whichever character i main is the weakest, that's the rule

@pottedplant37_

3 жыл бұрын

Guess Ichigo's trash now

@chechakkimnorbirth3777

3 жыл бұрын

And whichever character the opponent takes is busted and op

@xBlaster

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, I was a Tails main since 2016, and his placement on the tier list was always a frickin rollercoaster...

@supersreesreeram6736

3 жыл бұрын

i am a sandbag main... wtf is wrong with me

@supersreesreeram6736

3 жыл бұрын

@Daisy Peranio r u good man, someone take him to the theripist

The fact that goku is considered one of the weakest has to be the funniest thing I've ever heard lol

@standard8418

3 жыл бұрын

Why's that?

@valef0rt360

3 жыл бұрын

@@standard8418 cuz at high level he is insane, but yeah he should get some buffs mainly for his kaioken and up b, his throws could get some nerfs instead

@gage2494

3 жыл бұрын

BuT cAn ThEy BeAt GoKu?

@acasualuser1617

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, like he always sit in top 20 strongest dudes in any fictions.

@ahmadkazan217

3 жыл бұрын

@SKS-Killer I mean smash isn't low on planet,universe and possibly multiverse busting charatcers but I am not that far into DB lore.

Shower thought: sandbag can grab people but can't grab ledge

@babyray9426

3 жыл бұрын

apparently he can't hold his weight as shown in smash ultimate sandbag is rather heavy

@SabirTheHuman

3 жыл бұрын

He can't hold his weight, he has ate too many cheetos.

@ogluigi

2 жыл бұрын

He can't hold his weight but he can grab another sandbag hmmmm

@buckIin

Жыл бұрын

@@ogluigi it's the weight of the OTHER sandbag, not HIS weight

Between how Goku still hasn't gotten his recolors and how underwhelming he is I can almost guarantee Goku's getting a rework soon

@sestytoes389

3 жыл бұрын

Bro, in my class goku is my main and my friends get so mad at me because of my arials and kamehameha

@IIIISai

3 жыл бұрын

@@sestytoes389 Kaioken is busted, if used right

@robmacher3253

3 жыл бұрын

I'm still waiting for Zelda to get her recolors.

@aronplay7379

3 жыл бұрын

I was a old player from the 0.9 and see the actual goku and its nerfed lol the hame hame ha cant change ->

@DanielPerez-ol4jn

3 жыл бұрын

Goku it has been my main for years, actually he can do very good loops, it will hurts if that happens D,:

The weakest character is my online service

@Dezlite

3 жыл бұрын

I can totally agree with that.

@juanpablo.a

3 жыл бұрын

Yes lol its so hard for me to play online.

@DehydratedDarkness

3 жыл бұрын

@@juanpablo.a Oh 70 ping, did you mean 70000?

@juanpablo.a

3 жыл бұрын

@@DehydratedDarkness What?

@monotromatic2951

3 жыл бұрын

Filipino Gang?

sandbag is WAY underrated imo. his combos, movement, and kill power is just crazy

@Insider0013

3 жыл бұрын

The problem with all that is that he has basically no neutral whatsoever

@owenmurphy924

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call his movement crazy, there are some strange quirks about sandbag that are difficult for sandbag players to get around and they make sandbag super punishable

@htesdev

3 жыл бұрын

I main him and you can get like 40 percent from doing down throw - dair

@htesdev

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder what his new re-sprite will give him.

@ivrydice0954

2 жыл бұрын

His movement is like one of his worse attributes lol.

Poor tails, he's such a well-made character with the sprites and fun moves. I bet he would be a lot better if he kept his old up special from 9.b. It would turn at least his recovery from the lowest to the highest tiers

@babylonreef

3 жыл бұрын

I miss his old up b, one of the best. His latest one is just trash.

@LunaMinuna

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he was really top tier and one nurf sunk him down

@egesorkultay4335

3 жыл бұрын

Tails Got İnsanely Nerfed after he was Number One on the Tier List

@anthonystrangio

3 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t Tails literally the best character in the game with his old recovery

@egesorkultay4335

3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonystrangio Yeah He was.

Tails struggles because of his recovery, if they gave him his old upb back, I think he’ll be solid

@rightdaytosaystudio7920

3 жыл бұрын

Has a Tails Main, I agree with you 100% I don't even use his current up-b

@criticalf0ll0w16

3 жыл бұрын

Ever since they made it to where your little robot does not go through shield and the whole jump decay thing tails has become ALMOST unplayable he can still do things and his combos are amazing but when it comes to recovering he's pretty bad

@rightdaytosaystudio7920

3 жыл бұрын

@@criticalf0ll0w16 Tails should be a character that would be feared in the air, Having a bad recovery is a huge problem

@criticalf0ll0w16

3 жыл бұрын

@@rightdaytosaystudio7920 actually the thought just came to mind the robot is really good because it makes the opponent jump putting the opponent where tails wants them to be if only the robot had more health in the form of super armor (2-3 hits no matter the damage should be enough to disable it) but I think that would be to strong

@imuiki

3 жыл бұрын

Remember the tail's floating in 1.0 :))

In my honest opinion, because of the engine of the game, each character feels super smooth and strong with their combos. So when saying which character is the weakest, I’ll say depending on who is playing the character.

@BowlerSSF2

3 жыл бұрын

I definitely think the difference from the best to worst is much smaller in SSF2 compared to some other smash games, so I can agree with that to a good extent.

@mrmelonmanag8733

3 жыл бұрын

@@BowlerSSF2 dude, you have no idea how much it feels good to main random in this game.

@bizhaunbrown1202

3 жыл бұрын

I like to think every character is equal It just depends who is your opponent And who is playing

@FlinnMeister

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrmelonmanag8733 A fellow random main. A man of culture, I see.

@achmadalibonga2232

3 жыл бұрын

@@FlinnMeister ahh i main random too

4:15 tails is known for flying also tails: Has one of the worst recoveries in the game

@UntarLaManteca

2 жыл бұрын

His horizontal recovery is good tho

@UntarLaManteca

2 жыл бұрын

Like dk

@gammaf1365

2 жыл бұрын

@@UntarLaManteca well, yeah... but if you know how to play around his side b, is kinda easy to edgeguard, and once this happens, he is dead because his main recovery tool are his jumps

I miss Tails’ side B back before Beta where it was his Sonic Adventure 1 spin. I used to go crazy with that move.

@thefollower2933

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, it was cool but it was way too spammable.

@isaiahmills2235

3 жыл бұрын

Side B to jump to Nair to dair, my favorite combo

A really neat thing about SSF2 is that every character feels fun to play as, to some extent. I'm a casual player who mains random and spends most of my time playing against the CPU, trying to learn how to combo, and I win with every character 99% of the time, and have fun doing it without advanced tech. So, every character is high-tier in terms of fun for me personally. Except when I'm against a Wario CPU. Then nobody gets to have any fun.

@juliayesymunozbendezu775

3 жыл бұрын

yep

@shn4449

3 жыл бұрын

That Wario side b spam is annoying

@veselinborisov369

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more with you! I am also a casual player and have fun playing against the CPU. I have never really cared about advanced techs or frame data and such. The only thing which can be considered advanced when I play is the spikes I go for. But that's about it. I play with every character and I think everyone is very fun. And about fighting the Wario CPU... I am glad I am not the only one who thinks that the battles against Wario are more infuriating rather than fun.

@neo676

3 жыл бұрын

Also the Ness ai, peach ai, naruto ai, samus ai, ZSS ai, link ai spam side b

@neo676

3 жыл бұрын

Oh and tails ai

definitively whoever i play when there's lag

As a loyal Tails main, I can so with confidence that his pressure game has really plummeted since then. Before, he was really able to keep his opponent with the tools he had. Now? He's practically a joke. I feel like his tech doesn't really give him any leg ups, since they're usually all getaway tools. I must also say that his fall speed really doesn't align with his weight (he's light, yet falls like a brick) so that REALLY makes it hard for him to recover. There's just so many other things that hinder him from being good.

@chrispo7610

3 жыл бұрын

His fallspeed to weight is akin to spacies

@sonicth4

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrispo7610 No it isn't, bro. Fox and Falco don't die nearly as easy as Tails does

Flashback to v0.9b when Tails had the best combos and best recovery and was just overall the best character. How the times have changed...

We’re finally back to frequent uploads, glad your back!

I open up the video and I immediately get greeted with MapleStory music. You have made my day

Bandana Dee: *exists* SSF2 Community: "so yeah, Goku is the worst, also he's from anime"

@blxckshp3125

3 жыл бұрын

Lloyd: exist SSF2 community: “mhm Goku is trash and his recover sucks

@VaporeyeZ

3 жыл бұрын

Bandana Dee is good af

Funny how Goku can become good enough to have Mastered Ultra Instinct but he can't be good enough to make it past F tier.

Could we get a top 5 best characters in the game soon? Great video, good stuff!

I don’t know what world I live in, but my little bro DESTROYS ME when he plays Goku. I was honestly surprised. Edit. My bro is 14. If you played him locally, if you get hit once, it practically a stock gone guaranteed.

@b9morion

3 жыл бұрын

Then you know what that means

@youseftheh4869

3 жыл бұрын

Git gud smh

@FlinnMeister

3 жыл бұрын

@@youseftheh4869 No like he is REALLY GUD at Goku. We go hard when we play. Maybe a little too competitive. He knows Goku like the back of his hand. He also dislikes online gameplay because of input delay. So we don’t do that often.

@synnamon_toast_crunch

3 жыл бұрын

@@FlinnMeister Goku has high kill power, in the right hands hes dangerous

@chechakkimnorbirth3777

3 жыл бұрын

I also always beat the crap out of my older brother with zss

bien, nuevo video. soy un gran fan tuyo, eres el unico que da noticias del desarrollo de fraymakers

Me who played Goku years ago simply cuz he liked Dragon Ball: *salt*

@datguy0416

3 жыл бұрын

same here xD

@blxckshp3125

3 жыл бұрын

We feel ya but... he only got kaioken which sucked in the manga

@smashingstack9498

3 жыл бұрын

@@blxckshp3125 & it kinda sucks in SSF2

@maxalain9948

3 жыл бұрын

@@smashingstack9498 kinda? Nah it *sucks* sucks. It's terrible

@RaphielShiraha64

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxalain9948 even his kamehameha suck that shit take so long to fucking charge

Just wanna say that I main Tails btw, he has great combo game and can kill surprisingly with his Up Aerial and Down B.

I don't know if I'm used to it, but for me goku is a regular character

Are you gonna do the opposite theme later on? (The best character as voted by the community)

This is kinda random, but the background music is *REALLY* great, just putting that out there.

@veselinborisov369

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, especially the menu theme remix that plays when Bowler talks about Sandbag and Goku. I need a link to that remix, it just sounds very good. EDIT: Well, for those who also wanted to listen to that beautiful theme but couldn't find it, here is a link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2l_ramokcu9lLQ.html&t . Enjoy!

@WiiMoteGodYT

3 жыл бұрын

@@veselinborisov369 Thank you, saving it to my music playlist.

I'm a Jigg main and I totally agree with you but I think she really needs a sing buff because you litterally get punished for hitting the move if the opponent isn't 80% or more

thanks for the video

Sandbag is one of my favourite fighting game designs or at least my favourite joke character design

Tails is so easy to cheese, I just use fox shine to kill him half the time. RiP his old recovery

@ishaan6621

2 жыл бұрын

A I z e n

The only thing they need to do is rework his moveset and add some moves from Fighterz. Hell, I can see it man.

Sandbag has shown me the benefit of having a joke character. because SOMEONE has to be the worst. having a character designated as the worst gives you a good point of reference for balanace.

How Bomberman wasn’t on this list is beyond me

@BowlerSSF2

3 жыл бұрын

You should see Akabonba, puts in hella work with bomberman, big reason the character is considered pretty good

@tjackknife6590

3 жыл бұрын

@@BowlerSSF2 Still think the character could benefit from a Mega Man level of moveset overhaul.

@SS5K

3 жыл бұрын

Imo Bomberman has stage control & mindgames/pressure with bomb setting

@mettatonex745neo5

3 жыл бұрын

simple answer: akabonba.

@cadetjones9205

3 жыл бұрын

Even without Akabonba showing off, Bomberman can turn a whole stage into a kill confirm at every roll in a matter of seconds, that fact alone keeps from ever grazing low tier.

I didn't know they added ganon to ssf2, nice

My main's Kirby but i've been playing Puff recently and i do agree with you, she's good but the bad matchups are REALLY bad.

How do I play this game now in July 2021? I can't seem to find the right download link for this version... or is there a website where I can still play this?

I stopped playing SSF2 when Tails ban stuff was about, but lord what on earth has happened to make Tails genuinely considered the worst by a somewhat decent amount of people.

@diogoayres7953

3 жыл бұрын

look at the 1.2 changelog and that should tell everything

hey bowler, wanted to know if the weird aerial rollout jank was patchet

the video is good but that music in the beginning stole my attention

IF SOMEONE WAS JOINING THE SSF2 and their like "oh my gosh GOKU? i'm gonna play him!" and we're just like why

I can't be the only one who's hearing Maplestory music in the background am I? sounds like a remix of Raindrop Flower which plays at early areas of Evere.

ganon, easily. yes you have your cool twitter combos and doriyahs. now try to land them when the whole cast just dances around you. try making it back on stage. try getting out of disadvantage.

Hey Bowler hope you are doing well and interesting video.

@BowlerSSF2

3 жыл бұрын

Oh woah, haven't seen you in a hot minute, how you been?

@mandalorianhunter1

3 жыл бұрын

@@BowlerSSF2 I know living situation is still a lot of trouble but I am doing better. 2020 was a mostly better year for me. How was it for you and who's your main now?

Very funny that Yoshi's on the thumbnail, Bowler!

@azu_chrv

3 жыл бұрын

He prolly saw you playing and came to that conclusion

@BowlerSSF2

3 жыл бұрын

@@azu_chrv 💀💀💀

@mettatonex745neo5

3 жыл бұрын

bruh yoshihaze just got absolutely SMOKED.... 💀💀💀

@yoshihaze1525

3 жыл бұрын

@@azu_chrv Blame ricoco not me

@andricode

3 жыл бұрын

@@azu_chrv SSF2 community comment right there, fan of toxicity

I'll admit, sandbag is kinda bad, but he is the funniest character in the game.

I wonder why falco’s icon was there at the start

Man! that´s disappointing, my main is sandbag, I thing with a good amount of matches you can master it and make a good game against any character, anyway, love your content!

@ivrydice0954

2 жыл бұрын

Most people who play Bag knows he's bad but plays him anyway cause funny bag.

What's the name of that song in the intro?

I havent played in a while, im surprised that tails and goku are here, they were both broken at some point

Goku definitely needs the zenkai boost :]

Maybe they can make gananondorf have like a levitate while he runs, since he does it in his taunt.

Meanwhile me expecting Luffy on this list because I never understood how to use him efficiently when almost all of his attacks are grabs

I believe Goku can be better if he get some buff. Like for example, he could teleport when you charge a kamahamaha(like once or twice to trick your opponents.). Or at least try to speed up some attacks. Maybe try to put back that down smash from the previous versions. That one was really good until they replace it with energy balls instead. But that's just my opinion. I would love him to be back up there again with naruto.

wait its already been 2 years since ganon has been out? i thought he came out like a few months ago 😭

i wish i could still play this game

I made puff look godlike in my school even though I didn’t really know what I’m doing. It was hilarious

It makes me sad seeing Ganon as 5 th rated. It also makes me confused considering I play him best out of all the other characters

well normally I haven't had a main I would always use my char at random whenever I felt like it,yet I wouldn't choose chars like sandbag or tails (most of the time my bro and I would fight against eachother and he would be the one to choose tails I wouldn't) but right now I really kinda main pit I dunno why I just do

Honestly, Sandbag is my favorite character, so it hurts that he's here and in 2nd place for the worst.

While I don't know who actually is the worst character, I did consider "maining" Ganondorf and Jigglypuff at different points during this update. Though I dropped Ganondorf mainly because of his speed, and I dropped puff not because she was bad or anything my eyes just started to wonder off to different characters. Currently am on the Bowser train but I will see where that one goes. Also was for a short time on the Peach and Yoshi train. Funilly enough I am usually someone who picks up top tiers by accident in this game. Zelda in 0.9B (my favorite character ever) and Samus during one update she was broken in iirc. I wonder if I land on a top tier again this time.

I have little knowledge of the competitive scene, I'm a basic casual player, heck, I'm a Sandbag main, but I wanna give my two cents here. Any character, those who are bad, like Melee Kirby, and those who are extremely good, like Brawl Meta Knight, can be used in interesting ways, even to the point where their competitive viability is brought to question. So in my eyes, even a terrible character can be good as long as the player using them knows how to use them in the best way. Yes, even Melee Kirby could be good, and Brawl Meta Knight could be awful. That's just my thoughts though.

Every character is epic in their own way if they are being played in the right hands😎😎😎

Ayo bowler upleaded it’s not likes it’s only been 3 uploads in the year

And wich would you say are the best most broken characters

I wont agree or disagree... but that sandbag gameplay in the back hurt the kidneys

@Somthing8P

3 жыл бұрын

All I'm saying is hey bowler ever wanna trash talk sandbag thats all right but just reach out if you need some top notch bag gameplay and it'll be there yesterday.

参考になりました。

how do you publicize the ssf2 repalys lives? I can't because it is an ssfrec file

@Zalozis

3 жыл бұрын

.ssfrec is just a script of the gameplay inputs to recreate the match, not a video file. You have to manually record the replay as it plays with a OBS or any other program.

I feel like some of the top tiers are at the top because they have something broken about them

as a puff main i've hearded more times "hbox wannabe" than my name

Did you know Sandbag has a pretty much wavedash mechanic where if you press diagonally down, down b on the ground he’ll do a slide with zero lag. Pretty useful… #SandbagSupporter!

ganon has confirmed down-b into up-b off stage at high percents

I am a sandbag main , its fun

New epic ssf2 video 😎

Yeah I don’t even play this game a lot but when I tried him he felt terrible lol, I think luffy feels bad too but goku’s on another level

Sambe de amigo would be cool in this game. The end

I think my problem with the game is I'm only here to play the new characters. black mage, bandanna dee, and sandbag are my favorite characters but pretty much none of the others interest me because I could just play ultimate instead (plus I'm not a fan of playing online so it could be that too)

Maplestory jazz intro

Watching this even though I've never played this game. How did they give Tails of all characters a bad recovery?

@saitinclock238

3 жыл бұрын

The engine change makes Tails fall faster, so despite having 5 jumps each one doesn't get much height. Additionally, Up B throws a robot instead of serving as a recovery move. Lastly, Side B's high endlag limits it's recovery potential

@crazynaut223

3 жыл бұрын

His recovery overall is actually pretty alright, it's mostly just exploitable because of the lack of a recovery up special. But his five jumps are fairly versatile and horizontally he fares much better.

@foxygramps1207

3 жыл бұрын

@@crazynaut223 Interesting. It's just ironic to me that Tails of all people can have trouble getting back. Kid's literally known for flying around.

@RaphielShiraha64

3 жыл бұрын

@@foxygramps1207 he used to be way stronger literally highest rank for most of the community but he got OOFED on 1.2 changelog

i keep thinking this but,GUKO NEEDS A GODDAMN UODATE

to be brutally honest I hate how you actively avoid every chance to criticise the game , criticism is what build great games and you have the voice to reach out to MCLgaming ,the developers aren't babies they can take it trust me

@giridharanp2705

3 жыл бұрын

In what way is he 'avoiding' the chance to criticize

@amgdeg4897

3 жыл бұрын

@@giridharanp2705 good question , so at the end he knew goku was bad and they did him dirty but he never outright says that , and the he goes for sandbag as the weakest and says "Its part of their design" so he doesn't hurt the devs feelings and its not just this video , if you go back to older ones he never points out anything bad about the game while we all know its not perfect

@lubiehue7177

3 жыл бұрын

@@amgdeg4897 but goku isn’t bad tho And sandbag essentially being a joke character justifies him being bad Weaknesses does not equal bad design. I legitimately cannot think of a way to buff sandbag without ruining his design

@amgdeg4897

3 жыл бұрын

@@lubiehue7177 agreed on the sandbag part , but Imo goku is badly designed From his uninspired nair to his forgettable up/forward smash And for such an iconic character too with SO MANY thing to reference I never been a dragonball super fan so this isn't me being biased but I think goku should be a top tier (high tier at least) , why? , because he is fucking goku

@lubiehue7177

3 жыл бұрын

@@amgdeg4897 I completely admit that I'm biased towards Goku. From a gameplay point of view, he's literally perfect. The most fun character in the game for me without equal, and a couple of other Goku players share my sentiment. However, I also know that his sprites are absolute dogshit, and his moves are incredibly lame in comparison to what his moveset could be. However, I just don't believe in them making a new moveset that'll be just as fun as this, I'm scared of losing the current goku for something completely different, I absolutely agree with a resprite however. He's 100% a midtier btw, there's no way I play this game competitively since .9b only for my best character to be bottom 5, a lot of the competitive side is gradually turning favorably towards goku after a bunch of players including me picked him up and actually started working on him.

Damn Goku ain't gettin much love from y'all smh

Goku just needs to be in the right hands, of course average smash players would say he's trash.

I really don’t understand why Ganon is said to be bad in this game. I think Ganon is at least Mid in this game. There are at least more than one characters that are worse than Ganon.

Ganondorf and Goku may not be the best but they are aesthetically sick

it would be hilarious if sandbag was made as a top tier (also press F for goku)

I am a Goku Main but the problem is that he cant aim his Kamehameha in eight directions at least. His recovery is bad besides the float. But once you get that Kaioken he easily becomes one of the best in the game

0:22 **'Project M' enters the chat**

2 Characters that canonically fly have bad vertical recoveries. Ironic.

Can you please tell me how you are able to play ssf2 without adobe

@crazynaut223

3 жыл бұрын

Download the game

is there a discord for ssf2 I cant find

@crazynaut223

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you can find a link on the website, or in the top left corner of the title screen

When you can use kaio-ken good then you can win in 5 seconds

Second Worst character Bowler : Sandbag Tichampi : *Hold my beer*

@briamty2893

3 жыл бұрын

tichampi's sandbag kinda trash ngl

@xbgsheikiii3593

3 жыл бұрын

@@briamty2893 did you fight him before?

@eseriversataniconuclear22

3 жыл бұрын

@@briamty2893 tru tru......

@Tichampi

3 жыл бұрын

Wrost :sandbacool:

@xbgsheikiii3593

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tichampi 😶

To be honest, I not main with one character, I was playing all characters for fun!

tbh melee kirby isnt that bad, its just that people tend to play him as an air character despite having some of the best tilts in the game

I'm a tails main, yes the recovery sucks but tails has great combo game and grabs in my opinion

8:09 ender cameo

Goku used to be good but now I just can't use him anymore

THE DASH ATTACK OF GANONDORF IS JUST TOO BAD,IS SLOW AND DOESNT KILL,HAS A LOT OF ENDLAG AND ALSO NO IS VERY USEFUL FOR COMBOS LIKE SMASH 4

I've played the 0.8 and 0.9a version, Goku is my favorite character of the game, good teleport, overpower transformation, and others, and Naruto have a hit-kill rasengan.