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  • @OperationStephen
    @OperationStephen5 ай бұрын

    My response to Jay Smith's message in the comment section: @pfanderfilms - Dear Jay Smith - Good to hear from you. However not so good to hear this from you. Please make it simple - are you asking me to have unity with Ecumenism, Roman Catholicism, and Eastern Orthodoxy? If that's what you are saying, I'd just have one more person's awareness of history and doctrine that I would have to deal with. Thank you for being Bob's agent and communicating his personal preferences to me - however, I must insist I work for my precious Lord and Saviour, King Jesus, and my ministry targets are determined by the Lord Jesus and His Word and are not subject to negotiation based on personal preferences of yourself or Bob (and not even mine, to a degree). Bob or anyone else is free to do what he wishes / they wish. My mandate is to face and expose problematic ideas (Atheism/Agnosticism, Islam, Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Rabbinic Judaism, Hinduism etc) as I deem appropriate for my Lord's glory - so please ask him not to whine about it when that happens. He/you can't have the cake and eat it too. Please do not misrepresent me - it has never been my intention to have unity with Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy in all my time at Speakers' Corner. So I am really unsure of what you are on about when you talk about your 25 years - perhaps you just mean that YOU intended to be united with doctrines of demons - that's your prerogative - I have no further comments on that. As for me I neither have had nor wish to have any unity with corrupt institutions and doctrines that are against my precious Lord and Saviour who purchased me with His precious blood and who desperately seeks to save millions of perishing followers of Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. If poor Bob can't face challenges when he markets Ecumenism, Roman Catholicism, and Eastern Orthodoxy please ask him to stay at home. I trust this gives enough clarity. I respect you but I exhort you to get the Word of God centre in your life - a certain verse that goes like "what does it profit a man that he gains the whole world but loses his soul" comes to my mind. God's direction to you. In my precious Lord JESUS' service, Arul

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    Arul…you still don’t get it.!! Nobody is interfering with what you believe in. But the way you going about it….it’s childish. Bob is not forcing you to believe in what he believes in. AND THIS IS WHAT Jay Smith is trying to tell you. This anti-Catholicism of yours might destroy your ministry. Please watch it.!!

  • @sleepwalker7755

    @sleepwalker7755

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mattpistachio5497you haven’t watched the video all the way through have you Matt? Clearly, Arul is proving with scripture that Jay and Bob are not preaching the one Gospel … the one true Gospel. Please don’t be partisan. If Arul is ‘sectarian’ following the narrow path… then, Jay and Bob are following the wide path! We all know where the ‘many’ who follow the wide path are going, don’t we?

  • @JasonLovesJesus

    @JasonLovesJesus

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mattpistachio5497 Would you say the same to Paul when he challenged Peter? Galatians 2:11-13 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.

  • @youdonthavetoactreligioust3836

    @youdonthavetoactreligioust3836

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mattpistachio5497 yeah, I am quite shocked why he has chosen to attack fellow brethren ..rather than focus on the Gospel! If he doesn't stop this vendetta I am out from there. I am here for preaching of the Gospel and for the extension of Lord's kingdom and Stay away from foolish and stupid arguments ..

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    @@JasonLovesJesus …you’re way off topic. Read your Bible properly and not with blinkers on. Did Paul and the Apostles act the way these childish characters are doing.!!? Hear we see Arul acting sanctimoniously and so on…and everyone else is regarded as not knowing scripture as he understands it or is a good enough Christian for that matter.

  • @user-ki3ln9lo3d
    @user-ki3ln9lo3d5 ай бұрын

    Arul , dont be enemies to each other.

  • @truthdefenders-

    @truthdefenders-

    5 ай бұрын

    The Bible teaches clearly that Christians should separate from heretics and unruly folks.

  • @dayamra9747

    @dayamra9747

    5 ай бұрын

    I'm sure neither has any enmity towards the other. I would like to see them both set aside their differences and talk. This will be useful even for non believers when they meet or hear from Christians from different sects. It will help them understand that there are different perspectives and what the reasons are for those differences.

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    Bob preaches a satanic idea every church preaches the same gospel which is false

  • @miasma5733

    @miasma5733

    5 ай бұрын

    Bob is making it easy. You should be enemies of heretics, for example Islam is a heresy of Christianity.

  • @drea7295

    @drea7295

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@dayamra9747Bob is ecumenical but doesn't accept the more protestant denominations .he believes in praying to the saints doesn't believe in believers baptism, believes in evolution, the big bang , doesn't believe in eternal destruction.belives there could be life on other planets ,believes in dinosaurs. Believes suicide is the blasphemy against the holy spirit.

  • @user-fq6hv9xz5j
    @user-fq6hv9xz5jАй бұрын

    Bob does not want to divide chistendom . He aint gonna fall for the serpents old tricks. He has wisdom.

  • @raphaelfeneje486
    @raphaelfeneje4865 ай бұрын

    To everyone here taking sides even without watching the video should be embarrassed. I love Bob and I have been listening to him, however truth must be spoken. Ask Bob if Roman Catholics considers him a Christian and inside the Church. He wouldn't answer. If Roman Catholics despise and call Christians outside the Ark, who then is the sectarian?? That we are Christians doesn't mean we can't question doctrines.

  • @jessegonzalez7873

    @jessegonzalez7873

    5 ай бұрын

    Totally agree. Bob is spreading false catholic idolatry traditions he has to retract from that falsehood to be called himself a Biblical Christian

  • @dayamra9747

    @dayamra9747

    5 ай бұрын

    Good point.

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    RCC is sectarian and Bob is sectarian himself

  • @raphaelfeneje486

    @raphaelfeneje486

    5 ай бұрын

    @@kM-ij2ly Of course he is. I don't know if he knows that.

  • @MollyPitcher1778

    @MollyPitcher1778

    4 ай бұрын

    I have been a supporter of Bob and usually watch his videos when they pop up in my feed. That said, I have heard him say things that I disagreed with. It would be nice if we all could have a united front when confronting Islam because we know how they will turn it against us to refute all our claims. After all, they think that Mohammad is mentioned in the Song of Solomon. Can't get much more desperate and foolish than that. And it completely ruins a beautiful message of Love. (by design, I have no doubt) What I'm getting to is that teaching church eisegesis doctrines are not appropriate to a severely lost and confused crowd found in Speaker's Corner. The heart of the matter is Jesus, what He did for us and the consequence of what He did that the Islamists SORELY need. That can come later as anyone searching for details of Truth can find in being biblical teachers -- many online.

  • @love101a3
    @love101a35 ай бұрын

    There is no middle ground in truth

  • @ProfYaffle
    @ProfYaffle5 ай бұрын

    Matthew 7:15-20. ...you will know them by their fruits... In Bob and Arul I see love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Galatians 5:22-26 let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other

  • @unicorngav4768

    @unicorngav4768

    5 ай бұрын

    That's the Holy Spirit talking through you...✝️

  • @Gospelized

    @Gospelized

    5 ай бұрын

    Tell that to your enemies when they are breaking the cross over your head

  • @zacuhuthingo4268
    @zacuhuthingo4268Ай бұрын

    Bod is the soldier of Jesus Christ, Jesus is with him. May holy spirit be with Bod always amen.

  • @cba4389
    @cba438923 күн бұрын

    Jesus called out false doctrines in his letters to the churches in Revelation so I don't know why some claim we should not call out false teachings. Great and faithful job.

  • @toshikosugi
    @toshikosugi5 ай бұрын

    I always dreamed of seeing Bob and Arul to come together, but never did I think it would happen like this.

  • @markembe9996
    @markembe99965 ай бұрын

    With regards to speakers corner the christians really need to come together. Fighting amongst yourselves will hurt the message of our lord & saviour. I pray for you all to come together. 🙏

  • @deanobonitop1610
    @deanobonitop16102 ай бұрын

    ARUL my brother i have nothing but love for you and what you stand for BUT dont go about Brother bob like this man ! The two of use togther will be unstoppable! ☦️✝️

  • @tonbears
    @tonbears5 ай бұрын

    One of the greatest blessings about our identity in Christ is the grace we’re given in order to grow into the spiritual maturity that truly reflects our new identity (Philippians 1:6). Our lives in light of our identity in Christ are filled with a heavenly Father, a large, loving family, and the understanding that we are citizens of another kingdom and not of this earth.

  • @eliasfarias2911
    @eliasfarias29115 ай бұрын

    Arul what is going on my brother? Seems to me from hearing you you criticism towards bob, as base less. Please present the true gospel let’s hear it from you !!

  • @sleepwalker7755

    @sleepwalker7755

    5 ай бұрын

    Why not actually watch this video all the way through?

  • @guruji.2022
    @guruji.20225 ай бұрын

    Even Christian Prince said Bob is a heretic, I was shocked but it has been said.

  • @whispersuki2241

    @whispersuki2241

    5 ай бұрын

    why is bob a heretic??

  • @song4night

    @song4night

    4 ай бұрын

    christian prince himself is not solid on theology. he's fine with catholic, orthodox,etc. Doesn't rightly divide the Word like Arul does.

  • @libbaT

    @libbaT

    4 ай бұрын

    @@song4night I think CP tends to lump all of 'Christendom' together more than Arul would. However, I do think that CP has highlighted that he recognises that there are 'cults' within Christendom that deviate greatly from the 'simple gospel', such as JW's and maybe elements of Adventism. I'm happy to be corrected.

  • @serenakaur1131

    @serenakaur1131

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@libbaTyou are right...i love CP and his ministry but i don't agree with his position on RC,EO etc...its the only thing i strongly disagree with...he probably holds this belief because the Middle East mostly practices Eastern Orthodoxy and he grew up in this envitonment....But to be fair to him,he has said many many times not to follow man and traditions but to just strictly follow CHRIST....shalom

  • @libbaT

    @libbaT

    4 ай бұрын

    @@serenakaur1131 Yes, I concur. Also, with what CP does he has to be careful how he represents ‘Christendom’ as whole as we know our Muslim ‘friends’ will jump at any semblance of division and the whole conversation gets sidetracked away from Islam! It’s the delicate balance between conducting your outreach without compromising the truth, I guess? Shalom.

  • @odongoelias7367
    @odongoelias73675 ай бұрын

    Hello Arul, you guys need to come together, not beat each other down. The headline in your video is very condescending, I don't want to unsubscribe, but the attacks on Bob are too much. You guys just have a debate. A respectful one. Air your points out. But not this.

  • @OperationStephen

    @OperationStephen

    5 ай бұрын

    Hello @odongoelias - Please trust me - my message (as you would hear in the video to come in a few mins) would be the same whether there are 1 million subscribers or 10 subscribers - my first commitment is to the Lord Jesus Christ who loves us all so dearly which leads me to speak the truth in love and this is what I have attempted in this video. My intent is not to beat anyone down as much as attempting to speak clearly on the evil of ecumenism which is rearing its ugly head globally now. Please watch the video and get in touch if you need further clarifications. Brother Greg and team do a livestream on Mondays 8 PM, London time - that is another avenue to get any clarification you need if you are able to join his team live. Looking forward to hearing more from you one way or another.

  • @odongoelias7367

    @odongoelias7367

    5 ай бұрын

    @@OperationStephen Thank you. I will be sure to watch it. I've watched you for the longest time. You have taught a lot about Christianity, through your debates with Mohammed Hijab, Siraj (the guy who never seems to stop interrupting), Uthman (foot note liar) and so many others. I just don't Christians at the park fighting each other, the muslims are already taking over, you guys are front line of Christianity, not only in England, but the world. Thank you

  • @youdonthavetoactreligioust3836

    @youdonthavetoactreligioust3836

    5 ай бұрын

    totally agree this was not necessary at all. Arul is getting very emotional. Bob is our brother and he may have his own ideas but doing a stream and sensationalizing is a bit childish.

  • @youdonthavetoactreligioust3836

    @youdonthavetoactreligioust3836

    5 ай бұрын

    @@OperationStephen 9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    @@OperationStephen …you guys are doing a disservice to Christianity as a whole. There is no depth in your discourses…except to label those who have different interpretations from yours as belonging to a “devilish group”. Are you sure about that.!!? It’s too shallow and childish and shortsighted. It’s disappointing. Good to criticise and question and discuss, but not in the self-righteous manner in which you operate. Do you really think and believe that you’re the first ones in the past 2000 years to have found the only true interpretations and meaning of scriptures.!!?? No wonder there are over 40,000 denominations to date and still rising. Remember.!!.. old institutions like the Catholic and Orthodox churches have faced and survived all this before, and stood the passage of time and condemnations that came along the way. Good luck with your new found sect. All l can say is “avoid belittling others in the process, as you delve in the wonderful mysteries of God’s plans”.

  • @ProfYaffle
    @ProfYaffle5 ай бұрын

    1 Corinthians 10:12 Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall

  • @Guiltyguite
    @Guiltyguite29 күн бұрын

    You want to expose Bob why not talk to bob personally mister .

  • @Catmonks7
    @Catmonks72 ай бұрын

    A Catholic would define a Christian as anyone who professes faith in Christ and who has been validly baptized (water baptism). (1) Catholics are Christians; (2) the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus started and which he said would never pass away (Mt 16:18); (3) when Scripture speaks of Christians it speaks of every church member as a Christian, no matter what his “walk with God” may be like; and (4) Christians throughout history have always recognized baptism as the method by which one becomes a Christian. It was not until after the Protestant Reformation was underway that people denied this.

  • @daveflick12
    @daveflick1223 күн бұрын

    I love both of you. Both have given me faith and a new learning. I am only at the start of this video, so not commenting on what you say yet.

  • @thytruth813
    @thytruth8135 ай бұрын

    Fantastic work. Bob is brilliant in apologetics and polemics but is heretical on so many different issues. Because of his ability combined with popularity people ignore his heresies or simply aren’t aware of the depth of the heresies. So excellent work, it needs highlighting and exposing. Praise God.

  • @melkishedekh8775
    @melkishedekh877528 күн бұрын

    Stand together brother ❤ Jesus likes that only

  • @isaiahmcintosh3355
    @isaiahmcintosh33554 ай бұрын

    Well done Arul🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @HoneyfromtheRock
    @HoneyfromtheRock5 ай бұрын

    I am of the order of Royal Priesthood. Now, who has the audacity to say otherwise?

  • @moses5161
    @moses51615 ай бұрын

    (1) Man of God - Who Is Bob The Builder? - Speakers Corner Hyde Park London 13-8-2023. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYKHpLdyZ8jVlag.html

  • @moses5161

    @moses5161

    5 ай бұрын

    (2) Man of God - Who Is Bob The Builder? - Speakers Corner Hyde Park London 13-8-2023. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pH1ntNdplMvVdbw.html

  • @ProfYaffle
    @ProfYaffle5 ай бұрын

    Titus3:9-10 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them.

  • @ProfYaffle

    @ProfYaffle

    5 ай бұрын

    See! We can quote Scripture too. Very sad about this whole thing

  • @christdiedforoursins1467

    @christdiedforoursins1467

    4 ай бұрын

    Im not sure if it's a foolish controversy,it's obviously not if these two men can not sort this out it says alot.Sadly this gentleman has valid points.Were not to agree with everyone we are to be in line with scripture , study to show yourself approved.If someone is not matching up to the scriptures teaching and teaching error the church needs to be the first to judge them. I'm trying to hear both sides but if one doesn't come to the party this gentleman will be heard ,Bob can make a defense.

  • @maikilreategui1271
    @maikilreategui12715 ай бұрын

    I pray you wil talk this out with eachother like gentlement and get along. It is really important for all us Christian to unite now, inspite of differences. I like to believe that you two will overcome these obstacle.

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    If the differences are the gospel ie salvation then they cannot work together logically as well as biblically

  • @whathappening5323

    @whathappening5323

    3 ай бұрын

    This is what we are up against, making excuses for this is what you are good at. The followers of Wickliffe, then called Lollards, became extremely numerous, and the clergy were so vexed to see them increase whatever power or influence they might have to molest them in an underhand manner, that they had no authority by law to put them to death. However, the clergy embraced the favourable opportunity and prevailed upon the king to suffer a bill to be brought into parliament, by which all Lollards who remained obstinate, should be delivered over to the secular power, and burnt as heretics. This act was the first in Britain for the burning of people for their religious sentiments; it passed in the year 1401, and was soon after put into execution. You can read the parliamentary document on Google De Heretico Comburendo The first person who suffered in consequence of this cruel act was William Santree, or Sawtree, a priest, who was burnt to death in Smithfield. Soon after this, lord Cobham, in consequence of his attachment to the doctrines of Wickliffe, was accused of heresy, and being condemned to be hanged and burnt, was accordingly executed in Loncoln's-Inn Fields, A. D. 1419. The next man who suffered under this bloody statute was Thomas Bradley, a tailor, and a layman; and a letter having been tendered him, which he refused, he was declared an obstinate heretic, and tied to the stake in Smithfield; where he was burnt alive, rejoicing in the Lord his God. The next person we read of who was tried upon this abominable statute was William Thorpe, a man of some knowledge, who adhered to all the doctrines taught by Wickliffe. He was brought many times before archbishop Arundel, and at last committed a close prisoner, where he died, but in what manner cannot now be ascertained. About this time 36 persons, denominated Lollards, suffered death in St. Giles', for no other reason than professing their attachment to the doctrines of Wickliffe. They were hung on gibbets, and fagots were placed under them, as soon as they were suspended, the fire was set to them, so that they were burnt while hanging. Only one of their names has been transmitted to us, which is that of Sir Roger Archer[188] whom they distinguished from the rest by stripping him stark naked and executing him in that indecent manner. Much about the same time one Richard Turning was burnt alive in Smithfield, and suffered with all that constancy, fortitude, and resignation, which have so much distinguished the primitive Christians. In 1428, Abraham, a monk of Colchester, Milburn White, a priest and John Wade, a priest, were all three apprehended on a charge of heresy. Let me know if you want more information.

  • @pfanderfilms
    @pfanderfilms5 ай бұрын

    Arul, I love you brother, but this is wrong and spiteful. Please stop this attack against Bob. He's not asking you to worship with him, or even believe in everything he believes in. He is simply asking Christians like you and himself to stand together against Islam and Atheists. He purposely does not debate you on issues relating to Christianity, in order to keep unity between us. We all have issues between us which can easily separate us, but they are not to be brought out at Speaker's Corner. So, can you stop this division, and start bringing the unity which we had for 25 years when I was working there at Speaker's Corner? God bless you, nonetheless, Jay Smith

  • @johnkttraining

    @johnkttraining

    5 ай бұрын

    well said

  • @pipbaxter5286

    @pipbaxter5286

    5 ай бұрын

    AMEN Jay... perfect.❤

  • @youdonthavetoactreligioust3836

    @youdonthavetoactreligioust3836

    5 ай бұрын

    Absolutely Jay. Arul and few other Christians have lost it totally and I am shocked. They need to keep their feet on the ground not get emotional as Arul and few others I have seen.

  • @youdonthavetoactreligioust3836

    @youdonthavetoactreligioust3836

    5 ай бұрын

    Arul may also be trying get some attention ....

  • @Jesusislord107

    @Jesusislord107

    5 ай бұрын

    But do you weep for the RC and others who are perishing Jay Smith?:the gospel is a primary issue..

  • @Born_From_Above
    @Born_From_Above12 күн бұрын

    I feel like a whole lot of them are fixated on winning arguments on the Trinity and philosophy. I never hear those guys preach the Gospel that saves… it seems they would rather win arguments instead of winning souls. Thanks for your faithfulness and for not compromising for “unity”.

  • @johnkttraining
    @johnkttraining5 ай бұрын

    Oh my goooooodness,instead of dealing with real issues and targeting non believers, this is the nonsense we are focusing on? Lock in on you and your mission Arul.

  • @polarfamily6222

    @polarfamily6222

    5 ай бұрын

    He is doing just what the Bible has written for these types of situations.

  • @dayamra9747

    @dayamra9747

    5 ай бұрын

    Targeting non believers? Non believers are not targets. The Body of Christ needs to be led by sound doctrine. These conversations are as necessary as, if not more than the ones with non believers.

  • @order-sol0414

    @order-sol0414

    5 ай бұрын

    We are called to speak against false teachers not join in agreement with them. Bob is a heretic and NOT a Christian.

  • @HoneyfromtheRock

    @HoneyfromtheRock

    10 күн бұрын

    ​@i rebuke you Satan order-sol0414

  • @LookOutForNumberOne
    @LookOutForNumberOne4 ай бұрын

    If the genesis account is literal? Then, where do you get the FIRST 3 DAYS using the 24hr Earth cycle without the Sun?

  • @OperationStephen

    @OperationStephen

    3 ай бұрын

    @LookOutForNumberOne - A better question would be - if Genesis is literal how did something come forth just because God commanded it to come forth. I simply can't believe this is one of your best questions.

  • @Christdiedforoursins1Corinthia
    @Christdiedforoursins1CorinthiaАй бұрын

    Thanks for this much needed video many on the internet cannot know Bob personally so its a bit difficult to understand exactly what he believes he is a bit secretive on some of his belifs and then slowly introduces false teaching.the problem with videos is the can be edited or you can miss videos where he is teaching heresy.and get side tracked into a debate not taking note if he is preaching truth or error . One problem Ive seen with Bob is he seems to understand the faith ( Christianity) like its a subject in school and so incorporates all forms of "Christianity" even unbibical ones into his belief system,ultimately we need to be in agreement with all scripture .Bob cant choose which denomination or church he blongs to he doesn't have any convictions about things like praying to Mary , even though Jesus himself or the disciples / apostles never taughts such things .in this way he denies what is in scripture , he also doesn't believe in hell as Jesus taught it .he agrees with a few creedal statements that are scriptural but denies the other scriptures that are contrary to what he teaches .he picks and chooses what he wants to believe in he also mimicks or uses the words ideas and speeces of other belivers or "christians"be they living or dead be they true or false in his writing or talks. One video the beginning speech is taken from a Mar Mari sermon word for word .he uses the word christian very broadly it seems at this time for a political agenda .

  • @MollyPitcher1778
    @MollyPitcher17784 ай бұрын

    Thank you. I always enjoy how you handle your hecklers and stand firm in your teaching at Speaker's Corner. This is a great message for all of us (read 'me'). lol God bless you!

  • @lkae4
    @lkae45 ай бұрын

    When I first started listening to Bob a few years ago, I had a hunch he didn't believe in salvation by grace through faith. All kinds of horrible things can come of that.

  • @mudaaa1015

    @mudaaa1015

    5 ай бұрын

    I am a Protestant but now I actually get what it means. Salvation by faith alone is lazy faith What Our Bible and early church fathers meant was faith without work is like branches of vine which bear no fruit. Faith and works cannot be separated. If you have faith you will work and transform yourself. But if you work alone you won't get salvation same as FAITH ALONE won't get you no where. Didnt Jesus said you didn't feed me when I came you didn't cloth me when I needed? If you say faith alone why are you not working the teachings? Sola fide is easy faith True Faith lies in understanding the Love of Christ and loving others by doing work. True faith bears fruit.

  • @lkae4

    @lkae4

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mudaaa1015 Have you done enough work yet or no?

  • @lkae4

    @lkae4

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mudaaa1015 Isn't it arrogant and low IQ to assume you've done enough? I think it is. It's like declaring that you smell good. Don't you think?

  • @lkae4

    @lkae4

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mudaaa1015 If you think you've done enough, that's just evidence of lack of humility. That's just evidence you need to do much more work on your arrogance. No?

  • @lkae4

    @lkae4

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mudaaa1015 Have you done enough work to be a nice person? A good person? Please ask your pastor and elders for an honest answer.

  • @davidjames6148
    @davidjames614828 күн бұрын

    I actually searched Bob of speakers corner and Arul, hoping to get a powerful united force against Islam... But sad.. I love you both guys.

  • @MastakongoPrez
    @MastakongoPrez4 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately, Bob has the habit of giving people names (unitarian, sectarian, etc.) and shouting (not always) during the conversation with the Christian brother as if the entire park were to hear. He should do it when he's debating the Muslims. Jesus didn't enter the world to unite the Christians; ecumenism isn't biblical. How could you unite Christians if you shame Christians publicly? I also heard him say that he believes the Genesis (creation) story isn't literal. As his views are inclined towards ecumenism and Catholicism, I think he should speak for himself, not on behalf of Christians. The Holy Bible is strong enough to instruct believers. Let the Bible speak for God. The Bible doesn't say Genesis isn't literal. Why shouldn't it be factual, and how was the material world brought into existence? If the creation of Adam isn't literal, how was he created?

  • @serenakaur1131

    @serenakaur1131

    4 ай бұрын

    Agreed 100%...Bob's understanding of Genesis is really disturbing....the entire redemptive act of JESUS dying on the Cross rests on the fundamental original sin of Adam and Eve.....a perfect sacrifice was needed to redeem man from the fallen corrupted nature that we inherited thru Adam's sin...you don't have to be rocket scientist to understand this so why can't bob...???

  • @MastakongoPrez

    @MastakongoPrez

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly. It's a complete book that answers all questions from the past, present, and future. For instance, Genesis 3:15 talks about Jesus. To complete the story, we can go to Revelation 12:9 and Luke 10:19. It’s a bit long, but I have to share it. « The great dragon was hurled down-that *_ancient serpent_* called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels were with him. » Revelation 12:9. « Behold, I give unto you power *_to tread on serpents and scorpions,_* and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. » Luc 10:19. He was bruised, beaten, and pierced. He died as the result of the venom of the serpent, who planned his death. And he rose again on the third day with the saints (1 Peter 4:6; Matthew 27:51-53) to inaugurate paradise (Hebrews 10:20-22; Luke 23:43). Did Rasulullah Muhammad crush the head of Shaitan? No! « So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, (...) I will put *_enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; He will crush your head and you will strike his heel._* ” » Genesis 3 :15. *_The seed of the woman is Jesus Christ the Messiah_* Jesus isn’t the seed of a Man. WHICH MAN??? Mary cannot give a child to anyone; only God Can. Jesus is not the son of Maryam, He's the son of God. He doesn't have the DNA of Maryam. *_He entered a body with the Spirit of God; He’s God. GOD IS A SPIRIT,_* Genesis 1 :1-2. He’s the Word of God John 1 :1 (Kalimat Al-Lahu. Surah 4 :171). Jesus never sinned, and he never repented. Adam sinned. Even Muhammad and Solomon sinned; that’s why they died and they’re in hell, 1 King 11:1-10. >>>The Prophet, Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam (May Al_Lah pray on him, and give him peace today, after 1400 years) said, *_ALL of the CHILDREN OF ADAM ARE SINNERS, and the best sinners are those who repent_*

  • @Thewatchman303
    @Thewatchman3034 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for calling out Bob’s horrendous celebration of people who murder in the name of Jesus.

  • @truthdefenders-
    @truthdefenders-5 ай бұрын

    One point of advice, this entire vid could have been done in half the time. A good speaker should learn to be quick to the point for our time is precious. Keeping us here for an hour when it could have all been said in 20 minutes is not being responsible. 😉

  • @zonwabelebangani6975

    @zonwabelebangani6975

    3 ай бұрын

    My sentiments!

  • @Nasraniksatria
    @Nasraniksatria11 күн бұрын

    Arul is a good Bible teacher.

  • @bennyjoseph4935
    @bennyjoseph4935Ай бұрын

    What are the points on which you differ with Bob?

  • @translinearlight6132

    @translinearlight6132

    Ай бұрын

    Bob believes in Mary, saints and other catholic nonsense.

  • @anthonykenaley
    @anthonykenaley4 ай бұрын

    Bless you brother you are a light in darkness..

  • @kM-ij2ly
    @kM-ij2ly5 ай бұрын

    I have listened and I do not agree with the lordship salvation gospel message preached from 49 minutes onwards but Arul is right about Bob

  • @Angus1966
    @Angus19663 ай бұрын

    you and bob need to talk , you are both good men

  • @costa328
    @costa3285 ай бұрын

    What makes you a Christian is one who is born again by the Spirit. If there's no true repentance, then one should examine themselves, which Bob never mentioned.

  • @InJesusName442
    @InJesusName4422 ай бұрын

    Lucifer is laughing at us christians now. Keep it up!

  • @geraldmccallion317
    @geraldmccallion317Ай бұрын

    IN JESUS WE TRUST AMEN

  • @fakenewsjohn1441
    @fakenewsjohn14415 ай бұрын

    Oh bless you Arul

  • @jeremypitiroi
    @jeremypitiroi5 ай бұрын

    Bless you brother Arul 🙏🔥

  • @CliffyPillay
    @CliffyPillay5 ай бұрын

    Bless you Araul ❤❤❤❤

  • @allah-is-a-slavemaster
    @allah-is-a-slavemaster5 ай бұрын

    Bob made mistake not engaging Arul in dialog, because its through dialog that understanding comes.

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    It’s because of childish wisdom exhibited by Arul and his colleagues, in particular Bloodfire and Amy with their unchristian uncouth attitude towards Bob, which would put off anyone engaging with them. Bob was/is 100% correct to avoid them. And all this in the presence of muslims. This is not the way to challenge your Christian brother …the Bible states that you should call your brother aside and talk about your differences. Bloodfire and Amy are worse than the muslims and they seem so proud about it. How stupid can one be.!! Something is terribly AMISS in their portrayal of Christianity….they should stick to islamic arguments instead. It suits them.

  • @libbaT
    @libbaT4 ай бұрын

    Do we not realise that the wheat and the chaff grow together? Eventually, the chaff has to be burned off. (Matt.3:12). Do we not remember that we warned about deviations from the 'simple gospel'? 3 I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes and proclaims a Jesus other than the One we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit than the One you received, or a different gospel than the one you accepted, you put up with it way too easily. 2. Cor. 11 Brother Arul is simply highlighting these things here. Not sure why people get so shocked when brothers WITHIN Christendom have doctrinal differences. It is the way of things and has been happening since the early church. We are to 'correct' each other in love, is the key.

  • @OperationStephen

    @OperationStephen

    4 ай бұрын

    @libbaT - I almost agree with you 100%. There is only one little part where I differ and that is in saying Roman Catholicism etc have established themselves over a long period of time that they should be legitimately considered as stand alone religion outside of Biblical Christianity - so I don't consider it to be legitimate Christianity which needs correction - but rather as illegitimate religion that needs to be dismantled. A temporary incorrect doctrine needs to be corrected 'in house' - but an extended incorrect doctrine needs to be treated as a different religion and engaged. Do you see what I am saying? But that you very much for making this point!

  • @libbaT

    @libbaT

    4 ай бұрын

    @OperationStephen I totally concur with that and maybe I should have made that clearer in my statement

  • @RedWh1teWizard
    @RedWh1teWizard5 ай бұрын

    Bob is a true legend who knows what he is talking about !!

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes he preaches a false gospel as he promotes false gospel churches

  • @jessegonzalez7873

    @jessegonzalez7873

    5 ай бұрын

    Legend or not he is a mere human and he is pressing false catholic idolatry traditions

  • @truthdefenders-

    @truthdefenders-

    5 ай бұрын

    Hes a heretic and ignorant.

  • @Nasraniksatria
    @Nasraniksatria11 күн бұрын

    I don’t hate Bob, I just hate it when he tolerates Roman Catholic/East Orthodox heresy.

  • @midnighthymn
    @midnighthymn22 күн бұрын

    Well done

  • @ordinarylife2343
    @ordinarylife23435 ай бұрын

    Sectarianism and Denomination has nothing to do with Jesus. JESU said follow me and take up your cross.

  • @love101a3
    @love101a35 ай бұрын

    Sometimes, when people don’t listen, you have no other options because there is council in the Bible for these mothers so Isaiah 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

  • @HebrewsvJohnv
    @HebrewsvJohnv5 ай бұрын

    Amen

  • @bennyblanco692
    @bennyblanco692Ай бұрын

    Arul I agree a lot of things you have shared at speakers corner, can you please meditate on this a lot. Im mot saying you don't do that but bob does believe in a the Trinity and that should mean something to you. I'm a christian just like you and I dont have the same beliefs as Catholic, but I know they're childs of God the Father just like Christians are. Is God who chooses people not us, we can even be condemning our self if we're taking against a child of God. I believe your a child of God just like bob, can their be a way to reconcile remove the videos and come to a agreement. Please Arul I'll stand next to you and bob anytime. God bless you and bob may God help in this situation.

  • @thomasphilipose2068
    @thomasphilipose20684 ай бұрын

    Arul don’t be fighting each others now please defend common enemy Islam

  • @adrianionescu7500
    @adrianionescu75005 ай бұрын

    In fact, Apostole Peter took the soard and cut the roman's ear... But what Jesus said? Put it back... Not throu it away! In my opinion this mean that you can use it when it will be proper... (maybe defending yourself and your family)...

  • @sigmanocopyrightmusic8737

    @sigmanocopyrightmusic8737

    5 ай бұрын

    No total misrepresentation of the verse. There is a brother called Thomas albin Holmes who exposes these false interpretations of scripture

  • @adrianionescu7500

    @adrianionescu7500

    5 ай бұрын

    John 18:11 says "So Jesus said to Peter, “Put your sword into the sheath. Shall I not drink the cup which My Father has given Me?”

  • @the_end_times
    @the_end_timesАй бұрын

    Brother Arul there is a way to deal with things. Don't loose your testimony in front of the heathens. The devil is waiting for every opportunity to destroy us. So we should give ourselves to prayer, fasting and doing the will of God. Please walk away from trouble makers.

  • @antonypereira3853
    @antonypereira38535 ай бұрын

    What are you saying holly catholic church?

  • @fromjulian

    @fromjulian

    5 ай бұрын

    The word 'catholic' means 'universal'. We are being lazy by using it as a short-form of Roman Catholic. 'holy catholic church', in the 'Apostles Creed' that Arul was quoting, does not equal the Roman Catholic institution, but all those who are truly Christ's people.

  • @dundadunda552
    @dundadunda5525 ай бұрын

    Arul...this is not the way to do it!!. Dont turn this into a show. Have a one on one chat. This is not right.

  • @urbandsouza7279
    @urbandsouza72795 ай бұрын

    Everybody say he is in bible.bible belivers have more than 40 thousand groups within ,why ? Any answers?

  • @skarmat
    @skarmat5 ай бұрын

    On the night he was betrayed our Lord and God Jesus gave thanks and gave the bread and wine to his Apostles and said it clearly that it is his flesh and blood and to do it in remembrance of him. In remembrance of our Lord we do it in every worship as a Church. This was followed from the first century onward. It is mentioned in Didache and also in the writings of Ignatius of Antioch and other early church fathers. The only time Jesus' disciples left him was when he proclaimed that his flesh was indeed true food and his blood was indeed true drink (John 6:35-62) because they could not accept that teaching. “And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, ‘This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.’ In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, ‘This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you’” (Luke 22:1920). 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.” 52 The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?” 53 Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. John 6: 51-56. 26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, “Take and eat; this is my body.” 27 Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you, 28 for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: 26-28 22 While they were eating, he took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, and said, “Take it; this is my body.” 23 Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, and they all drank from it. 24 He said to them, “This is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed for many. Mark 14:22-24 42 They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. Acts 2:42 16 Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? Is not the bread which we break a sharing in the body of Christ? Since there is one bread, we who are many are one body; for we all partake of the one bread. 1 Corinthians 10:16-17 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. 22 Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? We are not stronger than He, are we? 1 Corinthians 10:21-22 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes. 1 Corinthians 11:26. 27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. 1 Corinthians 11:27-30 “Now concerning the Eucharist, give thanks this way. First, concerning the cup: We thank thee, our Father, for the holy vine of David Thy servant, which You madest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever.. And concerning the broken bread: We thank Thee, our Father, for the life and knowledge which You madest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever. Even as this broken bread was scattered over the hills, and was gathered together and became one, so let Thy Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth into Thy kingdom; for Thine is the glory and the power through Jesus Christ for ever. But let no one eat or drink of your Eucharist, unless they have been baptized into the name of the Lord; for concerning this also the Lord has said, ‘Give not that which is holy to the dogs,'” (Didache Chapter 9). “On the Lord’s own day gather together and break bread and give thanks, having first confessed your sins so that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one who has a quarrel with a companion join you until they have been reconciled, so that your sacrifice may not be defiled. For this is the sacrifice concerning which the Lord said, ‘In every place and time offer me a pure sacrifice, for I am a great king, says the Lord, and my name is marvelous among the nations,’” (Didache, Chapter 14). “I have no taste for corruptible food nor for the pleasures of this life. I desire the bread of God, which is the flesh of Jesus Christ, who was of the seed of David; and for drink I desire his blood, which is love incorruptible” (Ignatius of Antioch, Letter to the Romans 7:3 [A.D. 110]). Not as common bread nor common drink do we receive these; but as we have been taught, the food which has been made into the Eucharist by the Eucharistic prayer set down by Him, and by the change of which our blood and flesh is nourished, is both the Flesh and Blood of that incarnated Jesus." St. Justin Martyr, "First Apology," c. 150 A.D. “I have no taste for corruptible food nor for the pleasures of this life. I desire the bread of God, which is the flesh of Jesus Christ, who was of the seed of David; and for drink I desire his blood, which is love incorruptible” (Letter to the Romans 7:3 [A.D. 110]). “Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. . . . They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes” (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 6:2-7:1 [A.D. 110]).

  • @tekglance8895
    @tekglance88955 ай бұрын

    Arul please try to meet bob and talk him Among Christians conflict is not good

  • @truthdefenders-

    @truthdefenders-

    5 ай бұрын

    Who said Bob was a Christian?

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    I suspect Arul and his gang want to destroy Bob’s excellent work. Why.!!? …because their approach is off putting, despite Arul’s claim that he has asked him for a chat. Bob has noticed this and the exposure is now evidential.

  • @claud115

    @claud115

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@truthdefenders-Wdym? Is Bob not a Christian? It's ridiculous that you deny him as a Christian. We may have different theology but we are one in Our Lord Jesus Christ

  • @claud115

    @claud115

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@truthdefenders-I'm not a fan of Bob nevertheless I've learned a lot from him but it doesn't mean that I agree in all he says.

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    Bob refuses to meet

  • @Tubavision05
    @Tubavision055 ай бұрын

    We are all practising followers of christ.

  • @dollahmusa6705
    @dollahmusa67054 ай бұрын

    A Christian has sincerely repented of his sins and is striving, with the help of God’s Holy Spirit, to live by his Savior’s teachings. He is seeking to do God’s will in every aspect of his life as it is revealed in the Bible. And he is becoming a recipient of the happiness and blessings that come from being obedient to God!

  • @Kepha3
    @Kepha3Ай бұрын

    You're the best guy in Speaker's Corner, Arul, but your understanding of Christianity is nothing but a 16th Century innovation.

  • @dmelloa1
    @dmelloa15 ай бұрын

    Arul with all due respect to you, please don't divide the Christian community over trivial matters. There may be differences but unite in Christ. Jesus is heart broken to see his followers divided and that is what satan wants. Don't let the muslims take advantage of this, which I am sure they will. You and Johnno are causing more damage than good. May God Bless you.

  • @sleepwalker7755

    @sleepwalker7755

    5 ай бұрын

    So Bob is not dividing by calling Christians ‘sectarian’. Has the Roman Catholic Institution anathematised many Christians? Did they kill Christians for translating the Bible? Did they burn Bibles? What about the inquisition?

  • @urbandsouza7279
    @urbandsouza72795 ай бұрын

    OK arul ,is Mary sinner or not. Is Mary mother of jesus or mother of god ?

  • @discipleaj

    @discipleaj

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes, Mary sinned. What evidence do you have from the Bible that she hadn't? She had other children also, so her perpetual virginity is another thing espoused by Roman Catholics that is wrong.

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    Mary is a sinner Only Jesus Christ wasn’t a sinner

  • @jessegonzalez7873

    @jessegonzalez7873

    5 ай бұрын

    Only Jesús is sinless and he is the only way to the Father and saves us. Jesus is the only mediator he is the only ona that deserves all glory all of our praise and devotion nobody else is worthy

  • @urbandsouza7279

    @urbandsouza7279

    5 ай бұрын

    @jessegonzalez7873 then how you explain original sin

  • @truthdefenders-
    @truthdefenders-5 ай бұрын

    I have a suspicion that those criticizing Arul are only upset because they are tolerant of the pagan Roman Catholic cult and or the pagan Eastern Orthodox cult. Prove me wrong and be specific about what issues you have with what he has stated?

  • @sleepwalker7755

    @sleepwalker7755

    5 ай бұрын

    Herein lies truth.

  • @dayamra9747

    @dayamra9747

    5 ай бұрын

    Agreed. But it would have been good if Arul had put aside his anger and hadn't said that Bob has cowardice, ignorance, all of this was insulting and reduced the message Arul was trying to convey.

  • @truthdefenders-

    @truthdefenders-

    5 ай бұрын

    @@dayamra9747 Only if you don't think the truth and facts should be stated. You can't sugar coat things, if he acted cowardly and demonstrated ignorance why is it wrong to say it?

  • @dayamra9747

    @dayamra9747

    5 ай бұрын

    @truthdefenders I don't think stating facts respectfully requires insults. Both men are capable of having an honest, open, and healthy discussion in a Godly manner. I don't consider that sugarcoating and I don't see how Arul's use of insults is necessary to his message which is thought provoking and grounded in scripture without them.

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    4 ай бұрын

    …you’re the pagan.!! Your own statements prove that you belong to a demonic cult and have a demonic mindset. From the very beginning of Christianity various sects/ cults have tried to destroy Catholicism…they have failed. This is not new at all….Catholicism will prevail whilst different confused denominations will come and disappear just like that. Read Church Fathers and educate yourself. You have a lot to learn. May Jesus touch you most profoundly.

  • @elizabethannsaigal3311
    @elizabethannsaigal33115 ай бұрын

    This is uncalled for Arul - whatever you are accusing Bob of, is exactly what you are portraying here….Bob always says that there may be differences in opinions within our Christian denominations but, they are still the Body of Christ and he considers them so….I feel making videos against each other on KZread/Public forum is absolutely disgusting and a new low, especially when both of you preach at Speaker’s Corner. Popes/Crusaders defended The Faith in history and that’s what Bob refers to, neither does he ask anyone to pray to Mary, Mother of Christ. So that is very untrue. Everything that Bob has preached thus far, on the Principles on Christianity is not erroneous in any way. I agree Bob should not have gone over to you calling you a sectarian when Johnno was verbally attacking/disrupting his conversation he was having at the time, with Amy screeching in the background, thereafter, all three of them moving from one group to another in the Park…Bob trying his best to avoid confrontation not because he was scared, but, because it was an issue on Christian behaviour in question ??….J & A’s behaviour was obnoxious & disgraced ALL Christians, to say the least. Challenging Bob in that low life manner was a sad day for Christianity at Speaker’s Corner and this spiteful nonsensical video you have made to get back at him, is a step too far…. Just stop - before you lose all credibility. You are a great speaker/apologist….Bob definitely needs to apologise to you for his uncalled for remarks and the rude interruption….continue to focus on Christ as the centre of your preaching for HE is the reason and Lord. Please rethink your actions. ✝️🙏🏻

  • @leon5731
    @leon57315 ай бұрын

    Hi Stephan. Just wanna say lets not divide on our differences but unite on our similarities in Christ. Lets us all firstly love each other and follow Jesus teachings and He will guide us draw us closer to Him in the name of Jesus!

  • @polarfamily6222

    @polarfamily6222

    5 ай бұрын

    That's not what God wrote in the Bible that we should do as Christians in these situations...

  • @dougbendo8817

    @dougbendo8817

    5 ай бұрын

    Dude you sound like a Muslim? I here this foolishness on another channel as well: @GodLogicApologetics 11:42" Why would I trying to debunk what disagreements we have instead of joining with them in giving the gospel to non believers?" Proverbs 14:12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death. Right here is the problem Trinitarian's have and it the same reason they talk a big game but runs in the end. Below I am going to show you just how big these differences can be! Trinitarian: “You think there’s 2 different trinity’s” No, I THINK there is NO Trinity. You follow fools who preach an Old testament trinity. 1) The Most High 2) Angel of the Lord/ nature Angel (can not do soul atonement) 3) Holy Spirit You also follow fools who preach a New Testament Trinity 1) The Most High 2) Jesus Christ/ nature man (can do soul atonement) 3) Holy Spirit So what is being missed here? 1) Old testament trinity + New Testament Trinity = 2 Trinities 2) can not do soul atonement vs can do soul atonement = 2 different trinities 3) Angel of the Lord/ nature Angel vs Jesus Christ/ nature man = 2 different trinities The key take away in your foolish thinking is Old testament trinity could not provide the perfect blood sacrifice for man to be redeemed in the eyes of the Father. The Angel of the Lord was the intermediate only having the nature of an Angel but NOT the nature of a man who has a soul ( the breath of Life) that tied man to flesh. Without the soul The Angel of the Lord could not be offered as a blood sacrifice. This is why animals had to be the stand in before the coming of Christ. With the New Testament Trinity the Angel of the Lord is “Replaced” by Christ Jesus who is the “word made flesh”. Jesus having the nature of a man meant that the blood requirement for the perfect soul atonement is now made in the eyes of the Father based on Christ death and resurrection. Yup that looks like 2 trinities you be followin! Trinitarian: you think Matthew 23: 9 says not to call anyone father or teacher all the while admitting Paul calls himself teacher in the Bible… Matthew 23 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. So what don’t you understand about what Christ Commanded? Keywords: “call no man your father upon the earth” So why is that? Keywords: “for one is your Father, which is in heaven” So why do you have a problem about what Christ is commanding you? It’s because you're not saved in spirit. You hold on to your church fathers because you are of the flesh and your fathers are of the flesh. If you were adopted by MY Father in spirit then you would gladly accept Chirst Jesus commandment and proclaim The Most High as your Father but the Holy Spirit (a gift from the father) doesn’t testify with your spirit because your father is the devil. Romans 8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. --- 14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs-heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. As for Paul I did not say he was a teacher. The Holy Spirit appointed him “Teacher” by teaching through him. How could Paul be a teacher when he was blind to these things and it was the Living Word of the Most High source and the works. Paul was just a body the Holy Spirit decided to use. So yes you can be appointed teacher and not be a “teacher”. Trinitarian: “You believe in multiple gods”. I believe in ONE Most High. You believe in God (The Most High) essence divided into 3 persons! That means you believe in 3 God. You also claim God has more than 1 nature… “Christ’s nature is fully God and fully man”! 1) How many souls does Christ have because you claim he has more then one nature? 2) How many spirits does Christ have because you claim he has more then one nature? 3) How do the souls and spirits overlap because you claim Christ has more than one nature? You also claim Christ was the Angel of the Lord… “Christ’s nature is fully God and fully Angel”! 1) How many souls does Christ have because you claim he has more then one nature as an Angel? 2) How many spirits does Christ have because you claim he has more then one nature as an Angel? 3) How do the souls and spirits overlap because you claim Christ has more than one nature an Angel?

  • @OperationStephen

    @OperationStephen

    5 ай бұрын

    Hello @leon5731 - Thank you for your message. Our first commitment must be to our precious Lord Jesus Christ. There is only one unity I long to have and that is in obedience to His Word as how the Apostles handed down to us. I trust you would appreciate what I am saying.

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    @@OperationStephen …right now you’re obeying your own voice. Please check yourself. You’re a splendid guy with a lot potential, but something is AMISS and it’s difficult to somewhat put a finger on it. Will pray for you and likewise pray for us too. I know you have an issue with RC…however l beg you to wait for God’s grace and mercy for everything to be revealed unto you.

  • @MIKEDIAMONDZ
    @MIKEDIAMONDZ3 ай бұрын

    Bob never gave me this feeling ...

  • @sleepwalker7755
    @sleepwalker77555 ай бұрын

    Galatians 1:6-10 (NKJV) Only One Gospel 6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.

  • @drea7295
    @drea72954 ай бұрын

    Bob is ecumenical.he accepts all the heresies of all different scets and cults except the true faith.

  • @alandure
    @alandure5 ай бұрын

    Arul, my brother, I cherish you in the love of Christ. No one embodies perfection. Are we flawless in our beliefs? Only God embodies perfection. In this light, each of us could be considered heretical in one aspect or another due to minor discrepancies. Let’s seek divine guidance. I recognize your disappointment that Bob is reluctant for a personal discussion. I urge you to mend your relationship with your brother in Christ.

  • @jankobenson4109
    @jankobenson41095 ай бұрын

    Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. Proverbs 27:17. THE GOOD LORD has HIS own ways of getting all that HE loves ready for CHRIST'S soon return. JESUS is coming a lot sooner than we all think. GOD Bless you all.

  • @lynnewilkins0123
    @lynnewilkins012327 күн бұрын

    Christians must NOT engage in meaningless debates. It does not serve the gospel message. Take the gospel message unto nations. TELL people the good news, let the HEARING of the word circumcise the heart. Division amongst followers must be dealt with by church elders, not addressed publicly, do not put Christ into discord. There was disagreements amongst the disciples and Paul, Paul and Peter. People of God came together and talked. Ego is a terrible sin. The gospel message is servitude, humility. The amount of faith is not equal. One person chooses to not eat meat another eats meat. Diet clothes money skin colour culture unimportant in the new covenant. I pray you stop comparing. Hand this matter to God or his church elder.

  • @amissionforaj
    @amissionforaj5 ай бұрын

    ​@OperationStephen Amen brother Arul. The Apostles would not have stood for the majority of what happens at places at SC, let alone say that the RC system and its kin, are legitimately within the body of Christ. Whilst I do not doubt that there will be many in these systems that genuinely love our Lord Jesus, the fact of the matter is that we can have no partnership with the unfruitful works of darkness and that we should expose them, in order that those with eyes to see and ears to hear, know the truth and the truth shall set them free for the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ, *and none other.* I refuse to bow to 'traditions' that are outside of the inspired scriptures. The New & Everlasting Covenant is explained to us perfectly in God's inspired word. Any deviation from this must be scrutinised heavily, using the scriptures to filter out the sludge of man's sin and the advances of satan. The Lord Jesus did not compromise, He said to follow *Him.* The Apostles did not compromise on this approach after having recieved the Holy Spirit and so neither should we compromise. The Lord Jesus was absolute - He says that you are either with Him or against Him. And people need to have this right in their minds and not worry about the opinions of the crowd who have had the wool pulled over thsir eyes, via vain philosophies instead of having their eyes opened and minds renewed by the light of the Gospel, which is _the_ principle thing. Grace and peace from our Lord Jesus Christ be with you and your family my brother. Amen. ✝️🙏🏻

  • @christdiedforoursins1467
    @christdiedforoursins14674 ай бұрын

    Lets pray for Bob 🙏I do believe he is a Christian but is obviously from the Anglican church snd is growing in understanding,maybe not ready to be a teacher.

  • @patrickganess8557
    @patrickganess85575 ай бұрын

    Mr arul just let u know Hatun and Bob was at speakers long time before you others exposing Islamic false teaching .Yoy got a problem with Bob my advice to you is to go Bob and reason together and sort the problem. Don't bring reproach to the WORD OF GOD by fussing with each other in public.

  • @Angus1966
    @Angus19663 ай бұрын

    It began in Europe when the Romans annihilated the Druids

  • @costa328
    @costa3284 ай бұрын

    The book of Jude should be clear enough to warn that people from the beginning were spreading a false gospel.

  • @whatcanisay995
    @whatcanisay9955 ай бұрын

    This division is not good---divided we fall bro. The enemy laughs when it sees stuff like this, they know they are winning we they have us fighting against each other.

  • @anthonykenaley
    @anthonykenaley4 ай бұрын

    Any man who preaches a different gossipal is under the curse of god

  • @polarfamily6222
    @polarfamily62225 ай бұрын

    1 Timothy 5:19-20 These verses (among others) show that false teachers need to be called out and rebuked if they don't repent. I also pray that Atul and Bob resolve things well but if they can't then that which is wrong needs to be addressed. God gave us this responsibility.

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    So who do you think is wrong here.!!?

  • @polarfamily6222

    @polarfamily6222

    4 ай бұрын

    ​​@@mattpistachio5497can't you tell by my comment?

  • @anthonykenaley
    @anthonykenaley4 ай бұрын

    Study to be approved to god and not be shamed and rightly divide the word of god

  • @LookOutForNumberOne
    @LookOutForNumberOne4 ай бұрын

    13:06 You are absolutely WRONG as a so-called christian, Jesus NEVER said anything and what it was written was decades later. How, can a human be responsible for some writings that he never WROTE?????

  • @lucydean-bb4xs
    @lucydean-bb4xs5 ай бұрын

    You are nothing to him,,, he's so real

  • @jamesowen1213
    @jamesowen12135 ай бұрын

    Arul may Jesus give you ability to see your self as others might see you. Seek the imperfections in your self and support the lions not those who will try and destroy everything you believe in. Who knows what message the saviour has given Bob. You certainly don't have the wisdom to project Bob's Misson

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    Wise words James. Hope they read what you have written .

  • @urbandsouza7279
    @urbandsouza72795 ай бұрын

    Come on arul bible based have more than thousands of denomination which 2 cannot agree each other why

  • @bennyjoseph4935
    @bennyjoseph4935Ай бұрын

    I dont disappoint Arul. You can be very effective before non - christians.. So go on Arul. While you have an arrogant & rigid god Bob profess a generous & kind God. Debate between different sects of christians is a waste of time. It's not done through debate but with virtues...!Bob has done wisely by avoiding showdown with you.. So I have more praise for Bob than you. The one point I would make is by attending holy mass everyday you can have grace of God that saves you from the worldly dangers...

  • @ChrisS310
    @ChrisS3104 ай бұрын

    Bob endorses Sam Shamoun. Enough said.

  • @merajsamarasinghe985
    @merajsamarasinghe9854 ай бұрын

    Arul you have to keep aside your EGO and try to understand what BOB is saying......

  • @AM-mw2wu
    @AM-mw2wu5 ай бұрын

    If Bob is reading the comments section and you Arul, can the both of you get together over a coffee somewhere private. And talk things through. Maybe invite your friends from Speakers Corner to join you and have a private discussion together. We're all brothers and sisters in Christ and of course we'll disagree like families do. But the rest of us who are your family, would like you guys to have a discussion in private over a coffee or beer, whatever works for you. And talk things through. Do this for us as your extended family. It's not nice to see brothers unhappy with each other. So for us, please get together and have a private discussion over a beer or coffee. United we stand, divided we fall.

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    From what l have observed…Bob should not meet them now. Their approach is arrogantly portrayed and therefore would be counterproductive in promoting unity of intended understanding. They need to humble themselves for it to happen. I see cockiness which should not exist in a Christian setting.

  • @Jesusislord107
    @Jesusislord1075 ай бұрын

    The delusion of Bob who thinks people post videos to address his heresies in order to grow their channels 😅 seriously why not address the issues at hand instead? People's eternal destinities are at stake here but you dont believe in hell bob isnt it?

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    The word “delusion” could actually be thrown back at you too. Let’s hear your heresies also, about eternal destinies.!!?

  • @name-vx1od

    @name-vx1od

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@mattpistachio5497r u atheist?

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    @@name-vx1od …good question 🤓😁. I don’t know what l am.!! But what l know for certain …is that I LOVE JESUS and HE LOVES ME TOO. Am sure you get my drift.!! God bless.

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    Bob preaches a false gospel and encourages false gospels

  • @mattpistachio5497

    @mattpistachio5497

    5 ай бұрын

    @@kM-ij2ly …NO he doesn’t. It’s your ignorance that is false. Ask Jesus to help you understand and comprehend the deeper meanings of the Bible and of God. Don’t remain ignorant.

  • @ProfYaffle
    @ProfYaffle5 ай бұрын

    We don't support Bob blindly, Arul. You are making a huge assumption. I support Bob after orayer and consideration. I don't agree with everything he says but hey! Who agrees with everything anyone says? And which of us doesn't get stuff wrong?

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    Er many do support him blind this is a fact Ecumenical Christianity cannot work when denominations have different ways of getting to heaven

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    Many here support Bob blindly look at the comments

  • @order-sol0414

    @order-sol0414

    5 ай бұрын

    @@kM-ij2ly Yup they do. Its absolutely baffling to me how human beings can be so easily deceived by charismatic preachers. The Bible warns us about such persons who speak eloquently with vain philosophies of men.

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    How can you support Bob after prayer? He promotes church which preach different ways of salvation Roman Catholicism teaches faith and works saved same with Eastern Orthodox but their works are different Bible Christianity true Christianity teaches faith alone saves How can they both be correct?

  • @ProfYaffle

    @ProfYaffle

    5 ай бұрын

    @kM-ij2ly you misrepresent Bob. Shame on you. Bob preaches salvation by grace. Have you actually listened to him? On his most recent QnA even.

  • @user-rp3og5ny5m
    @user-rp3og5ny5m28 күн бұрын

    Bob did not meant to distract you Arul,the real enemy here is Islam

  • @ayeeye5567
    @ayeeye55675 ай бұрын

    When bob speaks about defining yourself based on what you are against, i'm pretty sure he is speaking on the differing opinions and understandings of scripture which in his view are not necessarily salvation issue.

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    Bob promotes churches which have different ways of salvation which is why ecumenical ideas fail

  • @ayeeye5567

    @ayeeye5567

    5 ай бұрын

    @@kM-ij2ly i don't believe he does, i would like to see an example.

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ayeeye5567 He promotes the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches. Both of which believe in faith and works for salvation ie to get to heaven the gospel. The Biblical churches which Bob claims he also represents believe in faith only for salvation. They cannot all be right and this is the very basics of Christianity what Christ did on the cross. This is why ecumenical ideas are not only unbiblical but illogical as well and Bob fails on both

  • @ayeeye5567

    @ayeeye5567

    5 ай бұрын

    @@kM-ij2ly the Catholic and orthodox Church doesn’t teach that we earn our own salvation, faith alone, and without works will not bring salvation. Because scripture says to “work out your salvation with fear and trembling” and “faith without works is dead” and also “a man is justified by works and not by faith alone” I don't really see this as a salvation issue.

  • @kM-ij2ly

    @kM-ij2ly

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes they do look at their doctrines

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