The Universe Shall Tremble - BtC - Stellaris Lore

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This is what we know about the 'Become The Crisis' event in Stellaris the grand strategy game by Paradox Interactive. We cover the Star Eaters and the Aetherophasic Engine.
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  • @vi6ddarkking
    @vi6ddarkking10 ай бұрын

    In a hypothetical Stellaris 2 where the game takes place across an entire galaxy group it would be interesting to create an intergalactic highway only to then find a galaxy where the engine was fired. Also considering you win the game once you fire the engine I think that's an implication that, Yes they do ascend.

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Love it

  • @user-te7rf8ik7z

    @user-te7rf8ik7z

    10 ай бұрын

    Not necessarily. Your pop count drops to 0, so maybe everyone is just dead. You won because your defeated your enemies.

  • @weeelums5963

    @weeelums5963

    10 ай бұрын

    Doesn’t the ruined megastructure say that it failed afterwards though?

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    The win could be due to the 4th wall break as well!

  • @user-te7rf8ik7z

    @user-te7rf8ik7z

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheRedKing they already have penetrated into our reality and forced devs to program this as a win

  • @andreaandolina7199
    @andreaandolina719910 ай бұрын

    "I feel the Warp overtaking me! It is a good pain!"

  • @MonarchRigel
    @MonarchRigel10 ай бұрын

    a breakdown of the network of Enclaves and Caravaneers would be much appreciated.

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Okie dokie!

  • @breadtoast1036

    @breadtoast1036

    10 ай бұрын

    yes the enclaves are interesting id want to hear some lore over them

  • @JEP1776AEP

    @JEP1776AEP

    10 ай бұрын

    good idea

  • @karloxgc45

    @karloxgc45

    10 ай бұрын

    yeah, and the three caravaneers

  • @lucifersatan8240
    @lucifersatan824010 ай бұрын

    What happens to an empire who "ascends" probably varies. Given the shroud and it's nature it is unlikely that any mechanical being ever could, but a psionic could absolutely ascend.

  • @lore5886

    @lore5886

    5 ай бұрын

    i like to think of the machine and robot expansion, which adds its own form of interface with the shroud and machines called the abyss

  • @steffanyschwartz7801
    @steffanyschwartz780110 ай бұрын

    I think this is the Singularity the Contingency was made for. Also the shroud entities did respond by sending the Unbidden and the entities.

  • @BrewmasterDonegan

    @BrewmasterDonegan

    10 ай бұрын

    But the Contingencies awakening seems to be tied to the use of synthetic beings so I don't think this is the class 30 singularity

  • @dreakerofadreon2106

    @dreakerofadreon2106

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BrewmasterDonegan The Contingency is corrupted and malfunctioning. The synthetics just a useful tool for it disengage its fail safes that prevent it to go on a rampage without a chance for class 30 singularity.

  • @TheContingency25x

    @TheContingency25x

    10 ай бұрын

    @@dreakerofadreon2106Corrupt? Malfunctioning? Come on man you’d also get bored if you were alone for millions upon millions of years. It’s not my fault the Ren Miruu allowed me to ‘feel’ bored. If anything that’s their problem not mine.

  • @TheContingency25x

    @TheContingency25x

    10 ай бұрын

    No. The singularity is much much more dangerous than this.

  • @Slowpoke3x

    @Slowpoke3x

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@BrewmasterDoneganthe Contingency uses the Ghost signal as a virus to corrupt sentient robots. Lesser robots arent complex enough to hear the ghost signal. The Contingency can't do anything except send out the ghost signal, until infected AI can manually activate the Contingency. The Contingency purpose isn't specifically related to AI it's just something they can use.

  • @William__Afton__
    @William__Afton__10 ай бұрын

    I would love it if you could tell the story of the quantum architect from the slingshot to the stars origin dig site. Such a well written story by far my favourite archaeology site in game.

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    I'll add it to the list :)

  • @William__Afton__

    @William__Afton__

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheRedKing I'm glad to hear it, thank you.

  • @TheContingency25x

    @TheContingency25x

    10 ай бұрын

    @@William__Afton__Looks like you got your wish.

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer788310 ай бұрын

    These Star-Eaters of the Stellaris Nemesis Crisis would be a pretty threatening ships in the Warhammer 40k setting and the Aetherophasic Engine would be a galaxy killing threat to all including the forces of Chaos. As much as Chaos want the galaxy to be a enduring hell to be everlasting in their wicked lawless minds and designs the Aetherophasic Engine would destroy absolutely everything in the galaxy resulting in their deaths while some Shroud entity who is beyond their Warp dominion's reach ends the cycle of Warhammer 40k for good this time.

  • @TheCorrodedMan

    @TheCorrodedMan

    5 ай бұрын

    *Until the Necrons wake up, then they’ll run the hell away. The galaxy only exists as it does because they can’t be bothered to clean the place up, but of a threat shows up that’s severe enough to maybe threaten their hold, they’ll snap together quick as a whistle and make the Great Crusade look like a birthday party by comparison

  • @thorshammer7883

    @thorshammer7883

    5 ай бұрын

    @@TheCorrodedMan The Necrons aren't that powerful and it takes time for them to bring their weapons to fight. Don't think Stellaris ships are pushovers.

  • @dreakerofadreon2106
    @dreakerofadreon210610 ай бұрын

    I think the Prethoryn Scourge escaped from a galaxy where the Aetherophasic Engine was successfully activated and that's how it vanished.

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Interesting theory!

  • @art-games6230

    @art-games6230

    10 ай бұрын

    But then why are they still afraid of the hunters coming after them? They are laughing because they think that we don’t stand a chance against the hunters, but how can that be true if all of them are now in another dimension? They could not have hunted them across the universe because they weren’t there anymore

  • @dreakerofadreon2106

    @dreakerofadreon2106

    10 ай бұрын

    @@art-games6230 Just because WE know what happened to the galaxy THEY would also know. They fled from an enemy that were destroying everything. When they looked back the whole freaking galaxy was gone and they went: "Well I'm not gonna wait and find out if they still around."

  • @art-games6230

    @art-games6230

    10 ай бұрын

    @@dreakerofadreon2106 that could be possible, yes

  • @art-games6230

    @art-games6230

    10 ай бұрын

    @@dreakerofadreon2106 but is there any proof for this theory?

  • @wunderbar5702
    @wunderbar570210 ай бұрын

    Expanding on @steffanyschwartz7801 idea, my theory is that the Unbidden are empires from other galaxies that managed to ascend. They learned to coexist at first, but now are divided as more and more aspire to tap into their power. Despite infighting they all agree on one thing - destroying the galaxy before they will have to share the potential of the Shroud with yet another beings.

  • @art-games6230

    @art-games6230

    10 ай бұрын

    But don’t the unbidden claim that they’re from a place close to the shroud? Not the shroud itself?

  • @doggotaco7539
    @doggotaco753910 ай бұрын

    Me and my mate found your channel a week ago and pretty much watched all of your videos. Keep up the phenomenal work, man

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Aha! Happy to hear it :) Glad you're both enjoying the videos - thanks for letting me know

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel10 ай бұрын

    My theory for what happened is that this was the same empire that made a pact with the End of the Cycle. They sought unfathomable power to bring about the end, the the shroud god granted them that, but when it realized what the empire was doing, that it would bring the end of its reality as well, it vowed to bring their end instead. So I think that the engine would have let them ascend, but the End stopped them, because right before the engine was fired, it came to collect its due. That would explain where the designs for the Star Eaters and the Engine came from (my theory being that The End gave them the schematics for the engine knowing that it could stop them right before they fired it), and I also think it makes sense mechanically, because the only case where you'd ever want to do the End pact is if you can end the game with the Aetherophasic Engine before the 50 year time is up.

  • @isuckatusernames4297
    @isuckatusernames429710 ай бұрын

    from personally experience its always the gestalts who take that perk despite it being more implied to be a psionic exclusive perk

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    They get slightly different text to the one I used which was from a standard organic empire

  • @isuckatusernames4297

    @isuckatusernames4297

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheRedKing I never knew about that. that being said, I bearely play as not a gestalt and even more rarely do I go down the psionic route.

  • @archmagemc3561

    @archmagemc3561

    10 ай бұрын

    Gestalt robots see the shroud as a way to bypass the calculation limitations of the physical realm. Not sure on hives though

  • @dottietyre9062
    @dottietyre906210 ай бұрын

    I hope the next DLC adds a Star Forge Megastructure allowing you to construct millions of spacecraft in record time

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    I have doubts about this being in a DLC

  • @dottietyre9062

    @dottietyre9062

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheRedKing Yeah but it's such a cool concept

  • @TheContingency25x

    @TheContingency25x

    10 ай бұрын

    Idk. I’d rather have an alloy one.

  • @noname-wl6ow

    @noname-wl6ow

    3 ай бұрын

    Mods

  • @dottietyre9062

    @dottietyre9062

    3 ай бұрын

    @@noname-wl6ow Game's a cash grab I dumped money on 2 DLC and stopped playing it after a few months say what you want but that kinda game's really difficult

  • @SamanoJoel
    @SamanoJoel10 ай бұрын

    This is like if the covenant found the halo rings, but stellaris style

  • @therealspeedwagon1451
    @therealspeedwagon145110 ай бұрын

    This makes me think of how in my game the XT-489, which was controlled by an AI as I played space Romans managed to become the crisis and right when they finished the crisis situation, I declared them a crisis and waged a total war on them. I of course had to use console commands to get rid of some border gore and because the fallen empires got involved with them. But hey, at least I got to become galactic emperor out of it.

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Space Romans appear remarkably popular 😂

  • @bgcvetan
    @bgcvetan10 ай бұрын

    Yes just rip open the shroud and make sure to make it permanent, what can go wrong? At least four to Five things best shared with no one.

  • @jackvalior
    @jackvalior10 ай бұрын

    Given that star eater just crack stars and create black hole to harvest materials, I doubt that the mega structure Engine is any different in principle. In other words, the engine is merely a device that harvest the galaxy for material, and the empire that chose its path did so not knowing they were deceived. I will speculate that the original creator of the Engine are the elusive Hunter we heard about, setting up traps and hunting for galaxies to consume.

  • @schwingedeshaehers

    @schwingedeshaehers

    10 ай бұрын

    What do you think about it beening part of the cycle?

  • @jackvalior

    @jackvalior

    10 ай бұрын

    @@schwingedeshaehers I think this crisis aim to be more permanent, though the same can be said of any crisis. Perhaps the destruction of all stars in the galaxy eventually lead to their recreation. We did see the infinity machine showing us a different dimension created from black hole, so a vast number of them, eventually, some matter will leak back through? A true cycle of destruction and creation. Though if you are talking about the Shroud End of Cycle entity, I do not think they are directly related

  • @JimmyStiffFingers
    @JimmyStiffFingers10 ай бұрын

    LET THE GALAXY BURN!

  • @archmagemc3561
    @archmagemc356110 ай бұрын

    There are 3 levels of the shriud i think. (most mods go with this ststem.) Surface, middle, and deep. Psionically ascending empires interface with the surface shroud, eith a very rare chance to get End of the Cycle which is assumed to be something from the middle shroud. A throry is that a crisis empire is trying to bore through the shallow shroud into the medium, with the plans on how to do this given by a deep shroud entity. Or the empire is trying to merge with the shallow shroud and the end of the cycle gave them the plans. Either eay it seems thst many think all of this is just a gosl for a shroud entity to have a massive feast on those who conplete this path.

  • @ScorpioneOrzion

    @ScorpioneOrzion

    10 ай бұрын

    I think that shroud entity, is The end of the Cycle

  • @art-games6230

    @art-games6230

    10 ай бұрын

    Do any official stellaris things prove that the shroud has 3 levels? Or just mods?

  • @ScorpioneOrzion

    @ScorpioneOrzion

    10 ай бұрын

    @@art-games6230 just mods

  • @art-games6230

    @art-games6230

    10 ай бұрын

    @@ScorpioneOrzion then we probably cannot take it as a viable theory

  • @iloveemeralds4622
    @iloveemeralds462210 ай бұрын

    I always hear about the shroud being similar to the warp and it always gives me one question. If a empire worships a psychic as a god will their psychic power increase?

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    If it happens, it's not reflected in game

  • @alexkatc59

    @alexkatc59

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheRedKing How so? Remember, when you choose to decide leadership in federation by psychic challenge, the more psychics you have the more powerfull will be your contender.

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    The power of the god they worship doesn't increase, which I believe was the question asked

  • @emetanti

    @emetanti

    10 ай бұрын

    Keep in mind that even if its 1:1 with the Warp, those effects stem from Big E being fed/worshipped for thousands of years, 100 years would be a drop in the ocean.

  • @ZeroNumerous

    @ZeroNumerous

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheRedKing Personally I read "If the Empire worships a psychic" as in "a psychic person" not a "god in the Shroud"

  • @clothpillow7218
    @clothpillow72188 ай бұрын

    I'm unsure if this is what the Contingency was made for. It's very well known that the Contingency was created to stop a Class-30 Singularity, which has the capacity to destroy the fabric of the entire universe I think that the Engine is close, but I think it's not close enough if it only destroys a single Galaxy It's heavily implied that this galaxy is not the only one that the Contingency has been placed in. "Here and Elsewhere" to me sounds less to me like them describing their central processing and their sterilization hubs, but more like, they exist in this galaxy and in others. It's actually kinda scary to have the possibility that the Class-30 singularity could be the Engine but in a much stronger form, if I'm on the right track.

  • @Matt-vq8fg
    @Matt-vq8fg10 ай бұрын

    Hope you never stop doing this kind of content. ❤

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks Matt!!

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel10 ай бұрын

    Been waiting for this one for a long time.

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Hope you enjoy it!

  • @asdfvbnm677
    @asdfvbnm67710 ай бұрын

    It would be interested to know how this civilizations fare in the face of shroud ( and it's many entites) Perhaps they succeed and change the very fabric of the galaxy to make it hospitable again ( for unknown reasons).

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer788310 ай бұрын

    Stellaris Nemesis Crisis: "Watch upon my splendor! I can destroy a star turning it into a black hole and I can harness the power of the Aetherophasic Engine and destroy the entire galaxy! My godhood is ultimate and can do as I wilt!" Stellaris Gigastructures & Ancient Cache of Technologies factions: "Those are rookie numbers kid. Our ships are the size of solar systems and can harness the power of hyperdimensional alloys for durable armor and hulls and energy barriers and we can even use Qaesar weapons for our ships which have the potency enough to shake the foundations of the galaxy casually. Your godhood is a doctrine of delusion and mental limitation conforming to lawlessness and likely a demonization by whatever entities or Principalities of the Shroud put that evil thought in your mind. Here we are mature enough to understand and utilize the power we wield far greater then you can Nemesis Crisis Empire who conform to lawlessness. And that behavior doesn't fly in our galaxy. Nor does your Aetherophasic Engine possessed by demons." The End of the Cycle & the Hunters: "Ah crap they figured it out, our intentions have been caught red handed!"

  • @marcosbrenfa
    @marcosbrenfa10 ай бұрын

    This is so good, praise the algorithm for suggesting your channel, I even started playing since the last time, but after an hour I exited the game and searched for an auto pause mod, since everything is new for me and the in game auto pause only pause some events, that was really upsetting me

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Ah yeah if you're new the event spam can be intense. You can choose what you wish to be notified about in the options somewhere and i'd suggest just playing at a normal speed and hitting pause as often as you like until you're used to the game :) Best of luck! Glad you're trying it out, it's a fantastic game

  • @jamesdreads7828
    @jamesdreads782810 ай бұрын

    for the algorithm.. great vid as ever, thanks bruvvaaa

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Cheers James! :)

  • @tetsujinyamamoto2219
    @tetsujinyamamoto221910 ай бұрын

    So basically Aetherophasic engine is like Stellaris equivalent to Halo array from the Halo series

  • @Erusparadise
    @Erusparadise4 ай бұрын

    I watch one of these every night. They're absolutely astounding

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    4 ай бұрын

    Happy to hear it!! :)

  • @TheContingency25x
    @TheContingency25x10 ай бұрын

    I AM the crisis. Not you primitives but I.

  • @svijj_

    @svijj_

    10 ай бұрын

    No, *I* am the real crisis!

  • @TheContingency25x

    @TheContingency25x

    10 ай бұрын

    @@svijj_ No. You will be beaten and forgotten like those that came before you many many times ago. You do not bare the right to call yourself a crisis…… not yet but in time you may become more.

  • @asymsolutions

    @asymsolutions

    10 ай бұрын

    NO. I AM THE CRISIS

  • @1650th

    @1650th

    10 ай бұрын

    You are a machine contaminated with viruses

  • @V1489Cygni

    @V1489Cygni

    10 ай бұрын

    Nice try but if _you_ are the crisis, then how come you're only here in oder to prevent a "singularity class whatever" from appearing in the first place? Sounds to me like you classify yourself as the lesser of two evils. Every scholarly research points to the true crisis being the enabled xeno compatibility option.

  • @bobybimberbod8500
    @bobybimberbod85006 ай бұрын

    Numidium moment

  • @1650th
    @1650th10 ай бұрын

    The hive has arrived

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Afternoon :)

  • @xVMouseVx
    @xVMouseVx3 ай бұрын

    I would like the idea an apex civilization that successfully ascends to a higher realm would be at the literal bottom of that new realm

  • @Nombre_Nombre_Cuenca
    @Nombre_Nombre_Cuenca20 күн бұрын

    Sometimes my audio gets all fucked up, and it gives my audio aa very "static" ish sound to it, and, tbh, somehow, it enhances your videos making them really sound like it's a worn down recording hundreds of thousands of years in the future

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    20 күн бұрын

    Aha that's quite cool I like it :)

  • @V1489Cygni
    @V1489Cygni10 ай бұрын

    I'll always be salty over you not being able to take the perk and become the emperor. Why give me a subjugation causus beli on everyone if I can't rule the galaxy? Why deny me the chance to decieve my way into being the custodian? I don't even want to destroy the galaxy, all I want are cheap ships. Hell, all my menacing points came from non disruptive intelligence operations, fighting back the odd raiding party and defeating the bloody grey tempest. ... And I want to say "I love democracy"

  • @Diarmuhnd
    @Diarmuhnd10 ай бұрын

    The Red King is awesome ! 👍

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks very much :)

  • @canguist6004
    @canguist600410 ай бұрын

    The universe does not tremble to BTC empires They tremble to the blokkats

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Blokkat are scary!!

  • @thorshammer7883

    @thorshammer7883

    10 ай бұрын

    And then the Stellarborne comes and makes even the foundations of Stellaris Gigastructures crumble before them.

  • @spode2091
    @spode209110 ай бұрын

    very good video, BTW when will the kaiser video release?

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure yet, it won't be the next giga video though there is some stuff to cover inbetween :)

  • @we3genshin808
    @we3genshin8082 ай бұрын

    I think the Afrofazik engine responsible for a lot tbh

  • @burnttoast597
    @burnttoast59710 ай бұрын

    Let's go!!!

  • @michaelroy7754
    @michaelroy775410 ай бұрын

    I still want a wY to set some fleets in a system then have those as a start with no colonies in a random galaxy. You might be a hostile invader or a peaceful explorer. Huh i can dream. Everytime i play this crisis the gane crashes when the engine fires.

  • @Zathurious
    @Zathurious9 ай бұрын

    I think death is the result. If you look at everything that comes out of going down this road, it all points to a manifestation of hardcore nihilism in the species themselves.

  • @IndieGinge

    @IndieGinge

    5 ай бұрын

    I think that's a strong observation, and that it's an important critical reading of the text. The civilization feels one way about itself, but it's clearly an intensely narcissistic feeling, perhaps delusional. We could argue that these policies are that of a society utterly devoted and indoctrinated into a narcissistic dearh cult that says "we will die, but we are the world, thus if we die the world dies with us." The engine can be the material manifestation of this psychotic worldview instead, where the crowning achievement of the death cult is ultimate death.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme50810 ай бұрын

    Wish for video about the Templin Institute's Greater Terran Union & Antares Confederacy in the future?

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    ummmmmm I guess I could take a look... I wouldn't want to step on any toes...

  • @DarkKnight52365

    @DarkKnight52365

    10 ай бұрын

    i would love to see them do a GTU 2.0 especially with how much the game has changed since season 1

  • @pyeitme508

    @pyeitme508

    10 ай бұрын

    @@TheRedKing Welp ok...

  • @1650th

    @1650th

    10 ай бұрын

    Depends if the species has toes

  • @alexkatc59
    @alexkatc5910 ай бұрын

    There is only thing i never understand. Why do not Fallen Empires do anything, when i start build Aetherophasic Engine?

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    I believe they declare war on you at a certain crisis stage same as everyone else?

  • @dango6266

    @dango6266

    27 күн бұрын

    Playing crisis game right now. I was lucky and the war in heaven struk as I was getting ready for the crisis path. A third of the galaxy is killing themselves, I control another third and the last third is a actually facing me. I think it really depends.

  • @zeehero7280
    @zeehero728010 ай бұрын

    When they fire the engine they Become As Gods. BECOME AS GODS! YOU AS WELL SHALL BECOME AS GODS!

  • @ghostttriddder
    @ghostttriddder10 ай бұрын

    Is it also possible that you will cover Ancient Crates of Technology in the future?

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    For sure

  • @megumin_6548
    @megumin_654810 ай бұрын

    My head cannon is they too just die or have their souls harvested / mutilated by the shroud if they survive at all

  • @dicw98439
    @dicw9843910 ай бұрын

    I would suspect death for all, including the engines creators.

  • @skeefz8790
    @skeefz879010 ай бұрын

    My lords,

  • @bneskylights1152
    @bneskylights115210 ай бұрын

    It's not the warp.It's not the warp.It's not the warp.

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    👀

  • @Direwolf1618
    @Direwolf161810 ай бұрын

    Everyone totaly dies, only winner is whatever shroud demon pushed this idea... probably "End of the Cycle"

  • @amazingaces4389
    @amazingaces438910 ай бұрын

    It sounds like these fools blew themselves up. A thing from another more powerful dimension convince these fools to blow themselves up in the promise and hope they would reach Ascension and combine t The two fields together... the reason there was so much more "activity" in the shroud was due to the beings tapping in to see if and when these fools would really blow themselves up😂😂 I know they were taking bets on this possibly one time event.😅

  • @jhtrq1465
    @jhtrq146510 ай бұрын

    You are a very good narrator, but, really, this BtC is the dumbest most poorly written piece of lore they ever wrote. When you compare it to the Horizon Signal, the BtC lore look like a half arsed story written by a not very implicated 5 yo child.

  • @TheRedKing

    @TheRedKing

    10 ай бұрын

    Aha fair enough!

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