Ah, yes.. the end game crisis that can appear. The game chooses from: The unbidden, the unbidden, the unbidden, the unbidden, the unbidden, prethoryn scourge, , the unbidden, The contingency, nemesis player, or.. though rarely the unbidden

@darkreaver01

6 ай бұрын

That's funny for me. I've gotten. The contingency twice in the 2 playthroughs I've ran to completion.

@intrepidferret6704

6 ай бұрын

@@darkreaver01 how much have you played?

@darkreaver01

6 ай бұрын

@intrepidferret6704 not a whole ton yet. Like I said I've played it twice to completion so far so not much in the way of a pool. I have been wanting to see the other crisis, especially since the contingency is kinda the hardest one to counter in theory

@snaipd2582

5 ай бұрын

the unbidden have several extra triggers compared to the other 2, namely researching warp engines gives them a higher chance to spawn. then again, imagine not playing on 25x "all" setting.

@honestylowkeye1171

5 ай бұрын

It's your fault for always being in such a hurry

A huge reason why the Contingency is the strongest is the Ghost Signal. Not only does the Contingency spawn in 4 different systems, it influences synthetics on a massive scale, using them for sabotage, while simoltaneously breaking through the firewalls of the greatest galactic artificial superintelligences. The other two crises use only brute force.

@art-games6230

6 ай бұрын

Sometimes that’s more then enough….

@thegooddoctor2009

6 ай бұрын

Laughs in fanatic spiritualist.

@michaelludlow626

6 ай бұрын

Yeah if you're a robotic empire, you will get a unique situation where the contingency is hacking you, and you have to research (in the situation log) a way to push them back, if successful you get to ask them who made them

@lakdav

6 ай бұрын

@@thegooddoctor2009 Yeeaaah, because psionics are **never** influenced negatively by some massively more powerful entity that is actually a threat to the galaxy :D

@AAhmou

6 ай бұрын

@@lakdav To be fair such entity is mostly a threat to whatever psyonic empire spawned it.

The true strongest crisis is us after some random empire kills bubbles

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Agree.

@sinbotosimmons7624

27 күн бұрын

That's when you go from peaceful xenophile to imperium of man.

Lore Wise, I am 100% sure the Unbidden is the strongest. You kill off the Scourge and obliterate the Contingency however, you merely defeat the Unbidden. It is clear what you fight is merely a fraction of what the Unbidden's full might is.

@professorjurassic

6 ай бұрын

True We've only seen three factions of the unbidden

@grandmagunsales2125

6 ай бұрын

@@professorjurassic The very idea of a full on galactic Unbidden Battle Royale scares me. Every color of the rainbow... fighting not only for dominance but to see who has the biggest holographic wallet out of em all

@Aesyaan

6 ай бұрын

while that is most certainly true, if we take only into consideration what we fight, the contingency has no hard-counter to their fleet design, can halt/hack some of the most powerful superintelligences, and in gameplay they have more fleets than any crisis, each with higher fleet power than any other crisis. On a full scale as you mention.. I am inclined to agree that the Unbidden would come out on top

@professorjurassic

6 ай бұрын

@Aesyaan If they can they could just use the Soviet strategy. Aka throw bodies at the wall

@ctdaniels7049

5 ай бұрын

Do truly defeat the Unbidden, you need a magic gun, but where would you purchase that?

End of the Cycle should be mentioned, as the way it spawns into the galaxy is the exact description of what Contingency is trying to stop. That's the covenant that morphs a civilization into a one psionic being which I believe is the class 30 singularity. Also before Contingency the End of the Cycle was considered as unofficial/hidden Crisis. Poor thing, always forgotten. ;( XD

@javelin1423

6 ай бұрын

i'd blame its low chance of spawning, but then it wouldn't be a hidden crisis now would it.

@darkbeetlebot

6 ай бұрын

Personally I think the "Become the Crisis" event is what the contingency was actually created to stop. And the Aetherophasic Engine is what causes a Class-30 Singularity.

@Mr.Jakkar

6 ай бұрын

@@javelin1423 Yeah during all of my numerous games as psionic empire I got it only once and at the time I didn't knew what it was so I declined, regretting my choice to this day. :/

@Kniazz

6 ай бұрын

@@darkbeetlebot Tbh, it'd be nice if Aetherophasic Engine forced Contingency to trigger - and trigger at a much greater force than normal, since it's plausible to assume Contingency AI couldn't hack/wake up all of the available worlds when it ignored proper awakening protocols.

@goeijmejisju1510

6 ай бұрын

It's incredibly weak

The strongest crisis is the friends we made along the way

@alessandromenegollo7957

6 ай бұрын

When your best ally gets the become the crisis ascension perk

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Right in the feels

I like to believe the Contingency is, itself, a Class 30 singularity, and wishes to stop any other being from becoming it

@boxlions2073

4 ай бұрын

It became what it was created to destroy

@julienvalley28

11 күн бұрын

@@boxlions2073 Or, it would rather destroy whatever might compare to it in terms of strength

its very mysterious that the unbidden have a glowy semi humanoid shape and travel around in ships. they even have factional rivalries. how did something from a whole other dimension wind up so unusually similar to something from our galaxy? how could they derive nutrition from life force that originates from a whole other dimension? could they be descended from organisms from our dimension who went over there sometime and became changed?

@lostbutfreesoul

6 ай бұрын

How many Aspiring Crisis races are successful?

@Edelweysss

6 ай бұрын

Maybe they are the result of a psionic ascended crisis empire type after the blow up of the engine.

@williamhanna9718

6 ай бұрын

They greatly resemble the demons of 40K It’s likely that they never had a beginning and just always were

@alphaxedtw9357

6 ай бұрын

We got some answers, tho unclear, in the Formless video that TRK posted earlier

@nicholasmercier9583

6 ай бұрын

Little pieces of the Abyss. Perhaps they embody entropy, and they feed on information.

Most certainly the strongest is a Player Crises, to the sheer fact they would be already established and might have prepared before-hand, perhaps even waiting for the perfect moment.

@Hmmmm8008

6 ай бұрын

Especially the Intergalactic Space Hitmen of the Empire of Crack Cocainus.

I believe it to be the Contigency. Their hubs could be anywhere, their isn’t a ship design that fully counters them and are seemingly unhackable. For the Scourge, bring an inorganic could cause them to “look the other way” for a time, and for the Unbidden, well they are shield based and we know their weakness, and thus be able to exploit them.

@nathancherd9109

6 ай бұрын

I would say lag is the most powerful, you can’t even use ships to counter

@SeismicHammer

6 ай бұрын

@@nathancherd9109 Unless you're fanatical purifiers

@commandoepsilon4664

6 ай бұрын

I had one game where 3 of the 4 hubs appeared in my empire, one was one jump away from my matter decompressor, another 3 jumps from my primary forge world with the system with the shroud tunnel leading to my capitol in between the hub and my forge world, and the third was on the fringe of my empires space. Things did not go well...

@nathancherd9109

6 ай бұрын

@@SeismicHammer unless you can't get any dlc

Lore wise, Unbidden. When they actually fight eachother in game... usually, also, unbidden. The contingency's 4 weakpoint hubs don't have anything besides fleet power preventing you from rushing them. The scourge don't have any weakpoints but are obviously the weakest regardless, just their ability to assimilate worlds and use them to produce more of themselves. They all pale in comparison to a bored player empire though

@perrytran9504

5 ай бұрын

Unbidden: "We are playing literal 4D chess to your feeble checkers." Player: *nods and loads whirlwind missiles*

@sephtis

4 ай бұрын

I'm picturing Nick frost loading a shotgun. "Heh, shame."

@derpidius6306

3 ай бұрын

Its a shame too because back when we had tiles the Scourge were more of a threat, now by the time they show up it takes them so long to purge a planet they can't replenish their fleets in time before they get wiped out

Personally I think it’s the Contingency purely due to the fact that there is no 1 hard counter ship design for them

@TheContingency25x

6 ай бұрын

Indeed, i would win

@ghfgxijaorgf5393

6 ай бұрын

and also because the most powerfull empire type, (machine empires) get big debuffs from them, and other non psionic empires get infiltrated

@art-games6230

6 ай бұрын

@@TheContingency25xyes, because you’re on 25x

@TheContingency25x

6 ай бұрын

@@art-games6230 I’m not even that strong. I could’ve been 50x or 100x. Now that would be strong

@art-games6230

6 ай бұрын

@@TheContingency25x what I’m saying is that if all crises were on 25x then you wouldn’t get a victory, or at least not easily

The unbidden used to be pretty strong when they were able to spread in every single direction, but the addition of hyperlanes only pretty much kneecapped them

@TheIT221

5 ай бұрын

It’d actually be interesting if they had the unbidden as the only type of crisis which could do that… would completely destroy any fortification based campaign…

@Kapturnik2741

3 ай бұрын

​@@TheIT221imagine having choke points in literall space lmao

@wildfire9280

Ай бұрын

⁠@@Kapturnik2741 logistical choke points at best, realistic space warfare sounds like a nightmare to me if we aren’t reverting back to singular engagements deciding entire wars

@andreymontag

Ай бұрын

​@@wildfire9280 PLEASE come back to this. I hate how you have to do a bunch of useless shit after already conquering every single enemy starbase, leaving them unable to win

Just had a play through with the contingency, all 4 machine worlds spawned in my space and I spent two decades holding them at bay while everyone else did nothing, final beat them and the ai decided my reward for saving them was a seven pronged invasion.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Standard AI :)

@forgottenzero897

Ай бұрын

aint gonna lie sounds really epic

On the other hand, the Aetherophasic Engine is the only singularity _seen_ ingame in what it is and what it does, merging the physical realm and the Shroud on a galactic scale, leaving behind only 'scars', the black holes... which then in turn are referenced on psionic overuse effects on spacetime continuum by yet another ancient race.

Something funny happened in my last playthrough. The Scourge first entered the galaxy through a section owned by Human Isolationists that were the most powerful empire in the game. The Scourge got wiped out almost immediately and the game continued like nothing happened.

I would expect the unbidden to be the strongest because of their extra-dimensional existence and them being able to travel between universes

@FoundBoy

6 ай бұрын

On the other hand, I think them breaking into our dimension imposes disadvatage on them. It's not their world, they are limited by diffrences of realities, which is apparent in their ship desing. Furthermore, they do not posses super intelligence, as far as I understand and are fractured. It's an empire of a diffrent weight class, sure, but it doesn't appear to be strongest in our universe.

@thorshammer7883

6 ай бұрын

Extra dimensional existence doesn't nessesarily mean it makes you the strongest depending on the durability and the functions and variables involved in how they scale.

@commandoepsilon4664

6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately for the Unbidden there don't seem to be missiles where they come from so they always end up like the Martians in War of the Worlds, except it's tiny exploding spaceships that kill them where as the largest of battleships may be ineffective.

@LauftFafa

12 күн бұрын

extra-dimensional mean just astral . they are literally just a strong kingdom invading us and having some advantages but there is nothing super or frightening about them in fact the are the most human of the 3. if we get a second galaxy wouldnt we aim to conquer it just like them ?

My theory is that the Unbidden and such ascended through the megastructure we use as the crisis. I imagine some life manages to survive (fallen empire or otherwise), and as such the Contingency were made after this event by an observing force (perhaps in Ultima Vigilis which survived such an incident) to prevent this from occurring again? Since that archeology can summon the unbidden before the endgame, I'd think that the contingency may be an outside force that uses other crisis's to deal with threats it perceieves, luring the unbidden to harvest a galaxy before it is abandoned.

@Hello-lf1xs

6 ай бұрын

Or maybe they saw it happen to another galaxy - since the entire galaxy isn’t all black holes

Definitely the Contingency. Hitting in multiple locations at once, synth infiltrators, the chance to hack one of the fallen empires. Also their hubs take a while to break if you don't have a colossus on hand. The contingency also forces most builds to drop from their best combat computers, something the other factions simply cannot do.

@jameslarkin4567

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely not vs the unbidden, they invade us during a 3 way civil war (at minimum) with dimensional travel. United unbidden wipes the contingency

We all know that there is also fourth crisis (and the most powerful) - freezes, lags and crashes from CPU & GPU frying away, trying to calculate all of the mess which is presented in late game period, especially if xeno-compatibility is turned on (exponentially multiplying number of species and subspecies).

@truemisto

6 ай бұрын

perhaps that's the class 30 singularity destroying reality

@kangsate3459

6 ай бұрын

Paradox late game final boss is real

@sephtis

4 ай бұрын

Add in a maxed out sentry array just to kill off the last few fps remaining.

"Hello Contingency. When she was alive, my grandmother would tuck me in every night and describe to me the definition of 'Class 30 Singularity' until I fell asleep. Could you do this for me so I can pretend she is still with us?"

13:15 The trooper with the shotgun was Sargent Johnson and no one can convince me otherwise

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

"Move like you've got a purpose marine!"

@atomicbuttocks

4 ай бұрын

considering his record with the flood i second this, the arks detonation didnt kill him, merely moved him to stellaris

I really love the idea that these 3 Crisis represent the 3 Evolutions an space civilization can become into The Unbidden: Mind Over Matter The Scourge: Evolutionary Mastery The Contingency: The Flesh is Weak

@Gnom-qy1ic

3 ай бұрын

But in order to speak with the scourge, need a psionic theory

@ArcAngle1117

3 ай бұрын

You could also think about it as the three types of Empire that are playable. A Hive Mind, a Machine Empire, and an Empire made up of Individuals.

I'm gonna say the Unbidden, hands down. Some new stuff (not spoiling anything) gives a huge amount of lore into the nature and origin of the Unbidden, Aberrant, and Vehement, as both a species, and why they're fighting eachother, what they're ultimately after, as well as why they're trying to kill you. That lore, as well as already known context clues, makes it abundantly clear that they're the most dangerous possible crisis, even more so than a player. The Aetherophasic Engine only destroys a single galaxy and tears a massive amount of the Shroud apart. The extradimensional energy beings are destroying entires universes over the course of their war. Killing the Contingency or Scrourge means you truly wiped them out. With both old and new information, it's abundantly clear that the forces you fight from the extradimensional invaders are not just a mere fraction of each of their full forces, but that even then, you're just a temporary side theater to their main conflict. It's possible, likely even, that even if one of the factions wipes out your galaxy, that in the grand scheme of things, the life force consumed wouldn’t do anything to alter the greater conflict in any meaningful way. To put it to an analogy, your galaxy is the Tau from Warhammer 40k. The Tau thought they drove off the full might of the Imperium of Man when they beat back an Imperial Crusade aimed at exterminating them. In reality, that was a relatively small force that was ultimately recalled because the Imperium needed them to kill other things elsewhere, and the Tau just weren’t worth the effort of going after any further. You don't destroy the extradimensional invaders. You just kick an ancillary force out of your universe/neck of the woods, and they're too busy with another war to bother putting in more effort with a second attempt.

The Contingency is the hardest of the 3 main crisis by a pretty significant margin. To be fair, though, the Contingency is also *much* newer than the other two crisises, since the old AI revolt was *hilariously* weak and got a pretty hefty TLC. It's still not nearly as bad as the End of the Cycle or a War in Heaven, though.

@wildfire9280

Ай бұрын

Did they really get TLC if they can’t feel it?

Funny theory I have: what if the Contingency are the ‘Hunters’ the Scourge is running away from?

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Could be!

@professorjurassic

6 ай бұрын

Not bad of a theory.

@NephritduGrey

6 ай бұрын

Would also fit the Unbidden species, given that they hunt life too and in a weird sense if the Scourge would cleanse a Galaxy the unbidden wouldn't have any feeding ground there too. And in turn if the Unbidden are the Class 30, well then now we went full circle didn't we?

@beartrappr2841

6 ай бұрын

It’s certainly the Unbidden. The antithesis to the scourge.

@florians9949

6 ай бұрын

@@beartrappr2841 The Contingency fits better. They Scourge says they are running away from the Hunters, meaning that they belong to the same reality and actively chasing after them. The Unbidden don’t belong to our plane of existence, meaning that making them hunt down something like the Scourge unlikely. The Contingency on the other hand are here to prevent a class 30 singularity, something that the Scourge could be doing and as such setting themselves as a target for extermination.

Excellently timed, as ever. Thanks for the Sunday drop, that's more valuable than you know! I hope all is well with you and yours, mate.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Happy Sunday James! Hope you enjoy it, can report all is well thank you. Busy but cannot complain, hope all is well with you.

@jamesdreads7828

6 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it. It is indeed, thanks man@@TheRedKing

Aeternum resurgence crisis to the other crisises: You don't seem to understand... this galaxy isn't yours to conquer.

@elekzerosept6240

6 ай бұрын

Blockkat Blokk-Dismantlers: hold my beer!

If you become the crisis before the contingency arrives, when they arrive they give you a special contact text and leave your galaxy. All crisis have a special contact message to justify why they won’t attack as you arrived first. I think the contingency say something about that galaxy already being infected and doomed or something. So I think a level 30 singularity is becoming the crisis??

The Unbidden lore got a little expanded in the latest DLC. Managed to actually loot the Eternal Throne mentioned in the video as a relic that makes all your leaders immortal.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

It did indeed - kzread.info/dash/bejne/jGh7uJStqLCflbg.html

My favorite is the contingency. They're fun to fight.

@bullythepros9699

6 ай бұрын

Boys we've found a masochist

@majorbytes2853

6 ай бұрын

Contingency was fun. They didn't really get to build up, we destroyed them so fast

The real crisis is the economic downfall of the galaxy caused by the bankruptcy(death) of that megacorp that just so happens to have a branch office in pretty much every SINGLE planet in the galaxy

@AspenBrightsoul

6 ай бұрын

As a machine empire main, we have no such weakness.

@gustavoboscardin9351

6 ай бұрын

​@@AspenBrightsoulcompared to these puny meatbags, we have no weakness at all Only thing they're better at is as batteries for our power systems

@islandwills2778

6 ай бұрын

Something along those lines happened to me .. only I was the megacorp and I got wrecked when the end game crisis smashed the nation I had most of my branch offices in lol

@jackhazardous4008

6 ай бұрын

I crashed the entire galaxy's economy by reforming away from a megacorp into an aristocractic oligarchy. All our branch officers got nice big manors when they came home

@jakebhenry2228

4 ай бұрын

Oh god, reminds me of my greatest mistake of having only one megacorp prospectorium which fed me 17,000 credits every month only for the species I purged excaped there and revolting and killing the 1 system conduit…True karma is horrifying.

Jokingly, whichever is the third one to hit when you have your Crisis setting set to "All." Lore wise, "strength" is relative. The Contingency is very dangerous to Synthetic Empires or Empires with large robotic populations. The Unbidden are factional, so there is a possibility that they might be weak to political attacks that stoke their infighting - even if they are, in total strength taken together, perhaps the strongest. And of course, the Preythorn are very dangerous for their ability to propagate. Although, as a representative for the Human Scientific Directorate, I have to comment that it is our official opinion that none of the so-called Crisis are particularly threatening. We would be happy to sell you, as our human brethren from Earth, the technology that we use in our defensive emplacements. We will send one of our fleets to defend Earth and reinforce some of your border colonies with our psionic soldiers when the scourge comes around. And we _promise_ that we will _definitely_ leave when the Crisis is over. Edit: my personal opinion is that a "Class 30 Singularity" refers to the point where Psionics, Material Technology, Biological Manipulation, and Artificial Intelligence merge. In other words, a "Class 30 Singularity" is not just a demigod like the Zroni - who did have limits - but an actual omnipotent god. By being able to "build" psionic beings, they can achieve an unlimited amount of integration with, and power over, the shroud. Imagine _whole planets turned into psionic entities._ They could use the shroud to produce matter to produce psionic beings to increase the influence of the shroud, until eventually reality and the shroud merge under the control of a universe spanning intelligence that is omnipotent and omniscient. Of course, we at the Human Scientific Directorate do not believe in such nonsense and we would like to assure you that we have no programs whoss task is to create living gods with total control over the universe. Any rumors you might hear that say otherwise are flagrant lies, as are the rumors that we assassinate anyone who spreads rumors. Those incidents were investigated and determined to be accidents and we find the insinuation that we have used our considerable psionic abilities to manipulate people into "accidental" deaths to be nothing but anti-psionic racist propoganda.

Everyone know the Blokkats are the strongest

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Do they exist though?

@TheContingency25x

6 ай бұрын

Nah, I’d beat them easy, purely because they aren’t canon.

@thorshammer7883

6 ай бұрын

Until the Stellarborne arrive to the galaxy and annihilate the Blokkat Vester craft.

@HaleTheFreeVoice

6 ай бұрын

I still haven’t gotten there yet but I find how they look to be hilarious. I’m like 45 years out

@TheContingency25x

6 ай бұрын

@@thorshammer7883 Nah. The main blokkat ship is legit invincible to any damage if you don’t create the megastructure.

I think we need 1-2 more cannon crises. These 3+the player with nemesis are pretty standard sci-fi fare ripped from more storied franchises. Maybe something like the Vong, a biological threat intent on integrating the galaxy into their hive mind, from Star Wars or the goa’uld from stargate, a technological threat intent on subjugating the galaxy. could be cool? I’m sure mods put these in some form into the game, but I think it would be cool to see them regularly.

@art-games6230

6 ай бұрын

I think the vong and scourge would be too similar but the ori sound like a good one, fanatic spiritualists that first send ground forces into a planet and create a wormhole from there ( could be in multiple places to prevent people from stopping them too quickly) then they send their ships through and unlike the other crisis they convert pops to their religion instead of killing them, resulting in the pops working for them. They also posses some psionic powers, perhaps something with astral actions and the only way to get a pop too join you again is a divine enforcer. The other options results in the majority (perhaps not all) pops committing suicide

@thorshammer7883

6 ай бұрын

Those do sound like good suggestions.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Agree, i'd like to see another crisis or two added - perhaps when/if Fallen Empires are reworked

@yahnmahn9035

6 ай бұрын

We already have the Bio-horror crisis in the form of the Scourge. And a regular old Empire from another Galaxy is even more bland.

@Hunter-pt4zy

6 ай бұрын

It would be super cool to see one more crisis at the least be added, and I think that's what will happen thanks to the isolated system with the broken ai planet. But what I do love about mods is that they do add some pretty freaking crazy crisis to at least fill the void. Gigas adds 3 more crisis in the form of Aeternum, Blokkats, and Katzen, although I wish they did not disrespect the original crisis to make themselves seem more dangerous as that seems rather shitty in all respects to the game. There's also Warship Girls R that adds in the United Fleet, and they are very dangerous and overpowered too. One of the most dangerous crisis I think is from Ancient Empire in the form of Gamma Situation, when at full power, they make even gigas crisis seem tame in power scaling. Ancient Empire has a lot of crisis actually, probably 7 in total. And of course I can't forget the Stellarborn, which initiate a galactic tournament to determine who in that galaxy should be left in charge to fight whatever this Shadow is. There is also the Lucivia Empire crisis from Stellar Regulator Array and the Lost Empire from Ash Arms, both of those are p fun to fight too. The cool thing about the modded custom crisis to me is just seeing how crazy they are and having to go even crazier in your grind to fight them off, sadly, a lot of them need to be MANUALLY triggered by the player rather than pressured to prepare for. Even the gigas crisis have to be SET in order to actually be fought unless you leave them to their defaults which simulate the best natural chances of just either running into them or being pressured. Gigas honestly does the best in this regard since they can naturally occur rather than waiting for you to complete a digsite. But I can't really blame the mod makers for these things b/c they worked with what was available to them to the best of their ability in order to make sure it did not destroy any vanilla aspects or crisis of the game, but rather leave it to the player's choosing when and how to fight them, so all props to them for those options. I love mods so much!

I normally play heavily modded but I did a vanilla playthrough a while back, set the crisis to 25X, the Unbidden spawned and I got totally destroyed. Used the console to spawn the swarm and contingency and set myself to observe mode and just let it play out. Left it overnight and the swarm won, the 3 unbidden factions destroyed and the contingency down to 4 systems (I dont think the swarm understood how to destroy their worlds). So in terms of actual gameplay swarm wins, which makes sense as they spawn more and more fleets as they grow, and the other two have kinda derpy AI. In terms of lore I would agree contingency, but they have never preformed to that level in game for me.

Are you sure about the unbidden not being some form of psionic? They do have psi-jump drives Edit: they apparently also have psi-shields

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

They do yes, but i don't think that's always been the case; what I was getting at was more the fact they don't come from the Shroud and do not feel obligated to chat to other psionics (like the scourge do for example)

@alexkatc59

6 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing Psyker is a being from Materium with a link with Shroud. Unbiddens are beings from Other side. Obviously they are not psykers. Demons are not psykers.

@Alexander59059

6 ай бұрын

It is entirely possible that was just done for simplicity

@Rith9789

6 ай бұрын

It also could just be lack of programming a specific shield for them. But who really knows.

@aalbanian

6 ай бұрын

It's most likely because Psi Shields are some of the most powerful shields, and for the Psi jump drive, it's probably due to its increased range. It wouldn't make sense to disregard the Unbidden's own response, as they appear to have some knowledge of the shroud.

Good video! ... However, you kinda did forget to properly mention/showcase that rare instance where the Cybrex actually reappear to challenge the Contingency.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

I've got you - kzread.info/dash/bejne/gG2FrsNypd23hco.html

I love the crisis factions they make stellaris one of my favourite games honestly, I have to go for Contingency, coolest lore and most interactive with its events and how it interacts with empires. You continue to make some of my favourite videos.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Ryan!!

The contingency once got the better of me because they spawned in one of my 2 dedicated shipyard system(playing a tall empire) whilst half of my fleet was refitting there. instantly lost half my navy and mean of replacing said navy.

I don't think the words "feeding ground reached" is any evidence that the unbidden were in the galaxy before. It could be referring to a dimension with lifeforms they feed off of, and with the upcoming astral rifts it is further evidence to that. It could also mean that it is this dimension that is the feeding ground but not specifically this galaxy. it could be that they fed off of other galaxies before the current one.

@TheMantisLord50

6 ай бұрын

Aren’t the unbidden the canonical reason why all the tech in custodian matrix fallen empire is broken

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Could be! :)

@Cevonis

6 ай бұрын

@@TheMantisLord50 the custodian matrix directly say they fought the contingency before. They awaken only during the contingency crisis and if they don't go rogue you can talk to them and they say that last time they barely managed to win. I don't think it makes sense to connect them with other crisis.

I wonder if the new guys coming on Astral Planes may turn to be a contender...

really the unbidden are the only one you don't decisively defeat if you beat them. the Prethoryn and Contingency are presumably wiped out, meanwhile the Unbidden are just kicked out of the galaxy and could just come back at presumably any time

@Jack-he8jv

6 ай бұрын

still the weakest even lore wise, for the prythorean there would be the existence of hunters and for the contingency, you defeat only the local galaxy forces, there would most likely be far stronger regional or central force, or just combining the forces from multiple galaxies.

@sebastiannavarro9686

6 ай бұрын

​@@Jack-he8jvAnd the Prythorean (at less with the information of the video) their name means survivors but they are only one hivemind(or a single individual), I have the personal theory that exist multiple fleets of them through the universe to increase the chances of survival, and when they eat successfully a galaxy they divide again before leaving the galaxy (like a rabbit and a wolf, the wolf could kill 10 rabbits, but the rabbits multiply faster than they are eaten) And the Contingency is in a battle with the Cybrex to see who is better at genociding

The Contingency opening broadcast says something that will always give me chills. **

Here is the ultimate Crisis scenario With a bit of Gigastructural Engineering thrown in. The Year is 2395 (five years before the late game). And a massive increase in Aeternum activity was detected. Expected time for full awakening: 3 Years. About Six months later. The ghost Signal appears and Synthetics start to act up. Six months after that, We detect an unknown fleet approaching the galaxy from the outer rim. About six months after that. A massive power surge is detected and Oh Boy here come the Umbiden. Three months after that, the first wave of the coming storm of the scourge arrives on our galaxy. The Next month the Synths reactivate the Contingency. One month after that the first Sterilization Hub Activates. About another month after that. Another power spike and The Aborant arrive. One month after that the second Sterilization Hub Activates. The next month. The Main Wave of the Scourge Arrives on our Galaxy. The month after that the Third Sterilization Hub Activates. The next month. The Vehement arrive with a third massive energy spike. One month later The fourth and final Sterilization Hub Activates. Finaly the next month. The Aeternum Awaken fully and go on to try and conquer the Galaxy. As for why the Aeternum Got off their asses with such urgency. Well an unknown object passing through our local galaxy group has made a physics defying turn and is coming in the direction of our galaxy. Also that didn't escape the notice of the inhabitants of a Cluster of Black Holes within the vicinity of our galaxy. And they may want to join the fray within the next few years.

@iguanaking1361

6 ай бұрын

What mod add's that last part about a cluster of black holes?

@vi6ddarkking

6 ай бұрын

@@iguanaking1361 Gigastructural Engineering. I was refering to the Compound.

@lostbutfreesoul

6 ай бұрын

Hey when you set it to all it really should mean ALL.

@iguanaking1361

6 ай бұрын

@@vi6ddarkking thx bruv

@annoymousbruh582

6 ай бұрын

@@vi6ddarkking I thought the last bit was about the Grey Tempest.

I hope we get a formless species DLC that came to the real space to explore and expend like us, kinda like the riftborn from endless space 2

Contingency and the prevention of the class 30 singularity remind me a bit of the anti-spiral and their prevention of the spiral nemesis in Gurren lagann.

Make no mistake, Dr. we are not prey. And they will know this.

So basically the C’Tan, the Tyranids, and the Men of Iron. C’Tan sweep.

Love seeing your review of the contingency after watching your vid on the XT-Exterminators

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Its always so cool when a crisis is starting and the tension rises as the events pop up.

@TheRedKing

21 күн бұрын

Agreed!

My Lords. It is today that I bear you final well-wishes and temporary goodbye. My time has come to join my brothers in 1077th in defense of Antares, and I will not return for some months. While I will miss our discussions terribly, I look forward to the backlog of datapads I will have to pour over on my return. Take good care of yourselves and each other.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Good luck out there, be safe!

The headcannon I had always theorized was that Jump Drives were the Class-30 Singularity the Contingency were worried about, and that the Contingency were in-turn the Hunters of the Prethoryn. This was bolstered by the Extradimensionals being 5th-Dimensional Entities, meaning they exist in two more spatial dimensions than we do.

I wanna fight the scourge. With the all crisis setting I always get unbidden first and if I'm lucky, I get contingency warnings next, right as end game lag kills my motivation to continue. At medium galaxy size the end lag isn't tooo bad but my favorite part, exploration, is very short...

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

The exploration is wonderful

Give the Swarm the ability to infiltrate biologically ascended empires and the Unbidden the ability to infiltrate psionically ascended empire. It gives more strategic nuance to pursuing such ascension paths much like how the contingency forces synthetic ascended empires to reconsider their priorities.

My money has always been on a Class-30 singularity being what happens when you go down the "become the Crisis." Line and destroy yhe galaxy as ayour entire race become godlike and ascend.

I don’t even play this game but love the updates by red skeleton

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

I think it would be cool if paradox made a new crisis based of a civilization that breached the shroud (like a player can do with nemesis) and is now returning

Personal lore wise, definitely the Contingency when 3 of their 4 spawns were in my empire, effectively splitting it into 3 parts 😭 (while I was in the middle of 2 active wars mind you)

“WE ARE, PUNY FOOLS!” -xenocidel space gecko leader

The new update’s lore on these guys was insane. I hope we can learn more about the other two

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Agreed! Hope so!

It’s me.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

That was fast! I should give out badges for first comments

@TheContingency25x

6 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKingI’m always here for your vids king. After-all, why would I want to miss the brilliant story-telling.

I love, love, love your work! 👌 Keep enjoying what you are doing, cos we get to enjoy pure gold - stay awesome! 🤙

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Jakob!!

I chuckled a bit when you were talking about how powerful the Contingency is while playing a clip of them getting demolished by the Scourge

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

When the video doesn't line up ... ahaha! I do stand by what I said though, but the Scourge once it gets rolling is v. strong

The real endgame crisis is the lag

I agree that the Contingency is the strongest at start since the machine worlds can pop up anywhere, are spread apart and are tough to destroy. The occasional espionage event also helps their rating as does their lack of obvious weaknesses. The one thing I'll give the others is that if you don't deal with them early, they get progressively more dangerous possibly to the point you can't manage them. I think the Scourge has the highest ceiling due to the lack of a serious counter balance to their advance while the Unbidden get countered by the Vehement and the Aberrant which usually keeps them from getting too dangerous.

maybe the contingency *was* the singularity. And in its own twisted way thinks it can save the universe by preventing others like itself from being created which would lead to a war which ends the universe

I never played Stellaris, and dont really watch any videos about it either. But I do know the game and have some idea on how its played. Therofore when this video appeared in my feed I was a bit surprised, but out of curiosity decided to check it out. And I have to say it was quite enjoyable hearing about the end game crises. You narration was well done and the descriptions and explanation were easy to grasp even for someone uninitiated like myself. Keep up the good work and may your end game crises never come to pass!

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Happy to hear it!! Thank you :)

"I believe the contingency is the most dangerous of them all" As the screen shows us the scourge just devouring the whole galaxy.

@TheRedKing

4 ай бұрын

The joys of pre-recording; but I do believe the fact remains. The Scourge are very strong once they getting going however

Unbidden & Contingency: "I'm Dirty Dan!" Prethoryn Scourge: *(Screeches in Absolute Terror)* Unbidden & Contingency: "Screaming will get you no-" *(Half of their territories get annihilated)* Aeternum, Blokkats, & Stellarborne arrive to the galaxy: *(Growls heavily)* "Which one of you fellers is the real Dirty Dan?!"

@TheCorrodedMan

6 ай бұрын

Unbidden & Contingency: uhhh, I a- *(Annihilated by a black hole thrown at fifty times the speed of light)*

@thorshammer7883

6 ай бұрын

@@TheCorrodedMan Blokkats turn their heads towards the Prethoryn Scourge. *"Okay Pinhead Larry now you get yours!"*

@TheCorrodedMan

6 ай бұрын

@@thorshammer7883 *(Frightened Insectoid screeching)*

@thorshammer7883

6 ай бұрын

​@@TheCorrodedMan Blokkats: *"PINNHEEEEEAD!"*

@coolchrisable

6 ай бұрын

@@thorshammer7883 * Prethoryn Scourge running *

Just wanted you to know. I enjoyed this video a lot. Great story telling!!

@TheRedKing

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 😊

I agree with your take on the Eternal Throne. I feel like all unbidden factions are of equal strength. The unbidden themselves may have been slightly weaker compared to the vehement and aberrant. Maybe the endgame crisis invasion gives them all a chance to get a one up on the other in order to take this “throne”.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

It got explained a little more in the recent DLC, see the video about the Formless

Maybe the Astral Rifts DLC expands on the Unbidden. A new crisis would be refreshing but I’m not getting my hopes up.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

We shall see

@Prxypad

Ай бұрын

Good news, new crisis is comming with the Machine Age DLC

Honestly I feel like the Scourge should have their own Ghost signal but for organics. Like, imagine them infecting your pops and spawning rebel fleets in your space, or maybe even creating genestealer cult empires that weaken you before the fleet's main approach. I don't know how it would work game design wise, but the Crisis are just really boring to me and I want to see them do more to my economy than my borders.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

That would be really cool!!

apart from ship battles the scourge is the most annoying as you have to bomb their world into 100% destruction

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Agree with this, they take alot of planets.....

To me, The Contingency has always been the hardest to deal with. I play triple crisis, so I always face all 3 eventually. The Unbidden I can stomp almost instantly because of the single spawn point while I can isolate the Scourge and eventually kill the moff. The Contingency on the other hand tends to spawn in the weaker empires and overwhelm them which causes me to have to bail them out.

your voice and way of talking is very peace giving and calming

@TheRedKing

4 ай бұрын

Thanks very much!!

The Swarm attacking my machine worlds. [DEFIANT STATEMENT]: There is nothing you can do to me! Do... your worst. The Swarm: JASKA!! Revolting...

I remember getting to the Crisis for the first time and it was the -Tyranids- Prethoryn Scourge. I'd gotten lucky with a choke-point that was a pulsar system. Lucky for me, because while that doesn't normally give an advantage against them, it does teach the player to built fleets that specifically deal with unshielded targets. The defence fleet of lasers and plasma cannons really held them off well. Taught me a lot about anti-player bias. They barely even looked at the other empires, just uselessly threw themselves against my defences pretty much non-stop until I had built up an armada to clean up the systems they'd already taken. Which I then claimed, so y'know, win in the long run.

@Guardian-of-Light137

3 ай бұрын

The first time I got them I was at the bottom of the galaxy. Behind my empires home system was a single line with like 3 systems no way in or out except through my empire. I hadn't bothered to claim them for whatever reason. They spawned at the end of it and started making their way for my capital. Unfortunately for them their pathetic scouting fleets were wiped out before the main force could arrive. It was the most underwhelming crisis I ever faced in stellaris. And yet the most memorable.

the 4th theory on class 30 singularity makes the most sense, that it has to do with the completion of the game, and they pop up to stop you doing that. there are a few other times the 4th wall is broken that would put this in perfect context.

That Scourge Log Felt Like Something A Guardsmen Fighting Tyranids With Astartes Would Make. Tbh The Scourge Is Literally The Tyranids Minus The Hunters Let's Be Real

I d8sagree about the contingency being the strongest crisis. The random spawn, potentially miles away, could be a problem, if you have a large galaxy. If you have a small, or tiny, galaxy, it makes scourge a greater threat. I also usually play hivemind. So robot related stuff doesnt effect me very often.

@deathtrooper7760

3 ай бұрын

I agree the contingency isn't the strongest one. They are just there to bite the players in there butt wich take the more easy path with synthetics and robots or who still follow the old delusion of refitting there whole fleet to be the perfect hard counter against 1 enemy, when the AI only take armor or shields and 1 kind of weapon. In huge galaxy's the scourge is most thriving in my experience from my last 5 1/2 campaigns. 3 of them before astral planes. As they find more than enough planets to harvest biomass from, before I could raise my banners and send all my fleets to the other side of the galaxy. As fallen empires get there shit beaten out of them and the awaken ones have short tearm victorys until there resource stockpiles are empty and they are unable to mass reinforce there losses. The contingency on huge galaxy's doesn't really have a proper cohesion between there fleets as there hubs a further apart and they often fail to link up there forces efficiently. Divide et impera. The scourge fleets stay together and have often reinforcement close by. So they either prolong the battles or are attacking your damaged fleets. Ramp up the crisis strength 25x and you can still have proper warfare with the contingency with acceptable losses. While the scourge ripp appart your fleets. PD on a good day maby get

I agree completely. I always turn it up to 25x but I'll have millions of fleet power by the time they come but the last time I faced them they spawned two critical places in my empire and I couldn't stop them. The contengency is hardest because they pop up wherever they want to

Ever since I went shopping for shoes with a woman, any decision making has become a struggle, turning every shopping moment into a crisis.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Ha! Interaction with other people, the true life crisis

Going with contingency as I had to trick a fallen empire to destroy them my first playthrough. No other gave me that much trouble since.

I've ran through your entire channel, and wondered if you had any videos on the Khan? A stellaris war vid showing a fight against the Khan or maybe from their perspective would be great. Currently just fought the khan off after while simultaneously defending from another fanatic purifier (as I am), just after fighting off two different wars on admiral difficulty. By the time I pushed the Khan back, after losing well over 100 pops. Just as it ends, the fanatic purifiers are coming back for me to siege the tomb worlds they created from bombing my worlds.. and we're not even year 2300 yet lol.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

I do not, and no immediate plans, but maybe i'll add it to the list

Creepy Protoss, Not-Tyranids, and the CORE (or perhaps the Mass Effect baddies?)? A divided enemy is often weaker than a united one, so the Unbidden seeming less of a concern makes sense. The Scourge are one trick ponies, after a fashion, but united and will eat everything organic. But yeah, genocidal AI with a balanced approach to warfare that makes adapting to them specifically more difficult than the others? Makes sense that they'd be hardest to beat. The Scourge, though, might represent the greatest overall threat if they just keep coming, and if whatever is chasing them happens to be hostile to anyone else as well. Honestly, sounds like the Scourge and Unbidden could fight each other forever, with the Scourge being an all you can eat and more buffet for the Unbidden. Both see organics (and maybe non-organics) as food, and the Scourge should be able to feed the Unbidden, though perhaps the Unbidden cannot feed the Scourge (who have the numbers for that to perhaps not matter). Ironically, the Scourge and the Contingency may have no conflict with each other as, depending on what this Singularity actually is, the Scourge is also doing the Contingency's work for them. But if that Singularity is something the Scourge could achieve, the Contingency might even be their Hunters, for all we know. Fascinating stuff.

You forgot about the End of the Cycle brought about from the super rare Shroud event.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

It's not really a crisis, and is also insanely weak for what it's supposed to represent

Great video!

@TheRedKing

18 күн бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!!

The strongest crises is…ME (by becoming the crisis) 😂 The level 30 singularity…

My Lore run I did have my ancient Rogue Servitors "Succumb" to the contingecy Kinda fun for roleplaying wise

The player of course. For they can destroy any threat if they wanted.

No matter what prep I make, the contingency always has a scaled fleet power to hold well. The other two I can slap down fast. But by the 3rd contingency system, in out of fleets and my stockpile.

Ive wanted to see this for the longest!

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

I hope it was worth the wait James!

"the contingency is the most dangerous of the three crisis we've discussed" Meanwhile the background showing the entire galaxy being eaten by the scourge.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

No comment :)

In the one game I played to completion I got the Unbidden. They were unfortunate enough to spawn next to my territory, right by one of my highly fortified choke point systems, after I'd just gotten done panic-building an army to fight a neighbor who delcared war on me. funny enough, the neighbor never actually attacked me, just declared war and scared me into devoting all my resources into fleet building for a bit. I managed to get a fleet twice as large as the next leading civilization. The Unbidden never stood a chance. They spawned in, attacked my choke point, and my fleet stomped them. Was a litte confused because I was under the impression I was screwed when they spawned so close to me. But then the whole thing was over before it really got started. I didn't even send in my whole defense fleet! just the ones that were in that area. It was around here that I started to wonder if I'd built up my fleet too much. But that fleet won me the galactic emporer seat and eventually the game so...

Prethoryns clearly. Mainly because i’m absolutely biased and they’re my favourite crisis of the three.

So the contingency and the 3rd theory is the concept of pi. It is forever calculating so as to not arrive at a finished answer and have it be destroyed as it no longer serves any perpous...

I believe the class-30 singularity is what happens if a psionic empire that ascends to the Shroud and uses their power excessively. The Zroni were growing the black hole in the centre of the galaxy by using their psionics a lot, I think the class-30 singularity is the result of going even further than that. The class-30 singularity is the universe collapsing into a single point as a result of psionic usage, and that by the time the contingency arrives we are around the level where we are able to ascend ourselves to shroud. Basically, the robots are trying to stop people from ascending to the Shroud and using their powers to turn the universe into a supergiganormous blackhole."

I mean...you SAY the contingency is the most dangerous, but I'm staring at a map completely devoured by scourge.

@TheRedKing

6 ай бұрын

Very true! I should have run it more than once, but I think the points I made still stand about why I believe they're the hardest