If you want to hear an interesting contrast to Viego's theme, I would recommend checking out the theme of Gwen, the Hallowed Seamstress. Fun fact, there's a portion of her theme that comes from Viego's theme, but the notes are reversed.

@Dizzifying1

Жыл бұрын

This would be because Gwen is his and Isolde's unborn child. Terribly sad story to be honest.

@Oscar97o

Жыл бұрын

@@Dizzifying1 Is that confirmed? I thought she was simply Isolde's soul.

@Dizzifying1

Жыл бұрын

@@Oscar97o She speaks of Isolde as her own mother. Her scissors are a part of Viego's blade. Who do you think Isolde was making the doll for? She was pregnant. Edit: on top of that Isolde's soul was completed and she was fully revived (as a ghost) at the same time Gwen was also alive. They aren't the same soul.

@thexlonewolf671

Жыл бұрын

@@Dizzifying1 Wait, what? Does this come from the Ruination novel, because I thought Gwen was a doll Isolde made when she was a girl.

@Dizzifying1

Жыл бұрын

@@thexlonewolf671 She was making the doll at the time. The piece of his blade was being used as scissors. She was actively working on it still. Look at the "Made with Love" Gwen champion teaser and you'll see she was in the process of making the doll.

The absolute tragedy of Viego is that he gave everything to try and hold on to Isolde. His wealth, his prestige, his sanity, his people. And after finally finding a way to 'save' her from death he finds that she doesn't want to hold on with him any longer. Isolde's line during the cinematic is the most poignant to their story. After nearly destroying the entire world to regain her soul and revive her as a ghost (again), she responds in somber agony: "I loved you until my final breath... Why wasn't that enough?" Truly heartbreaking.

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it is abundantly operatic in its tragedy!

@warmmilk9480

Жыл бұрын

Technically false! But only because Viego, upon returning, has no memory of Isolde killing him. He's just desperately trying to get her back. Well... was. We're kinda past that in the lore.

@Dizzifying1

Жыл бұрын

@@warmmilk9480 Not technically false. In that moment he found she didn't want to live and love him anymore. After his death is a separate issue and is the reason he makes the same mistake again.

@manolgeorgiev9664

Жыл бұрын

He loved her, but she didn't really love him. But he's the king and he gets what he wants.

@warmmilk9480

Жыл бұрын

​@@Dizzifying1 Yeah but he was never really sure of what was going on. I thought The Ruined King covered that he wasn't sure why it happened. I don't think he would've concluded that she didn't love him. I don't know, it's definitely a bit semantical, but I was mostly just pointing out that he's essentially gone through trying to bring her back twice. And I personally believe he was as aware as the viewer is that she wasn't acting like herself when she killed him. Otherwise she would've acted the same when he came back. It was being ripped from death unnaturally that brought her back in such a violent form that she killed him.

You got him perfectly, dude. I recommend Kindred's or Sylas' next if you make this into a full series.

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

it is a series :D

@Soliye.

Жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to see his guess on Kindred

@UndeadLromor

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcoMeatball Please do Gwen next she and Viego have a deep connection and part of her theme comes from Viego as well.

@ionaskualexander1255

Жыл бұрын

Isn't it obvious that one should react to Gwen after Viego?

@kiniro8553

Жыл бұрын

definetely kindred

The Lore on this guy gets pretty immense, there’s a full-blown novel coming out about his whole background

@AndreyShu

Жыл бұрын

yeah, and show the story of Kalista who is the most tragic character in this story, imho. more tragic maybe just a man who was in love with her, forgot his name....

@tartarustrommler5454

Жыл бұрын

@@AndreyShu I think that was ledros

@AdvayBasavaraju

Жыл бұрын

@@tartarustrommler5454 I am ledros! the king's shield!

@carcionpetto

Жыл бұрын

oh man I really hope they manage to rectify once and for all the biggest (and dumbest) even that happened in lore till now

@ghostshrimp5006

Жыл бұрын

@@carcionpetto I’m holding out too

The music box has some lore implications too, because viego's wedding gift to isolde was the same music box he found as a isolde's soul fragment in the ruination event also used in his theme Sorry if i missexplain i'm not english speaker

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

you explained perfectly :)

@hypotenusachikita4654

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcoMeatball this was told in a story called "She" BY JARED ROSEN

It's probably already been mentioned, but something interesting about Viego is how the Black Mist works. When it consumes someone, infects someone, it brings out their darkest aspects within them. Their hatred, their self doubt, their disdain, self loathing, etc etc. It feeds into their hidden agonies and amplifies them to an obsessive level (At least that is my understanding of it from the Sentinels event and other bits of lore. -- In the case of Viego, despite having control of the Mist, it ultimately controls him, he is a slave to his own power in the sense that he is lost, there is only one thing he can focus on, one aspect of him amplified to a destructive point, his love for Isolde. His grief is all he is and ever will be.

Honestly, Viego's theme and story just make me really want an actual opera of his life story, from his youth to his time as king and culminating in the tragedy that is the ruination. I think it could be very moving.

@Paulog2003

Жыл бұрын

Watch Star Wars! Especially Revenge of the Sith hahaha

Less than two minutes in and your understanding of the character is already incredibly accurate. I don't know what's more impressive, the fact that you can gleam any of this from a few seconds of music or the composer facilitating it in the first place. Amazing stuff

@milagrosborges4913

Жыл бұрын

I felt the same!!!

@gigachad9826

Жыл бұрын

Maybe cause he reads the lore before? And he just cuts that out, it's not hard.

@lothara.schmal5092

Жыл бұрын

@@gigachad9826 Reaching, he was entirely wrong a bunch of times

@Ulvorskets

Жыл бұрын

@@gigachad9826 nahh, league's music is just that good, you can extract a lot of information based on the music. I mean wouldn't expect less from a former music company

I love that the piano sounds like a character on its own that's trying to force the rest of the orchestra to follow its will idk maybe I'm reaching but it would seem to fit his character

@igorporfiirio4915

Жыл бұрын

I think that's why he said there was a lot of selfshness in the music, it's mainly in the piano

@leila13dnd

Жыл бұрын

No that is definitely a really good description.

Dude this series is awesome. Please make more.

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

It wont stop until it's done.

@GreenColossus

Жыл бұрын

​@@MarcoMeatball Made me remember viego's voiceline "I will take, and take until there is nothing left but her."

Viego is in my opinion one of the most interesting villains in League of Legends Lore. He single-handedly started a Massive War against a really big part of Runeterra just to revive her dead Wife. I Hope they will bring him back again . Also his theme is a masterpiece...

My favorite part of this piece is the uncanny contrast between the motif of the rising augmented chords clashing with the dramatic romantic concerto, perhaps to evoke a ghostly presence, or perhaps to evoke that something about the emotion conveyed by the piano is eerily off, not quite there, non-desacriptly skewed. Hey, or perhaps both, which we know makes perfect sense here in this case. Absolutely fantastic piece!

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

absolutely!

Viego's story is a such a complex and tragic one! it's really heart breaking and is ultimately a darker twist on the typical fantasy prince fairy tale. He became evil because the world denied him his love, and until he gets her back- all will fall to ruin.

This video not only exemplifies how good you are at brilliantly deducing facts about a character's lore based solely on the music used to represent them, but also conversely how good Riot's music is at conveying those things.

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

🙏 it’s so much fun!

Riot also made another song for Viego called "I'll find a way (ft. TELLE)". Its a great listen and paints a good picture of Viego and his ambitions.

Gwen's is a good one to follow Viego's theme. You hear more of that woman's voice (Isolde) in her theme "The Hallowed Seamstress"

My favorite part of his theme is the musicbox becuase of how it symbolises everything he is figthing for, visions of a future with his wife that will never fully come true. It has a dream like quality to it and with his background orgin story Viego is indeed child like as well. It fits so well and that tiny part makes the rest of the theme come together to represent Viego as a character perfectly. The dream like sound of the musicbox ads a kind of purety which brings out the saddnes of loss in this theme. The rest of it discribes his grandiosness of royalty, the confusion and delusion which in turn incobination with the main melody from the musicbox through the hole piece shows that it is the only thing that some what keeps Viego intact. He will stop at nothing to get what he has lost back and chaos erupts. Such a good champion theme!

aphelios theme is my favorite to listen to, but I think you might be a fan of Kindred's theme as the whole idea of the character is cool.

Holy, you could not have described him any better man. " Old, damaged, a person who have suffered and has brought suffering". People who know him would have not described him that well. You got my Utmost respect

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

thank you!!!! The Music speaks for itself!

It was nice seeing you have fun with this. it was also interesting that you basically guessed him from the first 30 seconds.

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

:)

I can't get enough of these, I would'nt mind if you did dozens of these vids, they're so enjoyable to watch and I'd think they're pretty easy and enjoyable for you to do so it's a win/win

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

They’re very easy. And I’m going through them all :)

Ah I love Viego's theme! It gives me chills everytime, I love it when the RiotMusic team release piano-focused music like this.

I love how engaged you get with these musical pieces. Both amazing to listen to and watch :)

That was freaking cool, you really could get his essence. Waiting anxiously for the Kindreds

I recently found your channel like yesterday, and have gone through a lot of your stuff to see more of your takes on this. I'm absolutely gobsmacked you're able to pull such accurate takes on Viego from the music itself. Also, the expressions on your face as you pantomime out the music? Cracked me up and made me fall in love with your content. In fact, your content is making me want to take more of a look at the League music for champion themes. Not just their music videos.

I haven't finished the video yet, but I love seeing your passion for music show as the theme escalates. So far, you're on point for characterization!

Wow... you impressed so much. You just completely encapsulated his character with listening alone. Truly amazing.

It blows my mind every time you do one of these, absolutely incredible! :D Also if possible please do Aurelion Sol’s theme, it’s absolutely fantastic! ^^

Can’t wait for the time when your eventually cover Mordekaiser’s theme, again I highly recommend. I cannot wait, but in the mean keep up the hard work on the review!❤

It was awesome to see how you enjoyed and analysed the theme. Love the newly added lore reading and reflection part. Please do Aphelios's theme one day if you haven't yet! His theme is probably one of the best in term of having the vocals and the music intertwine to tell the story together, my personal favorite.

I GET SOOOOO HAPPY WHEN YOU LOVE THE MUSIC LIKE WHEN you are really into it and you mouth words you would say at that point and time its soo lovely!

I believe he should take a look at Kindreds theme, bio and maybe their quotes

You continue to blow me away with how well you can identity character traits based on the music. Props to you and props to the Riot Music team for making such amazing music. Keep these coming, I can only hope the League community keeps showing up to enjoy your skill. :) May I suggest the theme for Aphelios next?

Damn, that was an almost perfect guess. Would love to see you trying to guess Mordekaiser next (simply because he's a great character and his music is fcking fantastic)

Love your content! Is amazing how you can break down all these themes so well. Keep it going! I personally recommend the music from: Aphelios, Senna and Sylas

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

I really love this content, keeps it up brother!

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

Your reactions and gestures are just the best 😁

From what I've seen, you've done a lot of the "darker" vibe champions, I'd love to see you do a more lighthearted theme, like Neeko!

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

Not on purpose 😂😂😂

Something intresting about this theme: part of the theme was sampled from another music from riot, but it's the "same song". Pentakill - Blade of Ruined King. Riot make a Heavy Metal band, with the tracks sing ou play about some itens or characters of Lore. And the Blade of the Ruined King always was a item, from dps-on-hit champions, and them make the song first in Heavy Metal, but when they make Viego a playable champion Riot make a full theme for him... and now he've a skin Dissonance of Pentakill. (Sorry if some words doesn't make sense, i'm a portuguese speaker)

its such a joy to see your childlike joy and reaction to the amazing ost of the league of legend team

it's so interesting hearing you break down the music like this

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad!

Man you got it it right, honestly viegos theme has a lot of lot of ways it ties with its character, you should check out the music around Warwick (his blood hunt music is pretty good)

Been interesting catching up on these, and seeing your approach to the whole process get refined as you go, on top of the quality of your guesses! It'll be fun if you get around to Kled some day, though I highly recommend not even seeing what the character looks like ahead of time, if you can help it. I suspect it would make for a fun surprise at the end :P

Pinpoint reaction, really impressed on this one. Even more since its one of my favorite theme, great job

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. The music is astounding

@Kague1

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcoMeatball Yes, there's so many bangers made by riot. Excited for the rest

Can you make these more often? btw you are so good at this

great video, as always. Love Viego, his story really show original thinking of Riot writers. You need to be really good to make the big evil undead king an emoboy and make everyone happy with that =)

Here a list of some I think are incredible you might listen to if you want 🌝 : Kayle and Morgana, Gwen, Kindred, Camille, Taliyah, Qiyana. And Demacia rising (it's not a champ but it's cool too)

Watching you figure it out PERFECTLY within the first 2 minutes of the video is insane.

The music box is a wedding gift for him and his queen.

As an (uneducated) fan of complex music and video games... its so interesting watching actual musicians reactions to themes and soundtracks I enjoy on a raw emotional level, and the level of detail and lore embedded there that I miss.

I would really love to see you try to figure out Zoe! She's a significant switch-up from what you've encountered so far, but also an interesting one!

Another fantastic video! Might I recommend some other fantastic themes, Tahm Kench, the River King is one good one, as is Taliyah the stone-weaver, and Braum, the heart of the Freljord.

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

:))))

Was just having a conversation with a friend the other day about some of the more interesting and great champion themes, viego was one of them but the other five were Gwen, Kindred, Taliyah, Braum and Ornn. All of them are fantastic and would love to eventually see you check them out

Another interesting bit about this theme is that that part at the end is borrowed from Pentakills "Blade of the Ruined King", an earlier song from LoLs metal band. Along with the Gwen thing it's nice to see them pay that much attention across the board

Liking this series, def do kindred next

I love your videos I am always interested when people analyse music especially if the music has lore or some kind of an idea of what the character is. I love the format where you look at the trailers and the lore of the character to see how well you've pulled out the lore and character's personality from the music. Here are my favourites from League of Legends that me and others would love to see your reaction to. Kindred's theme. Cinematic: Kindred: Listen to Their Tale Aphelios's theme. Cinematic: Aphelios: The Weapon of the Faithful Azir's theme. Cinematic: Shurima: Rise of the Ascended Zed's theme. Cinematic: Zed: Death Mark Can't wait to see more content!

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them ❤️

Poppy's theme (also from LoL) is awesome. Excellent use of Dorian mode there. Would love to see it in a vid.

Guessed everything perfectly, as per usual. You should try Gwen next, she's connected to Viego by lore, and you can hear that in her theme. Other than that, Akali, Irelia, Taliyah, Swain, Renata Glasc, Warwick, Nilah, Kindred (personally, the best one in the game) are great themes too, but are also mostly wildly different from what you've heard so far :) There is of course more, Riot's music team is just great, man. I love watching these, can't wait for more

Can we appreciate how Marco got it so right i was starting to be suspicious that he read something about Viego before recording the video but i don't think so i believe he can guess the story about characters from their music alone which shows how talented Marco is , really love your videos they give me goosebumps for real seeing how passionate you are about music keep up, amazing work.

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

I've not once looked up lore before any of these haha thank you so much

@othmanrasheed87

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcoMeatball that's really amazing i love it

I love your guessing videos and I would love a video on Mordekaiser if you can guess who he is

Once again, you pretty much guessed who Viego is from the theme alone. Both you and riot's music team are amazing. There's also Lucian, (the one you saw in the cinematic), who has a cool theme (one of my favorite tbh). But there's not much going on, as in the characterization of the character in his theme is spot on.

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!!!

To me the best theme will always be Camille. She also has amazing lore and I highly recommend if you like harpsichord and violin.

Omg the music box is pure beauty

new you would love this theme considering your opera background cant wait to see you react to more my vote always goes to aphelios champion theme

Love your content. I just subscribed. Keep doing what you love. And would be awesome if you do aphelios "the weapon of the faithful" next. It's my fav champ in Lol.

I am refusing to believe you didn't read his lore beforehand. For real tho everything from 1 minute of music, impressive recognition of themes and leitmotifs, bravo

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

Swear to you I didn’t

Please check out Mundo theme sometime in the future. On a side note I tell people that League's themes are amazing in a fact that they portray the story and the general gist of the characters as well as their feelings. AND YOU MY GUY are the perfect example of that, the first cut in you make your analysis in spot on about who and how Viego is. Love the content and i suggest you check out Gwen next as her theme is a direct opposite/ component to Viegos. Other amazing themes are: Sylas, Kindred or Taric

I'm still waiting for Aphelios and nice video as always ^^

I would love to see you check out maybe some of more fun and light hearted champions! Braum, Kled, Taliyah, Poppy and Ivern all have fantastic themes!

you just simplified his whole lore in the first 5 sec of the theme, how?? truly a master

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

:)

I think its my favourite theme from LoL. It just sounds so good and epic.

I love this. Thank you

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

Welcome

you guessed the entire story based on the first 10seconds with the music box. insane

You should totally check out Xayah and Rakan's theme. Very interesting watch! I feel like you got it down instantly.

Viego's theme has always been a really fascinating and entertaining piece to really listen to.

you need to hear gwen's theme, because her theme is the reverse of viego's theme literary !

As long as the event and the cinematic being really bad, Viego the Ruined King is one of the most long awaited and most satisfying character reveals in the whole story for me.

"Viego is old. Viego is damaged." Viego is absolutely ROASTED ten seconds into his theme. Viego and Gwen's are two of my favourite base character themes, alongside Aurelion Sol and Jhin. The two were released...I think one after the other? and are very intertwined in the lore, and they're two of the most beautiful and emotional themes in the game.

Amazing series. I highly recommend Swain, Warwick, and Evelynn to add to your list

The Morgana and kayle theme is really great too!

the viego history .... is just a big tragedy.... is literally the definition of the famous question " what can go wrong? " and destiny answers "everything".... this is why well me as many other people want a some sort of redemption to the man... a way for him to go and be happy once again ...... he was never inherently evil but what he went through in his life his low emotion maturity , his lack of preparation , the shaddy people who used him in his most desperate time .... made him went crazy and do atrocitys as far the history could told.... but there was still some piece of him deep inside that was good.... and it just wanted the only thing in his life that had value for him .... his wife

YES I can finally stop asking him to listen to it on every video! Also the music box melody is that of a music box Viego gave to Isolde as a wedding gift. That little music box motif comes up almost inevitably whenever Viego rears his pretty boy head.

The Absolution cinematic tells part of his story a bit more, also explains the music box that is used in the song.

You asked me last time to remind you to listen to Tahm Kench soon so here I am :)

I can’t reach out to you any further than this! Dante’s Infero I feel like is just insane, so many feelings so many regrets. I wish I had enough money to ask on Patreon. Plus, this game is WORTH listen to. I’ve played this game three times! Please hear me out.

There is also a cinematic called Absolution, which is also about Viego, please watch it.

Great video. really close guess, as usual. 👍

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

As vaguely accurate as possible lmao.

I think you have the entire timeline in this piece. Music box that represents a woman, romanticism, madness and the fall. There is a lot of small bits in this music that make a very complicated whole if it makes any sense. ;)

1:39 "and i think he has lost quite a bit...and maybe this is a quest to find what he has lost, and he doesn't care who gets in his way" WOW dude, you really are insane at this.

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 🥰🥰🥰

I don’t know what this video does in my recommended but the gigachad on the thumbnail deserves a like

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

Which one…?

Ah man you had to react to Viego's theme from Ruined king game, that one was a this but so much more detailed and perfect

It scary how you correctly guesses Viego, he is supposely a King, but still act childist, he is obssess with his queen, ever since she died he just wanted to brought her back in which create a ruination, he become damned, ruined, and still dellusion about his queen and to find her, the music box is a gift he got from his queen during their wedding day which he still hold dear, but now came the title Ruined King Viego, his missions is to brought back his queen, he does not care if it cause the world to end, he will find his lover, which came the sentinel who is the hero of the story trying to stop him from ending the world, moral of the story, even if it hurt to see your love one die, just move on, it will still hurt, but you'll find happy somewhere else, which I recommend Akshan theme because he is one of the sentinel who also lost his dear, but he learn to move on after the defeat of Viego (well Banish is a better term here). (notice his chest that have a triangle in it? yeah after the first time he resurected his wife, she stabbed him with his own sword which then now is the main cause for all the mist, damned, and the monster coming out, to either find his wife or controling others to find his wife.)

the ruined king may be a bit of a mess in game but his music is great, cant wait to see how ya guess his character from it

if you have the time, you could also watch the intro for the ruined king game, where an iteration of viego's theme is played and basically shows the part of the story where isolde stabs him with his own sword and the ruination begins

He listened for 1 minute and figured viego perfectly

You deffined viego in the first minute of the video. Congratulations

@MarcoMeatball

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😂

You need to do Gwen now. But I'd also like to hear Aurelion Sol

Man listens to first 20 seconds and is like "Imma explain him perfectly rn"

If you want to experience another big stylistic change I would suggest Yone, also has a fantastic pair of cinematics that go with him specifically Kin of the Stained blade

I would love to see you react to the Ornn theme song as I find it very beautifully made.