honestly, Linus just going completely nuts at the front panel of the case with a drill was the best part of the video

@theatlastech8792

2 жыл бұрын

This needs to happen anytime there is a case that is designed without front mesh.

@sennevanopdorp2022

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't even turn off the pc

@redfish3858

2 жыл бұрын

@@sennevanopdorp2022 he was just that mad about it

@Ferrari255GTO

2 жыл бұрын

@@theatlastech8792 agreed, drills are now part of the required hardware to build pcs

@Splarkszter

2 жыл бұрын

agreed

-How's Linus handling the stress of moving to a new house? -He's fine, (Linus opens the front of the PC with a hole saw) he's just fine.

@nicoherrerai

2 жыл бұрын

Almost taking Jake's finger in the process. hehe

@andrewmoon3409

2 жыл бұрын

And i thought Steve at Gamers Nexus was Brutal

@TheRatchetnclank

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewmoon3409 steve would be proud.

@AndreFG

2 жыл бұрын

While the pc is running with the watercooler mounted right behind the holes

@jayhollowayii2

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicoherrerai Linus is the reason they need workmens compensation claims lol 😝

This should be the standard for every tech reviewer. If you see a flat front panel with no ventilation, cut out giant holes and literally show companies how to do it.

@animalyze7120

Жыл бұрын

Well you can thank the Millennial crowd for the no vent front heater boxes they demanded to fit some twit aesthetic they all wanted. At least after almost 10 years we no longer get these choked boxes like NZXT H series among others.

@patrickrichardson2195

Жыл бұрын

@@animalyze7120 OK boomer

@Letsgetdusty

Жыл бұрын

@@animalyze7120 Ok boomer

@Letsgetdusty

Жыл бұрын

@@animalyze7120 Ok boomer

@jjpaq

Жыл бұрын

@@animalyze7120 Spoiler: if you ever find yourself saying "they all", stop and consider. You're probably wrong.

Gigabyte thinking "do not hand this to Steve! He will crucify us on airflow." Gigabyte watching this video "is that a drill?! Is he drilling out the front panel?! Oh god!"

@aoyuki1409

Жыл бұрын

i love how 445 people and myself agreed that Steve will crucify them instead of kill or burn or roast or other synonyms idk my english bad.

@BaMbOoZeD

Жыл бұрын

Who is Steve? 🤔

@aoyuki1409

Жыл бұрын

@@BaMbOoZeD tech jesus

@BaMbOoZeD

Жыл бұрын

@@aoyuki1409 Wtf 😋

@apieceofcrap8794

Жыл бұрын

@@BaMbOoZeD the host of gamernexus. He is also called tech Jesus by the community The guy is huge on airflow. “The case is fine” is possibly the most praise he will have a case manufacture

"Imagine designing a whole product around getting all the cables out of the way of the airflow and then not having any f**king airflow." - Linus

@randallporter1404

2 жыл бұрын

Or enough space for all the cables...

@mathewbriggs6667

2 жыл бұрын

tbh i thought he was just going to pic it up and amash it on the ground by the end

@tunedskillsz

Жыл бұрын

I'm confused about this cables and air flow concept... I'm pretty sure the cables are hidden for looks, not for airflow. Does anyone have data to back up that hiding cables gives better thermals?

@blaneiobe8579

Жыл бұрын

@@tunedskillsz I’d agree that’s definitely the main reason, but taking anything out of the path of your airflow will increase cooling although the increase of not having cables is pretty minimal I’d assume, it also gives less overall surface area to cool which would also help again I’d assume minimally. I’d say that’s more a consultation prize as the look is definitely the main appeal

@kyloluma

Жыл бұрын

@@tunedskillsz not the main reason, but cables get in the way of airflow, so the less obstacles, the more air flow

The whole crew: “Shouldn’t you turn the PC off first?” Linus: “Give me the drill”

@ancient_void

2 жыл бұрын

I think they know the drill by now

@jmanig76

2 жыл бұрын

Badum-tsss

@devvytm

2 жыл бұрын

When I saw that drill fly...😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@kunjupulla

2 жыл бұрын

Haha he's too rich to bother 😎

@zombkiller357

2 жыл бұрын

@Hòmè Ďeçoŕè bro i was just about to say the stuff we never dream of doing with our pc's on......give me the drill while its on!!!!

The case’s appearance was actually improved after Linus took a hole saw to it. That should be a major wake up call for Gigabyte. The front of this case should have been based on that large hex design that sits directly behind the solid front panel. It would have looked way better and the components would be able to last longer than 6 minutes without overheating.

@sean5350

Жыл бұрын

Dam that's so god dam funny

@lunakoala5053

Жыл бұрын

They seem to have gone with another case now. GIGABYTE AORUS C500. Has Mesh in the front.

@shiro3146

Жыл бұрын

@@lunakoala5053 seems this slaps gigabytes in faces huh?

@skibooski6884

5 ай бұрын

A hole saw?

@kylestewart4444

5 ай бұрын

@@skibooski6884 a hole saw is a cylindrical saw blade that cuts a round hole when chucked into a drill.

Gigabyte: We made this cool case wanna try it? Linus: Im about to destroy this whole company’s career

@captainpoptarts

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much

@andrei_fr5294

2 жыл бұрын

😅

@cyberrb25

2 жыл бұрын

For that exchange, they should've made an actual cool case.

@rice214

2 жыл бұрын

Hi

@HearMeLearn

2 жыл бұрын

I mean they make good motherboards... just avoid their power supplies and cases I guess... yeesh lmao. Not a good look for gigabyte these days

I love how Linus just aggressively drilled into the case while the computer was running without any regard for anything.

@Daniel-Gomez-M

2 жыл бұрын

I would drill 3 holes, screw that Gigabyte logo

@orangeapples

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't work, so it isn't like he can break it.

@MrAssChapman

2 жыл бұрын

Throw a couple of fan grills on there and it would look great too.

@AvoidMyGost

3 ай бұрын

Classic linus

One of the best videos I’ve seen in a while, the wild, quick ending of Linus screwing a couple massive holes in the side of the case was perfection.

Telling the truth about all these issues despite being your sponsor is definitely the reason why I keep watching you over other channels.

I enjoyed the sudden possession of Linus by Gamers Nexus Steve and going nuts on the lack of airflow (and creating airflow). It was like a silent collab.

@MrTrilbe

2 жыл бұрын

you could say the collab would be a... Stealthy... Project

@j.d.8593

2 жыл бұрын

I know! He really went full Steve there! 🤣🤣

@Dmitriy.0

2 жыл бұрын

Back to you, Steve!

@jwalden91lx

2 жыл бұрын

I'm just picturing Steve as Pai Mei stroking his long non-existent beard and then giving a nod of approval.

@richardhunter9779

2 жыл бұрын

In fact, Linus may have just raised the bar for Steve.

Tech companies need a team of Linus' to pre test all their junk first

@mfaizsyahmi

2 жыл бұрын

What's the plural of Linus? Linuses? Lini?

@untamablewolf

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Yooo its figureight! I love your videos man I've been watching you for years. I remember wanting a PC so bad so I could blend cars with the menyoo mod like you did back in the day. I finally built a PC last year and the first thing I did was exactly that

@namAehT

2 жыл бұрын

He pitched that idea in the water-cooled laptop video. Labs/LMG could consult on product development in the future, the only problem is preventing a conflict of interest when the company inevitably sponsors a video.

@azrilrapaiee

2 жыл бұрын

thats is the ltt lab is all.about

@brandonalexander5185

2 жыл бұрын

I mean I'd apply for the job

That explosion startled me haha. As always amazing editing LMG crew.

3:10 there is literally zero challenges in building such a board. The connectors are already mounted through hole, the only thing needed is to reverse the pin layout and solder the connectors the other way around. US patent law is ridiculous, how can such basic thing as putting connectors on the other side of the PCB (which was already done, think M.2 slots on the back of the MB) be allowed to be patented is beyond me.

@GenesisRasphotos

2 жыл бұрын

Because you can patent near anything 😂

@Tony-pb2gi

2 жыл бұрын

@@GenesisRasphotos Yep, and just because its patented, doesnt mean other companies cant also do it, citing prior use/existence.

@GenesisRasphotos

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tony-pb2gi or just be like china and not give a damn

@artur6912

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, having a patent only gives you legal ground to seek you rights in court, it's not a guaranteed auto win. A really big company could probably just bankrupt a smaller patent squatter in a drawn out court case.

@Madman097

Жыл бұрын

Patenting things like connector placement is ridiculous and a person/company doing that should burn in hell forever.

If this channel had a yearly "funny moments" compilation, Linus getting mad about the cooling (heating?) performance & aggressively cutting out the front panel would be a top contender. That was legendary.

@steveblanshan428

2 жыл бұрын

yessss

@xXRealXx

2 жыл бұрын

He clearly learned a lot from Steve from GamersNexus! Steve must be so proud

I can only imagine Aorus directors being excited for this review only to find their product had holes drilled in it. Oh to be a fly on the wall in that board room…

@CataclysmZA

2 жыл бұрын

WHY WOULD YOU SEND A KIT OF DDR4 WITH A DRR5 BUILD?! smh.

@adamkamieniarz9223

2 жыл бұрын

all negative content was condensed towards last few minites that hardly nobody still watches and for drilling the video will make a wave

@sinuslebastian6366

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamkamieniarz9223 yeah nobody watches the last part of a video, that's why we've got 4k people commenting about the last part of the video.

@epicshade3463

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly died laughing thinking about that when he just drilled right into it and said Great idea poor execution.

@Jadebones

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, their design already had holes in it.

I thought about how cool of an idea this would be a couple days ago and I was like that’s a brilliant idea and now I’m seeing that this exists already and it’s been around for months regardless very cool idea

@djcarrotking

Жыл бұрын

Not just months, over a decade already

Great vid. I took sometimes to make some "SPEEDHOLES" of myself on my pc because of this! Thanks for inspiring!

Steve approves of Linus's emergency tracheotomy on that suffocating case.

@americansmark

2 жыл бұрын

Case flows just fine. For all his knowhow on tech stuff, he understands nothing of airflow and his own videos prove that.

@dillansherwood2930

2 жыл бұрын

@@americansmark he showed that it was overheating then drilled the holes and temps when down which makes me think you don’t know what you’re talking about

@JackNormalMemes

2 жыл бұрын

@@americansmark Found the case layout designer

@PabzRoz

2 жыл бұрын

@@dillansherwood2930 Do you know what negative pressure is? Obviously the way Linus set up the cooling it would immediately overheat like that. This case would clearly have a better time cooling with a negative pressure set up. Same way the NZXT cases have a closed off front panel yet still perform well enough to cool your components. If Linus mounted a radiator at the top as an exhaust and an exhaust fan in the back it would cause fresh ambient air to be sucked into the case from every open space and gaps available. Thus negative pressure airflow. Not saying it would perform out of this world or anything but it would definitely perform way better then this set up. I believe that's what the person above was thinking when he wrote his comment but did a terrible job expressing it.

@uemiduram52

2 жыл бұрын

@@PabzRoz setting it up on top with the magnetic filter would not let in nearly as much airflow as the front with the 2 holes drilled, and there wouldn't be enough vents for negative pressure either, there simply would be no airflow at all idk where you're getting at

This was a journey. It started so positive and just went off the deep end. Top notch content.

@absurddive

2 жыл бұрын

Linus got the Gigabyte experience

@ReanuKeevesAus

2 жыл бұрын

At least it didn't explode! LoL!

@kaleid1990

2 жыл бұрын

Linus unleashed his inner Steve from Gamers Nexus and then some :))) Gigabyte got rekt!

@faithblack3851

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I see what you mean...hmmm

I haven't watched these videos in over a year and he still dropping stuff. Lovely

After just assembling a new PC this week, your comment about companies not being able to come together for a standardized front panel connector layout hit home. Drove me crazy!

Every reviewer should tackle issues they encounter like this. Especially if it's something they are supposed to send back. Company: "Hey, we noticed you drilled giant holes in the case we lent you" Reviewer: "Yeah, because you guys created a HOTBOX to COOL the computer!"

@TheRealSkeletor

2 жыл бұрын

*lent, not borrowed. "Borrowed you" is not a thing in English.

@Shad0wReaper133

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealSkeletor *Lent, as in to lend something to someone. "Leant" is just an extension of "lean" which people use the more appropriate "leaned" like if you were to lean against a wall, "He leaned against the wall."

@TheRealSkeletor

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shad0wReaper133 You are correct. I blame autocomplete.

@crazychainsaw007

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealSkeletor not unless he makes it go viral :D Tiax could have just created the next "yerrrrttt" or "nah what im sayin?"

@lareolanKFP

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealSkeletor There is more than just American English out there, I'm fairly sure "borrowed you" is just a local expression in some part of the English-speaking world.

9:39 that screwdriver flip was smooth af

@TheRealSkeletor

2 жыл бұрын

Just like when he dropped the entire system.

@fahlur9880

2 жыл бұрын

yea, yet he drops everything else..

@lummoxicide1502

2 жыл бұрын

I didnt catch that until you pointed it out 🤣

@ImClaux

2 жыл бұрын

Well, truly I did not expect to see your comment here huh. remembering your channel from the golden times of cod. How are you doing nowadays if you don't mind someone asking this randomly.

@BenjaminMorris

2 жыл бұрын

I love the sound effect they added with it too.

Loved the editing and Linus's passion for efficient builds, laughed so hard

I'm glad it got worked out between the companies. I hope we can see more PCs like this.

Gigabyte: "Have Linus test is is cheaper than doing proper testing ourselves"

@LordToxygene

2 жыл бұрын

Built in drop test 99.99% guaranteed.

@christophermartin1973

2 жыл бұрын

Only if they take the advice, and honestly if they really did and kept iterating quickly it would end up being an awesome product with basically built in marketing value. Send LTT a demo case that they never make in production numbers, let them rip it, and then fix all the issues and send a new one within 2 weeks. With LTT serving as product Q/A in the process, and a vendor sharing their unique ability to create physical products and bouncing them off LTTs ability to fairly critique design and implementation - they could start a certification program - and meaningfully start to shape the standards to develop the next generation of internal PC structure sanity-checking and thermal compromises. It'll be Snakes on a Plane but with pc cases, we'll end up with something that looks like it came out of Star Trek eventually - I don't think that can be anything but good.

@LOKO22Bach

2 жыл бұрын

@@christophermartin1973 only flaw with that strategy is that they need to make it enticing for ltt to keep doing those videos, they're not dumb... well, maybe they are, but they're not solid-front-panel dumb

What a rollercoaster of emotions this build was. The back-mounted connectors seem like a brilliant idea - but then the holes aren't properly drilled out, argh! It looks spacious and clean - but then there's no freaking airflow?! Come on! Dang it!

@Aries0098

2 жыл бұрын

I own this case. There is airflow from the front panel, but minimal. I would not suggest radiators on the front panel as demonstrated by Linus. I had to install fans on the top of the case to have a decent enough airflow overall, which is more investment than a mesh one. I would suggest using an air cooler for this case for better temps and populating it with intake fans. If you will use an AIO, stick with a 240 or 280mm on the top.

@brianwest2775

2 жыл бұрын

Great for a video, but not a product. Bizarre.

@Aries0098

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianwest2775 Solid front panel cases are like that.

@devvytm

2 жыл бұрын

Life is sometimes filled with dissapointments.

@markissboi3583

2 жыл бұрын

everything is watercooled on my pc fans on Radiator's My Gpu runs @ idle 26cel

Kudos to Gigabyte for finally beginning work on an Idea I've had for a very long time, it's not perfect yet but it is a very good start on a solid and novel solution to cable clutter.

Hurray, finally somebody had this good idea. I said to myself many times, why aren't some connectors at the back of the MB or at least angled. For example, for ATX, audio and USB 3.0 headers, and so on can be at least angled. I hope that all manufacturers of the components implement similar solutions.

It's just insane seeing Linus fix the case by just drilling a couple holes in the front panel. Don't they companies even try to test their products anymore?

@benjaminoechsli1941

2 жыл бұрын

Linus is the test group. 😏

@Sechs0rBecks

2 жыл бұрын

That is why all these review samples are givin' away, i guess, and boom 2nd generation pops out.

@nightlybob

2 жыл бұрын

As the other comments mentioned here. Yes linus and other pc reviews are technically the testers. For companies they're rather save money and let communities comment on their products

@SuperDinomagic

2 жыл бұрын

Linus Test Tips

@ElainesStory

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminoechsli1941 Linus Tests Tech :)

Jake: "He's not telling you stories about paint, is he?" That was a good one. 😂

@Wufnu

2 жыл бұрын

The more I see them work together the more convinced I am that, some day, Linus is going to take Jake for a ride in the glass Linu-vator.

@Nerdificationing

2 жыл бұрын

When did he say that?

@_laserpants_2203

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nerdificationing 6:16

Can I just say that that ending was really well done. The way Linus haphazardly drilled holes in the case summed up the review to a 't' - great concept shoddy execution

great video really like seeing what goes on behind the scenes and so interesting and funny 😁👍

That was interesting... watching Linus go from enthusiasm to disappointment to cursing at the design. 😲 While he was talking about the lack of front airflow I kept thinking about drilling a grid of holes in the front panel - then he busted out the big hole cutter! Without even turning the computer off! 🤣

@buffcode

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it's all SSDs so it isn't like it's gonna have concussive drive failure.

So not only did Gigabyte make something with Kickstarter prototype levels of problems, they somehow managed to find a way to fill a custom built PC with cheap prebuilt PC bloatware like Norton too.

@Fenriswaffle

2 жыл бұрын

Its something I've seen Asus do as well with their Armory Crate shit, its literally a BIOS rootkit that attempts to auto-install shit in to Windows. Its absolutely disgusting and I have to assume they install Norton as part of some agreement with Norton. Always about the money...

@Google_Does_Evil_Now

2 жыл бұрын

It's such a hateful scumbag thing to do. I always return the product and make a strong bad mental note and feeling about the brand to never buy their products again. I don't buy Sony since PCMCIA memory card because of the thieving rotten thing they did where they took standard SD cards and put their own connector, PCMCIA, and charged 3x the price. 3x! That was decades ago, no Sony for me since then. Anything with Norton - not for me, never, ever. They are anti-customer. Anti-customer. WTF. It's like being at the supermarket, you're bagging your shopping, and as you go to pay the store worker throws a bag of sh1te into your bags over all your shopping. F. O. With this rotten rotten nasty way to treat someone giving you money.

@remain_

2 жыл бұрын

This

@Jehty_

2 жыл бұрын

And on top of that they infringed on a patent. (yes, they later fixed that but that doesn't make it much better)

this video has everything I LOVE about LMG videos: they cut the crap and are dead honest. Even if they are enthusiastic about a product or market shift or new trend, they expect the minimum regarding usability and thoughtfullness from the manufacturer. Seriously, the stupidity of the front panel is beyond nuts and the fact that you can't fit some connectors (like the RGB) shows a huge lack of commitment for building great products and more like a "yo, let's try this stuff, put it together and send it to media asap to gain traction, sure gamers gonna love"...

This is actually really cool. Hope to see more of it.

I love how he picked it apart to show the changes more in detail.

I can't believe a concept like where a cable connector is placed in a motherboard can be patent. Specially when MainGear said THEY(Gigabyte) figured it out.

@jordananderson2728

2 жыл бұрын

It's a demonstrable change to the manufacturing process and use case that could be used to foster competition. Remember that Apple parents the _corner radius_ of the iPhone case.

@ChuckBaggett

2 жыл бұрын

Abolish patents and copyright.

@AlvarezAdrian1

2 жыл бұрын

@@kittenwizard4703 nah, it breeds stagnation as well. Look up patent trolls

@donaldendsley6199

2 жыл бұрын

While I agree with you, it's really not that hard of a patent to get around. I mean a 180º connector really isn't that hard, and would give you the majority of the look.

@SlenderHime

2 жыл бұрын

Capitalism at its finest

Linus summed this up nicely - "Great concept, poor execution." I love the idea here, and I'd certainly be interested in doing a build with no visible cables. But it has to actually have airflow. Give me this case with a mesh front panel...and sort out the issues with cutouts being a bit too small.

@forrestofbarnes

2 жыл бұрын

Just pull a Linus a drill it LOL

@Chris-hw4mq

2 жыл бұрын

Gigabyte be like: Bruh it didnt catch on fire. Its a success

@def-po8tu

Жыл бұрын

U could always use a drill or 3d print a front panel with the airflow u want lol

@Bitfire31337

Жыл бұрын

Well, at least Linus "execution" of the front panel wasn't too bad 😅.

@corsairsofnarshaddaa

Жыл бұрын

Honestly. This is my holy grail. Too bad its a false messiah haha. I actually don't mind seeing cables if they're good looking like CableMods, but the front control/USB cables are still all so ugly.

This kind of motherboard is super cool! I can see that kind of motherboard would be super useful for Mini-ITX motherboards.

I found this video very helpfull. ive been looking at project stealth for a while now. I like it alot but yes still needs some work.

The editing on this video is fantastic, I love how it shows the progression of linus getting more pissed before it just jump cuts to him drilling giant fucking holes for airflow lmao

@Mr_Bedlam215

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly. It's like you can hear the teapot starting to whistle as it boils, then, sudden kaboom. It was glorious.

I was actually just thinking today why anyone hasn’t done this yet. And then this video came out. I hope all future mainstream PCs are like this honestly, this just makes way more sense

@davidjohnston4240

2 жыл бұрын

This is how custom systems are designed. A place for the cables, a place for the chips, a place for the external connectors and a place for the airflow. PCs are kind of messed up in that respect.

@kurok1tenshi

2 жыл бұрын

I hope i´m wrong but it will never take flight cause idiotic companies love proprietary too much, this would for everyone to play ball and use the same connectivity in the same spot. I remember years ago the dock-on plug-and-play concept also that never too off, a shame really.

@philipz794

2 жыл бұрын

That‘s literally how the macpro back in 2019 is built. Not a single cable in this machine.

@e21big

2 жыл бұрын

@@choppings54 with only a single proprietary GPU compatibility... Nah, just give me an option for frosted glass side panel compromising compatibility for aesthetic is dumb. Especially for internal hardware.

@whydoihavetodothisannoying

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, no... not until that patent expires

Niice! Now we can also change the case every generation. I was looking forward to that.

Superb summation, I am bafffled tech companies still haven't learned this lesson.

Love the concept of hiding the cables and love how Linux went all Steve on the lack of airflow. They just need a mesh version of the case and it should be great.

@m0r73n

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was full Gamers Nexus for a while there, well deserved critique, why do the manufacturer still do stupid shit like this.

@Onihikage

2 жыл бұрын

The part with not being able to fully remove the front panel because of the cables on the front I/O is very reminiscent of the Fractal Design Meshify C. In any case, it's a pretty lousy design choice.

@wertywerrtyson5529

2 жыл бұрын

@@Onihikage I have the cheaper Fractal Focus G for my secondary PC and you can take off the front panel with no issues there. Strange that the Meshify C has that issue.

This is actually pretty dope, other than the airflow

@wulfhart2

2 жыл бұрын

and the crappy cable management... or the lack thereof.

@cant461

2 жыл бұрын

@@wulfhart2 its a good concept..except airflow but gigabyte ia gigabyte

@Adamt.magician

2 жыл бұрын

Cool concept but any product that installs Norton on a fresh Windows install needs to immediately get in the bin

@pandemicneetbux2110

2 жыл бұрын

I really just don't get it and I think that zoomers got conned into thinking solid front panels are fine just because the companies are all too cheap to do anything else. But other than that yeah, I originally signed back in just to say how great I think this is what a cryin dayum shame it is we didn't get to have this all the way back in 2012 because of some irredeemably stupid corporate reason. It's like, why the F does Capitalism so often insist on operating just as stupidly as Russian style Communism. We had real innovation here and it was choked off by some bullshit "intellectual property" thing I bet. I've become convinced that a lot of innovation happens in spite of, not because of, market conditions. Market conditions is how we get stuck with crap like Dell and HP or nVidia's retarded performance crippling GimmickryWorksTM or Apple cultism acting like they found hidden treasures for the *shocking* feature of...a single additional NVMe drive mount. On a multithousand dollar worse performing computer. But it has that BrandTM AestheticsTM! Although to be fair thank God market conditions also often help some things along to failure because we're rather have that balance between Socialistic-tier universal compatibility but no innovation vs everything locked down and proprietary under 'murican turbo Capitalism. Like for example Corsair's bullshit proprietary ARGB connectors. Next to nobody uses that so far as I'm aware, because who the F wants to get locked into a "fan ecosystem." Or why Sony's proprietary storage ecosystem failed hard in the early 2000s/late 90s iirc, while USB became a universal standard.

@pandemicneetbux2110

2 жыл бұрын

@@wulfhart2 I literally want that cable management. See the thing is you don't realize how bad cable management truly is until you've tried routing multiple sets of CoolerMaster Halo MF120s with 3 hard drives and 3 SATA SSDs, two of which are front mounted, on top of a GPU bracket with RGB and two optical drives (because you'll pull my original Broodwars CD from my cold dead hands). So it becomes a complete nightmare to manage properly, not have any shorts and fit the back panel back on the case squeezing all that shit in, which is the main potential problem on this thing, otherwise it'd be great to build in. I can then just run the cables to the back, have a clean open front with great airflow, and just forget about the abominable cable monster that lives in the basement.

this is my dream buile all along, perfect cable management!

now we need to see gigabyte reaction to this video, especially the part where he drilled the case, that was hilarious, really made my day 😂😂😂

so drilling holes in the front panel of your case is meta now? aight

@EliteSniper37

2 жыл бұрын

i guess so

@sthrncrss8402

2 жыл бұрын

Those are speed holes. They make the pc go faster

@davidrajchman7162

2 жыл бұрын

@@sthrncrss8402 the actually do😂

@OneDabMan

2 жыл бұрын

*grabs drill* looks at laptop ...

@atari2600b

2 жыл бұрын

Always has been

That moment at 14:01 when you see a hole saw and Linus takes some moving stress out shortly after. AMAZING.

@bodyno3158

2 жыл бұрын

linus + power tool = OSHA violation

@D_Wito

2 жыл бұрын

And he also provides manual for pc case "unboxing" process, like why didn't they just make the holes earlier but instead left it for user to do xD strange feature (it should be marketed as "you can make intake hole in the shape you want/are able to do ") I was like that with medium Lian Li case, I was like hmm... bottom supports 3x 120mm fans, 140mmm are not supported... but... it can fit, strange that I have to make holes for 140mm fan screws by myself

That's a very refreshing design. I'd love to see the custom PC industry go that way more often.

I loved the hole drilling part though. Really didn't expect that

Don't send Linus a case without enough cooling holes, or he'll drill more. I can't imagine how emasculated the engineers that designed this product feel when watching this.

@Derethevil

2 жыл бұрын

That is IF they see this.

@salty1099

2 жыл бұрын

I think Steve would do something similar too

@kevinwells9751

2 жыл бұрын

If I had to hazard a guess the engineers who worked on this case knew this was a problem and told their bosses that, but management and the design team probably ignored them. The design comes first because that's what sells cases. Most people just assume that the case will work and don't have Linus's experience to tell them that restricted airflow like that will throttle your PC

@uemiduram52

2 жыл бұрын

they're not engineers, it was prolly the marketing team that designed this

@uemiduram52

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinwells9751 and one doesn't even need to have linus' experience, it is common sense that gets overlooked by the low iq masses

I imagine this being an entire new formfactor. Like adding "-F" to the end of the sku to say "flipped" So you can have "ATX-F" compatible cases, with ATX-F motherboards

@DoctorWhom

2 жыл бұрын

Flipped sounds like BTX

@theredscourge

2 жыл бұрын

How about ATX-WTF? (For "With The power Flipped" of course)

@DaetB

2 жыл бұрын

We need a stealth line of PC parts, with power swtiched and cases with Stealth in mind!!!!

@Atlessa

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaetB So ATX-S (S for "Switched" or "Stealth" )

@Stone_Rock

2 жыл бұрын

@@Atlessa in this video more like suffocate

This reviews exemplifies why I love you guys

This takes me back to when I used to work on and sysadmin Sun, SGI and other brands of Unix workstations. They had very few cables in them (Sun Ultra workstations in particular) and they were super tidy and easy to work on. I look inside the average tower PC and wish more of them were like what I see in this video and those workstations I used to run.

@mndlessdrwer

2 жыл бұрын

Workstations back in the day also used to make use of a lot of riser boards and daughter cards, which were unreasonably cool in their own right. I miss those halcyon days of computing when companies just went balls to the wall and did what they wanted to do to get the performance in the form factor that they wanted. Having said that, there are still quite a few companies that make servers where the only cables you have are the SAS cables going to the front drive controller board from the custom PCIe slot on the side of the motherboard where the RAID controller sits. Thankfully, more companies are moving to RAID controllers that will operate in JBOD mode without necessitating you flashing a custom BIOS and ROM to the controller.

@adam872

2 жыл бұрын

@@mndlessdrwer totally. In terms of RAID, I'm now all about ZFS (having come from NetAPP technology) which means giving the OS very low level access to the individual disks. In that world, hardware RAID controllers are seen as more of a hindrance than anything.

@mndlessdrwer

2 жыл бұрын

@@adam872 Hence why I mentioned JBOD support, as it allows you to address all of the disks as Just a Bunch Of Disks, and thus lets you use software RAID. Sure, you lose a lot of the justification for a RAID controller in the first place, but at least it can still give you diagnostic info.

@adam872

2 жыл бұрын

@@mndlessdrwer indeed

Steve is going to drop a tear of happiness from his eye when he sees this! So much talking about mesh panels and finally someone else is complaining about airflow too.

@richardcrossley5581

2 жыл бұрын

He's also going to love drilling holes in the case to make it work

@mythkaz742

2 жыл бұрын

You've got to with these skyrocketing TDPs!

@Blex_040

2 жыл бұрын

Had the same thought! This video reminded me extremely of GamersNexus Steve ranting about poorly designed cases with no airflow 😂

The way to standardize this is let motherboard makers include a backplate, and then standardize how backplates are mounted into cases. Then the actual connector layout can remain proprietary, but you'd have broad case compatibility.

@pavlebn

2 жыл бұрын

T h i s

@lominero5

2 жыл бұрын

Love this idea

@michaelf.2449

2 жыл бұрын

Fuckin genius that'll solve literally all issues

@wobblysauce

2 жыл бұрын

Just use the normal motherboard stand-offs... but leave a gap around the sides, bamm everything can fit.

@gelinrefira

2 жыл бұрын

This makes a lot of fucking sense.

That what I said when I open my 2006 Mac Pro, nice to see that someone on the pc side its finally doing some thinking.

They have another model with their C500 case and it has a mesh front. I just picked it up on Prime Day for a steal as well as all the components to complete the build and finished it today. In my opinion it’s AWESOME. Would love to see Linus do a follow up review of the other kit and get his input.

OMG, Linus doing an emergency tractomy kn the case was absolutely awesome and a perfect and instantaneous demonstration of how much airflow matters

The case is so stealthy, you can't even see the airflow! Seriously though, that is a big oversight. The front should be a metal grille or something. Anyway, I'd love to see LTT team up with a case manufacturer. Imagine the designs we'd see from such a collab!

@alexdavis9324

2 жыл бұрын

Steve from gamers nexus has talked about it. Doing your own case is so much harder than it sounds. Most likely scenario would be for them to "collab" with someone already making a good case. Mostly just them putting their name on a case to endorse it.

@dralord1307

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexdavis9324 Yeah and Steve turned it down because the viewers were worried about "conflicts of interest"

@Ferrari255GTO

2 жыл бұрын

"Big oversight" Dude, you are being insanely kind to them really. Even on the early 2000's they knew not to do this

@NDKfrl

2 жыл бұрын

You can't expect Gigabyte to make a sensible product without whacking them over the head with it, repeatedly. It is simply not their way.

@Sup_D

2 жыл бұрын

It would be really wrong to call that an Big Oversight. It is an obvious fault, especially considering how many case manufacturing companies had been on fire for poor airflow, forcing them to make revised model of the case in question.

My favorite case remains the Cooler Master HAF XB EVO - a test bench style huge nearly cube-shaped full ATX compatible case. Motherboard mounts to a tray that slides in and locks in with thub screws, then hard drives and such mount in under the motherboard tray, making it super easy and clean. Also, top and both side panels are all removable for access. I don't imagine changing cases any time soon, no matter what I upgrade the insides to.

@CliffArmijo

Жыл бұрын

Thats the case that LTT used when they did a video on the Hive mind PC build. Not a huge fan of it, but I see why people buy it and what the appeal is for sure.

That drilling part made this one of my all time favorite ltt videos ever

When I saw the “No cables” thing, I instantly thought this was for the new house. I guess all the Extreme New Home Upgrade videos have conditioned me. Not that I’m complaining about this, more Linus & Jake is never a bad thing (regardless of the context).

@samlcyo2

2 жыл бұрын

What about the OF context

@japiekrekel

2 жыл бұрын

@@samlcyo2 did he stutter?

@JamesCook76131

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, not sure how taxes are in CA, but if you make a video with it, you can write it off as a business expense. So definitely makes sense why he would have a tons of videos for the new house.

@michael245

2 жыл бұрын

i thought it was a general plug in play thing where there were no cables attached to the hardware only the power supply to the mother board

@richiedeadsix

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm tired of the home upgrade videos since they arent what I am looking for on this channel, the sneakiness of trying mark up home expenses under business by making videos about it notwithstanding.

Honestly, the most frustrating thing to me was the autodownload of other software (like norton). wtf. that alone would be reason for me to send it back ASAP. Is bad enough when I compromise my system, but a 3rd party? fudge no.

@zig131

2 жыл бұрын

Gigabyte does this too but any enthusiast should be going in the BIOS before installing anyway so can easily turn off this feature.

@mtx33

2 жыл бұрын

@@zig131 feature, yeah. Preinstalled crapware is worse than forced ads imho. They sold you to Norton for a couple of cent's kickback. disgusting

@stevesteve8098

2 жыл бұрын

clearly u aint seen the adobe site yet..... every fucking download or update forces norton into the computer.

@jmanig76

2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t quite catch that part, how did it auto download things? Something in the drivers?

@TurbochargeMe

2 жыл бұрын

Asus does exactly the same thing. As soon as you install os, it auto-install armoury-crate and some a-volute crapware that you cant uninstall.

That is amazing not only it looks better for the vast majority of people now a days ( exclude me :D ) but also reduces the amount of cable that needs to be used since all the major cables are closer to the power supply

@BoraHorzaGobuchul

Жыл бұрын

The wire manufacturer cartel has just hired a hitman for you, man, be careful there!

i hope this becomes a normal thing with more case, motherboard and gpu options this is actually a brilliant idea. not having to reach deep into the case to plug thing in alone is brilliant

@BoraHorzaGobuchul

Жыл бұрын

What would be really great if they did away with multiple connectors thrown all over the boards. E.g. if pcie connectors had a few wider pins (it'd make the slot a bit longer, yes) for power, you could do away with the extra power connectors on the GPU. Same with mb, why have a separate connector for additional power of you could make it common with the main 24pin, like make say a 30-pin connector and be done with it already. A bit harder to do with RGB and coolers but sone creative thinking could solve it to, like integrating the standardized layout in the fan mount somehow. Somebody should sit down at the table and revise the ATX specs to make that happen, my whole PC is like a f*ng spaghetti factory on the cable management side, and it took lots of effort to make it look decent on the visible side.

Wow, I've been building pcs for 30 years, this just knocks my socks off. I sure hope this concept gains enough traction to go big enough to fix the issues. I already have a very expensive case the corsair 5000t in white which I absolutely love but I would chuck it in a heartbeat for a good execution of a case such as this!

@geort45

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is the PC manufacturers are super super conservative about not having "backwards compatibility", hell, damn PCI are still upside down... we still use the 24pin PSUs which were a small upgrade from the 20 pin ones which are basically ancient... sata connectors are still wired with 3.3V even tough basically no device uses that... etc

@Fossillarson

2 жыл бұрын

I sure do hope so = perfection

@scythelord

2 жыл бұрын

@@geort45 What are you going on about "PCI are upside down"? You mean graphics cards with their fans pointing down? If so, that's how they should be. The whole point of the fans being on the bottom is less dust settles on the heat sinks than it would being on the top. it's the same reason Power supplies have always been mounted fan pointing down. Keep dust and shit from falling on your heatsinks and into your components.

@jackass123455

2 жыл бұрын

@@geort45 live is not upside down it's a hold/carryover from pci and itx where the build was the motherboard flat on the bottom of the case. And your airflow was as you read a book left to right.

@davidwachtveitl7755

2 жыл бұрын

@@scythelord No, what he means is that when PCI came out the cards went in the opposite way from the ISA cards at the time. This was done to distinguish between the two.

Great concept, total failure in execution. Instead of a clean sheet, they tried "adapting" a case that was not great to begin with. Linus' rant was near-Steve at Gamers Nexus level snark (and I so want to see them get one of these). Watching you cut open the front panel was both shocking and hilarious

@houstonOLED

2 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily defending gigabyte, but it is actual very very expensive and also time consuming to make the tooling to develop a brand new case from scratch. So modifying an existing case certainly would be the move for a proof of concept. No doubt they are working on an actual case that is made for this type of stealth motherboard application and if they do…it really could be game changing for the industry. Or they will be lazy and fuck it up. One of the two :)

@limwellz

2 жыл бұрын

@@houstonOLED 13:30 lazy

Thats actually quite genius, I hope more options like this come out

ever since I saw my first clear sided case Ive been wondering about something like this, a little before actually due to Eide cables being all over the place. and there are improvements that can be done that would not only make it look cleaner on the backside, but also make it more universal and still allow for mobos to be "non-uniform" and be easier to install. also look closer at the older boards, most of the architecture was a back soldered design. they felt very spikey and you could tell where everything was and what it had by the back of the board just as easy as looking on the front.

Honestly, great job at showing restraint Linus. After seeing the garbage airflow, if I saw the automatically downloading spamware, I may have punched that PC off the desk. Thanks for showing the glaring issues that tell me never to buy from them.

@akaRAIJIN

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah its a shame, they have some great products but also some dudu. I guess thats most brands though.

@kevinwells9751

2 жыл бұрын

It's such a cool idea and looks so good on the inside, but then they had to fuck it up by taking away all of the airflow, add bloatware, and not check to see if they actually made the holes big enough for the connectors. I am excited to eventually see a case with this concept but with good execution

@connor040606

2 жыл бұрын

Such a shame for a great idea.

@JohnAdams-qc2ju

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly people might get fired for this video [people who's company said okay make this as cheap as possible and re-use stuff we have and here we'll give you half the people needed which means they couldnt hire a real designer or QA who could say this doesn't work and were forced to give a bad product and even worst the leadership who cause this issue will see this video and blame their staff and fire them when they were only doing their job and working within the limits they were provided with]. Just F^&KED up p!ss poor retarded upper mangement causing issues and then blaming the workers and firing them as an escape goat so that head of new products can go to a director meeting and push blame from himself to the lead of this case and fire them]. Overall I wish linus pointed this out because now a person (or more) will get fired and the cause/root of the issue wont be fix so overall linus is indirectly helping keep a btoken model most companies have.

One of the best videos ever! Honest to the core, even the maintanace part that all think is funny. It's important for the customer and has to work, doesn't matter if they rip it apart a few hours later, the customer has to use it for a longer time. Thanks Tech Tip Man, never change!

i would love for that in the future gpus have this kind of stealth cable managment

Classic Linus. I loved when he got so pissed he just started chopping holes in the half assed designed case. Keep it up.

Rely on Gigabyte to bring a product that looks nice and something you would want to buy, only to be massively disapointed due to some clearly obvious blindsided mistakes such as airflow.

@Killswitch1411

2 жыл бұрын

Air? What's Air?

@cookiemon420

2 жыл бұрын

@@Killswitch1411 idk man, just leave it out

Not only does it look slick, it looks more organized to me. I'm not due for a build anytime soon, but I hope this becomes more common in the future!

@HearMeLearn

2 жыл бұрын

if you watch the whole video the case is actually kind of poorly designed, so you better hope for a better attempt in the future lol

@johnmagbag2711

2 жыл бұрын

​@@HearMeLearn I think he is referring to internals

@HoloScope

2 жыл бұрын

@@HearMeLearn The concept is great, those little things are easily fixable and has more to do with bad quality control. Edit: apparently someone didn't get it, but I meant "easily fixable" from a manufacturer standpoint. These are small issues that would be easy to rectify from the manufacturer. OBVIOUSLY I would not recommend a consumer to buy something if they have to modify it to make it work as it should. USE YOUR BRAIN!

@billyeveryteen7328

2 жыл бұрын

@@HoloScope They are easily fixable, as Linus showed by just cutting a big fuck-off hole in it, but the point is that he shouldn't HAVE to drill a hole in the case. This isn't the early to mid-2000s, where enthusiast PC cases were rare and you needed to take a dremel to your case to do proper cable management or whatever. With the DIY PC market as big as it is now, you can buy a case that you shouldn't need to modify at all.

@MrKnowledge0014

2 жыл бұрын

@@billyeveryteen7328 My take away from this is Gigabyte done fucked up again.

The cables for the case front panel stuff (usb, power, etc) and the fan headers on the backside is a great idea. The case should have more space on the backside. Hope we see more of that stuff.

7:27 would've listened to him talk about that for hours. Good quote there Linus, kudos to the writers

My brother had a case that similarly had mount spots for fans on the front yet the only way for the air to flow was through a slot in the bottom. The best part was that the front panel had a design made to LOOK like it was a vent but all the "holes" were solid. It was amazing.

@mtx33

2 жыл бұрын

The solution is obvious, you only need a drill and a lot of patience. It won't be the nicest thing, but still better than nothing. :D

I have an extra big old tower case with a solid front face, has a door that opens up for a DVD expansion slot thing, and some other panel stuff. It does however have a gap in the side right next to the front to let air into the front internally. Oh yeah it also has 3 like 250mm fans, two on top (room for 3) and one on the side. That case is so large it has a 250mm or whatever fan on the side panel, and a glass panel for the motherboard! God I love that case, it was new when a 3500 Quadro FX was good lmao

Whoever edited this, I think it made it even more enjoyable 👍

Watching Linus break out the holesaw is exactly the kind of content I like to see... keep it up you Crazy Canucks!

@emerald39

2 жыл бұрын

What's the timestamp pls

@Cristobal_Hernandez

2 жыл бұрын

@@emerald39 14:05

Verge: all you need to build a computer is a Swiss Army Knife. Linus: don't forget the power tools.

@chasm9557

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot the livestrong anti static bracelet and "tweezers."

@kermeinchara4328

2 жыл бұрын

@@chasm9557 that poor guy got screwed so hard by Verge lok

@chasm9557

2 жыл бұрын

@@kermeinchara4328 I like that after his NDA was up, he did a video with LTT and gave good insight as to why it ended up that terrible. It made me go from thinking he was an arrogant fool to someone that just ended up in over their head without being given time to swim to the surface. Lots of respect for him acknowledging how bad it was and redeeming himself on LTT afterwards. It was refreshing to see someone making amends for a really large fiasco.

@LRM12o8

2 жыл бұрын

@@chasm9557 couldn't agree more! The host made up for it, he's a decent guy. But the Verge hasn't made amends yet, so we shall continue burning them!

@chasm9557

2 жыл бұрын

@@LRM12o8 I have no problem with people making mistakes so long as they learn from it and try to make restitution. I have a problem with people trying to sweep it away instead of trying to fix it. Verge swept, he fixed.

Dude... Should totally make this pissed off poetic justice thing a regular staple to the channel. It was beautiful 😍

I swear every time I see Linus pull out and flip the screwdriver(right before he uses it) it looks so awesome. On another note glad to see the waitlist for it is up, definitely getting one for myself just to pull out and flip at home lol.

Opening holes on a working computer is one of the most Linus thing you can do.

@fajaradi1223

2 жыл бұрын

And don't forget to accidentally drop it

@johnmiller2905

2 жыл бұрын

Well, the "working" part is debatable lol

@egeirmakgulseven8945

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmiller2905 it is working. Just badly.

I've always wondered why they never did things this way round, it makes WAAY more sense. Also, Linus just yoloing the front of the case with a drill XD

@bobjohnson9767

2 жыл бұрын

People didn't care about aesthetics when ATX was released.

@Brandonr757sGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobjohnson9767 This is true, plus it would require more than just standardizing TYPES of ports like ATX does; it would mean standardizing the LOCATION of ports which would be.. a massive headache

@m.syamil_KR4PU

2 жыл бұрын

apple did with the mac pro

@chaos.corner

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobjohnson9767 That and early cases were horizontal, not tower.

Really like the editing on this one. Funy

3:25.. Saul Goodman! My heart melted a little

When i saw this my first thought was: "this is a brilliant idea, can't wait for someone who isn't gigabyte to do it."

@wickedwonka999

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but let's be real. If MSI or NZXT did it, it would be just as bad on airflow.

This feels like the first authentic video in a long time. While being authentic, it also had some fun. It wasn't just non-stop BS that appears funny and just makes the whole video fluff. It's like there was real interest in the product and a real reaction to it.

@TheJubess

2 жыл бұрын

He still held back in his opinion. But it was a genuine review. James always has genuine reviews as well. Maybe thats why we don't see him that often anymore

LOOOOOL! In the beginning, I was intrigued and thought to myself "This sounds like something I'd be interested in for my next build!"... And then watching the rage intensify as things went on... Thanks to Linus for finding out so we don't have to

There is absolutely no reason for those tolerances to be so tight on the back connectors. They are already hidden, give them some slop for larger or odd shaped connectors. Nice engineering sample. And most anti-virus programs uninstall like malware. It's not right. Screw Gigabyte.

@amunak_

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and it could even be a standard feature of every case. Just make a hole behind the motherboard with supports only for the standoff screws. Boom, anyone can now make a motherboard with connectors on the opposite side at any place that's not in line with a standoff screw. If you are worried about smaller form factors looking bad with holes beneath them you could provide a sheet metal (or even plastic) to plug the holes with.

@jan-lukas

2 жыл бұрын

Anti-virus and virus aren't always that different. Actually most times they're basically the same

@dooder126

2 жыл бұрын

Oooh he must be an insider. He said engineering sample 😮

Yo linus, when using a hole saw, set the "clutch" on the drill lower so that it doesn't catch so hard when the blades hit. Took me a while to learn that lesson too lol!

@NavyMitchell

2 жыл бұрын

This makes so much sense. How have I never heard this? I work in construction......

@Yahyaa2009

2 жыл бұрын

finding the right setting for torgue is a bitch though...

@cncgeneral

2 жыл бұрын

But then it stops cutting and makes and annoying clicking noise. Just hold it properly

@leviathanx0815

2 жыл бұрын

I kinda waited for the big bang...Jake was understandably not looking happy... I mean, I myself took, on the same day, an 18V Makita battery pack twice to the face and almost twisted my wrist before one of the shots just because that stupid hole saw caught itself. I can take a good punch usually, but that made me sit for a few minutes, tbh. Next thing I did was purchasing a drill with auto-clutch-release upon being stuck.

@FAQUERETERMAX

2 жыл бұрын

This is so helpful, why didn't I know this?