The DCU Needs Wally West to be The Flash, Not Barry
The Flash Season 9 will end the Arrowverse, The Flash movie will end the DCEU... with Barry Allen bringing the end of the two primary live action DC universes of the 2010s and early 2020s, I believe it's time for the second Barry Allen era of The Flash which started in 2008 to come to an end and for the second Wally West era to begin again. The DCU Flash franchise should pass the torch back again from Barry to Wally and I have an idea for how to do it.
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00:00 - Intro
1:14 - Ezra Miller
1:58 - The Definitive Flash
3:02 - Wally West History
4:35 - Barry Vs Wally
5:56 - Wally West evidence
7:52 - DCU Flash Movie Story
9:38 - DCU Flash Movie Title
10:31 - DCU Flash Movie Characters
11:16 - DCU Flash Movie Costumes
13:20 - DCU Flash Movie Casting
14:17 - Legacy
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I just hope that we get a Flash actor that isn’t crazy like Ezra Miller and writers that aren’t incompetent like Eric Wallace
@jland0609
Жыл бұрын
Comment should be pinned
@ccelite3782
Жыл бұрын
His name is Grant Gustin.
@LeRodz
Жыл бұрын
@@ccelite3782 They're talking about the showrunner probably.
@Dhruv-qw7jf
Жыл бұрын
@@ccelite3782 read the comment again lol
@ez6888
Жыл бұрын
Idk who Eric Wallace is but I agree on Ezra, he was never a good casting choice for the Flash (any of the flashes) in the first place
Here’s another movie idea to consider to incorporate Wally West: Flash movie 1: the Origin Story of Wally West. He’s a High School Teen who becomes Kid Flash and Barry’s partner. New Justice League movie: Wally is now entering college. Barry cocreates The Justice League, but sacrificed his life to save the world. The film ends with Wally taking up the mantle of the Flash Flash movie 2: A semi-adaptation of “Return of Barry Allen”. Wally cements himself as The Flash
This channel is amazing. You always have good takes and good reasoning behind them that you explain in a very satisfying way. Keep up the good work!
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@l8studios_
Жыл бұрын
Sup
@oofiethetroll2059
Жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect to see you here lol
My favourite Flash growing up has always been Wally West and when the DCU begins to take shape, i would be in favour of casting an unknown actor in the role to fully start things fresh. I never cared for Ezra Miller even before his troubles began, Grant Gustin will always be the definitive Barry Allen but i'm more than ready to see someone new in the spotlight and Wally West is the perfect guy going forward. I am interested to see what happens in the aftermath of the reboot.
@ninjacat4401
Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna agree
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
No, Barry Allen should remain in the spotlight as The Flash. Wally West should just his own superhero codename. That way we can get the best of both worlds and everyone will get what they want.
Replace Ezra Miller with a new actor. That's what the DCU should do
@ahmadmohammed4212
Жыл бұрын
Lucas till for the DCU version of the flash
@damienphelps2824
Жыл бұрын
I agree and we should definitely have Barry Allen and wally west in the dcu
@marciofilho2137
Жыл бұрын
@@ahmadmohammed4212 Lucas Till if they keep the focus on Barry and George MacKay if they decided to go with Wally.
@biguy617
Жыл бұрын
But they won’t so I say boycott Flash movies until they do
@MoviesTubeYou0675
Жыл бұрын
Replace with Lucas Till
I think Barry should at least cameo or get a name drop as he plays a role in Wally's Flash origins.
@Haiden.Ambrose
Жыл бұрын
id rather they just do the jlu route and just say wallys the flash and always has been
@ander9917
Жыл бұрын
Imagine him and Jay Garrick showing up for a No way home style film but just with time travel
@markjohnstone413
Жыл бұрын
@@Haiden.Ambrose Barry canonically was the flash before Wally in that universe he was in the canon comics and was going to appear in the show and what JLU did only worked due to them keeping Wally far less developed than every other character on the show and they were only able to do that because it’s a team up show so Wally wasn’t the main focus. Taking the JLU approach would me no solo movies for Wally, limited rolls in team up movies to prevent heavy character development and erasing his time has kid flash, his idolisation of Barry and his reaction to Barry’s death and legacy which are all MASSIVE parts of who Wally is. If we don’t see him as kid flash, see Barry, learn why Wally idolises him so much and see Barry’s death then we 1. Have 0 reason to care and 2. The Wally we get will just be a poorly done husk if the loved character
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@markjohnstone413 JL The Animated Series also did what JLU did with Wally West's character.
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@markjohnstone413 What both JL and JLU did didn't work at all and that is a flaw that both those shows have. What those shows did was a huge mistake, but those shows are still good though.
I think it’s way less impactful having Wally as the flash if we don’t literally see Barry die and his progression from Kid Flash. I’m saying do it. He’s my favourite too, but I don’t want him to be Barry Allen re skinned. Ngl your pitch is amazing though..
They need to just recast Barry. Wally’s entire origin heavily features Barry and there is just way too much there to only reference it there in a few lines and some flashbacks. We need to actually see it. If they just jump to Wally we’ll just get some husk of a character with the name Wally West slapped on. I think most people who are saying ‘Just use Wally’ are letting their love for the character and desire to see him in live action get in the way of thinking about the story of the character and getting it right. I don’t want some empty husk called Wally. I want Wally. The only way to do that is to get Barry right first
@willsherman4044
Ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying. But I think both flashes are really great.
I’m mixed on these thoughts. I would like to see Wally. However, I’d rather they build to him. We get a new Flash actor as Barry, do a few movies with them, introduce Wally, and then have him take over the mantle in their phase 2/3.
@zemox2534
Жыл бұрын
Do you really think Flash fabs would wait that long before Wally takes the mantle? Look how long they had to wait before Wally took the damn mantle back from Barry after HIC
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Or better yet, keep Barry Allen as the main flash of this new dc universe and have Wally West get a new superhero codename. And don't have Wally West take up the mantle in their phase 2/3 and if they do need to have someone take the mantle of The Flash (which I hope they don't, because I don't Barry Allen to be replaced as The Flash), then it shouldn't be Wally West, Impulse, or any of the other members in The Flash Family, have it be an original character or a new character that gets created one day in the comics.
@Supl3xcity
Жыл бұрын
@@zemox2534 me personally, I would wait. I love both Barry and Wally. But I don't speak for everyone.
@blixyy7072
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 nope
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@blixyy7072 Yes
Honestly as Much as I would love Wally West to be the Flash as a Passing to the Touch on the Legacy, I Don’t Believe it’s a Good Idea to Kill Off Barry Allen just Yet in the Movie Universe,Just Recast Ezra Miller and Focus of the World and Villains before Wally Replaces Barry.
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Or better yet, don't have Wally West be The Flash as a Passing to the Torch. Just keep Barry Allen as the main Flash in this new dc universe and have Wally West get a superhero codename of his own.
@blixyy7072
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 nope
@christianpain7380
Жыл бұрын
@@blixyy7072 yes it's better that way
I actually wanted him to be the flash of the new universe glad someone agrees with me also I want the ginger one not the black one and I’m not being racist I just like the ginger ones personality better
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
That's not going to happen. Barry Allen will be The Flash of this new DCU and Wally West is going to get his own superhero name.
Eric Wallace: -"Just hand it over to me". *Laughs in Sith Lord*.
I’m ready to see Redhead Wally West as The Flash again, he’s the one I grew up with. They can bring Barry back for his standalone movies (maybe even to team up from time to time)!
I think we should introduce an older Barry and Wally in a film and Barry Allen would either die at the end of that film or a first Justice League film so Wally West would have to learn what he couldn't with Barry. Reverse Flash is the main villain. I think 'The Flash Forever' is a cool name that also kinda fits this story
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
No, Barry Allen should remain the main Flash and Wally West should get a new superhero codename.
Who is the definitive version of The Flash? Why is this even a question? It's clearly Wally West. During the Pre-Crisis era, Barry was so boring people stopped buying his comics, so DC killed him and replaced him with Wally. Wally's time as the Flash is when the character became popular and people started to love it. The Flash Family, The Rogues, The Speed Force, time travel (without cosmic treadmill), infinite mass punch, speed stealing, Flash being funny and a bit immature at first. All of these come from Wally. The most important things about Flash come from Wally, and as I said, the character became popular because of Wally. Without him, The Flash could've been a forgotten character or remained dead forever. And there are stories like Human Race, The Return of Barry Allen, The Rogue, Terminal Velocity, etc. What does Barry have? Flash Rebirth and Flashpoint? "Without Barry, Wally wouldn't have existed. " Without Wally the Flash as we know it today wouldn't have existed Just because Barry stole some traits of Wally's personality and powers (especially in New 52 and some adaptations) doesn't mean Barry is better than Wally or that he's the definitive Flash
@Kalel2.0
2 ай бұрын
For a lot of the general audience Barry Allen is the definitive and most recognizable Flash especially younger fans and I love Wally but his backstory entirely depends on Barry's time as The Flash and Wally did take a couple of Barry's traits and vice versa.
@dj2k460
22 күн бұрын
For me I’m more invested in the Barry Allen because of his rivalry with Reverse Flash. I’m sorry but when I think of Reverse Flash I think of Barry Allen’s Flash. I’m not saying you can’t have Wally but you can’t just ignore Barry and pretend he doesn’t exist, because it’s the same way people complain about Miles Morales being spider-man with Peter around yet no one complains about Wally replacing Barry
Ezra has to play Reverse Flash, he has the villainous nature
If I had to admit I didn't want Wally west to be the main flash of the DCU I just want Barry Allen as the flash
@jxlennn
Жыл бұрын
We could just have two of them co-exist
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@jxlennn That would be a really bad idea and it just wouldn't work at all. But we can have one of them have their own codename though and hopefully we will get that.
@oldchannel3659
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 It worked in Rebirth
Barry Allen or Wally West; which Flash would you rather the focus in the DCU?
@ahmadmohammed4212
Жыл бұрын
Both
@Bruhcuh982
Жыл бұрын
Imo if we’re late into the universe, like Damian is robin, Wally should be flash. None of the og teen titans should be sixekicks anymore. Neither should the impulse, superboy, Tim Drake, cassandra sandsmark, generation. We’re on the Jon Kent, Yara Flor, ace west generation
@Bruhcuh982
Жыл бұрын
Which, personally, if I were James Gunn, I would focus on the second sidekick generation. Tim Drake is robin, etc, ect
@kaisa8204
Жыл бұрын
Wally
Even though I do love Wally more than Barry, however I still think Barry has potential as a big screen protagonist as well as to truly show that uncle and nephew dynamic that Waally and Barry have as partners as The Flash and Kid Flash.
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Wally West still deserves a movie of his own and he needs to stop being Kid Flash at some point in this new dc universe, so they should have Wally West get a new superhero codename for himself. That way he can finally become his own man and get his own series of movies.
@bernardo6844
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 No Wally is the Flash, cope, and by your own retarded logic Barry should change his name too because he is the second flash, Jay garrick is the First .
@blixyy7072
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 nope
Should definitely keep Barry
Since Damian Wayne and the Batfamily are confirmed to exist. There’s no reason the other heroes’s sidekicks can’t be established already. Basically make Wally the Flash. It’s so simple, just say Barry died in a crisis event and bam…Wally’s gotta continue the legacy
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
No, Barry Allen should remain the main flash, and Wally West should get his own superhero codename.
@wesstewart2677
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 nah. Wally is a better flash than Barry could ever be. Also Barry is not as interesting. Don’t believe me? Then why is it that both of Grant Gustin and Ezra Miller’s versions of Barry take heavily from Wally West as Flash over Barry Allen? The concept of the “speed force” didn’t even exist until Wally was flash.
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@wesstewart2677 No, Barry Allen should remain the main flash, and Wally West should get his own superhero codename.
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
They shouldn't make Wally West The Flash, unless it's temporarily and Wally West shouldn't continue the legacy.
@oldchannel3659
Жыл бұрын
Or kill Ezra in Flashpoint and have that be the explanation for Wally
You've nailed it man, this would be absolutely incredible. While Barry will always be my favorite Flash, Wally has such a rich history and is easily his own unique character. I'd love to see him become the Flash eventually.
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
He shouldn't be the main flash of the new DCU, if that does happen, it should only be temporarily. Wally West should get his own superhero codename and Barry Allen should be the main flash of this new DCU.
I respectfully disagree very much. Barry Allen is THE Flash & nobody else. Jay Garrick is the JSA Version of the Flash from Earth 2, but Barry Allen defined the Flash as we know the character with the creation of the Speedforce. Though he is the 2nd Version of the Character in comic canon, he is the real origin of the Flash character as we now know & love him.
@TheBlackLion001
Жыл бұрын
He only created the speed force retroactively, it was in Wally West's run that the speed force as a concept was created.
@talentroller4413
Жыл бұрын
creation of speedofrce is no longer canon. he’s a conduit like everyone else now
Now I really wanted to Wally West to be the DCU Flash but based on the DCAU one but with no white eyes
After binge-watching the JL animated series & watching TroyoBoyo17's Flash Prewrite video, I've come to grow a liking to Wally over Barry. Mainly because he has so much potential, and his DC Rebirth design is FUCKING AWESOME & I NEED to see that suit in a movie!
What you just said about legacy and time going on. Is exactly why I gave this video a like and why I'm staying subscribed forever. 💯 most people just don't seem to understand that. That's why I was a fan a young justice the earlier seasons were superior obviously. And why I wished shows like avengers earth's mightiest heroes would have continued. It's marvel I know but still. I definitely like how btas universe transitioned through time to the batman beyond Era. I always read comics that progress through time. Typically not the main continuity timeliness. They repeat over and over again with either rehashed stories. Or ridiculous ones
I'm kind of mixed with the suits. I kind of want Wally's Rebirth Suit to be the final definitive version of his own suit. Showing, that he's no longer living in his mentors shadow, and showing that he's become the fastest Flash out of all The Flash's while showing off that white lightning with a tint of cyan in it, showing he has the strongest connection to the speed force despite his mentor being the person that generates the speed force.
@talentroller4413
Жыл бұрын
his rebirth suit would be great if it had a full cowl than the head cut. the head cut just gives too much kid flash vibes
@Velocity_YT
Жыл бұрын
@@talentroller4413 Impulse and Avery Ho have their head out and I don't see anyone saying anything about that.
@talentroller4413
Жыл бұрын
@@Velocity_YT because that was the design they always had and they are kids. wally started off as kid flash and isn’t a kid anymore and literally wore the main flash costume for 25 years before the new 52 happened. him having that look still gives 50% kid flash vibes and he’s well and truly grown out of that role
@Velocity_YT
Жыл бұрын
@@talentroller4413 I'm pretty sure Avery Ho is an adult.
@talentroller4413
Жыл бұрын
@@Velocity_YT really looks like a kid to me and all i can see is she’s a student but don’t know how old
It'd be cool to show that Barry and Wally are able to use the Speed Force in different ways. Maybe Barry is the only one able to use it to time travel, whilst Wally can use it to generate physical matter like lightning or his Flash suit. It would help to show how these are two different characters, whilst also going toward developing Wally's sense of self.
Barry should be the main flash in DCU for a while before introducing Wally west
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
And they should get Wally West a new superhero codename.
@ishaanbhattacharya9405
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 facts
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
I take that back, they should introduce Wally West right away, that's what they're doing with Nightwing, Troia, Tempest, and Roy Harper. And they should also give Wally West his own superhero codename.
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@ishaanbhattacharya9405 Thank You!!!!!!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Poor Wally. Just when he decided to leave forever his hero identity in order to be just a normal boy who has grades and a beautiful girl like Frances, Destiny forces him to become the new Flash.. "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"
Give me red hair Wally West yes the red hair is important
"The Barry Allen era of The Flash" won't ever end.
@1993digifan
5 ай бұрын
If that's true why is Wally the headliner of the comic series again?
@abiodunsulaiman2297
15 күн бұрын
It's over, let it go bruh
Don’t start with Wally build him up as Kid Flash so his character actually matters 😂. EDIT: your film pitch is actually sick though ngl 😂.
Step 1: Get rid of Ezra Miller. Step 2: Save Reverse Flash for the Third Film. Step 3: Keep the focus on Barry, it's his story not the side characters. Step 4: Make Barry smart and make it so he knows how to use his powers properly. Film 1: Barry vs Cobalt Blue or Godspeed Film 2: Barry vs The Rouges (Captain Cold, Heatwave, Mirror Master, The Trickster and Weather Wizard) Film 3: Reverse Flash
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
You forgot Step 5: Don't stupidly replace speedsters and actual Flash characters from the comics that we want to see with characters that not only aren't speedsters, but are also not actual Flash characters from the comics. And you also forgot Step 6: Give Wally West and Avery Hoe new superhero codenames and give Wally West a completely new costume with a cape and googles.
@StephenLeGresley
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 I'm guessing your rant is about the TV show?
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@StephenLeGresley Yes and that was one of the show's biggest problems that unfortunately almost no one talks about, but a little of it is about the codename they gave Avery Hoe in the comics and the fact that they stupidly haven't given Wally West his own superhero codename.
@talentroller4413
Жыл бұрын
wally west isn’t a side character. he was the main flash for two and a half decades where barry became history by that point until he got stupidly brought back
@StephenLeGresley
Жыл бұрын
@@talentroller4413 In the TV show he IS a side character though as anyone who isn't the main protagonist is. They could give Wally his own show at some point though.
Barry Allen should remain the main flash and Wally West can just get a new superhero codename both in the comics and in this new dc universe.
@1993digifan
5 ай бұрын
How about BARRY change his codename after all he stole it from Jay!
Grant should at least cameo as just a regular civilian that Wally saves in a future Flash movie just like what Star Wars does since Mando season 1 with voice actors having background cameos in episodes.
@fizzgojii8192
Жыл бұрын
Grant could have lied
@jxlennn
Жыл бұрын
Y’all gotta get off grants meat bruh. He doesn’t even look like the character and people want a comic accurate Flash. Grant already been the flash for almost a decade
@thomasbennett0
Жыл бұрын
@@jxlennn It's just an idea and I am not suggesting that he plays DCU Barry Allen. Sure maybe whoever he plays could be called Barry but not Barry Allen.
@fizzgojii8192
Жыл бұрын
@@jxlennn he plays the character well though although he doesn’t look like Barry Allen from the comics
@jxlennn
Жыл бұрын
@@fizzgojii8192 he actually doesnt, he's just the only decent one we have because all the other adaptations of barry allen suck
KJ Apa should be Wally I know it's not an original idea but it's such good casting
@angels8920
11 ай бұрын
And Camila Mendes as Linda Park 👀
@KidFlash87
11 ай бұрын
@@angels8920 I never thought about that but yes that does work very well
I like your idea at the end where Wally starts with the yellow suit and then switches to Barry’s suit, with Barry coming back and taking his mantle and suit back and then Wally adopting a new suit (the red Rebirth one). And the Barry coming back can have a new actor playing him. I think that’s how they should do the movie.
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
I have a better idea. Keep Barry Allen as the main flash of this new dc universe and have Wally West get a new superhero codename.
@blixyy7072
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 nope
I want Barry to have a successful adaptation before Wally. It would be interesting to have Wally become the flash after being Kid Flash. The death of Barry Allen would be an insanely awesome story to adapt to the big screen. The example that comes to mind is how Sam Wilson is in the process of replacing Steve Rogers as Captain America. Except that Wally is one of the most interesting comic characters of all time while Sam Wilson is not (And I don't trust Marvel that much anymore, but I think the Sam Wilson cap movie could be pretty good). If the DCU does turn out well then having Wally West grow on people is the move instead of just replacing Barry when he's known by most people as the quintessential Flash.
I like your idea at the end where Wally starts with the yellow suit and then switches to Barry’s suit, with Barry coming back and taking his mantle and suit back and then Wally adopting a new suit (the red Rebirth one). And the Barry coming back can have a new actor playing him. I think that’s how they should do the movie. Because I am not for killing the character of Barry off. He still has so much more potential to be done right.
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Wally West shouldn't become The Flash in this new dc universe, unless it is temporarily, he should get his own codename .
@akilbrazier1421
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 That’s what I mean, I only want him to become Flash temporarily with Barry getting his mantle back. Then Wally getting a new suit just like in Rebirth with a new name like you said (two people going by The Flash is too confusing).
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@akilbrazier1421 Agreed
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@akilbrazier1421 Exactly
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@akilbrazier1421 Facts
I like how no one cares that Bart was also The Flash lol😂😂
@abiodunsulaiman2297
Ай бұрын
His 13 issue run as the flash was dookie.
There is no need to go the Wally/Jay/Wallace/Bart route, or to focus on any speedster besides Barry. Barry should be their primary Flash in the DCU. If they’re going to build up Wally (we know Dick is going to exist) then as a Titan his presence would be great. But not as THE Flash. Imo.
@jxlennn
Жыл бұрын
I agree. Maybe he could get the red and silver suit but he doesn’t need to take over the mantle, we could just have them both coexist
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
They should just keep Barry Allen as the main flash of this new dc universe and have Wally West get a new superhero codename.
THANK YOU!... Ezra Miller was COMPLETELY MISCAST as the Flash!!!... first of all, Barry is blonde in the comics and Ezra has zero resemblance to Barry Allen in the comics... _LITERALLY ZERO RESEMBLANCE WHATSO-FUCKING-EVER!!!_
@Raiders-qk8ld
Жыл бұрын
He doesn’t even act or portray like Barry Allen at all lol
@jaxamus13
Жыл бұрын
Grant gusting ain’t blond either
@Raiders-qk8ld
Жыл бұрын
@@jaxamus13 true but he did pitch the idea to dye his hair blonde but the show runner denied . Grant Atleast acts as Barry well tho
It would be idiotic for Gunn not to have Walley West as the DCU Flash
Wally needs to be the flash
They will probably just recast Ezra Miller, and it will just be Barry Allen
I want ginger wally west. Enough of the raceswapped ginger hate!
They just have to bring Wally as the main Flash and Daddy Zolomon as his arch nemesis just like in the comics🔥🔥🔥
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Hunter Zolomon
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
I mean, Hunter Zoloman, not Daddy Zolomon.
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
No, they just have to bring Barry Allen as the main Flash and give Wally West his own codename.
@SpeedDemon_Editzzz
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 I am Daddy Zolomon🗿
@SpeedDemon_Editzzz
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 codename of what? Wally West The Ragdoll of Zoom?🤣🔥
Joe Keery as Wally
Barry is the definitive Flash. Wally becomes the Flash after Barry dies or chooses to retire
Honestly I think they should start off with Barry as the flash, then introduce Wally as kid flash in Barry’s second movie (if he does get more) and then have Barry die around the end of the first saga. After this Wally could have his own solo film where he becomes the new flash
@oldchannel3659
Жыл бұрын
My problem with this is that Dick is likely already Nightwing by the time the universe starts. Dick and Wally are close friends in the Comics and I feel like that needs to carry over to the DCU.
@yeetboi5478
Жыл бұрын
@@oldchannel3659 agreed if it was up to me I would’ve made dick be robin by the times the first Batman movie comes out instead of robin being Damian wayne but still I really want both flashes to appear in the dcu
@oldchannel3659
Жыл бұрын
@@yeetboi5478 I would also like both Flashes to appear in the DCU, it's just gonna be really hard to work out the timeline of that to keep the relationships intact. Wally West still being Kid Flash as an adult doesn't really make sense, the Arrowverse was weird with that and Young Justice made a remark about that exact thing. Wally West also being The Flash alongside Barry feels clunky to me, it felt that way during Rebirth but less so because Wally WAS The Flash before Flashpoint so it makes sense that he would continue to be the Flash after he's saved by Barry remembering him. The best idea I've seen comes from Earth-27 where Wally becomes Impulse as an adult since that name isn't necessarily a name only a kid character could have. In the Earth-27, it basically goes Barry is the Flash, Wally is Impulse, Bart is Kid Flash bit one day Wally will be The Flash and Bart will be Impulse with whoever is next being Kid Flash. I think this could work but I feel it would still feel off. I think the way to fix this is to remember that the DCU is going to be more than movies and the non-film or live action show stuff doesn't necessarily NEED to be in the same time as release. So, we could get canon animated content in the DCU that could be prequels and we could see Barry's journey in maybe a mini-series or an animated short but I'm just spitballing at this point.
@yeetboi5478
Жыл бұрын
@@oldchannel3659 love that idea, easily the best I’ve seen considering what little we have to go of off with the new dcu
love the video but my fav flash is barry and or jay so i would want to see more barry in the dceu and he only has 1 movie
Iris could be half white half black, if they wanna keep both Wallace West and Wally West
Michael Rosenbaum should reprise his role as the Flash.
@ninjacat4401
Жыл бұрын
No
@biguy617
Жыл бұрын
He voiced the Flash and that Wally not Barry. He did Barry once and felt more like Wally pretending to be Barry.
@Raiders-qk8ld
Жыл бұрын
Bro he’s 50
@jxlennn
Жыл бұрын
Hell no
@darthpelvis
Жыл бұрын
He was an excellent Lex Luthor, the guy from MoS was awful
I hope really hope Wally starts to get the respect he deserves. James has said the dcu will take inspiration from the dcau so hopefully he’ll go with Wally in the dcu. Barry Allen is kind of boring tbh and he’s shown time and time again to not work to well with audiences. The cw show started out hood but it’s gone down hill completely. He’s comics since he came back haven’t reached the heights of Wally’s run, and the only reason people are excited for his movie is because of the Batman who are in it.
Flashpoint and Flash rebirth is to dc what OMD is to Marvel. Barry Allen was a great comic book character without the traditional tragic backstory. Having the tragic backstory made the Barry Allen Character feel less likable and more close to Batman in terms of trauma in childhood. There was a reason why Barry was different from Bruce, but now Dc screwed that up for the worse. Wally West flash is the complete opposite of it all as long as dc editorial is not messing things up. Still, Wally had the wife, the kids, the respect that Barry should have had if not for his death. Nowadays, it is debatable given that Dc is slowly letting Barry get remarried again.
@thebirdofbludhaven8647
Жыл бұрын
Agree completely
I say either 1 they should just have the new universe where Barry wakes up played by grant gustin 2 option 1 but grant Barry Allen is in the background and Wally is the main flash but we still have grant Edit: and grant could be a mentor to Wally 3 just have Wally. 4 new Barry Allen that’s not grant, if they do this I want whoever plays him to not be like grant at all and be completely set apart otherwise it’ll feel like a rip off
@l8studios_
Жыл бұрын
I think Grant shouldn’t play Flash anymore as he had a min season to show for almost ten years and he deserves a rest
@Dannyboy31805
Жыл бұрын
@@l8studios_ he does and that’s why I have other options but if he was up to it it would be cool to see him on the big screen as flash. Especially since he’s around the age they said they’re looking for Batman and Superman to be
DCU should recast Ezra with a comic accurate actor, not Grant Gustin. He’s been the Flash for almost a decade, and looks NOTHING like the character. Just because you don’t know any actors doesn’t mean he has to be the flash AGAIN for the DCU.
James Gunn, Peter Safran, and the people working on this new DCU are just going to have Wally West get a superhero codename of his own.
@1993digifan
5 ай бұрын
Barry should get a new name as well. "Flash" belongs to Jay Garrick, he was first so the name is his property that Barry stole.
Ezra should be replaced with Grant Gustin.
The Black Lion: "I think Barry had his chance. It's Wally West's turn." Me: "What do you mean Barry had his chance and that it's Wally West's turn? Barry Allen will and should continue to be the main flash. Wally West shouldn't ever become The Flash in this new dc universe, unless it is temporarily, he should just a new superhero codename in this new dc universe, that's it."
@oldchannel3659
Жыл бұрын
What he means by Barry had his chance is that Barry was literally the main Flash of almost every adaptation of the character in past 2 decades. Let someone else be the Flash for a change, especially since almost every adaptation of Barry is literally just taking Wally's entire personality
As much as I love black Wally. We need the ginger Wally West.
I have to disagree with you, you can't just introduce Wally West without a legacy to replace, the character of Wally West is who he is by replacing the person he replaced and his path in surpassing that person.
Anybody know any good comics that show Wally west’s origin? How different is it from Barry Allen’s?
@sorin-3510
Жыл бұрын
He became Kid Flash because he was struck by the same type of lightning that struck Barry. Wally did it on purpose. He was a Flash fanboy and wanted to have the same powers. If you mean how he became Flash. Barry Allen died in Crisis On Infinite Earths, and Wally became his successor. Read Flash Vol. 2 (1987-2009). Some of the most important, most popular, and the best things about The Flas (in general, not just Wally) originate in this volume.
@Hadar360
Жыл бұрын
@@sorin-3510 thank you for this 🙏👍
@HypocriticalLies
11 ай бұрын
You can also read "Flash: Born to Run"
I hope DC heads watch this channel... I love this
Your reasoning for Barry having his time in the spotlight and saying he’s had his moment is like saying Henry Cavill had his moment
@talentroller4413
Жыл бұрын
except henry really got cut short. thats a fact, barry’s had way too much spotlight for someone who should be dead
I wonder which version, of WALLY WEST Flash, might be introduced in the (DC U.) movies?
I agree Black Lion. That decision do sound awesome but unfortunately that is not going to happen unless James says so otherwise. I mean anything can happen though so maybe after this movie James might go on that decision.
This is how i would do my wally west flash trilogy Movie 1:just like you sad Movie 2: gorila grodd is the main villain is about the inavansion of gorila city impulse comes from the futuro to help wally and we would have cameos from some villanos from the wally west era like magenta or tarpit Movie 3: would be about wally batel with zoom his on revese-flash
Let me set the record straight. Barry Allen is just the younger version of myself. Wally West is the current version of myself. The story in general involves many characters where a lot of them are representing me. I'm sorry that I'm so late to the show but I didn't even know that I was the Flash until I met the real life Iris. Then it helped me remember the other timeline future where I will be known as the Flash. My higher self (future self) contacted me to show me that I was the Flash which is the main first time that I realized that I was the real life Flash. After that, I went down that "rabbit hole" and the more I do that, the more connections are adding up. I found out who the other major superheroes really are. With great power comes great responsibility. Therefore, I will make the right decisions. I will respect their directions and will not reveal who they are. The only exception is if they publicly promote themselves as the superhero that they are. Then I will support them and tell people that they're who they say they are. Until then, it could be only me for a while as I pave the way to show how it's done. Also, Most of us get our powers from a positive energy solar event in late 2030. Some of us like me are so powerful that we have DNA activated abilities right now. Instead of entering the "speed force", my body physically vibrates when enemies are thinking about me or when I choose to mentally activate it.
Anthony star would make a great Eobard Thawn, maybe a good Barry Allen aswell
Why can’t we just have two flashes co-exist. Barry and Wally’s dynamic is very slept on and it’s very similar to Bruce and Grayson. Besides they’re both the flash right now in the comics, so why not just have two?
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
The answer to that question is extremely obvious, but I'll answer it. The reason we can't just have two flashes co-exist is, because it's incredibly dumb and it doesn't make any bloody sense. The idea of superheroes sharing a mantle is super stupid and it doesn't any bloody sense, it's also extremely lazy and extremely unnecessary, it's super bankrupt, it's terrible writing, and it's in fact one of the worst writings of all time. It wouldn't make any logical sense for the both of them to share the mantle. And it's also super unnecessary. The people that work on The Flash comics are unfortunately trying to pull this lazy, bankrupt nonsense off in The Flash comics and they've unfortunately tried to pull it off in the past too, but they've failed miserably and are failing miserably right now and will continue to fail miserably at trying to pull this stupid idea off, because it's simply a dumb idea and it's extremely mind baffling that they are trying to pull it off, because of how dumb it is and the fact that they are trying to pull it off is extremely dumb. If the people that work on the MCU tried to pull stupid thing off, they would fail miserably, simply because it's extremely stupid, it's extremely unnecessary, and it doesn't make any bloody sense. Ultimate Spiderman has it's problems, but at least it didn't make the same stupid mistake with Spiderman and Miles Morales. Tell me this, why is Wally West still The Flash, despite the fact that Barry Allen is back and does it make any logical sense? It made since, when Barry wasn't around, but now that he's back, why does Wally West still need to be The Flash?
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
We can't have two flashes co-exist, we shouldn't have two flashes co-exist, and we deserve way better than that and the same goes for Barry and Wally.
@sorin-3510
Жыл бұрын
@@trevturp6891 "Why is Wally West still The Flash?" Why do you keep asking that? I already answered your question. Because the most important, popular, and loved things about The Flash come from Wally. Barry was The Flash, and people found him boring. Wally was the Flash, and people loved (and still love) him. So, why is Barry still the Flash?
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@sorin-3510 DC decided to bring him back and have him be the main flash.
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
@@sorin-3510 You didn't answer my question. I asked why is Wally West still The Flash, despite the fact that Barry Allen is back and does it make any logical sense?
I think we shouldn’t forget abt Barry in fact he should be the main flash(for a while, maybe 2 or 3 phases, most likely 2) and then have him build up Wally west who will take the mantle and replace Barry’s spot in the justice league. Barry will still be present and he’ll even cameo and have a role to play in the universe, but we’ll be following along through the eyes of Wally west and his character. But I just don’t think we should push Barry Allen to the background too soon, or forget about him to make room for Wally west.
It would be very cool if Barry Allen (Ezra Miller) dies at the end of the Flash movie resetting the universe with Wally West as the new Flash in the DCU
It just depends where they leave the Flash in the Flash movie. If Barry ends up dying at the end of the movie to save the timelines then I could see Wally just being the Flash of the new DCU and acknowledge the existence of Barry and his death. If Barry doesn't die he should be the Flash the next movie should be him taking on Wally as a pupil setting up for the replacement. Wally does deserve mainstream recognition as the Flash but let Barry have a good big screen run first imo.
Miles Brown as Wally West or Timotee Chalamet as Wally West
I think we will see Barry Allen again but he'll be more comic accurate however we will see Wally but however he'll be starting as Kid Flash instead and be a Founding member of the DCU Teen Titans with Robin, Wonder Girl, Cyborg, Beast Boy, Raven, and Starfire wile Barry will be the Justice League Flash
Sooooooo what I'm hearing is that I truly am the perfect casting for Wally West!
I feel like Barry Allen has been used in film and tv shows to much I have the same issue with peter parker where you tell the same story with different actors and have other characters like miles and wally with new and fresh takes to the characters is the way to go
Wally West always at his best.⚡
Why tf did they give erza the role again even they said he would never be the flash again? Give it to grant
I personally would want it to start off with Kid Flash (Wally West) and The Flash (Barry Allen) showing up as those two in chapter 1 and 2, then in chapter 3 or 4 (depending on how long or short chapters are) a dramatic event kills barry and we actually see Wally grow from Kid Flash to The Flash over the course of the DCU maybe making Wally's Flash movie a sequel to a previous Barry Allen DCU movie (not the ezra miller one)
Should've just named the movie "The Flash : Born To Run" Imo
@TheBlackLion001
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that works too
All I know is that Wally is my Flash thanks to JL and JLU
I love Wally more but Reverse Flash and Wally don’t hit the same as Barry.
@talentroller4413
Жыл бұрын
that’s why he has zoom his own reverse flash
@bordeauxproductions9882
Жыл бұрын
@@talentroller4413 yeah I know
Something they could do is maybe build up Crisis in the other superhero movies, already have barry be flash no showing his origin, and make a crisis movie and then after that this flash movie could happen. idk just a thought
I love Wally west flash and I am hoping really hoping we get Wally west flash in his own movie which would be really awesome and badass at least in my opinion.
@jxlennn
Жыл бұрын
I feel like I seen you before
@TevyaSmolka
Жыл бұрын
@@jxlennn yup :)
@trevturp6891
Жыл бұрын
Wally West does deserve his own movie and he also deserves his own superhero codename.
The Black Lion: "Batman is clearly Bruce Wayne, Superman is Clark Kent, Wonder Woman is clearly Diana..." Me: "And The Flash is clearly Barry Allen."
@oldchannel3659
Жыл бұрын
No because unlike Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman who is barely had a year away from being the main Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman, the Flash had over 2 decades of Barry not being the Flash and Wallybeing the Flash instead.
@1993digifan
5 ай бұрын
The Flash is Jay Garrick! After all he was the first, so the title is his property.
Barry Allen wouldn't and won't ever disgrace the legacy of The Flash.
@1993digifan
5 ай бұрын
You do remember that "Barry" is actually EOBARD? Right?
who do you think should play fake barry? ezra?
EXACTLY
The DCAU Flash (voiced by Michael Rosenbaum) was Wally West, not Barry Allen.
@spazzout1k350
Жыл бұрын
He said that
Gunn better give Wally West some respect
They couldn't have both Barry Allen and Wally West be The Flash in James Gunn's DCU.
@1993digifan
5 ай бұрын
Why? Do you have mental difficulties that makes it hard for you to tell the difference?
I think we need a whole video on the Captain Carrot and the zoo crew teaser
There's also some things to love about The Flash 1990 TV Series.
@1993digifan
5 ай бұрын
The typical 90s cheese?
The flash on the dcu should be split into two trilogy’s one being about Barry and Wally can have some appearances and become kid flash in the 2nd and 3rd movie and also be apart of the teen titans then by the 2nd or 3rd justice league movie Barry sacrifices his life leading into the 2nd flash trilogy where Wally will take up his mantle and maybe do Barry’s rebirth at the end of Wally’s trilogy I just think to make Wally u need to do Barry first bc with out him there would be no Wally and I think it would be more impactful to see Barry’s death on the big screen then just bogusly start off with Wally
I think that the dcu will start with barry and then go over to wally
I want the flash version of Bart Allen to come back to the past to join the justice league as flash and train Barry as kid flash it’ll be a new take on the characters I guess
They should have used this storyline for the first part of season 4 of the Flash because of Barry went into the Speed Force and use Grant to play thawne