When to change brake discs - how to measure brake disc thickness
When to change brake discs - how to measure brake disc thickness
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@johncowan91063 жыл бұрын
Speaking as a retired machinist, it’s so nice to see someone using a VERNIER caliper. I still have my first one. It’s a Helios, and it is marked “Hardened throughout, West Germany”. I still use it, although I own a digital and a dial caliper.
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
thank you for your comment
@muhammadshoaib30053 жыл бұрын
thanks, the best explanation I ever had
@Jackie-wc7xk2 жыл бұрын
Out of the other videos trying to understand what to look for in a worn out rotor, this was the very best and informative! Thank you!
@simonbone Жыл бұрын
You can also put coins on the disk surfaces, measure the thickness, then put the two coins together and measure their total thickness. Subtract that from the first value, and you know how thick the brake disk is.
@rayc15033 жыл бұрын
Thank-you, brilliant clear and concise information. Now I know exactly what to measure on my M5 brake discs 👌
@richardautenzio81172 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Very descriptive and informative. One of the best professional videos I have ever seen on car maintenance. Thank you very much for your time and information. I will try and search out other videos if you have them.
@PabloGonzalez-io6pq4 жыл бұрын
Great video! You make look very simple, which I actually think it is. But at the same time, you go beyond a simple measurement and take the grooves into account. Thanks for that!!
@johndav52303 жыл бұрын
Very good explaination. Nice to hear a SA accent.
@ScottPC Жыл бұрын
One of the best videos for measuring. Good techniques.
@mankgabanemantlaneni24382 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a good explanation,Mankgabane from South Africa
@fridgemagnet9831 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative video, nice to see south african youtubers
@bliking45732 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This has been one of the best and most concise explanations I've seen 🤓
@DM-hp7ct Жыл бұрын
A wonderfully detailed and clear explanation. From England. Thank you.
@alljoy65414 жыл бұрын
Hi, I put febi bilstein brake disks and ATE brake pads on my Suzuki Swift last year. There was nothing wrong with the measurement , there was still lots of pad and disk thickness, but it was making a slight noise every now and then, when I had them checked at the dealer , they said it was fine, but it was a little scorched looking. They said 70% pad life still left OEM. Anyway I decided to replace both. I recently flushed/ bled my brakes using your Mazda video as a reference, it made a huge difference as my brake fluid was more the 6 years old, now the car is awesome to drive. I did a full tune up. Thank you for the videos, I learn a lot.
@ecologicaltime
4 жыл бұрын
Hi All Joy, thanks for sharing. Interesting. i have had that too when the brake piston gets stuck as the brake fluid mixed with dust becomes powdery (very old) and the piston does not retract back and almost stays pressing on the disk. Gets hot and noisy. Thanks for your comment.
@gutierreza693 жыл бұрын
“INDEED EXCELLENT EXPLANATION”! 👍🏼
@JohnJones-rx9vc4 жыл бұрын
Great video.thank you so much!please upload more informative videos sir! Detailed and clear!thumbs up!👍
@gscranage45944 жыл бұрын
Even with the South African accent I understood every word. I would say your knowledge base is equivalent to semi-pro. Good job my man!!!
@thesoullessmechanic63502 жыл бұрын
Great job, you made a very professional and well made video.
@screwsnutsandbolts3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video !
@jorgevasquez-lz4be2 жыл бұрын
Very professional explanation!! thank you!!
@sund5Ай бұрын
Very very nice video. Very well explained! :-)
@yaseenabrahams497911 ай бұрын
I have learnt so much already and to pay more attention, thank you sir
@garyfrankel94572 жыл бұрын
Excellent Photography and explanation !
@tn57d45123 жыл бұрын
Very well explained, thanks a lot!
@KJ-yk4nq3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video very clear and easy to follow
@rondhole4 жыл бұрын
Thank you man, excellent video and really good information. I had same experience, my brake works fine in most cases until I brake hard in emergency at 80 mph in the interstate from an accident ahead. It vibrate like hell but nice and smooth at regular braking.
@georgecroney6168
2 жыл бұрын
The reason for the vibration is your car has ABS. Anti lock. In the old days if you slammed your brake son they would lock, and your wheels would skid like on a bicycle. ABS uses a high pressure pump that many many times a second triggers on and off. When you're braking hard your wheels will skid slightly, the ABS module will reduce brake pressure and allow the wheel to roll for a split second, when grip is regained it will trigger your brakes back on. This can happen over and over until you come to a stop, hence the vibration.
@BruceMarkos3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing!
@iainatkinson9239 Жыл бұрын
Super video never knew what the pointy end of the vernier gauge did until today
@mattmacdermott62093 жыл бұрын
Cracking Video mate, clear and concise, top drawer.
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@woobRobbo2 жыл бұрын
This is the canonical video for this question - thank you for making it
@michaelszekunda64353 жыл бұрын
Well done, lessons well taught
@alijuratli3 ай бұрын
Very detailed and great explaining video, thank you
@manixpc3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Another way you can compensate for the disc lip is by using two thick coins. Measure the thickness with the coins on either side of the disc and then zero out or subtract the thickness of the two coins stacked together to get a more accurate thickness of the actual disc.
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@Marcesko
2 жыл бұрын
20000 IQ
@georgecroney6168
2 жыл бұрын
I keep 2 coins in the case of my verniers for this very reason
@radgym27814 жыл бұрын
Great detailed info 👍
@bijnor672 жыл бұрын
You are a genius.
@smamas11411 ай бұрын
Nice video , thanks !! I have learned good things today 💪
@jimjanke34154 жыл бұрын
Very very good! Simple clear information I never knew and wondered about.
@marcuslee32562 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you!
@sharkfinn6469 Жыл бұрын
Golden info. Thank you
@michaell37113 жыл бұрын
Great video... Thanks much
@ibo11373 жыл бұрын
Very great guide!
@gasgiant71223 жыл бұрын
Greetings from UK Great informative tutorial video, lovely SA accent?
@enforcementofficer48023 жыл бұрын
Great video, so clear and love the accent (South African?) - thank you for making this, helped me out :)
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
thanks yes SA
@user-ej4bt6lo9t5 ай бұрын
Outstanding video
@Ali-xt2ex4 жыл бұрын
nice video thanks
@Fear_Not_I_Is_Here3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@fredseibel29543 жыл бұрын
Good information clearly explained.
@babar1413 жыл бұрын
What's it like driving with the wheels spacer?
@muhammedk96483 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for the vid. Won't the Guages used for the spark plug gap help measuring the thickness of the lip?
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
yeah great tip! thanks
@deyvidaleksandrov52763 жыл бұрын
i change rear brake pads and now when i press the brake little bit is making so much noise is it from the brake pads quality?
@UcranianoUKR3 жыл бұрын
Best thing you can do is invest in the tools and learn how to replace pads and rotors yourself. The cost of new rotors and pads aren't very high, most times you're paying for the labour.
@GG-eg6kn
2 жыл бұрын
£500 for Audi discs and pads.. £320 with discount.
@georgecroney6168
2 жыл бұрын
@@GG-eg6kn you're getting scammed, apply lube next time you go to get your brakes done, it won't hurt as much
@disturbator2 ай бұрын
Hello from croatia. Mine is at 26.2 thickness, and minimum is 26.4. Is it ok to use one more brake pads on it ?
@kennymacm3031 Жыл бұрын
I found my pads starting to scrape at the weekend I reckon I'll just change the rotors as well. I just bought it recently and as I intend to keep it for a while there's no point in skimping.
@georgeabraham42852 жыл бұрын
Dankie meneer..
@BlackGold80 Жыл бұрын
Great video and well said explanation 👍🏻
@PaulMcLove2 жыл бұрын
Super‼️ 👍😉😀
@JohnJones-rx9vc4 жыл бұрын
Hi,it is great video,i just have a question.did you measure two different disc rotor? First one was 22mm and then suddenly it went to 28 mm?is it different car? Sorry maybe i missed some clip!
@ecologicaltime
4 жыл бұрын
thank you, yes one was front and one was back.
@riteshm224911 ай бұрын
Why there was smoke coming in Skoda Superb the disc was not even and we put the new brake pads?
@marsy14802 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@keisham2 жыл бұрын
very detailed and clear explanation. thanks👍
@niclasbergqvist173710 ай бұрын
Very well and pedagogically described. Can the discs be used even if they exceed the minimum size? -Yes if you don't drive advanced to pick up the kids from school or drive in the mountains like a hillbilly on meth. A thin brake disc overheats faster. Drive normally and you can probably wait a little longer for the change. It is a matter of judgement.
@devinjohnson45073 жыл бұрын
I hear a saffa, I up vote!
@akiffirdausi68873 жыл бұрын
My left brake pad finished, and now my left disc is damaged 😭 should have changed the pads earlier 😢
@ariesmight69784 жыл бұрын
On a percentage of vehicals. The rim is bolted to the hub. Not resting on lugs so my challenge and question is. Can you check the rotor thickness. Without taking off the rim?
@ecologicaltime
4 жыл бұрын
i have not seen that but on motorbikes i have. If there is space between the spokes then i suppose you could measure, but proper inspection requires the person to feel the surface of the entire disk face and inspect it looking for surface imperfections as well so i would say take of the rim.
@ariesmight6978
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you @@ecologicaltime for replying.
@gasgiant7122
3 жыл бұрын
Fucking pointless question, Wtf?
@user-qz6ix7od3b3 жыл бұрын
6:50 so 29.6mm was somewhere near the "new" state of the disc. let's say it was 30.0mm new. substracting from there the 28.4mm minimum requirement, that would mean accounting for both sides of the disc, the max wear would be something like 0.8mm per side ? that's a pretty small amount that you are allowed to wear the disc out, no? if some cars have 1.5mm lip on one side that's about double the "life" expectancy on this one that you checked 3:10 and looking back to the first set you checked, min=22.4, i guess new=25.0mm(rounding up from the 24.8 you measured). so actually the accepted wear on these is 2.6mm, 1.3mm/side. this disc is thinner but has more "life" in it than the first one?? really weird...... also, for heat dissipation purposes, just as you said, would we not actually have thicker discs on the front? in your case the thicker ones were on the back. again...weird
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the analytics
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
thanks, the thicker ones are on the front. The amount of wear is only a little but people let their discs get much more worn than the manufacturer recommend.
@exk62 жыл бұрын
Love the ubiquitous background doves!
@markrodgers19652 жыл бұрын
Could not find the specs on the rotors
@BOBBY-et9xb3 ай бұрын
Why bang door if it is comfort access. Just needs a touch to make contact.
@ElectricalNoises2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: Don't put your head under the tire when fitting the trestle.
@smamas11411 ай бұрын
I went to service and they told me to change front brake disks and all the arms because i have a vibration in the steering wheel when braking, i think they don't know where's the problem 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@Theorangeman. Жыл бұрын
Micrometer would be the better tool
@The_Joker_2 жыл бұрын
Micrometer required
@BassManBobBassCovers Жыл бұрын
The lip on my rotor is probably 3-4 mils 😬
@puneethkumar28292 жыл бұрын
You could have used screw gauge.
@rob-123 Жыл бұрын
To be honest having worked in the motor trade I never ever once saw a disk skimmed. Flywheels all the time but never the brakes! It's so cheap to change the Disks it never worked out worth it and the biggest problem is the time and transport to a machine shop and how busy they were never out weight the costs!
@m_a_s60692 күн бұрын
Why don't you use the correct tool to measure the disc? There are calipers with "C" shape jaws and there are micrometers, often shaped like c-clamps.
@georgeabraham42852 жыл бұрын
Yay... Renault!!
@benghoechan70973 ай бұрын
use a micrometer to measure.
@MrLaloman183 жыл бұрын
What you all really need is a "Vinca DRGA-0605 Electronic Digital Brake Disc Rotor Gauge Caliper measuring tool"... Worth every penny, the highest quality by a top brand and it will last you a lifetime! Is the only one with 2 external jaws (claw type) the measures your discs from the sides withing and not the edges... No more need for all these Micky Mouse tricks as its a much accuracy tool and time saver! A MUST FOR ALL BMW OWNERS that do their own sh*t...
@m30sleic3 жыл бұрын
hade being scammed buy mechanics, worse when times are very hard
@willeamblignaut29042 жыл бұрын
Lol the disc have a wear indicator
@nemod33383 жыл бұрын
Vernier is not build for purpose in this case. Get yourself Micrometer. It will take calculator sorcery away. Plus you do not know how correctly to use Vernier. It was exactly 0.54 mm at 4:06.
@gasgiant7122
3 жыл бұрын
There's always one isn't there.🤐
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
true
@MichelleLove-cn1ly10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much❤. Im a woman and needed this info. How do you keep it from rust?
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Speaking as a retired machinist, it’s so nice to see someone using a VERNIER caliper. I still have my first one. It’s a Helios, and it is marked “Hardened throughout, West Germany”. I still use it, although I own a digital and a dial caliper.
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
thank you for your comment
thanks, the best explanation I ever had
Out of the other videos trying to understand what to look for in a worn out rotor, this was the very best and informative! Thank you!
You can also put coins on the disk surfaces, measure the thickness, then put the two coins together and measure their total thickness. Subtract that from the first value, and you know how thick the brake disk is.
Thank-you, brilliant clear and concise information. Now I know exactly what to measure on my M5 brake discs 👌
Excellent! Very descriptive and informative. One of the best professional videos I have ever seen on car maintenance. Thank you very much for your time and information. I will try and search out other videos if you have them.
Great video! You make look very simple, which I actually think it is. But at the same time, you go beyond a simple measurement and take the grooves into account. Thanks for that!!
Very good explaination. Nice to hear a SA accent.
One of the best videos for measuring. Good techniques.
Thanks for a good explanation,Mankgabane from South Africa
Thanks for the very informative video, nice to see south african youtubers
Thank you! This has been one of the best and most concise explanations I've seen 🤓
A wonderfully detailed and clear explanation. From England. Thank you.
Hi, I put febi bilstein brake disks and ATE brake pads on my Suzuki Swift last year. There was nothing wrong with the measurement , there was still lots of pad and disk thickness, but it was making a slight noise every now and then, when I had them checked at the dealer , they said it was fine, but it was a little scorched looking. They said 70% pad life still left OEM. Anyway I decided to replace both. I recently flushed/ bled my brakes using your Mazda video as a reference, it made a huge difference as my brake fluid was more the 6 years old, now the car is awesome to drive. I did a full tune up. Thank you for the videos, I learn a lot.
@ecologicaltime
4 жыл бұрын
Hi All Joy, thanks for sharing. Interesting. i have had that too when the brake piston gets stuck as the brake fluid mixed with dust becomes powdery (very old) and the piston does not retract back and almost stays pressing on the disk. Gets hot and noisy. Thanks for your comment.
“INDEED EXCELLENT EXPLANATION”! 👍🏼
Great video.thank you so much!please upload more informative videos sir! Detailed and clear!thumbs up!👍
Even with the South African accent I understood every word. I would say your knowledge base is equivalent to semi-pro. Good job my man!!!
Great job, you made a very professional and well made video.
Excellent video !
Very professional explanation!! thank you!!
Very very nice video. Very well explained! :-)
I have learnt so much already and to pay more attention, thank you sir
Excellent Photography and explanation !
Very well explained, thanks a lot!
Excellent video very clear and easy to follow
Thank you man, excellent video and really good information. I had same experience, my brake works fine in most cases until I brake hard in emergency at 80 mph in the interstate from an accident ahead. It vibrate like hell but nice and smooth at regular braking.
@georgecroney6168
2 жыл бұрын
The reason for the vibration is your car has ABS. Anti lock. In the old days if you slammed your brake son they would lock, and your wheels would skid like on a bicycle. ABS uses a high pressure pump that many many times a second triggers on and off. When you're braking hard your wheels will skid slightly, the ABS module will reduce brake pressure and allow the wheel to roll for a split second, when grip is regained it will trigger your brakes back on. This can happen over and over until you come to a stop, hence the vibration.
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing!
Super video never knew what the pointy end of the vernier gauge did until today
Cracking Video mate, clear and concise, top drawer.
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
This is the canonical video for this question - thank you for making it
Well done, lessons well taught
Very detailed and great explaining video, thank you
Great video. Another way you can compensate for the disc lip is by using two thick coins. Measure the thickness with the coins on either side of the disc and then zero out or subtract the thickness of the two coins stacked together to get a more accurate thickness of the actual disc.
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@Marcesko
2 жыл бұрын
20000 IQ
@georgecroney6168
2 жыл бұрын
I keep 2 coins in the case of my verniers for this very reason
Great detailed info 👍
You are a genius.
Nice video , thanks !! I have learned good things today 💪
Very very good! Simple clear information I never knew and wondered about.
Great video, thank you!
Golden info. Thank you
Great video... Thanks much
Very great guide!
Greetings from UK Great informative tutorial video, lovely SA accent?
Great video, so clear and love the accent (South African?) - thank you for making this, helped me out :)
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
thanks yes SA
Outstanding video
nice video thanks
Awesome video
Good information clearly explained.
What's it like driving with the wheels spacer?
Hi. Thanks for the vid. Won't the Guages used for the spark plug gap help measuring the thickness of the lip?
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
yeah great tip! thanks
i change rear brake pads and now when i press the brake little bit is making so much noise is it from the brake pads quality?
Best thing you can do is invest in the tools and learn how to replace pads and rotors yourself. The cost of new rotors and pads aren't very high, most times you're paying for the labour.
@GG-eg6kn
2 жыл бұрын
£500 for Audi discs and pads.. £320 with discount.
@georgecroney6168
2 жыл бұрын
@@GG-eg6kn you're getting scammed, apply lube next time you go to get your brakes done, it won't hurt as much
Hello from croatia. Mine is at 26.2 thickness, and minimum is 26.4. Is it ok to use one more brake pads on it ?
I found my pads starting to scrape at the weekend I reckon I'll just change the rotors as well. I just bought it recently and as I intend to keep it for a while there's no point in skimping.
Dankie meneer..
Great video and well said explanation 👍🏻
Super‼️ 👍😉😀
Hi,it is great video,i just have a question.did you measure two different disc rotor? First one was 22mm and then suddenly it went to 28 mm?is it different car? Sorry maybe i missed some clip!
@ecologicaltime
4 жыл бұрын
thank you, yes one was front and one was back.
Why there was smoke coming in Skoda Superb the disc was not even and we put the new brake pads?
Excellent
very detailed and clear explanation. thanks👍
Very well and pedagogically described. Can the discs be used even if they exceed the minimum size? -Yes if you don't drive advanced to pick up the kids from school or drive in the mountains like a hillbilly on meth. A thin brake disc overheats faster. Drive normally and you can probably wait a little longer for the change. It is a matter of judgement.
I hear a saffa, I up vote!
My left brake pad finished, and now my left disc is damaged 😭 should have changed the pads earlier 😢
On a percentage of vehicals. The rim is bolted to the hub. Not resting on lugs so my challenge and question is. Can you check the rotor thickness. Without taking off the rim?
@ecologicaltime
4 жыл бұрын
i have not seen that but on motorbikes i have. If there is space between the spokes then i suppose you could measure, but proper inspection requires the person to feel the surface of the entire disk face and inspect it looking for surface imperfections as well so i would say take of the rim.
@ariesmight6978
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you @@ecologicaltime for replying.
@gasgiant7122
3 жыл бұрын
Fucking pointless question, Wtf?
6:50 so 29.6mm was somewhere near the "new" state of the disc. let's say it was 30.0mm new. substracting from there the 28.4mm minimum requirement, that would mean accounting for both sides of the disc, the max wear would be something like 0.8mm per side ? that's a pretty small amount that you are allowed to wear the disc out, no? if some cars have 1.5mm lip on one side that's about double the "life" expectancy on this one that you checked 3:10 and looking back to the first set you checked, min=22.4, i guess new=25.0mm(rounding up from the 24.8 you measured). so actually the accepted wear on these is 2.6mm, 1.3mm/side. this disc is thinner but has more "life" in it than the first one?? really weird...... also, for heat dissipation purposes, just as you said, would we not actually have thicker discs on the front? in your case the thicker ones were on the back. again...weird
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the analytics
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
thanks, the thicker ones are on the front. The amount of wear is only a little but people let their discs get much more worn than the manufacturer recommend.
Love the ubiquitous background doves!
Could not find the specs on the rotors
Why bang door if it is comfort access. Just needs a touch to make contact.
Pro tip: Don't put your head under the tire when fitting the trestle.
I went to service and they told me to change front brake disks and all the arms because i have a vibration in the steering wheel when braking, i think they don't know where's the problem 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Micrometer would be the better tool
Micrometer required
The lip on my rotor is probably 3-4 mils 😬
You could have used screw gauge.
To be honest having worked in the motor trade I never ever once saw a disk skimmed. Flywheels all the time but never the brakes! It's so cheap to change the Disks it never worked out worth it and the biggest problem is the time and transport to a machine shop and how busy they were never out weight the costs!
Why don't you use the correct tool to measure the disc? There are calipers with "C" shape jaws and there are micrometers, often shaped like c-clamps.
Yay... Renault!!
use a micrometer to measure.
What you all really need is a "Vinca DRGA-0605 Electronic Digital Brake Disc Rotor Gauge Caliper measuring tool"... Worth every penny, the highest quality by a top brand and it will last you a lifetime! Is the only one with 2 external jaws (claw type) the measures your discs from the sides withing and not the edges... No more need for all these Micky Mouse tricks as its a much accuracy tool and time saver! A MUST FOR ALL BMW OWNERS that do their own sh*t...
hade being scammed buy mechanics, worse when times are very hard
Lol the disc have a wear indicator
Vernier is not build for purpose in this case. Get yourself Micrometer. It will take calculator sorcery away. Plus you do not know how correctly to use Vernier. It was exactly 0.54 mm at 4:06.
@gasgiant7122
3 жыл бұрын
There's always one isn't there.🤐
@ecologicaltime
3 жыл бұрын
true
Thank you so much❤. Im a woman and needed this info. How do you keep it from rust?
Very well explained. Thanks!
Excellent video!