Which Ancestry Should You Play in Pathfinder Second Edition?
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There are a ton of Ancestries in Pathfinder Second Edition, so enjoy this quick overview of each one found in the Core Rulebook and Advanced Player's Guide!
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I'm playing a Ratfolk Investigator with Vigilante archetype. His name is Furlock Rolmes, with his Rat Familiar Ratson. His alter ego goes by Ratman, with his trusty sidekick Ratbin!
@AlexPBenton
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Reminds me of my friend’s Anadi Bard who makes witty quips as he nonlethally deals with criminals and spies around. His goes by Percy Potter, but in his spider form he calls himself Mr Dhurman. He is the Spy Dhurman
@clockworkkirlia7475
2 жыл бұрын
RATher amazing!
@ihavenoclue5736
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@Ozgarthefighter
Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I hate it! 😃 Justkiddingitsreallyfreakingneat.
@VMSelvaggio
Жыл бұрын
Perfect!
1:55 "DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!"
@T.Driglok
Жыл бұрын
Rock and stone to the heart!
@juviapullseverything
4 ай бұрын
FOR KARL
Fire Elemental Goblin Sorcerer - His ancestors loved fire so much, they found a way to fornicate with it!
I thought the answer was always full Leshy party?
@Nyrufa
3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Play a Sprite, because spell damage isn't affected by your character's size!
@justas423
2 жыл бұрын
Only if you only fight undead creatures.
@zizirobinson
Жыл бұрын
neo pfp 😎
For people actually trying to figure out what to play: Dont focuse on the "Favored class" part, because in PF you can play as what you like as what ever ancestry. There is a reason why you first choose a ancestry, background and THEN the class you can take 2 panelties to gain one bonus, so you can still get a 18 in any stat you like
@Nonat1s
3 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed! I say the same thing at the end of the video. With the free boost that every ancestry gets, anybody can play anything. It's great.
@skullsquad900
3 жыл бұрын
It's why it's called the "ABC's" of Character Creation ;:)
@StarkMaximum
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but. If I'm new and I want to play a barbarian, and all I know is I want the ancestry that will give me the best barbarian possible...like, someone should tell me that pretty early on. THEN I can start getting creative if I want. I appreciate people trying to make PF2E sound like a wide open sandbox, but please remember decision paralysis is a thing, and not every new player responds well to "read this whole book and pick from these options". Suggestions on the best classes for an ancestry or vice versa can be a big help.
@coolboy9979
3 жыл бұрын
@@StarkMaximum Just because Halfling got a strength flaw doesnt mean you cant play barbarian halfling. If you want to min max then ofc stuff like that can be useful, but the least amount of groups are min maxing and there isnt much difference between a min maxed barbarian and a normal barbarian
@aloseman
3 жыл бұрын
@@coolboy9979 I'm a GM, and when I eventually get to play as a player, I intend to play just that, a halfling giant instinct barbarian named Ruffin Tumble.
Timestamps: 0:50 Sponsor 1:42 Dwarf 2:44 Elf 3:42 Gnome 4:53 Goblin 6:24 Halfling 7:46 Human 9:29 Catfolk 10:57 Kobold 12:36 Ork 14:11 Ratfolk/Yisoki(I think that is how you pronounce it) 15:17 Tengu
@nilobalzani4917
Жыл бұрын
1:58 ROCK AND STONE, BROTHER
@Keovar
Жыл бұрын
The "Ork" spelling is a Warhammer 40k thing.
@milanmarkovic2721
Жыл бұрын
@@Keovar It looks better than Orc.
@Keovar
Жыл бұрын
@@milanmarkovic2721 - That’s just, like, your opinion, man.
@donovanloreman
3 ай бұрын
No Leshy? :(
I made a sexy beautiful goblin who's also an Angel (literally, her father is an angel). I love the versatile heritages.
@dyne313
3 жыл бұрын
She's a Giant Instinct Barbarian. I wanted to make a small character with that subclass, to maximize the size disparity when using a weapon designed for a large character. And a goblin fits that perfectly, first because of no Strength flaw, but also it fits with the goblin personality in general.
"While they seem a bit random, all of the feats fit right in with Goblin Culture. From singing annoying songs to lighting things on fire." - Beautiful. Thanks for the great overview.
Dwarves: “Did I hear a rock & stone?” *Deep Rock Galactic intensifies*
@kronoskai2738
3 жыл бұрын
If you don't Rock and Stone, you ain't coming home!
@blargforlyfe2588
Жыл бұрын
Rock & stone! ⛏️
@derrinerrow4369
Жыл бұрын
Rock 'n Roll and Stone!
Literally anything you want, it's fantastic
@christophergibson4429
3 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it
@rylandrc
3 жыл бұрын
It also works as an answer to the title. :)
This game makes it hard to start games. I keep rebuilding and trying out new builds. One day I'll leave the tavern
@Nonat1s
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good problem to have 😂
My biggest problem is fighting the urge to kill my character off so I can start an new one! All of these heritages are amazing!
@zenvariety9383
3 жыл бұрын
Just play in different campaigns.
Been really enjoying the Ancestry Paragon variant rule, to be able to get more ancestry feats for your character. It makes their ancestry more relevant to the character itself.
Looking forward for Orc and Beastkin deep dives when you get to them. I've got an idea for a character, but I'm still learning the system and it'd be really interesting to get other takes on the ancestry/heritage mechanics
The fact that you didn't list Swashbuckler as a Favored Class for Goblin is a affront. DEX + CHA which is very good for them, Unbreakable Goblin giving them 10 HP and with it's feat combined with that nets you a bonus to Tumble Through and reduced fall damage for when your class and race's penchant for hijnks leads to you falling inevitably. Plus you're a goblin styling on fools as you flip around. It's pretty much the optimum race for Swashbuckler and that's hilarious.
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The Lost Omens Ancestry Guide added some neat feats for Tengu that let them cast spells through a Feather Fan. When they do so, they can use their Class DC instead of the normal spell DC. Which means Tengu fighters, barbarians, and Champions can cast spells that get better as they get stronger (literally).
Who's the best boy? I am. I'm the best boy! Shoony!
Man I feel lied to there is no subscribe button it only says subscribed come on man better sponsors lol
What ancestry should you pick? Whichever one fits your character concept the best. Or kobold.
My favorite ancestry is lizard folk. (obligatory deep dive when statement)
@Nonat1s
3 жыл бұрын
Coming soon*
@ihaveterriblerolls9531
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nonat1s *friendly glare*
I was looking through the channel's video backlog while listening to the youtube plug... The 'When it works' bit got me good. It's funny because it's true....
One thing you forgot to mention is the optional 2 additional flaws to get one more boost. You can stack both flaws when applied to a stat boosted by your ancestry, so that STR boost that's not doing anything for your Orc Wizard? Turn it into a flaw and Boost Dex or Con along with Int. You can also stack free ancestry boosts as long as they're going into a flaw. Want a Dwarf sorcerer? Put optional flaws in Str and Wis and put both free boosts in Cha. Basically, you can't leave the ancestry step with less than 8 or more than 12, but the additional flaws option basically lets *any* stat be 18 on *any* ancestry, and you can just sacrifice a boosted stat you don't care about to get there sometimes (like the Orc wizard)
Your video about halfings inspired me to create a jinxed halfling rogue for our upcoming campaign. This video and your last one about druids, gives me a fun idea for storm Druid tengu! Enjoy the videos!
@Nonat1s
3 жыл бұрын
That's fantastic!! It's crazy to hear my videos inspiring character ideas, haha! My girlfriend has been playing a Tengu Primal Sorcerer and having a blast using mostly nature spells. I hope your Rogue does awesome!
A important PSA Goblins again that is all
This is genuinely my favorite video of yours. It's really entertaining and you lay out the information in a really approachable manner. Really looking forward to Part 2.
@Nonat1s
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kinds words! It seems like people really enjoyed this a lot, so part 2 will definitely be on it's way, and I'll likely make a "Which Class" version at some point too!
Yeah yeah yeah, you already got my like, i've been subscribe for months, bell been rung, and look you even get my comment. Start the video already!
@Nonat1s
3 жыл бұрын
Haha, and I appreciate all of it. It's just part of the job!
ROCK AND STONE, BROTHER
Hobgoblins all the way Nonat, so you can be a martial character and a healer and apply conditions without even taking a class.
So many Ancestries to choose from, and yet all I ever do is play more and more Orcs from the notable Targutai family. Orcs for life, man.
@Nonat1s
3 жыл бұрын
Dude! I'm sitting here playing my third human lol.
@Mercenary0712
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nonat1s Honestly, can't blame you, Humans are temptingly flexible! I'm at 3 Orcs... With at least 6 backup Targutais of differing classes. And that's before I get my hands on the full Gunslinger!
@zenvariety9383
3 жыл бұрын
Just wait until the magus class comes out. Strength and intelligence would be beneficial.
@megavore97
3 жыл бұрын
Haha I'm a fellow Orc lover, I'd say every 2nd or 3rd character I play is an orc or half-orc from the DEFFKRAKKA clan.
@zenvariety9383
3 жыл бұрын
@@megavore97 Not a Pathfinder 2e player yet, but I would like to make an orc character and have him take the challenge of the Starstone. Not only that but have him be a lawful good barbarian with a love for all things military and a desire to improve orc culture by creating orc kingdoms and civilizations. Not to mention have him build a new orc pantheon while watching the original orc pantheon fade into obscurity.
I’m so happy you’re doing regular content. I’m playing my first adventure ever in dnd like games and the gm set it in pathfinder 2e and I must say your videos are fantastically well made, fun and my favourite out there. Thank you! I’m playing a wizard now and next adventure will be a ranger and my only request would be to have more examples of what playing different classes looks like (in and out of combat) instead of the listing of skills. I also loved your spell list in alphabetical order- those videos help me a lot because you give your opinion. Thanks!
@Nonat1s
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words! And boy do I have good news for you, haha! I won't spoil anything, but within the next couple of weeks, you'll be very pleased with the videos! Also, regarding class playstyles, I'd recommend this video "kzread.info/dash/bejne/hoxoxZV_mrvdc9Y.html". I plan to do these for the other classes as well, but I haven't quite gotten around to it!
Always glad to see a video from you
@Nonat1s
3 жыл бұрын
Always glad to see a comment from you
Curious that you say that a Dwarf has one of the highest hit points, and then with the goblin say that with the right choice they can get their hp on the same level as dwarves. But forget to mention that an Orc can get to 12 starting hp with the right heritage.
@Mewzard
3 жыл бұрын
Unbreakable Goblins can take Unbreakable-er Goblin to change their 10 Ancestry HP to 20, basically giving them 10 HP immediately (also making them immune to fall damage...and if you also took Bouncy Goblins, they turn into living Superballs, bouncing across the land if they fall from a high enough height, lol).
@RekijanGaming
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mewzard Sure but I thought we were talking level 1.
@Mewzard
3 жыл бұрын
@@RekijanGaming That's fair, just worth noting (also, I just like talking about the Goblin Superball, lol).
Talk goblin I’m here
I love your positive energy! Keep up the good work.
Not gonna lie, you had me going with that sponsor bit for a minute, lmao
I made a Human Fighter who got the Medical Researcher general feat so she's a Viking shieldmaiden battlefield medic for my first PF2e game upcoming on Saturday.
This was awesome. Would like to see more.
Charisma as “force of personality”: THANK YOU. Charisma to me is all about protagonist energy. You can be a weak and frail dumbass and still manage to succeed by your force of personality on the people around you.
one thing I really like abou PF2e in comparison to dnd 5e is ability boosts form ancestry, you always have on free boost so unless ancestry have ability flaw in your key ability you can easily play any class without feeling punished, and with voluntary flaw you can still achieve 18 in your key ability (but in total you will have 1 ability boost less)
As a DnD refugee this is FABULOUS!!!
You will use the ratfolk’s ancestry name, but not the Amurr? :P
only character I have tried to make (still in progress) is a human rogue with half-elf heritage. using his ancestry feat to get elf atavism to get cavern elf. done. a rogue with dark vision and the versatility of a human. I'm sure there are better choices but, a half-elf rogue is something I would love to try on a real game.
I've always liked Gnomes. In both D&D and PF. I preferred when they were related to dwarves, but they are still my favorite folk.
Ah, I see... my little halfling, friendship is magic.
In 3.5/PF1e, I loved being a hobgoblin shifter druid. Would just always stay in animal form and make things bleeeeeed! Although I am tempted to give up DM duties so I can play a Leshy storm/leaf druid.
thank you for showing us your mistakes. they're very relatable XD
Shoony what can I say I'm biased as all hell and a pug race is a dream come true
oh man gotta love self sponsored video, always the best skits
Great content NoNat. How about a video about what you think would be the *optimal* four player party?
I absolutly love hobgoblin, and they don't have the love they deserve (in the ancestry guide)
These are very flavorful, I feel like more so than DnD. The culture and history can be seen in the feats
Great add, subbed :)
one time i had a half-elf with elf atavism and ancient elf, it was a thing of beauty. having a dedication a level 1 saved a level2 feat. and the paizo forbade it.
Good stuff. Do the rest of the ancestries, please. :-)
Great overview! Do the follow up video please
My personal favorite PF2E Ancestries are probably a Dwarf and a Human. I'm still learning the system, and I like Dwarves for their amazing Hit Points and a free Clan Dagger at Level 1, and Humans for their versatility and access to cool Half-Human Heritages (Orc Ferocity!). Dwarves also have a very special place in my heart due to some personal reasons.
Got to love them little big buttons.
2:21 Did I hear a Rock and Stone!?
2:20 DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?!
In 3.5e, one of the strongest chharacters I had was Halfling Barbarian. DEX based, with S&B, Power Attack. I had lot of HPs, high AC, great saves, I was extremely hard to kill.
What Ancestry should you play? Yes!
"Kobolds don't like to be leaders and prefer to follow stronger individuals and serve as lower flunkies." "Kobolds get a racial bonus to Charisma..." Sure they do, Paizo.
@pango4425
2 жыл бұрын
It makes a lot of sense to me. Charisma isn't solely about being a leader. It's about talking your way out of a situation, which includes convincing enemies you're not worth the trouble.
Rude man chase off bird. Clearly good bird, got hype for Kobolds. Bird was Kobold friend.
i am so keen on them bringing wyvernians back
I heard your comment about making sexy beautiful goblins and thought "is that a thing." So I Googled it and yea, it's a thing.
I’m an alt-oholic. I can’t pick just one.
@Nonat1s
3 жыл бұрын
that's a big ol' mood
@Nyrufa
3 жыл бұрын
Ysoki, Half Orc Dwarf, Half-Elf Gnome, Dhampir Leshy, Tiefling
@Sordorack
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nyrufa while i do think its interesting and funny, leshies with versatile heritages dont really make sense when you consider they are literally justplants, enchated by druids to be able to think, walk and talk (so to say) ^^
@Nyrufa
3 жыл бұрын
@@Sordorack True, but I think that weird, potted plant thing in the opening artwork for Lost Omens might have been a Leshie Fleshwarp. It had needle sharp teeth and feathers coming off it.
@Sordorack
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nyrufa lost omens can mean many different books ^^ if you mean the ancestry guide, i dont see any pottet plant there - except if you mean the cactus leshy there - which is just a normal leshy heritage in that book
The problem with having so many choices is you never get attached to your character. Building the character is 90% of the fun and the other 10% is trying it out. After that, your soon on to the next experiment. Instead of playing a generic character and building into.something amazing that is uniquely yours, your given everything up front with little reason to explore beyond advancing to the next level for more customization. This sucks as a GM because players are constantly adjusting and scrapping characters and there is very little you can do to reward your players for their achievements beyond leveling them. Sometimes less is more.
My Man I’m sold dude I’ll sub 😂 You’re fuckin awesome
I have an elf fighter styled behind a samurai in Society. Not optimal but the move bonuses and theming have been a ton of fun. Although I can’t strongly dislike drow anymore
I can’t wait to build a Catfolk, maybe the birdthing, most excellent information
Now I must create Fivol from an American Tail and he's of course searching for his family having gotten separated on the way to this new world.
Halfling foot-merkins are definitely a thing
Never go wrong with Elf for me, the perk of being able to be smug with short lived creature never gets old and I can never get enough of caster play.
I haven't been playing long enough to say for sure, but I'm really liking my Half-Orc Champion. *The Glimpse of Redemtion is kinda broken lol
2:20 ROCK AND STONE!!!!!
@Nonat1s
3 жыл бұрын
DEEPROCK
If Catfolk did not get a boost to Cha, I would be very disappointed. Even as humanoids, I would want to pet every catfolk I see.
I have a dwarf monk focusing on Gorilla Stance and Athletics. It’s amazing, but the 20 speed is frustrating. Eyes on the prize, though. He will get much faster.
That bird did that to give you a DMCA notice!
11:05 I can only hear the bird when I put my headphones on. On my speakers, even when I crank the volume. I can't hear it over the sound of the fan on low in my room.
" *little big* red subscribe button with a bell next to it" That's a way to phrase it. Also orc druids are great, you can bonk people on the head and take all the shaman/soothsayer feats and be all mystical and stuff
I usually go human or human-adjacent, like the half-elf heritage. When most people are playing zoofolk, being human is the unique choice.
Nice!
For me my top 3 choices are 1. Fleshwarp 2. Automaton 3. Catfolk Might have to revise once I have Sinclair’s because cow people!
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My favorite ancestry was the birb on your balcony
For my rogue, I took Human, half-elf, elf Atavism, Cavern elf. Darkvision for the win.
While they're not great at 1st level. I'd really like to play a Dwarf monk. The slow speed hurts at first level, but the monk speed boost makes up for it.
Core - Goblin. Advance - Tied between Kobold or Rat. Lost Omen - Anadi.
"Little big red subscribe button." I clicked it despite the contradiction.
That "sponsor" though
I thought I was face shallow for a bit Because l can’t watch some KZreadrs but then I realise it’s not the face it’s the voice ………🥳you’ve got a good one ☺️
Half Elf Elf atavism (Seer) Adopted ancestry - raised by halflings Fey infused
Not to further cement my reputation as That Guy Who Talks About Champions ™ or anything, but Halflings make fantastic Liberators, especially if you build them ranged style. Liberator is a pretty niche Champion Cause, but if you're in a game where you know it would be helpful to have someone who can delete crowd control and also serve as the party's face, you could do worse than a Halfling Liberator.
the birb was a bard and was trying to use Inspire Competence
I am about to play my firat pathfinder campaign, and I am considering A very brainy orc Inventor weaponmaster path. I am not sure on the background, but maybe Arrisan? Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated ^^
You know, I hate most times someone points at like, subscribe and the in my case unneeded bell... but you every now and then find a way to make it fun.
1:58 FOR ROCK AND STONE
I need a Leshy breakdown.
Literally anything i like