Thanks all for watching. Subscribe, like & comment. Any questions throw them in the comments and I’ll get back to you all 😊

@theshoeministries

Жыл бұрын

can you tell me if the Garmin has golf course simulation like the optishop2? is this included with the Garmin? does it come with software to be hooked up to my laptop?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@theshoeministries yes or phone through e6 and the Garmin golf app

Canadian from Oz here putting a like and sub for you, your content is great. I think people need to think about what they're looking for in a set-up as well. I have an R10 in my garden and I hit into a net connected to an iPad. I bought Awesome Golf over upgrading the included e6 license, but I quite liked e6. It's just that I'm out in the garden hitting balls having fun and want a certain experience. If you're looking for fitting level feedback, well, the R10 is a poor choice. So is the Mevo+ potentially. But it's down to what you want to measure, what your budget is, and what use case you're looking to solve. I'm happy with the R10 giving me pretty accurate distance and shape data, but I know it's not going to properly reflect everything. I'm also not a scratch golfer. If I had unlimited funds I'd have a GCQuad and a dedicated PC / indoor enclosure. I don't. But this let's me hit more balls than I would otherwise, and at the end of the day hitting more balls = better golf. e; oh yeah, Garmin and Titelist have unofficially said there's a software update coming for the R10 for RCT support. I still probably won't bother, but that might interest some folks. also, mate, return the RCT balls and buy a box of gloves. That one is done.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Hey mate, welcome to the channel 😊 couldn’t agree more with your comments. You’re 100% spot on and I think basically the same way. In relation to the glove I actually have a box of new gloves lol 😂 I’m a bit attached to this one though, she’s still got life in her

Watched your reviews... Just picked up an R10... It's legit! Thanks for putting out the content you do. It was helpful. Haven't used the mevo but I also can't afford it and it doesn't sound like its worth the $$$. I'm happy with the R10!

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, and yeah you will love the R10. It's amazing valuer for money

Hey! Great video! Love the comparison! Thanks for affirming the r10. Looks like the banding on the screen is better too! Can’t even see it! Looks good bro!

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Yes thanks Dave, That was from your recommendation. Just fiddled with the settings and found one that worked. I think I do need a better camera though as I can get the picture clear on screen but then grainy in the darker areas.

Great review and comparison, David. I appreciate all the effort you put into this and definitely think the R10 will be the one for me. I've watched several of your reviews and appreciate your candor and ability to point out the most important things... aka... Awesome Gold vs. R10 software. Thanks again!

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Thank you mate, My pleasure and glad you like the content. plenty more coming :)

This was really helpful. Thanks for not cutting out all the misreadings from the video.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Thank you mate 😊 glad it’s helped

Great stuff Dave, I noticed this video is 4 months ago, just purchased some RCT balls as the R10 has been updated to use them. I bought the R 10 because I can afford it, and for the average golfer, which is probably 90% of us the extra for the memo is not worth it, I’m using mine with the Spornia net and the money saved on the R10 I will put it towards my indoor setup. The beauty of simulators is the fact we’re hitting balls every day, there’s no driving range near me and even if there were, all those buckets of balls cost. Finally there is a guy who has taken his R10 and set it up in a $50k simulator and compared the same shot side by side and with the exact same shots his R10 was within 2 yds most of the time. There’s a huge market for home simulators and as technology improves the numbers will get even More accurate . The cost for more accurate launch monitors will drop as more of us adopt them as a great way to add to our enjoyment of the sport. Garmin knows this and will improve even further. Cheers

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more mate. The R10 is fantastic value for money and the comparisons to much more expensive units are so minimal in their differences that it’s not worth spending the extras money for the average home user

Great review. Really appreciation the effort (and money) you put into this.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊 appreciate the comment and support

Another great review. Thanks. Your videos have really helped me to learn a lotl about the Garmin R10 which I only bought a week ago. Only had a couple of sessions with it at the range so far. Unfortunately I don't have a setup at home. Would love to set it up in my garage but the ceiling is too low. Unless I set it up anyway and just hit punch shots. Lol.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Good way to practise wedges 😁 my ceiling is only 2.85m high

@rouxf13

Жыл бұрын

Set it up outside your garage and hit into the garage with a net :) At least that's my plan come winter. My ceiling is too low too.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@rouxf13 it’s a bit too long of a journey for the ball to screen and the driveway is on a hill but good idea though

@boojiboy2275

Жыл бұрын

@@rouxf13 unfortunately I have a steep driveway so setting up the R10 8 feet behind the ball will mean it is way below the level of the ball which is bound to screw up the radar readings. Plus if the ball comes back out of the net it will roll down the driveway and I'll be chasing it down the street which is also on a slope! 😂 Good idea though. 👍

Great video…I have a garmin and been thinking about getting a mevo. This has helped me save some money

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Yeah keep the money in your pocket and get some lessons with it instead. That will be the biggest help 😁 and best use of money

@D-Allen

Жыл бұрын

Read the comments of people that are more familiar with the Mevo+, it may change you mind. ☺

Nice comparison. I think metal dots work on both now and although you'd need two separate iPad's in this case to do a side-by-side-same-ball comparison, it can be done now, right? It'd be interesting to do a v2 of this video with that type of comparison.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Technically but I don’t have 2 iPads and each time I’ve tested the numbers have come out really close it each other anyway

Great comparison, you needed the love with the iPad damage. I would look into finding a way to compare these directly - this seems like the hardest choice in this price category.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

When the Garmin can read the RCT balls I think that will be the best comparison. It’s a more direct one anyway 😊 and yes devastated about the iPad

In order to really do a "shot by shot comparison" you could go to the range or in your indoor sim with your setup on the ipad with the R10 and the full set up (different ipad, different wifi / bluetooth connection) and the metal dots of someone having a Mevo+ (it does come with the metal dots when you buy it). The idea of the average comparison isn't bad but to get a significant result you'll need two things you've not done: a lot more shots (including the "badly hit ones" is a must), say 15 or 20 per launch monitor, and alternate shots between the two, say two 7iron with the mevo, followed immediately by two 7iron on the g10, and so on, so that you don't have getting warmed up effects and getting tired effects. On top of that, ideally it should be on a "blank screen" so that the visuals of one or the other software don't influence you (I find that I unconsciously hit faster swings when the visual is "the target is far" than when the visual is "the target is close"... it's something golf architects do play on, tricking you into "seeing" a hole as short or long). Overall, flawed as it is, that test shows that the G10 with awesome golf isn't that far off the Mevo+, particularly on shorter clubs. Would be interesting to see if the gap continues to widen with 3 wood and driver or if the 4 iron is just an exception of some sort!

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Even if I used 2 iPads and 2 connections I still can’t hit 1 ball. The Garmin doesn’t read the RCT a ball or the metal dot which is required by Mevo for the accurate results. I used my phone and my iPad in the very first test with the same ball and same shot but the only way that works is with a normal ball which doesn’t produce the accurate spin rates of the Mevo+ I think all in all, for ease of use and value for money the Mevo+ actually has some catching up to do. If they want to charge $1500 more AUD for their unit then. I don’t really see the extra value personally

Thank you this helpful comparison. What software were you using on your iPad while using Garmin? The Garmin official app on iPad has very limited view. Thanks

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

I was using awesome golf

I love my Garmin unit. Been pretty accurate so far. Hope you kept your receipt for the Mevo 😂

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

It was on loan 😁

👍 that's a like for the rhyme. Cool lolol And for the iPad

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Seeing the ipad fall hurt 😢 good reason for a new one though

The Garmin is great. I hope they add putting. 😊

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully they do 😁

Thank you for the video although I do wish you would do your research first and then post videos. The RCT ball is not officially recognized by the M+ (yet). The increased signal can and does throw the M+ off sometimes. Flightscope has said they are still working on getting the M+ to recognize the unique signal from the RCT ball. Metal dots do come with the unit and is still the only official way to enhance the radar signal in short indoor mode. The R10 is clearly a good device at a good price point. You appear to be a good ball striker and center the ball up most times. The Garmin algorithm works well with your swing giving good calculated spin data based on your launch angles and ball speeds although your 4 iron carry number results are a clear example of where measured spin makes a difference. IMO the Garmin R10 has narrowed the gap significantly with the M+ since it came out. The M+ still has its advantages including measuring spin indoors, more accurate path and club face data, better software for visualizing your swing data, and better chipping and putting due to the the dual camera & radar tracking. Are those things worth the extra money? Subjective but there is clearly added value there.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

I don’t disagree. And you’re right I could do a lot more research on the balls before I post the videos but part of the discovery is also fun to go on the journey with people that way. It keeps it raw and unpolished and helps me remove arriving at conclusions before I’ve filmed the videos. I’m always happy for people to correct things in the comments so we can all benefit from everyone’s knowledge. I mentioned it at the end but the Mevo+ could potentially justify its value in my opinion to the pro or aspiring tour player with those 1% details that they’re looking for. Just for the average amateur and home user I don’t think there’s an extra $1500 worth there over the R10. 😁

Did you happen to do a similar Outdoor as you did in the first comparison with these two? Interested to know your thoughts on garmin vs mevo for the long club. i've heard garmin can struggle a bit with driver?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Garmin for me with driver was perfect but the mevo I couldn't get past 230m on average into a net. Needed a lot more ball flight which obviously increases the risk of missing the net lol 😂

Maybe I missed the details here but you’re connected to the Garman on your iPad and then you’re sharing that via airplay over to a TV or other device that allows the projector to work? Just wondering how you’re getting the images from your iPad to the projector I think I’m gonna do this exact same set up. Thank you love the video. 👍👍

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

I use a hdmi to usbc cable from projector to iPad 😊

Great video David, I hear ppl say using regular balls with silver metallic sharpie mark and works with mevo plus. Maybe you can try if this really works. Cheers.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people have suggested that 😁 but I can’t do that because it would put a whole heap of silver dots on my sim screen

@JorgeMorales-do5pr

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf you right. To nice setup , I don’t thought it. Maybe in your sponia net. Today I compare garmin r10 with my skytrak. Very close , just r10 little short distance and more spin, the rest very very close. Maybe some elevation adjust can help to be identical

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@JorgeMorales-do5pr the net could have potentially worked 😁

differences i can think of, you can putt with the mevo+ and you get 5 courses with e6 connect. use it on pc. the garmin seems to do swing recording easy, not sure if mevo allows. then the price.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Yes the price difference is a big factor. For what seemingly produces the same results in numbers.

Great video! When you pick up a new iPad maybe grab a new golf glove too, lol! I think you’ve worked through that one!

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

😂 nah she’s still good haha 😂 I’m a bit attached to this one, think it’s actually become part of my hand lol. I do have more though, maybe it’s time to retire that one.

@PhoebeJay

Жыл бұрын

Haha I did notice that too. He won’t let go of it 😂 he’s got plenty 🤣

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@PhoebeJay aging like a fine wine 🍷 🧤

I sent my R10 back. I couldn't get it to be accurate. About 50% of shots seemed reasonable and 50% were easy really short or really long or really high spin or way straighter (ha!) than they should have been. My shot dispersion on the R10 looked like I should've been a tour pro (I'm not). I got a launch pro for testing and my shot dispersion looks like it should. Going to try the mevo plus next.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Good luck 👍🏼 gotta go what’s best for your game

Thanks for the video. Not sure what the benefit was to delete numbers that you didn’t think looked like a stock shot. If the shot felt good and the unit did give erroneous results then they should be kept as part of the comparison. The Mevo would drive me mad, especially if playing one of the courses.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

I just wanted to try and compare the most accurate data Mevo could provide with the R10. So the good thing about the Mevo is it tells you when it hasn’t read the spin correctly so you can delete those shots 😁 it’s the only way to get the most accurate comparison

@brettlehmann4250

Жыл бұрын

I own a mevo plus and don’t have half the problems this guy seems to but the mevo doesn’t have an update to use the balls he’s using , the r10 doesn’t measure the mevo+ does . A properly set up mevo+ will be more accurate than r10 shot shaping especially

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@brettlehmann4250 if the algorithms are accurate for the Garmin r10 which it seems they are then that’s a good thing. Yes the Mevo+ directly measures spin but the extra cost of thousands of dollars for the same numbers would be a bit of a stretch for most people. Not saying it’s not a great unit because it definitely is but is it worth an extra 2.5k? I don’t think so for the average golfer. Maybe the pro sure where they’re mostly hitting outside, for the home user where the space is limited, I’ve found the Garmin actually performed better in the shorter distances when I compare the numbers and sessions I’ve got from GC Quad

What about flightscope with awesome golf, will it be as good or better than r10?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great question and I’m not sure. But given that the numbers are so close anyway I guess the question then rises that would you want to spend an extra $1500 AUD for basically the same thing?

Great video thank you for creating! I am off 1 handicap and want something like the garmin r10. How accurate is the club path/face to path do you think?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Definitely 👍🏼 great for home use and practise

@AD-jc9sj

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf thanks David

Hi did you find the shot shape with the R10 to be off at times. I've seen other use it and they will hit a draw and R10 shows it as a fade. Did you find that at times?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Not really. It’s been spot on for me. If You look at my on course test review I did with the R10 and awesome golf it was spot on. 😊

How’s the new golf set up any issues with golf enclosure or impact screen from 24/7 ?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Not at all, so quick to setup and I haven’t had to do anything to it since. Absolutely love it. Check them out, there’s a link in the description

rct balls are not recognized by flight scope, use the recommended dots with 12 ft of ball flight and then you might get 1 miss read within a100 balls. you can adjust the sleep time on the mevo so your not waking it up all the time. If you want more consistent accurate data the mevo hands down. you also have the online play... GSpro is the big game changer here.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Problem with the 12 foot of ball flight then 8 foot behind the unit is that most garages aren’t that long. I thought that’s why they have a short indoor mode? I have 8 foot each way roughly. And yeah I knew there would be a way to adjust the sleep time. With GSpro, it’s good, but they don’t have a max version or iPad version (to my knowledge) so as I run a max environment I couldn’t use that even if I wanted to. It’s a great unit don’t get me wrong but value for money and ease of use as a home unit I think the R10 takes it for me. On the range though I’ve used the Mevo+ and it’s better. Maybe I need more time with it, I’m lending this unit so it’s going back today 😁

@jaygolfer

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf I use both dot stickered Pro V1 and RCT balls on my 10 feet ball-to-screen flight setup with Mevo+ and from my experience of hitting thousands of shots, both balls are as accurate (or in-accurate) as each other in terms of spin rate readings for me. (about 3/4 having good spin reads) Earlier this year, even the CEO of Flightscope said the results with RCT ball is as good as it gets with the Mevo+. Don't think he mentioned if they tweaked the algorithm speciifcally for it. but if they did/can, would be nice if they release an update for FS Golf to support it...) Mevo+ is in a different league to the R10 unit in terms of accuracy. Indoors, and especially at the range as it actually tracks the ball up to about 150 yards away. (Flightscope said it tracks to the peak of the ball flight but didn't mention up to what club) BTW, if your garage allows, you should change to 7 feet mevo to ball and 9 feel ball to screen. Every feet of ball flight counts with radar units.;)

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@jaygolfer thanks mate and yes if I had more room then I’d definitely use that, currently I have about 7 foot to the ball and 8-9 foot to the screen but that’s maxing out the garage length with my indoor sim. I do agree that there are significant benefits to the unit on the range but for the average home user of both products I can’t really see the extra value in the dollars. Yes it directly measures spin but the spin numbers with the r10 even though they’re calculated through and algorithm are the same anyway and just as accurate. I did try to mention it but I think for the aspiring pro or serious professional golfer that the Mevo has its advantages for sure. Just maybe not the home user

@jaygolfer

Жыл бұрын

​@@davidmaxfieldgolf Yeah. Price difference is huge that's for sure. I've also recommended the R10 to few of my friends for that very reason. However, I would like to correct you on your spin accuracy assumption if I may. If you google "Accuracy of Approach R10 Radar", you'll see the Garmin support page with details information on what it measures and does not. R10 measures 4 things. Club head speed, Ball speed, Launch angle, and Launch direction. The spin rate is not measured at all for ball flight less than 20m. So there is zero spin accuracy indoors. Also, it's not measured for ball flight slower than 90mph. Thus not useful for shorter hitters or shorter irons even out in the open range. Also, R10's angle of attack is way off compared to the measured values of the Mevo+. So personally I wouldn't be able to rely on R10's numbers to improve or gauge my swing & shot shape. R10 is however (like most radar units) very accurate for club head speed and ball speed so would be good for speed training. BTW, for your ball-to-screen distance, definitely use the metallic dot stickers on your ball for the Mevo+ (and have the dot facing forward for each shot) as it would be much more accurate / consistent than the RCT ball. Definitely give that a try!

PS - Earned a subscriber here too!!! Thank you

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Thank mate much appreciated 😊

Great video how do you feel about the r10 club path and face to path? it seems hit and miss in your video

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

It’s normally pretty spot on, the wedge that came outside to in I cut under but in general I’m mostly border line in to out or pretty neutral

@toml5551

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf most of the time it looks good just when it see path in the early to mid teens it doesn't look quite right

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@toml5551 could be camera angle

Really wish I had room for R10 at home … Have slightly off topic question … Live Mid-North Coast NSW (willing to travel for right situation) & wanted to get professionally fit for what more than likely will be my last set of clubs, any suggestions? … Had several bad experiences with club fitting so but wary.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Callaway for sure. Cover every golfer and have the best fitting experiences I’ve ever been too

@kevinconnolly754

Жыл бұрын

Callaway seem to do fittings at Coffs harbour a fair bit

David I’ve been having issues with the Garmin app. It’s only been showing the shot shape but none of the numbers or even showing the number of shots I’ve taken. The E6 app is working but not the Garmin app. Have you ever had this issue. Any ideas on how to fix.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

E6 is good but Garmin unfortunately struggles still to get the correct spin axis so that’s where the shot shape is coming from

Can you do an awesome golf vs E6 sim course review?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

I could technically yes 😁

It appears a hair dark where you are hitting, do you think this could be effecting the numbers at all? Just trying to understand why that would struggle so much. I think I also heard that it needed 8 ft. in front and 8 ft. behind, assume you already had this covered.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Yeah had the distance covered and being a radar unit the light shouldn’t effect it. I have the room darker for the video so it’s easy to see the projector. I think I just need more time with the mevo+

What’s your honest opinion on the mevo plus pro package. Vs the garmin Is the club data make the mevo better then the r10

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say so. I think value for money the r10 is fantastic and you can keep enough money in your back pocket to get coaching lessons

How does the r10 work with higher swing speeds 110+? Also how does it work with detecting hooks and slices?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

I’ve got a video coming out tonight using the r10 on course. Watch for that one with ball flights etc but my driver swing speed is about 115-118 and it’s perfectly fine

Apparently you need to have a WiFi connection at the range to make this work, or will the numbers show up on the actual R10 screen if you aren’t hooked up to your phone. I’m only asking because there isn’t ant WiFi capability at our range

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

I just feather my phone to my iPad and use that. Or you can just use your phone

You have the Mevo set up right of target line, you’re giving it less than 5 feet a flight trackman and Mevo require at minimum 10 and 8 feet radar to ball

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Probably looks that was with the camera. It’s not though. About 9 foot to screen and 7.5 feet from ball to unit.

Would you recommend this for outdoor range as well ?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

Which projector do you use for your simulator?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

It’s called an Optoma 👍🏼

What simulator software are you using on the Mevo+? Is that not available on the R10? I liked it but have the Garmin.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Awesome Golf is available on the mevo+ but the flightscope software isn't available on the Garmin

@chrisimes478

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf Ahhh that's right the Mevo has the Flightscope Software. I really like that a lot, but E6 will do for now. I just can't get into the cartoon look of Awesome but the Data seems great though.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisimes478 they’re both graphical I guess but I hear what you’re saying

Man after first 5 min video seems like the SC300i I had was more accurate than the Mevo + Hell when I used the sc300i my yardage were within 2-3 of each other every shot when using irons or wedges

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Indoors the Mevo+ struggles but outdoors it’s very good

What app are you using for the garmin ?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Awesome golf 😊

I have the R10 and the only problem for me is it doesn't do well at all with long irons or woods. For me when I hit a bad shot the R10 seems to maximize it. Example would be a thin shot on the course may run out to 125 plus yards where the R10 would be maybe 40. This isn't a direct negative on the R10 but I use it with GSPro which is a great sim software. But the startup sometimes takes 10 plus minutes to get everything to connect up. The main problem is the API back door which links the R10 through the E6connect. It gets very frustrating starting stopping reloading until it finally connects up. If Garmin would officially support GSPro I it think make a world of difference. I was thinking of moving to the Mevo Plus but after your review I don't think it's worth it. Sorry about the long post but I've had the R10 since it was released and the new updates have helped with the short distance problems.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree that there’s not really any value for the average user in upgrading to the Mevo+. You could literally buy a Garmin R10 and a new set of clubs for less than the Mevo+

@lindseyp2673

Жыл бұрын

Saw the same with the long clubs. Even bad shots transfer a lot of energy to the ball, yet it goes nowhere according to the Garmin

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@lindseyp2673 Feel fre to send me a msg on instagram and I can trouble shoot with you

@lindseyp2673

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf Thanks for the generous offer. As best I can gather, thin shots are doomed with little carry and almost no roll. I have moved my net beyond three meters from the RCT ball and over two meters back to the device. I have a shot scope and have a good idea of how far my mishits run. But, we have dry hard fairways most of the time here in North Carolina so you can get quite a bit of roll. I was hitting pretty straight balls too, so you can't explain it away with a weak slice. I'm going to try my Yupiteru alongside and hope there's no interference. Also plan to tee my three wood much higher to see if I can get more ball flight. I eventually gave up hitting it off the mat because it's a 13d. When I was at the range I did get off a good one or two but apples and oranges I suppose, net versus 30m of radar data.

@lindseyp2673

Жыл бұрын

One of my 3 wood shots went 40 yards. The only way that happens is a sky ball or just barely nicking the ball or water or a tree. The rough at Augusta is not that deep. I've been to the Masters a couple of times 😁

How are you getting on a projector?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

HDMI cable to iPad

I’m not sure, that a metal dot or a RCT ball is necessary with the Mevo plus. I hit 30 balls, 4 have the metal dot, I see no difference. Since the last update, camera and radar, it’s like the 25,000 dollar launch monitors. And my Mevo plus was $1600.00 brand new. It’s well worth 10 times what the R-10 is worth if you can putt. Most important part of scoring and practice. Just my 2 cents worth. Keep up the good work.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

That’s way cheaper than here in Aus. We are double that price for a Mevo+ here

How about hitting regular balls with metal dots? R10 can't read regular balls with the dot? Maybe a small metal dot won't interfere with r10 reading the shots as much as an rct ball?

@sean.the.adhd.golfer

Жыл бұрын

nope

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Like Sean said. It doesn’t work ☹️

Just cause R10 doesn't use RCT doesn't mean won't read the ball. You should have used RCT for R10 so same exact ball for spin, Smash, compression, side spin. It will still read the ball just not use the RCT part of the ball. By using 2 seperate balls all the numbers will be different cause every ball has different composition

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

True, you can not use a metal dot with both units

both a great units but one is mostly guessing and the other is mesuaring the ball :)

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

The R10 isn’t guessing. It’s not measuring like the Mevo+ but it is using a very accurate algorithm which for me has been band on with just about every club every time I’ve tested it against another launch monitor 😊

@kurtislowe6749

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf weird. I have an R10 and it constantly gives me inaccurate information. I hit many draws that it shows as push fades and gets my launch angle incorrect a lot

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtislowe6749 give yourself a little bit more room to the net/screen

@kurtislowe6749

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf no this is outside on the range. I'm really trying to understand why mine is so off. So I bring a tape measure with me, I find flat spot , I put it exactly 7' behind me and use alignment sticks to make sure I'm lined up with it and I'm only getting accurate data maybe 60-70% of the time tops. The carry deviation seems really off and a lot of shows the flight path completely wrong. And when I hit a good drive I know from experience my launch angle is in the double digits and it will tell me 4-5 Thanks for the response!

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtislowe6749 hey mate, firstly range balls will be a lot shorter, so if your distances are off then that’s why. Next thing is to plug your r10 into a desktop and update the unit through Garmin express. That should help

how do you hook the garmin to projector?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

HMDI cable from the projector to iPad

@thegreatproductspage1860

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf nice thank you!

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@thegreatproductspage1860 no worries

3:20 unless something has changed, Flight Scope does not approve an RCT ball and only the metal dot. This being said, none of the data can be considered accurate. Please do this with the metal dot for an accurate review. You need follow what is recommended by flight Scope, there is a reason the RCT balls are not recommended. Also, the Garmin R10 does NOT read the actual spin when the ball travels less than 20 meters or flies less than 90 mph (from Garmin). That being said, my take on it is that I think the R10 is a good product for the price, but those of you that want a launch monitor that is very comparable to a Trackman for a lot less expensive, go with the Mevo+.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

I believe the January update changed that for flightscope and also the latest update for Garmin measures tells you when it’s measured the spin or not with italics. Like flightscope 😊

I thought Mevo + could read normal balls on the range. If so then a range comparison would be a way to actually compare results from the same shot. Plus you can actually see shot shape and laser measure distance. Only issue maybe the 2 units side by side may interfere with each other. But we’ll done on work so far

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Problem with doing that is the Mevo+ has a range ball function which adjusts the numbers in their algorithms and the Garmin doesn’t, it just reads the ball you hit. So the numbers would always be different

@richardlawrence5415

Жыл бұрын

Why not just use the mevo on normal not range mode. The range ball mode is used to try and extrapolate to what a normal ball would do. If you used the non range mode then you would get a reading for what the ball is actually doing identical to the R10. Sure the numbers would not be the same as on the course but at least we would see how the spin algorithm of the R10 competes with the now actuate Mevo. Just a thought

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@richardlawrence5415 I’d have to take my phone and my iPad and connect them both separately and then set everything up. It’s quite a process

@richardlawrence5415

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf fair enough…….but wouldn’t you like to know? We all realise Mevo is going to be more accurate, but by how much. Esp spin

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@richardlawrence5415 I would like to know but not with range balls if that makes sense. I prefer the sim numbers because at least that’s where I’m using proper balls 😁

I appreciate the effort you put into this review, but ... I don't believe that the comparison ought to be physically between the two units. First, if you get a bad number it should be included as it represents what an owner of the device would see. Second, if you are attempting to quantitatively check accuracy it is my belief you need a standard such as a Trackman or Foresight (either GC4 or GC3) then present a table you create post data gathering to assign accuracy and reliability numbers to. Finally, my point of view is that the applied dots and/or RCT balls should not be used, certainly not without a standard to compare them against. My argument against the dots / RCT balls are that you wouldn't want to have to apply them at the range (and who would do that?) and the cost.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

I hear where you’re coming from and in many cases you’re right. It’s just not possible to do that unfortunately. I go to have a trackman or quad here so I can’t use those numbers as a baseline. It was more to compare the units against each other and validate the accuracy of one another. The reason why I delete the shots of the italic spin rates is because Mevo is honest enough to use those and say that it hasn’t read the data correctly. So I wanted to put the very best results I could get from Mevo+ up against the Garmin. So with the best it could offer there was minimal difference between the 2 units other than why could be considered as a strike difference.

David, are you sure the R10 refuses to read a ball with a metal dot on it?

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Yup or if it does read it reads inaccurate shots as the metal interferes. Garmin have stated this I found out 😀

@andysamb4

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf Fair enough. Any chance of doing an old range ball vs better ball comparison. Talking with a Pro (i.e. hits the ball better than me more often) thought that was a key issue in distance and spin accuracy.

That was tough to watch

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Think this needs to be updated

Sorry about the busted iPad.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

I know 😒 that one hurt a lot. New Ipad needed now

like in the previous comment , you just don't have the distance for the radar to do the work . It needs to be able to see the ball fly .... You just didn't gave the mevo any chance in the test .

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

The Mevo+ has a short indoor function for this exact use but if it can’t do that and I need 12 feet of ball flight plus 8 feet behind the ball then it’s not a very practical unit for a home simulator as not many garages have that length and that kids makes the Garmin even better for the money

@stevevinck4452

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf how do you want radar to do a good job without seeing the flight. You basically say that you need a photo based system. And it´s not because the R10 gives you numbers that they are correct. In my opinion that´s the reason why the ball goes straight even if you yourself call it a bad shot. Go to the range and hit those 220 yards Irons and see how close they are together just for reality check.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

@@stevevinck4452 I did mate, check out my range video. I also compared the R10 to GC Quad as well in another video. It's accurate. Flightscope have made the short indoor function for that purpose of the home user. You're right that for the best results it needs at least 12 feet of ball flight but the Garmin needs less. Not all radar units are the same just because they're radar. Hence why the Garmin can't pickup the RCT ball as yet and the mevo+ can..

Think you might need a new glove while you're getting the ipad fixed

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Yup lol 😂

I own both units & I have to completely honest with you: I've never seen a more bias hack job review in my life. Frankly, I like both units but either you have zero clue what you're doing or you have an agenda. Also, Flightscope doesn't recognize rct balls but they work fine.

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

This comparison was done before the RCT ball was compatible with the Garmin. I stated that in the intro and what’s why I couldn’t use it to compare both. But since you have both units, feel free to do your own review if you think you can do it better 👍

@crishi7459

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf At least I know how to use both units. How can you do a fair review if you can't even turn sleep mode off? I understand that you borrowed the mevo plus but 30 seconds in setings is all it takes. I go WEEKS without no-reads on mevo plus but mine is setup properly. I'd recommend to anyone who viewed this to watch other reviews. I rarely comment on these videos but this one was intentionally misleading.

Dude change that glove please!!! Garmin does not offers putting, that is important and you didn’t mentioned

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

All simulator putting sucks. Better to not have it in my opinion. And the glove has been replaced but at this point I still had plenty of life in it

Your lighting is too low. Read directions

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Editing so people can see 👍🏼

Go outside

@davidmaxfieldgolf

Жыл бұрын

Have done, but can’t compare them outside really. Garmin doesn’t have a range ball function. I could go to the practise hole but it’s only 120m Also I did an outside test with driver and Garmin was spot on 👍🏼

@benbaxter2400

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmaxfieldgolf Thanks for the reply, looking forward to getting my Mevo here soon.