Judo is the martial art that teaches you how to hit a person with a planet

@jb6368

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly,,nothing hits harder than concrete,,,

@Godlybuilding

5 жыл бұрын

gingercore69 oh shit that’s a good ass imaginative way of looking at it 😂

@gingercore69

5 жыл бұрын

@It's my way or the Highway 1968 well, you dont have to perfect it to use it against an average joe... With just 3 months of judo you can dominate anyone who doesnt have grappling experience if you train hard enough(at least 3 times a week with a teacher and sparing at least 5 times a week)

@gingercore69

5 жыл бұрын

@Keda as a boxer, i agree... We can ko people with 1 punch... But its still not as amazing as hitting someone with a planet...

@gingercore69

5 жыл бұрын

@Keda dont be so sure... Bjj may suck against multiple oponents... But there are certain throws in judo that can be aimed at specific targets... If you follow the basic strategy of get one of them between you and the other... You can throw that bastard into the other bastard and make them both fall(ive used it before, i dont know judo but ive learned a few throws from a friend who knows "police self defense" amd ive used them in fights in this way... Throw one into another and run like a bitch... Its the fastest way to end a fight... As soon as you did your technique there are 2 guys on the floor

100% of all fights start on your feet... Incorrect.. I've had plenty of fights break out with my partner in bed

@tripical148

4 жыл бұрын

Just be sure you remember the safe word

@griffin2599

4 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@deaconclarke9408

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@dominicrossitto5890

3 жыл бұрын

HAAAAAAA! But THAT'S a different type of grappling.

@joshuatree9575

3 жыл бұрын

Lol right on!😂

The longer you train, the more you will realise that it's about developing your own game.

@springbloom5940

5 жыл бұрын

@Falk M Bingo

@danylcooper2143

5 жыл бұрын

Judo is fantastic for hand to hand scenarios! I can vouch for it!

@finding_aether

4 жыл бұрын

So true. Body shape, lenght of limbs etc matter alot surely!

@blakehiggan5960

3 жыл бұрын

Wise words

@ashsnape1937

3 жыл бұрын

Yep.... Guess Bruce Lee was right all along... 👍

don't go to the ground if you don't want your opponent's buddies to stomp on your face. It's still important to have those ground skills though

@justinwu737

5 жыл бұрын

That’s the stupid thing about some BJJ people. As a BJJ practitioner, I would never lie on the ground and welcome people with my chalice lol. I would instead try striking and use BJJ if they insist to go to the ground. I would also never directly go into a Judo slam unless I know the timing as I could get punched or kneed it elbowed or even kicked in the face.

@danylcooper2143

5 жыл бұрын

I obtained a 3rd kyu in judo maybe, 10 yrs ago? I took up judo because under common law, we would still be charged for hitting a mugger in self defense. I have used Judo, and to prove it, I still have the police incident report, issuing that I acted under ordinance pertaining to use of force. Because I have used Judo, I’ve proof of the consequences of my reactions, and I still have injuries from the art, I’d say that BJJ is safer to train in. Train in what you want to train in. Really who cares if one is better than the other. I don’t. When you train, implement strikes into gripping. As you grab, strike with your palm on impact. If your attempting a scarf hold throw, strike with your forearm upon entry. You can head butt, shoulder butt, elbow and hand strike, whilst performing throws. Everything can be used in a fight. Maintain 6ft between you and whoever is in front of you, and when they move, you cause as much impact from within 5ft as possible.

@galacticzrx1788

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly which why even striking arts are important as well

@danylcooper2143

5 жыл бұрын

Galactic Zrx1: On the contrary, there are strikes in Judo. Atemiwaza. Judo is factually effective, if you realize that out of 118 individual techniques, less than fifteen techniques are street effective! That’s a lot to think about it.

@inawarminister

5 жыл бұрын

@@danylcooper2143 which techniques, in your experience?

As someone who loves and practices martial arts (Judo being my favorite to practice and watch) I remember seeing a bumper sticker that one of my Instructors had on his car that I will always find hilarious. It was a picture of a Judoka in the middle of throwing an opponent and the words on it said, "You lift weights? That's cute. I lift people." That always cracks me up lol

@quasar4601

5 жыл бұрын

Judo seems to attract grappling killers while BJJ has a mix of Nerds, Hobbyist and killers

@loneronin6813

5 жыл бұрын

@@quasar4601 The way I see it, as long as it makes someone happy to train any martial art, then the style doesn't matter. If someone is willing to broaden their horizons, they deserve respect, even if they train but don't compete. I never competed in a tournament due to chronic pain, back pain specifically, so I'm not able to practice how I used to. I've gotten to the point where I focus almost entirely on my grappling (Which I take from different sources along with my most well-practiced throws from Judo and some Combat Hapkido.) because the back pain has limited my ability to strike. (Hard to believe I only just turned 26 isn't it? lol) I just realized that my original comment probably made me sound like an elitist, which I can honestly say that I'm not. I love Judo, but I have equal respect for all martial arts and their purposes/value. Anyway, sorry for the ramble, and thanks for responding to my comment :) I hope you are doing well.

@quasar4601

5 жыл бұрын

@@loneronin6813 Wow. you should not be in pain at only 26 !!!! I assume this was caused from the throwing in Judo

@loneronin6813

5 жыл бұрын

@@quasar4601 That was probably the true beginning of the problem, but I think the final nail in the coffin was doing too many high kicks when I was also training in Taekwondo. I was in the middle of a sparring match against a fellow student who was taller than me. (I'm 6ft. 3in. tall and he was a couple inches taller.) I caught him in the face with a front kick, but my back then decided to make that kick my last head-level kick I would be throwing lol Anyway, I really appreciate you taking the time to converse with me and for your concern :D I hope all things are going your way :)

@quasar4601

5 жыл бұрын

@@loneronin6813 , Do you think your back will heal if you take off 6 months !!! This is a very serious problem because it will only get worse with age. Yes the high kicks would tremendous torque on the back and maybe pain. I can only do low kicks because of my lower back problems

I say Judo has the edge for several reasons: it teaches you to fight in a natural posture, you develop a great takedown game and don’t go to the ground unless it’s on your terms, it emphasizes a super heavy top game and to immediately hunt for submissions, groundwork is very aggressive and urgent similar to a real fight.

@MyZ001

7 ай бұрын

As a BJJ guy, I disagree with none of this. That's why I've actually started taking judo😆

I'll tell you what My sensei often tells me: ''A punch to the face hurts. A cement curb to the face hurts even more.''

@kushkaramcheti6769

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, he's not wrong

@gentveliu5001

3 жыл бұрын

That cant be true

@Cuffsmaster

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the cement would hurt worse probably. Being knocked out either way wins you the fight. But I don't think you can count on a single blow or throw to win. To much can go wrong and it probably will in a fight. I think you need to know some striking (boxing or kickboxing in some form), clinching and throwing (boxing - wrestling - judo) and a ground game like Catch and Catch - Judo- BBJ. You need a self- defense based attack and defense. I think Krav Maga would work well against the average person you would fight on the street. it is more about getting away. However, no one style is going to totally protect you. I think MMA, although a sport and not a self-defense system, shows you that you need bits of many different styles. What is best I think depends on the person and his abilities and time he has to devote to it. I think if you piss off any black belt or equivalent in any martial art that has elements included in MMA or Krav Maga you are in a very serious problem that will hurt. Boxing - kickboxing - wrestling -BBJ- Catch Wrestling - High school wrestling - Judo - are all bad ass if the opponent does not know how to defense against that style. You need a good self defense style stand up fighting style that can include clinches and throws as well as an emergency ground game. If you are a boxer and a good one your are still in trouble if are on your back and a guy is on top of you.

@robbelliii

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget to ask the attacker to put on a gi first though 🤣

@RichyRich2607

2 жыл бұрын

And a puch in your face while trying to throw someone hurts even more

I am a straight old school karate guy. I will say this . I went to a judo school to learn take downs to supplement my arts shortcomings. Theses guys were beasts. I remember throwing a round house kick and than seeing ceiling and then mat. This began a straight hour of abuse. Judo is really amazing. In fairness I never tried jujitsu.

@jmgarza1288

3 жыл бұрын

Jiu jitsu will humble u bro.. try it sometime

@afallenpiano1445

3 жыл бұрын

No doubt!!

@erikmedina6966

2 жыл бұрын

As a Gracie Jiu-jitsu guy I feel you going to a good Judo school that does a lot, like 50% ground stuff will suffice. But I have a JJ bias and in my school we sometimes put on gloves and did strikes with takedowns and throwing and no gi and every match started on our feet. You can't always stop a wrestler from taking you down. You need to learn to strike, throw and grapple. You might actually not be able to take your opponent down. My instructor always said it's never never and not always always.

@markdaniels4178

Жыл бұрын

Jujitsu and judo is same art

@markdaniels4178

Жыл бұрын

Judo is jiu-jitsu

Judo by far! With all the falling training you are also very prepared for all kind of accidents. Having done Judo for about ten years, all my falling reflexes saved me from a couple of concussions, when I fell, slipped or got thrown of my bike. Also it is extremely effective against all kinds of school bullies or simple school fights. Being able to bring your oponent to the ground in a couple of seconds sends a great warning against other possible agressors. I remember using it twice in my school when I was young and after that nobody bothered me again.

@jeffs3119

11 ай бұрын

Yeah there’s a weird thing about successfully throwing people that others seem to fear. Pretty close to a knockout.

@Felipe.8586

10 ай бұрын

Do you know BJJ??? Judo is better because it won the all the UFC in the beginning when it was martial art VS martial art right??? Hahaha BJJ won almost ALL the fights in the beginning of the MmA history man.

@edouardlorge4059

8 ай бұрын

@@Felipe.8586 the subject is about self-defense. one could argue bjj is just judo, just that people trained newaza. in a self-defence situation, you don't want to be in the ground: what if there is more than one guys, what if there is a knife? You want to run not be stuck on the ground. Have a nice day

@LibertarianGalt

7 ай бұрын

​@@Felipe.8586MMA is a controlled enviromment. Real world fights are not. Bjj is great but i'd say slamming someone head first into the solid floor is a fight ending move.

@SINdaBlock411

6 ай бұрын

@@Felipe.8586 bjj was a hoax moron

as a BB in judo and BJJ, i always recommend kids to start in judo. It is more difficult to learn to throw your opponent than learning to submit individual. It also develops a base where your center of gravity is unmovable regardless of your height and weight. It also develops a fundamental basis for newaza (ground game) equivalent to a blue belt once you reach BB in judo. when you're an old man like myself, you won't have the energy to develop judo skills to your optimal. Old judokas continue to practice with newaza.

@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom

2 жыл бұрын

Agree with this one hundred percent. Judo's focus on pinning and top-pressure also really orients you around the basic positions in Jiu-Jitsu and makes you think about them more offensively. I tried Judo after training in Jiu-Jitsu for awhile and I was in the best shape of my life at the time. Judo turned my body to mush.

@JoseAlvarez-dl3hm

11 ай бұрын

@@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom really? is judo that hard on the body? harder than bjj? I train bjj and I am thinking of including soke judo lessons also in a regular basis. I dont know if my body can keep up with both though.

@LibertarianGalt

7 ай бұрын

Judo seems to be the one everyone recommends first so I'll do that with Muay thai training. Thanks.

A perfectly well executed judo throw on concrete is enough to end a fight.

after almost 40 years training in Judo, and using it for 30yrs in nite club security. Take my word for it, you never want to go to ground. Judo never left me wanting in any situation.

@Rob-qr2kn

4 жыл бұрын

aidanjudo007, I like that as I wouldn't want to go to the ground EVER. Rather defeat them before it gets that far. Ground is LAST resort !

@carlosandres1835

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@covertprepper5957

3 жыл бұрын

I have come across more than one experienced bouncer who swears by Judo

@victorsrur134

2 жыл бұрын

which throws and techniques were move efficient to use in this scenario?

@robbelliii

2 жыл бұрын

Must be one of those clubs where everyone is required to wear a gi jacket, huh?. 🤔. What is Judos answer for a guy with a T shirt or no shirt? Whole different ball game.

I am a brown belt in judo and a blue belt in bjj. In my opinion there is no contest, judo is far superior FOR STREET SELF DEFENSE to bjj. Like you said, it starts standing, and you want to remain standing. If the opponent has little or no skills (and they usually don't) then judo is way more suitable to end the fight quickly and decisively in your favor.

GREAT point about Self - Defense BJJ vs. Sport BJJ! Absolutely on point! Mario Sperry and Royce Gracie have been two of the main voices regarding this.

Oh so you already made a follow up vid! This is awesome, man! This is exactly what I was thinking!

The real complete Judo has all the BJJ techniques on it.

@royburge3611

5 жыл бұрын

vince arizala I agree %100

@DwellingTheAbyss

4 жыл бұрын

Kudoka judo

@romanchumachenko6176

4 жыл бұрын

Lol no, I do both and there is a huge difference.

@naderlakpour

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder why no one mentions seconds before getting onto the ground?! if it is defense, on concrete to any road surface, game is over of anyone against a Judo guy. Surly BJJ is not what Samurais did in the battle fields in fight, DOES IT LOOK LIKE IT HAD BEEN SO?!!! use your brain.

@juyama7489

4 жыл бұрын

Roman Chumachenko I think he meant the original judo, like kosen judo, not the sports judo which is basically all the judo all over the world now. BJJ was a brazilian child of this kosen judo. This judo is difficult to find today because of the focus on making it a sport. BJJ basically took all their things from kosen judo and made the entries fit the dynamic of BJJ more, but essentially all the moves are from kosen judo.

Judo is devastating in it self. Mix Judo with Muay Thai or Arnis empty hand is a great mix.

@arunj.gnanarathinam1412

2 жыл бұрын

Even taekwondo will be a great complement to judo.

@Maharaaja.

21 күн бұрын

Same to BJJ, add any striking&kicking system to BJJ and it be good self defense.

As someone that has trained primarily BJJ and trained for a short time in judo I would say you are 100% correct. I also noticed the energy difference with judo where they move fast with devastating intention.

Hey man great video. I just watched your what's the best marshal art video. Keep the great content coming

Great video, thanks for sharing!

I've done judo for 6 years and bjj for 2 years. It seems to me like in reality judo players suck on the ground and bjj players suck standing up, even though in theory both sports focus on both things.

@brianj5770

3 жыл бұрын

Accurate statement. Most people won’t understand this because they have already picked a favorite but likely have experience in one art and not both. Both are good for self defense but it depends on the situation at hand.

@thedauntlessone.7335

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianj5770 Yes it’s true that both are proficient in their own ways but in a street fight the last place you wanna go to is the ground. You’ll get smashed and you can’t run away. Judo > BJJ.

@brianj5770

2 жыл бұрын

The Dauntless One. It’s a possibility but not necessarily true. I actually had to use BJJ in a street fight once and I was a brand new blue belt. I didn’t get “smashed” or needed to run away. I also used BJJ working in Juvenile detention for 2 years and never got smashed. Regardless of what martial art one knows, you have to be aware of your surroundings and pick the appropriate techniques for the situation to stay safe as possible. Judo is not better than BJJ nor is BJJ better than Judo for self defense. It’s situationally dependent. You also need to consider that both of these arts are related and their fore share techniques.

@mrmachine5632

2 жыл бұрын

For 90% of street encounters judo beats bjjs tools every day.

@domthe7872

2 жыл бұрын

This is the most factual thing I’ve seen so far on this topic it’s very rare to find a high level standing game BJJ guy and very rare to find a high level ground game Judoka

For me Judo is the best for self defense.Great video👍👍👍👌👌👌

@justinwu737

5 жыл бұрын

A combination of karate and Judo would be the best.

@justinwu737

5 жыл бұрын

It's my way or the Highway 1968 agreed. BJJ and Judo would be OP. It would be even more if the practitioner knew how to strike as well. I just said karate and Judo because they both have a Japanese background.

@justinwu737

5 жыл бұрын

It's my way or the Highway 1968 I train in BJJ right now. Absolutely love it.

@justinwu737

5 жыл бұрын

It's my way or the Highway 1968 overpowered

@m5a1stuart83

5 жыл бұрын

@@justinwu737 Thats Daido Juku bro... Yong Mo Do is Judo and Tae Kwon Do... Good stuff. BJJ is good when all other resorts failing.

this was a really, really good video thanks for making it

Great breakdown of both arts. Thank you!

90% of the people asking this question only train couch surfing.

If you learn judo, you will learn jiu jitsu; however, if you learn jiu jitsu, you will not learn judo.

Very well said in the breakdown, sir.

Thanks for your video. Good insight,

judo is better in street fight along with boxing

@bbanzthekid8852

5 жыл бұрын

Breh i do boxing and jiu jitsu

@Serventofallahswt99

5 жыл бұрын

@@bbanzthekid8852 i do muay thai and brazillian ju jitsu

@vernitrails9221

4 жыл бұрын

I know nothing

@thefullenergychannel2879

4 жыл бұрын

you need legs on the streets to keep dangerous armed people at a distance check out my vids

@Projectdarksource

4 жыл бұрын

Judo with some kind of kickboxing

I trained in various striking arts since I was 13 and I'm 50 now. The last TMA I took for 7 years was Wado which introduced JJ and Judo elements the higher up I got in belt rank. I soon discovered that grappling and throws were more interesting to me which is why I'm moving either to JJ (a local very highly regarded school teaches stand up JJJ and ground game BJJ) or else Kodokan Judo. Still haven't decided so I probably will take some classes at both to see which one gels with me. Either way, as a big advocate of TMA, I acknolwedge almost ALL schools don't develop techniques that work well against a non compliant adversary which is kind of important with respect to practical application of these waza.

That was a very intelligent video on the subject!👍

Dang, this is the best explanation of the difference between Judo & BJJ. Well done

@TheSchoolOfSelfDefense

3 жыл бұрын

Wow thank you so much.

I vote for judo its freaking awesome and nobody's getting back up after being thrown on concrete

@mysty0

5 жыл бұрын

Sports Judo is a joke and not worth learning

@mysty0

4 жыл бұрын

@Dodo Ronaldo until you try that shit on a wrestler and it will be your face eating the pavement. Stick to beating up untrained kids at school if you want to feel tough, the open world will fuck you up

@BramKaasMan

4 жыл бұрын

I werd trowed over my Friend he's shoulder in judo lessons but i forgot to slam my hands on the tatami °^° IT was like my stomache exploded :/

@BramKaasMan

4 жыл бұрын

@@mysty0 IT is worth

@BramKaasMan

4 жыл бұрын

I ment i was trowed"

Old school judo didn't have weight classes either. It was only when it was internationalized that weight classes came into being. Other than that, I agree with most of what you're saying.

@JukidoAcademy

5 жыл бұрын

bigWOWO is absolutely right on with his comment. I thought the video was a very solid, albeit low resolution, articulation of the merits of Sport Judo and BJJ. However, as you rightly point out - classical Kodokan Judo (pre WW2) was a very complete system of self-defense in addition to its other goals. The martial arts of "Ju" are based on the entire premise of no size limits, the smaller overcoming the larger through proper technique and use of energy. Additionally, it is very clear in the reading of all of Kano's old writings (Mind Over Muslce is on Amazon) that he strongly advocates the practice of atemi (striking). He makes it clear that randori (free training / sparring) is always done in a manner that is mindful of posture and positioning with respect to potential incoming strikes (even if not included in practice). Kano clearly states that to not do so takes Judo away from combat effectiveness and makes it simply a game. Good video and comment. Thanks!

@springbloom5940

5 жыл бұрын

bigWOWO 'Oldschool' judo will mess you up. Joint dislocations and broken bones are a very real and likely outcome of a lot of judo techniques, in practical application.

Excellent video!!

Great job!!! Explaining

Great topic! I would just argue that in a street fight or self defense situation you would normally not want to be on the ground, and, although you want to know what to do in the case you are taken to the ground (especially if there is more than one aggressor), this almost willingness to be on the ground is a great disadvantage of BJJ in terms of self defense. I believe it is important to be able to deal with striking, but I think a Judo practitioner would have a strong enough base to take a punch or two and, since these self defense "street fights" usually end up with people grappling, I tend to see Judo as a more effective system for self defense.

Agreed 100%. I have a black belt in judo and purple belt in BJJ. They synergize together. But in a street fight points BJJ will not be optional.

@xamtrickster9606

4 жыл бұрын

screw boxing do muay tai

@cbv7207

4 жыл бұрын

@@RokoKaran Can you just shut the fuck up?Your English is broken and what your saying makes no sense

@danielcalvi500

4 жыл бұрын

@@cbv7207 oh here you go we have a disgusting pimp here...is that ll you have to say: about his broken English and then miss respect? is that all you have to say?? maybe you shouldn't be here at all. SOCIAL media doesn't seem made for you...you just seem anti social completely.

@danielcalvi500

4 жыл бұрын

@@cbv7207 maybe the guy speaks mandarin which you could never learn in a life time and maybe he speaks 3 other languages but you, only see his level in English to put him down...you seem to be a great moron. English is a poor language with little rules and poor grammar rules so no real pride in knowing English really.

@cbv7207

4 жыл бұрын

@@danielcalvi500 hahhahahah you are even worse then him.I was calling him out because he was talking crap about all of these martial arts and he would reply with that on every single comment the worst part is it made no sense because his English is broken. I couldn't be bothered to precisely point out what i was calling him out for and now i have you trying to act like a psychologist

This was super interesting thanks

they're both fantastic.

Helio Gracie's traditional jiu jitsu self defense consists of getting your brothers to jump some dude in an allyway with a metal bat

@foxybrown2

5 жыл бұрын

I heard about that. Man that is some bad reputation to carry around.

@jimmyalderson1639

5 жыл бұрын

foxybrown2 well he doesn't carry it around because he made a huge effort to cover that, and all his other disgraces up, and paint himself as this frail old man who invented all these techniques and improved all these others because judo people just used strength. Because Jigoro Kano, Japanese man at 5"4 or whatever his height was, lifting buff old westerns was just using brute strength. I remember watching a video fo Jron Gracie explain how Helio 'improved' the cross choke. He said 'judo guys used to just use strength ad flail their arms out wide' and if you don't properly understsnd then you might watcha. Judo video and see them do that, but that's a different choke. In jiu jitsu people only do the reverse cross vhoke, not many do the half cross choke, and in the half cross choke you do flail your arms out sometimes depending on what kind of variation you're doing. But they don't tell you any of that. They dln't tell you how Helio ran away from Kimura and told everybody he was cambodian so he wouldn't fight him. Instead we all hear the epic story of frail old Helio who 'CHALLENGED' the 'greatest jujutsuka ever' just to test his skill and he had 'no intention of winning', we don't hear about the coward who tried to lick on Kimura's subordinates who were lowered ranked. We don't hear the story of how Helio got thrown around the mats lots in his fight with Kato, and we definitely don't hear about how Kato was actually beating Helio on the ground too and Helio just lucked out on a cross choke (which had they been on normal judo mats helio wouldn't have had the energy to do, and if done oj the streets he'd be dead) and how Kimura had to stop the fight before helio seriously damaged Kato's brain with e. We hear the story of how helio survived and defeated 'a judoka who is believed to be more skilled than Kimura' and how it was helio who stopped the fight realising kato was unconscious. We hear the story of the brazilians who took everyone on, not the story of the brazilians who got thrown around by the japanese so they decided instead of practicing their standup to instead just fight on WWE style canvas; nor the story of the brazilians who got leg locked by the ruassians and instead of deciding not to just sit on their arse and put their feet up, to just ban leg locks. We hear about the guys who defeated everyone who came their way; not of the guys who hand picked their opponents had had special rules. We hear about the guys who defeated the top wrestlers; not the guys who tried to avoid them but when unable to run decided to dictste what clothing each competitor could wear. There are lots more stories that we donmt hear about because BJj black belts learned their histlry from these people, and these people have now forgotten the real histlry themselves, and people like Joe Rogan don't know any of this stuff cos he's busy smoking dope trying to decide whether or not piss is stored in the balls and if the moon landing really happened. And it's even more amazing when you consider that a lot of these people cross train, and Rogan knows Judo Gene Labell personally, and yet doesn't see through the gracie lie that 'we invented everything' 'wait but this was in judo' 'oh no it was actually in old jujutsu, but we made it better' 'how' 'we just did, deal with it or we'll smash your brains out with a rod'

@Brigidare

5 жыл бұрын

Fadda

@daveyponderosa9549

5 жыл бұрын

jimmy alderson Brilliant post buddy. Preach!!

@beezelsub

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds effective 😵

And BTW, in 40 years of Judo, my favorite thing to do was ground work, had a large number of people be turned off because of the ground work. Many years ago there was a tournament in Japan to decide what the Police and military would be trained in. Judo and Boxing were chosen, and are still used today. Another point is that Judo is not classified as a Martial Art, the supreme court of the US ruled this way. Judo is a sport. and is the 2nd most sport practiced in the world.

@myhandlehasbeenmishandled

10 ай бұрын

The US Supreme Court actually discussed Judo?

I like your style.

Very thoughtful discussion. In my experience, it’s not either/or, it’s “and,” i.e. we should learn judo and BJJ (and karate, and boxing, and...etc.). IMHO, everyone should learn judo basics if, for no other reason, you learn how to fall safely, which is the best life skill I ever learned...never, ever got hurt in any fall (so far in 63 yrs!), whether flying off my motocross bike, skating, or just slipping on a snow-covered sidewalk. No head smacks, no arms broken, no tailbone fractures...falling is never scary, never painful because I’m not afraid to fall...and I know how automatically (muscle memory). Your point about judo throws’ force is spot on. A strong O-Soto-Gari would leave any opponent with a fractured skull and cracked sternum...there wouldn’t be any “ground game” to play. Plus, as you noted, judo grappling includes very strong choke/joint lock techniques, so no problem finishing on the ground. Your point about BJJ striking is valid...judo has no striking (hence my reco to study at least two disciplines). The only thing I wish you had touched on was the overall pacifist, peace-first philosophy of any martial art. The great instructors (and you seem in that class) always preach non-violence, to use your training only as a last resort, to talk/walk/run away first if you can, because fighting is really not smart and almost always unnecessary. Be prepared to defend, yes - but only if given no other option. Never, ever initiate an attack, never seek confrontation, never abuse your skills. In high school, I was the US Jr. Olympics silver medalist in the heavyweight division. No one ever even pretended they wanted to challenge me, but not because I was “too tough” (there’s always someone tougher!), but rather because I was humble, and kind, and never hurt anyone. I think the martial arts imbues students with a strong sense of confidence (based on abilities), which in turn produces good people, with a solid moral compass, and an inherent belief in fairness that precludes any desire to show off or otherwise “prove” how well one can fight. So while it’s interesting to debate which art is “better,” I think they are all excellent and encourage everyone to learn one. Or two😊

@TheSchoolOfSelfDefense

3 жыл бұрын

Love it!

"In Judo you don't want to go to the ground" WTH? Real authentic Judo is 50% stand up, 50% groundwork. That's it, that's all there is to it.

@forcealpine87

4 жыл бұрын

80/20 Standing to grapple has always been my interpretation of Judo. Whereas BJJ is 80% grappling, 20% standing

@arap8217

4 жыл бұрын

@@forcealpine87 If that's your interpretation, you're more than welcome to it. What I was saying is the way it's originally meant to be is 50/50, i.e. a complete system.

@Supermomo2007

4 жыл бұрын

@@arap8217 wrong, it was 70/30

@arap8217

4 жыл бұрын

@@Supermomo2007 No, it was 50/50 as conceived by Kano, hence I said "Real, authentic" and "originally"

@Supermomo2007

4 жыл бұрын

@@arap8217 no, it was 70/30 by kano, did you not read is biography?

You know sports judo,not traditional judo. Your analysis is flawed if you go on this premise. Judo has kicks and punches. Check our Katas. There are no weight classes in traditional judo. I appreciate your efforts though. Im 4th Dan judoka

@martiallife4136

4 жыл бұрын

The real issue is that judo is mainly a sport and in nearly all schools you must compete to move up in rank. Even if you have been at a club for 8 years and been practicing, doing randori, it doesn't matter. You can be at black belt level it won't be recognized, your skill, your hard work won't be recognized. It's a shame!

@martiallife4136

4 жыл бұрын

@Sam You can fight yes but do have to compete? There are plenty of black belt competitors who have questionable skill. Shia should not be the deciding factor in rank promotion. Shia should be a small part of judo, instead it's the only thing most clubs focus on.

@ritzkola2302

4 жыл бұрын

Martial Life That’s What maintains the high level of skill in judo. No different than competition being what maintains the high level of skill in Boxing. It’s a good thing.

@johnnyboy1586

3 жыл бұрын

Boxing and judo combo

@MrBOB39

3 жыл бұрын

@Sam exactly.. I started doing Judo 50 years ago.. Tradition Judo is Not the same as the watered down to keep it safe Judo compitions

Well Explaint !

I found out early in life that when drunk, Judo does not work, as I could not stand up! Great explanation mate. Not sure in a pavement fight I would want to throw someone hard down on the ground. Seems like the person may break their back. Mats are cool!

I agree with everything you said. one factor in favour of bjj is they attack legs though, not to say Judo doesn't have leg holds but Judo comps don't allow it.

@psychedashell

5 жыл бұрын

BL0HARD Most BJJ guys don't do it that well either, that's why you get the guys who shuffle towards you like a dog with worms. If you're confident you can defend a kick to the face or torso or confident that your opponent can't kick worth a damn anyway there are some wonderful leg submissions that they're basically begging for, because they've never seen them before.

@OkurkaBinLadin

4 жыл бұрын

You can go for leg takedown in BJJ, but vast majority of its practicioners are bad at it ;) way worse, than your average judoka at sprawling...

From what I've heard about "reality based" self-defense, using a throw/takedown on hard concrete is WAY more affective then going for a Choke. It teaches your "aggressor" that staying and fighting means pain. Also, when you upset someone's inner ear with a good throw/takedown, that will give you enough time to run away.

@apexredpanda6271

Жыл бұрын

another thing people forget about judo. You don’t have to throw someone to damage them. Run them into a car or table / pull their head into a wall when you sweep their leg / move them side to side so their friends can’t get a good punch in etc. you can set up throws this way. People are way less likely to think about defence when they just had their ribs or head hit something heavy. And adding strikes when in a good position comes easy once you got grappling.

Very fair analysis IMO. I train 'non' IJF judo (leg grabs legal, emphasis on 50/50 Tachi waza/Newaza.....pretty rad), But from a self defence perspective I'd love to see more Atemi waza thrown in the mix earlier on.

@mariotanti4818

3 жыл бұрын

Judo have leg locks!!??. Noo my friend your wrong!

@kiang8269

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariotanti4818 Hi Mario, I hope you're well? My comment referred to leg grabs such as double leg, single leg, firemans carry and many more as apposed to leg locks. The reason for highlighting this is that in 2011 the IJF banned leg grabs from competition as it was believed that more emphasis was being placed on easy 'takedowns' vs the big beautiful Ippon worthy throws. Additionally leg grabs were being used defensively after a weak score to technically 'win' the match but with little real action. This lead to some clubs not practicing these super effective techniques as they wouldn't be used in competition. However, as you mention Leg LOCKS etc. they were originally a part of Judo pre olympics as referenced in Mifune's book 'The Canon of Judo' ironwolf008.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/canon-of-judo-by-k-mifune.pdf and well as books by early practitioners such as Mikinosuki Kawaishi, Moshe Feldenkrais. So you are right to say it is currently not seen in modern competion Judo which is a shame, but is and should still be a part of Judo. Obviously arts such as Catch, BJJ, Sambo etc who embraced and developed leg locks have a deeper understanding of their application these days. Sorry its Sunday morning and I'm bored! :)

Very good summary! Thank you for your angle on this.

I really like your anaylsis. Thank you. When Kano came up with Judo, he took what he deemed to be the best of all of the jutsu combat arts being practiced in Japan, and synthesized them into Judo. That is the Judo which the Gracie's learned from Maeda, and which they adapted. The original Judo has strikes (atemi), which are today preserved in the Katas. And the jujutsu locks and grappling self-defence moves (which Kano modified because he deemed them to be too dangerous), are also preserved in the Kata.

@biglj822009

2 жыл бұрын

Kano really did not do too much modification in judo when he started his own art since he mastered the Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and other arts as well before he started judo. Because he will tell you that Judo is really not really gentle art because you dealing with getting slam to the ground and you dealing with strangles and choke holds and arm bars which is not a gentle at all when these techniques is performed on you in dojos and practices and get you prepare for certain situations. What it the means is to be gentle is that the art is made for everybody from youth all the way to the old can also practice judo since at that time of water Japan no child or really elder person was not able to fight in a war because they was too young or too old to fight and he also came up with techniques for either older person who's beyond years to use and they can pick up person up and slamming the ground without using too much strength which is the gentle Way not only that but know how to fall. He never changed the traditional way of jiu-jitsu because that was the most respect of art there was before there was a judo and the only reason why he came up with Judo because after the water Japan was over the government didn't need no need to practice judicial since it deals with weaponry and use ropes to tied up people or prisoners and all the other stuff. So years later people notice that the Japanese jiu-jitsu was dying that people was not practicing no more because of that so he came up another way to keep the jitsu alive as a art bycreated a art called judo. When he created Judo everybody in Japan was coming to his school because of his training and it was still getting the same benefits as what they was practicing of Japanese jiu jitsu and other grappling art at that time and still able to keep the traditions of that are alive when he formed judo. Judo was not created at that time to be a sport but it was created to be another form of self-defense martial arts that people all ages can use in a regular routine and they daily lives where without have to use sword and daggers and ropes since it wasn't no more war in Japan at that time. And when he went to Brazil at that time he talked to Brazilians judo and one of those Brazilians were the first generation of the Gracie family to learn the Japanese way of judo. When the first Gracie Master the art all he did is took up some of the things and he had a lot of ground fighting to it but took out a lot of throws with your supporting them made the art itself more effective because judo itself was dealing with a lot of throws I mean devastating throws that you slam somebody in the ground it's going to end the fight for them not good. Hey don't give me wrong I love Brazil because it teach you how to fight in the ground just in case if you ever have to fight somebody bigger than you they take you in the ground you know how to get out the situation but a downfall to positive is that they do not train you to fight multiple opponents like judo does because you must understand that jiu-jitsu before there was a judo was designed to fight multiple attacks and know how to fight standing up and a ground in which judo came in later and kept the Japanese jiu jitsu traditional alive true judo. Is some judo schools even kept wrist locks as a curricular for shut the fence purpose with the throws and ground fighting.

Both Martial arts are great. I respect both disciplines. I personally train BJJ and yes most classes we start our live sparring already on the ground. However, I also attend the No-Gi class and we start standing up and we really work our take downs. So, depending on what your BJJ gym has to offer, you can definitely get some intense live sparing in. I know I do. 😁 Anyway good job to anyone who practices either martial art.

I like both

Me and my older brother was rough housing on the tile and then he gave me the hip toss. I can tell you that I was laying on the ground for quite awhile lol

Muay Thai for striking, throws and sweeps, Judo for transition from the clinch, BJJ for ground and pound plus chokes and dislocations. Bonus would be Wing Chun for hand trapping + striking extra bonus would Krav Maga and Escrima for weapons fighting. Starting off as a kid in Karate for a base of mental discipline to study all the other martial arts.

@mrmachine5632

2 жыл бұрын

You clearly have never trained.

@bootyeater1961

Жыл бұрын

@@mrmachine5632 lmao ikr

In my opinon, if you want to start a Martial Art (especially with kids): Start with Judo... than go into BJJ or Striking (boxing/muaythai)... Aikijutjitsu or Self-defense after. You wanna learn this body weight and wrestling techniques who can be street efficient and sport. Than learn Striking or improve your ground game... to finish with the self-defense material (leverage and keylock). For a Kid, learning Judo first will put time on his side, since he will grow up with it.... if you are an adult.. Judo will take longer but will put you really in shape.. for adults if you want ''faster results'' boxing might be a good start

@combatesdeboxeo

5 жыл бұрын

I did boxing and kick boxing in the past and now i train judo and japanese jiu jitsu and it is way better and more effective in a real fight. A good judoka and jiu jitsu fighter will take the boxer or kick boxer to the floor and ir is all over.easy fight

@h695vgk8fnw

11 ай бұрын

​@@combatesdeboxeowhat if you get some good punches or knocked out before you grab em?

Learn both 💜

Muay Thai, Judo and Filipino Martial Arts are my top 3 for self defense!

@TheSchoolOfSelfDefense

3 жыл бұрын

Not a bad combo for sure.

The harsh truth is that the best approach to "self defense" or a real world encounter is to be experienced in a variety of martial arts. No one form will ever prepare you for the street so work on your boxing, kicking, throws and ground game, you'll need them all.

@soundtreks

5 жыл бұрын

Yup. That's the truth. The more tools you have at your disposal, the more you can adapt to the circumstances.

@evanmcclure67

5 жыл бұрын

@@soundtreks karate, kickboxing and judo is my shit

@khanhbuivan5536

4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget your knee and your ebow-deadly muay thai's weapons

@yardape99

4 жыл бұрын

The best self defense is sprinting.

@romanchumachenko6176

4 жыл бұрын

@@yardape99 that is some solid truth.

Not 100% fights start standing up. There are attacks in cars, for instance, where the fight starts seated.

@jasonvoorhees8899

2 жыл бұрын

Nice , but even then. Is BJJ advantageous in that Situation or Judo ?

@mistermindahenziandalasnus3754

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonvoorhees8899 I would say, MMA. Study striking and grappling from all that works in a force on force scenario. Surely in there BJJ, Judo, Wrestling, Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai etc will contribute much. Study also the human response to fear from people like Gavin DeBecker and such. Why limit yourself to just two arts?

Well done

My take is whichever you train in , if you want to apply it to self defense focus on 3 main things. 1) Avoid going to the ground if at all possible 2) If you fail at #1 get back up as soon as possible 3) Learn how to slam people onto the ground or into something hard . Untrained people don't know how to fall and there's no mats out in the real world. So lot of agreement from my end . I like to remind my students that to me , a "fight" is mutually agreed upon and both people are trying to get some sort of win. But self defense is not and the only goal is to survive and go home. You add in elements like knives or other assailants kicking you in the head or smashing you with a brick , the ground becomes a whole different situation. I think both have a lot to offer towards that as they come from the same roots .

You realize that Jiu Jitsu was built off of Judo right? The Gracies started Jiu Jitsu after being taught Judo and tweaked it.

@adolfchangchrist7975

2 жыл бұрын

I would say it was tweaked both for sport and for practicality. A lot of people seem to think that BJJ is just the sports version of Judo. It's not. It's refined itself down to the techniques which are the most effective and easy to master. It's true that some techniques are excluded from competitions but that's true of every martial art that has a sparing element.

A lot of judoka can't hang on the ground against your average BJJ blue belt, with some exceptions. But BJJ dudes can't always hang on the feet. It's best to be able to hold your own in both situations tbh. But people who say judo has better groundwork are kidding themselves. The same as BJJ dudes who underestimate judo throws.

@johnsnider2956

5 жыл бұрын

@MegaSkilla I practice and love both arts, but there is a world of of difference between a black belt in 2000 and right now. The best judo player in the world has fuck all for Marcelo Garcia on the ground and that's a fact.

@mongolchiuud8931

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnsnider2956 Kosen Judo guys like Kikuta Sanae has won the ADCC championships before dude even tapped out Saulo Reibio and his brother. Judo has two sub styles and they beat BJJ 50% of the time now. Judo's ground game is underrated. kzread.info/dash/bejne/foaWzainfs-5hbA.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnt6yZJ7iZvMocY.html kzread.infovideos?view=0&sort=da&flow=grid kzread.infovideos kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqucuriklbbQXZM.html cheers

@evanmcclure67

5 жыл бұрын

Kodokan Judo has ground work and plenty of it

@REMY45HST

4 жыл бұрын

LOL I'm a Judoka but any Judo guy who says that is DELUDED. BJJ like you said Blue Belt has was more ground work than even a black belt. I laugh at people that say Judo is superior, I'm like don't you understand BJJ is ALL GROUND FIGHTING??? DON"T YOU THINK THEY PROBABLY MASTERED THE GROUD. I want to take some eventually to go with my Judo. I have a background in Boxing and Kenpo/Karate both done for 3yrs before the JUDO, which has been about a year....

@societybelike

4 жыл бұрын

@@mongolchiuud8931 you've named 1 dude who won in the adcc every time, not 50% of the time, good try tho

Absolutely agree.

Your video was KZread Suggested and I heard Indianapolis and said OH SHIT! I live in Greenwood!

@TheSchoolOfSelfDefense

4 жыл бұрын

Come train with us

Been practicing Judo for 26 years. Wrestler, Judoka, Kali/Escrima.......Never done BJJ....never needed to.

The old jiu-jitsu the Gracie jiu-jitsu had judo in it along with strikes and kicks and elbows and knees along with ground fighting the sport jiu-jitsu toke the judo out of jiu-jitsu along with the strikes and the street focus that the Gracies were experts in street fighting the old jiu-jitsu was basically the 1st mma they covered strand up ., Clinch , and ground fighting. .. Love judo but old Gracie Jiu-jitsu was made for fighting in the streets.

Judo plus boxing best self defense combo!

Good points in the video! Original Kodokan Judo as "invented" by Kano also has kicks and punches (and was a form of Japanese Jiu Jitsu), similar to old BJJ. They were probably much more similar back in the days when Helio originally learned it. Judo lost a lot of its effective techniques when it became an Olympic sport. In a 1on1 match, BJJ wins over Judo if it goes to the ground, but in self-defense, you should consider the "floor as lava" with you having protective shoes. Going to the floor is the worst scenario as you never know whether the attacker has some friends around who will kick your head while you're on the ground.

@Supermomo2007

3 жыл бұрын

wins over judo??? not always.

@HunGerMovies

Жыл бұрын

Judo has tons of ground fight techniques, including choking and stuffs. That is a different story if you cannot learn them or do not know how and when to use them.

both martial arts stem from the same root: Japanese Jiu jutsu. Japanese practitioners took the best techniques and created Judo. Brazilians learnt Judo, took the best techniques and created BJJ. so if you are conflicted, just try the old school jiu jutsu lol.

@MrBOB39

3 жыл бұрын

Not Fully right.. Though Judo was Born out of Japanese JJ.. Judo was refined through science.. Eliminating ways of less effeintcy.. By studying what the human body can do Best.. Bjj was born of judo.. another study in science.. However greater effecientcy to the ground game.. On the Ground Older more Traditional Judo can take original japenese JJ But can also take or stalemate BJJ on the ground.. Sport judo would lose to japanese JJ and on the ground would lose to BJJ On fights against multiple people Original Tradional Judo Wins..then japanese jj .and last is BJJ My concern is how or what works Best on the Street.. Not in the ring or on the matts

@erikmedina6966

2 жыл бұрын

True, I feel GJJ is better for self defense than Judo since it was created to be self defense and that family actually kept putting out challanges to test thier art. Refining the style with real blood and science Judo is a best as well though and since they both have all the same techniques and THEY DO. In certain situations Judo is better than old B Jiu-jitsu And yes sport BJJ is why you see BJJ black belts getting pummeled in UFC.....they will mess most people up in a real-life fight but they have insanely bad habits thst make them vulnerable sometimes even from novice wild punches.

What happen when the open guard meet Sakuraba? hilarity ensues

Being on your feet in that type of situation is key, as well you learn to manipulate standing opponents and balance very well during judo. Helps move multiple bodies around. Also a key thing to remember is after 99% of judo throws we place our opponent’s close to us on the ground so we can subdue them quickly. That said do both.

Judo is a one strike self-defense art with the concrete as its sword. Making someone land head first on the concrete gives you the time to run or stomp them out, laugh, and walk away.

Bjj is overpriced 200 month lpl judo is like 50 month here

I would honestly say that the mix between the two would be superior. Just my opinion.

Judo hands down .. now both are sports however the idea of self defense is to get it done quickly and judo is well adapt at that, plus creating distance such as throwing your attacker which of course creates distance can end the attack so you can escape.

Helio Gracie Jiujitsu was Japanese Jujitsu. Strike, disarm, takedown pin submit. They were inspired by Fusen Ryu school you can look up The Game of Jiujitsu 1906 by Yukio Tani who traveled Europe doing challenge matches against other styles.

Putin does judo That’s all you need to know

@ruslanotarov9727

4 жыл бұрын

Putin is a liar and a thief That's all you need to know

just learn both

@meandmetoo8436

5 жыл бұрын

My time has limits.

@HokiHumby

5 жыл бұрын

If you *really* learn Judo. Like, really learn it - BJJ's techniques are rather intuitive by nature since newaza is an essential part of Judo. You don't have weight classes when you train, which is when you should be experimenting against people of different sizes.

@MrBOB39

3 жыл бұрын

@@meandmetoo8436 then Simply learn Traditional original JUDO.. Not Sport Judo.. Take it from me.. On the Streets.. Judo STOPS them Dead

It depends on the bjj school. I have always been told what technique is for self defense and which ones are for tournament. We practice technique involving strikes. We do hip throws too.

Good analysis 👍 id add that striking is part of judo too, thats why bjj has it, cuz its an offshoot of judo. And that nearly no old wrestling or fighting system goes to ground, becuz of pre-gun battlefields w multiple opponents w spears/swords. Going to ground is more civilised world 1v1 fighting. Even now if u go to some bad parts, everyone packs a hidden blade, so u typically dont want to go close up.

Great analysis , but I don't think you mentioned that Judo has ground work too in case you do go to the ground, but the goal is different. Not to mention that Judo is perhaps a 1/4 the price of BJJ to practice. So the ideal situation might be to practice Judo, and with the money you save, join a kick boxing gym as well, and you will have a good self defense platform.

Kosen Judo then? Why not a best of both?

I believe that the mixing of styles is necessary for success in the streets. Once you train in several styles, you will have a better understanding of how to manipulate your opponent.

@TheSchoolOfSelfDefense

4 жыл бұрын

Agree. It is impossible to understand the universe by only studying one planet

i don't know if you have done a judo tournament but every throw goes to the ground. you want to make sure your throw makes their back hit and roll to each shoulder. so the only reason we stay up is how cool it looks and practice laziness

Judo also has atemi waza...(Striking)

@springbloom5940

5 жыл бұрын

Rarely necessary. Ashi waza are sufficient to end 99% of street engagements.

I've never practiced grappling before. So, my understanding is that Judo is better option if you don't know much striking, and BJJ is a better option when you also practice a striking martial art. What do you think about this? Of course you are not limited to learn just one of them.

@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom

2 жыл бұрын

How did you come to understand this? If someone told you that they don't know what they're talking about.

@yeicore

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom Well. Judo has a very strong standing component, so if you are not training any standing/striking Combat sport then judo would be good. But if you already have striking knowledge, then focusing on the ground with bjj would be good in that case. Anyway, I'm realy new to grappling, so I may be wrong in many ways.

Do both... They are related and most brazilians that compete in mma hold both belts. The best self defense is get your blackbelt, to get your blackbelt you will have a great understanding of applying technique. I highly recommended also doing N0-GI judo/jj

Good talk

100% agree. As a judoka, I’d say that we should spend more time learning striking and learning how to work against someone trying to punch you in the face.

@snehamoydutta182

2 жыл бұрын

But judo is kid's martial art infront of Muay Thai , MMA

@meliora99

2 жыл бұрын

@@snehamoydutta182 mma isnt a martial art

@snehamoydutta182

2 жыл бұрын

@@meliora99 ofcourse but mixture of some martial arts

@snowlily5540

2 жыл бұрын

@@snehamoydutta182 you don’t do any martial arts so your opinion is irrelevant

A judo throw on a hard surface almost always ends the fight. I've thrown someone with an osoto gari and they bashed their head on the ground and I realised I nearly killed the guy :(

@nederlander111

5 жыл бұрын

A advanced BJJ guy has alot of defences against take downs.

@celebrity6781

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah good bjj practitioner won't let you throw him like a fucking rock or something, he will defend himself and if he's good enough he will probably break your bones or choke you out, throwing decent fighters on the ground does not work if you are not really fucking big, choking and breaking their bones always work.

@OkurkaBinLadin

4 жыл бұрын

@@celebrity6781 LOL.

Bothe are Great Arts

Fun fact, Judo also has some striking in Atemi Waza group.

Look up the new Olympic rules for Judo - No touching the legs. Say goodbye to leg attacking takedowns and fireman lifts.

@psychedashell

5 жыл бұрын

ThePunisher129 I have no idea what wr is but yes. When a technique is removed from competition it ceases to get as much attention in practice, sometimes it even gets neglected entirely. Look at Kyokushin Karate, hand strikes to the head don't get used in their most popular competition so they get neglected in training because they use the same rules for sparring during training. WTF Taekwondo and Shotokan guys struggle with breaking a sustained barrage of attacks and struggle equally with people who walk through their attacks because they don't practice a continuous style in competition or in class. Boxing used to involve kicking and wrestling, they don't do that anymore. Royce Gracie spent time before getting submissions kicking the hell out of opponent's legs to prevent them lifting him and slamming his butt into the ground. Modern BJJ students don't, they don't have to, slamming gets you disqualified. Judo has strikes in its syllabus but your average Judoka can't kick above his belt without falling on his ass. Training follows competition. A better Judoka can deal with leg attacks because they face them in sparring which all too often uses the same rules as competition.

@vandamme3911

5 жыл бұрын

@@psychedashell this could easily be remedied by kyokushin guys having one sparring class a week wearing gloves and allowing punches to the head. Judo could do the same and do a few sessions that allow leg takedowns.

@psychedashell

5 жыл бұрын

Van Damme They try, it never lasts. Students chase the most prominent event.

Running beats both of them :D

@EasyFinnish

5 жыл бұрын

Andreas Salvesen thats right.

@LS-wy4bk

3 жыл бұрын

if the other guy isnt faster than you :D

@Maharaaja.

21 күн бұрын

Culture is a best defense !

You should do one on what is better for the Pocket Book

Overall sentiment I agree with. He gets that the rough and tumble of judo scrambling mimics fights well . ALhough there are several details he states that I wouldn't. Geoff Thompson was right- do Boxing + judo . By judo he means what is now old judo- 50:50 standing ground time.