I know it’s a Westwood video but McLaren plays a huge role in her rise to fame. He basically created the Sex Pistols, and was responsible for letting Westwood make them their clothes. He needed the clothes to match their wild personality. However, McLaren also studied fashion like crazy, and had the store before Westwood. He was also responsible for some of the crazy graphics put out, like the rapist on a tee and the swastikas on sweatshirts. Listening to either of them talk during the time and it’s clear it’s Malcolm who has the ideas and Westwood who brings them to life. Westwood, when asked about using a swastika, gives no reason other than it looks cool. She didn’t even seem to understand the significance of the work she was creating. Even recently, she’s gone on record saying punk was an excuse to dress up. Whereas Westwood is all about projecting the idea about punk and anarchy, McLaren himself was considered to be anarchy incarnate at the time.

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah you’re completely right, I just didn’t want to go on a tangent and talk too much about Malcolm McLaren when the video is about Vivienne Westwood. It can be really tough structuring these videos. I’ll give you a good example: I’m working on a video about Rei Kawakubo, if I go on a tangent and talk about the whole Comme Des Garçons empire and all the huge players in it like Tao Kurihara, Junya Watanabe, Adrian Joffe etc, the video will end up being hours long and the whole point of trying to get people to learn about fashion will be missed as people won’t watch a video so long. I think the solution is I may have to make separate videos as follow up videos on individuals who play big parts in certain stories.

@irvingcruz9766

5 жыл бұрын

The Fashion Archive I see what the going off on a tangent problem can be. I feel like you should break them up into parts, however you want to break them up into would be fine. It could be a chronological analysis, or breaking up the videos into recaps into a certain time period. For example, the shop and the punk rock 73-79 ish era could be a video. The 80-84 ish era where their(MM &VW) is still together and hip hop influenced could also be a separate video. Then breaking up the rest of her periods would be individual videos. Since each one is separate each one would likely get the same amount of views with different viewers, and with auto play, they would likely roll over into each other. Liked the video though, crazy how a influencer focused video got more views than this gem. Been watching you for a long time since I don’t know when. I think you used to comment saying you were a new channel who was going to talk about fashion on a video and checked your channel out.

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think now when I cover huge designers I will have to make the videos in parts and put them in a playlist. As for the influencer video it’s sad really because that was just a random rant and it got more views than a detailed video I made about an iconic designer. Just goes to show youtube is really for the more popular stuff but I still don’t care, I’ll continue making videos about fashion designers and hopefully people will catch on. Thanks so much for supporting all this time btw ❤️

@mvxxderxnxx3078

4 жыл бұрын

Wow thank for the knowledge

@7somekindofsomething

3 жыл бұрын

This comment right here. He did play a significant part in the style too. Would style proto punk bands such as The New York Dolls and plaid a pretty big part in the foundation of the style. Great video though.

being an ex punk circa 1976 and having shopped at sex and seditionary I think this is a very well put together video

@yourfashionarchive427

4 жыл бұрын

billymink do you still have any of your clothing from back then ?

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for watching I really appreciate it

You could argue Westwood's influence is evident in some trends we have today. The bondage in stuff like Alyx, the plaid and skinny in Fear of God.

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

I totally agree, she’s influenced so many current designers collections.

@mvxxderxnxx3078

4 жыл бұрын

Also the 85 destroyed denim from undercover

Malcom Mclaren looked like he was falling asleep in the beginning of that interview

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Loool 😂

I’ve long been a huge fan of her. I love how she’s consistently been true to herself all these years. Thanks for this video ♥️

One of my feminist icon

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

That’s amazing 🔥

@dantelane2020

3 жыл бұрын

Men created her brand....

@dorotaisqueen3650

2 жыл бұрын

@@dantelane2020 There's nothing wrong with working with men to promote her brand, nor does it make her any less of an absolutely fabulous designer.

@FunkyNotFrumpy

Жыл бұрын

Huge fan!

i love her. in my town there are protests about anti-fracking and one day guess who appears out of nowhere to protest in our little town... vivienne westwood!

i'm doing an essay about vivienne westwood for my class and this video was really helpful!!!

Great video right here. Was looking for a documentary about Vivienne’s legacy and this is even better! Came into this only knowing about the famous orb necklaces, having one of my own that I love.

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help

Learned so much! Thank you for posting this awesome video 😆

Another great video, I was highly familiar with her name and the punk rock fashion but always needed more information. Thanks man

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

No problem I appreciate you watching 🙏🏿

I know we can argue about viv and mclaren but thank you for this video it’s very well spoken and thought out!! Subscribed

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏿

Thank you for making this video. I thought all those straps and studs were too extra and couldn't understand why punks thought they looked good, but now I know punks back then liked wearing edgy stuff just to piss people off.

I 🖤punk ! not just the fashion but the music as well

just subscribed! you explain things very well and i love this series :) looking out for more new videos !

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much I really appreciate it

Hey, thank for the video! I was just watching her documentary and i think your video is much better! hahahahha

Thank you! I enjoyed this video a lot

I love ViviWest,, it’s the right kinda flashy and original. Can you talk about Rei? Ionno much about her,, also I love the Anglomania collection

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah Vivienne Westwood is amazing. Don’t worry there’s actually a Rei video in the works as we speak

I loooove Vivian but let's not forget that Betsy Johnson and Anya Phillips were doing their thing too.

i love vivienne westwood, great video :)

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

I love her too haha

This is an amazing video, thank you!

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Enjoyed that :) Thanks mate,& greetings from Australia.

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for watching

Great vid bro!

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro, just seen your vid. It was dope

Great video!

great video, thank you!

I actually found out about Vivienne through the Julian Assange case . Then after watching her interviews and documentaries and found her very interesting, my favorite is cafe society . Her red label collection is very popular here in Japan . I love her designs and jewelry. Thanks for the nice video and very unique coming from a fashion journalist! 😊😊

I Love your vídeos. So refreshing to find intelligent people in fashion

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

❤️

great vid!

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏿

I saw a video recently with Stella McCartney on sustainability. VW was in the audience saying she was struggling to find sustainable materials etc. Stella McCartney offered to hook her up with info. She then offered VW a job which was extremely cringey so I hope it didn't put VW off getting the info she needed.

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Stella McCartney is extremely innovative and she has teams that work on this stuff all the time so I hope VW drops her ego and gets the information she needs.

awsome video

thank u for this

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

Always willing to help

Great video

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🌟

great video

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

🙏🏿

I appreciate and respect what she has done for fashion but she is an absolute hypocrite with her activism rubbish. How can the creator of such a huge global brand protest so much about climate change when her company contributes so much to it with production, transport, and sourcing? She claims the phrase "buy less" but releases an 80-look collection for Fall 2019, with a lot of it being uninteresting and wasteful "crap." She preaches against the negative effects of clothing production but ranks very low in sustainability. She speaks against the "filthy rich" but is worth $50 million and has in the past been charged for tax avoidance. She is a clear greenwasher, using her outrageous protests and "activism" as well as this green image to cause a stir, draw attention to her name, and therefore her company to promote sales. She did the same with the punk movement, simply using the outrageousness of it and the shock factor for attention until it gained too negative a reputation so she moved on to climate change as her new form of marketing. I personally cannot see past her hypocrisy and I think what she does is immoral and I don't why people don't see through this facade she puts on. In my opinion, if any brand or designer needs to be "cancelled" (other than D&G) it is her and her brand.

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Haha I totally agree politically she’s a walking contradiction. The history of her brand doesn’t add up, it would’ve made a lot more sense if she continued with her “I don’t care” persona. What she’s doing now is like being someone who murdered 100s of people and then being an advocate of preventing murder. Doesn’t make sense. I still think she’s a legend for what she’s done but the protesting stuff needs to take a backseat.

@vidjoe8320

4 жыл бұрын

@@FashionRoadman if you look into the history of her logos you would know exactly what the brand is all about... but the clothing is great and not at all expensive.... so forget the hypocrisy and just enjoy the clothing... cos at the end of the day ...as Method Man said 'Behind every fortune is a Crime' ... Blessed Love Brother

Super interested in her idea of creating clothes based off where in the timeline your born

Interesting video even if her design language is so different to mine

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

We can still appreciate it

do a video on helmut lang!

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

One is definitely in the works. All in due time 🙏🏿

What about the Orb pendants and the logo??!

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

The orb pendants and the logo don’t have any historical backing. They were introduced at the brand as a way to make money and for people to identify the brand easier (most high end brands make majority of their money from accessories and footwear). The logo is inspired by “World’s End” hence the logo having a globe.

Sid Vicious`s red swastika shirt sold at auction in 2019 for $45,000

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Oh, so that's why you were asking who we think is bigger... 🤔 Sneaky and smart

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

There’s a method to everything

she was different forreal

'There're still like this now, but I imagine back then it was worse'. lmao.

RIP VW

Rei wins still lmao

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

LOOOL

@XrSD3lta

5 жыл бұрын

No-one can defeat her 😤👌

@aculturacionsin9852

4 жыл бұрын

They are not in comp

why is it insane that she sold clothing to sex workers? The tone of that sentence was off-putting. It's literally a store called SEX, of course sex workers would want to shop there.

@SpikyCat

3 жыл бұрын

shutup

Iconic Westwood Bum Bag......

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Fully forgot about that when I made this vid but will probably mention it in a later video

I love this woman so much her clothes she made for Malcom Mclaren’s boutique is fire even the homosexual cowboy ones Sid wore I’d wear without any fucks and I’m heterosexual but to me clothes are clothes and a good design is a good design and just that and shouldn’t determine ones sexuality. She still looks damn good 77 years old shots crazy cause she’s Caucasian lol.

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

She’s a true icon. White don’t crack if your name is Vivienne Westwood

@legarconquiment1069

5 жыл бұрын

The Fashion Archive really if you ever get bored I have a really lowkey fashion spam I made public like a month or two ago I think after a friend told me to lol but anyways if you get past the bob Marley stuff and the dancehall fashion I posted a load of punk and vivienne x Malcom x Sex Pistols stuff. The spam is @wutangiz4thachildren hope you fw it!! Loved the vid btw

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a lucrative offer for when I finish exams

@legarconquiment1069

5 жыл бұрын

The Fashion Archive Enjoy and Good luck on your studies bro

@FashionRoadman

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏿

i think you can understand why she distances herself from punk when you realise that it was just a catalyst for what came after it musically politically and in terms of fashion.

😍😍😃👍

What does "too fast to live too young to die" really mean ??

@mjh5437

Жыл бұрын

It`s about young people who die because they lived fast and recklessly and carefree.

mclaren was mad on H

16:13, she still went before the queen even thought she was antiestablsihment?

Mini 'Quinny' uh ?

Thought clothes had progressed

@FashionRoadman

4 жыл бұрын

Had progressed ?

Unapologetic