As a friendly reminder, light takes time to travel, so the fact that only a few decades after the Scourge arrive in galaxy, their galaxy darkens, means that happened centuries, if not eons ago, and the Hunters are most likely already on their way to the galaxy.

It's us. The player is, and always was, the most dangerous thing in Stellaris. Even in old versions before "become the crisis" was a thing, players have always been a predator to galaxies. What was will be. 1 of the Precursors believed that everything was a simulation and tried to escape. We as players know this to be true, a simulation caused by us. We seed civilizations and play with galaxies until we are bored, then erase them. Even if we are benevolent, eventually we stop playing, and that galaxy is no more. And why do we do it? For the love of the game, for the hunt. We are the hunters in the void.

@GabrielHorne

5 ай бұрын

Yes

@strugz10

4 ай бұрын

This was poetic

@galomir833

4 ай бұрын

i would not say of the void but more like multivers hunter :)

@eminentfire8464

3 ай бұрын

That is existentially terrifying and I love it.

@pieterfaes6263

3 ай бұрын

Ok. This could make for a creative and dark mod idea. A chance to spawn in an empire with a hidden "player empire"-flag. If the empire dies, the game ends and goes dark. You could add some event chains to make things appear like how a player would appear to an AI-empire, or hint that said empire might hold said tag. Or a possible Vultaum-like realisation event chain. Because if we want existential horror in our eldritch space horror game, why not take away control from the player?

I had an astral rift event where you meet the tutorial robot and he has voice lines where he says not to trust black holes and to fear the hunters.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Interesting! I've not had that one yet, do you know what it's called?

@cameroncox3068

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing I believe it's called the advisor.

@VoodooSon

5 ай бұрын

The advisor rift made me think of the possibility that the hunters could use black holes as a gateway to anywhere assuming ships and monsters have been observed to travel in and out of them in game, there is no better way to invade a galaxy. That also might suggest they are not a standard civilization anymore if they ever were if they can walk freely through a force that can bend reality how could the prethoryn had done anything but run.

@cameroncox3068

5 ай бұрын

@@VoodooSon that's interesting I just assumed the comment on the black hole was just about the worm since it's the only time I know in the game when a black hole talks to you.

@VoodooSon

5 ай бұрын

​​@cameroncox3068 Consider this, The Hunters >If the suggestions about them are a guideline< Can Wipeout Galaxies in a manner that would make the blokkats blush and are mysterious to the point of mere conjecture and as the rifts are glimpses into alternate dimensions prove they exist in more then just our own. They strike me as Type V Civilization. They don't need an empire, energy, or anything material. Take it like the short story "The Most Dangerous Game." AS the Scourge say "They will scour all creation". Take that literally. The Hunters do it for sport.

Gigastructures has an obsession with cats that borders on the uncomfortable. I hope the canon Hunters are something more creative.

Only two things with the Blokkat theory: 1. They’re unfortunately not canon, and if I remember correctly were designed by the mod team to _be_ the hunters. 2. They don’t eat a galaxy all at once. Thus, either the fully grown void spawn is *massive* and can block light from a whole galaxy (possible, but unlikely considering the size of the eggs and the fact that the void spawn carefully lays them near stars); the Crisis empire is ravenously bloodthirsty enough to hunt the Prethoryn at least a fair distance into intergalactic space (which would mean either leaving some behind during the “ascension” or postponing it until the hunter fleet and its undoubtedly massive supply line returned); or there’s something else out there…

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Something else wonderfully large and powerful ready to eat us :)

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

The big voidspawn thing is kinda dumb IMO. I know that Stellaris devs don't know or care much about physics, but this one is especialy stupid. The astronomers see the galaxy dispapeering at once, if it was a big voidspawn approaching, the fading of this galaxy would have been progressive, not instant. And a creature that big would have a massive gravity field too, it would create a gravitational lense that would make the galaxy behind still visible. And lastly, a gigantic voidspawn like this would generate heat by the simple fact that it live, and so, would glow in infrared and be visible for astronomers.

@Hypercube2017

5 ай бұрын

@@jhtrq1465 I hadn’t thought about the gravitational factor, but that does make sense, and unless it came from behind and closed its mouth at near-light speed the galaxy would’ve been obscured at a slower pace. Therefore, it must be a new cosmic horror beyond our comprehension.

@Hypercube2017

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing Ah Stellaris, the game where there is *_always_* a bigger fish.

@PotatoPrem

3 ай бұрын

@@jhtrq1465 why would the voidspawn generate heat by being alive? They're clearly not normal life and can breathe in space. And their texture is close enough to a blackbody where at large distances they would absorb a high percent of light falling on them and look invisible

Duped theory 2.0. the psionic empire routed the Scourge by causing fear within the Scourge, the Hunters is just an illusion caused by psionic attack or the psionic empire summoned powerful beings of the Shroud to chase off the Scourge, the Scourge calls it the Hunters, either way such abuse of psionic power triggers an uncontroled expansion of the center super massive blackhole consuming the entire galaxy(what the Zroni almost did to our galaxy)

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Yes! Ha I like it

If you have both Scourge and Blokkats crisis in your galaxy, then Prethoryn will say that Blokkats are Hunters what they mentioned.

@purpledevilr7463

5 ай бұрын

Tis a mod though.

@ultrastrategyman4805

5 ай бұрын

@@purpledevilr7463 I know, but it's Red who mention them in video

@blademaster2390

5 ай бұрын

You can also ask the Blokkats themselves if they are the “Hunters”, and they will confirm it. This also implies that the Blokkats are fully aware of how other sentient species see them, and that they likely dont give a flip.

@shloopydoopersontheloreguy9069

5 ай бұрын

They also flee the Galaxy en mass. Abandoning territory and going to a specific Star system before fleeing altogether.

@ultrastrategyman4805

5 ай бұрын

@@shloopydoopersontheloreguy9069 Yeah, I was surprised when they flew from the galaxy

I really hope in the future the Stellaris team will update more on the Ultima Vigilis faction.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

SAME! Please please expand, it's a very confusing system

@dejannincic9671

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing I have never had a crisis spawn after take Ultima Vigilis so is it a % chance?

@hirocheeto7795

5 ай бұрын

@@dejannincic9671 There's apparently an event involved with 5 options. Selecting any of them besides option 2 has a 50% chance of allowing the Unbidden to spawn early. If that 50% chance occurs, then every 5 years there is an 80% chance of the Unbidden actually spawning. So it is up to chance, but it's weighted pretty heavily in favor of an early crisis.

They are me. Trust.

@T_NONAME

5 ай бұрын

We don‘t trust some machine that don‘t even work correct

@art-games6230

5 ай бұрын

Murderbots aren’t exactly trustworthy are they?

@user-uo3iv9dd9e

5 ай бұрын

They are you. Trust.

@T_NONAME

5 ай бұрын

@@art-games6230 No they aren‘t

@art-games6230

5 ай бұрын

@@T_NONAME agreed

Personally I'd like the Hunters to be more of a 'natural force' than just another empire like the Unbidden, Prethoryn or Contingency. Same with some of the others on this list, like the Blokkats or the Crisis, even the Ultima Vigilis empire. Those have kind of been done now; the 'malicious others'. But a crisis that has to be dealt with and just 'is', rather than a mustache-twirling villain, could be very interesting thematically. That's why I'd be in favour of it being something like an elder Voidborn; it's not evil, it's just doing what its nature dictates. The predator bears no ill-will towards its prey, it's doing what it does to survive, but if you're wily prey, you might be able to dissuade or even beat it. That said, I do really like the idea of a psionic empire tricking the Prethoryns. That would make a great story to uncover. I also had the thought that you could explain any non-empire 'hunters' away as a misunderstanding of the Prethoryns thoughts and their entirely alien way of thinking; it translates to our galaxy as 'hunters', implying a group or thing, but perhaps that's just the closest our minds can get to what they really mean. Their origin galaxy going dark could also be simply a case of the thing that's chasing them now being in a position to block the light from that galaxy, like an eclipse.

@amultitudeofpeppers938

4 ай бұрын

I personally think it's a strange matter particle "infecting" all other matter, causing it to respect entirely different laws of physics. It's a lot different and truly, really, is unescapable. Or maybe a black hole expanding.

I really like the idea of the Prethoryn invading the galaxy and then suddenly leaving after 50 years or so. And once you think everything is fine, the Hunters arrive and you're even more screwed than before. Also the Blokkats definitely don't count becasue they are part of a mod, and it being just another crisis-seeking civilization is unlikely because they ascend to the shorud and exit the main dimesion. I think it has got to be some sort of other entity that we don't have any idea of as of yet.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

This would be pretty cool

Since the Blokkats actually mention the destruction of an intergalactic Hivemind, I guess within the gigastructures Lore the Blokkats are definitely the hunters. That is further confirmed by the destription of the Mod: "The Blokkats, ravenous galaxy harvesters intended to fill the role of vanilla's mysterious Hunters." Great video though!

@art-games6230

5 ай бұрын

I agree, but gigastructures lore is different from vanilla, the developers of gigastructures have themselves said that if the main game changes this then they will too

@ferrox8421

5 ай бұрын

Furthermore, if the Prethoryn are currently in your galaxy when the blokkats arrive they will send a message that "the hunters are here, we will flee this galaxy" and actively run away and leave the galaxy

@Elowiny

5 ай бұрын

​@@art-games6230 I remember a Paradox dev saying in a Q&A that they'd rather keep the Hunters mysterious (I think that in a purely vanilla context it is cooler to keep them mysterious, you probably couldn't fight them anyways), so it seems unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. We never know though!

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

I prefer your Blokkats, Elo ;)

Always liked the idea that the Hunters are just the player empire of another galaxy that beat them back and swore to hunt them down to extinction as a dialogue option. The galaxy darkening could be them becoming a full on crisis empire or just them ending that campaign and so the galaxy was "darkened" as a result.

one problem i have with the blokat theory is that if im correct they said you could leave the galaxy and they would not chase

@ultrastrategyman4805

5 ай бұрын

Blokkats it's not just one fleet what we fight in mod, it's intergalactic civilization, so Scourge can escape to another galaxy where another Vester is present, and they would think that they being chased.

@Elowiny

5 ай бұрын

Blokkat author here. The Scourge might have initially fought back, which would have prompted the Blokkats to actually hunt them to some extent since they'd have been deemed dangerous to Blokkat operations. The player, which (at first) can't really fight back, is free to leave since they're deemed a non-threat. By the time you face the Blokkats ingame, the Scourge has likely been weakened sufficiently for the Blokkats to not be actively hunting them anymore, but the Blokkats are still expanding and harvesting rapidly enough for the Scourge to continue feeling like they're being "hunted".

@stormlordeternal7663

5 ай бұрын

@@Elowinywait so you’re saying that the Scourge at one point was powerful enough to be considered a threat to the Blokkats? That is a scary implication. Also I love how you use uncertain speech as if you’re not literally the guy who writes the lore.

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

Blokkats aren't chasing the Prethoryns, they are here to harvest everything they come across. It's the Prethoryns that feel chased by them

@kalebbradford143

5 ай бұрын

Okay but thats like moving out of the way of a bullet thats hunting you down. You can move to another galaxy, maybe even one far far away, but the blokkats would still eventually reach you.

Crack theory: the Prethorian are a rebel mind from a far stronger hive. This hive would have similar capabilities, as the scourge came from them. However, they would have far more resources. Doesn't explain the darkened galaxy, though.

@psyco829

3 ай бұрын

Honestly I like this, it would also explain why they renamed themselves, because their original species name could be their word for Hunters.

Addition to the voidspawn theory: if voidspawn, or adult ones, aren't bioluminescent then the darkening of the Prethoryn galaxy could be a voidspawn, or swarm, blocking the light by moving in between it on their way to the Stellaris galaxy.

@sphere117gaming

5 ай бұрын

Well actually it’s already been mentioned in lore that their the pet dog’s basically of “The Hunter”s as they are also referred to who are basically a empire that harvests shroud energy and other energy or whatever. Forgot some of the specifics since it’s a extremely rare event whatever. But anyways the hunters basically put a engine in each galaxy and activates it. Then harvests the energy afterwards towards a universal sized engine. That’s basically supposed to make them transcend the universe(black hole(actually mentioned as canon))(virtual simulator?) Black holes are basically the recycling bin of the universe and also the origin of the universe/galaxies in the first place. (Lore stuff for the infinity orb or whatever) Which reminds me one of the black holes in the game is also the spawn origin/remnants of the Big Bang(where the universal black hole imploded and restarted the cycle) forgotten if it’s the end or the maw or the rupture. Whichever one, basically your not supposed to get close to it or it can cause some serious(universe ending) problems. Not implemented in game mechanics though. There’s actually a lot of lore I’ve found in game and seen the connections with that it seems these KZreadrs haven’t discovered lol. Well a fair few have, but many more that hasn’t.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

"pet dogs of the hunters" where is this mentioned? It sounds like you're refering to a crisis empire

@sphere117gaming

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing basically when it says the threat level that’s what it’s referring to a analogy. It doesn’t say it explicitly but it’s about the literature devices they use, and the allusions and stuff. Basically “Hunters” hunt for something and the clue is in the galaxies being extinguished. It’s also mentioned in swarm bit and also more is mentioned or alluded to in the voidspawn or dimensional horror(what the void spawn is based off of) details about how they have ravenous hunger. And about the swarm that mentions the hunters in the first place, with “galaxies” being extinguished it only means one thing. Which is all stars turned to black holes. Only thing that has that effect after all. And the way that is done as known in the game is through the engine. So basically the lore is telling us the hunters are a civ that builds the engines in many galaxies. And we also know the nature of the engine is to “ascend” so if their doing it over and over it means they’re trying to to it on a universal level which only means their either trying to stop and fix the eventual collapse of the universe(due to the sentient limit which is what the Contingency is for, meant to prolong the existence of the current universe as Long as possible) Or alternatively it means that their trying to escape the universe itself and go outside world(if the universe is a virtual reality) And also what do hunters use? They use dogs or some other animal?.. Don’t know of any others anyways besides dogs. But anyways it means they possibly have a hunting dog(analogy) and as mentioned in the voidspawn about them also “hunting” for something. Since it doesn’t say other specifics it can be found that as the spawn is a just a young one and hasn’t been trained hence the order not knowing more. As the Order isn’t a intergalactic one. Just across the galaxy itself not beyond. More details is actually referenced in some of the precursor digs. Forgot what. Never thought to catalogue all this stuff. Just events and stuff I briefly remember. It’s just the lore actually kinda takes a person studying it like how we have to study Shakespeare or whatever in Gr. 12 for example. Have to figure out the authors meaning and stuff. And when it comes to Stellaris all the stuff is there it’s just extremely complicated and convoluted in some senses. Having ADHD I guess helps with that lmao as I guess as a result making unique, convoluted or complicated connections between things is sorta easy. One of the types I guess.

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

A creature big enough to block the light of an entiere galaxy at astronomical distances would still generate enough gravity to create a lensing effect that would make the galaxy behind still visible.

in a stellaris game i was able to build 4 megastructures in 4.5 years, without the games limitations we honestly could have "darkened the galaxy" so to speak as we were robots led under the neo goddesses guidance.

When I turned off the sentry array in Ultima Vigilis I got the Contingency. Considering that the Contingency has errors and appears to be hacked I thought that was the explanation but if you got the unbidden then it's likely that turning off the sentry array triggers a random crisis and not a specific one.

@ferrox8421

5 ай бұрын

Ultima Vigilus increases the likelihood of the unbidden to spawn. Other end game crisis can still spawn instead though

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

It's in the code that it makes the Unbidden 50% more likely to spawn within the next 50 years iirc; other crisis can still spawn during that time

@Cevonis

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing oh, didn't know that. I had already defeated the unbidden in that run since they usually spawn first for me.

Dear red king, exellent presentation on your historical findings. This is why you are humanity's greatest mind on the subject of galactic history. I have word form the council of humanity that they are greatly pleased with your work. Glory to mankind

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Thanks very much!

Everybody gangsta till they hear "SURVEYING IMMEDIATE SURROUNDINGS..." broadcasted all over the galaxy.

It only takes 1 sufficiently powerful Stellaris empire about 30 years to build a dyson sphere and completely blot out a star. IF the hunters are an even more powerful than that, it is perfectly reasonable that their entire galaxy has been enclosed in dyson spheres

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

It dosen't explain why all the starts turn dark at the same time, a civilization who build dyson spheres will do it in a progressive way, and the dyson spheres would still glow in infrared light, because of the shell of the sphere heating up, that I'm sure your scientists are clever enough to look for. The whole darkening of the galaxy looks more like all the directly collapsing into black hole, leaving no electromagnetic radiations to be seen.

I believe that you underestimated the chance of the unbidden, first of all, the unbidden have nearly unlimited ships (known from an archeological site) second of all, since the scourge were most likely not the only empire in the scourges galaxy. It’s not unreasonable to assume that they would develop jump drives, or even the scourge themselves could have developed jump drives, realized that that’s what creates the tracker for the unbidden and removed them from their ships.

In regards to End of the Cycle might be discounted by the concept of, "Going dark," too much. This could have meant that the Prethoryn Scourge have lost their hive connections, making things, "Dark." But it would have to happen about all at once though.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

The stars go out, you see it as the player

At the center of a galaxy is a supermassive black hole. Imagine the entities that could come through one that big considering the things that seem to get stuck in the more normal sized ones. there is always room for more cosmic horrors to join the party.

The Prethoryn are demons who have encountered the Winchesters.

Silly! Everyone knows that The Hunters are the GTU forces cleansing yet another intergalactic threat to GTU expansion and colonization efforts!

The real hunters are whatever Paradox decides to charge 30 dollars for next expansion!

I hope we never find out what is hunting them. That this immensely powerful devouring swarm is running from something even more powerful makes you imagine what this threat could look like. It’s just a neat bit of cosmic horror.

You just made my day even better just by uploading

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Happy to hear it :)

arn't the blokkats a mod so i feel as tho they shouldn't be included.

Good sir, Your presentation is exceptional as expected. I would like to cite the presentation you recommended and that therein, you note the extended time scale it would take for the Blokkats to consume a galaxy. I do agree that they have the capacity to wipe out galaxies, but do they have the coordination to make one disappear overnight? I suppose only time will give us such an answer.

After reading about the Xeelee Sequence books, the description of the Hunters sounds very similar to the Photino Birds, extremely powerful dark matter entities who are halting fusion in all the stars to make the universe more habitable to them and will cause universal heat death in mere millions of years.

lmao the scourge destroying their own galaxy for the memes is now my favourite stellaris theory, as silly as it is

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

:) it's a good one huh

@zalophuscalifornianus5457

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing If you were a galactic spanning hive mind, you might just get bored enough to do it lol

Prob a fourth wall break they go through infinite cycles of getting wiped by player empires and moving galaxies aka computers to ours

We only see the Unbidden and the other factions as a broken civil war remnant force. A fully powered and united Unbidded race would be much stronger, and likely they would have the power to break through the barrier without the need for the other side to weaken it first.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Maybe!

The blokats get a 1/10 because Paradox don't own the I.P. and therefore cannot use them in any future DLC without licensing the rights. I find the possibility of such a license extremely low but not zero, so 1/10 rather than 0/10.

Dude you always make me so hyped to play stellaris I stg🤣🤣🤣

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Happy to hear it

8:30 you forgot that the worm we see isn't really complete and is half trapped in a portal, and i think the curators say it would have destroyed the galaxy if it wasn't.

They will see, that we are the hunters

could the hunters be the good guys trying to erradicate the prethoryn scourge to safegaurd other life forms

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Could be the Jedi Order for all we know :)

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

If they are able and willing to extinguish entiere galaxies to eliminate the pest, I think they are even more of a treath that the Scourge itself.

I mean, in game we can use stellarite devours as weapons, a death cult could use many to. . . Yk, do death cult things?

The home galaxy didn't go out "all at once". They simply checked and noticed it was gone, and it's quite possible no one checked for hundreds of years.

@TheRedKing

4 ай бұрын

This is inaccurate, the text says "either the stars of the galaxy simply went out, all at once, or there is something, something to vast as to eclipse an entire galaxy, blocking it's light from reaching us"

@DracoSafarius

2 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing That doesn't negate the notion of it not being all of it instantaneously, though. It's just implying it's fast, rather than seeing it start to slowly dwindle and fade out. Observable signal gone in like a day rather than over months.

Keep up the good vids 👍

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Fun fact If the Bokkats arrive while the Scourge are infesting the galaxy. The Scourge will panic and begin to get out of dodge as fast as they can.

Hiii red king ❤

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Hi Khaos, no minecraft videos here i'm afraid

@khaosking7

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing 🥲

I like this subject and this video, but I'm not very fond of the inclusion of mod content. I'm kind of glad that Stellaris keeps the truth of the Hunters unknown to the player, a bit of mystery is welcome. Thank you for making this video. ❤

@TheRedKing

4 ай бұрын

Ah I can say with certainity if I didn't include them i'd have 1,000s of comments asking why not :) nevertheless, glad you enjoyed the video!

prethoryn say hunters plural, so a single humungous creature on approach blocking view of galaxy sounds unlikely. perhaps something more like a pod of whales looking to feed on prethoryn krill. every star encapsulated by dyson spheres or dyson swarms would darken a galaxy a galaxy being transported away to elsewhere in the universe or to another plane of existence would also do the trick, not darkened or consumed, merely moved but why would forces with this level of power be bothering to hunt prethoryn? perhaps simply for amusement

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

Dyson swarms/spheres still glow in infrared, because of the heat generated. I'm sure Stellaris scientists are clever enough to look trough those wavelengths ;)

There is only one true end game crisis without contest... The end game lag. no matter what, you can never truelly win lmao

We got alot of new species, especially the toxoids....whats next the Crystoids (crystal species) or Energoids (energy species).

@jeremychacon6039

3 ай бұрын

Gasoides especies de gases

I think there a group of people who became the crisis

The greatest threat of the Blockcats is setting ur pc on fire

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

They actually save your CPU from melting by deleting all those useless xenos pops.

It doesnt make sense to the blocks to be the hunters. They have no incentive for chasing down a homless species. Their goal is just to consume galacies and expand.

I'm pretty sure it's not the player. I mean, it's undeniable that the player is the single most dangerous entity surrounding Stellaris, since the fact that Stellaris is referenced as a simulation in-universe, that means we're technically part of the canon; but the Scourge wouldn't have anyway of knowing a thing about us. Also, the players don't actively hunt the Scourge. They eliminate the Scourge if and when the Scourge appears in the player's galaxy, but they don't actively pursue them.

I swear I had a game where the hunter's turned up and they were just a civilisation that got wiped out but some of them survived and they kept recruiting from galaxies that were destroyed until they became a big enough threat to actually stop them

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Sentinals?

@jamesmattila-hine1133

3 ай бұрын

@TheRedKing I don't remember a name unfortunately. It was my first game I got to the crisis and I didn't know it was anything special so I didn't take note. But I think they most of the Galaxy had been taken over by them

In the stellar devourer lore they consume stars rather slowly so i find that theory unlikely

Could you do a video on the gas people.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

mmm maybe

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

The annoying gas people... No it's just a sensor malfunction, can't be bothered to play Uberdrive for them.

Nobody seems to have asked and I didn't see anything in the description, but what mod is used for the Unbiddens apperance. 1:00

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

No mod, it's new with the DLC (and I assume patch?)

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing It's from the patch, I don't own the DLC and the Unbbiden have their skin updated

The Blokkats aren't really hunters though - they are harvesters.

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Perspective though isn't it, a mouse may see a combine harvester as a hunter, it doesn't understand that it isn't the target

10:19 biblically accurate blokkat

Im definitely the stellar devourers

Its him, he simply intervened

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

It is HIM!

@slacksviii9824

5 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing scourge: "what would you do if I showed up in your galaxy" Him: "I would simply intervene"

How would the Phanon Corps from Ancient Cache of Technologies compare to the Blokkats?

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

I'll have to make a video on Acot and find out :)

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

The Phanon presence in the galaxy is no mtach for the Blokkats, but the whole Phanon corps is a transuniversal civilization, I think they aren't really treathened by the Blokkats. It's hard to say, because the 2 belong to 2 differents lore. Giga tends to integrate some ACOT stuff into his lore (Voidbirch Aeternum, some comments made by the Blokkats about stellarite energy and runic power) but the opposite isn't true. My guess is that the Corps wouldn't feel really bothered by the Blokkats, they are just living in another plane of existence (Shroud IIRC) that isn't under treath of consumption by the Blokkats.

@thorshammer7883

5 ай бұрын

@@jhtrq1465 The Phanon Corps are another Transuniversal civilization like the Stellarborne?

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

​@@jhtrq1465 Gigas integration of ACOT stuff is all non canon "for fun" interactions, not lore accurate. neither mod has lore compatibility with each other. Phanon Corps don't live in the Shroud

Daleks

Unfortunately you've missed something that repeatedly irked me throughout the video. The darkened galaxy *was not* the scourge home galaxy. It was simply one of the galaxies they likely passed through on their route to ours. This is directly mentioned during the 'what we actually know' segment, so unfortunately any theory saying 'oh that galaxy is the origin of the hunters' is... impossible. Unfortunately.

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

It's not clear whether the darkened galaxy is their original galaxy or another they consumed. I don't remember being specific either way, hence the speculation.

me. I was feeling very hungry thay day.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

nomnomnom

Stellarite devourers have no reason to chase the scourge 0/10

Balls

Blokats aren’t cannon

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Yup!

The Hunters are what ever is on the other side of the black hole and the Worm is their herald

Hunter Bidens Laptop was chasing them the entire time.

Was the blokkats mod created before or after the scourge were added? I could only see the blokkats theory being legitimate if the blokkats came first, since the scourge mentioning hunters could simply be a nod from the devs to the widely successful gigastructural engineering mod. If the scourge came first then the blokkats theory can be trashed entirely because the devs would have no way of knowing that a future mod would add a crisis Empire that fits the description.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

After, and the blokkats were added to fit the hunter description :)

@jhtrq1465

5 ай бұрын

The Hunters are basicly a copy paste from an old 40K tyrannid book, just a line stating there were supposed to flee from something, and IIRC this has been retconed by now. No wonder Pdx as 0 explanation on their own Hunters.

Rouge Servitor When? edit: I think that it cant be the Blokkats because as you said they can travel millions of times faster than light while the scourge cannot. This would mean that if the Blokkats were the scourge they would either have caught them already (hasn't happened) or have gotten to our galaxy right after the scourge. However you could say they do have a motive because eat all energy however, if this was the case why would the Blokkats divert off their route if they were chasing a rouge scourge fleet. (I say rouge as "Locust swarms" can be found in systems in many galaxy's and so there cant be only one fleet) Surely it would be better to kill the one that quicly eats all he energy rather than us who use it slowly.

@Rick-lq3xo

5 ай бұрын

The blokkats do still take time to harvest a galaxy, the scourge would try to fight back, have all their attempts rendered useless, then decide to flee, fleeing is an option in the gigastructures mod anyway. The scourge could potentially make it in the time frame taken for blokkat harvesting.

@Anom_Anom

5 ай бұрын

@@Rick-lq3xo but here's the thing the blokkats are are incredibly intelligent and so would see that harvesting a broken galaxy is a lower priority than Hunting the scourge. So while yes they take time to enter our galaxy they are still faster than the scourge and so would easily catch up and kill them. I do see your point tho

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Somewhere else Elowiny commented regarding a similar question I think, but yeah - i mean it's not canon but it's the best we've got

@gamesandglory1648

4 ай бұрын

@@Anom_Anom Why would they care to hunt the scourge? the blokkats directly say that you can leave, they're not stopping you.

@Anom_Anom

4 ай бұрын

@@gamesandglory1648 the blokkats want energy, all of it. The scourge consumes a lot of energy very quickly. Do you see the correlation?

i honestly would take no answer at all or the blokkats be "the hunters" over any concrete answer that would be given in vanilla. but that's just my bais.

The hunters are EU4 and HOI4 players. No I will not elaborate.

@TheRedKing

5 ай бұрын

Ha! Fair enough