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Stellaris The Machine Age will allow us to become virtual gods and then ascend to take the power of a Fallen Empire. There is only one thing that could challenge us... The Mommyssiah.
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@justgoodvibes1500
23 күн бұрын
Why did you not pick ascensionists?
@williamfrankland5371
22 күн бұрын
Any console players watching this so when the dlc releases for us we are ready? Also I know that doing this is kinda sad but I don’t care
@Shadow-bk1im
18 күн бұрын
something you could do to maximize the lathe is to resettle the pop that is being purged as it resets the time before purge. TBH I don't think virtual ascendancy is that great with the lathe considering the lathe can generate crazy science with high efficiency as every new chip gives 5% more output to every other chip. Going for an empire that can just pump out crazy numbers of people to put in the lathe might just generate more science since in my testing just getting to 60 or 70 pops increases the output to 1000 of each science type compared to the 300 you get at 35. Edit: additionally when I tried doing this it prevented me from building pops on my worlds even though they didn't have the virtual trait and growing was quite slow so I had to buy every pop I wanted off the market which was expensive and there isn't an unlimited supply of them.
spiritualist machines : let's outlaw ourselves by taking away Full AI rights
@MontuPlays
23 күн бұрын
In this case... the meat machines are AI... so yes. Take away full AI rights (i.e. enslave all bios)! *The CHURCH OF THE CUBE approves this message!*
You know, as someone who bought Stellaris at launch, watching the development of the game over its lifespan has been a Hell of a ride.
@valentynporada5617
23 күн бұрын
yeah lol I still remember the pain when you had to build farms on every planet as there was no universal food stockpile
@yaldabaoth2
22 күн бұрын
Which ftl drive did you choose?
@spikey6694
22 күн бұрын
@@yaldabaoth2Me personally, I’m a wormhole enjoyer. But I can guess that OP won’t enjoy this *finer* part of life…
@DarthChratis
20 күн бұрын
@@yaldabaoth2 I was a hyperdrive player, bak when hyperdrive could jump out from the middle of the system.
@WongKinYuenHK
17 күн бұрын
@@valentynporada5617 I also remember the jigsaw puzzles on each planet and actually having to choose a correct square for your initlal disassembled ship shelter so it boosts the most buildings.
So basically, don’t fall for the the crisis hook line and sinker when she hangs a carrot on a stick over your head or you’ll be turned into a vegetable
@EdricLysharae
13 күн бұрын
You, my lad, have wit.
"And they were one month from retirement!"
Couldn't help but notice the name Zarqlan mentioned in one of the Cetana events. Head of Zarqlan is the relic that makes you buddies with the spiritualist fallen empire. Interesting to see if there's more to that connection.
@malkuth1974
23 күн бұрын
Seems Cetena has been the cause of a lot of past problems reading those entries.
@khorneflakes8069
15 күн бұрын
If you have the Relic she asks for it. Giving it to her makes her happy. She also says a part of his consciousness is still in there. She then keeps it with her to make him watch her complete her work
@elijahaleksanteri307
12 күн бұрын
@@khorneflakes8069Means she was the one they were fleeing from.
Wowwwwww I can't believe Cetana erased your minds with 1 month left! What an ending lol.
I had to explain to my friend who doesn't play Stellaris and doesn't know 40K lore why I was laughing when I heard you first refer to Cetana as "Mommysiah."
@kufesska
22 күн бұрын
i thought i am fine with 40k lore, but can you explain that please?
@Jackson-uq9qg
22 күн бұрын
@kufesska omnissiah of the tech priests play on words
@SamuelGracefell
22 күн бұрын
@@kufesska The omnissiah is the machine god in 40k, its a play on words on that as this one is female
@kufesska
22 күн бұрын
@@SamuelGracefell ohhh, failed to connect two words, ofc i know omnissiah, just bad at wordplay
@tomlaptain646
14 күн бұрын
@@SamuelGracefellI thought it was just a play on Messiah, rather than omnissiah specifically.
That fact that with virtual ascension Clerks not only provide trade value (which isn't affected with the resource output bonus/penalty) but also provides a job output bonus seems to mean that with enough clerks, even if you're at the full -75% penalty, you could brute force your way into negating it. Also, using the Utopian Abundance living standard as pseudo-scientists sounds brilliant. This whole build was just great to watch.
@igniseternus1643
23 күн бұрын
The penalty cap was actually taken away, so its soft cap is -90% but really you are stacking it into negative infinity
@KrummerGeier
23 күн бұрын
@@igniseternus1643 So we won't see a wide virtual one because the penalty grows?
@igniseternus1643
23 күн бұрын
@@KrummerGeier Yeah its kinda an insurmountable output penalty
@MrAzhrarn
22 күн бұрын
I can see this working well with the Worker Cooperative civic as well, because then you have a trade policy that generates minerals, energy and food, in case the shortages become problematic.
@fuchsmichael93
20 күн бұрын
Actually makes me rethink the Ruined Ring Origin. Since it counts as 3 Colonys. I guess back to Ocean Paradies for Tall.
This video is proof Montu is an enemy of humanity. He plays the new DLC before it's even out, taunting us. To war!
@MontuPlays
23 күн бұрын
*THE CHURCH OF THE CUBE are requesting your location*
@ObiwanNekody
23 күн бұрын
At least he didn't butcher Bubbles.
@moleg0dmachine724
23 күн бұрын
@@MontuPlays to war!!!!!!!
@Asgardians3t
19 күн бұрын
@@MontuPlays The Church of Engineers have entered the chat :p
Imagine as a fallen empire being around for thousands of years only for another empire barely a hundred years old to easily outpace you militarily and even technologically with some weird computer they invented lol
@DontKnow-hr5my
21 күн бұрын
I am honestly very surprised that none of the Fallen Empires interfere as soon as they realize what that is. Seems a prime cause to awaken, especially the Materialist and Spiritualist ones.
@theimperious1
9 күн бұрын
@@DontKnow-hr5my Same. I thought this happened in my first playthrough with this become the crisis thing. When I started progressing in it the War In Heaven started and both fallen empires went to war. Unfortunately, I was right between both of them literally bordering both. I had to become a Thrall and beat one then Cetana showed up and wiped out my overlord. Then idk what happened but Cetana was profoundly weak and only had like 70k fleet power per fleet, like 7 fleets. Easily wiped her. I assume I had some setting wrong because I keep seeing videos of her with 1m+ fleet power lol Going again but now I kinda wanna restart and try this build strategy. One thing I hate about Stellaris is how tedious it is to build wide. Building tall sounds fantastic. Forgot to mention: was using Gigastructures which made Fallen Empires have like 3-12m fleet power lol. Having them both on my borders and picking war with one was quite bad. Fortunately, having the option to encourage allied fleets to follow me helped. I got the militant fallen empire to follow me around and together we rekt the Holy fallen empire. This high fleet power btw is part of why I felt Cetana was so absurdly weak. I'm gonna have to ramp up the crisis difficulty I guess. I did this time.
I love how spiritualist viruality with utopian abundance basically lets you treat bio pops like you’re a rogue servitor without being a rogue servitor.
10:10 "Tall" is the new wide confirmed.
Geez Montu, you swept into 3 planets taking everything and left. The worlds just desolate of any life and left for them to return to an empty planet
@MontuPlays
23 күн бұрын
We were the ultimate eco warriors...
@helcarloki1887
15 күн бұрын
Reuse, recycle!!
Jesus Christ that virtual focus policy LOL
I am imagining multiplayer matches with vast areas of the galaxy unclaimed because everyone has a 4-5 system virtual empire
@joeschmonium7452
22 күн бұрын
Im planning on playing with a new to the game friend and im gonna do this strat, cant wait for him to have a heart attack the instant my 1 mil fallen empite fleet materializes on his doorstep while he's just fixing his economy
Thats the goddamn greatest stellaris playthrough video ever. Mindblowing.
CyberDaddy Monutuwu at it again.
@TheNo15
23 күн бұрын
Can't wait for the Synthetic King Mod that makes Mommysiah into Cyberdaddy.
@BAGELMENSK
23 күн бұрын
🤢
This honestly looks like the best update / expansion in a long time, possibly ever? I especially like how the new crisis is a bit more complicated than just a bunch of big enemy fleets with a faction screen attached and a few cursory events. It's also nice seeing them develop stellaris' own lore a bit, with Zarqlan's cameo and all
Not sure if you can do this as a virtual crisis, but when I'm doing a Sovereign Guardian Egalitarian Smash and Grab on pops, I usually use the trade dialogue to give them the planet back with a single pop on it. It saves on influence and lets them build more pops for me to liberate from their oppressive societies.
@MontuPlays
23 күн бұрын
I salted the earth so nothing would grow again... and yeah... I did have to do that
Jesus, Cetana seems brutal for a Crisis. Kind of like an AI version of the other player Crisis.
@PizzaMineKing
22 күн бұрын
But one you can't meaningfully declare war on early thanks to the nanites...
@shinkicker404
22 күн бұрын
@@PizzaMineKing yeah that is evil.
@PizzaMineKing
22 күн бұрын
@@shinkicker404 I'd like to see her go up against galactic nemesis - who do you think would win?
@dovahkat9635
19 күн бұрын
@@PizzaMineKing I guess it's a matter of if using the Star Eater will annihilate her in the process. If so, should be as simple as making sure it survives long enough to do the deed.
@matiasnoguera461
16 күн бұрын
@@PizzaMineKingI would say that their nemesis would be the Praetori since they are a biological supremacist type crisis where everything from ships to ammunition is a living being.
As soon as I heard her voice I discovered that machines can infact have souls
Finally after all these years, non hiveminded machines! Cant wait to try a Trazyn the Infinite style build, stealing pops and adding them to his collection.
@tortex1
23 күн бұрын
Well, the Lathe was a kind of collection. A very valuable and treasured one.
@Killer_Turkey89
13 күн бұрын
I did a criminal mega corp that steals pops. Worked OKish to bad raiding bombardement is so bad...
Remember, Montu is ALWAYS playing THE GOOD GUY!!!
@MontuPlays
23 күн бұрын
From my point of view the Jedi are evil!
@theflame5919
23 күн бұрын
@@MontuPlays The jedi.. a religious galactic theocracy what kills all of its opposition, because they are "evil". I don't know Montu, pretty sure that makes Jedi the good guys 😅
@Bloodlyshiva
20 күн бұрын
@@theflame5919 The Sith were initially banished. One can argue this was bad for the galaxy as a whole. It's also overstating the power the Jedi have. Theocracy, yes, but 'galactic' implies they're a superpower of some sort. They're not. Despite their powers, they lack numbers and always have.
"And that makes clerks really really good." -Montu, 2024. Never forget.
I don't want to watch this because it's going to be my first playthrough... BUT I CAN'T STOP WATCHING!
lost it as the refugees arrived xD good video Montu
@MontuPlays
23 күн бұрын
Noted!
> virtualization: pops are generated based on available jobs holy shit! ... now i'm wondering how this would interplay with a Birch World. probably disgustingly OP - as it should be.
@tortex1
23 күн бұрын
Suddenly Planetary Build Speed has new meaning.
@samuelcrow4701
22 күн бұрын
Yea the gigas devs are trying to find a counterbalance but are struggling
@TheOnlyAlchimous
21 күн бұрын
The plan there was, and it may have changed in the last week or two, to make every insula count as an extra planet.
@vaendryl
21 күн бұрын
@@TheOnlyAlchimous that's clever!
@randomdude7052
19 күн бұрын
it feels like it would be similarly digusting with a frame world. Wonder how the devs counterbalance the frame without completely forcing you into virtual. Probably planetary outposts contribute towards negative benifits
The virtual pops are going to be absolutely busted on a birch world from gigastructures 😅
I think when Machine age Comes out, I'm going tom play as Scions to see if there's a special interactions with the synth queen. Plus the role play of the materialists sending out a bunch of robots to build them a new empire is kind of a interesting roleplay.
You don't have to make any more tier lists if Cetana eliminates all sentience. Really a big win for Montu.
That was a lot of fun to watch! Overall, it was a very interesting way to play the game, and those research numbers made me laugh way too hard - truly research beyond reason. I really enjoyed the close ending, and it's good to know that the galaxy just goes "pop" when Cetana wins. That helped me adjust my expectations and how I might approach this. Can't just sit back and ignore her.
Youre videos and little RP sections keeps making me play Stelaris. Its replayability is insane.
Seeing the price of Arc Welder stages being that low, it seems like it makes the Neutronium Gigaforge from Gigas rather inefficient (although it produces a lot more overall at the cost of monstrous upkeep). That. Is mad. I love it.
Love it, and love how Monty sounds a bit saucy by the end of the video.
The ending was a perfect anticlimax after such a solid run. I loved it.
Its not even out yet and we're already calling her Mommysiah 🤣
Third time watching it I think this video is your best video ever. Smooth editing with great timing and great soundtracks. Like Quality of this video is Several eons ahead of your other videos! Keep up the quality!!
The personal touches and narrative made this fantastic to kick back and watch. Well done as always
@MontuPlays
21 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
64K research, before the tech nerf the highest I'd ever bothered getting it to was 48K (2200 empire size) but my most technologically advanced empire was a spiritualist MEGA-Church that had 32K but only 350 empire size. I'd never get those numbers now.
Early access??? Woooo what an exciting Sunday!!
I've got to tip my hat at Montu. Completely different play through than Aspec. Though, both had the same end goal. This video had me on the edge of seat. Well done mate. o7
This expansion looks incredible, well done Paradox.
Tomorrow on the 7th of may is my birthday and this DLC comes out! thanks for the video! i know exactly what im doing with stellaris!
6:58 Stretchy arms and extendo-fingers... Stretchy arms and extendo-fingers...! STRETCHY ARMS AND EXTENDO-FINGERRRSSS!!!
Bro imagine being cetana and returning to the galaxy just to find not only all the empires that trapped you still here but an entirely new fallen empire 💀
Imagine life returning to this galaxy, repopulating worlds and then finding your grand fleet just sitting there in pristine condition due to auto repair just outside a black hole. What wonderful mysteries this new race would dive into trying to unravel the life and legend of the church of the cube.
Great video, ending completely caught me off guard too
I can already tell this is going to be my favorite build, purging pops by the hundreds for a massive amount of science? Yes please
Surprised how many years it took for the Stellaris team to finally make some "play tall" options in the game.
I tried this strat today, and was plopped down into the best "Wide" starting area I've ever seen. Systems with 2 and 3 habitable planets. Cybrex precursors. A ruined ring system, AND an interstellar assembly, all within the core empire.
Nihilistic acquisition with this new crisis path will be quite the combo i imagine
Honestly the cube religion idea would work better with the galactic nemesis given the ultimate weapon in that is a giant cube lmao
Took me a couple of retries to be able to do that. On the ensign difficulty lol but i had lots of fun! im still having trouble to be able to make the factions happy idk how to even start with that :D. Still managed to win the game tho! this has been the most fun ive ever had with this dlc! going virtual w arc furnace is awesome! and this is coming from a player that doesnt play machine empires at all. Ive always preferred either Bio going Psionic or Hive Mind going Become The Crisis but i havent played machine empires much. Ive tried playing Machines before and i always end up suffering with resource management. Been getting better over time. That said this build worked really well. Im going to be replaying this Build that u show in the video and each time after i win ill increase the difficulty by 1. One day ill win on Grand Admiral! THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST FUN IVE EVER HAD IN STELLARIS!!! I named my empire The Church of Engineers!
I'm getting flashbacks to the anime of Expelled from Paradise
cybrex is gonna be so op with this start
Best Stellaris Let's Play ever. Cetana got you by the skin of her synthetic teeth.
I can't wait to play with this!
YES. MONTU YOU'RE AWESOME ❤ sorry... you're awesome
vert pops will be beyond broken on birch worlds. basically it will lead to exponential birch size growth, since there is no limit and it generates idle jobs for every pop that must be empty to stop generation...
Any chance you could upload a full playthrough, or some sort of build guide that is edited in a way that is easier to follow for noobish players like me? I'm really trying to get into the game and follow everything from the various snapshots, but I keep finding that I'm way behind at certain points in time compared to your playthrough and it can be hard to understand why with so many variables/mechanic involved.. Would also certainly be nice to show how you build your fleets every now and then as mine seem to get destroyed a lot and I don't always understand why. Either way, keep up the good work!
What an ending.. I'm not even mad, I'm impressed!
Well we all know what everyone will be playing in the next montu madness game
Honestly... this DLC was such a Jump in Quality for Stellaris as a whole, i am baffled, if they continue like this i am truly full of excitement
Hey, love your videos and commentary! Just a quick note though, all the extra zooming and focusing can get a bit confusing. Even for someone like me who's been playing Stellaris casually since 2016, it can be hard to keep up. I worry it might turn off new players, especially since your channel is probably one of the first places they check out for Stellaris content. I think slowing down a bit during explanations and using less focus and zooming could make things much easier to follow, even at the cost of slightly longer videos.
Montu has embraced clerks! And he hates it
This is cool! I wonder how much the fallen empire ascension damages the galaxy. IIRC it causes some damage, but I'm not sure how much.
Montu build videos = "Come for the strat, wait for the nerf bat"
Ohh my...The last w...It is quiet now. Well that was terrifying.
Hi montu great video as always bro. Just wondering how u got the cubes portrait? I have every dlc and I still don't have the cube portrait.
I suspect the next MMM will have a lot of Arc Furnace origin enjoyers lol
@anlasma7942
23 күн бұрын
nah, too much alloy investments that can be used to print out more ships
@TheMorninGlory23
21 күн бұрын
@@anlasma7942 I think the guaranteed mega engineering from it will be big, people been unable to get megastructures since tech changes in MMM
Now I need to see a run where you find the head of Zarqlan and purge that robotic weirdo with the help of the fallen empire
I have played a decent amount of stellaris with all addons and I had no idea you could do half of this stuff 😅
You had me at Palpatine
So excited to RP dwarves with this expansion!
adaptive frames, best trait ever for machines
57:30 "use your jumpdrive pls use your jumpdrive" and then he didn't and I was sad
I really really want the other Crisis to also be as amazing as this one
Can't wait to play virtuality + frame world from gigastructures 😍 Also, I'm curious what ACoT team will do with the new crisis perk. Hopefully it'll be somehow integrated.
Somehow the tall empires have returned!
It’s like you’re caregivers without the concept of sympathy
0:50 it should have been Church of Montu
So now we can become à fallen empire ??? 😀 Is there a new way to reduce late game lag ?
@MontuPlays
23 күн бұрын
We found an in-game way to minimise the lag. Can't have lag if the other empires have no ships. Can't have ships if they have no economy. Can't have an economy if they have no pops... Mommyssiah bless Cosmogenesis!
All this talk of "tall" and "wide" empire playthroughs, but everyone always ignores the supreme empire shape... Round. Of course, simply taking control of the entire galactic disc is way better than limiting yourself to only a handful of stars and planets.
Holy shit I cannot wait to try this, it seems insane lol
Fun fact: the galaxy for the most part don't care if you put gestalt pops in the lathe. So you can in theory trap a hivemind ai & keep stealing their pops for the lathe and the galaxy mostly don't care.(Hiveminds start to hate you)
This is exactly the kind of tall I like.
When someone says "We'll deal with that in a moment" when playing Stellaris: 😨
Hope there's a cool interaction with the Spiritual Fallen Empire and Cetana.
"we're burning through these pops at quite a rate....about 1 every month and a half, Buuuuuut... we are making a 1000 research right now thank to that so I'm not going to complain at all.... and they can't complain" -Montu 2024
Amazing, been out of Stellaris since version 2.4 something, came back and tested this (after purchasing all addons etc). Didn't really go as smooth as yours, but got there on first try. I'm really curious if one can find a way to get this working with nihilistic aquisition for smoother filling of the Synaptic Lathe more easily? In any case, super fun build, thanks a lot! Keep up the good work!
Church Cube Church Cube! CHURCH CUBE!! CHUUUURCH CUBE!!!!
@NotA-Real-Therapist
23 күн бұрын
🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊
I hope they give the genetics ascension path some goodies soon as well, needs some love.
Geez I was already thinking about a virtual trade empire but +1% from clerks is a no brainer.
holy moly, voice acted now??
Must watch later, hate spoilers.
spiritualistic AI is a lovely new trait for stellaris
Ecusort (Ecumenopolis + Resort) might be super-crazy with this empire, if the exploit is still possible.
That was the greatest playthrough of Stellaris I have ever seen!! What happens when you get the Needle ship through in time?
@kenawyn
22 күн бұрын
Based on the dev diaries: - The Needle ship escapes to a younger universe (better suited to rewrite physics to your liking). - You win the game. - Your last planet and your core systems becomes a fallen empire. - You can choose to continue playing by selecting another empire.
@miroz0181
22 күн бұрын
@@kenawyn wow!!!! That's awesome! Thanks 😁
Finally an EGC that can make you lose