A KZreadr actually recommending someone to not buy something seems rare

@williamwalcott8808

2 жыл бұрын

It would never be the current version of anything.

@davidcroteau5078

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but he kind of forgot to talk about non-Apple Computer like if there was only MacBook or because he likes them even after all these mistake Apple made.

@daniel.asserhed

2 жыл бұрын

@David Croteau he only talks about macbooks because the video title IS macbooks

@cheeseisgud7311

2 жыл бұрын

Have you watched lock picking lawyer

@tres-2b299

2 жыл бұрын

Its not, tech channels do that everytime. Especially ones dedicated to apple. Basically a product is coming in the future to kill the current one, so theh don't recommend the current one.

I like Luke, he stays original in a sea of tech videos/channels

Ah, the a1534. Worst repair that I’ve ever had to deal with.

When he said family i swore that dom torreto would appear

@n.f.m-noobfilmmaker-4512

2 жыл бұрын

Nahhh , he was with his family

@boudzbazz2027

2 жыл бұрын

@@n.f.m-noobfilmmaker-4512 Luke is family. Always.

*Awkwardly watching on my 2016 15" touhbar* It has given me some keyboard issues but none that have made me want to get something different. M1X/M2 16" might change my mind on that soon though.

@zen608

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, your macbook has a touhbar? I can't find mine...

@jojoxl

2 жыл бұрын

@@zen608 ok

@Lukas_Kramer

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never had a single issue with my keyboard, but I was aware of the problem and I’ve been very careful (which I generally am). The only thing that is really annoying me is the overheating or just getting pretty hot. I am using mostly just lightroom and photoshop, but they’ve been getting quite demanding on the processor. The other thing I’d like to replace is the battery, battery life is mostly still fine, but sometimes the battery drains rather fast and I don’t really go out without a charger anymore. Knowing that would be possible with the efficiency of the M1 chips a new laptop is rather tempting !

@BharatChandran

2 жыл бұрын

+1

@carlospadron5629

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lukas_Kramer The 2016 Macbook Pro 15in was known for having bad battery life since launch. I purchased one about a year ago with a new battery and 7 battery cycles (I checked), and my battery was still bad. Looking it up on Apple's forums, people experienced the same problem when it launched. I have not run into issues with the keyboard, and I love it for what I've been able to do, but I am definitely waiting to see the M1X refresh and possibly "downgrade" to the 14"

I went in thinking, “It’s got to be the 2011 or 2016 15 inch”. And one of those it was.

@GuillermoPaulman

2 жыл бұрын

I owned both and the 2011 wasn't even quarter as bad as the 2016. I gave the 2011 to my dad and he actually still uses it as his daily driver.

I sold my 2016 13" just after it went out of warranty and even got 2/5 of my money out of it. The keyboard failed 3 times on me and the display started to delaminate. Now I have a M1 Air and it couldn't be happier.

@selma8337

2 жыл бұрын

@@JK-uc8cw idk if this is useful since ive had it for just a week. but until now i haven’t noticed any issues. no overheating even tho i used it for hours and there no “windy sounds” coming out of the laptop. im not an expert but it look really good so far

And I remember always asking my mom for a 12 inch MacBook…. I’m now glad I didn’t get it. Now I have a m1 air and I can’t be happier.

@the_mariocrafter

2 жыл бұрын

No. I am not buying a laptop without ports

@ValSX

2 жыл бұрын

@@the_mariocrafter ok?

@Speakery17

Жыл бұрын

@@the_mariocrafterDidn’t expect you here

4:35 Luke, I’m “young” enough to remember the “floppy disk transition”! I had to buy an external third-party floppy disk drive because of that. Worth mentioning also that at the same time Apple introduced USB ports (instead of SCSI)! It was a revolution in 1999! • By the way nearly a decade later I’m still using my late 2013 retina 13” MacBook, watching your YT channel on it and editing 4K videos without problem. Probably one of the best MacBooks ever made. Would buy it again.

@cristibaluta

2 жыл бұрын

If speed is not a problem then yes, good for you you have no problem with that mac.

@FredFurlowe

2 жыл бұрын

They also introduced color and style. Most computers, even Apple's own had any other color besides beige. Hmmm, maybe Silicon Graphics Workstation? Job's own NeXT? Anyhow, that iMac was a revolution and a half.

“This is the Late 2016-“ Me: KNEW IT!!!

@emmettroberts1064

2 жыл бұрын

Damnit I’m trying to sell mine

@kakarot1234567891234

2 жыл бұрын

@@emmettroberts1064 They still sell like crazy. I sold my base model 13” 2017 Pro for 700.

@sherwynbugatti

2 жыл бұрын

Your wallpaper is cool

The SD Card Scene at 5:30 cracked me up! 😂😂😂

@2012X

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@the-terminator5682

2 жыл бұрын

“I don’t even own a camera”

@dgpsf

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed he is so funny

@raseem999

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@NotWorthIt9

2 жыл бұрын

I was so terrified that I almost went over to a Gatesware machine.

The crippling graphics card failures on the early MacBooks is the reason Apple still won't work with Nvidia anymore.

@standupyak

Жыл бұрын

I thought AMD had gpu issues on macbooks too

@Tech-geeky

Жыл бұрын

It's a shame, and i would say a compay like Apple "choosing" not to work with NVidia only because of if not affect all models,,, just a few, but enough of a % to cause Apple to change is "not nice" That's what we get when we buy from a company and they make the rules... If it was a PC, this wouldn't be a problem..,. You can use whatever graphics card you liked.

Mid 2015 market still thriving 😎

@123acosta5

2 жыл бұрын

As we should be

I’ve the 2017 MacBook Pro. It’s a shame that Apple sold us this flawed keyboard MacBook. The keyboard has been replaced once but it’s still the flawed keyboard. I hope Apple would own up their mistake and allowed us to upgrade with substantial discount for faulty/unreparable laptop. Felt like the victim bullied by big tech company

@Tech-geeky

Жыл бұрын

I actually liked them

@CuriousPerson2206

11 ай бұрын

@@Tech-geekywell they had a free replacement program for the keyboards when the macbook 2017 was supported soo

Anyone notice at 10:11 the battery level is at like 80% on the Intel MacBook, and when he is done with the test it is at like 50% 10:16

@kerwinbonn3875

2 жыл бұрын

different time bruh

@panagiotispetropoulos3871

2 жыл бұрын

Its even different day bro

So happy that I got the 2015 version of my 13” macbook pro. It has all the ports and a good keyboard

@Anoalekontrieger

2 жыл бұрын

same, still a great laptop!

@maganatalia8432

2 жыл бұрын

me too, while watching this video I was thinking to myself "Boy, am I lucky I got me a MB 2015 back then." Still working just fine. But I'd like to have the new MB because I do not want to risk to wait until the lust minute of my MB's life.

Hey Luke, I don't know if you changed anything but the lighting now makes you look much nice and cleaner 😃

I can’t believe you left out the 2010 with it’s bad capacitor. But yes, the 2015 15” is probably the best option used.

I was expecting Dom toretto when he said family

@christopherjohn333

2 жыл бұрын

This is getting to a dangerous point

Luke, thanks a lot for this video. I recently had my full 2016 MBP Top Case replaced due to a keyboard issue. This lasted about 3 months before another key became stuck (worse than the original issues). Last week I was planning on taking it back in to the Apple Store and getting it fixed again, as the new parts came with a new warranty I knew I wouldn't have an issue getting it replaced again, it was just going be inconvenient. After seeing that you had your unit totally replaced with the 2019 model, I politely requested a similar resolution to my issue, and I am picking up my brand new replacement 16" MBP tomorrow, free of charge. It does appear that Apple are willing to do the right thing here, at least in my case. Thanks again. Great content as always.

My daily is still a 2012 15” MB retina. I guess I got one of the good ones. It must had been made on a Tuesday or Wednesday. 😄

@tylerFC1

2 жыл бұрын

“Daily” mf’s acting like computers are cars 😂

@adamr4198

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerFC1 well technically it’s my personal computer that I use about twice a week. So not really my “daily”. But it be feels wrong calling it a “PC” when it’s Mac.

@tylerFC1

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamr4198 I was just messing around just sounds funny to me being a car person. Surface pro x for shows and M1 pro for school. So I get it haha.

@adamr4198

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerFC1 no worries. RCR is one of my favorite channels.

@tylerFC1

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamr4198 I just started school for IT so I’m just now learning about what makes computers work. Still have tons to learn! Haha

Watching this on my mid-2015 15" Macbook Pro. Everything works, never repaired (but changed the battery last year), not a scratch, perfect screen ... don't need higher performance. I hope it runs for 10 more years :)

@florind1587

2 жыл бұрын

Same here! Got it “like new”, no scratches, perfect display, battery still Ok. The 2015 MBP is a killer!

@jrnmadsen2710

2 жыл бұрын

@@florind1587 Yup, my rule #1: My computer must run every day, all the day. I use it a lot. Who cares about fancy spec's and talk,- if you spend time in the repair shop. I bought it in 2017 as new. My 2012 model died in a 6 feet drop. I phoned my tech friends: "What about the new models?". "Don't buy, new models are a nightmare. Find a shop with a 2015 model in stock." I did, best computer I ever had. (I have many, but it's my faithful workhorse)

@bobweiram6321

2 жыл бұрын

The performance of the later models are faster, but not fast enough.

@mushroomlegion

2 жыл бұрын

Also bought a 2015 MBP and it runs perfect :)

@ibrahimishaq1930

2 жыл бұрын

Got one brand new with the 16gb I7 and dual graphics, almost time to. Change it tho changed battery after 3years, time to get the 2019 model

Not only great content, but great video quality as well! I still miss the 2014 Mac mini I scored off eBay as a work from machine before I could save up for one of the new M1 minis. That 2014 was a trooper.

Don’t forget the 21.5 inch 2.3ghz iMac model it’s still retailing for 999 dollars. The worst purchase I ever made 🥲

@sh1121

2 жыл бұрын

Giving $300 more and getting the M1 would had given you better speed, efficiency and screen real estate

Hi Luke! I have been following your channel for a long time. I literally started loving Macs after I started watching your videos.

Been subscribed since almost the very beginning -- you sir have made amazing progress with your videos and style. Good work!

Rocking a 2010 MacBook Pro which has kernel panics 10 times daily right now and waiting for second generation Apple Silicon chip MacBook ☺️

@velxcity07

2 жыл бұрын

Bro same I’m rocking 2012 Dual core i5 Mac mini with stock HDD and thermal paste 😬

@kyledavis23

2 жыл бұрын

I... have a late 2011 MacBook Air (dual-core i5, 1.7Ghz) that will hit 75-80 Celsius when watching KZread at 720p60... I think I need an upgrade.

@velxcity07

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyledavis23 Easy: get MacsFanControl.

@maxpayne7030

2 жыл бұрын

@@velxcity07 I did install an SSD but still has the stock thermal paste and 4 GB RAM 🙂. It's kinda a headache but buying M1 rn is kinda idiotic as I believe M1X is right around the corner. And I bet the thermal paste must have evaporated by now lol

@maxpayne7030

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyledavis23 bro mine too reaches 80-85°C while watching YT at 1080P@60 😭. First I thought it was a glitch in Chrome but Safari was lagging and heating. So its my Mac after all

0:13 definetly not reading a script xD

"I seriously think that Apple would do very well if they made a 15 inch Macbook Air like literally M1 same design same everything ... but just larger, people would absolutely buy that", this aged really well, Apple literally just gave us a 15 inch m2 mba

I don’t know how but you still make the older generation macs more interesting than some channels that only talk about new models and updates. Also thanks to you I snacked a 2015 MacBook Pro and and 2010 iMac for less than a new Mac mini and brought it up to todays standards and couldn’t be happier 👌

I use the xd card reader for extra memory. I have a flushed sd card sitting there. USEFUL.

Honestly, I absolutely adored the butterfly keyboard and never had any problems with it, over about 5 years of having that Mac. I never gave it special treatment and frequently ate whilst typing and stuff

@Tech-geeky

Жыл бұрын

so do I, but i kinda got used to the new designs as well.. Personally, i dunno what all the fuss is about.... It's not like the house shook when typing

@ryanalencar

5 ай бұрын

Hey, how is going on with the keyboard? @tech-geeky

I love my M1 Air, doin game and software development on it and it has been holding up great! Only thing I'd like to upgrade is RAM, but I am still managing to do fine with 8 GB.

@Tech-geeky

Жыл бұрын

We are used to the eco-system, everything just working together, SMB networking etc... but the exception is always "upgrades". Why is that ?? Its almost like we can't get used to it... We goit used to everything else limited about Apple, but its probably because it was less upgradable before than it is now... I would still say, your in the eco-system... We know Apple better.

5:36 - OMG that skit was hilarious 😂😂

I have an external SD Card reader and an adapter for my USB-C to three USBs and I still got excited when you said possible built in SD card reader in the future

While I recently bought a M1 MacBook Pro, my 2011 MacBook Pro is still working just fine, which shows how great a machine that was, especially given the ports it has, how quiet it was for an intel machine.

I have a 15 inch MacBook Pro from 2017, and it has been a good performer for the most part. I like the keyboard, although its better on my new MacBook Air M1. It has been quite a workhorse, but the M1's are really great!

Love the vids Luke!

I owned the 2016 15” and now own the 2019 16” and honestly haven’t ever had any problems with either. Both were perfect laptops to me.

Back in 2016, when the touch bar was a new and big thing, and my brother was looking to get a new MacBook, he was gonna get the 2016 15 inch MacBook Pro, but I strongly advised him against it. Told him it doesn't have SD reader, less ports, barely performs better, and the touch bar isn't as useful. After some talking, I managed to convince him to get the 2015 model. Of course at the time we didn't know about the problem with the butterfly keys, so that was a massive bullet that he dodged by getting the 2015 model. He's still using it to this day, still going strong.

@GuillermoPaulman

2 жыл бұрын

I was hesitating between the same two models, but ended up buying the 2016 one. I still have to do a facepalm when I think of that :D

Bought a mid 2015 15 inch largely based on your advice. Very happy with it - thanks a lot for your help 👍

the touch bar on macbook is literally one of my fav thing why do people hate it

@aidansullivan3154

2 жыл бұрын

i know right! i think it’s pretty awesome

@quxncy9492

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder the same thing

@alexander_martinez6084

2 жыл бұрын

Because they’re over privileged brats

@nejijack

2 жыл бұрын

its so annoying

@shixuo

2 жыл бұрын

@@nejijack 😟 no?

Excellent Video! Thanks for sharing Luke.

I've got a 2017 12-inch Macbook and it's been great for me since I bought it new! It still runs well for me and none of the problems listed in this video have demonstrated themselves. It gets a little warm if you use it on your lap, but on a desk, or on a vertical stand like I have it on, even makes that a non-issue.

I figured it would be one these models. Good video and glad I watched.

When I saw Luke doing that SD card joke, I thought: Damn, this guy is Hollywood star in another universe

I’m so glad I decided to sell mine a few months back I knew It was on the verge of failing

I have the 2016 mbp 5 yrs now, and never had a problem with the keyboard and it still works fine! I will wait till apple brings out a rlly good one.

I still have the A1534 "Macbook 12" Retina 2015". Works smoothly and haven't faced any issues yet. Including the thermal troubles that you have said. My usb C works seamlessly and the keys are working fine, butterfly keys working fine. And i still vouch for the butterfly keys. I simply love em!!!

I'm still sour about losing the super drive. I replaced my TV and DVD player with my computer years ago and after upgrading last year have had to resort to home brewing my device so I can rip all my dvds because It's really difficult to balance a Mac AND an external dvd drive on your lap while having a late night movie marathon🤣

5:37 That earned you a like instantly. (I usually wait till the end to give the like, but this was fantastic 😅😂)

Watching this on my 2017 13 inch MacBook working just fine

It's my first time to see you having a dialogue. Entertaining 😁

3:09 it's not every day you create an entirely new meme format. We have just witnessed one such instance.

You can still replace the keyboards on those mac books without buying the whole palm rest. The rivets can be cut off with the right angle cutters and the new one will drop right in and holds pretty well since apart from the rivets those keyboards have a tone of screws holding them down. I used to do this at the repair shop I worked at

Can you please one day talk about the titanium PowerBook G4

Yeah my 2016 15” Pro is solid, had a top case change FOC after 2 years so my battery and keyboard is in great shape, still runs like new and the screen is awesome! I don’t want to leave my touchbar so these new rumoured 16” M1/2’s don’t have my exited but I do need something that’s less dependent on the fans at higher loads

@XxmatixX6videosdiariosdenadav

2 жыл бұрын

Why?

@randombloke10

2 жыл бұрын

@@XxmatixX6videosdiariosdenadav why what? I’ve owned it nearly 5 years and thanks for the first couple of performance updates it runs better than when I first got it. For me the butterfly keyboard is perfection, I prefer a shallow key travel that I barely have to tap to work and I even like the obnoxiously loud thunks. I’ve played with the new style scissors and they just feel mushy but it’s just something I’ll have to adapt to when I decide on if I want the Apple Silicone 16” ones. The touchbar for me has worked perfectly 99.9% of the time with maybe 2 hiccups in my years of ownership but the adaptability of the function row for when I’m recording or editing without having to know every shortcut is great, moreover the proof of touch based digital inputs had been proven to be better than set in keys years back with the original iPhone, the more we can go towards fully adjustable display style keyboards, the better we can improve the user experience for everything, the only real downside would be repair costs but given that screens are reliable and non of the current system can be repaired as is then it wouldn’t be the end of the world

@cristibaluta

2 жыл бұрын

This was my only mac that didn't broke in crucial areas, but can't wait for M1x.

@dopameen6395

2 жыл бұрын

I just bought one for $500 with a missing SSD so I installed Big Sur on a external drive, man besides only being to run in safe mode, the machine is pretty clean and smooth like you I love the keyboard too, i type super fast with it the graphics are nice too….I’m only gonna be using for music production so all the other issues like ports and everything is irrelevant to me, I have desktop hackintosh with a i5 so I know this 16gb/i7 about to 10x better

lol when i saw the thumbnail, i thougt you would be talking about the 2006 white Core Duo Macbook

I have a 2016 13’ MBP and i only had minor issues with dirt under the keyboard, but spamming the key fixes it. Apart from that i never had any issues with it

i love my 13“ macbook pro from 2016 :) but maybe im biased because my keyboard hasn‘t failed a single time (yet)

I’ve got a mid-2015 15in MacBook Pro and it still runs soooo smooth, but not the fastest. It still works honestly it’s amazing for how old it is.

love the sd card acting! lol

@Mopsie

2 жыл бұрын

That was gold

I am in the process of rebuilding a 2010 mac book, did I make a mistake? Thank you for telling us about the issue with the different mac books.

You have now reached the pinnacle of premium content with that cutaway 👏

I came here from genius bar podcast and I'm super glad I did. Awesome video 👍

Broooo rippppp I actually got my Late 2016 15 inch MacBook Pro right when it came out and I feel like it’s a ticking time bomb. The cycle count is low on the battery and overall I would say it runs like new. However, I did get a stuck “b” key but was able to fix it with some compressed air. For anyone wanting to preserve their Late 2016 MacBook Pros, make sure to NEVER eat over it and ALWAYS wipe down the key caps when you begin to notice oils from your fingertips on it to prevent ScreenGate. I also installed Macs Fan Control on mine so the Mac won’t kill itself when it begins to throttle when editing 4K movies. Hopefully this helps y’all out 🤞🏽🤞🏽

I had a late 2016 15 inch MacBook Pro. I luckily never had a keyboard issue, but I did have a number of bizarre niche issues that are very specific so not worth mentioning tbh that prevented it from being the great machine I was hoping for. I will say though, it was the dawn of excellent speakers on MacBooks - and it was incredibly thin for it's power level.

I was working as a mac tech at this point. I did so many logic board replacements because of the graphics card failure recall and also doing the top cases were such a hassle for the keyboard. They did not really test out that design before releasing it.

I got a 2016 15" MacBook Pro for $900 AUD back in July 2018, which was a steal back then as they sold for a lot more than that back then (and still command that much for a worn out one today, let alone a nice one). Mine has not shown any of the issues, it's still on it's original 2016 keyboard, it doesn't have any delamination issues, although the screen backlight is uneven in some spots, but otherwise looks normal and is hard to really notice anyway. It's been a really solid machine for me and I'll no doubt keep it for a little while longer as I like the ability to run VMware Fusion and Windows on it which Apple Silicon can't do yet. My guess for the reason it's lasted as long as it has without any issues is because the original owner always had it on a desk with the lid closed and used with an external monitor, keyboard & mouse since they took it out of the box as they replaced an old Mac mini with it, so it was like brand new when I got it. In my ownership since 2018 it has never been a primary machine, it's mostly been a secondary or travel machine. I'm really surprised I've never experienced a keyboard failure as I live in a very dusty environment that's impossible to keep clean. I guess I'm lucky in that regard but it's never given me trouble. Would I recommend one though? Hell no. Maybe before the M1 I would have if the price was way below market value like mine was, but now that the M1 exists you may as well just get a 2015 15" or if you really need Intel over an M1 for running Windows then a 2019 16" over any of the butterfly keyboard ones.

Dang I have a 2017 MacBook Pro but 13”. Sadly it had to pay around $300 to fix one damn chip just because I didn’t charge it for a long time.

That SD card skit was gold! 🤣

Probably lucky, but I love my 13" MBP 2018 with x4 ports. As I don't need a 15", the smaller version seems a good choice.

@kingjay239

2 жыл бұрын

I have one of those too, and I love it.

I have the 13" M1 MBP and while it is fully loaded, the display on the computer is not really big enough so I end up using it with my external 5K display when I need more display space. I'd love to have more screen space on the laptop when I am not at my desk but that just isn't really possible right now.

Happily sticking with my Mid-2012 Macbook Pro. Still going strong and meeting all my needs [superdrive included], with no aggravating "quirks" or tragic design flaws :D

My fully loaded 2016 MacBook Pro has a 2017 keyboard, with the option key logos. Apple installed it during the replacement program. Had to have the battery replaced too. No problems last 2 years, far more reliable now than when it was new. Crashed all the time for first 2 years. Paid $4300 new, won't be replacing anytime soon.

Great video. This is why I’m still using my awesome 2014 15” MacBook Pro. As soon as a M1X or M2 16” MacBook Pro is released, I’ll order it.

2017 12 inch MacBook is one of the best computers I’ve ever owned. Such a zipply gorgeous little thing. I love love love love it so much.

My 2017 13 inch MBP start suffering from stuck keys. I had the top half replaced under warranty but after 2 months or so same problems and its out of warranty now.I found all that is needed is to tap the culprit key a few times (maybe 10 or 20 times) and it fixes it. Its likely food or some crap inside the key.

Great videos! I had an idea for a video. Doing a March madness type tournament to see what is the best macbook or imac

Still rocking my mid 2015 15inch, the last great one of that era,

6:27 I hadn’t used my 2018 MacBook Pro in almost 2 months and now that I’ve started to use it again, the space bar is behaving the same way it always does before it gets stuck. Plus the “I” key is also repeating which is lovely considering this keyboard is only 4 months old and it’s just been sitting there most of the time with the lid closed since I haven’t needed it during the summer. I’d be scared to have a 2016 model with expired warranty because my computer has the “improved” version.

Lmao, I bought the “Mysterious Water Damaged MBP” from you. Still don’t regret it, lol.

I'm still using a late 2016 Macbook pro base model and prefer that keyboard over any other (previous or present)

5:37 I love the skit I have a family 😭😭😭 Do it Hahahahahaha 😂🤣

I loved mine! I used a keyboard condom because they are super temperamental but other than that it was great as a daily driver and is still going strong as a hand me down to a family member. That said, I completely agree at second hand prices you'd get much better value on a refurb M1.

5:37 The SD card horror movie, rolling out (maybe) this October!

tech tuber is legit when he tell both pros and cons and side effects

The bit where you showed what was happening in the peoples minds was hilarious🤣

I got this mac one and a half years back, to get me through my Master's and some light creative work (along with my iPad pro) and it works fairly well. Nothing compared to my 2015 Mac pro that lasted me 7 years (2015-2022), but I needed something cheap and cheerful, and a MacBook. I got mine refurbished (with a 2017 replacement keyboard) and it worked very well for 7 months until I updated my OS where it reinstalled some firmware (I assume its e-waste from a company) so for a good 8 months I had no working laptop (had to save up) and it was essentially a pretty paperweight, which was a shame because its in fantastic condition and clean inside but the refurbisher didn't completely remove the firmware. Last month I got bored one night and did some more digging around and I found a "life saving tutorial" on how to remove it and it worked so I now have a working laptop and can now wait until the Black Friday sales to buy a new one (here's hoping), so far so good. I tested downloading, reinstalling the OS and the firmware isn't coming back so its definitely gone now. Thats definitely a risk you have buying a refurbished laptop, a lot of them are work machines that are given to independent refurbishing companies as E-Waste and they dont always remove the firmware properly. So if you're not extremely tech savy and have time on your hands then you've wasted money. Don’t risk it! However, should you buy this from a reputable seller? Personally, I would go back and get a well specked 2014-2015 pro retina mac. Because of the terrible keyboard on the 2016, I mean before the issues I had with the firmware (which I sorted) I did have some problems with sticking keys and the touch bar is quite a dumb idea (dont be fooled, the hate is justified), despite all this I'll definitely be holding onto mine for another 5 months. Its a "okay" machine (despite its flaws) but the 2013-2015 is a "great" machine and it still looks great today. The 2012 is "god-tier" and a steal (if you look about) and you can upgrade the ram and hard-drive (to an SSD), if you don't need the retina display and don't mind an older design that still holds up today (especially when the new macbooks are starting to get thicker anyways) that could be a great option. All I'm saying if you are wanting a modern aesthetic (and don't mind the very probable flaws), extended software support, yeah go (with caution) with the 2016. If you don't mind an older looking device that works solidly for normal tasks, school work, light creative tasks and don't mind looking around youtube on how to install the latest (compatible) mac OS with OpenCore legacy patcher then the 2012 is a great option. If you want the best of both worlds then a i7, 16gb 256 gb (I wouldn’t go below these specs personally) 2013-2015 is the way to go in my opinion and is arguably much better than the 2016, you’ll likely have less problems and decent performance, oh and a good selection of ports. Everything is running well (fingers-cross) so waiting until the M1 14 Inch are either back in the apple refurb store or I get a good deal brand new, I'll then sell my current Mac, probably as parts to be honest as I don't want to run the risk of selling it to a "normal" consumer that thinks they're getting a good deal and buy it as a present for their kid at least then I'll be selling it to someone that is likely to understand the pros and cons of this particular mac and is looking for spare parts

Cheers mate for this video & thanks for being honest.

Solid points. The only Mac's i'm buying right now are Apple Silicon (new) or mid 2015 and prior. Anything in between that's not fully depreciated doesn't make a ton on sense from a value perspective.

The SSD straight up died on my mom's 2015 12" MacBook. I didn't realize it was a common issue.

I have it and agree the keyboard is annoying, did not even bothered to replace it. However, i had many macs since mac mini g4 and this is the only one that didn't broke in crucial areas.

I have a Vintage Apple BLACK Macbook that I still use it, all I have to do is replaced the Keyboard is I connected with a external keyboard that also lights up, on which I have a MAC repair person connection.... I like it....

Still rocking a Late-2013 15” here 😄

@bobweiram6321

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Best model ever made.

@gregordiseth6651

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I have one as well, and I love it! I can use it most of the day on its {original} battery!

I'm hanging on to my 2015 macbook pro for a while longer. I'm dying a little bit on the inside every day I wait.

I still push 2015 top spec'd MB Pros when someone needs a used machine. For the ports, easy to work on, keyboard, and reliability over the newer models. Apple did great for a few years allowing the thermal paste to be replaced without removing the logic board, until the 2016 model, where it requires a board removal. 2015 also has the SSD separate and not soldered onto the board like 2016 and up.

I have my MacBook Pro 15inch Unibody Mid2012 and still works perfectly fine today with Big Sur Installed.

May I nominate my Mid-2015, 15.4" MBP? - Apple already replaced the delaminated screen but declined to do anything about the inflatable battery. The fans blow alarmingly often. The left speaker also became unusable so I had to disable it. I replaced the battery myself but the speaker was beyond my skill set. I'll keep it as long as I can and replace it with an iPad.

I got the keyboard replaced, and the big plus with that is that they replace the battery as well; however, I never really experienced any issues with it. I just figured I use the program while it was available. None of this is even the worst part. The part that gets me with this MacBook are the internals. It may not even be Apple's fault but the Intel chip gets so damn hot that you can't really have it on your lap. My 2016 is still in mint condition but I scooped up the 16 inch with the 5600m as soon as it came out and it's night and day.