Before even watching the video I'm going to say he's gunna go with the 2012 non-retina

@joeyvpoisonfree

6 жыл бұрын

me too lmao

@lamurcribb985

6 жыл бұрын

Me three

@jonvincentmusic

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, 2012 is THE one.

@marike8363

5 жыл бұрын

Pendleton 115 I’m getting one for my birthday in about 3 weeks. Is it really that good? I’m excited regardless though haha.

@jasonredhorn87

5 жыл бұрын

@@marike8363 very easy to upgrade ram and hard drive. 2012 did it the best

Steve Jobs era apple will always be the best apple.

@JZM006

4 жыл бұрын

Phil Mortimer ya

@XPBytez

3 жыл бұрын

True true

@vihaansingha8340

3 жыл бұрын

Try af

@vihaansingha8340

3 жыл бұрын

True

@Dyl_Apple

3 жыл бұрын

Rest In Peace Steve Jobs, you are missed

I just bought one of these off a guy on Craigslist the other day. Highest spec (2.7ghz) w/anti glare hi res screen. $350. I popped in a 860 Evo SSD that I had, and upgraded the RAM to 16gb (that I pulled from my Mac Mini before I sold it). Took out the dvd drive and put in a caddy to hold the original 1tb HDD. I’ll tell you what... this machine is a keeper. I immediately sold my late 2013 Retina 13”. Don’t need it anymore. Made back the money I spent on this, AND pocketed another $200. Just ran Geekbench on this 2012, scored 13,500 multi core. That’s almost up there with mid 2015 15” retina. It even outputs 4K via Mini DisplayPort. The only downside is the screen. It’s not terrible, but the retina screens are so much better. For this powerful (and cheap) of a machine, it’s totally serviceable. Good call, Luke!

Exactly what I wanted to see. I got the mid 2009 Macbook Pro for around $2500 at the time, 2.66GHz. I downloaded contract breaking amounts of data, ran virtual machines and even ported high end games during it's lifetime. I have to cool it with a pad because the fans barely work and I broke the speakers by tweaking them, but it's still going strong. It still only has 4Gb of RAM bro! I even do light video editing... I just use a lot of external drives. I'm in the middle of refurbishing it and I feel like I'm getting a better deal than the 2019 model. If I can get a good 2012 model for decent trade I'll look into it. Thanks.

the retina model from 2012. last maxbook pro steve jobs had full influence on before rip.

@TimurTripp2

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, it seems he overlooked the Mid 2012 Retina. The price has come down on it in recent years, and in my opinion the Retina display is still a big deal. Though I doubt Steve knew it as any more than an attempt to bring the Retina display to the Mac.

@MrNubshow

6 жыл бұрын

The 2012 rMBP had graphics card issues though

@not_ever

5 жыл бұрын

15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina models manufactured from Mid 2012 to Early 2013: An affected MacBook Pro may display one or more of the following symptoms: Distorted or scrambled video on the computer screen No video on the computer screen (or external display) even though the computer is on Computer restarts unexpectedly Non retina is better. Sent from my mid-2012 15" Macbook Pro

@johnbrennan592

5 жыл бұрын

Jah bless

@scooby-tm8yk

5 жыл бұрын

What?! The 2012 retina model marks the beginning of terrible laptops. The last good laptop was the mid-2012 NON-retina.

Mid 2012 MBP 15' are the best builds - all the ports

2015 macbook pros are best in my opinion

@nunyad7293

5 жыл бұрын

LanternTech agreed. I left my non retina 2012 13” for my 2015 15”. The only drawback is the OWC SSD. But oh well.

@hackerscience2986

5 жыл бұрын

But 13 or 15 inch

@UltraKryptonian

5 жыл бұрын

15” 2015 MBP is the winner!!

@simmytm

5 жыл бұрын

Hacker Science I love the 13 inch

@ialimijororakotoniaina3274

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed

Hey, Luke! My name is Andrew. This video popped up on my recommended videos and I just wanted to say I appreciate the work and effort you put into your videos and your channel. Thank you for making great quarantine content 😂

Came to the same conclusion earlier this year when looking for a Logic-capable MBP for my son to use at music college. It's a no-brainer if you're on a budget. I picked up a Mid-2012 Unibody 15 inch 2.3 Ghz i7 for 450 GB Pounds, added 16GB RAM and a 500mb SSD. Runs Logic flawlessly.

@Moledmc

2 жыл бұрын

Gonna get one of these, is it still working?

@SalemTechsperts

2 жыл бұрын

Until the GPU inevitably fries itself 😔

@SalemTechsperts

2 жыл бұрын

@@Moledmc Be careful looking for them. Every single 15" model of this era suffered from a GPU issue. The one's you see for sale on eBay have either been "reflowed" and will die in a few hours or weeks, or the GPU has been disabled, crippling what the machine can actually do.

@Moledmc

2 жыл бұрын

@@SalemTechsperts thanks for this. I'll look into it, though it'll have to come second hand with warranty regardless.

2013-2015 13" rMBP are the best Macbooks ever. Futureproof and fast as lightning, Still have all their ports, are thin and light.

@Tigerex966

5 жыл бұрын

But can only upgrade 1 ssd and can not upgrade the 8gb models to 16gb and have no internal DVD or blue ray option Port selection is good though, and the retina have tb2 instead of tb1 and usb3, instead of usb2, and are about a half pound lighter unless you remove your optical drive, and replace it with a second ssd. on non retina models. So i think the non retina models are the best.

@bayukurniawan8597

4 жыл бұрын

Agree

@litjellyfish

4 жыл бұрын

Tigerex966 who need DVD for professional work today? Only good part with non retina was really to be able to have two SSD and yes that it’s easy / possible to upgrade. But if you get. rMB 2012-2015 with 16gb and large SSD and use the flash card as a 256gb time machine backup it’s a really good setup.

@jesusmalacon7560

4 жыл бұрын

yep, I got a 2014 13 macbook pro with 8gb ram and 512 ssd and honestly is the best one I've had. I just got the new 13 2019 pro with pretty much the same specs, for a good price, gonna give the 2014 to my sister so its all good.

@ImpactSpace

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tigerex966 Who needs a useless and space-taking DVD-drive? Or a bulky, heavy chassic? Also ports better distributed in the Retinas 2012-2015. So I say, get the 2015 MBP one, period. That is the last, great PRO machine.

The perfect Macbook Pro would be the 2012 unibody with modern hardware and retina display, maintaining the upgradability with 2 NVMe slots and using the leftover space for a bigger battery. Yes, it's heavier and ticker than the newest one, but there's the Air for people that want that extra portability. I would buy one today.

Than 2012 13 inch non retina is the most reliable and most upgradeable. Every part is easily replaceable and it’s the perfect size. Mine is going on 6 years old with the original battery. Swapped out the 500gb HDD for an SSD for about $60. Solid as ever and still running the latest OS

@kountzer

5 жыл бұрын

I got one.

@TJFORBES

5 жыл бұрын

Best Macbook without a graphics card YES! I have the 2.9 ghz with the 512 SSD and 16 gb ram and it's still amazing. I want a 2015 2.8, by the numbers that is the best bang for buck macbook at the moment.

@connorthompson7020

5 жыл бұрын

How is it now?

@lakshrawal3813

4 жыл бұрын

Is it good for photoshop work and other animation works ?? What's the time of rendering

@tuneunleashed

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought until I bought a 2015 Macbook Pro 15 inch....Never went back to that 2012 lol.

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012) I am still using this computer. This computer has severed me well over the years. I can watch movies on my pro without external attachments and this was a selling point for me back in 2012. It is getting old and things are starting to go bad, I need to find a place to refurbish for me.

The Retina display is a dealbreaker for me though, I need that beautiful display. Wish there was a way to retrofit the retina into older chassis

@plece

4 жыл бұрын

I know this is extremely late, but the matte display on the 15" models. They aren't quite as good as a retina. But they're far better than the normal display. They have similar Pixels per Inch to a 30" 1440p monitor

Pfffffft obviously it’s the i9 2019 MacBook Pro, it doubles as a oven

@instaminox

4 жыл бұрын

its shit I have it i9 2.4 and I am not happy it heats up like crazy and battery drains lile ever before

@VIsTheMusic

3 жыл бұрын

Haaaaaaa !!! Just like most PCs are Foreman Grills, their horrendous dated wedge design and bulky over engineering blunders lol

@vihaansingha8340

3 жыл бұрын

Well my opinion is the best MacBook Pro is the 2015

Skip to 3:00 for his recommendation. Mid 2012 15" unibody MacBook pro

Personally i got the macbook pro mid 2012 15" and the iMac 21.5 late 2013, both of the machines u had recommended deeply... as far I felt really conformable with my computers

I honestly love your videos!! You have gotten me into flipping MacBooks!!

@TheLegoBrickery

6 жыл бұрын

What does flipping MacBooks mean?

@TheLegoBrickery

6 жыл бұрын

Jeed Thank you!

@dryden2440

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheLegoBrickery buying & reselling.

@dryden2440

5 жыл бұрын

@Zang Good question. I don't flip em myself, just familiar with the slang :)

Hey Luke, thanks for making this video. I have an early 2011 unibody 17 inch MBP and a mid 2012 unibody 15 inch MBP, both anti-glare with 16gb of ram and a 512gb ssd. I agree, the mid 2012 unibody 15 inch MBPs are the best ever made. The new MBPs are so expensive, I might consider buying a high spec 2017 21.5-inch iMac. Oh btw, I've subscribed to your channel, keep up the good work!

17” 2011 2.2 GHz with all port, never had problems with my graphic card.

@arricammarques1955

4 жыл бұрын

AKA The Beast : )

I'm just saying right now that the best macbook is most definitely the Macintosh Plus

@hanakomisa

6 жыл бұрын

Or the SE30 hahaha

@sid-mw7nz

6 жыл бұрын

only thing is, the Macintosh Plus was NOT A FRICKIN MACBOOK! It was my favorite retro mac, so I definitely agree anyway.

@SomeNot

6 жыл бұрын

But the Macintosh portable is the best laptop ever made.

@Alecexo

5 жыл бұрын

sid r/whooosh

@Alecexo

5 жыл бұрын

Juan Felipe Parra Aguilera r/whoosh

I have a 2015 2.8 Retina that's my main machine. Purchased a 2012 15" with the matte screen and a 2012 13" for extremely cheap because they were not functioning. Planned on fixing/selling them for big profit, but now that they work they are such GREAT machines I hate to part with them. Both are close to perfect cosmetic shape as well.

Rocking a Mid 2012 15 inch with 256GB SSD and 16GB RAM. It’s damn good. I really hesitate to upgrade. The only issue is its weight. Weighs a brick!

Ended up buying a 15" 2012 MacBook Pro for myself after binging your videos! You make really good stuff :)

Apple sadly died along with Steve jobs. I so wanted to buy a new macbook pro. But due to the lack of ports and other bad things I hear, makes me not want to purchase a MacBook pro.

@not_ever

5 жыл бұрын

This is my problem. I can't upgrade to a newer model because Apple downgraded the upgrade. It's no longer a professional machine so pro must be short for some other word. Maybe profitability.

@jesusharos

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah idk wtf they where thinking with those four ports they took away the head phone jack because they want to get rid of wires so they contradict themselves when they release somthing New

@ImpactSpace

4 жыл бұрын

Get a refurbished 2015 MBP like I did. I love this PRO machine.

@instaminox

4 жыл бұрын

I agree

The best without doubt is the mid 2012 non retina, fully upgradeable. Still today is a good choice.

mid-2012 (core i7, 2.9 GHz) is hands down the best MacBook Pro ever made. I upgraded everything in less than two days and it runs faster than my friend's 2017 one.

@RealDarkFilm

5 жыл бұрын

even if you raid the ssds and put 16 gb ram its not gonna be faster than a 2017

I've been using my Mid 2012 since well 2012... I refuse to buy a machine that I cannot upgrade

@Rawwr1ful

4 жыл бұрын

@Kidd KARNELIAN unfortunately I don't think there are any upgrade options for the 13" screens. Great deal tho (coming from what I'm used to seeing on the UK market).

I‘m still rocking the Mid 2012 15“ Retina Macbook Pro and it‘s still running like a champ. I‘m still doing some heavy work on that thing every single day. It‘s a real workhorse and the best Macbook ever made!

@mickaels-g1479

4 жыл бұрын

A mid 2012 15" Retina model doesn't exist, does it? Did you get all details right?

@mickaels-g1479

4 жыл бұрын

I just saw, it seems to exist... I had been told no. Thanks for the comment :), time to do some more research...

I just bought a mid 2012 15 inch non retina Macbook Pro off Facebook for $300. I installed two Samsung EVO 860 500gb SSD's in RAID configuration and 16gb RAM and it is AMAZING!!

@SnickterP

5 жыл бұрын

I have two SSD's in mine but one boots Windows so I cannot software RAID. I'm so tempted to do a dual RAID 0 though! The read write speeds are near the newer machines i hear!

@connorthompson7020

5 жыл бұрын

How does it run now?

Actually the 15" MacBook Pro from 2015 with the 2.8GHz i7 CPU (i7-4980HQ) is the most powerful MacBook EVER. It's even more powerful than the newest 2017 3.1 i7 (i7-7920HQ) MacBook Pro. It's kinda unbelievable that a 2 year old MacBook is still the most powerful one. It also has all the ports and a way better cooling system than the newest ones, so it throttles less. If you don't believe me - just check the numbers. Google the CPU number with passmark after that and you will see that the 2015 MacBook is more powerful.

@AhmedWaheed95

6 жыл бұрын

dude, cooling on the 2015 15" just sucks and it's much louder with lower battery life

@lukemiani

6 жыл бұрын

Alexander Karaatanasov I have to disagree that it’s the most powerful MacBook ever. The graphics card alone rules it out on that basis as it’s nowhere near the radeon pro 460/560. Also the fans run very loud. Trust me, I’ve owned both a 2016 touch bar 15” and the 2015 you mentioned, the newer ones are simply more powerful and quieter

@Ayeris23

6 жыл бұрын

Great points, but due to the newer model's size, cooling is a joke. The performance isn't even getting up to what it should be because it can often throttle down to the performance of the older generation models, making matters much worse. Quiet doesn't equal performance. I would take a louder more powerful MacBook Pro with a larger, longer lasting battery any day over the tin can known as the 2016 and 17 MacBook Pro.

@lukemiani

6 жыл бұрын

Gonna have to disagree with that as well I'm afraid. I have found the cooling on the 2016-17 models to be quite excellent really. For example, I have been running Cryptocurrency mining programs on the CPU and GPU for 4 days straight and the computer has not overheated at all, it is running very stable and not throttling in the slightest. Granted if you block vents, or dust builds up the computer can get hot, but on the whole I have had no problems with throttling whatsoever. I reckon the cooling improvements are due to the much larger side vents, the thinner hinge which allows more air to pass, and the very large diameter fans

@Ayeris23

6 жыл бұрын

You must have it in a cool area, or it's simply not working it as hard as possible. Keep in mind that mining relies solely on the GPU with the CPU barely doing anything. The point where the machines start to really show their cooling issues is when you are hammering the CPU and GPU, but mostly the CPU. Quinn of Snazzy Labs did a fantastic job elaborating and demonstrating this on his 7700K iMac and his loaded 2016 15" MacBook Pro. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aIiLxLqPZdvLiag.html

I have the Mid 2012 unibody....had it since 2012 and it's still awesome. I love that I can upgrade it as well. Great video although I'm a little biased....lol

@tuneunleashed

3 жыл бұрын

2015 MacBook beats it by a long shot

@chelle315

Жыл бұрын

Me too!!! I'm going to get the 2015 soon though.

the 15" mid 2012 model is what i have :) it is heavy but honestly i love my ports and the fact it's the last mbp that you can upgrade storage and memory

I wouldn't say its the greatest but my mid 2009 macbook pro is still running strong. 9 years and still upgradeable and relevant...I think that is impressive. I added RAM and an ssd drive. It runs great.

@drescorpio1114

5 жыл бұрын

But one of the greats. I have mid 2010 and it runs great too.

I need help finding the best MacBook I never thought this would be so hard

Well I like my 2017 13" non touchbar MacBook Pro. It's fast, does all I need it to and wasn't overly expensive. USB C is fast and so univerally adopted that I rarely need adaptors.

I agree. This one is my work machine, and I have no plans to replace it for the time being.

I own the 2012 unibody it is great! I upgraded the ram myself to 16 Gigs for like 65 bucks. The keyboard is satisfying to type on and the i7 quad core is still quite capable even in 2020!

I got a late 2011 MacBook Pro 15" with 8GB of ram for 90 Bucks. No hard drive included. I already have an ssd so its all good. This thing is in almost mint condition too!

@2gunzfilms425

5 жыл бұрын

nick parkin that was a steal

This guy reminds me of myself for some strange reason... almost like I'm looking at my future self. He looks like me and talks similar to me (just an older version)

YES!!! Mid-2012 Unibody here! I originally bought a late 2011 MBP new as my first real laptop (several years after a bad experience with a Dell PC laptop which was promptly returned), but had the GPU failure in late 2014. I was going to go on a long vacation/trip for over a month so I needed a laptop, so out of desperation I bought a Mid-2012 via a local Craigslist buy for $700. The seller said it had 8GB RAM installed, but when I opened it up later, it had two RAM chips installed, with one not seated properly! After re-seating it, I suddenly had 16GB RAM! SCORE! After returning from my long vacation, I had my original 2011 repaired for free via Apple recall and sold it for around $700 (making my money back). This Mid-2012 Unibody has been serving me faithfully for over 4 years! I recently upgraded the 500GB HD with a 1TB Samsung SSD and finally upgraded the OS from Mavericks to Mojave. I'm flyin' with this thing now! The Mid-2012 is also the last MBP with an optical drive and Firewire (which is somewhat important to me as I use my MBP to record and perform music, and my audio interface uses Firewire). Totally hate the fact that the new MBPs are so lacking...Glad to find out I'm using the best MBP ever!

My choice is as the same as yours👍2012 Non-Retina MacBook Pro 15 inch is the best Mac Apple has ever made!

I've been saying this about this model since 2012 and haven't bought a new apple device since

I agree the non retina 2011 to 2013 with a GPU and CPU thermal repast and cleaning are great and upgradeable can have 2 ssds or one and a DVD or blue ray player battery and memory are replaceable. And the quad cores are even fast today. With hacks you can add a egpu and the latest is they are solid goid looking and not to heavy. I wonder if their are ram chips that will allow 32gb now?

@jaredfrancom

4 жыл бұрын

This was very well written, just wish I was computer savvy enough to build a model like this. Any reputable places to buy?

Yep, I had the last non retina 15 inch Macbook Pro and it was great; after that one I got a 2013 Retina 15 inch MacBook Pro, I really love this one, the Quadcore i7 are more than capable nowadays. Unfortunately as you said, this one cannot be upgraded as the former. I must say that the retina display is just gorgeous, (the non retina´s one was great also) and even I don't use it at full resolution most of the time, I really like the 1680x1050 resolution. The only issue I don't like on the retina MBP is that it gets too hot under mid multimedia load (I´m not sure if is the GPU or CPU the one overheating), however it performs really nice. Both computers are great for everyday work, web development, software development, windows or linux virtualization, video editing, you name it. MBPs are really stable and reliable. I really like this machines. Nice video Luke!

The late 2011 17 inch i7 2.5Ghz, 16 Ram, 500 SSD, AMD 6770M. THIS is the MacBook Pro!

@Messiah38

6 жыл бұрын

Diego Oliveira yeap, Luke smoking crack 17” 2011 beat out 2012 and up models

@lopescorte104

6 жыл бұрын

No usb 3.0 though...

@furkanayas3339

5 жыл бұрын

that's look like windows laptop.

@ampereman6893

5 жыл бұрын

SO... that doesn't mean anything.

@petermorris699

5 жыл бұрын

I have that one. But now its damn slow. Can you point me to a place I can get it to run fast again?

I bought a refurbished (new battery + display) 2015 MBP with dPGU for 1200$. In December 2019, yes! Because it is the last reliable PRO macbook. Everything from 2016-2018 is just trash. Faulty keyboard and flex cable, poor battery Whr, pathetic I/O selection, no Magsafe, no SD-port, speaker and T2 problems, trackpad too big (palm rejection meh), touchbar mostly useless, the surface gets scratches much faster, overall too expensive, and they even killed the glowing apple logo... just pathetic. Majority of reviews and users agree.

Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro: Too old Me: still using a Late 2009 MacBook

@toyoscio

4 жыл бұрын

Depends on what you use it for. Many applications and/or websites won't run too well on Core 2 duo

My favorite is the Late-2011 13" MBP (I have this one).

RIP my 2011 15" i7 - Logic board & GPU went at the same time! Damn you Apple!

@vicsilva651

3 жыл бұрын

me to dude. its such bullshit

Some of these 15 inch mid-2012 (like the one I have) were customizable with a 1680x1050 resolution screen. I love the resolution on my macbook, virtually indistinguishable (for me) from 1080p and less taxing on the hardware than a retina display. Although on booting and windows while gaming I have to run most intensive games at 1280x800 resolution, but I still get 30-40 FPS on the highest detail settings, and 50-60 FPS on lowest settings.

I just got a unibody 2012 MBP and I've been loving it. Already have Logic installed, been working with final cut pro, and have Parallels desktop to go between windows 10 and high sierra. All while still being a fully capable machine!

nah ill stick to the late 2013 macbook pro 15 with the 750m card

Damn that cinematic shots at the end is better than any apple ad lmao 😂😍😍

I'm getting my new-old MBP 2015 15" tomorrow; 2.8GHz/16GB/256GB (I'll be putting a larger SSD in it). Production date was just this last year a few months before they stopped making them (so no dGPU) and I actually still have some of the original 1-year warranty, and only 13 recycles on the battery, boxed and everything that came with it for a really great price. This will be my new everyday machine with some compromising;-), not the most compact but enough so, not the best screen or speakers (compared to the newest models), but still really good, wish it had thunderbolt 3, but hay its got all those other ports... and a really great keyboard and proper size force-touch trackpad ;-) The APPLE glow on top, magsafe, that beautiful outer case finish and fit, this is one very cool computer. Coming from my all-time favorite, the late 2011 quad-core MBP 17", which unfortunately died... again... for the third time... and now is not supported... so... I still had my mid-2010 17" dual-core and so will still be using that as my back-up, and its nice for general use and media with the big anti-glare screen, not 'retina' but still pretty nice with it best-at-the-time 166 dpi. With options like we have with vintage MBPs, and all the problems of the resent incarnations, I guess we are lucky.

Make the same video but with imacs 😍

@ZimpyOG

6 жыл бұрын

or Big Macs

@chrisreynolds6391

5 жыл бұрын

Mac Miller died.

I'll take my 2012 MacBook Pro and even my 2011 over any of the new shit any day. Good video.

Loved the video mid 2012 mbp. I have some upgrading to do ram and new hard drive possibly a new battery as well.

Bought one in 2012, upgraded cpu, dedicated gpu and replaced both dvd drives for ssd's. Thought it became unrepaireable, bought another one, exactly same specs, finally fixed the first one, now I've got 2 and use them for everything, it's fast, reliable and I don't need another one.

I agree. Imagine this case with new chips and a mix of modern ports! Drool.

I totally agree with you! 2012mid Non Retina 15inch is the best!!!

Your videos are so good. Subbed. :)

I'm not a Mac user, but I really like computers like the mid-2012 unibody. I wish Apple still made Macs like that. The last upgradeable MacBook, and it sill had plenty of ports.

I have a late 2011 Macbook pro, runs like a hurricane, never been refurbished! Only problem Apple doesn't allow me to download the latest OS's!???? I have had many, since the desktops, this one has beaten them all for me. Would like a new one just for a treat, but this Mac is so good I think I will regret it! Professional Designer and Image manipulator!

You gotta keep in mind price at release date too. Im sure the MacBook you picked cost a pretty penny when they came out. im going with 2015 Macbook Pro

@alozzzy1213

4 жыл бұрын

Babidoo that’s what I have. Honestly you can get the 13 and 15 used for the same price or around. Def 16gb of ram. No question. And I would rec the 15 because of the quad core. I have the13 and it’s good but does slow down at times.

I recently purchased a newer laptop, but I still prefer using my Mid-2012 MacBook Pro. I simply switched out the hard drive for an SSD a couple of years ago and it runs flawlessly. It handles web browsing, Microsoft Office applications, and even Photoshop just fine. The best part? It has tons of ports. I agree that screen has a lot of glare, so hopefully I can fix that soon. Either way, six years and my laptop is still running strong!.. I wish that Apple would put these ports and the chiclet keyboard on their newer models.

You avoided the mid and late 2010 models (1st gen i5/i7), and also failed to mention any of the 17 inch models (especially the late 2010), why? I think those were wonderful, and no graphic problems too (still work great.)

Good video but eliminating MBP’s because without high end graphics cards ignores 90% of the user base. It’s way more about Word, Excel, and Powerpoint. Large screens are good for the office but unusable on planes- even in business and sometimes first class. Less weight in your computer bag is very desirable. I have a 2012 13” MBP. 1TB SSD, new battery and screen. For $700 in rebuild, I see no reason to drop $3K this year or next on the newest model.

Late 2009 17” MBP with GeForce 9400M, 9600M, and Core 2 Duo. My mid 2012 non-retina MBP is the top spec and has 4TB storage (2TB SSD), but the nvidia chip scares me. My mid-2012 i7 13” non retina is the most reliable. The 2009 15 and 17 inch have the tantalum capacitor failure. I only realised after buying a dead one. Has been solid ever since!

Watching this video throught my MacBook Pro Early 2011 in 2019!

The best MacBook Pro is the 15inch retina 2015 1TB model as it is the last to include all the important ports. No USB C in sight and nobody complained

@signsofthetimes886

4 жыл бұрын

Those still go for a pretty penny

hey, am watching this on 13" MBP mid 2010 running original OSX Snow leopard. the battery says "replace now" since two years ago but it still serves for 3.5-4 hours. dents everywhere (dropped it at least 3-4 times, once it went slide down the stairs). it lost all of its black button feet so I have to put it on something to make it a bit elevated. still, it works 10X better than the HP820 with i5 processor provided by my office ..

@saleemshahzad4215

4 жыл бұрын

Haha.way to go 👍

Still using my mid 2009 17” MBP. Is it slowing down? Yes. But I will upgrade to 8gb RAM, I think. She’s still going strong and I still love her!

couldnt be happier with late 2013. still daily drive. just replaced battery and one fan

My 2013 17 inch is still going strong, love the bigger screen.

@Hektormydog

5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately they never made a 2013 17 inch. 2011 was the last year the 17 inch was made. Sorry. I've had both the mid-2010 and late-2011 [last] 17 inch MBPs. My 2011 had 2 logic board replacements becasue of dGPU failures, and one more a month after the 'vintage' label was put on it and APPLE no longer supported it or would replace the defective GPU/logicboard. Went back to my semi-retired 2010 dual-core and its still going fine. Not the post powerful MBP, but fine for general use and nice for media with its larger anti-glare screen. Going for a new (2018) production MBP 15" 2015 now for a daily work machine.

@7860092

3 жыл бұрын

How about nowv

@Secret-ts8vn

3 жыл бұрын

15 inch*

Keyboard also matters because it is not a desktop, so you will have to live with the keyboard it comes with. For me the sound card really matters, but it's never bad in MacBooks, it's just... usually better in older MacBooks. The display... I do not mind 720P, I do care about viewing angles! The performance... who needs performance on a MacBook? MacBooks are meant to be simple, so it's mostly for basic tasks. What matters is an SSD and enough RAM for smooth multitasking. Then ports matter... and finally, UPGRADABILITY AND REPAIRABILITY. The late 2009 polycarbonate MacBook is my daily driver. I put 4GB of RAM, patched to Big Sur, and everything is supported, including the graphics except minor issues like iMovie not working. I only miss USB 3, but anyway it's for basic tasks. Sound card's really good, and the trackpad is possibly one of the best trackpads ever made. It was replaced recently, so it also feels like new.

Mid 2014 has a bug which shuts the machine off unless you buy $10 NoCrashMBP app and run it. It's works, but the fan always runs.

I have a MBP 2012 with upgraded two 500GB ssd and over stocked 16GB ram. I have the hard drives dedicated to Catilina and Linux Mint 18.3. The Intel graphics are not the best for some games, but I can do what I need to do with the computer. 2012 was the last year for DVD drive so one can insert a second ssd only in 2012 and below but 2012 has internet recovery and is go to go all the way up to Catilina so far. rEFInd bootloader installed in Mac makes a kick ass laptop dualboot. You need to hide some of the Icon-bootloaders in rEFInd to only have a Mac and linux icon to boot and I can not get bootcamp to install with a working rEFInd bootloader. That means I left Windows behind and I am able to get around so far without it.

I watch the video on an 13 inch non retina Mac book pro from 2010 and it works fine :) and I can play Minecraft on the lowest settings with 120 fps

If you don t need high specs, i recommend the late 2009 macbook unibody.It runs High Sierra natively and it is hard to buy a broken one on eBay, because broken ones hardly exist.

Just purchased this same model.. and it works flawless in 2018. I made a right decision😊😎

Book pro is best ever 15 inch machine thanks for this information i am new user. zafar cheema from Slazburg AUSTRIA.

The 2016 and 2017 MacBook Pros are the best ever! They are well worth the money. I've been enjoying my 15" since 11/2016 and have had no issues with the keyboard or anything. I'll upgrade when 6-core i7s and 32GB LPDDR4 RAM is available. Hopefully they'll go with nVidia for the discrete GPUs by then. The best MBPs have always been the 15" models. Now that the 15" models weigh just 4 lbs. there is really no reason to buy a 13" unless you're financial situation doesn't allow it.

For me is the 2015

2010 macbook pro 15inch i7 with matte display

Mid 2015 still going strong. I won't upgrade until I absolutely have to. I'm not pleased with the new keyboard feel, touch bar, etc. I'm hoping 2019 brings us an upgrade-worthy model.

Real talk you’re videos are really helping me out and pick the right MacBook thanks duder! So should go with the 2012 15 then?

I really love the design of the Touch Bar (2016) models but I'd say the Retina one (2012), I have a feeling with it

1:15 that glare tho

Use to use a MacBook 13 2012 the fat one, but now I​ use the Macbook 12

the macbook pro you chose is really thick... i choose the 13 inch touch bar 2016/ 2017 macbook pro yes expensive but it its really thin and only 3 lbs with 4 usb c ports its future proof and small bezels beautiful display and i think the shiny apple logo looks better than the lit up apple logo.. the music you had for the video montage was the introduction music for the apple watch

If you were limited to choose the best 13” MacBook Pro that meet all those criteria’s, which model would you suggest?

@alozzzy1213

4 жыл бұрын

adamcdx 2015.

What about the 15 inch Mid 2014/2015? I’d say that’s the best MacBook Pro, you get a Retina display, decent graphics, at £649/$699 off eBay and you’ve still got a good port selection

Suggestion:you should master your audio. Some compression and basic limiting should do the trick. Your volume is relatively low compared to others. Anyway like your videos

In some ways this older Mac was actually quite a bit ahead of models newer than it. I mean even the bezels are thinner than the subsequent models.

I think the Macbook Pro version 2015 are the best

Most ppl seem to know what would be your pick. The 15" non-retina 2012 wow. I didn't expect that.

MacBook Pro 2015 Retina was the last of the old guard.

Does anyone have a list of which MacBook pros have a graphics card failure? I want to know cause I’m thinking about buying an older Mac and don’t want to have a graphics defect.

@lukemiani

6 жыл бұрын

2008 Pre-unibody macbook pro 15+17", 2011 (early and late) 15 and 17", 2012 and early 2013 retina 15". Also some mid 2010 15", but this is more rare

mid 2010 there u go

@aeneasism

5 жыл бұрын

chris s I’ve been using it everyday heavily till now