My Audio Legion wire set will be here this week. I bought it on your recommendation last week as I have been researching wire kits to buy. The new amp should be quite happy.

even after 2 years you still helping people with this video thank you so much

Super information. Cheers HiFi Vega 👌 I am completely sold on Full Tilt going from this list aswell as their colour options. Just want to wait for my factory ordered car to arrive before I actually buy 🙄😂😂

Great videos sir. Love the wire guide too I use it quite often

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

I checked out audio legion after your last video and they had the 4 gauge kit for about $45 which seems like a great deal for those of us that don’t need a 1/0

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Fo sho! Keep your eyes peeled ya boy might have something for you in the near future 😉

the best series of wire comparisons ever!

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Excellent update to the almighty list bro, also Ive heard strand count makes a decent difference.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

It definitely makes a difference in flexibility

@Spacecadet3890

10 ай бұрын

I use thhn for parts its cheaper, way less flexable and needs more care at connections but it does the job for grounds and stuff,

Vega putting in the overtime as usual.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Can’t stop won’t stop!

@alphaomega8373

2 жыл бұрын

Wish I had his drive :/

Thanks for the update! You should definitely add in some 4/0 welding wire. It would definitely become the new king of high amp capable wire for the dollar. At least it would give a little better reference as it's cheaper than many on your list but has way more copper weight than all.

@ryry7886

2 жыл бұрын

Thats gotta be a big ass alternator to need that

@kriptic22

2 жыл бұрын

Biggest issue with welding wire is flexibility, can be a pita to run on certain setups.

@Widowmaker2828

2 жыл бұрын

@@kriptic22 The Excellene welding wire I use is extremely flexible. I had no issues running it at all.

@Widowmaker2828

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryry7886 Or a few alternators run to a battery delete bank of fuses like mine.

Thank you for these tests, really enjoy your content all the way from South Africa 🇿🇦. Please could you review the Deaf Bonce Machete MPC-0 GA. In SA this wire cost R250 per metre which is about $4.88 a foot

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

It’s on the list to get fo sho

What I've noticed with wire that has irregular thickness is if its a known brand I think it is their second grade that didnt quite pass inspection so they send it to ebay. I've bought both skyhigh and knuconcept from ebay that had jacket thickness issues so I just buy it direct and not ebay anymore. I still have some 8g that I couldn't use.😂

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

An astute observation!

@edud8452

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega We use the Royal Excellence wire at work rewinding large elec mtrs for lead wire I just couldnt carry that much out in my lunch box😂😂

@kriptic22

2 жыл бұрын

I been using sky high for a very long time with no issues. I've bought knu before and actual returned it to them after arguing with them about your exact comment. Was pissed because it was not to spec.

Nice vid! Great info

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Db link soft touch 0gauge seems very thin could get 4 gauge terminals on it lot of jacket .

Wow, this is great information! :)

Have you ever looked at using jumper cables for a source of wire? I have a set of old Craftsman 50' long cables that's zero or 1 gauge; that's two runs of cable together.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

If it’s true to spec and actual copper it will be alright, but a lot of jumper cables today are CCA unfortunately.

@phrogman4654

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega Another place would be the wrecking yard, vehicles with the battery in the trunk has a 1 or 0 gauge wire running front to back. My Dodge Charger has one 0 gauge run from the alternator to the battery.

Excellent video thanks

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Great video man

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks homie!

Nice work. What about windy nation 2/0 welding/battery cable?

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

It should be true to spec being welding cable

Great video..I need to up my wire game.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jrock5995

Жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega I use lamp wire with the on & off wheel. So I can shut down the amps quick. In case the pigs hate.

Flexaprene welding wire is what is available readily in my area, have you tried that.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Yep it’s true to awg

As long as you have multiple runs of wire that can handle your fused power input than no issues if trying to run single wire this becomes a factor

@kriptic22

2 жыл бұрын

First, why would you run multiple sets to equal 1 quality run? 2nd- if your running multiple sets, your obviously running some serious shit and need that quality. Never skimp on wire, especially people buying cca. That type of wire is a joke. Spend the money, get quality ofc and be done.

@yourmom-ii8ep

2 жыл бұрын

@@kriptic22 it's cheaper to run multiple runs of cheaper grade 0g than 1expensive high-end 0g it accomplishes the same an maybe better

@yourmom-ii8ep

2 жыл бұрын

@@kriptic22 as long as you don't exceed the power rating on the wire multiple runs are always better

@yourmom-ii8ep

2 жыл бұрын

@@kriptic22 I'm also running dual alternators so like I said in my case just fine

Small suggestion if you're going to round one up round the other one up as well

When buying welding cable, do I have to go up a size from the AWG gauge I'm looking for? For instance, if I'm looking for 4 gauge wire, what size welding wire would that be?

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Welding cable is always true to spec. If you’re looking at it vs car audio wire it’s hit and miss because car audio wire has no standard. Some of them are larger than others.

Using is a part of testing so your good.

What cable is the most flexible Out of the bunch nvx?

U makin a “how to install a Hifi Vega Big 3 Kit” video anytime soon? Streetz is waitin! 14.4V TALK HAS SPOKEN

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Just did one foo!

@deviant4life25

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega that’s the vid I started but Beardie started attacking the screen… Thought it was meal worms

Kinda wish you'd have done an actual current flow rating as well because some wire being tinned could be capable of flowing higher current or the purity of the copper used makes a big difference as well some wire may have lead or other metals mixed in simply to make it seem heavier but this does not mean that it will flow more current than pure copper will.... I still believe that Stinger HPM series is the best flowing 1/0 ofc wire based on my own use and testing....

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

I’d love too but it’s just too expensive to test every brand that way. I might do a few select runs of 1/0 like that in the future

For GP audio wire u should test there 2/0 wire to equal car audio 1/0. GP wire is based of welding cable. AWG

@johnnypiper1717

Жыл бұрын

Is the gp 1/0 wire good wire, is it really stiff or flexible

@peteyparado

Жыл бұрын

It great wire. lil stiffer than most tho

@johnnypiper1717

Жыл бұрын

@peteyparado cool I been debating on which 1/0 ofc amp kit to get. I'm jus running basic set up from my front battery through firewall to under my back seat of my 20 ram 1500. You know why you would need wire to be really flexible?

@peteyparado

Жыл бұрын

Just easier to bend when there’s things in the way or tight corners.

@johnnypiper1717

Жыл бұрын

@peteyparado oh ok, is there any other wire you have used before that's more flexible or you think I should be good with the gp wire?

ill tell you one thing. my GP audio wired system kicks ass

Ordered TempCo couple days ago. Still waiting for shipping info. Are they usually quick on shipping? Thanks for the info and looking forward to 2/0 welding wire

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

They’re fairly quick and usually get it out the same week

@UrAvgBasshead

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega definitely surprised to see it that cheap. My local welding shop is $5 a ft

@UrAvgBasshead

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega you were definitely right. It’s super flexible too. Very surprised by it. I’ll be recommending it to everyone I know.

I use temco on all my rides

Wouldn't the tinned wire actually be slightly less in copper weight being that its tinned?

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

It’s negligible

30 feet of temco 2/0 is $125 and 30 feet of sky high is $115 witch one should I go with can’t make my mind up! If it makes a difference my longest run is coming thru my firewall not under the car

@HifiVega

8 ай бұрын

If you have tight bends you need to make go Skyhigh. If it’s gonna be a straight run to a distro then go with the 2/0

You don't have DC Audio's wire on here? I've been buying that stuff and its my favorite wire this far. And its tinned and says get on our level all down the wire. Its $4 a foot. All I have is 4 and 8 gauge tho. If I buy some 1/0, ill send ya a foot of it.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Yo I didn’t even know they had wire! Good looking out ima hafta peep

@1ohmwrecker

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega i got a short video on my channel of it.

@thatdudesme2

2 жыл бұрын

SkyHigh

You should start verifying the strand counts /s

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

I thought about that, but ima pass for now lol. Maybe I’ll do it in the future because that would definitely be cool, but a lot of work.

So what is the brand of the #1 spot "welding cable" was it actually Tempco or was it Royal Excellene?

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

I actually tested both and they were the same so you can grab either with confidence

@troydefond2307

2 жыл бұрын

sweet I use 3/0 royal excelene welding cable.

@cuh_2023

2 жыл бұрын

Try windy nation

@mafosa8519

2 жыл бұрын

@@cuh_2023 ive used both. temcos just has a better feel to it. WN i wouldnt think twice on using. welding cable is just better all around winner! larry

@alphaomega8373

2 жыл бұрын

Royal had it under my car for over five years. Was surprised at how well it held up. I kept it even though I dont need it right now.

I’ve used soundqubed 1/0 and seems pretty decent. Can maybe send ya a sample or 2

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

I think all they sell is cca

What about ELITE AUDIO? I would love to know where they stand!

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man I haven’t heard of that brand yet so you have a link so I could check em out?

What is in 1 place 2 place 3 place...????? Thank you 👍👍👍

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zJyEtBGppmM8aWOZIJ6PxwfcHQG4HWhnU451OUvl-hU/edit

Yeah buddy!!

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Yessir

STINGER HPM TINNED OFC 1/0 FOR THE WIN!!! Otherwise ill stick with my Sky high oversized 2/0 ofc which is actually 4/0 wire!

@user-jm2kr4mu1v

4 ай бұрын

I have shy high 1/0 over sized ofc in my ride and it's huge idk but I been thinking of upgrading to 2/0 for grounds power under the hood and to the batteries then the 1/0 for all the step downs to amps etc .then 4 gauge on subs and from subs to amps 8 gauge or would I be over thinking and killing

Affiliate links to my current favorite wire bargains Certified Basshead 1/0 OFC $4ft free shipping over $100 lddy.no/11965 Skyhigh 1/0 OFC $4ft free shipping over $100 lddy.no/11978 InstallGear 1/0 OFC $3ft free shipping w/prime amzn.to/3C772JE

1/0 OFC Cheat Sheet (updated 9/12/21) rb.gy/oe93pb

I like this sheet. Didn't see Limitless on here. I just got some tinned from them.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t gotten to them yet, but I added them to my list of what I still need to get.

Question: How do u know if you need to run 2+ wires?

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

You need to know what the max amperage draw of your entire system then you can match that up with the max amperage capability of the wire (at whatever length you’re using)

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

If the single run isn’t enough then add a second run or go with a bigger awg

Doesn’t tinning affect weight and volume?

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Tin weighs a bit less than copper so if it did it would mean less weight not more, but I don’t think there is that much tin on the wire to make a noticeable difference

I almost thought the first wire was a large twizzler. Well... I was hoping.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

😂

I use skyhigh audio

Need try the Deaf Bonce wire….

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll add it to the list. I did not know they sold wire, good lookin out.

What about dc audio 1/0 wire

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Haven’t checked it out yet, but added it to the list!

Windy Nation please

Welding cable is still the best...everythin with the "audio ofc label" on it is way too expensive..

@beerman9807

2 жыл бұрын

Tell that to Steve Meade and see what he says

@justkiddin1980

2 жыл бұрын

@@beerman9807 Yeah?? I don't understand your point? Welding cable 0 gauge ofc is exactly the same quality as so called "audio cable" doesn't have the shiney plastic but that is what cable sleeves are for..

@INFRNL1

2 жыл бұрын

theres a reason why its more expensive, 5 times the strand count making it much easier to work with among other things. typically the higher the strand count, the better.. Especially with speaker wire. that's why we don't use lamp cord...hahaha Welding cable definitely has it's place and is great for battery cables and jumper wires, etc. I'd be interested in seeing tests on how ea handle power in comparison though.

@INFRNL1

Жыл бұрын

@Travis Hamler Congrats, sounds like you have all the answers.... And you obviously didn't read what I posted.

@INFRNL1

Жыл бұрын

@Travis Hamler I can't remember exactly where my mind was 6 months ago. I'm pretty sure the welding cable in question was around 1000 strands and skyhigh is 5400 strands...so yes, 5 times the strand count. Higher strand count definitely aides in flexibility, correct. This is also critical in some installs. Strand count can also be better for signal transfer and bandwidth as well as the ability to flow more current.... depending. I bought both skyhigh and knukoneptz 1/0. Skyhigh has a higher strand count and larger actual diameter of copper overall. So in certain circumstances, it will do better being a larger cable even though they are rated as 1/0. Hope that part makes sense. I'm not saying strands count is the absolute answer, but it can play a fairly significant role depending on needs. I also stated that welding cable is one of the best options for battery cables. There are different variables at play and i understand your side. We have different successful options

I think that copper weight to price ratio is a negligent comparison, audiophiles and bass heads don't often buy 1/0 OFC based purely off of price. I would like to see more useful comparisons like: •Conductivity •Amp rating at a 25ft length •purity of the copper •corrosion resistance •jacket durability •etc.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve done the bottom 2 in earlier videos in the 1/0 shootout playlist and I covered why I’m not testing longer lengths of wire in the video

@mr_killjoy4205

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega I still think the purity of the copper used in the wire should be the main defining factor when it comes to choosing the best 1/0 AWG cable.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr_killjoy4205 how do you determine that for yourself now? Without melting the copper down and having it tested I dunno how I’d do that

@mr_killjoy4205

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega currently I don't, I have to take what I've been told and run with that BUT I'm also not trying to do tests on copper wiring (just saying). but yeah as involved as it maybe, you'd probably have to send samples off to a lab and get it tested and it would be this big ol thing, so it's understandable as to why you haven't done it. in conclusion, all I was saying is the price to weaght ratio of 1/0 AWG cable is a negligent comparison and a true comparison of quality would be purity and overall conductivity (with all due respect, cause I know how people can be on the internet), as we've concluded that isn't easily doable, I'll agree to disagree. maybe in the future, maybe it can be crowdfunded or something.

@mr_killjoy4205

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega regardless, thanks for the testing that you have done and also thanks for the time you take out of your day to better educate people about car audio.

Test prv seams legit

Yea boi

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Yessir

MESA price per ft is $7.99

Hey wifi can u test ds18, limitless lithium and down 4 sound Ofc wire....didn't see it on the cheat sheet?

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

The others are on the list, but I didn’t even know ds18 made 1/0 ofc I’ll hafta peep

@shawnw4802

2 жыл бұрын

I checked your chest sheet and I dont see Limitless lithium on it, I bought a 50ft roll from them

@shawnw4802

2 жыл бұрын

Not Sky high but there own brand

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

@@shawnw4802 yep haven’t got any limitless in yet

How can i send you 2 samples of the wire im using ?

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Every wire video test is in the playlist. kzread.info/head/PL4A7BkPvLrL_t8DImZpMz6LtTmb0JGWUA

@turntup3250

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega yessir i want to send you some to test it

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

@@turntup3250 send me an email to hifivega@gmail.com and I’ll reply back with the shipping address. What wire did ya have?

🔥🔥🔥🔥

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

How’s the back buddy?

@DIYAudioGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega slowly getting better

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIYAudioGuy I’m glad man we need to see more enclosures built 😉

Mesa wire

When dean bought that up I thought knukonceptz would be uneven around the jacket

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t checked all the wire for that yet, but it’s on the docket.

@frankoquade7gmail

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like coppers going down a little bit what do you think

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankoquade7gmail still kinda high, but lord I hope it goes down.

@frankoquade7gmail

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I know I went with sky high 1/0 50ft for $180 on sale

@balisongsnbeats.9219

2 жыл бұрын

SHCA is the one with jacket inconsistencies

the one that pays you the most to say it at a guess

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

2/0 welding cable pays me?

Tinned wire your paying for that weight making the actual copper weight lower.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think there is enough tinning on there to make more than a negligible difference.

Audio Legion gone out of business about 2 months ago

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

😰

I feel bummed cause I have down 4 sound 1/0

@HifiVega

Жыл бұрын

The D4S wire is solid. Very flexible and tinned ofc. The sizing of the wire is true to awg standard it’s just not oversized

@ElevatedVehicles

Жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega ah fair fair

BROTHER

is d4s sundown?

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

It should be the same as certified basshead

@moasto02

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega cool thanks man

Welding companies. Cheaper, better, and never let me down since the 90s. To all my budget bass heads please don’t get caught up in the hype an waist your hard earned pay check on over rated audio like sundown audio. I’m not saying it’s not quality audio, I’m saying it’s overpriced and you can definitely shop around an literally get more bang for your buck elsewhere. If you don’t believe me then go pay $1,000 bucks for 1 sub an when you blow it tell me how you feel when you call them and they don’t send you a new sub bc they tell you it was human error. #IT SUCKS trust me!

No spread sheet this time

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Crap I forgot to put the link in the description! I’ll fix that thanks for the heads up

@harveyr2546

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega Yea shame on you. Lol

@harveyr2546

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega I will be buying sky-high wire here soon

So the skar 0 gauge no good

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t recommend it because it’s actually closer to 2awg

Annnnnd absolutely nothin for the real OGz at the end? You slippin?

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

Listen… I enlarged my logo for you! What else do you want from me? 😉

@deviant4life25

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega ohhh shizzzzz I didn’t even notice!!!! Let’s gooooo

👍👍👍👍👍😎

Great video no spreadsheet.

Damn 5th

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

That’s Patreon early access got eem!

Sky high oversized the best and that price on the chest sheet are for cca because of is like around 9 dollars a ft on sky high that is I think

The uniformity if any ,is most likely from how the wire was cut. And also if the wire is tinned it should obviously weigh more.

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

I cut all the wire with Klein high leverage cutters, so if there is a difference from one to the other it should be because of the wire

@bobbyackerson4125

2 жыл бұрын

@@HifiVega you said Dean told you there was some uniformity in some wire so that doesn't make any sense at all

@HifiVega

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobbyackerson4125 he said some wire had a thin side not enough material