When The "Combat Wombat" Became An Apex Predator
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In Australia, evolution built a family of deadly predators by taking a group of cute, harmless herbivores and turning them murderous.
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I’d argue Quinkana is the most underrated Australian carnivore, people always talk about Thylacoleo and Megalania but never the massive galloping land crocodile Quinkana that was equal in size with megalania and probably even more deadly.
@omage3457
Жыл бұрын
I hard agree here
@jarlborg1531
Жыл бұрын
Everybody's gangster til the crocs start galloping.
@user-lq4ct6dr5m
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the giant boa that hunts the croc as well
@mattrush8005
Жыл бұрын
They did one on it 3 years ago I’m pretty sure.
@Zabi-S
Жыл бұрын
Quinkana, Megalania and Thylacoleo all filled different predatory niches. Thylacoleo = ambush hunter Quinkana = pursuit hunter Megalania = apex hunter
A killer wombat seems as absurd as a murderous panda, but there it is.
@archangel_one
Жыл бұрын
BEWARE the DROP BEARS!
@brooklyna007
Жыл бұрын
Murderous Panda = Grizzly Bear. Bears are Carnivorans (the evolutionary order). Pandas are the herbivorous exception in that order.
@sirderpymister4883
Жыл бұрын
Aren’t murderous pandas just a roundabout term for bears?
@archangel_one
Жыл бұрын
@@sirderpymister4883 Someone's been watching Kung Fu Panda
@indyreno2933
Жыл бұрын
Marsupial lions are actually more primitive than any living diprotodont.
PBS: "Thylacoleo Carnifex was an apex predator." Me, who's been through the redwoods biome on foot: "Ah yes. The ol' death-from-above, combat wombat."
@MickHaggs
Жыл бұрын
Going on foot is better than going through the redwood in the air. *Casually flying* *And now I'm falling to the ground from a great height while simultaneously having my face clawed off* They're great mounts though
@HairyNumbNuts
Жыл бұрын
Drop bears are supposed to be a legend. So, there really used to be one.
@bronhaller
Жыл бұрын
@@HairyNumbNuts yup. I maintain that the drop bear story comes from Indigenous people having to deal with them and passing down the lore
@sebcw1204
Жыл бұрын
not to be confused with the purlovia "death from below badger tank"
@leobuana7430
Жыл бұрын
@@bronhaller is that Australian cryptid legend ?
I love puzzling out the meanings of these names and this is a great one. Thylac: pouched Oleo: a type of margarine What we're looking at here is the first marsupial butter substitute.
@DunnoJustLuckyIGuess
Жыл бұрын
"I can't believe it's not a pouched mammal!"
@_Opal_Miner_
Жыл бұрын
"I c an't believe it's not bit me"
@sableempire9654
Жыл бұрын
😂
@samuelaraujomedeiros6682
Жыл бұрын
Leo means lion. Thylaco probably means pouched. And carnifex is, of course, that pistol from the Mass Effect series.
@chanshengsupremacy8889
Жыл бұрын
Leo generally refers to all cats not just lions
While the direct translation may be "Meat Cutting", the word *Carnifex* is actually Latin for "Executioner".
@MossyMozart
Жыл бұрын
@ninthRing - Even more appropriate!
@JubioHDX
Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool taxonomic name, basically "the pouched lion executioner", gotta be the most badass marsupial in name at least. Wish we still had these guys in australia to continue to round out their ridiculous native fauna
Do you think you can do a video on the therizinosaurs? A family of dinosaurs that did the opposite, going from carnivore to herbivore.
@stephaniehight2771
Жыл бұрын
As the most primitive of dinosaurs appear to all be carnivores or omnivores, all of your major dinosaur herbivores evolved from meat eaters.
@hyperswag506
Жыл бұрын
The ones with the crazy long claws. Also… pandas went through the same thing. Bears turning herbivorous.
@marisoldavis3357
Жыл бұрын
Please make a video of the hulitherium tomasetti aka marsupial panda it live in New Guinea .
@patriotenfield3276
Жыл бұрын
It became vegan.
@debopriyokar4921
Жыл бұрын
NO WAY I JUST WATCHED THEIR THERIZINOSAURS VIDEO
So maybe not so far-fetched for koala bears to evolve into the mythical drop bear?
@madcow3417
Жыл бұрын
Mythical?!? My best friend was murdered by a drop bear! This was in Texas, and there were no other witnesses, but that's the story I'm sticking with.
@unicornfoal
Жыл бұрын
The whole reason the 'drop bear' story came about is because people like you keep calling koalas "koala bears" when they aren't bears. They're koalas.
@indyreno2933
Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as a koala bear, they're just called koalas, koalas are diprotodonts, while bears are carnivorans.
@sydhenderson6753
Жыл бұрын
Drop bears are the surviving apex predator.
@Primalxbeast
Жыл бұрын
@@unicornfoal I'm not going to stop calling sea horses sea horses just because they're fish.
Australian megafauna is extremely underrated tbh
@kenattwood8060
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I would like to see more on this topic.
@MuertaRara
Жыл бұрын
yes! it is so hard to find decent videos and books to that topic
It still feels somewhat missing without the name of 'Steve' to round up the patreon names. With the crazy 2+ years we have seen, I hope Steve is still doing well somewhere on this planet.
@chrisgames5201
Жыл бұрын
Agreed Steve was my favorite
@petrovtiganu9904
Жыл бұрын
Where is steve?
@AS-fi7hc
Жыл бұрын
I know!!! I think of him at the end of every video, hope he’s doing alright
@shaider1982
Жыл бұрын
Nice to know I wasn't the only one missing him.
@MossyMozart
Жыл бұрын
@@AS-fi7hc - I know what you mean. I always mentally add his name at the end of every video.
I like to think stories of ‘Drop Bears’ are really just some kind of cultural memory of thylacoleo
@julesmasseffectmusic
10 ай бұрын
Thycaleo can't look up. Bad for a tree climber. The aboriginal in North QLD still have oral history about them. Must been scary if 10,000 years later the story is still around.
My money's on the koala being the next apex predator. They always seemed a little shifty to me.
@khajiitkitten5679
Жыл бұрын
I don't think that will happen, as apparently the eucalyptus leaves that are their exclusive diet have a natural soporific in them--the little guys are always stoned.
@edwardfletcher7790
Жыл бұрын
Never heard of Drop Bears ? LoL
@monticore1626
3 ай бұрын
@@khajiitkitten5679that’s why they haven’t killed us yet, if they sobered up we would be in big trouble
Imagine a lion approaches you and bares his teeth. And it has teeth like a cartoon squirrel. That would immediately take tension out of the situation.
@robinliesens7983
Жыл бұрын
I don't know, man. If a rat was the size of a leopard I'm quite sure nobody would laugh if it came at them.
@geekyprojects1353
Жыл бұрын
@@robinliesens7983 Who knows? When a dictator looks like Winnie the Pooh people still do laugh.
@IchhabezuvielYoutubegegucktO_o
Жыл бұрын
@@geekyprojects1353 Just on the Internet, not if they are standing infront of him and being at his mercy
@rbb9753
Жыл бұрын
Momentarily
@Primalxbeast
Жыл бұрын
Beavers easily chew through trees. Rodent like teeth on a large carnivore wouldn't be something I would take lightly.
Wombats are not entirely small or harmless. They look cute but their muscle density is insane, they are basically a ball of solid steel and have been known to occasionally crash cars that drive over them and aren't afraid to stand up for themselves.
I love seeing interesting marsupials. For some reason I've never managed to grasp, it's fascinating to see a marsupial face -- so often a somewhat silly or cute vaguely antelope/mouse-deer-shaped face -- with gaping jaws and sharp teeth. It's just not something we're used to seeing -- a scary marsupial. Fascinating stuff!
@indridcold8433
Жыл бұрын
The North American opossum looks rather fierce close up. From a distance, it does look like a large rat. Get up close and it is not Mickey anymore.
@jcortese3300
Жыл бұрын
@@indridcold8433 Agreed -- I remember hearing someone online say how cute possums were and thinking, "Are you out of your mind?" It transpired they were in Australia, where they are kind of cuddly looking. Up here, you're absolutely right -- giant nightmare rats.
@asmith8692
Жыл бұрын
Tasmanian devils are also marsupials, so we still have some scary marsupials. Though, mind you, one of the scariest is the red kangaroo, which is capable of killing you with a kick. My parents were part of a tour group where the guides were attempting to keep a tourist away from kangaroos. Unfortunately they were calling him by the wrong name.
@tijanamilenkovic9442
Жыл бұрын
@@asmith8692 Imagine if kangaroos became apex predators what they would look like, what would they eat and the niche of which animals would fulfill maybe that predatory kangaroo would be a mix of a kangaroo, pangolin and wolverine and would be quadrupedal and would probably hunt a variety of prey and would be an ambush predator what do you think about it?
All of the extant and extinct marsupial carnivores are fascinating. Thylacoleo had some truly bizarre anatomy, such as a forelimb bone structure that doesn't seem to exist in any other animal. Also, thylacines (a.k.a. Tassie tigers) looked very dog-like, but when startled they would hop away at high speed on their hind legs, exactly like a kangaroo. I will always be angry at my Aussie ancestors for wiping out the Tassie tiger.
@powerbreed
Жыл бұрын
From the moment humans got here they started killing off species and will continue to do so for our entire existence.
@thecorlorlesspig1993
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see them jump on their hind legs
This is why I was relieved when they discovered that Bonnethead Sharks are deliberate omnivores. I wondered how such a successful group could have been around so long without some using all the resources at hand.
Along with the fascinating Thylacoleo, I was intrigued by the word "fell" as an adjective, which I had never seen before. According to Wiktionary, it means "Of a strong and cruel nature; eager and unsparing; grim; fierce; ruthless; savage" and derives from a Proto-Germanic adjective *faluz. The English word has cognates in a few other modern Germanic languages, but otherwise, parallel to many of the fantastic prehistoric animals of Australia, it seems to have mostly died out. The processes of biological and linguistic evolution are often surprisingly similar.
@paulc7143
Жыл бұрын
Still survives in the phrase "one fell swoop" but that's about the only continued usage
@kylemackinnon5696
Жыл бұрын
"Fell Beast" is a term ive seen in books a lot
@PurpleShift42
11 ай бұрын
@@kylemackinnon5696 especially fantasy fiction, haha
“Typical Australia”
@AspireGMD
Жыл бұрын
Most accurate quote in human history.
@mikebauer6917
Жыл бұрын
Weird, extreme and dangerous? Checks out.
@leeleaman8057
Жыл бұрын
@@mikebauer6917 and wonderful!
@____________838
Жыл бұрын
“Peak Australia”
@t1bzy
Жыл бұрын
I wanted to take offence at that statement but realised I had just chased off a Western Brown Snake. 😐
When I was a kid I discovered a book on Australian megafauna in the school library. It was the first time I'd ever encountered the concept and after the initial moment of my mind being blown I was absolutely enchanted. They felt tangible in a way that dinosaurs weren't because I had seen the smaller, distant relatives of so many of the animals pictured. To this day I still think megafauna are way underrated.
I can't get over how that one rendering of Thylacoleo completely captures that one Australian expression. 0:47 Look at 'em. It's as if they're crying out from ancient times "aaaaye **** what the **** are you doin' you dog ****"
One of my favorite prehistoric Mammals from Australia.
@Cornexium
Жыл бұрын
Not a wide category for sure but still nice
@kenattwood8060
Жыл бұрын
@@Cornexium If you were to take an in-depth look at the Australian fossil record then you might possibly change your mind on the category size.
@Cornexium
Жыл бұрын
@@kenattwood8060 Australian fossil record is indeed big especially for more recent megafauna however you gotta put it into context. How much does prehistoric Australian mammals make up of the general species diversity of prehistoric Earth starting from the evolution of proto-mammals?
@Zabi-S
Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite prehistoric mammals, PERIOD.
@kenattwood8060
Жыл бұрын
@@Cornexium This is actually irrelevant as prehistoric Australian fossils make up 100% of the general species diversity of prehistoric Australia.... We are discussing localised evolution after all.
I'd LOVE if we discover that Thylacoleo also pooped dices
@edwardfletcher7790
Жыл бұрын
They were hypercarnivores. Wombats are herbivores. Carnivorous animals do really nasty poos.
I've seen a cave painting of Thylacoleo in Arnhem Land in the Northern Territory. But it was on a sacred site that has little scientific investigation. There was also paintings of war between Aboriginal tribes. The area/cave has been continually inhabited for ~60,000 years.
@michaelwilliams3232
Жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that aboriginal peoples only drew what they saw so it would be useful to know how old the paintings were reckoned to be.
@blixten2928
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I've heard that Australian rock paintings show several extinct species. They are also beautiful, by the way.
@NoTaboos
Жыл бұрын
@@blixten2928 Yes; the aborigines caused a hell of a lot of extinctions.
@mehere8038
Жыл бұрын
the origins of the "drop bear" stories appears to be Aboriginal stories of the Thylacoeo hunting. Same with Yowies & Bunyips & all the rest - Aboriginal stories of real creatures now extinct, picked up on by whites
@carmen.eve.2033
Жыл бұрын
@@NoTaboos as have all humans. Also, that term is a slur. I understand you may not have known this but please try not to use it in future 😊
I love how certain niches get filled regardless of class of organism.
Having a wombat ancestor developing into an apex predator is just like the finches discovered by Darwin which evolved into predators. As for the next apex predator in Australia, currently it's a creature know as homo sapiens.
@patrickmccurry1563
Жыл бұрын
Or that one finch Darwin missed that drinks blood. The vampire ground finch. Not kidding.
@stuartaaron613
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmccurry1563 I heard of that one as well. Evolution can produce some wild creatures, and plants.
@dracodracarys2339
Жыл бұрын
no it's the platypus
@chonqmonk
Жыл бұрын
I have several wombat relatives myself.
@duskpede5146
Жыл бұрын
nah its cats and foxes
I wish Thylacoleo hadn't gone extinct, yet at the same time, I realize how terrifying they would have been if they survived to modern times.
@sizanogreen9900
Жыл бұрын
just imagine... real *combat wombats*
@thealmightyaku-4153
Жыл бұрын
I can only imagine there'd be a few Thylacoleo heads mounted on English parlour walls.
@VioletEnds
Жыл бұрын
@@sizanogreen9900 real drop bears lol
@liammurphy2725
Жыл бұрын
'I wish' and 'if'. The pointless things some folks say.
@Glacier7474
Жыл бұрын
@@liammurphy2725 what's wrong?
Australia- the land with a “tiger” that’s less dangerous than a dog, and a “lion” That was smaller than a jaguar with front teeth like a rat🫤
@mikewilson858
Жыл бұрын
On the other hand the lizards were the size of crocodiles
@cassiuspharell8711
Жыл бұрын
@@mikewilson858 Yes, megalania. 20 feet Komodo-like lizard.
@bennydufresne8994
Жыл бұрын
Thilocine was definitely more dangerous than a dog, they can open there jaw 180 degreess
@michaelteret4763
Жыл бұрын
Hence venom?
@JustSomeDude42
Жыл бұрын
@@mikewilson858 I know you’re talking about the giant Komodo dragon, but my brain could only look at this and go “… you mean like a crocodile” cause they have the salt water crocodile.
Any predator that can take down hippo/rhino sized animals solo is a beast.
@tijanamilenkovic9442
Жыл бұрын
like wolverine being pinned against a bear?
We have lots of opossums in our yard. I'm sure they would enjoy seeing this.
@TragoudistrosMPH
Жыл бұрын
*stops playing dead* One day you'll be crawling over OUR fences primates!
@chaosgoettin
Жыл бұрын
too bad you think they are useless :( You guys have marsupials, and they keep your yard free of pests. yet, you treat them like rats.
@marcpeterson1092
Жыл бұрын
Invite them in. Make snacks. Make a party of it. (avoid alcohol, opossums are pretty crazy when they drink.)
@benpuljak2304
Жыл бұрын
@@chaosgoettin you know little.
@chaosgoettin
Жыл бұрын
@@benpuljak2304 but more than you, it seems.
Finally, an episode about Prehistoric Australian Marsupials. ❤️
this bear knows how to drop it
I was hoping to see a new video from you guys, and right as I opened youtube, I was blessed, and perfectly on time too. Keep up the great work, especially love the prehistoric animal episodes like this one.
I love this video, but I want to comment on the surveys that PBS does. I've been participating in them for the past 2 years and I find it so awesome that they take feedback and genuinely listen to their audiences. I've been watching PBS shows since the early 2000s when watching PBS Kids and I can't find another large company that actually cares about their audience on the same level as PBS. Thank you for all you do!
The scratch marks on the cave wall that were found remind me of those videos of cats that jump in plastic boxes & just start furiously pawing & scratching at the inner walls. Richard Owen was really a genius to name Thylacoleo after lions.
That critter has, to quote Monty Python, "nasty big pointy teeth!" 😲
@scp-2348
Жыл бұрын
"That could rip a man apart"!
I really appreciated seeing the specific mobs mentioned at the end. It made me smile.
Megalania, quinkana, thylacoleo and wonambi might’ve gone extinct, but Komodo dragons only became locally extinct. Komodo dragons originated and used to live in Australia up until relatively recently. They died out along with their prey, but we've introduced new potential prey for them
@PurpleShift42
11 ай бұрын
To be fair, there are other relatives of the Komodo dragon still around in Australia, we just call them goannas (monitor lizards). Wikipedia even tells me we have their sister taxon still around, the lace monitor, and they're also apex predators. So we probably don't need to go that far to recreate the biosphere of pre-Indigenous-inhabitation Australia 😛
@sarban1653
8 ай бұрын
@@PurpleShift42 But still, none of those are as big as the Komodo dragon or would be able to do the same stuff. And yeah, Komodo dragons are technically a type of goanna.
The epithet “carnifex” is probably the most metal byname of any animal
Very sad that they are gone 😢😢😢
Finally!!! Thylacoleo is here!!! 😭😭😭 I've been waiting for this one for so long a while now!!! Thank you PBS Eons!!!
When I discovered this channel I was excited because…. Duh natural history! But now I’ve developed this habit of watching it before bed and I can’t make it through an episode without falling asleep. The hosts’ voices are so soothing, I can’t help it!
@Manj_J
Жыл бұрын
Personally if I binge-watch more than like 3 of these episodes I start to feel sleepy because of the calmness of their voices, which is why whenever I'm sick I take my meds and snuggle up in bed to binge-watch them until I fall asleep, it's become a tradition for me now to the point that even watching these videos makes me feel better even without me being sick lol
So cool seeing a different body plan. You never know what will work!
I love doing surveys, especially for a company I love so much! you're welcome!
Love her voice, she needs to narrate more often.
Love seeing videos about the history of my adopted home. And what a great one it was!
@Circuit7Active
Жыл бұрын
nothing special really.
@infinitemonkey917
Жыл бұрын
@@Circuit7Active How is a big cat sized marsupial, evolved from placid herbivores and capable of taking down large prey with it's front teeth not awesome ?
@MossyMozart
Жыл бұрын
@@infinitemonkey917 - It is most definitely awsome!
Wonderful presentation of an interesting topic as always!
Great to see a video about Australia's unique animals! I think they are really cool and underrated, more people should know about our unique fauna, they are as cool as the rest of the world! Great vid!
Did the Survey, hope it helps you and Spacetime to still be on, since I love your content. Was a bit scared when there wasnt Terra to choose in survey, are they ending or what?
You also had a number of wallaby genera evolve to eat meat, Ekaltadeta, for instance. So, there were plenty of predatory animals around in Australia back in Thlacoleo's day, and even beforehand.
Seriously, of all the amazing bits from this video, 10:08 is my favorite, so-PBS moment. Thanks for all you do.
I love this channel !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hold my breath waiting for videos to drop !!!!!!!
With Thylacoleo out of the picture it’s finally time for Kangaroos and convergent evolution to give rise to…Tyroonasaurus-Rex 🦖 🦘
I requested you guys cover this at the last audience survey! Im so excited!
Really wanted to know more about this! Thank you ‼️
They’re just like us, from simple herbivores to apex predators dominating their environment.
@tijanamilenkovic3425
Жыл бұрын
Is there is something opposite of that, from a simple predator to a large dominant herbivore 😅
@thanator4063
4 ай бұрын
@@tijanamilenkovic3425 Well... Sauropods
Can or have you ever done a video on how human populations ended up on Australia and other islands? I’d love to know more about how humans ended up on various islands and how isolation changed those populations the same way islands can create giant or miniature animals due to the isolation.
OMG yes! I have requested that a while back. Thank you so much! 😃😃😃
I love all of your videos. Those puns in the end are oustanding as well!!
Essentially the only thing filling the apex predator void in Australia would be the salt water crocodile, so if you stay out of Darwin and Far North Queensland you should be fine. Because every other dangerous animal in this country is usually small and timid and surprisingly easy to avoid.
@PurpleShift42
11 ай бұрын
And let's not forget the infamously baby-eating dingos (poor Lindy Chamberlain)
@OpEditorial
11 ай бұрын
@@PurpleShift42 true, though dingos are almost never encountered in most suburban areas
This reminds me how over millions of years some lizard species became the mosasaur.
Man I would've loved to see one of these in real life. Such a cool, unique predator.
Thanks Kallie, another great episode.
I imagine that perhaps an evolution similar to the Thylacoleo, from a herbivore to a carnivore, could happen for example in arboreal rodents such as squirrels, I think it could happen in certain places, if the conditions were optimal for a similar adaptation.
@sneeringimperialist6667
Жыл бұрын
Squirrels eat bird's eggs now. Maybe not a huge stretch.
@germanomagnone
Жыл бұрын
@@sneeringimperialist6667 well, as Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park he once said "life finds a way".😉😉😉😉
@ekosubandie2094
Жыл бұрын
Most rodent species are already omnivorous, so it won't be particularly difficult for at least one of them to transition into full carnivory at some point in the future anyway
@germanomagnone
Жыл бұрын
@@ekosubandie2094 Already Dougal Dixon in 1981 with his Falanx: "Amphimorphodus cynomorphus" (descendants of the rats that cover the lifestyle of the wolves) had thought about it, I only made a variation with another type of rodent.
@tijanamilenkovic3425
Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the example of a carnivore transitioning into a herbivore? 😅
thylacoleo my beloved
Ooh keep the videos up I already know it’s gonna be a great video
Yayyyy! I was wondering when you'd cover this!
As someone who lives in Virginia, I have always had an adoration for our only marsupial. The Biogeography that got them here would sound crazy if it weren't for continental drift.
"Koala family" "Skilled climber" WAIT ARE YOU SAING THIS WAS AN IRL DROP BEAR
Shout out for the survey. The more people who speak up the better!
YEEEEESSSS I've been waiting so long for you guys to cover this
I, for one, welcome our new carnivorous quokka overlords.
@iamblackthorne
Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic idea! Bring 'em on!
@tijanamilenkovic9442
Жыл бұрын
@@iamblackthorne who is laughing now, dolphins?
Can we please collectively agree to call these guys real-life drop bears?
@ekosubandie2094
Жыл бұрын
Aye
@richardhaselwood9478
Жыл бұрын
Motion forwarded, motion carried. The aye's have it....
Always interesting, thank you.
Also will add- Wombats are built like a Combat Tank. They’re grumpy AF. They hate everyone. They ignore everything not grass or another wombat. They are loners. They’re very strong and destructive. They can burrow through a dam wall. They’re perfectly predisposed to becoming carnivores.
Hey can you guys do a video on the weird looking ancient sharks?? I especially wanna about the one with the anvil thingy on its head LOL
Was the dingo omitted from discussion as a Australian carnivorous predator because it was an introduced animal?
@Ashtari
Жыл бұрын
Dingos are considered small to medium sized. This was a video about large predators and in the time since the decline of the thyla, something should have taken it’s place as the apex large predator. But outside of humans, there are no large predators on Australia.
@fubberpish3614
Жыл бұрын
@@Ashtari large terrestrial predators that is - Australia does have large aquatic predators. Saltwater Crocodiles, various sharks and rays, cetaceans, various predatory fishes. But yes, modern Australia lacks large land predators, other than humans and the Dingo. I do wonder what will evolve in the future to fill this open niche - perhaps a giant dasyurid? or a predatory kangaroo? fully terrestrial crocodiles? or predatory emus?
@Ashtari
Жыл бұрын
@@fubberpish3614 As harsh as the Australian climate is combined with the appearance of modern humans, we may actually never see a large land predator take the niche. We are seeing this trend around the world, where large apex land predators are in decline where ever modern humans exist, unless said humans go out of their ways to bolster the populations. Or in the case of the Brown bear it's also a generalist that can survive on humanity's refuse.
I'm so glad I found this channel..... now where that survey at
I love this channel so much!
So many marsupial variants! Wouldn't it be funny if there were a humanoid marsupial? How would humans look if we were marsupials?
@teej008
Жыл бұрын
make a cool cryptid.
@juritudi57yearsago59
Жыл бұрын
We’d have pouches
@ralsim5308
Жыл бұрын
Childbirth would have been long way easier and less risky for poor women lives
@KayclauShipper
Жыл бұрын
@@ralsim5308 oh definitely.
@tijanamilenkovic9442
Жыл бұрын
@@KayclauShipper also how about marsupial seal, marsupial whale, marsupial dolphin or marsupial sea cow just imagine a fully marine marsupial and so many opportunities this kind of animal would have for its lifestyle
Oh come on! We know perfectly well which is the most fell and destructive mammal predator in Australia (and everywhere else...)
What do you mean missing? Have you seen how jacked kangaroos are?!
Australia: I'm gonna take a Dunkekosteus, make it land based and give it pockets.
I would love an episode on how people extrapolate what a beast looks like (i say beasts to be more accurate because humans are animals...🤷) based on just their bones. Do they compare them to the bones of beasts that people were able to study the bones and bodies of at the same time?
@dixon_481
Жыл бұрын
Yeah! I know little bits and bobs about this but I'd love to know more. I think that would make a great episode.
@Crow0567
Жыл бұрын
This applies to ancient humans too! So "animals" works just fine here
Just a quick thank you for acknowledging the traditional owners of the land, always was, always will be! All the best Jules 🌈
@duskpede5146
Жыл бұрын
ah nothing like symbolic recognition without any substantive change to real injustice
@julescaru8591
Жыл бұрын
@@duskpede5146 yeah that’s true we still have a long way to go, 💕
@mehere8038
Жыл бұрын
would have been nice if they also recognised how connected to the eco-system the Indigenous people were & how they kept everything in perfect balance without other apex predators present! That's never been seen anywhere else in the world & presumably took a LOT of skill
@AngryGodzillaBirds1
Жыл бұрын
@Duskpede what is PBS eons supposed to do about centuries-spanning colonialism
@carmen.eve.2033
Жыл бұрын
@@duskpede5146 recognition is the first step lol we'll get there eventually
always enjoy your videos
that was awesome and a lot of info to me thank you
So basically it was a combat wombat
@indyreno2933
Жыл бұрын
Not really, wombats are more closely related to cuscuses and kangaroos than to marsupial lions.
@clusterfer
Жыл бұрын
Combat Wombat is my new band name!
@clusterfer
Жыл бұрын
... now
@tijanamilenkovic9442
Жыл бұрын
@@clusterfer MORTAL WOMBAT! just sound so edgy and metal so is your band heavy metal
A stabby wombat. Cute...ish
@tijanamilenkovic9442
Жыл бұрын
that's metal bro
I dunno...I think the apex predators simply weren't mammalian (nor marsupial); they were reptiles. Huge monitor lizards like Komodo dragons or Varanus Priscus/Megalania & land crocodilians like Quinkana. It'd not like the marsupial lion isn't impressive, but the real issue was less about a missing apex predator & more about the apex predator not being a mammal at all. Too unthinkable for many.
@seanmckelvey6618
Жыл бұрын
This is exactly it. I think people are still bothered by the fact that there could exist a place during that time that didn't have mammalian apex predators, which I think stems from this deeply held belief that mammals are somehow inherently superior to reptiles or birds. Thylacoleo is an impressive creature for sure, but it's not big enough to be the apex predator when the largest game are things like Diprotodon and gigantic Kangaroos. You know what was more than big enough though? The giant monitor lizard and blade toothed land crocodiles. It bugs me that people can conceive of Australia's isolation being the reason for something like the marsupial lion existing, but can't seem to truly conceive of it's isolation also meaning that mammals never reached the spot of top predator.
@ZombieBarioth
Жыл бұрын
In fairness people do accept mammals aren't always the apex predator, that thinking apparently just ends with the dinosaurs. As though we somehow reached a point where mammals were too big to fail. Maybe we did, but Australian mammals clearly never got that far. That's the part people can't seem to wrap their heads around.
@GenghisDon1970
Жыл бұрын
@@ZombieBarioth well said
@GenghisDon1970
Жыл бұрын
@@seanmckelvey6618 yep!
@LastFirstism
Жыл бұрын
@@seanmckelvey6618 I think it is simply because mammal's superior thermoregulatory ability means that they can be more active terrestrial hunters than reptiles. Although monitor's unique among lizards ability to breathe while running does mean they can be more active than other reptiles and marsupials do tend to have lower metabolisms, hence lower activity levels. But lizards and crocodiles generally eat less frequently and move around less than their mammalian equivalents. Australia losing its placental mammals does clearly change things, though. And reptiles may have beat mammals to many of those niches.
If you've ever wondered how a wombat got all bitty then you've never met a wombat.
always fun to see a lesser known prehistoric organism like thylacoleo covered
9:53 empty? What about dingos?
@tijanamilenkovic9442
Жыл бұрын
they are not native nor are they marsupials
@FBIandre123
Жыл бұрын
@@tijanamilenkovic9442 but they are in australia and they are in the top predator nich
Is possible that tylacoleo could be an excellent hunter /scavenger but also a total omnivore? Something more similar to a bear than a real hipercarnivorous
@Meraxes6
Жыл бұрын
Its teeth would tell us that. Looks like it doesn’t really have crushing molars like most omnivores, only cutting teeth for eating meat
@edwardfletcher7790
Жыл бұрын
Totally wrong direction, absolutely a hypercarnivore.
I love when she hosts the show!
PBS Eons needs to do a field trip to the Naracoorte Caves in South Australia. Fossils of some amazing extinct megafauna exist here.
The apex predator of Australia is the Wollongong Mulleted Bogan. Evolved from the humble Irish Penal Colony Inmate, I believe.
@richardhaselwood9478
Жыл бұрын
Just remember, there are many local variants of the Mulleted Bogan. They really are quite common, e.g. in the Valley at 3am on Friday night/Saturday morning
I have never clicked a video so fast Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi
such a cool critter,I know this genus since a lot of years,and yet,I still mistake Thylacoleo with Thylacosmilus
Thylacaleo is my favorite prehistoric mammal so when I saw this video show up in my recommended I let out the most excited noise ever that my cat got excited because I was excited lol
Dingos are Apex predators
@FeralDropbear
Жыл бұрын
Dingos are not native, they were brought over by early humans to the continent but yes they are the apex predators of Australia now even though only small in comparison to Thylacoleo.