыл бұрын

The founder lost her virginity there.

@Krieger-jo2kf

3 жыл бұрын

I looked it up. A survey team was trying to survey the area. When observed from a distance, they believed that Mt Disappointment was the tallest peak in the area. When they got too the top, they realized another peak was actually the tallest in the area. They named it Disappointment for that reason.

@kohinarec6580

3 жыл бұрын

The view was meh.

@somethingelse4424

2 жыл бұрын

Dad: Hey son pack your bags, we're going to six flags! *Four Hours Later* Me: Where are the rides? Can we go on Batman first?! Dad: Welcome to Mt. Disappointment. It reminded me of you, and how you could use an exercise in building character.

There’s a very sinister thing happening where I live that makes me think it could be something worse. Many police officers in my state are being suspected for Human trafficking and they’re having a hard time working through it because it’s all a big game of who knows who and what deals are made between who. But many of these cases have heavy trafficking vibes, I’m not an expert by any means, it’s just a feeling I’m getting from the police “incompetence” and such.

@Kowzorz

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's where I thought Cause 5 was headed. It explains why some just show back up some time later too -- trail too hot or perhaps the kid didn't take well. I wonder what any of the victims themselves (if they do show back up. I know the rate is low) have to say about the experience. In the video's example, I have to imagine getting information out of an autistic child would be a bit more difficult.

@doxasophosmoros

4 жыл бұрын

Don't blame the police they are only you human, not fuclong . Superheroes. blame the people who did it, and bring awareness to why it's wrong to be a pedo or a sexual predator and why porn etc ruins and desensitized society, proven kver and over again. Don't expect police to fix your fucking problems. In most of the world, police don't even exist (hence why they are ahitholes and dangerous af)

@mfbqboqbjmbijxk8050

4 жыл бұрын

kaboom WTF?

@Necromantia_ad_Immortuos

4 жыл бұрын

kaboom What are you even talking about? I was just saying that some of these cases sound like trafficking, which in my state is hard to figure out because a decent portion of the force is in on it. This isn’t a conspiracy, officers have been convicted and proven.

@dalailarose1596

4 жыл бұрын

@@doxasophosmoros lol I'd trust porn over police any day. I used to make it, after all 😜

I feel like the murder theory makes sense but it doesnt explain the weirder coincidences. I suppose the murder theory does explain why the bodies show up so far from where the parents claim the child last was and why bodies of water play a consistent role (dumping bodies). Also, even in the cases where the kid is found alive it could simply be attempted murder; the parent just claimed that they lost the child when really they dumped them off in the woods and told authorities they were no where near where they actually were. I would also like to say that when people suffer from hypothermia they tend to remove clothing because the body tricks the mind into believeing theyre warm (for some reason). But the murder theory doesnt explain everything. The strange amount of police negligence is odd. And the more you look into it the more obvious it seems that the park service DOES NOT want people to know about how large the number of missing people is (possibly to not hurt tourism)? Furthermore coincidences like shoes found way too far from the body are vastly confusing, and a strange number of cases feature kids who dont even remember the time they spent missing. Maybe this is caused by trauma? But yeah. The strange coincidences sure are strange. Id honestly love to see you look deeper into this weird set of stories.

@khornatekrieger3023

4 жыл бұрын

I'd think its a combo of all the above. Parents want a 'burdensome' kid gone. Claim they wandered off or otherwise went missing. Natty park doesn't really want it to impact tourism despite most of the folks wanting to help whoever is involved. Police have other things in mind or care about than trekking in the woods to hunt some wandering kid who they convince themselves will wander back in due time. Its a combo of human issues rather than just one explaining all of it. We all want one simple, nice and neat answer. Life refuses that on continual basis I've found.

@LoisoPondohva

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not intending that as a dig at your desire to look deeper, but: police negligence IS the norm. At least in the US and a couple of other countries that I had an unpleasure to work close to them or encounter/need them. And I mean that not in the only anecdotal sense. There are quite general, I would suspect, almost universal practices and systems that contribute to that. As for national parks and info on lost people, they are not required to gather, keep, process or share that information. And in such cases you can't really expect from organisations to do so on their own accord. As a general rule that public relations for business and agencies adhere to: if you are not required to tell - don't.

@clayxros576

4 жыл бұрын

And as a wise man once said, "There's no such thing as coincidence."

@thebackgroundguy9491

4 жыл бұрын

@@clayxros576 That wise old man doesn't sound so wise.

@clayxros576

4 жыл бұрын

@@thebackgroundguy9491 In my experience it is very wise, actually.

"I was watching them when they tumbled off the trail, and just kept walking." -culpable, gross negligence "I hadn't checked on them for a few miles, but when I did, they were gone." - irresponsible, gross negligence "I was watching my little Timmy like a hawk keeps watch over her clutch. I withdrew my gaze for but a moment to take a sip from my canteen, and when I looked back, poor little Timmy had *gasp* vanished." -Grade A parenting, horrible tragedy It's all too convenient that when the victim is a special needs/very young child they just disappeared; one second they're there, the next, they're gone. That doesn't happen, and it's a way too convenient way for a parent to exaggerate their vigilance in the situation. It's also a convenient way to make the occurrence sound more dramatic, more tragic, less... suspect. If somebody says something fantastical like that to me, the most generous assumption I can make about that is that they're misremembering what happened because they can't accept what happened, they're hysterical. But my personal incredulity does not beget probably cause, and I don't blame officers for wanting to be as sympathetic as possible to parents who are in a horrible mental/emotional state (even if they murdered the child in cold blood, they're going to be effected on some level, and that shit shows). "They're being really dramatic about this, so it must be strange, unusual, or even supernatural." It's just really difficult to tap into your skeptical brain when you have a hysterical mess of a parent who might never see their child again in front of you, and whether the parent realizes it or not, that paranormal vanishing act lends itself very well to that kind of perception of a person's story.

@marshallahonen

3 жыл бұрын

"That doesn't happen..." As a child, I would frequently disappear in a matter of moments in many different environments. ADHD combined with extreme curiosity and an almost total lack of an instinct for survival create many "impossible" situations.

@TheSpartanFactor

3 жыл бұрын

@@marshallahonen I don't doubt your experience, but I don't think you fully understand what I'm getting at. My point doesn't so much hinge on the idea that it's impossible for somebody to vanish in large fractions of a second, but that a parent MUST exaggerate their vigilance lest they be perceived as negligent. Even in cases where a totally reasonable amount of oversight was taken, if a child goes missing, I expect a parent to exaggerate just how closely they were watching, because in that situation the blame defaults to them.

@ziegfeld4131

2 жыл бұрын

You obv have never spent anytime watching kids they can and will just disappear onnyou if you dont watch them like a hawk

So, commenting at 6:07 I have a bit of a story (which I was to young to remember so it's second hand) but I apparently disappeared for a while when I was young (I think around the age of diapers but able to walk or just getting out of diapers maybe). My mother noticed is wasn't around so she looked for me. Couldn't kind me. At some point she searched the entire house, my father was called (I think with a bag phone thing in his car). When he got home, he searched the house. They were also probably looking outside (main natural environment concern being a body of water near by, but there were also poisonous snakes that could live near by and a road at the end of the driveway that someone could have picked me up at). Before the police could get there though I came walking out of the house. As if I just woke up from a nap. To this day it's a mystery as to where I was.

@HaloForgeUltra

3 жыл бұрын

That's interesting. Lots of weird shit like that nowadays. Does make you wonder how little we truly know about the universe, or if the human psyche is just that flawed.

@Sean-fu3mn

3 жыл бұрын

This happens to my cat😂 I’d assume the mystery was just that you got somewhere strange like idk somehow behind a washing machine or something and fell asleep while they were looking for you lol.

@shawn576

3 жыл бұрын

I went missing as a kid while camping. I was like 3 or 4 and I took a nap in an odd place. I was missing for several hours while family started searching the area.

I've camped on mount disappointment a few times, there is some dense bush up there, not like the kind of forests you see in north america, and the terrain is pretty wild at places, you can be 10 metres off the track and not be able to see anything, easy to get lost quickly. I can absolutely believe a kid with developmental issues could get lost and not be found for days up there, especially if he didn't respond to shouts/calls for whatever reason.

@Hobosdkcheese

4 жыл бұрын

There’s no reasonable way a person can survive sub zero temps without warm clothing. He had a t shirt on. I can buy that maybe he found a cave, maybe he found hanging fruit/berries/an animal etc. but even then I find it almost impossible to survive that kind of cold and while this may not be a true fact, the presumed fact he didn’t just devour a sugary chocolate bar is really odd.

@BRUHItsABunny

4 жыл бұрын

yea had it not been for the weather i would come to a similar conclusion

@Whitewingdevil

4 жыл бұрын

@@BRUHItsABunny I have some reservations about the whole "Sub-Zero conditions" part of the story. Victoria can get cold, but mount disappointment typically doesn't see snow and the majority of the state never dips below zero at all, even in the dead of winter.

@BRUHItsABunny

4 жыл бұрын

@@Whitewingdevil mhm i see, fair enough that makes sense

@Hobosdkcheese

4 жыл бұрын

@@Whitewingdevil Can't we check what the weather was like on that day?

Okay, the pants-less mannequin is a bit distracting...

@MarikHavair

4 жыл бұрын

He's not pants-less... He's wearing underpants!

@TheZapan99

3 жыл бұрын

June has custody of the pants.

This doesn't really explain much, but when people freeze t death, they do a thing called " hysterical unclothing". They get manic and ripp all their clothes off.

@joshuahadams

3 жыл бұрын

It’s caused by your body literally giving up on trying to keep the warm in, and all the blood vessels that had been contracted to slow blood flow open up, and the warm blood going through your skin makes it feel like you’re burning up with a fever.

omg im so glad someone somewhat influential finally did this. Missing 411 is something im on a bit of a crusade against. While there are some genuine mysteries, as somone who grew up in the backwoods of Canada where every year a few ppl would die usually of arrogance while trying to trek around the area, I think the whole thing makes light of how easy it is to get forever lost in even a relatively small patch of woods. Edit: made that comment going in. having watched it, my opinion doesnt change much. "Forever lost", as a normal thing includes 4 out of 5 conclusions. I only postuale a 6th: sometimes people just get truly lost.

@canislupus4655

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone else feels this way! I'm from the backwoods of the U.S. and Missing 411 bugs me to no end. I hate how people will bring up whatever scary number of missing people there are and then only focus on the few very strange cases that exist. Not to mention everyone always pointing to "I only looked away for a second," as if that's at all credible. Not to mention that it only takes a second for people to be swept away by rivers, even if they look slow.

@cernanwinterfox85

2 жыл бұрын

@@canislupus4655 I wasn't even thinkng about rivers per sei, but that too. Ppl dont understand that speed and strength of current are not necessarily the same. A large river can be very slow, but be completely overpowering if you try to fight it and swim upstream.

Check out the smiley face murders. Theres this retired detective who put together files on files of murders of young men. All of them went missing near water and are found weeks later in said body of water. Get this though: their state of decomposition is nowhere near weeks long submersion and they are often found with injuries that suggest restraint and torture. When revisits of the disappearance or recovery sights are done there have been found graffiti of smiley faces.

@jordanious7711

4 жыл бұрын

Thats kinda interesting. Would make for a good movie.

@Vortez137

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Red John is on the loose again...

@sneeblads

3 жыл бұрын

i thought that was interesting but the sheer number of smiley face graffiti makes it all too possible to be just coincidence imo. if there were a distinct, repeated smiley design that would be an integral part of the story and be mentioned allllll the time so they must just be counting any smiley face

@jordanious7711

3 жыл бұрын

@@sneeblads Kind of true.. When you see stuff like that happen in movies it'll be spray painted across an entire wall in the house making it obvious. But making it so big and obvious would make it harder to go in after the fact and mark it like that.. Not impossible tho

I miss your devil and angel minions. You made them a lot of fun. Hopefully they will come back.

You should consider option 6: Accident that was covered up out of fear for potential interpersonal, social and/or professional repercussions.

@who_the_fuck_is_riley5813

3 жыл бұрын

Could be looped in with some of the others really. Like a neglectful parent + an accident

Damn this was just a 30 min trailer 😂 I can't wait to see more.

That Snoop Dogg impression was uncanny

@inazuma-fulgur

4 жыл бұрын

Huh where

Got one for ya: The Bennington Triangle Its got everything you would want - Missing Peoples cases that haven't been explained, Bigfoot sightings, UFO sightings, weird/unexplained lights in the middle of the forest, haunted Native Burial grounds, and a Man-eating Rock! Honestly nothing says unexplained like the NE area.

@schwarzesonne6529

4 жыл бұрын

Lovecraft wrote most his material there for a reason

"According to Larimer County Search and Rescue’s report, searchers on foot had never made it up to the 9,120 foot elevation at Jaryd’s skull and tooth were found. The Air Force helicopter would have likely searched the area had it not crashed." Just saying Jared was above where search and rescue searched

I've always been of the mindset with the missing 411 that most of these aren't quite what David thinks they are, but I do believe a fraction of them are legit. It's easy to get carried away with speculation when answers aren't easy to find.

@crabtrap

3 жыл бұрын

the solve the fucking mystery. but i guess you know better then the thousands of searchers and detectives that can't seem to figure this out. also figure out for us WHY the US NATIONAL park service doesn't keep records on missing people that number in the thousands???

@abesan70

3 жыл бұрын

Most of these stories lack definitive evidence to make sense of what really happened and even more so for any of the more exotic explanations. When a person with dementia goes missing for days in their own neighborhood and turns up we may never know what intervened in the lapsed time, probably a lot of scared aimless wandering. We don’t have to speculate anything more than what we can account for. Someone got lost..... because a wolf did it, might as well blame it on kidnapping squirrels until otherwise proven.

@crabtrap

3 жыл бұрын

@@abesan70 i guess you miss the part of the people traveling 10-15 miles over mountainous terrain, and being found with completely clean clothes. i have have backpacked my a mountain range and National park. that doesn't happen. one account the boy traveled 12miles at night. the boys in now a 60yold man and never had any recollection of traveling, he only remember the rescue. you comment is more an indictment on your own lack of indurstanding of nature and human capability. i get it....you don't want to accept the more"exotic explainations" but at what point do you become skeptical of thousands of missing persons in our nat parks as being"oh a molester get him" "oh a lion eat him and folded his clothes" "oh his mom killed him and carried him up 4,000ft altitude" . you can see how absurd those explainations are from your armchair. again if it was that "obvious" im pretty sure FBI,Park Service and state police could have figured it out. these aren't local yocal police working these cases usually.

@danieldsantiagorodriguez4955

3 жыл бұрын

@@crabtrap Reddit is not a realiable source of information. If that isn't your sorce, please point to which. Especially point to me the case of this supposed "old man" who was said lost child that aged rapidly. One would think a case like that would get good coverage.

@crabtrap

3 жыл бұрын

@@danieldsantiagorodriguez4955 what the hell are you babbling about??? i never mentioned or use 'REddit'. I Never claim any one "aged rapidly". the testimony is from Missing 411 documentary, it is also documented by the news papper and polce of the time

Honestly, murder does seem very likely for a lot of this. If I hypothetically wanted to get rid of a child, particularly a disabled one, "losing" them in the wilderness would for sure be one of the first things I'd think of. It's a pretty obvious way to get rid of someone without getting caught, particularly a child who is either too young or mentally disabled to tell the tale if it doesn't work out.

@DecisiveZoom

4 жыл бұрын

Right? find a cliff or a river just a small bump walk around a bit claim you lost sight of the person a mile or so away from where they "tripped"

@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't want a "skeptic" on my jury.

@KreeZafi

4 жыл бұрын

@@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845 What do you mean?

@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845

4 жыл бұрын

@@KreeZafiYou jump to murder because of the anomalies instead of saying I.Don't.Know

@KreeZafi

4 жыл бұрын

@@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845 I'm not saying that for sure is the explanation, just that I think it seems likely. At no point did I say I KNOW, it's just speculation. I wouldn't fucking convict someone or whatever without evidence.

"No concern of predators" when it comes to other human beings, is there ever not a concern of predators?

"our dogs can track your son's scent" "ok well my son's clothes are in the-" "no. take off your shorts" ??????

@crisptomato9495

3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure they considered the dad a suspect.

@shawn576

3 жыл бұрын

@@crisptomato9495 100%. They were convinced enough that they wanted dogs to search for dad's smell in the woods, and they didn't want the dad in the woods to fuck it up and sidetrack the dogs. In addition, they didn't trust the dad to give a reliable sample of what the kid smelled like, but they know what the dad smells like, so they'll go with that instead. He must have given the impresison that he was lying when saying where he was. He says he wasn't there when the kid goes missing and that he immediatley drove to the site to look for his son, but some elements of his story didn't add up, so they assume he was there and try to get dogs to verify it.

FINALLY! Have loved diving into the 411 stuff and this is something that’s right up skeptics alley.

I love hearing about missing 411 cases. The theory I like the most are that they are fairies that live in granite.

@spicylemon9339

4 жыл бұрын

Can you point me to more of this it sounds interesting

@somethingnotidiotic1629

4 жыл бұрын

@@spicylemon9339 My thoughts on it are that when the genuinely unexplainable 411 cases happened in the old world it would be blamed on fairies. Lots of myths about fairies are about how they would abduct someone, usually a child, and bring them to their land, then leave them around where they found the child. Which sounds a lot like 411 cases. The first time I heard about the fairy connection was from a podcast called the paranormies. Just google paranormies 411 and you'll find the episode.

You noticed the mentions of a "bear" protecting and feeding the kids who have been found alive days later? That´s what the kids told the medics in several cases. Very strange.

@harvestmoon1033

4 жыл бұрын

Probably thought it was a Bear when it was a Sasquatch

I live around the area of mount disappointment. Check out “Picnic at Hanging Rock” probably the eeriest place around here, There is a movie about a group of girls going missing there, it might be just a story there.

As an Australian and mother of 3 autistic children I don't find the first boys behaviour odd at all. It is not uncommon for individuals with ASD to not feel or be as effected by pain or temp changes and if the are a picky eater they will sometimes eat less and be used to this (it is a constant struggle to get my youngest boy to eat but thankfully he is still within a health weight range). Also they often prefer not to wear shoes, as they are often experiencing sensory overload and the bush could be very calming for them. It is not uncommon for those with more server ASD to stand or hold their body oddly for long periods and be lost in their own world. My eldest has explained he feels the passage of time differently and so will feel like no time at all has gone by at all, so it's possible that William didn't feel like he was alone for as long as he was. TLDR , the lost Aussie boy displayed typical autistic behaviours and they way they found he was not that odd. (I have 3 autistic children & a further 5 people in my family have autism)

@jordanious7711

4 жыл бұрын

I immediately had the same feeling. I could 100% imagine an autistic child HIDING from the search party out of embarrassment or anxiety and only "approaching" someone once he became desperate. Even when he was found it sounded like he was scared of actually approaching the guy. I don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of these missing stories are children.. Children can wander off without thinking and generally won't think logically when they realize they're lost. The last people to see these children would say "i only looked away for a second and he had completely vanished" bbbbbut how often have you heard that exact thing from parents in supermarkets? "I was watching him really closely, i turned away to grab some milk an he had vanished". It's really not hard for a kid to just wander off an get lost, especially in a forest LUL

When are you going to debunk all of the conspiracies that you’ve proposed to make a point about how non-skeptical we are?

@tamonk9054

4 жыл бұрын

At this point they’re easy to debunk

@asdfasdfasdf111666

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah he's been making them

@Freak80MC

4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait until he debunks how bad Raycons are... Oh wait Dankpods just did today oof

@armouredskeptic

4 жыл бұрын

I believe my exact words were: "...give you guys the role of being the debunker" Don't try to bait me, now

@abonynge

4 жыл бұрын

​@@tamonk9054 But we want him to debunk the conspiracies he pretended to believe. Otherwise those videos were worthless and just added to conspiracy nuts believing more things.

Your multifaceted approach and break down of these mysteries is masterful. I truly enjoy the way your videos really make me think and question ideas. This series is my favorite so far. Thank you for your work. 😊👍

My theory on the autistic kid's (Will) disappearence: The parents wanted to get rid of their kid: leaving an autistic kid to die on mount DISAPPOINTMENT kind of like leaving a message to God that they didn't approve of what they got. But before night fall Will was found and abducted by a possible pedophile which means he was not out in the freezing cold wilderness without food and water but probably received trauma from whatever his abductor done to him. However when the disappearence of Will and the search for him started the abductor got scared they might get found out an on the third day released Will in the forest where he was found.

It... it sounds like Jayden was abducted and years later, after Jayden died, the abductor planted his clothes

@deskrabbit2190

4 жыл бұрын

Somewhere they would think is far enough away that it would be reasonable that they weren't found initially

@The-Cole-Train

4 жыл бұрын

I would accept that, but the initial disappearance is the factor holding me back. Someone grabbing a kid and no one ever seeing the kid, nor the kidnapper is iffy to me.

@brazenatheist1676

4 жыл бұрын

@@The-Cole-Train nah, i think that whole "11 adults" thing is the cops questioned people and they probably had no idea how many people were actually in their group, if there was one creepy pedo tagging along that they just assumed was slow but really he was seeing who was in charge or taking care of this kid and he disappeared mid way through, I don't think these people would of noticed, they didn't seem to give a shit about the kids, they went how many, 15 miles away? No one said "I'll take the children back, that's too far"? why assume they had any clue how many were really in their group?

@loyalzerg

4 жыл бұрын

@@brazenatheist1676 I still can't understand why the father would let his 3 year old go with 11 strangers who, being single, likely have no real child care experience. Makes me think he had something to do with it.

@NikosiaMateas

4 жыл бұрын

@@The-Cole-Train - As someone who goes hiking semi-regularly, I can say that a) sound doesn't travel far in the forest, and b), on uneven terrain it's REALLY easy to lose visual contact with a hiking partner. Even if they stop for 5 minutes and you keep going, that's enough to essentially isolate you. And if someone's LOOKING to become invisible... Much easier in a forest than in a city street. This is why hiking in small groups is so essential. If you get hurt, ain't no one gonna find you if you've set off alone.

isn't it crazy that missing person cases that have certain details in common have certain details is common

@bryanlinsmeyer3521

4 жыл бұрын

sure is an interesting coincidence, huh

The general rule for cryptids is that they’re either owls or rotting basking sharks

@inazuma-fulgur

4 жыл бұрын

Wrong channel mate Still kinda funny

@LadyViscera

4 жыл бұрын

Inazuma-Fulgur It’s true though. I’m not just making a reference to Trey. Basically all cryptids are either dead bloated animals, scary nocturnal creatures in the dark or straight up hoaxes.

@inazuma-fulgur

4 жыл бұрын

@@LadyViscera lol okay I mean yes but not here

@LadyViscera

4 жыл бұрын

Inazuma-Fulgur Skeptic is considering making videos on cryptids, so I think it’s plenty appropriate.

@userequaltoNull

3 жыл бұрын

For anyone who doesn't get the reference, they're talking about TREY The Explainer .

It's not a comment on the families, but the 'I only looked away for ten seconds' thing that shows up very commonly in these stories likely isn't accurate. My parents very much subscribed to the overly paranoid helicopter school of parenting, and I can't count the number of times me or one of my brothers got lost in supermarkets while our parents were comparing the prices on different brands of soup. I don't mean to suggest that the families are lying or are to blame (except in cases where they were clearly negligent), just that what feels like 10 seconds looking at a map or digging through your backpack might not really be 10 seconds, and especially when you have more than one child it's easy to get distracted.

along the same vain of crazyness look up the amount of people that go missing on highways.

I'm glad to see that at the end skeptic was like "yeah this really isn't some crazy conspiracy, shit's not really reputable"

This video really blew my mind, your take here was great and I had never thought about intentionally disappearing someone, can't wait for more of this series

@danieldsantiagorodriguez4955

3 жыл бұрын

Hänsel and Gretel weren't just a fairytale. It was also a reflection of human reality.

I haven’t watch this dude in long time. I was like “who this Jesus looking dude” then I was like “oh...ooh.. it’s him, dam” it’s been that long

Okay but for the story with Will Callaghan, what exactly was his story for what happened when he was gone for those three days? Like, so he just appeared out of nowhere and was perfectly fine. Sure. Let's run with that. But HOW did he do it? The way this video ends makes it sound super ambiguous, with just a 'Yeah I guess it's possible to survive in those conditions' But why speculate when you have a literal living witness to the thing you're speculating on!? I understand he's autistic and all, but surely he must have given SOME kind of story, even if it wouldn't be the most coherent thing ever.

@QuinnArgo

4 жыл бұрын

There's multiple people who reappeared apparently, I also want to know what their story is

@hiddelsubbledees458

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuinnArgo If adults "reappear" they usually claim to suffer from amnesia. children on the other hand come up with the craziest shit. one claimed he had been living in a cave with a robot doppelganger of his grandma, multiple kids claimed bears/wolffes carried them away and cared for them/fed them. Make of that what you will

@QuinnArgo

3 жыл бұрын

@@hiddelsubbledees458 that's weird, and it sounds kinda Lovecraftian. In any case, thanks a lot ^^

@magdalenaswiatek90

3 жыл бұрын

autistic folks are often nonverbal - either completely or partially. He may not be able to talk at all or just not able to talk in/about specific situations. So he might not have given his parents/police officers any kind of a story

@mr.treefrog8641

3 жыл бұрын

@@magdalenaswiatek90 you are wrong on all your statements. I'd read up on autism before making a comment like that...

I just wanna say I really appreciate this kind of content. I really like to listen to conspiracy theories as they are pretty entertaining even if not true, however I cannot take the over the top theatrics. You are filling a new niche that I’ve been looking for for quite some time so thank you.

That picture of the dad holding Jaryd’s skull is just so powerful

Bruh my fist introduction to this stuff was the "don't look at them, don't go up them" stories about stairs in the woods. I knew it was almost definitely exaggerated for effect, but it did get me interested.

I have followed Paulides for a long time and I have always thought the exact same thing, though as stated, there are a couple very strange ones, and he does present himself in an entertaining way. I'd love to see you cover Skinwalker Ranch :D

Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

Imagine all the Harry Potter universe stories where "wizards" are just screwing with muggles. Every conspiracy theory is one of those stories.

That people are often found weirdly far from where they disappeared, or at a significantly higher or lower elevation makes sense to me. If you realise you're lost, what are your options? You either stand still and wait for rescue crews to find you, you make your best guess of where the rest of the group might be and start walking, or you make a guess at where the nearest road is and you start walking. If you think walking far enough to find something is your only hope, and especially if you walk instead of sleeping you're likely to cover a lot of ground. People are inclined to deliberately walk up hill to see if they can get a better view of their surroundings, or to unintentionally walk down hill because it's easier. EDIT: Not to suggest that you should pick a direction and keep walking. Your best bet is as soon as you realise you're lost to find a clearing with an unobstructed view of the sky and arrange sticks and stones into a large equilateral triangle visible from the air. Even if you end up needing to move away from the triangle to find water, once a search begins, search crews will at least have an accurate idea of where you were and can factor that into the search area.

Interesting stuff. Would love to see more like this.

Skeppy is really starting to look like “TheAnimeMan.”

I can vouch that is a 100 percent accurate snoop dogg impersonation... like twins

I get lost at my local supermarket every week. I seriously lack in three dimensional perception. I also once went exploring a wooded depression of ground, like a crayer of sorts, near my home. It began to snow and I lost my tracks and ended several hundred yards off my starting point. It took me a long time to find my backpack I left by a stone. Imagine that in a deep forest and no wonder people end up missing.

"Let's hear from out sponsor, Ra-" *Expecting a terrible phone game* "-ycon!" Oh thank God

Paradoxical undressing is a likely reason for some of these events.

As an Australian I have to say the idea of people being murdered in national parks and the authorities covering it up makes most sense. The Ivan Milat/Backpacker murders took years to solve and that was only because the Milats were well known to authorities already and Ivan himself would talk about the murders. To this day authorities are unsure how many he was responsible for en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpacker_murders

It's a good thing David does not draw conclusions from his work, and just presents the data.

"Pow Dray River Resort" As a native Coloradoan, I'm pretty sure it's pronounced "pooder". Weird-ass word, honestly.

@caveymoley

4 жыл бұрын

It's the French word for powder. It's pronounce "pood-ruh " (in French)

I feel like I've been climbing Mount Disappointment my whole life.

I live in Melbourne, Victoria, and remember when Will went missing. Didn't realise it made it as a possible conspiracy, but it was so shocking (and thankfully relieving) when he was found alive and seemingly fine after being out there alone for so long.

Loved this video!! I have a few suggestions, too. The stairs in the woods I think would make for a cool video. They lead to nowhere and are surrounded by no other debris. And maybe even looking into some of the unsolved stuff from your own province in Canada? Just some thoughts. Anyways, I’m looking forward to this series!!

Just saying i love your content Stay safe

The last one sounded like a lot of he said. The father makes claims of mishandling the case but here is no rebuttal mentioned from the authorities. Either the dad sounds fishy there or Paulidies is changing the story. A likely possibility the child was abducted. "Bad things" happened to him. His body was hidden sans clothes. Animals got to it and drug it up mountain. Most of the bones were eaten since a child's bones are smaller and weaker.

People get lost in the woods. Where do you find a lot of woods? In Provincial and National parks. "He just came out of the mist." That's how mist works. "They are found near water." Almost all of us live near water. Children, when lost, tend to stop when they get tired and crawl under bushes or into leaves when cold. Adults don't. This is why so many children are found alive and fewer adults. "He was found close to search command." That's how searches work.

Missing shoes has been symbolism since Cinderella or even older.

Guys theres a lot more to this than just the few incidents, theres patterns and shit that cant be explained as just coincidences. If you look into it on your own you will see.

I’ve actually been waiting for you to get into this topic. Good vid, can’t wait for more! Edit: Could you talk about those 5 cases that are truly baffling? I’d love to hear about it.

Having kids, I am no longer surprised of how FAST people can disappear. I have personally observed my son go from "being just over there" to "where the HECK is he!!" in the time it takes to look from one side to the other. It is mostly just a matter of appearing like he is going in one direction, and then change direction and stepping out of my direct sight.

Easily accessible but remote means that less experienced people will end up in areas way bigger than they're used to, and that the trails likely aren't as well maintained or signposted as people might be used to. You're also unlikely to come across another person to ask for help if you do get separated from your family. Looking at those photos, the woods look incredibly dense compared to anything I'm used to. I can imagine 20 feet of the trees at 8:20 being enough to totally obscure somebody.

I mean, obviously I’m ready to find out more... but isn’t it just caves

@OssamabinKenny

4 жыл бұрын

Nope

8:25 We have gotten barely into the introduction and I was just hit by a really bad feeling regarding what these disappearances might be caused by. Gonna call it then edit this comment later to see if I hit the nail. Parents with special needs kids purposefully "losing" their kids in the woods then kicking up a ruckus to they are absolved of suspicion. 26:50 It makes me uncomfortable that I called this based on a feeling, yet here we are.

The best skeptical response to the Missing 411 so far, especially regarding the unfortunate explanation of why so many of the disappeared people have disabilities. I'd be interested to hear Armoured Skeptic's opinion on the city disappearances, or generally the other end of the spectrum of the disappeared - why so many of them are highly intelligent, excellent individuals (I guess apart from overconfidence of wilderness experts or them wanting to disappear, since many of the young star pupils end up found mysteriously dead in water).

This is one I've watched twice and found it hard to comment on because there's a lot of tragedy that I don't want to make light of. But as wild conspiracy theories go, I think we're missing one: parallel Earth. I don't think anyone can really argue that this Earth is chaos and, well, frankly, Hell. So it stands to reason that if parallel universes existed, one that is "like" ours, but idyllic, could exist. And if it's a friendlier, more perfect Earth, then it stands to reason that the overlaps that form gateways would be in the areas that are more scenic and beautiful parts of nature. So conditions may be freezing or inhospitable on OUR Earth, but accidentally walking into a parallel Earth that's idyllic, they're nicer, warmer, more life-positive and thus easy to survive in. Who would even want to leave? But eventually the parallel Perfect Earth spits them back out because they don't belong there. And then they don't survive back on our Hell Earth. (Or, if they're lucky, they're found before they die.) And there you have it, the perfect explanation. Of course, do I believe it? Heck no. But is it possible? Let me roll my D100 ... ,000,000 and get back to you with the results. Meanwhile a combination of murder, suicide, bad parenting, and incompetence sound like a pretty plausible alternative. For the record, I've contemplated packing up a backpack and disappearing from society a number of times myself.

@thelanguageofthebirds

2 жыл бұрын

Thought stimulating comments like this are what I love to see :)

Anyone heard of the supposed staircases in the middle of the forest? I've heard a lot of conjecture from forest service workers about them , but would love to see a deep dive on it.

Research the finders. Might add a few more reasons to your list

@thelanguageofthebirds

2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

I have lived in Colorado for 30 years. I remember the Jaryd Atadero case. It was determined with a high degree of certainty that he was taken by a mountain lion

It’s really easy to get lost in the woods, sound gets muffled and distorted quickly and line of sight is broken even quicker. People don’t usually sit still thus wandering endlessly, getting aways away before doubling back. The loss of shoes could be several things like leaving a land maker or losing it after being scared and not being able to find it later. This is just my idea of how people get lost and stay lost for a couple days and why searchers check areas multiple times

Christian group in the woods and a little boy goes missing I immediately assume abduction by family friend for pedophilia

@loyalzerg

4 жыл бұрын

@Anonymous Anonymous in the middle of the day with their sister tagging along?

@bakachan3601

4 жыл бұрын

I thought pedophile on the last case too, but not because they where Christians. It was the found clothes that made me suspicious. The pants where inside out, and no socks or underwear where found.

@jordanious7711

4 жыл бұрын

@@loyalzerg Now that I think about it, the cult only invited the sister to begin with... They never wanted the brother to come........... Thats why they separated out the walking parties..... To split up the children to make it easier to kidnap one of them......

@James-mw1yf

4 жыл бұрын

@@jordanious7711 The daughter wanted to go with the group tho? Or do you think that's just the dad lying?

@oddpoppetesq.3467

4 жыл бұрын

@@James-mw1yf maybe that's what the group told the dad, that she wanted to go along.... the brother heard it and was like I wanna go too.... it was my first thought when religion was mentioned that maybe it was a nutjob (sad tbh that that is my first thought about something meant to be good)

They're Hänsel & Greteling their kids :(

@LindsayLohanHuh

4 жыл бұрын

Dumbasses aint bringing breadcrumbs

I really love this because you don’t buy into stuff immediately, you think about it your self and push your opinion Into it, you act well... like a skeptic about it. Please make more stuff like this in the future it’s very entertaining.

Some of the phenomena in the 411 theory make sense when you think about it: Near water - National parks are full of rivers and lakes. That is where a person will likely go to avoid rough terrain or to follow to an urban area. It is likely to be clearer, so they can get a better view. High up - Again, a person may climb to a higher vantage point in order to survey the land and find their way. Often at the front or back of groups - Well, that's the easiest place to detach from the group, intentionally or accidentally. The people in the middle will probably have eyes on them. People turned away for a moment - This one is probably false, and either an excuse that negligent people make, or it really just *seems* like a moment, when in actuality they have been looking away for some time. Storm - This one is strangest, but perhaps the storm makes the search more likely to be a failure, as it can call off searches due to the weather hazard, obscure vision and ground aircraft. This lost time makes the later discovery seem miraculous if they're alive, but also increases the chances that the missing person dies. Found in areas already covered by searches - Planted there after the fact, or the searches were sloppy.