Lotr is the sort of work where almost every question has to be answered with "alright, so this is how the universe was created, and then..." and I love it

@nilsd2112

3 жыл бұрын

Start with The Hobbit". It´s a nice and short read.

Can I just take a moment to give props, not just to your deep and immense knowledge of Tolkien lore.. but for the time taken in making it accessible to those interested folk who seek to know more?

@erionmazzoni2607

Жыл бұрын

46:30 4dt34rd g😅463🎉tg4😢rr45

Mr. Philosopher Sir... I read the Lord of the Rings series several times. Silmarrillon(sp?) a couple times too. I've played the Avalon Hill lord of the rings table top game Battle for Middle Earth dozens of times in high school. Or course I've seen the various movies including the horrible Rankin Bass effort... I understood more about Gandalf, the Istari, Sauron and the Elves from watching this video than ever have before. You somehow revealed the connections and origins of so many things in a clear easy to understand way. You're videos have made my experience of Tolkien's masterpiece richer and more interesting. I can't wait to go back and re-read them all again. Thanks for all your hard work... Great job!

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, happy that it had this effect and much appreciated :) Tolkien's work is so vast and rich in detail, that connecting them is often very difficult. It takes a ton of research and thinking for me too and I also miss things. So I can relate to this, but I think I'm quite good at explaining complex things in videos.

@eliezerdemoura5495

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePhilosophersGames You have done an amazing job...... I have read the books and watch the movies........but your videos help me connect them all........I appreciate your work and THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS SERIES SOOOOO MUCH MORE INTRIGUING AND FUN. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR THOUGHTS AND INTERPRETATIONS AND ACCEPT THEM AS MY OWN. Wonderful job!

@lostsoulsthc7137

3 жыл бұрын

Got some of his short stories and just started war of jewels never finished simirillion

@lostsoulsthc7137

3 жыл бұрын

And pass on the spelling lll

@thesandmancurtballirg4371

3 жыл бұрын

Totally feel the same way. Tolkien told an epic of epic stories here. Comparable to all mythologies and extended religious stories, inc. The Bible.

Gandalf: *exists* Saruman: I'm about to en- Gandalf: I'M ABOUT TO END THIS MAN'S WHOLE CAREER!

@blitsriderfield4099

4 жыл бұрын

thanks for the heart

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

haha no problem ^^

I first became familiar with Tolkien's work as a child from that old cartoon movie that they made based on the Hobbit. It was pretty funky but The story was unreal. 10 years later A nice book lady introduced me to the author with LOTR. Have read them many times since then.

Everyone is always asking "Who is Gandalf?" Celeborn was asking "Where is Gandalf?" ...Why does no one ever ask "How is Gandalf?"

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

:D

@user-zm1rq6xj9v

4 жыл бұрын

I'll do you one better: "Why is Gandalf?"

@ModernRefugee

4 жыл бұрын

Or why is Gandalf.

@eskerrit

4 жыл бұрын

Because Gandalf is precisely as he should be!

@michaeldriggers7681

4 жыл бұрын

These questions are also often asked in regards to Carmen San Diego, and Waldo.

This is by far the best Tolkien Lore video I've seen so far.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Remeber also Saruman had the special ability to use his voice effectively to sooth, convince and manipulate the minds of elves and men. So he used his voice against Radagast, and to some degree against Gandalf, Galadriel, and Elrond. i suspect he tried to do the same to Sauron through the Palantir, but Sauron also being an artful deceiver, saw right through Saruman.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Yes a very good point. He was definitely good at convincing people.

@_Kadiri_

6 жыл бұрын

According to Aragorn, The there are only 3 people in middle earth who can resist Saruman’s speechcraft ; Elrond, Galadriel and Gandalf.

@Shaden0040

6 жыл бұрын

Resist, as in can, at times, prevent being taken in by the spell voice. He didn't say they were completely immune to it. Also can you cite the book and page number, please? I'd like to find that passage myself.

@_Kadiri_

6 жыл бұрын

Shaden0040 “Once he was as great as his fame made him. His knowledge was deep, his thought was subtle, and his hands marvelously skilled; and he had a power over the minds of others. The wise he could persuade, and the smaller folk he could daunt. That power he certainly still keeps. There are not many in Middle-earth that I should say were safe, if they were left alone to talk with him, even now when he has suffered a defeat. Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel, perhaps, now that his wickedness has been laid bare, but very few others.” - Aragorn, The Two Towers, "Flotsam and Jetsam"

@gregorymacdonnell7914

6 жыл бұрын

+Shaden0040 Yes ,very true! Yet only Elrond ,Gandalf and Galadriel became quite aware of their earlier mistake in listening to Saruman,as he dissuaded them from completely destroying Sauron when they had him there to destroy in Mirkwood in his little stronghold Dol Guldur in 2851 3rd age. Saruman then goes to Isengard ,and is secretly looking for the 1 ring.He is indeed afraid of Gandalf,as he knows he is the Wisest of All the Istari ,and he wears the ring Narya,the Elvish ring of fire."Wielder of the Secret Fire,wielder of the Flame of Anor", (Gandalf tells the Balrog in Moria). Cirdan knew that Gandalf was the greatest of the 5 Wizards as he meets him and gives him the ring upon his arrival in the Grey Haven.

"Smoking the Halflings' Leaf helps me keep calm and patient" Today we know that leaf by many other names...

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

haha yes. Got a question surrounding this a few times, but Tolkien describes it as tobacco or Nicotiana. He was a pipe smoker himself. Quote from the LotR Prologue: There is another astonishing thing about Hobbits of old that must be mentioned, an astonishing habit: they imbibed or inhaled, through pipes of clay or wood, the smoke of the burning leaves of a herb, which they called pipe-weed or leaf, a variety probably of Nicotiana.

@BertGrink

4 жыл бұрын

@Al Bundy you forgot "The Devil's Lettuce" hehe

@mrs.schmenkman

4 жыл бұрын

Tolkien _specifically_ stated that it is NOT Cannibis. He wasn't too thrilled that the American students who were his fanboys in the late 60s had taken it to be a approval for smoking weed.

@sandiehiti5008

4 жыл бұрын

tee hee hee. Want world peace? Dump THC in the water supply.

@jamiecullum5567

3 жыл бұрын

@@sandiehiti5008 thc is only activated by heat.. Putting it in water and drinking it would be a huge waste of thc

I'll tell you what hes not. A conjurer of cheap tricks!

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

haha well palyed

@tiitto167

4 жыл бұрын

@G E T R E K T 905 for even the very wise can not see all ends.

@derricklarsen462

4 жыл бұрын

Gandalf is here to help us☺

@chriskelly3481

4 жыл бұрын

🤣👍

@beyondthecamera333

4 жыл бұрын

MrMasterninjakiller I laughed so hard

This is such a complex story that it is impossible to go a full llifetime w/o having to revisit these books, unfinished stories, movies and many discussions. Thank you for clarifying the important aspects of Eru's timeline. These are presented as stories within stories. Tolkien was brilliant. He drew on his own imagination as well as the collective unconscious. And I love how he had Eru/Valar challenge the Maiar by depowering them (not just masking their full power but actually giving these celestial beings room to grow) and introducing them to guiding Middle Earth to the Age of Men as opposed to destroying Middle Earth before it had chance to evolve. Also giving them to walk among them more as equals and beings they could empathize with...and manipulate. IMO, his "evil trinity" has to be Melkor, Sauron and Feanor, whose hubris made him evil enough to affect all of Middle Earth negatively. Finally, it's hard not to imagine that Tolkien's experiences in World War I didn't concretize this multi-epic myth.

Don't worry so much about repeating yourself please my friend: it helps us keep the context, it helps us learn and it helps us to remember.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

That is true ^^ But I knew it would have been smarter to upload this as 4-5 different videos, but I wanted to know, if I can make it work in one and I think it worked out quite well, but some people won't like the repetition too, so i put out a warning. It also often comes down to the magic of video. When I just had he script and was reading it over and over, it felt a bit repetitive. but when you start editing and see the final result I'm often surprised that my concerns are no longer there. The visual layer of the medium magically improved everything or made it smoother. Hard to explain. I really had videos where it thought: oh boy this is will be my worst video. The text is bad. But after editing I really liked it.

@redthered585

3 жыл бұрын

Foreal.... alot of times the short synthesizes fills in a whole bunch of holes in contexts I don't know or forget

@spadejaiwak7897

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePhilosophersGames i totally agree with him. do not worry about repeating yourself. if anybody having trouble or do not like it, they can skip to the next part or go someplace else... most know that its hard not to repeat some of these because almost all the characters and what they are doing are link together.

One more brief point about Cirdan. He does not get much stage time but might be one of the oldest elves in all Middle Earth. Possibly a member of the first generation of elves.

@jamiecullum5567

3 жыл бұрын

Its difficult to know if he is the eldest, definitely very old. But before the time of the sun, or the start of the first age, during the time of the trees, time was not necessarily counted in the same way. Days could have been longer or shorter. Pretty sure in the sillmarillion they mention that to begin with the sun and moon never shone at the same time.. But because the maia of the moon tried to reach the sun, cause he felt like it, not exactly sure why. the set up was changed so the sun and moon appeared together for a time each day (twlight) we dont know how long this took to happen. All of this means giving the oldest elves (cirdan, galadriel) an age is almost impossible

These days; what with the way YT's algorithm behaves- I am loathe to give anything a thumbs-up, but this effort deserves one! Consider it as good as a subscription- because it will continue to recommend your work to me.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, much appreciated :)

Three guys go on a hiking trip. One guy comes back, the other two are never heard from again. Saruman was a busy little boy.

I miss the old days when I played AD&D with my friends baring the name of Sauron and feeling his effect on my teenager mind as if he truly existed . The video and the great quality of the pronunciation of the words brought some of those sweet memories back.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

haha thank you ^^ I still play table top RPGs today (even with some of my old friends from school), sadly very infrequent and much shorter sessions.

@RayJackson88

4 жыл бұрын

@Possumlove No, he's right; the "A" stands for "Advanced"

@James-dc3yt

4 жыл бұрын

@Possumlove Its called Advanced Dungeons & Dragons and it was released in 1977. AD&D 2nd Edition in 1987

@valoriel4464

4 жыл бұрын

@@RayJackson88 and here I'm relating the added A to ADD (attn deficit didorder) lol. working in psych field a long time takes it's toll.

It took me a while, but it's finally done: a new lore video. This time about the Istari - the wizards in Lord of the Rings. Did not expect it to become this long. Sadly, I had to repeat myself a lot, because I wanted each section to work alone and also their stories are tied to each other, but often take different branches. There is also a strange background noise at some point (it's not that loud), but it goes away soon. No clue what caused it. I hope you like it :) Also Note: - the r is rolled :D - there are probably a few mistakes PS: Correction: - Somewhere in the video I say It's ofc Bilbo's 133rd birthday. It's Frodo's 33rd birthday and ofc Bilbo's 11th. Both were born at the same day: 22nd of September. I mixed up the numbers, sorry! - probably more :P

@zachstevens7382

6 жыл бұрын

ThePhilosophersGames wow.... 70 + minutes long? really going all out bro... nice :)

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Yes. Originally I planed a 30 minutes video. Well that did not work out ^^

@Brinta3

6 жыл бұрын

And now your comment to correct things says 11th. That’s quite young! ;)

@EricKorbly

5 жыл бұрын

ThePhilosophersGames this is great!!!! Thank you for these fabulous summaries ! I love them

@supershenron9162

5 жыл бұрын

Its funny. Both my father and sister where born September 22nd O:

This guy is awesome. He even pronounces all the names correctly!!! Tolkien would be so honored and proud.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) Ofc there are some small mistakes here and there (I often mess up the stress), but still a lot of time went into researching the pronunciation over the years, so much appreciated ^^

@darioluque9079

3 жыл бұрын

You're right. It is /'valar/ instead you say /va'lar/. But I as my mother tongue is Spanish as I say it perfectly

In Finnish mythology and lore, words, speaking and singing have power. So we understand Tolkien's poems and songs quite well. As well as the context of Middle Earth and Arda.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Yes the Finnish language and mythology was a very big influence of Tolkien. In addition it's quite interesting, that you find those elements also in the Old Germanic cultures, I think an indicator for how close and connected many European regions are in history.

@veli-pekkakultanen2353

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's why we like different languages, the meaning and origin of words etc.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Yes that's possible :)

@veli-pekkakultanen2353

6 жыл бұрын

I was born with white hair, seems I will die with white hair and beard.

@TheEvolver311

4 жыл бұрын

Thats true of most classical cultures words have the power to curse or bless, writing is magical etc...its why in the bible they will often reference a passage related to what is trying to be achieved its sympathetic magic

So glad this channel exists

Loved this video Games!!! I honestly love the way Tolkien portrays Wizards in his works and are honestly some of my most favorite in both his works and Fantasy in general and thanks for perfectly explaining their lore and back story anyway loved this lore video and can't wait for the next one!!!! :)

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks :) Yes I like them too and Tolkien was very influential with them.

@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773

6 жыл бұрын

ThePhilosophersGames Your welcome and that's very true :)

Since Tolkien wasn’t really trying to write a story, but rather give England what he saw as a lost history, I’d like to offer up how Gandalf’s wisdom is demonstrative of magic as seen by the ancient view of magic. Tolkien had great difficulty defining magic when asked to define the boundaries of Faerie, but based on his writings about Gandalf and what he was able to say about Magic, (plus his insistence on using the Old English Spelling of the word) it is easy to see his concept of Magic more closely matched those of the Ancient World where Magic was the "Great Work" or the work of the "Wise." In ancient days when people really believed in magic and magical beings such as witches and wizards, there weren’t really “great powers” and spells like we see in so many fantasies and fictions today. In fact, the word magic stems from a title that used to be used for people that practiced Zoroastrianism and could read the stars for signs. The three wise men that brought gifts at Jesus’ birth are also referred to as the three Magi. Magic came from knowledge of the world. Early wizards, druids, shaman, witches, priests, etc. often knew some chemistry or mechanics (this was the showy part of being a temple priest-mixing the right chemicals and using the right mechanics to make the people think they'd seen signs of the power of the Gods) and had some skills we wouldn’t consider magic at all today. Even Gandalf’s “spells” that he casts and items like his fireworks are related to this aspect of ancient magic. Magical peoples were usually the religious leaders and were seen as leaders in that sense. Some of them were seen as able to talk to, or raise the dead, some were seen as prescient, and others were healers-it depends on the culture you look at. By the Middle Ages, magic was seen as having two distinct forms, although there was more of a focus on evil and sorcery (the daemonic form of magic) within the church, belief in natural magic by the people as a way to find healing and protection also remained. Casting coins into wishing wells, Patron Saints and many of our "superstitions" are hold overs from this time. The magic that remained acceptable to all but the most staunch Christians remained rooted in use of natural elements (In northern Europe, particularly in relation to water - wishing wells and healing powers). Additionally, many Christians of the common classes still practiced some “magical rituals” and the Church even placed its holidays near pagan holidays and rolled pagan practices into Church practices (to some extent) in order to help in converting the general populace. Tolkien’s wizards are in keeping with early Medieval and ancient tradition. They can read signs in nature-see and understand things that others can’t, make predictions, wield magical objects (staffs, rings, and Palantir), once in a while make something appear to have happened that is miraculous to everyone else (spells), and lead and “talk to nature”-communicate with moths and eagles and in Saruman’s case the corvids of Middle Earth. Ancient wizards were guides mostly and seen as the highly educated. Gandalf clearly fills that role, and does so with superb skill. He takes hints and clues, a suspicion grows and he heads to the library to confirm it. He is able to read signs of things to come, knows the right words to say (not just when it comes to spells but to ease fear and encourage, knows when not to say something. He is seen as a wise man and followed as one. If you read Arthurian legend from before the twentieth century, you will generally find Merlin to be no greater in his capabilities. They wield the magic of earth, but not necessarily for the purposes of entertainment or convenience the way the wizards and witches in say, Harry Potter, Disney’s Sword in the Stone and other more modern works depict. Likewise, Saruman is able to use his closeness to nature to affect the weather, but as he forgets his bond with nature, nature actually turns on him. Treebeard is that much more incensed by Saruman’s destruction because he is a wizard and should know better how to treat the nature around him. Radagast is the most perfect of Istari in regard to demonstrating closeness to and power in channeling nature for his benefit (though he is less perfect in demonstrating leadership over mankind and academic types of wisdom-leading to his failure). The “spell” Gandalf uses to break the bridge and prevent the Balrog from annihilating the entire fellowship by the way, is one of his least wizardlike moments in the series, when magic is looked at in this way (although I’d have to agree with previous posters it shows him to be pretty powerful with twentieth century thoughts on magic too). The ancients would have seen that moment as his requesting aid from the gods. The bridge-breaking would have been the doing of a god, not the doing of a wizard. Of course, since it is, in fact, fiction, Gandalf does have a few powers an ancient shaman wouldn’t have had as listed by others here.

@ThePhilosophersGames

5 жыл бұрын

Well written and thanks for posting your perspective and analysis. I agree and talk about this - a bit - in my magic in LotR video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gZuMqtunppTIgZs.html Ofc some parts of it can be debated and I only scratch he surface - esp. on the connection of magic to "ancient tradition" and mythology. The essence is pretty close to what you say though. I really like some of the examples you mentioned (e.g. the wishing wells). I'll keep this in mind, thank you.

I've been listening to your stuff for weeks. I just wanted to take the time to say how appreciative I am of all the work you have done to put all this together. It is fantastic to listen to and just a phenomenal channel. So many thanks, please keep doing what you're doing.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, happy you enjoy my content in these difficult times :) No problem, I will continue ^^

This is awesome loving your pronunciation . Great video.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you,much appreciated ^^

Oh how I just stumbled on the channel of my dreams...

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

haha thank you, I hope you like it here ^^

@DrunkR0B0T

4 жыл бұрын

Me too!!!! Didnt know I needed deep middle earth lore in my playlist, but damnit I subscribed after 20 min in

@jeffhallam2004

4 жыл бұрын

Chandler D. Right?

@bobalover6293

4 жыл бұрын

my words exactly!!!

@jima6545

4 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah. Shilling hard for this channel!

Awesome video! Your channel deserves so many more subscribers.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, happy you liked it :) I'm actually surprised all the time, that my videos have become quite successful, so I can't complain ^^

I am 66 years old and have read the books of Tolkien since the70s, I have never read anything that indicated that Saruman had any idea that Cirdan had ever told Saruman that Gandalf had one of the elven rings.

@ThePhilosophersGames

5 жыл бұрын

Then I probably worded it poorly or made a mistake. Círdan did not tell Saruman, but Saruman found out about Narya himself. At least according to the Unfinished Tales, The Istari: 'For' said he, 'great labours and perils lie before you, and lest your task prove too great and wearisome, take this Ring for your aid and comfort. It was entrusted to me only to keep secret, and here upon the West-shores it is idle; but I deem that in days ere long to come it should be in nobler hands than mine, that may wield it for the kindling of all hearts to courage.' And the Grey Messenger took the Ring, and kept it ever secret; yet the White Messenger (who was skilled to uncover all secrets) after a time became aware of this gift, and begrudged it, and it was the beginning of the hidden ill-will that he bore to the Grey, which afterwards became manifest.

@5nokli

4 жыл бұрын

ThePhilosophersGames thank you so much for this! I have the Unfinished Tales and have not yet read it! This is huge incentive.

@jamiecullum5567

3 жыл бұрын

I think it would be obvious to a maia like saruman

Surprised there aren’t more likes. This is fabulous.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Love your lore telling and accuracy. You arent hasty with the telling of it nor making 5-10 quicky vids...this is almost a podcast and its good. Subbed 👌👍🤘 Looking forward to more...more...more

@ThePhilosophersGames

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, much appreciated :)

He is Gandalf, and that means him.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

:D

@KaliTP83

4 жыл бұрын

Nicely done.

I've always referred to gandalf as "god's Night Manager" of middle earth. He's got middling responsibility but often likes to get high in the stockroom.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

haha :D

@whitenoiserevived6575

4 жыл бұрын

That is a really good analogy lol.

I’m impressed by the work and effort you midst have put into this. Thank you so much it’s fantastic!

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated, thank you :) Happy you like my content ^^

Dude, Im just a guy who watched the movies like a couple of times and liked it. Saw this video and am like "WHAT IS THIS?" - Dope though. should start reading the books...

@caydespliff181

3 жыл бұрын

the books deserve more than one read through...not to deter you. just reccommending :)

The single thing I was most disappointed with in the movie adaptation was Gandalfs blind faith in Saruman... it makes him come off as somewhat naive. When the truth is by that point Gandalf had already perceived a change in Saruman and had begun to suspect that Saruman had warped the mission of the istari into something self-serving to further his own goals and power

I just yelled out loud, "WHAT! How does he only have 20k subs? This channel is amazing!!"

FINALLY!!!!! A LOTR video that lasts more than 12-17 mins. This is great!!!!!!

@ThePhilosophersGames

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) I have some more if you are interested ^^

@YourOldUncleNoongah

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThePhilosophersGames oh yeh. Your work shall keep me entertained and enlightened for a while. Thank you for these vids. Your work is much appreciated.

OMG, i was doing my Architecture project while listening to this...HAD TO STOP BECAUSE I HAD TO SUBSCRIBE IMMEDIATELY. W H E R E H A V E Y O U B E E N A L L M Y L I F E

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

haha well sometimes channels are hard to find on KZread ^^ Glad you found your way though and thank you too for subscribing! Also much success and good luck with your architecture project :)

Very accurate and well researched!

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I really tried to make it as accurate as possible and took a lot of time for the research. So much appreciated :)

Rather awesome, thanks for doing this! Soo much stuff I didn't know was possible to know and am thankful it's knowable and passed along in this form of knowledge! Thanks!

Only part way thru but ill be finishing it. Appreciate the amount of work you put into this video. Its well done.

Informed, in depth, and interesting... kudos to you sir and thank you

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, much appreciated :)

Man, if some being gave me the chance to have a role like Gandalf or Radagast- to be a wondering wise being or guardian, but at the cost of taking on the appearance of an old man, I'd do it

@farid1406

4 жыл бұрын

But perhaps you might get too enamored of those whom you have watch over to remain faithful to your trust i.e. Radagast

Great video my dude!!! Probably the hardest one to follow so far though, just because of all the different people and stories in it. Still it's top notch stuff.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) Yes I had some trouble structuring it and decided to make each section somewhat stand alone. Still it's a huge amount of information. Wanted it to be like 30 minutes when I started :D Should have made like 4 videos out of it ^^

I've been binging your videos for a few days now and it makes me want to be able to beam the books straight into my skull as I want all the knowledge and I want it NOW xD Oh well, off to watch 18 more of your videos, probably take a nap, and definitely dust off my LOTR audiobooks

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

haha yes I know what you mean ^^ have fun watching, sadly I can't make videos as fast as people watch them :D

I love hearing Tolkien's names in this accent

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

thank you ^^ I also try to pronounce them as described in Appendix E of The Lord of the Rings

HOLY CRAP !! Finally another long vid from you, damn you just made my day sir. Great job on the vid, i know its gonna be great before i even watch it.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) Happy to hear. It took me a long time, I hope you'll enjoy it ^^

Your videos are so amazingly detailed, entertaining and illuminating. Thank you so much for your great work!

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you ^^ I always try to go into the details and it takes often some time to uncover them and bring them into bigger context, so much appreciated.

Great to catch up on more LOTR. For some reason i don't get your videos on my reccomended list... Haven't seen your videos in a while, your channel GREW! Well done, happy new year and look forward to see more this year.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) That's strange. Sometimes YT does random things. Maybe there is a setting when you kick on the bell icon next to the follow button of my channel. Yes I can't complain ^^ Worked out quite will for me. Sadly my video output was quite low. The Istari video took forever. But I plan to release a new video soon and it's also LotR related ^^ Thanks again. I wish you a great year 2018 too!

These are great. I love your attention to detail. You should connect with The Tolkien Professor (Corey Olsen). I think you two would hit it off :)

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) Haven't talked to him yet, but I'm in contact with Geekzone and Men of the West and some others. maybe there will be a collaboration one day ^^

Incredible information. Thank you so much.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you too, happy you liked it :)

Absolutely in love with your channel, keep up the good work and keep enticing us with this amazing content! :D

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'll try ^^ happy you enjoy my videos. More will (slowly) come :D

The work you put into your videos is incredible. Thank You.

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you ^^ These long videos are really difficult to make, so much appreciated. The one I'm currently working on will also be quite long too. I hope people will like it.

Great example of Gandalf teaching "pity" as taught to him by Nienna Frodo: 'It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill Gollum when he had the chance.' Gandalf: 'Pity? It's a pity that stayed Bilbo's hand. Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends. My heart tells me that Gollum has some part to play in it, for good or evil, before this is over. The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many. And it turned out that it wasn't just the pity of Bilbo that kept Sauron from getting the Ring. It was the pity of Frodo and Sam as well, and on more than once occasion they wanted him dead but didn't kill him.

The Hobbit was THE book that made me love reading. The Lord of the Rings confused my mind with all of the different words i could not pronounce much less understand. This video? I knew Tolkien was smart but ... damn... Could one man really envision all of this while fighting for his life in a world war one trench? simple answer? Yes. Yes he could. One man CAN change the world. One man CAN create something that lasts. Something beyond what most of can imagine.

@jamiecullum5567

3 жыл бұрын

He didnt write it all or any of it really during ww1. I think the fall of gondolin is one of his earliest works from that time. He may have had ideas that later grew into the hobbit and lotr but if you know anything about middle earth you will know tolkien made many changes over the years. Lotr wasnt even the main story he wanted to tell, it grew from the hobbit. So i doubt gandalf or anything from the third age comes from the time. Of ww1

I always appreciate your videos. Once again another great insight to Tolkeins creation. Definitely a channel I can refer to my community. 🖒

@ThePhilosophersGames

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

There is a beautiful alliteration between Gandalf Making smoke rings disappear and Sauroman focusing on how to to find The Ring. It’s just subtle enough where it could be completely believable.

I don’t think Bilbo ever told Gandalf that he “stole” the Ring from Gollum. Rather, he seemed to take pains to justify his possession of it, feeling perhaps convicted by the claims of Gollum that he was a thief. Also, with regard to the theory that Gandalf thought Bilbo might have found Thror’s ring-when was the first time Gandalf actually saw the One Ring? Gandalf later told Frodo that each dwarf ring had its own gem. Did he discover that in his research of the Rings of Power AFTER Bilbo showed it to him on the night of the party? Was that the first time Gandalf had seen it? If so, then the sequence of events might indicate that Gandalf knew after his research that what Bilbo and Frodo had must be the One Ring, only excepting the final test of fire when he revealed the writing on the Ring.

@jamiecullum5567

3 жыл бұрын

He definitely told the dwarfs that, so i think gandalf would have either been there at the time or heard of it from them

@thestraightroad305

3 жыл бұрын

Jamie Cullum You’re saying Bilbo told the dwarves he had stolen the Ring from Gollum? Maybe I’m misunderstanding you. There isn’t anywhere in the Hobbit where he tells the dwarves he stole the Ring.

"Gandolf was only 5th level!" Early readers of Dragon Magazine might recognize that one.

Thank you, for the time and work you put in this channel. The lore comes to life through your dedication.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

No problem. Thank you for watching my content and for commenting :)

subbed! Incredible job man! I can tell this took a lot of hard work. You sir , kick ass! subbed

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) Oh yes it was a lot of work. Videos like these take a month or two to make. Happy you liked it ^^ (sorry for the late answer, but I'm really far behind when it comes to answering comments)

Gandalf for MVP of toklien-verse

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

agreed ^^

Who is Gandalf? Answer: It depends on what year Tolkien is writing.

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

haha ^^

seems to be the best Explanation so far. Thx. for the upload

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

No problem, happy you found the video informative ^^ Also thank you too for commenting :)

Excellent work. I appreciate the time and effort this must have taken. I am new to your channel and will be looking at other videos.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes, those long videos take for ever to make ^^ I think, I worked on this one over the course of like 5-6 weeks. Happy you liked it :)

Excellent video. I know Tolkien's work quite well but have not read all of the supplemental volumes. You know the material well and share several things I did not know.

@ThePhilosophersGames

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you and happy to hear :) A lot of research goes into my videos. Regarding your hint from the other comment: I agree, Círdan is also one of my favourite characters. I also made a 95 minute long video about him and the history of the elves, if you are interested. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJuX0LisfaTUfdI.html

Excellent synopsis of the whole! 🍺😋👍

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Just for some clarification on magic in the world of Tolkien for those that are curious: It's a system based on the natural laws of creation in that world and the vows made by the elements and Illuvitar. Most of the most powerful beings command the elements / these laws to abide their will by speaking to it or by making an oath. According to the commanders understanding and station the elements would honor them. This power is a portion of the Secret Fire (God's power) which is in all things. The Istari had nearly free command of more of it, and some of the Eldar by birth into older ages of the world could do the same. "Magic/Sorcery" as we see in most fantasy worlds is a binding of the elements, trying to enchant/convince/force them to do ones will. So the result is not as full nor potent as an honored command of the same. Considering Tolkien's "magic" is directly connected to the Secret Fire and Illuvitar makes this power a power which creates Ea, or all that is. Magic as we have come to understand it is a system which imitate that order and fall short. One could also presume that dark magic / sorcery is brought about by the Shadow of Melkor having influenced the very fabric of Arda. (Possibly all of Ea) (I posted this on another you tubers video a while ago, but I felt it fit well here too.) Great video by the way. Keep up the amazing work!

Great videos, many thanks for this

Wow, thank you. I listened to the whole video.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

No problem, happy you liked it ^^ Thank you too for commenting!

This was excellent!!!!!!

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Well done for such a good video !!!

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

thank you, much appreciated :)

Very thorough! Thank you

Gandalf was not above Radagast when the Istari first came to Middle Earth, but he was least of those who came. Tolkien even writes, as Cirdan tells him, "He whom was least shall become greatest of the Order" which is one of the reasons Cirdan bestowed Narya upon him, realizing that while he may have been least he was wisest and his path will require specific aid...

@ThePhilosophersGames

2 жыл бұрын

Radagast was not planned to go to Middle-earth as Istari. Yavanna asked Saruman (the leader) to take Radagast with them and because it's Yavanna Saruman agreed, but was not happy about it. Gandalf was chosen in contrast and Varda said something about him not being the third, quote from Unfinished Tales, The Istari: Then Manwë said that that was all the more reason why he should go, and that he commanded Olórin (illegible words follow that seem to contain the word 'third'). But at that Varda looked up and said: 'Not as the third'; and Curumo remembered it. The note ends with the statement that Curumo [Saruman] took Aiwendil [Radagast] because Yavanna begged him, and that Alatar took Pallando as a friend. Also we find this statement in Unfinished Tales, The Istari: "Saruman is said (e.g. by Gandalf himself) to have been the chief of the Istari - that is, higher in Valinorean stature than the others. Gandalf was evidently the next in order. Radagast is presented as a person of much less power and wisdom. Of the other two nothing is said in published work save the reference to the Five Wizards in the altercation between Gandalf and Saruman [The Two Towers III 10]."

Gandalf smoked weed from the shire... stoner Gandalf confirmed

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

there are so many memes around that :D

@jibblesq

3 жыл бұрын

But... It wasn't weed.

@jameskent577

3 жыл бұрын

Jibbles it was pipe weed from the shire

@fr9874

3 жыл бұрын

@@jameskent577 I believe this is what Gimli smokes in his pipe also, or something similar, him and Gandalf were chonged throughout the vast majority of their travels in Middle Earth

@fandangosan

2 жыл бұрын

@@jibblesq they literally called it weed lol

Such great work. It’s very appreciated. Thank you.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you too :) Glad you enjoyed it!

Unbelievable! I have never seen or heard a more thorough video! You must have read all the books a dozen times or more.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, happy you like it :) These very long videos on my channel are always very research heavy (I think it took me like 5-6 weeks to make). Still there are probably some small mistakes here and there, that always slip through (the description has a mistakes section).

@jeffhallam2004

4 жыл бұрын

ThePhilosophersGames wow that’s incredible.

Awesome video The map is great, I remember as a kid that it was tedious reading the map and keeping track of the locations. Beautiful job. Thank you 👍 34:05 I always wondered how did Thrain manage to hide the key and map as a prisonner 🤔 Pulp Fiction anyone? 😅 46:24 Mithrandir FTW 💪

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, happy you like the maps :) Yes I think the map helps a lot to understand even deeper what is going on there. I use it a lot (even though in a few cases my routes/movements of armies are not 100% correct and I just use the arrows as abstraction to get my point across; however I usually try to be accurate though). Using maps in my videos was also born out of the necessity to have something to show and me not getting permissions from artists to show their art work in my videos. So I went with showing maps ^^ haha yes that would be a possibility to hide the map :D

Please do a video on Tom Bombadil, I feel like that would be really interesting!

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Good news, I already have ^^ kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4iXs7CMaMTXfaw.html

Thank you for being such a huge nerd and offering such great information!!!

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

haha no problem, happy you liked it :)

To this day, I tease my Ma cause she called Gandalf Gandor one time. So now it's Gandor everytime we're talking about Lord of the Rings.

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

haha ^^

the great eagle was the king and it owed its life to gandalf and rescued to return the favour

@ThePhilosophersGames

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, Gandalf once healed the Lord of the Eagles from an arrow wound according to the Hobbit. It's not clear who is meant. Thorondor (Lord of Eagles)? Gwaihir (Windlord)? Maybe Landroval (Gwaihir's brother)? Ofc Gandalf had brief contact with the eagles. Not sure how close their friendship was. quote from the Hobbit: "The wizard and the eagle-lord appeared to know one another slightly, and even to be on friendly terms." But that Gandalf was rescued by Gwaihir from Orthanc was an "accident", because Radagast send the Eagle. Quote from Lord of the Rings (Council of Elrond): For Radagast knew no reason why he should not do as I asked; and he rode away towards Mirkwood where he had many friends of old. And the Eagles of the Mountains went far and wide, and they saw many things: the gathering of wolves and the mustering of Orcs; and the Nine Riders going hither and thither in the lands; and they heard news of the escape of Gollum. And they sent a messenger to bring these tidings to me. ‘So it was that when summer waned, there came a night of moon, and Gwaihir the Windlord, swiftest of the Great Eagles, came unlooked-for to Orthanc; and he found me standing on the pinnacle.

I love hearing about the blue wizards only herd about them in the hobbit

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

Yes they are an interesting topic, but sadly we know so little about them. Interestingly they are not mentioned in the Hobbit book, but in the film and the only information we have is from books the film makers had no license for (Unfinished Tales and Peoples of Middle-earth). From The Lord of the Rings we only know that there 5 Wizards, and 3 of 5 are mentioned, but that the 2 missing Wizards are the Blue Wizards is not mentioned. I think he planned to publish his Istari essay including the Blue Wizards somewhere, but never did, it was then published after Tolkien's death by his son Christopher Tolkien - like many other notes and work in progress texts of J. R. R. Tolkien.

I ended up watching all your Tolkien's lore videos lol! Nice narration

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

happy you liked it that much ^^ There will be more. Sadly watching is faster, than making the videos, so I can't keep up :P

Very enjoyable video, some pronunciation made me chuckle, but its very interesting to hear the linguistic similarities between our languages when you speak

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) Yes the pronunciation of names is always a topic ^^ And English is also not my native language, so I mess up there too :D

@shanedonnelly9794

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePhilosophersGames Don't worry about it, your English is better than a lot of native speakers in England, believe me I know!

absolutely no problem as far as im concerned. you have a very singular and thorough way of doing each video. why diddnt you teach my college classes?

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) haha don't know, maybe I should have become a teacher ^^ I think if I'm good at one thing, then it's explaining things, which is good for making informative KZread videos too :D

i just noticed that this showed me giving it a thumbs down, when that wasnt the case. i hope this didnt happen any of the other videos-i have to go make sure. so bizarre.

Excellent video. Lots of good information.

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

Omg i can't believe i missed Out in these Videos, you really made a very dire day an Order of megnitude Mode enjoyable

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear and I hope your days get better :) There are a lot of cool niche (and often small) KZread channels to discover ^^

Gandalf is a expert of fireworks.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

haha yes ^^

@darthsidious4894

4 жыл бұрын

Saruman too :D

Love all your R's

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

@zachstevens7382

6 жыл бұрын

Yes very well spoken good sir.

@gregorymacdonnell7914

6 жыл бұрын

The man sounds Italian. His accent and trilled R`s are very Italian.Great vids!

@ThePhilosophersGames

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! That's a compliment :) But I'm actually from Germany :D I like Italy though ^^

@gregorymacdonnell7914

6 жыл бұрын

Wow!! Well you sound good in either case ! Tolkien has been a passion for me sinse I read the hobbit at about 9 . (now I am 48) The Sillmarillion was like a Bible to me,an in a sense the creation of Eru still inspires me far more than the Bible,and as a musician,it also makes more sense..odd you may think that. I have never met anyone with as much Knowlege of Tolkien than myself,until Your`s and another gentleman`s vid`s . Like for instance the correct pronunciation of "Meadros" Feanors eldest son...MYethROS..With the "th" as in "these clothes" and a hard R..as in "rock" Three syllables.,and all the various other Beasts, Ghosty goulies ,lol . Mainly I adhered to the appendices to pronounce every word as Tolkien put it forth for us to get right.After all his works were inspired by his love of language! Take care man,and good work on your video`s, they are terrific.

Just discovered your channel, your videos are a millions times better than the main three channels that keep coming up when I search youtube. Really in-depth, and great natural presentation...not overly stylised. Also love the German accent, as well as your pronunciation of Tolkien's words. Nice change from some incredibly irritating yank accents.

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Happy you found your way (welcome) and gave my content a chance ^^ Yes, the different channels on YT focus on different things I would say. So there is something for all tastes available. E.g. I focus a lot more on details and usually make longer information heavy videos, but as a result my upload schedule is very infrequent and sometimes uploads take some weeks. Working on my current project for several months now 😅

Wow what a great channel and a great video, thank you very much!

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Happy you found your way to my channel and thank you too :)

Saruman read too many "good guy Sauron" memes.

knew this stuff in high school . couldn't put those books down .

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Yes i really like the books, but when I don't read them for some time ,I start forgetting things again, because there is just so much.

@cweefy

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePhilosophersGames oh my god , so much detail . The Silmarillion was crazy ! i actually got in trouble in high school one day because I was reading it in class during a movie . my teacher walked up to me and tried to take the book out of my hands and we ended up struggling over it . HAHAHA !

One of your greatest videos of all time

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, much appreciated :) Yes it was a bit of an experiment if I can cover all Istari in one video without too much overlap. I think it worked out in the end quite well (ofc there is some overlap).

Finally someone who can pronounce the names properly!

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

thank you ^^ Well at least I try. my stress is often off in my older videos. Fixed that a bit in the newer once.

A friend of mine told me his brother was a big Tolkien fan, he did a paper in college and theorized that Tom Bombadil(spelling?) Was one of the blue wizards. I didnt get to see the paper but it sounded like it would be an interesting read.

@ThePhilosophersGames

5 жыл бұрын

That really sounds quite interesting. I think, if you not consider the History of Middle-earth books (where Christopher Tolkien released and discussed the idea and notes of his father) and just focus on The Lord of the Rings and maybe the Unfinished Tales, this could be a potential conclusion. The mysterious Tom Bombadil is always a complex topic.

@currencylad7125

5 жыл бұрын

I have seen other lore videos claiming Tom Bombadill was one of the Maiar and long resident in Middle Earth. Also, the blue wizards are (when referred to at all) always stated to be active in the far east which contrasts with Tom Bombadill's residence close to the Shire in the west.

@adamplentl5588

4 жыл бұрын

By theorized you mean made up. There is no indication whatsoever in any of Tolkien's writing that this is the case.

I don't mean to offend you in any way, I just prefer how pronunciation is done in the movies and other media. I understand why you do it the way you do I just think it doesn't flow properly when telling the story but again that's my opinion and as I'm told often my opinion on many things are a bit off. As I said I love your content and I know you put a lot of effort and time into your videos.

@Enkaptaton

3 жыл бұрын

It is mostly because he is speaking al the names cursively. Gandalf the ...Mayar was called ...Olorin in ...Valinor.

Your knowledge of, and ability to share, this info is amazing. I bet Stephen Colbert would be blown away, I know I am. Just subscribed.

@ThePhilosophersGames

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you :) Happy you liked to so much. Yes I think if there is one thing I'm good at, then it's structuring complex topics and explaining them (at least when I have a lot of knowledge about it) ^^

Glad I found this page, you are awesome 👌

@ThePhilosophersGames

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome, happy you enjoy my content. Thank you :)