Who is the Best Flash?

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In this episode, we're looking at the Flash Family to determine which Flash is the greatest Flash of all!
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  • @Myk95
    @Myk95 Жыл бұрын

    John Wesley Shipp's portrayal of Jay Garrick is just so good, a seasoned hero yet humble and still friendly. Especially taking to account that he was the Flash back on his own show in the 90's.

  • @uncannydcmarvelous5732

    @uncannydcmarvelous5732

    Жыл бұрын

    He deserves more screentime on the last season instead of the annoying Cecile, Chester and Allegra (Eric Wallace's favorite trio).

  • @Myk95

    @Myk95

    Жыл бұрын

    @@uncannydcmarvelous5732 Agreed.

  • @jonathanwalker4937

    @jonathanwalker4937

    Жыл бұрын

    Met him at a con back in 2018 he's like that in real life as well.

  • @samuelbankston2108

    @samuelbankston2108

    Жыл бұрын

    I find it hilarious that that guy was flash in the 2000 version of the Flash where Mark Hamill was the trickster. Never watched it looks awful now lol.

  • @blkpanther11

    @blkpanther11

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 Totally Agree

  • @AifDaimon
    @AifDaimon Жыл бұрын

    Barry & Wally are two sides of the same coin: Barry mastered the science behind the Speed Force, whereas Wally mastered its spiritual side

  • @parkerboy795

    @parkerboy795

    Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps, but the Speed Force is more mystical than scientific.

  • @AifDaimon

    @AifDaimon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@parkerboy795 you mean, it's actually more based in magic than science? Why is that? I kinda forgot the specific details

  • @parkerboy795

    @parkerboy795

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AifDaimon Because it allows speedsters to basically defy the rules of physics even further. Wally had a hard time accepting it when he learned about it at first, but him doing so gave him more power.

  • @AifDaimon

    @AifDaimon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@parkerboy795 ah, yes.. Indeed, he struggled to accept it initially cuz his mentor Barry taught him mainly the science of it

  • @parkerboy795

    @parkerboy795

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AifDaimon Barry taught him the science of being speedster, but Max Mercury taught him the Speed Force.

  • @godspeedrebirth
    @godspeedrebirth Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: Barry Allen was the first chairman of the Justice League

  • @darkshadowx9543

    @darkshadowx9543

    Жыл бұрын

    how long did that last?

  • @AbhishekKalgutkar

    @AbhishekKalgutkar

    Жыл бұрын

    Prolly until he ran back and messed up the timeline again

  • @SonicSSpeed000

    @SonicSSpeed000

    Жыл бұрын

    Correction: Flash Fact!

  • @darkshadowx9543

    @darkshadowx9543

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AbhishekKalgutkar this was before crisis on infinite Earths so this had nothing to do with barry changing the timeline

  • @smellywaffels1967

    @smellywaffels1967

    Жыл бұрын

    He didn’t pull the chair out for Wonder Woman? He’s no gentlemen.

  • @ericshun2552
    @ericshun2552 Жыл бұрын

    Wally is just my favorite all around Flash, I associate him as the goofy laid-back everyman like in the DCAU . He actually resolves conflicts peacefully if he can, he recognizes that some Villians aren't evil just mentally ill and in need of care. The true moral center of any team he's in. If any of the Flashes was protecting my city , it would be fine cause they are all great but I hope it would be Wally.

  • @GhostDrow

    @GhostDrow

    Жыл бұрын

    In the justice league animated show when he goes to the bar and just asks buddy to go back to prison. That's some legitimate policing for the people stuff. No instantly attacking and "solving" the issue, but communicating and being peaceful.

  • @clementsaw1131

    @clementsaw1131

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@GhostDrow wait i thought JLA flash was barry allen lol

  • @pepOnshow
    @pepOnshow Жыл бұрын

    Barry Allen is a great character but I grew up with Wally in the comics he proved time and time again why he is the fastest man alive and also has a heart of gold.

  • @keithtarnowski7328
    @keithtarnowski7328 Жыл бұрын

    I think it’s a testament to the character and creators of Wally West that so many people in this thread alone are choosing him despite Didio and King sabotaging him over the last decade and the fact that Barry has a show and movie. Wally is the best!

  • @jonathanchila6414

    @jonathanchila6414

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't blame King for that. I think he got his hands tied like what happened with nightwing and alfred.

  • @sorin-3510

    @sorin-3510

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jonathanchila6414 I know that he said he wanted Nightwing to recover in the next story from that bullet, but Dan DiDio said Grayson should lose him memory...🤦‍♂️

  • @TheGr8SageSama

    @TheGr8SageSama

    6 ай бұрын

    With all respect to Wally , Barry Story and CD steam Wally but in the animated series I do love Wally to the max, my first flash tbh.

  • @deancombs4075
    @deancombs4075 Жыл бұрын

    We don't talk about Heroes in Crisis. That was a character assassination on Wally.

  • @mitchschroeder1151
    @mitchschroeder1151 Жыл бұрын

    Silver Age Barry had no personality. I mean, calling him “vanilla” would be giving him too much credit. When they brought him back, they wanted to give him more personality, so they basically gave him Wally’s personality. That right there is proof enough for me that Wally is better; they got rid of Wally and then turned Barry into Wally.

  • @angels8920

    @angels8920

    17 күн бұрын

    Wally and Barry are not the same characters to me.

  • @logan2b
    @logan2b Жыл бұрын

    Barry probably is the better flash, but I love Wally more. I just love that story of the sidekick or apprentice having to take over their mentors title, like Morrison’s Batman and Robin

  • @keithharrissuwignjo2460

    @keithharrissuwignjo2460

    Жыл бұрын

    Plus I prefer his rebirth outfit over the other outfits

  • @quentinfogger5755

    @quentinfogger5755

    Жыл бұрын

    Is Barry Allen the first Flash to be part of one of the Lantern Corps as a Blue_Lantern?

  • @keithtarnowski7328

    @keithtarnowski7328

    10 ай бұрын

    There is no evidence at all that Barry is the better Flash. He’s made so many more and larger mistakes than Wally. He’s mopey. Self doubting. The great Barry Allen was the pre crisis version. Not this guy who came back in Flash rebirth.

  • @ryansanders8299
    @ryansanders829910 ай бұрын

    This video clearly biased. Wants to talk about Barry in crisis but then wants to completely ignore what happened to Wally in rebirth, and glosses over his whole reality and everything being lost and chalks up his time in sanctuary as simply missing people

  • @Jamiesonfrox
    @Jamiesonfrox Жыл бұрын

    My vote is for Jay. He needs way more love than he gets

  • @darkshadowx9543

    @darkshadowx9543

    Жыл бұрын

    for me it's barry & I agree with you

  • @thegameshowguy1

    @thegameshowguy1

    Жыл бұрын

    Mine too. The OG Flash.

  • @DragonHeart613

    @DragonHeart613

    Жыл бұрын

    Jay Garrick is bland. Always has been. He'll always come in dead last.

  • @wallyjackson9543

    @wallyjackson9543

    Жыл бұрын

    Jay will never be the best. He will always be the “one who walked so the rest can run”

  • @quentinfogger5755

    @quentinfogger5755

    Жыл бұрын

    Is Jay Garrick more popular in the CW Flash series since he's being played by John Wesley Shipp who played Barry Allen in the 90s Flash series? Who do you think should play him in the DCU?

  • @paorasimon4957
    @paorasimon4957 Жыл бұрын

    Wally West is my favorite Flash.

  • @prajjwaltiwari8644
    @prajjwaltiwari8644 Жыл бұрын

    Barry is the definition of what a superhero is. He's not only the best flash but one of the best superheroes. He's also someone Batman genuinely likes to work with.

  • @TonyAlexander-on4sy

    @TonyAlexander-on4sy

    Жыл бұрын

    Mid

  • @prajjwaltiwari8644

    @prajjwaltiwari8644

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TonyAlexander-on4sy what?

  • @keithtarnowski7328

    @keithtarnowski7328

    10 ай бұрын

    He also fucked up the entire universe because he’s selfish and created Flashpoint. Which was then later used to create the New 52. Barry isn’t a more well evolved character like this terrible video likes to say. He’s selfish. Wally knew years ago you don’t change the past. Barry STILL hasn’t learned that lesson.

  • @TonyAlexander-on4sy

    @TonyAlexander-on4sy

    10 ай бұрын

    @@prajjwaltiwari8644 like I said

  • @sorin-3510
    @sorin-3510 Жыл бұрын

    Barry didn't create the Speed Force. Would you people stop saying this? This was revealed in Geoff John's Flash Rebirth, but any other writer ignores it. The Speed Force comes from the Source Wall. It was created when the multiverse was born. Also, for me, the best Flash is Wally West, and it's not even close. He has a great personality (Barry didn't even have one during the Silver Age), amazing character development, and great relationships (Barry Allen, Nightwing, JLA, Teen Titans. He is a friend to all of them). Many Flash abilities and feats come from Wally. Like, speed stealing, infinite mass punch, outran instant teleportation, outran Death. Even the Speed Force was introduced during Wally's run as The Flash. And if Barry is the best Flash, why, in most adaptations, he has Wally's personality and some of his powers and feats?

  • @talentroller4413

    @talentroller4413

    Жыл бұрын

    nailed it to a tee

  • @badxhero2097

    @badxhero2097

    Жыл бұрын

    Wrong. The 2009 Issue of Flash that establishes that Barry created the speedforce came before the New 52 RETCON of the SpeedForce being a thing that always existed since the dawn of time. So, Arris is right. Why bother saying he's wrong if you know he's right? It's fine if you dislike that Barry was made into the reason for the Speedforce's existence. That's completely fine. We all have things we dislike about comics. Like how I have a distaste for what Bendis did to Jon Kent because he didn't want to write a superboy story. That doesn't mean that you should just ignore what happened during that comic even if it is decidedly stupid.

  • @talentroller4413

    @talentroller4413

    Жыл бұрын

    @@badxhero2097 yeah it was canon then but it is retconned out meaning it isn’t canon anymore

  • @sorin-3510

    @sorin-3510

    Жыл бұрын

    @@badxhero2097 It was retconned and any other writer ignored it anyway.

  • @noble5068
    @noble5068 Жыл бұрын

    I love Barry Allen Flash so much I keep forgetting he's not the Flash in JLA. I could watch a movie called "Wally West, I'm the Flash" and still think it was Barry the whole time.

  • @lewis3853

    @lewis3853

    Жыл бұрын

    Bruh, I didn’t find out until I was grown that as I watched JLA as a youngster I was watching Wally’s Flash. And taking a liking to his version of the character and not Barry’s. And since that, Barry still gets the favorite spot even though that’s one of the main reasons I like the Flash 😂.

  • @aidanjanemcintosh6919

    @aidanjanemcintosh6919

    11 ай бұрын

    For me though, born in early 90's I didn't even know who Barry was. Wally has been the flash years before I was born, and when they revived Barry I was already in my late teen and already 'grew up' from american comic books in general. So even until now it's kinda weird to see Barry as the main flash. But I heard that Wally's got the position back since last year or so.

  • @vullord666
    @vullord666 Жыл бұрын

    Wally. He’s the Flash I grew up with and really projects what I feel a hero should be. He’s compassionate, down to earth, and personable, but also willing to do what needs to be done. He doesn’t hesitate to put the needs of others above his own (and oh my new gods did I hate when DC did with him following flashpoint and rebirth). You know Wally West’s flash is the best when they’re taking his personality and feats and discoveries and giving them to Barry in adaptions (who was otherwise originally pretty boring). I also love Jay, but if we’re picking a Jay Garrick it has to be the new 52 Earth 2 version. The New 52 Earth 2 I thought was so well done and interesting. Its not really that I liked one Jay over the other but I do wish New 52 Earth 2 got some more acknowledgment. There’s also something so cool about his speed coming from merging with Mercury and not the speed force (so he’s essentially the god of speed and has the speed of mercury powers Shazam has).

  • @GodLucci
    @GodLucci Жыл бұрын

    Got here quicker than the flash so I’m the best flash

  • @paulpierre4895

    @paulpierre4895

    Жыл бұрын

    Barry

  • @risktakerghetto5280

    @risktakerghetto5280

    Жыл бұрын

    I Tried, But The Add Got Here First

  • @paulpierre4895

    @paulpierre4895

    Жыл бұрын

    Barry 😮

  • @stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369
    @stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 Жыл бұрын

    I preferred the old more heroic intro sound but this is alright, maybe have the second part not fade out and last a little longer

  • @keithtarnowski7328
    @keithtarnowski7328 Жыл бұрын

    Wally is the best Flash ever. He’s the best written Flash in the aggregate. That can’t be argued. Flash volume two in almost in it’s entirety is the best. That’s 247 issues plus annuals , specials , etc. he’s had the best writers. Waid, John’s, Messener Loeb, Morrison and Millar. (And now Adam’s) He’s also the most fleshed out Flash with an actual story arc. He’s grown and matured as a character. The opposite of what you said about Barry Allen. Since Barry’s been back he’s been mostly written terribly. He’s not the same hero he was before. They write him as an angsty kid. Wally was written poorly in Heroes in Crisis and Williamson’s run. That’s it. And that was allllll done because Barry was the lead Flash and Dan Didio hated Wally West. In fact if Dan wasn’t at DC Barry would have probably never come back and things would look very different now. Wally’s also just a more likable character. Through all of his changes. Young kid, young adult who’s a jerk and then husband and father. He’s funny. Self deprecating, goofy, noble and smart. Wally West is hands down the best Flash!

  • @Atomic_am

    @Atomic_am

    Жыл бұрын

    W

  • @Ramazu_123

    @Ramazu_123

    3 ай бұрын

    Imho*“You can’t argue with this,” the guy expressed his subjective opinion and also said that you can’t argue with this... Yes, you’re sick.

  • @Owlman_29
    @Owlman_2911 ай бұрын

    You need to read more comics, Barry did NOT create the Speedforce, and almost everything we know about the Flash was created when Wally West was the Flash.

  • @randomnigga-kun8471

    @randomnigga-kun8471

    4 күн бұрын

    Stupid

  • @TsubasaOfTheSword
    @TsubasaOfTheSword Жыл бұрын

    I think the best way to look at it is a Star Wars analogy. Barry is Anakin, Wally is legends Luke Skywalker, and Jay is Obi Wan Kenobi.

  • @jaredgarcia8638

    @jaredgarcia8638

    Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't barry be obi wan,, wally anakin and Jay Yoda/Qui Gon

  • @TsubasaOfTheSword

    @TsubasaOfTheSword

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaredgarcia8638 Fair point. I could definitely see Jay being closer to Yoda. 🤔

  • @josephk3296
    @josephk3296 Жыл бұрын

    Wally west portrayal on the animated justice league show is not doubt my personal favorite flash ever bro has the best personality 💯

  • @crowwithinternetservice
    @crowwithinternetservice Жыл бұрын

    Nah when talking about Wally you used multiple images of Bart's Flash... he should have been mentioned at least

  • @KurapikaStan
    @KurapikaStan Жыл бұрын

    I agree but it kinda sucks you didn’t even put Bart Allen as an option

  • @mechmaster315

    @mechmaster315

    Жыл бұрын

    He was only that title briefly cause no one wanted him

  • @dylanogg347
    @dylanogg347 Жыл бұрын

    Heroes In Crisis is a revolting cruel joke that tarnished poor Wally and so many others (Roy Harper, Lagoon Boy, The Protector, Joto / Hotspot, Booster Gold, and the list goes on)...

  • @FrostTheHobidon
    @FrostTheHobidon Жыл бұрын

    Jay Garrick, Barry Allen, and Wally West will always be my Top 3 favorites.

  • @uditfartyal
    @uditfartyal Жыл бұрын

    It's Barry Allen. Just kidding. It will always be the original Wally. Power or anything else.

  • @zachariahjonahmaldonado5897
    @zachariahjonahmaldonado5897 Жыл бұрын

    I just love Jay Garrick. The OG, older and wiser Flash. And that helmet is just so cool, so iconic.

  • @Comic_Jerm
    @Comic_Jerm Жыл бұрын

    Wally has the most iconic stories and has had the most growth over the years. He’s had speed since he was a child and he’s gone through probably the most natural progression of any hero in comics. He’s gone from sidekick, to hero, to husband, and finally father and has been able to dig himself out of the deepest hole any character ever. I don’t think it’s fair to hold HiC against Wally because it was later revealed to be things truly out of his control, plus that story is so poorly written. Also, while I agree Barry is very important to the Flash mythos, it’s his legacy rather than he himself that means the most. His most impactful moments are when he shows up those few times during Wally’s run as The Flash to give him a pep talk or just be in Wally’s corner when he needs it most. Hot take, but Barry Allen was a more meaningful character when he was dead.

  • @KylanWhittaker

    @KylanWhittaker

    Жыл бұрын

    Nothing is more iconic than Fashpoint

  • @WesleyB-Rook

    @WesleyB-Rook

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @Comic_Jerm

    @Comic_Jerm

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KylanWhittaker I’m not arguing Flashpoint is iconic. I don’t think it’s like THE FLASH story though. What other Barry stories can you name that are as iconic? For Wally, there’s tons. Dead Heat, Chain Lightning, Return of Barry Allen, etc. So many, in fact, they stole just about everyone of them from Wally and gave them to Barry for the show because other than Flashpoint, Flash: Rebirth 09, Barry just doesn’t have the record Wally does. Again, no hate on Barry, but for me Wally is THE Flash. He has the strongest connection to the Speed Force. He’s had the most character growth and development over his time as the Flash. Dude’s outran death and come back from Speed Valhalla after being told there’s no return because his connection to the people he loves brought him back. If Wally doesn’t embody what superhero comics are, then I don’t know who does.

  • @Comic_Jerm

    @Comic_Jerm

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WesleyB-Rook nobody rides the lightning like West! ⚡️

  • @prajjwaltiwari8644

    @prajjwaltiwari8644

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry??😂 Flash Rebirth, Crisis on infinite earths, the freaking FLASHPOINT???

  • @Akuzastar
    @Akuzastar Жыл бұрын

    Jay garrick. The only one who doesn't break the world/universe, everytime he gets upset.

  • @MajinLordVegeta

    @MajinLordVegeta

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s a good reason

  • @mr.culturefreedom2073

    @mr.culturefreedom2073

    Жыл бұрын

    👍🏿

  • @Thisissirknight
    @Thisissirknight Жыл бұрын

    Wally west on the justice league cartoons in the 2000s is my favorite flash for sure!

  • @Arthur-ex4yj
    @Arthur-ex4yj10 ай бұрын

    idk, I personally resonate and relate better to wally, and have enjoyed wally’s flash stories more than barry’s

  • @jbruning1291
    @jbruning1291 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe I'm playing devil's advocate, but with a character as pivotal and important as the Flash, I would make the argument that the point is moot: they're all just as important as the next. I couldn't imagine comics in general without any of these characters. I would say that they all deserve first place in the race to our hearts.

  • @DanteAlighieri612
    @DanteAlighieri612 Жыл бұрын

    Wally West for me is The Best Flash. Hope they did him justice again cause they just recently retconned them again.

  • @dasaiyantv8483
    @dasaiyantv8483 Жыл бұрын

    Wally West will always be the best Flash imho. Mark Waid and Geoff Johns run was the best.

  • @unsilencedchaos2112
    @unsilencedchaos2112 Жыл бұрын

    My favourite is probably Wally west. But arris. When’s the podcast coming back?!!??

  • @thenationaltimelyactionhou9328
    @thenationaltimelyactionhou9328 Жыл бұрын

    I was a kid in the 2000s so I think it's Wally!

  • @ianmason6867
    @ianmason6867 Жыл бұрын

    I've been a comic reader since 1979. I have followed many Flashes, but given his achievements and discoveries, WALLY is the best Flash at this time, the fastest, most seasoned, and most popular. The only reason at all the Barry had any resurgance is because he had parts of WALLY grafted on to him and the changes to his backstory-Wally and Jay never needed that.

  • @night6724

    @night6724

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah but Wally took elements from Barry. His costume, villains and occupation

  • @HELLO_KORO
    @HELLO_KORO Жыл бұрын

    I'll always love Wally, he's the only flirty comedic relief that didn't feel cringey

  • @andyquinn3996
    @andyquinn3996 Жыл бұрын

    Wally West, that's all I need to say.

  • @Atomic_am

    @Atomic_am

    Жыл бұрын

    W

  • @Cornyboa
    @Cornyboa Жыл бұрын

    i grew up with wally but i love barry more , i love his forensic skills, his intelligence, charm , resiliency, will power , his tragic backstory and how he gave birth to the speedforce

  • @parkerboy795

    @parkerboy795

    Жыл бұрын

    That retcon about Barry creating the Speed Force makes no sense though. It was established in Wally's run and it was pretty much a force that existed since the dawn of time. Not to mention, it's kind of been ignored since it was brought up.

  • @dakotatrue12

    @dakotatrue12

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@parkerboy795 eh, retcons like that happen all the time, I dont see a problem with it. I feel like Barry Allen is the definitive Flash, while Wally and Jay are still great characters.

  • @parkerboy795

    @parkerboy795

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dakotatrue12 The problem is that it doesn't really make sense. It was conceptualized after Barry died in the Crisis and it was pretty much shown to exist since time was a thing. I'm not going to try and for e you into thinking either of the Flashes are better than the others, but thay retcon was kind of pointless and seemed like the writers and editors were trying to hard to make Barry relevant again in the wrong way.

  • @matthewrosenthal753

    @matthewrosenthal753

    Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately Barry Allen’s tragic backstory is a retcon in and of itself and a completely stupid one. Go back to Barry Allen’s original story and you find that his parents were until a much later retcon to make Eobard Thawn something important, so they could justify constantly bringing him back, alive and well. Barry was a great Flash without that. Also the very common misconception of what happened to Barry after THE CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS : Barry became a part of the lightning bolt that made him the Flash, is a New 52 retcon because the publisher at the time hated legacy characters and tried to get rid of all of them save the Batfamily. What he actually did in 1985, was become a tachyon in the Lightning bolt that defied science and recreated his accident give Wally West his powers. Because the world needed the Flash. There is no best Flash, They all are in their own ways.

  • @9to5_
    @9to5_ Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I agree 💯% on this. Barry is the better Flash.

  • @darkshadowx9543

    @darkshadowx9543

    Жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @MonkeyDBatman

    @MonkeyDBatman

    Жыл бұрын

    No

  • @DragonHeart613

    @DragonHeart613

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MonkeyDBatman Yes.

  • @yash110496

    @yash110496

    Жыл бұрын

    No, you are

  • @quentinfogger5755

    @quentinfogger5755

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here. But Barry Allen called himself the Flash after Jay Garrick who was his idol but that changed in the CW Flash series

  • @spacepenguins8939
    @spacepenguins8939 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like people only like Barry for the Johns dead mother Retcon and then flashpoint, people don’t really talk about much else. His legacy as a dead hero was stronger (I mean the return of Barry Allen is all about Wally) And heroes in crisis is a bizarre thing to use against Wally, considering his family was essentially dead him being upset and needing some help isn’t a bad thing (and then the actual murders weren’t Wally but Savitar) Barry has also done bad things but doesn’t seem to held to the same account

  • @shaunr1996
    @shaunr1996 Жыл бұрын

    jay like the only flash that didint change the timeline

  • @chezgleason4372
    @chezgleason4372 Жыл бұрын

    Wally is without question the best variation of The Flash to ever exist. Rebirth and the television series made me research and respect Barry, but when I think of The Flash, Wally will always be first for me.

  • @ejherveyjax
    @ejherveyjax Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I think that if we were able to see pre-flashpoint continuity continue, it’d be interesting to see Bart Allen continue to develop and I truly think he could be a strong contender for the best flash. His potential was shown to be through the roof: he was intuitively doing things that even Wally wasn’t doing. His arc with the Teen Titans that transitioned him from Impulse to Kid Flash forced him to grow up and from that point he was portrayed as a very competent hero. With Wally and Barry’s mentorship, he could really be the next step above Wally in his prime

  • @kfgatri
    @kfgatri Жыл бұрын

    Wally is undoubtedly the best Flash. He's the one who discovered all additional powers that Barry is depicted with these days. He's the fastest, and he showed the most growth as a person in his tenure as the Scarlet Speedster. He went from a girl-crazy, unsure kid to a mature, confident, well-respected father of twins. I'm not going to go into the Heroes in Crisis because that was badly written and characterized Wally poorly. And it was revealed that Reverse Flash framed him for the deaths in that story. Not to mention realizing you need some therapy is a strength, not a weakness. Maybe if Barry went that route we wouldn't have multiple versions of Flashpoint ... Barry is disqualified because literally every modern version of Barry is depicted as wrecking the timeline of his particular universe. He was well-rounded, mature and inventive in the Silver Age, but his portrayal has regressed since then. So no, I can't agree that Barry is the best.

  • @Comic_Jerm

    @Comic_Jerm

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed on every point. He’s the one legacy character that’s been allowed to create a legacy of his own and have it last. Heroes in Crisis is a stain that’s thankfully being washed away right now!! Plus, Wally’s been successful in the one thing Peter Parker can’t be, true development and growth to the point where he can be married and have kids and he’s still relatable. I think if Waid were to finally do a run on Barry, it could be game changing for the character.

  • @theloganbush

    @theloganbush

    Жыл бұрын

    I think Wally and Barry are really really close, but to say you’re not gonna take into account a certain storyline because you don’t like the way it portrays the character is just wrong. If it’s in the comics, and hasn’t been ret conned, then it’s a part of the character. Even if you don’t like it, that’s how the character is made. I think Barry and Wally are pretty much the neck and neck for different reasons, I’ll put it this way though- well I still believe Barry is the best flash, Jay is the most underappreciated, and Wally is the flash that everyone forgets is just behind Barry. And in some particular situations could very easily become the better flash

  • @kfgatri

    @kfgatri

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theloganbush IIRC Heroes in Crisis has been officially retconned. The story still happened, but Reverse Flash framed Wally.

  • @mashedpotatoes77

    @mashedpotatoes77

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Comic_Jerm Everytime Waid writes Barry its a 10/10 banger. The Life Story of the Flash and Dark Crisis:Big Bang are instances that Waid can work wonders writing Barry.

  • @DficienC

    @DficienC

    Жыл бұрын

    Wally is forgotten by anyone who doesn't read comics. Barry is more well known as he is known by those who don't even read comics.

  • @leonardojuan92
    @leonardojuan92 Жыл бұрын

    while Wally is my favorite, Barry Is the definitive Flash because of his character.

  • @shybard
    @shybard Жыл бұрын

    Eobard Thawne (Reverse Flash) is my favorite Flash. However, I am willing to give an honorable mention to August Heart (Godspeed).

  • @LightspeedLad
    @LightspeedLad Жыл бұрын

    The photo used at 2:59 is from when Bart Allen was The Flash, not Wally.

  • @Ahglock
    @Ahglock Жыл бұрын

    Wally is the flash who was around when they broke their own power scaling.

  • @caidenarmstrong1516
    @caidenarmstrong1516 Жыл бұрын

    And could you make a video about the new timeline and stuff on the flash series when savitar came and stuff

  • @Isaacisaperson4677
    @Isaacisaperson4677 Жыл бұрын

    Wally West will always be the best Flash

  • @kylecarter1599
    @kylecarter1599 Жыл бұрын

    Yall be sleepin on my man Max Mercury. And Wally didn't kill anyone in Heroes In Crisis. That's been retconned to where those he "killed" went to Timepoint and have renamed it Flash World.

  • @firesnakex8

    @firesnakex8

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah for a comics channel, they really aren't up to date with comics.

  • @talentroller4413

    @talentroller4413

    Жыл бұрын

    @@firesnakex8 evidently coz they still think barry created the speed force. that has been out of canon for many years now

  • @marcosjr583
    @marcosjr583 Жыл бұрын

    Wally West

  • @CAPTSCRU33Y
    @CAPTSCRU33Y Жыл бұрын

    From a superhero team perspective, Wally is the best, because when you have a group of relatively serious-minded individuals on a team like the Justice League, you need to balance out the group psychology with a funny guy. Granted, Barry can be a funny guy, but Wally is more efficient in that regard, cause he can be a real buffoon sometimes, but it's because of that buffoonery that makes him very human in contrast to most DC Superheroes, or Superheroes in general. As for the Heroes in Crisis storyline? Don't get me started. Tom King was most likely acting as an Avatar writer for Dan Didio's supposed distaste for Wally West.

  • @DficienC

    @DficienC

    Жыл бұрын

    Plastic Man? You want a buffoon, you got one, and one who could probably beat the flash.

  • @CAPTSCRU33Y

    @CAPTSCRU33Y

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DficienC Yeah, I thought about him too. He would be more suitable for a Campy version of the Justice League.

  • @BlueBeetle1939
    @BlueBeetle1939 Жыл бұрын

    The answer is wally west

  • @TwoToneShoes
    @TwoToneShoes Жыл бұрын

    Using Heroes in Crisis to shit on Wally as a hero is like pointing out Barry committed mass genocide with Flashpoint. What an L take.

  • @talentroller4413

    @talentroller4413

    Жыл бұрын

    arris is a barry fanboy so expected no less. dude didn’t even mention the retcon they did to undo wally in hic

  • @CagedPhoenixThe1st
    @CagedPhoenixThe1st Жыл бұрын

    I didn't know Jay Garrick was the very first flash. I've always thought he was made after Barry Allen, but comically the first flash.

  • @abrown1970
    @abrown1970 Жыл бұрын

    Wally 🎉

  • @เพื่อนหนุนใจSupportivePal
    @เพื่อนหนุนใจSupportivePal Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful Content. Thank You for sharing.

  • @gppf2010
    @gppf2010 Жыл бұрын

    For those who think Barry is the best, I ask: how many Wally stories have you ever read? Do you have some knowledge about his Classic runs? Or do you know the Flash Just by the TV series and recent comic books?

  • @TreFKennedy
    @TreFKennedy Жыл бұрын

    Wally west is the best flash, no cap

  • @QuietComics
    @QuietComics Жыл бұрын

    The person I would have chosen as #3 would have been Max Mercury. He's the one who opened Wally's eyes in what he needed to overcome in order to have the speed to beat The Reverse Flash (#73-79) and he taught Impulse after Wally first fixed Impulse's speed. He's the Zen Master of the Speed Force.

  • @lockhartlucis
    @lockhartlucis Жыл бұрын

    New intro ? 🤧all good things come to an end ....love flash videos always

  • @woodywoodduhman1506
    @woodywoodduhman1506 Жыл бұрын

    Which Green Lantern is the best?

  • @c4hamster

    @c4hamster

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd have to say its Hal Jordan. He's been the most important lantern at least. Kyle Rayner as a close second.

  • @nathanielwoods664

    @nathanielwoods664

    Жыл бұрын

    John Stewart

  • @josephsmith886
    @josephsmith886 Жыл бұрын

    Wally, hands down!

  • @cierangallagher
    @cierangallagher Жыл бұрын

    Wally will always be my favourite

  • @phantom3146
    @phantom3146 Жыл бұрын

    3:01 That photo is Bart Allen as The Flash , he should also make the list next time

  • @Revittize
    @Revittize Жыл бұрын

    I like Wally, Jay seems much more rounded, and I hate and I mean hate how DC writers have made Berry the creator of the Speed force. The Speed force didn’t come to be till Wally’s era. And I’ve always felt like it was a primordial force of nature not something created by Berry

  • @JunTekuTheEngima
    @JunTekuTheEngima5 ай бұрын

    I think what it is, is that wally barely was seen or even mentioned by name with his mask off in the justice league tv shows, which is were alot of us found are love for the flash character. With movies and tv shows causally mention Barry Allen by name as The Flash such as "Catch me if you can" or even those that seen the 90s Flash show, barry Allen became the most recognizable name associated with The Flash for those that didn't read the comics in that period of time. By the time of the 2010s, barry had already came back to life and started appearing more and more in media such as the comics, injustice games, lego batman games,movies, and even tv shows- making a whole new generation of people that only know Barry allen as the Flash, not knowing how much Wally west brought to the flash character and unfortunately I seem to kinda fall in that same crowd being a 05 baby and all.

  • @gmoney4980
    @gmoney4980 Жыл бұрын

    But why then did DC incorporate more of Wally when representing Barry in live action? Wally may edge it out as the best..

  • @WolfgangHandley
    @WolfgangHandley Жыл бұрын

    Yeah someone else pointed it out but the kid flash image used at 2:35 talking about Wally, is literally from Bart Allen revealing his transition from impulse to kid flash during his time in Teen Titans. Plus Bart has canonically been the flash. Just saying, you guys are usually factually more reliable and do characters proper justice.

  • @michaelphillips5424

    @michaelphillips5424

    Жыл бұрын

    There's also a shot of the cover from The Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #1 - that isn't Wally either. It's Bart. :)

  • @nicosilver5439
    @nicosilver5439 Жыл бұрын

    Wally is the best speedster I grew up with him and he is my favorite superhero

  • @quentinfogger5755
    @quentinfogger5755 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do history of Alfred Pennyworth, Batwing, Flame Bird, Batwoman, Azrael, Signal(Duke Thomas), Bluebird, Stephanie Brown and Carrie Kelly?

  • @CommanderSteelTrap
    @CommanderSteelTrap Жыл бұрын

    Given Barry is my favourite Superhero ever, I accept this outcome.

  • @jonteau7722
    @jonteau7722 Жыл бұрын

    Wally West 🔥🔥

  • @DragonZord979
    @DragonZord979 Жыл бұрын

    Wally is the 🐐 no 🧢. I respect your opinion though. Barry is also a great Flash in his own right. Imo when it comes to Barry vs Wally, it's just a matter of preference for the most part

  • @CaffeinatedWolfe
    @CaffeinatedWolfe Жыл бұрын

    Good video, but HARD disagree. I will always put respect on both Jay and Barry's names, but Wally proved himself to be the best Flash across both Waid's and Johns' runs. No one even acknowledges Heroes in Crisis anymore (if they ever did), as it was completely out of pocket and even current DC realized it was so bad that they retconned it twice in one year. So using that as a mark against him is the wrong call in my opinion. As a side note, you used a lot of Bart Allen Kid Flash and Flash artwork during the Wally section... Why does everyone do this...? 😑

  • @kfgatri

    @kfgatri

    Жыл бұрын

    If we have to count HiC against Wally, then Barry reprogramming the Top into a hero in the Identity Crisis tie-in also needs to count. Since both actions are OOC for their respective heroes, I say disregard both.

  • @CaffeinatedWolfe

    @CaffeinatedWolfe

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kfgatri exactly. Chalk it up to poorly written stories by writers who didn't understand (or care to) the characters.

  • @ishbuelbrooks4621
    @ishbuelbrooks4621 Жыл бұрын

    Wally had the best stories!

  • @ronnienambo4124
    @ronnienambo4124 Жыл бұрын

    Nice new intro music Arris

  • @IchabodNyx
    @IchabodNyx Жыл бұрын

    Barry Allen is to the Flash Family, as Bruce Wayne is to the Bat Family. Of course he's the best. Which Batman is the Best Batman? Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, or Terrence McGinnis?

  • @talentroller4413

    @talentroller4413

    Жыл бұрын

    not the same. wally was the leader of the flash family and the main flash for 23 years. well into his years most people forgot about barry. only till flash rebirth was he relevant again. dick was only batman for 4 years and terry is future batman not present so he isn’t part if this convo

  • @rashidhasanrafi
    @rashidhasanrafi Жыл бұрын

    Sick intro music

  • @official_jasongrace
    @official_jasongrace Жыл бұрын

    Can you make a vid on who’s the best Green Lantern???

  • @quentinfogger5755
    @quentinfogger5755 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do history of the characters mentioned in this video?

  • @jingleballs9935
    @jingleballs9935 Жыл бұрын

    Wally beats Barry’s a$$ always so that’s why he’s the best.

  • @Hydroxis45
    @Hydroxis45 Жыл бұрын

    Tl;dw - My educated guess is Wally. I mean, the man is LITERALLY in tune with the Speed Force.

  • @MonkeyDBatman
    @MonkeyDBatman Жыл бұрын

    This video is so odd. You use several images of Bart Allen for Wally. You only really use images of Wally's rebirth suit which is telling. You get so much information wrong, Barry did not create the speedforce that was a retcon from 2009 that was immediately ignored and retconned by Williamson. You say Barry introduced the most aspects of The Flash which is straight up wrong. You reference heros in crisis which is hated and ISN'T VALID ANYMORE because every aspect of it was retconned even the deaths of those characters. This video is clearly biased and just wrong.

  • @evansadams8838
    @evansadams883810 ай бұрын

    Hi Aries, Ive seen a panel that shows that Thawn is even faster than Walley and the only reason he loses to barry is cos because he never wants to beat his idol/hero.

  • @dirtydabsandwich7235
    @dirtydabsandwich7235 Жыл бұрын

    Obviously it’s Wally

  • @legomaker1423
    @legomaker1423 Жыл бұрын

    I remember before Barry Allen's Flash Jay Garrick was my favorite when I was really young because I was a huge fan of that helmet he wears and he still is

  • @JKH133
    @JKH133 Жыл бұрын

    I’d love a video on the Speed Force

  • @MonkeyDBatman
    @MonkeyDBatman Жыл бұрын

    Its Wally. I cannot understand how y'all see Barry as the best. He was fairly one note for most his original time as Flash then he died then Wally became The Flash, introduced the speedforce and Flash family and was actually interesting. Then Barry came back, was made more like Wally, stole his suit and stories and even villians. Its Wally.

  • @vonnysluggz2360

    @vonnysluggz2360

    Жыл бұрын

    U spoke nothing but facts sir

  • @yatoosamu6190

    @yatoosamu6190

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea your right I'm not gonna lie

  • @BardiaOmega

    @BardiaOmega

    Жыл бұрын

    Remind me again, Barry was introduced before wally right, if Barry first dawned the costume and has been playing the hero part long before wally how in tf is that stealing?

  • @MonkeyDBatman

    @MonkeyDBatman

    Жыл бұрын

    @BardiaOmega Barry wore a different suit that Wally altered to suit his character, Barry came back and stole his designs. Barry had like a couple issues by himself before Wally was introduced. Then he died for over 25 years so I'd say Wally has been a hero much longer.

  • @mr_brazypitts5584
    @mr_brazypitts5584 Жыл бұрын

    want you to do a wally west an Bart Allen all powers and abilities vid

  • @martinbauzon7450
    @martinbauzon7450 Жыл бұрын

    Keemstar: I’m fast asf boi

  • @hermesnoel
    @hermesnoel Жыл бұрын

    Wally is the one true Flash. Geoff Johns should have left Barry dead.

  • @wildermidnight
    @wildermidnight8 ай бұрын

    Always going to be Wally for me. Kid Flash was my favorite character growing up. Don't really know why. I think I liked his costume more than anything else. Watching Wally grow from reluctant/failing hero to unlikeable jerk to the best Flash ever was a treat. I hate everything done to the character over the past fifteen years.

  • @fatmont588
    @fatmont588 Жыл бұрын

    Best Flash in my opinion is Barry but the fastest Flash is Wally

  • @quentinfogger5755
    @quentinfogger5755 Жыл бұрын

    Would it be awesome if we saw a competition between Jay Garrick, Barry Allen and Wally West on the Big Screen or TV Shows to see which Flash is the best?

  • @kryptonsworld4530
    @kryptonsworld4530 Жыл бұрын

    Wally is the best flash Wally is so awesome as a flash that when they got rid of him and did rebirth to barry it just gave all his awesome traits to Barry Wally West baby

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