Who do you think 22 becomes? (Wall-E right? RIGHT?!)

@luv_lynnie

3 жыл бұрын

No 22 becomes Bob the Phoenix 😂

@FIRE-mx6vc

3 жыл бұрын

Obviously

@thespacesisters2031

3 жыл бұрын

Uhh... Yeah, 22 is defiantly Wall-E It makes perfect sense ✨

@alice6272

3 жыл бұрын

Ellie ❤️❤️

@darlinghippie2736

3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s going to be a character less obvious than you’d think

Crazy theory: 22 is Edna mode. She is punctual, extroverted, annoying, and loves to create the suit because she loves the supers ie watching other people fulfil their passions.

@rockyisboss1696

3 жыл бұрын

I love this!!!

@kiminimuchu__

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I second this.

@leilanibelanger9937

3 жыл бұрын

my thoughts literally went to Edna when i actually thought of who 22 could be

@planet_person9753

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right! Never thought of that

@magicalmagdad539

3 жыл бұрын

Yessssssss

Imagine avoiding going to Earth for millions of years just to end up being a robot on a deserted planet full of rubbish.

@ODST_Republic

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, that's a good point. If you think about it, that would be so sad for someone like that, who came to realize earth is "great" and being alive would be worth it. I dont think Pixar would do that to its own character, would it?

@xoxo.e10r4

3 жыл бұрын

Well technically she won't remember any of the memeories she made during the great before, so she won't be immediately dissapointed.

@ODST_Republic

3 жыл бұрын

@@xoxo.e10r4 I'm mean, still, it's a sad thing to do if Pixar confirms this being walle

@iamnotarobot3255

3 жыл бұрын

Being a robot isn't the worst possible fate!

@ataraxisdrizz7827

3 жыл бұрын

Okay yeah tho thats exactly what i was thinking

Maybe 22 was supposed to be Ellie and Carl's baby and because 22 didnt feel ready to be born, Ellie lost them.

@raineeholmes171

Жыл бұрын

That is so freaking sad to think about!!

@IrisSonata

Жыл бұрын

That-.. no... Just-... No . . X...D. . . .

@hunnyjar8937

Жыл бұрын

@@IrisSonata i mean the idea has ground, no?

@lucygodfrey8719

Жыл бұрын

thats so smart

@kennymorgan7709

Жыл бұрын

Awe thats so sad tho :(

I think 22's future identity has already shown itself in the movie as Connie. When 22 is in Joe's body and she talks to Connie, 22 remarks that they share a lot of similar ideas and have the same personality. It's like Connie is having spirit deja vu. 22 also remarks by the end of the film that she enjoys jazz among many other things. Kinda cool if you think that the universe put 22 inside Connie so that Joe could still be her mentor, and they could still see each other on earth.

@ib5299

9 ай бұрын

Yes , I thought about that all the time

@ethanulloa6359

9 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ Loves You!

@AE0N777

2 ай бұрын

@@ethanulloa6359 THE GREAT KABIR ISA

It's Riley from Inside out. The movie literally starts with her being born. She also fits all the personality traits pretty CLOSELY.

@barliestewart2789

3 жыл бұрын

And it’s written by the same director

@rebelking4096

3 жыл бұрын

and she also loves pizza.

@raihannashamsudin5843

3 жыл бұрын

When I first watched the movie it was EXACTLY what I thought

@carlos.martinez.rivera8309

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that too

@brunacastro6232

3 жыл бұрын

I thought Riley too but I would have thought maybe hockey would have made her interested in living

I thought Edna: She landed in Asia and Edna has Japanese heritage, she’s cynical, very punctual, and are around heroes all the time

@chimp5411

3 жыл бұрын

I can't unsee this now

@Benjamin1986980

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong universe and wrong tine. 22 landed in Joe's universe with no supers. Also, Edna would have been born in the 20s or earlier to be an old woman by the time the Incredibles happened.

@chimp5411

3 жыл бұрын

@@Benjamin1986980 but like they stated time doesn't really matter in the great before and just cuz we don't see heros doesn't mean they don't exist

@Benjamin1986980

3 жыл бұрын

@@chimp5411 I have to disagree with that analysis that time doesn't mean anything. Time might not technically flow in the great before, but causality between the before and the zone is consistent. 22 knew the hippies and messed with the artists in real time. that means time might not flow consistently, but it does flow in one direction. Therefore, there is no real way that she would be born back in time.

@chimp5411

3 жыл бұрын

@@Benjamin1986980 actually if you look at where 22 lands on the earth it's the afternoon but when Joe goes back into his body in about the same time he left if time were going forward this wouldn't happen because 22 is in Asia and Joe is in America

22 could be alberto from luca as he collects lots of stuff, he is extroverted, he is here to enjoy life and he enjoys seeing luca discovering for example. he can be pretty sinical (especially when he is betrayed)

@gigikju9934

2 жыл бұрын

…that actually makes sense… I kinda thought it was gonna be Guilia, but Alberto fits so well!

@kellymacaskill7592

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it might be

@freya6307

2 ай бұрын

But 22 is born in Asia. Not Italy

I watched Turning Red, and 22’s personality fits so well with Merlin Lee’s. She’s optimistic, energetic, and joyful.

@valentinaraffaelli7291

Жыл бұрын

it takes place in 2000's and soul takes place in 2020 and thats when 22 finally came to earth, so no. it could be, if it took place in 2020 instead of 2000's

From the moment the movie ended and we weren’t shown who 22 became, I automatically thought it was Riley from Inside Out. Dead give away is the way that Inside Out begins with Riley opening her eyes for the first time. Another clue is that 22 looooved pizza as Joe, Riley loves pizza and was horrified when she seen that SF puts broccoli on it, which the broccoli pizza made an appearance in Soul. Another clue that would kind of explain why Riley’s emotions (even though a theory video has been made) were multi-gendered unlike anyone else’s emotions in the movie, possibly because Riley’s soul (22) experienced being inside a male body, possibly feels those emotions from a males perspective? Also, both movies were directed by Pete Docter! I was quite shocked that Riley didn’t make the cut for this video, totally threw me a curve ball on this one 😅

@oddball_03

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking this too tbh

@DillonMaynard

3 жыл бұрын

I just realized the tech in Riley's mind looks very similar to everything in The Great Before.

@StarChild-uw4mm

3 жыл бұрын

I TOTALLY agree with you! Inside Out is my ALL TIME FAVORITE movie!!!! I love this!

@DillonMaynard

3 жыл бұрын

@foxquee They explained in the video that just because half the earth is facing the portal, it doesn't mean that's where the souls are necessarily going.

@ThatGuy-do7ul

3 жыл бұрын

@@DillonMaynard yeah they can get swooped around once they enter or something.

"22 is an extroverted, moody cynic who's extremely punctual." 22 is clearly Edna Mode.

@blixxae967

3 жыл бұрын

22 is definitely Edna Mode the proof is right here

@therealharrih9969

3 жыл бұрын

Yep I agree

@dovelyy

3 жыл бұрын

honestly tho how did they miss her

@thehappyelephant8868

3 жыл бұрын

Literally, the epitome of what fabulous means.

@AdamIshak01

3 жыл бұрын

I literally thought the same thing when I heard that!

When he first mentioned Wall E my first thought wasn't "does he have a soul?" It was "How would we go about applying 22's characteristics to a non-talking robot?"

@eglol

Жыл бұрын

xD PERFECT

I think that 22 is Walt Disney, meaning that “every” Disney main character is 22. I think this because Disney has always strived to be able to create something that appeals to the majority of people, and that they used 22 to show that you can become anything you want to be if your willing to explore new things

22 becomes Taylor Swift, she sang about it a while ago.

@foooooooooooooooooooooooooooox

3 жыл бұрын

O_O

@vixenretro

3 жыл бұрын

underrated comment

@Yessivids

3 жыл бұрын

😂👌🏻good one

@Johntrainorful

3 жыл бұрын

👁👄👁

@mrbigbanana8484

3 жыл бұрын

Their gonna make a soul 2

Crazy theory: She just becomes a random girl

@samiam5703

3 жыл бұрын

Possibly! But also could be a guy or something else. They just choose to sound like a middle-aged white woman because they think that voice annoys others the most.

@LOOWGV

3 жыл бұрын

aahh my personal favourite one

@hdemin6993

3 жыл бұрын

@@samiam5703 True

@jadegrant6535

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a Pixar film come on 😂

@kingboy6144

3 жыл бұрын

Or she becomes the cat since his soul was taken out and also souls can land at any point in time, so maybe 22 landed in the cats body the moment it was removed

22 is the uncle from Luca LOL when they kickstarted his heart again

After collecting all the different souvenirs, 22's passion became.... A hoarder!

Who Does 22 Become? Me: *23*

@foooooooooooooooooooooooooooox

3 жыл бұрын

Nah man I'm sold on the theory that she becomes 24

@wellplyd8110

3 жыл бұрын

@@foooooooooooooooooooooooooooox no its 25

@kiarak4948

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe 26

@craftmastr

3 жыл бұрын

@@foooooooooooooooooooooooooooox you know what's funnier than 24?

@ZoppaTheFurry

3 жыл бұрын

643

Fun fact: in the original script, Joe was going to take the job as a music teacher at the end of the movie and 22 would later on become a student of his, which they were going to hint that joe remembered them from someone.

@gametoonslogic3697

3 жыл бұрын

I did not know that that would've been cool.

@maba5082

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry I had to move likes from 22! Should I unlike it?

@gametoonslogic3697

3 жыл бұрын

@@maba5082 I don't think that's necessary...

@ultimatefangirl1663

3 жыл бұрын

That's a really great fact

@margaridabaptista3712

3 жыл бұрын

I was actually thinking about that in the middle of the movie! I kinda like the finale we got more though

I have a theory: can a plant have a soul too? I can’t help but wonder, what if WALL·E’s plant gained the will to live through interaction from himself or the humans. Think about it, once the humans started taking care of it, this plant that was falling apart, was able to grow into a full-sized tree. Just a thought

@queenperrytheplatypus458

Жыл бұрын

Plants don't have souls, they're just plants. And all plants are like that, then they're taken care of, they flourish, when they are abandoned, they die out. Pretty much basic plant 101

@snowbird1381

Жыл бұрын

@@queenperrytheplatypus458 that is not the point. In the pixar theory, humans can push soul power into other creatures and items like pets and toys, just by interacting with them. I just wondered if a random desk lamp possesses a soul, maybe the same concept was possible with a plant.

@queenperrytheplatypus458

Жыл бұрын

@@snowbird1381 I guess you got a point with that one

@valentinaraffaelli7291

Жыл бұрын

wall E is post apocalyptic so no. this is 2020 when soul 22 was born

@LukeDanielLight

Жыл бұрын

​@Queen Perry The Platypus Actually, there's some research that plants and trees interconnected with root underground share a certain nerve system, and they communicate as well. Take the Venus Flytrap for example

I like to imagine 22 living a completely "normal" life. It took many different lifetimes to see that 22 truly did belong on Earth after all.

“If any machine at all has a soul...it’s Wall-E.” Something tells me Lighting McQueen is not happy about this comment.

@pineapplepenguin1759

3 жыл бұрын

The cars are officaly confirmed to have biological organs such as brains, which means they are living creatures

@JediDrewsterT

3 жыл бұрын

@@pineapplepenguin1759 That still grosses me out

@TheMeliv

3 жыл бұрын

They eat gasoline?

@mdharv

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMeliv they are animated cars in a kids movie

@smartaleckduck4135

3 жыл бұрын

McQueen has life, *soul* is different

Imagine giving birth to a baby, and then it looks at you straight in the eye, and in an unenthusiastic Tina Fey voice says "googoo gaga"

@robinsonbright2671

3 жыл бұрын

0_0

@darkdanker2326

3 жыл бұрын

I would say Just like his daddy!

@chriswentz5197

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly i would laugh

@patatofreak6720

3 жыл бұрын

I would drop the the kid

@thegamematt7536

3 жыл бұрын

now, imagine the movie premise that follows

I love all the speculations. We don’t know who 22 would be, but we do know she would enjoy life to the fullest. We don’t need to know more, it’s a perfect ending.

I personally think 22 becomes the main character in brave (I forget her name).

@Evelin-qy1yn

2 жыл бұрын

Merida?

Imagine finally being able to go to earth after millions of years and you end up in a robot picking up trash it’s entire life

@wingsfeatherstalonsYT

3 жыл бұрын

but saving the world in the end

@tonyhou9246

3 жыл бұрын

Wall-e...

@mikshinee87

3 жыл бұрын

But then you meet the love of your life and everything changes.

It’s Ellie from “Up”. From the moment Carl met her, she was living her life with immense fascination and love for travel, and nature, which fits in perfectly with the traits of 22.

@joshuaroper9530

3 жыл бұрын

Moody?

@madamolivertwist5406

3 жыл бұрын

This makes so much sense

@kill4karma

3 жыл бұрын

That was my personal theory after watching the movie myself

@pivy7072

3 жыл бұрын

Omg. It's ellie. You're right!

@davydoomz

3 жыл бұрын

How would yall know Ellie isnt given a chance to develop in the movie Up. Too many loose ends to assume that imo

Theory: 22 might be Priya. We don’t know if she’s lived in Canada all of her life. She could’ve originally have been born in India and moved later in her life. That’s where it looked like 22 landed.

@Alisonsgachaverse

2 жыл бұрын

22 went closer to China tho from what I remember

@valentinaraffaelli7291

Жыл бұрын

remember that the movie turning red takes place in the early 2000's? they used "jokia" phones, and in the movie soul, all the people use smartphones. so that can't be possible, because soul takes place in 2020, not early 2000's

Is it just me by after watching this I can’t stop thinking 22 is Ellie

@kayleerosee.2844

2 жыл бұрын

me too ! they have the same love for life,,, idk i feel like it’s Ellie

You're getting 1 big thing wrong. A soul's spark isn't their purpose. It's just their desire to be alive

@Miss_Myth

3 жыл бұрын

While that's true, it's shown that there are specific things that give *fuel* to the spark. Certain behaviors or objects or habits - that's why they go to The Hall of Everything. If it were purely philosophical, they would just have conversations with the mentors instead of looking for specific things to light up the badge.

@penofwildfire

3 жыл бұрын

yeah I kept saying "He didn't get the movie, did he?"

@fours4ker381

3 жыл бұрын

The all spark is the history of transformers here on ea- Oh wait...sorry, wrong spark.

@jroberson108

3 жыл бұрын

The spark sounds more like a passion or desire for life. Without that desire to "do" or "act", you won't take birth to act out your desires. Of course 22 had a "desire" to be left alone and do nothing, so this other Earthly desire can be compared to a materialistic desire. It's almost as if you aren't allowed to just do nothing, that the nature of the soul is to be active and learn through experiences. Sounds similar to some of the teachings found in Hinduism and partially Buddhism.

@amyefting3225

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! The movie clarifies this at the end too... Well, they at least mention that is not a meaning or purpose. And how can a seed be a purpose? 22 didn't know anything else about it or what our would become so it's not like it's a spark for gardening or something. The spark is what makes you WANT to live. Something that finally hits the "I gotta find out more" button lol.

If 22 does end up being Wall-E, then that’s actually really sad. The whole reason 22 wanted to go to Earth was so she could live the life that she experienced in Joe’s body - eating pizza, enjoying music, etc. However, when she finally gets there, she finds that she can’t, because humans have destroyed the planet and there’s no hope for Earth. Imagine how heartbroken she would be. Maybe that’s why she collects all those souvenirs, so she would be able to live the life she had dreamed of as much as possible. Then again, she wouldn’t be able to remember anything from the Great Before and her time with Joe, so maybe she wouldn’t be doing this consciously. Maybe 22’s soul would do all these things subconsciously because while Wall-E wouldn’t remember anything, his soul, 22, would. Edit: God, can everyone please stop saying, “Oh there’s no way 22 could be Wall-E” in the replies. If you want to criticize the theory, tell that to SuperCarlinBrothers, not me! I’m not the one who came up the the theory.

@katjalouw918

3 жыл бұрын

Now I'm sad

@crazychimp1039

3 жыл бұрын

Wall e is a bot. Bots got no soul

@mid_professor

3 жыл бұрын

@@crazychimp1039 never know

@durasicgecko3263

3 жыл бұрын

Just finsihed assassination classroom 2 seconds ago no one asked but im in tears.

@dglover326

3 жыл бұрын

Kinda explains why Wall-E was into pop culture when I start to think about it

I think 22 is Connie the middle schooler that plays the trombone in soul. She seems moody and fits most of the categories, she also has interests in band/jazz. When 22 as joe talks to Connie about quitting trombone 22 and Connie have similar personalities options, they also have the same "mentors"

@irelandrain7458

2 жыл бұрын

That actually makes a ton of sense

@fatima-wq1iq

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and since there's no concept of time in the great before it's totally possible that 22 is Connie. And when Connie comes to Joe to quit, 22 even asks her if she likes pizza and Connie says she likes pizza.

@irelandrain7458

2 жыл бұрын

Woah! That's so crazy I forgot about that!

@bryannahorrell9315

2 жыл бұрын

But all 3 of their souls were on earth at the same time...

the first character i thought of was merida from brave, i dont know if merida is all that puntual but she sees the life different from her parents, she is kind of cynical too, and she is some times reckless, i think merida's personality match pretty well with 22, also she doesn't want to follow the rules and wants to know the reason behind the stuff her elders told her to do, as 22 they dont want to just blindly follow the rules, they want to know why they are forced to do things they do not find meaning to.

I feel like Wall-E isn’t supposed to have a soul but he got lucky

@juliedeckers1068

3 жыл бұрын

Wall-e isn't person, he's a robot

@Spazlites

3 жыл бұрын

@@juliedeckers1068 you must be a genius

@juliedeckers1068

3 жыл бұрын

@@Spazlites yeah, i'm thinking of starting a cult

@Fetthan

3 жыл бұрын

Or very unlucky. Poor soul that lives inside a robot

@juliedeckers1068

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fetthan hahah

I think the "spark" is the will to live. 22 didn't want to "live" on Earth until they tried it, which gave them the will to live.

@boop3nowurded538

3 жыл бұрын

Well, yeah, it's confirmed in the movie xp

@landlighterfirestar5550

3 жыл бұрын

@@boop3nowurded538 their “spark”... Is life!

@andreeacat7071

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine 22 gets depression and we get a sequel about them finding their spark again

@wyverntail1811

3 жыл бұрын

the spark is basically their consent to be born. they have to want it for it to happen.

@mr.imtrying5174

3 жыл бұрын

@@wyverntail1811 not exactly true, main character(idr his name) wanted to leave but couldn't, true it's a consent in sorts but it's only come once they find something that give them the will to live

Im just imagining him taking the time to reposition his chair every single line

My theory: 22 became Frank from Up. 22's struggle is learning who she is and accepting life. Her spark is just living with joy. Carl's struggle is loosing/regaining his spark and dealing with death. Aside from similar character traits, the films feel like thematic counterparts

Who's gonna tell him all teenage girls turn into red pandas...

@lilypotter8367

3 жыл бұрын

shhh they’re not supposed to know

@alliegoebert

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t you dare

@milenawittermans662

3 жыл бұрын

Delete this😳

@runningoncylinders3829

3 жыл бұрын

Is this a joke about that time of the month?

@thegreatkraken1278

3 жыл бұрын

God, you were supposed to keep it a secret!

One interesting bit about Soul is how it fits into Inside Out. Note that there are six pieces of an incomplete earth pass and five of those pieces are colored yellow, blue, green, red and purple. Does that sound familiar? Yes! Those are the colors of each emotion in Inside Out! So it appears that in The Great Before your soul has characteristics that become the personalities of each emotion which explains why emotions have different features in a young individual. Presumably, when a soul enters a body, it splits into the different emotions with those specific characteristics. Later as that individual grows, their emotions become unique to only that individual.

@everestcanyon5647

3 жыл бұрын

You should do a video on that.

@Lyza0327

3 жыл бұрын

What if 22 became Riley. I mean maybe the personality is different but the fact that the badge have the colors of the emotions and there was a movie about it, it could be a clue. Or I could be wrong idk 🤷🏻‍♀️. It could be a little Easter egg or something 🤔

@Tuzon15

3 жыл бұрын

First thing I thought when they didn't show who 22 had become is Riley. Partly because of her teeth lol

@christianmejia1853

3 жыл бұрын

@@everestcanyon5647 the rabbit hole keeps getting deeper

@ashcarter2907

3 жыл бұрын

So probably 22 probably becomes Riley? It would make sense

6:16 either that or the souls missed earth.🤣🤣

I used to follow your channel with my prev account before u guys even hit 500k, so proud to see you guys grow

I always thought 22 would end up being a new student in Joe's class and they would meet again at the end of the movie and recognize each other

@danielsloma1277

3 жыл бұрын

I was hoping for something like this or at least a flash forward to when 22s new body is old enough to find him if not in his class

@daniellecooper1766

3 жыл бұрын

They do meet again when they are in the zone

@brennar928

3 жыл бұрын

22 wouldn't remember the great before though so it would be impossible for them to find each other as joe wouldn't even know who 22 became

@dylandorris740

3 жыл бұрын

That was the original ending, so it's technically cannon :)

@solvemproblerstudios5889

3 жыл бұрын

@@brennar928 Joe could probably know- but she wouldn’t. It would be like the end of something like Jumanji or Tenet- where the main character meets the side character at the end. Alan meets Judy and Peter and they don’t remember him, and Neil tells the Protagonist that they actually will have an incredible Friendship- but when the Protagonist eventually meets Neil again in the future, Neil’s younger self won’t know who he is. Essentially- Joe gets this happy, feel good moment and a chance to guide 22, while she just meets a new friend.

I have two additions to the list: 1. Riley from inside out. Her emotions are both male and female, possibly because her soul spent time in a male body and has experienced emotions from both perspectives. (Side note: do emotions have souls, or are they just PARTS of souls?) She loves pizza, much like 22, and hates broccoli pizza, which is shown in the Hall of Everything. She is moody, cynical and punctual and lives in the moment. 2. Edna Mode from the Incredibles. Moody, punctual cynic? Check! Entire life purpose is making sure other people (supers) achieve their best selves? Check!

@DailyHoodDiscontinued

2 жыл бұрын

Does that mean Rileys parents are in there first life? Like her mom has all female emotions and her dad has male emotions

@Mus-T_Beats

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyHoodDiscontinued i thought when you die in soul you go into that big light and are destroyed

@FREAKOFNATURE-mb8oo

2 жыл бұрын

I'm betting on Riley

@anotherrandomyoutubeuser

2 жыл бұрын

So true

@anotherrandomyoutubeuser

2 жыл бұрын

@@FREAKOFNATURE-mb8oo me too

07:56 Turning Red takes place in the year 2002 in Toronto, Canada.🇨🇦

i love how j used they them prounouns it makes me feel seen

"extremely punctual" is a weird way to describe someone that has only ever existed in a place where time doesn't exist....

@tannerjenkins7692

3 жыл бұрын

22 wasn’t described as being punctual because of how they behave in the Great Before, she was assigned that trait remember? Nobody chooses their personality, all the Gerry’s assign them to u

My headcanon is that she’s a cook because of her love of food while on earth, so I like the Collette theory

@22mx82

3 жыл бұрын

Could be Riley, she loves pizza. Collette probably would be too classy, or fancy for a simple cheap pizza.

@linaaviles1971

3 жыл бұрын

@@22mx82 yeah, but 22 didn’t just like pizza tho. She basically liked any food she was given.

@hijabiart8653

3 жыл бұрын

When 22 is in the great before they show that they’ve tried cooking and baking and it wasn’t their spark

@linaaviles1971

3 жыл бұрын

@@hijabiart8653 the movie itself explains that the spark isn’t necessarily a passion. It’s more than obvious that her spark was actually witnessing real things and not the ones they showed her in the great before.

@rycall2595

3 жыл бұрын

Also they have the same teeth.

22 could have been the reason that Ellie wasn’t pregnant! All the Soups could have had pre-determined parents, but dodging the parents, she would get new parents pre-determined in the future!

“Who do 22 becoom…mba” 😅 I love the SCB.

I'm completely sold on the Ellie theory

@Silas_Part_1

3 жыл бұрын

hahahha yeah same but for those who don't remember who ellie is why don't you uh give em a refresher haha 😅

@noahrwil

3 жыл бұрын

@@Silas_Part_1 Carl's wife in up

@-ellieille-

3 жыл бұрын

Every time he said Ellie it startled me because that’s my name and I’m not used to hearing it so often 😂

@ellienewman1005

3 жыл бұрын

@@-ellieille- Samee haha

@pandaluverlily3038

3 жыл бұрын

I know right!

The Wall-e theory is convincing, but Ellie has just always felt right. Her personality just seems to match 22's.

@djamsquadddsquad8621

3 жыл бұрын

The first time I saw the movie I thought to myself that 22’s personality resembled Ellie’s so much. Their have the same thrill for nature and adventure. They are both very outgoing but very punctual.

@ThatOneLadyOverHere

3 жыл бұрын

@@djamsquadddsquad8621 Yes! Also, she's very loud and obnoxious, but very charismatic and has the ability to enthrall anyone listening. Also, they all clearly identify 22 as a she throughout the entire movie, so despite souls being "genderless," 22 is not, so I do think it matters for her.

@donutmaxgaming9674

3 жыл бұрын

The one reason I don’t think it is: in soul, there were modern phones. When Ellie was a kid, it was like, 1940.

@nintenaya137

3 жыл бұрын

@@donutmaxgaming9674 remember time doesn't exist in the great before, so she could have landed in 1346 or 4582for all we know.

@donutmaxgaming9674

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah

It seems like everyone forgot something. Your spark isn't your purpose in life, you get your spark when you're ready to come to life. It's not something to live to do, you're just ready for life. That's why Joe was willing to give 22 back their Earth pass, he'd figured that out. 22 could've found purpose in life through anything, they could've become a baker, or a mental healther worker, anything that they discovered an interest in during their life. My question is, what took 22 so long to be ready, what does it mean to be ready to come to life? It took them until they experienced actual life, not just the you seminar's recreations, to be ready for it. How have they been the only one to have to experience real life to be ready, how does being ready for life work?

@godoffire420yearsago

2 жыл бұрын

It could be like a leap of faith sort of thing. And 22 wasn't ready to leap yet.

This is such a great video, and I don't just mean the theory. The little jokes and line delivery is all just fantastic. I mean it's usually really good anyway but in this one it's just so wonderful. I feel like that doesn't get praised enough, I expect most comments are just focused on the theory itself. Great work, keep it up. :)

I think it’s pretty clear that 22 is Riley from Inside Out. Cynical? Check. Moody? Literally the whole movie is about her moods trying to sort themselves out. Punctual? Well, she pretty much immediately set up a pretty solid plan to run away from home once Anger gave her the idea. Plus the very first thing we see in the movie is a spirit enhabiting her body, and we watch 22 split into the different emotions the first time she eats pizza. And while you might think that Hockey is Riley’s spark, it’s actually pretty well explained that Hockey was something she decided to specialise in after receiving a core memory, not a spark, similar to how Joe specialised in Jazz after watching that one guy play

@celestemasis8532

3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree! I was surprised he didn't mention Riley become she seems like one of the top candidates if I'm honest.

@azka9451

3 жыл бұрын

Soul happened after 2016. While Inside Out took place in 2015 and that year Riley was 11 years old, So Riley was born in 2004. So 22 wasn't born as Riley

@hanbanan012

3 жыл бұрын

@@azka9451 What if 22 was Riley? Maybe that was before Riley was born? Idk

@azka9451

3 жыл бұрын

@@hanbanan012 Mohammad Ali was 22 mentors,and he died in 2016

@whiteblossoms4821

3 жыл бұрын

And then they show her soul and how she was born! :OOO YOU ARE SO SMART :D

Honestly, I just like the idea that 22 becomes a really skilled and successful mental health professional that saves numerous lives, teaches people to deal with whatever they’re struggling with, and helps countless people, not just their patients.

@marisolazteca3128

3 жыл бұрын

baymax? not pixar but still disney

@cyberlemon9840

2 жыл бұрын

@@marisolazteca3128 Wait, that would make sense...

@theREALsilviautism

2 жыл бұрын

@@marisolazteca3128 does baymax have a soul? oh boy

@Deady4u

2 жыл бұрын

​@@theREALsilviautism Maybe? Baymax is a robot like vision is a robot and you can definitely say that vision has a soul. Both characters care for their friends and family. You can say that baymax was programmed to do so, but vision was also programmed by Tony and Bruce. So yeah

@theREALsilviautism

2 жыл бұрын

@@Deady4u i don't know who vision is (sorry i'm an uncultured swine) but you do got a point there

My favorite is Wall-E and he's who I personal guessed before watching the video through, so hearing you talk about him as a potential body for 22 made me very happy cuz I just felt so perfect to me. Like, his whole character is about the kind of stuff that made 22 ready to live life. It's his personality. And I feel whatever gave them their spark is the same thing as what gives Wall-E his.

just wanted to say I really appreciate the use of singular they/them! thanks J and Ben!

Imagine if 22 became forky from toy story and that’s why he has the crisis because 22 knows what it is to be alive and stuff? Idk just spitballing but that’s be a cool theory to be fleshed out

@tonynardi172

3 жыл бұрын

THATS SO SMART

@Adam-ew7uv

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonynardi172 thanks 😅 I'm not smart enough to make a whole theory about it but the basis is there

@getmeouttahere1209

3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure humans give toys souls and they have their own soul realm

@13vatra

3 жыл бұрын

That's actually pretty horrifying when you give it some thought.

@FernandoJimenez-wi9th

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah definitely checks the annoying category

I'd like to point out that at the end of WALL-E when EVE kisses him to restore his memories (and thus, his soul, I guess), that kiss is represented by a spark. So there's definitely something to that.

@thegoose2630

3 жыл бұрын

After watching soul the first time I watched wall-e right after. Never connected that, good catch!

@kelsie434

3 жыл бұрын

And how the seed 22 caught was what gave her the “spark” and we see the same “spark” when wall-e finds the plant !

@dat1pengu1n

3 жыл бұрын

@@kelsie434 woah

@ShadowEclipex

3 жыл бұрын

@@kelsie434 Wall-E technically had his "spark" years, maybe even centuries before he found the plant.

@bleistift6113

3 жыл бұрын

Good connection but I don’t they were thinking that far ahead 😅

Background laugh was adorable.

I mean I’m not for sure how right this could be but could 22 be Edna Mode??

"who is 22" me: maybe it will show up in 2022...

@gigidee9985

3 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂

@pbandj9913

3 жыл бұрын

😹😹😹😹😹😹

@marsofthestars4519

3 жыл бұрын

Wait wait, you have a point

@TheRealYuckl3s_9000

3 жыл бұрын

😑 bruh

@eazy.y

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealYuckl3s_9000 it's a joke bud

Um, they state in the movie that your spark is not your “purpose”

@Candie1777

3 жыл бұрын

I keep thinking about this too

@carmenmercedes9903

3 жыл бұрын

OMG THANK YOU!! Every single video about this is like, "22's purpose is bleh bleh bleh" but like... They state *in the movie* that the Spark is you wanting to live

@carolinaxavier-walsh2330

3 жыл бұрын

They said they don't ASSIGN purposes- it means that they need to explore and enjoy every second of life.

@carmenmercedes9903

3 жыл бұрын

@@carolinaxavier-walsh2330 true. I feel like the "spark" is what that soul wants to try in life.

@nym0s177

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was my first thought when he kept saying that the whole point of the movie was that your spark isn't you purpose

He is going crazy so much I’m glad when a video with j comes out

2:48 I love the pronoun justification for 22 at this moment. Just because they were voiced by Tina fay doesn’t mean they are a “girl”

@hawke4753

2 жыл бұрын

She is a great character

@spaceunicorn8137

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawke4753 Did you even read the comment you replied to?

@hawke4753

2 жыл бұрын

@@spaceunicorn8137 yes, that was the whole point

@spaceunicorn8137

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawke4753 What point?

When mentioned in the movie that Joe had a friend whom he liked and possibly could love I liked the idea that 22 could possibly be Joes future child. Especially since the great before isn't like anywhere in time

@ThatGuy-do7ul

3 жыл бұрын

exactly, with how obscure that person is otherwise, ii feel like its a hint or foreshadowing. i was surprised and annoyed to not see a black fade/flash to the end of them holding a moody baby girl that's obviously 22 but its not directly said. that kinda ruined the end for me and made me disappointed in the entire movie and creators even tho I still enjoyed it.

@geanbean1305

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, cuz remember in the movie, how many times 22 mentions “that lady” he likes, so it would be so sweet if she ended up being his future child ☺️

@mayalovebug8732

3 жыл бұрын

As I absolutely love this theory, I feel like there's some holes in it. Yes there's no time in the Great Before, she eventually went down before Joe. Joe resumed his life right after she went down to earth to be born and where she was being pulled to wasnt anywhere in the states where Joe lived in New York. Again not trying to correct anybody, I'd absolutely love to see this happen. I just think it's a stretch in the theory, but this is why we all love theories❣ Edit:Sorry I went all logical there I just love having these conversations

@sadespain2339

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but she went down to earth shortly before he came back the second time.

@geanbean1305

3 жыл бұрын

@@sadespain2339 the great before and beyond are out of time and space, so it wouldn't matter ☺️

Soul question: Why is the cat still alive? The cat's soul got pushed out and replaced by Joe's. Then, we watch the cat's soul move up the conveyor belt toward the great beyond. By the end of the movie, Joe gets his body back, and so does the cat? Assuming that the cat went to the great beyond, did the cat's soul really come back? Or, did another soul inhabit the cat's body (human or cat)?

@foooooooooooooooooooooooooooox

3 жыл бұрын

I really don't know.

@sarahh2781

3 жыл бұрын

cats have 9 lives :)

@roshniprasanna9692

3 жыл бұрын

Remember Terry being very meticulous about his job.. my guess is that he knows that the count is still off... He must've noticed that when the cat got pushed in the great beyond the count got restored but that missing soul is still out there.... Think about it.. when Joe got back to the great beyond thing the count should've been off again cause the count would show one extra soul.. the cat... But we don't see that happening... So my guess is that Terry must've returned the cat's soul back when Joe came out of it's body

@Texasthebigboss

3 жыл бұрын

@@roshniprasanna9692 I was thinking the same thing

@RikuKingdomHearts_II

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking maybe the cat had 9 lives? And that was just one of them gone 😆

I hope as more disney pixar movies come out, you revisit this theory and update it with more clues and stuff

I like the theory where 22 becomes dory... Extroverted definitely fits, while the others don't necessarily fit, I like to think the punctual bit is a nod to her having short term memory loss and forgets where they meet and that why they have marlin... Also purple eyes, and likes to collect purple shells...

I think I like Ellie as the best candidate. It feels even more special having that extra part of getting to know who she was before and I think it fits perfectly 💕

@emilybeaty27

3 жыл бұрын

And it's cute to think that because she came when she did, she got to be with Carl. If she had come earlier like she was "supposed to", they would have missed each-other, maybe?

So jerry calls 22 a her when “she” gets “her” earth pass. Actually I’ve heard a couple characters call 22 female.

@charly2271

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's the personality/gender 22 chose for herself. But that wouldn't prevent her/them from being born in a male presenting body or a machine. So... Just a thought 🙃

@asunflower7993

3 жыл бұрын

@@charly2271 yeah because she/they could be trans but it's also possible that 22 is non-binary and goes by all pronouns but I would assume it's probably she/they or she/her

@sam4gaming135

3 жыл бұрын

Considering they made a soul an manipulative megomaniac, and are like "oops but it ain't our problem" could suggest that when they put a soul in the wrong body, they don't care

@jaykatara5467

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly think that 22 was only referred to as she/her was because they had a feminine voice, which they even admitted at some point was just a random decision they made and they could have easily had a male voice

@ThatGuy-do7ul

3 жыл бұрын

@@sam4gaming135 exactly. and we watch stuff like this as its normal, but when we think of it with real people we forget and shun them. ironic.. lol but yeah they didn't seem to care that 22 was in the dudes body, they cared that the dude was still alive and his soul not going to the beyond cuz of THE COUNT. and that's literally it. the jerries didn't care so much as terry (?) did. finally they decided to rebel against the spoiled terry and say what ever this is our little secret haha! , they also probably don't think the human body should define you, the person, mind, ego, soul etc, because you =/= not your body. (unless you decide such for yourself,alone.) because they know there is more. humans don't but should..

I don't have any good evidence but the thought of 22 becoming boo and then becoming the witch from brave just makes me happy.

maybe 22 becomes a random person in the pixar universe which we never have seen and never will see

Russel from Up. The symbolism with the badges, excited about “life”, one of the only Asian characters in Pixar.

@chileanyways196

3 жыл бұрын

Ooh good theory

@marissahemp78

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

Him: If you ever question if Walle has a soul, how dare you. Film Theory: 😐

@deku-qz7hg

3 жыл бұрын

Matt pat is coming

@GayRhythmGamer

3 жыл бұрын

Wall-E best robot

@toaster1443

3 жыл бұрын

Why do I hear running and boss music

When you brought up 22 collecting souvenirs around 3:06 it sold me on Wall-E

These are fun theories but I thought the point of the sparks in the movie was that they weren't a person's talent or lifelong passion but rather their will to live. This is why Joe was disregarded by the spirits when trying to find out "what" 22's spark was and why he got scoffed at when trying to explain that piano was his pre-birth spark. Therefore, the spark itself shouldn't need to come into play when thinking about who 22 could have become. It doesn't matter what gave them the will to live pre-birth, the only thing that matters is that they wanted to live.

When I first saw 22 I thought that they would become Joe's future child

@acecashman1237

3 жыл бұрын

I think if they ever do a sequel, that could very well happen

@SuperSwordman1

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone seemed to.

@lucyicanel

3 жыл бұрын

When I first watched this with my family, we thought that 22 was going to be one of Joe's students.

@avanicole6700

3 жыл бұрын

I’d like but this has 22 likes

@sinderbloq6466

3 жыл бұрын

I like to think 22 became Joe himself based on the way time works in the soul world

I was hoping that there would be a flash forward to Joe having a kid, and it was insinuated that 22 became his kid. Obviously that didn't happen.

@arbol8813

3 жыл бұрын

That would be weird imo

@mariaw8596

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@theteacupbunny632

3 жыл бұрын

I hoped that, too!

@honque2490

3 жыл бұрын

Would be good for a sequel.

@unchartedchartz

3 жыл бұрын

@Vintilique time doesn't exist in the great before, so she could've been born at any time, including a few years in the future.

Ellie be like: Family is the greatest adventure of-Oh no THE GROUND

imagine the ending would be like this : its been 10 years after the incident happened, joe accept the position of middle school teacher and there's a new students sign in for music lessons, when Joe sees the student, he felt like some sorta connection going on between the two of em and outta no where, leaf blooming to his class from the window...(it was a hint where the students was actually 22) and Joe give a warmful smile...the end

"If any machine has a soul at all it's Wall-E" The Iron Giant: Am I a joke to you?

@13KuriMaster

3 жыл бұрын

Course not..... but Wally comes before you in the soul order.... sorry IG.

@starlightarises7140

3 жыл бұрын

*angry Mettaton noises*

@Antasma1

3 жыл бұрын

@@13KuriMaster Can't say for sure

@redfox3396

3 жыл бұрын

Best Ending Connor, Kara, and Markus from Detroit Become Human would like to know your location.

@VoaThiagao

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Iron giant btw I HATE U

Ok that Catch 22 joke was absolutely nuts. I think 22 becomes Yossarian

@jamesthanoob

3 жыл бұрын

Who is Yossarian?

@jamesthanoob

3 жыл бұрын

Who is Yossarian?

@quack4760

3 жыл бұрын

yeah i hope most people got that joke

@starsandsuch7778

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesthanoob haha he’s the main character of the book Catch 22, not a pixar character or anything!!

At 3:15, with what you brought up about "watching others find their spark" and picking up things from everyone along the way, I'm saying Mirabel Madrigal and you can't change my mind 😂

Comment on this The Great Before is the absolute greatest place for 22. A never ending task of experiencing others passions through the tutors who keep getting sent to him. When he gets to live, he realizes there are much more of these on earth. He also realizes that he doesnt need to have them given to him, on earth he can see them on his own

I want 22 to be herself. If she must be a previously seen character, then she’s either Riley, because Soul is a direct sibling to Inside Out, or she’s Merida. Because of the Pixar Theory, 22’s personality, and the little seed pod that I believe was her spark. It’s nature and just gave me super Merida vibes.

@fabplays6559

3 жыл бұрын

Remember that 22 doesn't really have a gender. They may "sound" female, but souls can sound whatever way they want. Once they are born, they could be a man, a woman, anything.

@jobroray

3 жыл бұрын

@@fabplays6559 So did Pixar secretly just introduce the first non-binary person in Pixar? 😂

@Sghgyv

3 жыл бұрын

JoJo Ray technically? Well non-binary until birth ig

@amyturner2034

3 жыл бұрын

Ok it HAS to be Riley! I didn’t even think of that!! We see that Riley has different gendered emotions, hence showing that they are not necessarily a girl. Maybe 22 is hammering home this fact in the fact that they say that they don’t really have a gender yet. And if they are sister movies, this makes even more sense. We don’t really see TOO much about Riley, because it’s mostly what’s going on in their head that’s focused on, but it makes perfect sense that 22 would be Riley.

@FrknDonuts

3 жыл бұрын

@@jobroray well- 22 isn’t even a person yet.. it’s a soul.. nothing wrong with what you said but 22 is a soul

Omg I did not even realize the whole slight “catch 22” reference until now!

@nickvliet4614

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't realize until I saw this comment I thought he had the aha moment because he thought of another theory

@nicholaslash8760

3 жыл бұрын

Usually they try to trick 22 in marriage and that's how he gets caught.

10:19 Colette: I will [OOF] you!

When you mentioned the movie coming out in 2022, I checked the date of the video, only to realize I was watching it exactly a year after it was posted. Which is super surprising.

What about Coco, she didn’t care that Miguel was playing music, as long as he was following his passion.

I honestly want 22 to be their own character but a lot of characters here are pretty convincing

@thenlcholas

3 жыл бұрын

Good point too.

@jiyakuches220

3 жыл бұрын

That would be huge possibly to, instead of characters which showed from thumbnail.

@cloudyskies55055

3 жыл бұрын

Same

I was thinking wall•E the whole time! So glad you said him!

22 is Riley from inside out. Watch when 22 jumps to earth and when Riley was born. It lines up

I just wanted to point out that the whole "cooking isn't 22's spark" point doesn't actually matter since (at least how I interpreted it) the movie seemed to suggest all sparks are the same. It's not a purpose in life it's more of a want to live. Again, I could have just completely misinterpreted what Jerry was saying, but I don't think the fact that Colette is a chef means anything in this case. Though with that being said, it's definitely Wall-E.

@acecashman1237

3 жыл бұрын

No, you're indeed correct. 22 just didn't care about living until they got a taste of living first-hand through Joe's body.

@xzandergraves2413

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus loves you fam frfr no capping He also died for our sins no cap

@xzandergraves2413

3 жыл бұрын

He can also make your lives much much easier

@arbol8813

3 жыл бұрын

@@xzandergraves2413 nobody is talking about Jesus

One thing I didn’t like is how the claim was made that a spark has a purpose. It was made super clear that the spark isn’t just the person’s passion. It is the soul finding excitement in life. A spark that can lead to anything. It is the soul realizing that anything in life can provide meaning to it. I think the personality traits that would influence the person they become. The spark just ensures that they understand why they exist

@miriamrosemary9110

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@tiruthefolt6059

3 жыл бұрын

That was a huge point in the movie! Joe THOUGHT that’s what a spark was, until he was told that a spark was a passion for life itself, not just on thing! You weren’t meant to like what he said 😂

@DopeClouds

3 жыл бұрын

Wait... What??

i seriously would love this channel if he just brought the energy down like 50 notches , just seems so kid targeted which i’m sure it is but these videos are extremely entertaining

i don’t think any other movies would make a 22 character

Ben and J should definitely react to the ratatouille musical

@flameheart274

3 жыл бұрын

yessss!!!

@nishkp99

3 жыл бұрын

Thought u were bruhify

@tornadotaylor8956

3 жыл бұрын

The what?

@calamaribowl8683

3 жыл бұрын

The WHAT

@25thhanabusa69

3 жыл бұрын

The what????

“...they collect a little souvenir to commemorate the experience...” Wait...22 is Voldemort?!?!

@BelcarrigFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Always has been

@BelcarrigFarm

3 жыл бұрын

Pixar theory has Harry Potter

@alonelytuba

3 жыл бұрын

I mean it's pretty obvious

@BelcarrigFarm

3 жыл бұрын

@@alonelytuba PRETTY OBVIOUS

I think the coolest thing about 22 is the fact that because they are still coming out with Pixar movies who is to say that we just have not met them yet