Pro tip: Research your mods, purchase as many as you can, and then tune. If you buy your intake, tune, and then a couple months later get a new turbo back, tune, and then a few months later you get a top mount, tune, you had to pay for 3 tunes or more. That adds up fast. It is best to bundle all mods into one. It saves money and time.

@zorouzh

7 ай бұрын

How much do pro tunes usually cost?

@O8WRx

7 ай бұрын

@@zorouzh around $200 depending where you go.

@carbon9652

7 ай бұрын

$300-400 depending if tunning for 2 different fuels or just one fuel I'm doing E85 + 93 CT Tunning Tune via Import Image Racing@@zorouzh

@jameskocks4734

6 ай бұрын

i waited two years and did my research before i modded my 18 wrx and did all the bolt ons and the tune at a shop in a weekend. very good advice. that being said the VA's are much more expensive than the VB's are to mod. an intake alone makes just about the power mine did with much more parts on 93.

@trevorwhiteside4347

3 ай бұрын

700ish ​@@zorouzh

So happy to see this video! Was debating myself

Great video, glad to see more research and testing on this new platform

this is it right here. good content, you learn a thing or two and get to see products at work & how they perform as well as the best application for each brand.

Great video guys! What this video shows is how badass VBs are 😎

Loved this! I’m moving onto power mods after doing some aesthetic ones. Really want more acceleration and power for my daily driver 22 wrx sport tech. Was going to get ETS intake this has persuaded me to get AME

this video is worth gold!!!

I think this just proves how easy power gains are with a FA block. 400tq from a intake tune is ridiculous for those who don't know

@chrisb.banick6720

Жыл бұрын

@@christopher-gardner the rumble is still there, the rumble comes from Un equal length headers which are actually a big reason why the ej was unreliable. Unequal length headers create negative pressure in cylinder 4 which in turn causes ringland and head gasket issues. The FA20 and FA24 have equal length headers which create equal flow of games which gives you better performance and reliability. If you want the rumble on a FA block your a UELH away from it.

@renodelossantos7089

Жыл бұрын

He also has a catback on

@imnottellinudontwannaknow3188

Жыл бұрын

​@@christopher-gardnerThe rumble is definitely still there on the new WRX. I have one and it's so loud on cold starts, stock lol

@carsnanime4719

11 ай бұрын

EJ bois punching the air rn

@LuideMulumba

9 ай бұрын

Catback has little to no effect, your biggest restriction on modern cars is the cat, esp on stock hardware@@renodelossantos7089

Awesome video Foster, lots of helpful data on this. Perrin just release the turbo inlet for their intake. I am curious of that will make a difference. I will be installing the new Perrin inlet on my channel this week.

@missingin4cti0n

Жыл бұрын

Really weird haven’t seen their inlet just iet

Great video! Can you do intercoolers next!

great video! more like this

GREAT test!! Pleas can you put the Mishimoto through the same test. They are a legit contender and aesthetically their product looks great but we need to make an informed choice when buying these parts and you can help us with that!! Thanks so much for all your work on the new VB platform.

When Graham talks I listen. Always great info from you guys vids!

Could you do a similar video with all the exhaust systems that you offer? I know the differences would most likely be minimal in terms of power but it would be nice to help decide what cat back to purchase.

Great video.

Very cool video!

Thanks for this illustrative video! I have a question, if I understood well, when I want only to increase power but don't do any tunning stage, is the option the Perrin Intake? Thanks a lot for your time :D

Yasss! Nice video!

Awesome and very interesting video. Sadly it seems the torque curve isn't as flat compared to stock, I wonder how dramatic that would feel when driving the car?

AEM seems to be the way for me in the furture, just a catback for now we'll see if i can get to the end of the warrenty before i go with the AEM and a tune.

I hope you guys do this for the VA chassis and Grimmspeed intake.

So Perrin with stock is the way to go. This is valuable data. Thank you!

@growingup4487

Жыл бұрын

always tune for the changed airflow

Your rims look amazing what kind of rims are they

what wheels are you running? I love them, would like to get for my WRB VB

Apperiate this!

Suggestion for a follow-up video. Lots of people want to remove the carbon trap and use a high flow pannel drop in filter in place of the OEM filter. Could you do a similar test for that OEM+ intake? I do not want to tune my car and I'd like to see actual data showing that this OEM+ mod won't lean out the AFM and be dangerous for the engine.

I've had mine 23 WRX for about 3 weeks now. I think I'll wait before getting an Intake system.

If you want to be safe with intakes, follow the Perrin structions. And if you want to go fast put some corn on the Cobb 😂

What were the boost numbers you were getting from each?

If you install an intake, do you/should you have it tuned?

Do you think if you had the Perrin Charge Pipe it would have made more power in the dyno??

What size wheels and offset are on that car? Tire size also ?

So stock tune AEM or Perrin? For the moment I just want to do an intake.

What would you guys consider a good strong safe afr for the 2022 Wrx?

Would you guys do a top mount inter cooler comparison, or is it not really worth it?

ETS stage 3 package is the way to go if u plan on getting a pro tune. U looking to spend 1k or more for your pro tune, Make your dyno day worth every penny . ETS FMIC, ETS Intake, ETS exhaust, coobs access port. Additional J pipe.

Is a breakdown of the numbers available?

I don’t know about this generation but my 2014 WOULD NOT boost with a Cobb intake til I got a tune. So I guess the answer is whose got the better tune.

Any chance you can dyno a stock tune with ets and sleeve?

Will the jb4 work good with an ets intake?

Where is this Boosted Performance dyno shop?

I’m confused, you talk about open loop, but then you talk about adjusting the MAF to not “lean on the corrections” does the FA24 have full time closed loop? There were several contradictory things said in this video.

Did you guys do a pro tune with the ets sleeve on too or with it off? I know that can drastically change the difference

@KuyaPow626

Жыл бұрын

The video briefly mentioned the sleeve was OFF the ETS intake the whole time.

Mishimoto is the best intake! got mine tuned by graham on mishimoto intake !

@saultaveras6719

Жыл бұрын

VB wrx? I’m thinking about going with the mishimoto, how much power are you making?

Awesome video! Just to confirm, the Perrin might be best for someone looking for moderate and safe power gains. And it would be good with a Cobb tune? Or would it need a custom tune? I have a 22 6-speed and I love it.

@oceankham

Жыл бұрын

a custom tune would always be beneficial for safety and horsepower gains but the OTS tune and perrin intake has been proven to be safe.

@jonnyftw1441

10 ай бұрын

The cobb tune is intended for STOCK cars only. A few people have blown their cars from running the cobb tune with an intake. I would recommend a custom tune for the intake

@scottgadsen6881

8 ай бұрын

​@jonnyftw1441 Perrin literally has a statement that their testing and calibrations included OTS tunes for the CobbAP on their purchase page.

@scottgadsen6881

8 ай бұрын

If you're nervous, talk to your tuner. If not, these guys have the dynos to prove the minimal risk running these on a stock tune. They also have a statement saying the same testing was performed on all OTS tunes on the CobbAP. No one is is going to hold your hand and tell you everything is perfect, though. There's always risk involved.

@sheriflewis3908

7 ай бұрын

Wow is that the one with the touring manual so you can cruz, then just drop it in 3rd on the free way then fly away?

How about Pro West intake ?

Are these corrected or uncorrected horsepower numbers?

Do you have a link to that front grille? @ 0:49

What wheels are those? Love the look and I have the same color car.

@Starchyyyy

Жыл бұрын

They look like WORK Emotion ZR10 bronze imo.

What rims are on this? Ive tried to find them but I cant.

lowering springs? ride height is perfect.

Mishimoto intake? I know it's brand new, but they did extensive testing on a dyno to make sure AFR stayed like stock.

@ranran2218

Жыл бұрын

Yet it still needs a tune. Everyone running any intake without a tune deserves to have their engine blow.

@PurplePunkanetus

Жыл бұрын

@@ranran2218 who hurt you

@edlorenz1552

Жыл бұрын

​@@ranran2218 deserves? Why are you dumb?

@DarkWolfWRX

Жыл бұрын

​@Purple the intake on his last car, probably.

@tellyawhatmate

Жыл бұрын

They not very good. Had one, disappointed

It would be more honest to do a stock airbox with a tune and then compare these intakes with a tune

I am running the ETS with sleeve on stock tune at 18k miles and its running great, I watch AFR on obd2 port and they were great as well. Someone else did the same thing and had terrible numbers. Guess I lucked out. UPDATE: I looked at LTFT and it was all over the place, +- 17% and even higher sometimes, so I got a protune with Clark Turner. HIGHLY recommend.

@joshwakawaka7409

Жыл бұрын

I just installed my ETS intake, can I know which OBD tool you are using to monitor the AFR?

@ital1anstallion4

10 ай бұрын

@@joshwakawaka7409 any obd2 sensor on amazon, and I used torque pro app. Correction, it adds up to 17% fuel, so for an update, I got a pro tune I did not feel safe, the fuel trim was all over the place to correct the AFR.

Do you need a tune with the Cobb top Mount Inter cooler or is it safe on stock ECU ?

@Nonx47

Жыл бұрын

Very safe

Please do this with a cvt! Some of us like myself just want to do an intake and exhaust just for some good sound and minor performance increases without having to tune it so we can be safe without pushing the Trans too much but also having a little fun!

@RafaelRodriguez-yb3mz

9 ай бұрын

Jb4 It

This may sound silly but can we do a test on drop in filter tests? Just curious if it's even worth

@fougetube

Жыл бұрын

I'd like that too. My last car only needed a drop in filter. The stock airbox was efficient enough, that you didn't need an aftermarket intake. But that doesn't make companies money now does it...

@pharmztko

Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t do anything.. the stock air box is the most restrictive part on this engine.

@scottcalvert2537

Жыл бұрын

@@pharmztko Exactly, they just proved that in this video.

AEM always wins 🔥🔥🔥

You would probably see some good gains if you ran the dyno a couple of times so it can correct the air and fuel ratio and learn the new part you installed

I hate to say it already with it being such a recent video...but you have to add the Mishimoto to this competition. They seem to have put a lot of brain power into it and it looks beautiful I am guessing it will be somewhere above the perrin but below the aem....but without you we will never know!

@mikejmahon28

10 ай бұрын

Apparently you don’t need to tune for Mishimoto. So it probably sucks lol

@716Flat4

10 ай бұрын

@@mikejmahon28 false claims. all intakes should use a tune. 100% the Mishimoto will run lean, especially at higher RPMs.

@mikejmahon28

10 ай бұрын

@@716Flat4 I’m an “elitist” for saying you should tune your car for the parts on it 😂😂. Liberals these days

what exhaust is that?

Danke schön

helluva vid. not getting an intake till i can tune then lol

where r those rims from?

Should you run the ETS intake with or without the sleeve for max power? Assuming you’re tuned

@ZibrayMusic

Жыл бұрын

If your tuner calibrated for the maf sensor housing then without. More air-more power

@pharmztko

Жыл бұрын

Without

How much did you pay for the tune

That’s crazy HP with only an intake and a tune.

Mmmm Subaru is loving all these voided warranties

Would you say the Perrin intake is safe to use on the CVT Models of the VB WRX without a tune?

@gtguy1736

Жыл бұрын

I have the GT wondering the same thing?

@davidciliberti1148

4 ай бұрын

I'm late to the party. The Perrin is ok to use without a tune because the inside diameter of the MAF housing is supposed to be the same as OEM. IDK about any other aftermarket intakes using the same diameter housing/tube

No COBB ?

BRZ intakesnext !

Pause at @6:00 - where can we get those carbon fiber door panels? looks amazing

Damn these new WRX's really making this much power/torque?!

@DarkWolfWRX

Жыл бұрын

They do! The FA24 is no joke. Though the tranny is the first weak point(I have an sti trans lined up for mine) and then at 450whp they are finding the stock head bolts start to stretch.

I’m sorry i haven’t been following the full build. does anybody know what all else is done to it? ain’t no way it’s making 300whp and 400 tq from just an intake lol

@carsnanime4719

11 ай бұрын

In the vid they said Top Mount and catback but those aren't really give much gains so that's pretty much all intake. With a stock top mount I'd imagine that heatsoak would be more of an issue when you are givin it the beans tho lol

Would this work well on the 2022 WRX CVT?

@awesomedude65

Жыл бұрын

I’m trading my cvt in for the manual. I got a 22 limited cvt

Pretty wild that this car makes the same power with an intake tune as a TLX Type S.

Would love to see a similar video for VA WRX!!

Is this CARB legal?

No K&N?

this would have been better with a stock intake compared as well

Perrin it is... while im still under warranty lol

I would love to see power gains with the mishimoto intake

@KuyaPow626

7 ай бұрын

Same I am waiting for more Mishimoto dyno comparisons

Remove charcoal filter and add a drop in K&N and you’re fine.

you still have the stock charge pipe? lol

*Wait, you're making almost +100whp over stock from just an intake mod??*

@ChrisLaneification

Жыл бұрын

Yes haha. It’s insane. Graham tuned my car with a BMS intake and some ethanol. Ram my best friend who was still stock and put trains on the car. The FA24 is a monster with minimal effort.

Not doing the Mishimoto?

@KvnSCZ

Жыл бұрын

This was probably filmed before it was publicly available, I was looking forward to it being in this video but no dice.

The question isn't which intake is the most powerful but which intake is the most reliable to run on your wrx.

@MooseTvGaming

Жыл бұрын

perrin is safest without a tune. if you have a good pro-tune then they're all reliable. DO NOT RUN A COBB OTS TUNE WITH A INTAKE you need a pro/E-tune

@ranran2218

Жыл бұрын

@MooseTvGaming even without a tune it still had parts where it would be lean then rich. I'd never suggest an intake without a tune. Be smart and just get a tune.

@gaivoron

Жыл бұрын

But that answer that in the video.

@ranran2218

Жыл бұрын

@@gaivoron my post was arguing the title of the video. Power doesn't matter. Reliability should be what's important.

@gaivoron

Жыл бұрын

@@ranran2218 true

So stock tune with a cat back and perrin intake gets you 23 hp??? That ain't bad.

I just installed my perrin intake. Supposedly needs no tune on my 2023 wrx. I've only had it on for about 1 day now. But I can't get over how it's lost it's bottom end power. My car's new, but I've driven it quite a bit. It's always pulled really hard and for a scare. All the way through. After I installed the intake I've lost all my bottom end, and it won't kick in until about 4,600 rpm. But by that time it's almost time to shift. I don't know that I'm keeping this intake on my car. I think I'm taking it off and returning it

@JDMRightHandDrive

Жыл бұрын

That does not sound right. I have the Perrin on my car as well and it drives just like stock but car is noticeably faster now.

@shadowdemon7770

Жыл бұрын

@@JDMRightHandDrive that's what I read hoping for. I don't even care if it's not faster, as long as it was the same. And it's lagging. The only thing I can think of, maybe it's cause I don't have any sorta exhaust? It's all stock minus the intake. I thought maybe I installed the MAF sensor backwards but you couldn't if you tried.

@allstarvb

Жыл бұрын

Boost leak? I installed my Perrin intake & charge pipe and drove it for a lil while and it felt great on the stock tune- then when I uploaded my tune it was a LOT faster

@shadowdemon7770

Жыл бұрын

@@allstarvb how can I have a boost leak if I didn't mess with any of that. But honestly that's what it feels like. No Boost at low rpm what so ever.

@digonderongedonga

Жыл бұрын

sounds like a skill issue

proof stock, minus the carbon filter, is just as good...how much more filter surface area do these aftermarket intakes have over the stock intake surface area??

@cdbig9er

Жыл бұрын

🤓

Please change the BG music. Otherwise nice video.

I'm surprised that there is a 2022 car cannot adjust AFR in real time.

It would be interesting to see it with a catless downpipe

@fabiomigotto

Жыл бұрын

You would have to spend big money on a stand alone ECU to tune for a catless downpipe which is technically only for off road use aka race cars (North America). You would otherwise be driving in limp mode. Cobb and EcuTek can no longer shut off check engine codes that relate to factory emission devices. This change happened in April 2022 for Cobb and April 2023 for Ecutek. These include Catalytic converters, TGV's and air pump among the most popular items. Most high flow cats are throwing check engine lights now and the ones that do work are expensive and even then, still hit and miss.

@petkokrushev3840

Жыл бұрын

@@fabiomigotto that's really sad

Mishimoto has the best intake currently

@saultaveras6719

Жыл бұрын

Im thinking about going with mishimoto over AEM. Why do you think it’s better? There’s not a lot of vids or graphs showing power gains with tune

Bro 405 tq 😭😭😭

Which one sounds the best??

Ran the test with the bonnet open. How are you testing the intake at all?

what did ets make on the stock tune?

@JDMRightHandDrive

Жыл бұрын

They said it was not safe to run with a stock tune because maf housing is too large making engine run to lean.

@ZibrayMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@JDMRightHandDrive he said without the sleeve though

@pharmztko

Жыл бұрын

@@ZibrayMusic he specifically said with the sleeve it’s still not safe and needs a tune 3:11

Is this on 93 octane?

@GaigeParolisi

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@ChiSpire

Жыл бұрын

Yes check out 4:36 in the video

The problem with Subaru's IMO is "stage 1" should be a built motor and fuel system. No disrespect meant but I've personally been involved with 2 STi's that $h!t the bed with extremely limited modifications.