I watched someone crash on the first corner at our local winter series, he cut 2 corners and went from 8th to 2nd. I gave him a lap penalty. He thought he won at the end.....nah mate fu

Jesus take the wheel 😂😂😂 best quote yet

RC lapcounter rigs need more loops to prevent this

@boostfiend

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!!

Whenever a referee is strict, those who cheat will grumble. But all other says that they had a great race and it was really fun.

Dude that was a great bit! I deal with this at my local track and our RD recently made it loud and clear that if it’s seen done at all, you get a lap docked the first time, taken out of the race the 2nd time, and if your persist and cut a third time you can’t race for a month!!...it was getting really bad. But I think everyone can admit though,that they have crashed and landed on the wrong side of the track,waited a bit, then took off....I think you are onto something with the 10 second pit stop once you come around that first lap.

I complete with completely agree with you brother. Luckily here at Historic Phil Hurd Raceway, most of our announcers are eagle 🦅 👀 eyed people. And those most people and cars by name and can call it out and tell somebody to do this or do that. And to say keeping everything fair and competition clean. Also your tuning video is light years ahead of everyone else thank you.

“Upside down, *backwards* , Jesus take the wheel.” Lmao! Maifiled got lucky in that situation getting shot out from underneath Denny and Tessmann

Its so sad to see Pros cut the track, come on guys, just do the right thing please.

Race directors, organizers,track owners NOTICE!!: You will get more participants/business the tighter you run things -Trust me! You’re like the umpire in baseball that no one likes at same time but is still necessary

I totally agree if your going to be a role model and try and grow this sport you have to not cheat and be OK with the position or qualify better.

Great point JQ! I think main responsibility is on organisers and race directors, if they don’t care about rules who will?

I’d just like to add, that in that first race. There are several top tier pros,and then some extremely fast,local racers in the 6-10 positions ,Ethan lefabvre,Spencer Heckert, and a couple others. I feel that the top pros feel even more pressure in this situation with fast local guys in they’re same main. Like the need to finish top 3 is so high, so they are not embarrassed,by an otherwise local,but still extremely fast guy. They don’t want to show that they are human,and not much faster than some guys local to big tracks like thornhill. Or even mikes! Where Brandon Rose is from.

MyLaps should make a new wireless pick up, the 1980 hardwired box needs an upgrade. Then you could put 3-4 loops on the track. no loop = no lap.

You are absolutely right, that's the organizers responsibility. The drivers responsibility to reenter the track as safe as possible from where they had the incident. Corner workers or any spectator should report this. It happens all the time in GNCC and desert racing. That's why at the finish of these races they say unofficial results in there broadcast.

Haha JQ you’re the man!

@cmx2828

3 жыл бұрын

love this video. Realtalk time :)

If we hung out, I would constantly egg you on around people and hope for a show lol

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

Cavalieri had me arm wrestle a fat girl in a bar in Hawaii once. True story.

@melancholymartialarts7095

2 жыл бұрын

@@invisiblespeedrc 🤣🤣 She won?

I think if drivers who cut the track have a 30 second penalty or 1 lap that would cut down this stuff to zero for the simple fact that these guys don't want to have a bad rep

the problem with big races in the US is two fold. First, there is a race announcer, but no director. So nobody is calling traffic. Secondly, at these big races, the announcer doesn't give two shits about all of the average joe's that pay their entry fees, they only care about the pros.

Adam tried to cut in the B main at the 2019 Nats in truggy but had a blow out instead

Instead of tubes they should use a 6 or 8 inch wall of some sort so they can't hop the tubes.idk but I hear what your saying

@thomaslax39

3 жыл бұрын

The 2010 ifmar worlds had a great track for no cutting. Check out that track if you dont remember or haven't seen it before. The track is just cool but the way they have these fences set up was neat.

Appreciate the honest perspective JQ! You should consider getting telestrator software to circle things on your screen!

More mark stitons in the racing world we need !....awesome referee!

I watched Joe Bornhorst cut about 50 feet of track at the PNB this year.

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

Not surprised

This is a clear cut case where a sort of parental role is being neglected by the race organizers. If the drivers suffer no consequences for their unethical and blatant cheating, why should they change their behavior? This seems like a really easy fix. Either a 10s pitstop as you suggest or just simply do not count laps where the entire track wasn't followed. When you think you've won but come to discover that you completed a lap less than your competitors, I reckon that you would see the practice die off almost instantaneously.

“Cutting/gaining unjust advantage” says a lot about a persons character

@invisiblespeedrc

6 ай бұрын

This has always been my ”beef” with drake. Be true to yourself, be real and honest. Jeremy Kortz was himself, did all kinds of shit, owned up to it. He didn’t pretend to be some class act industry darling. Drake hacks, cuts the track, gives below average basic advice and is treated like an rc god because he looks like a nice guy.

This is why I love you JQ.

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

And why so many hate me....

Jimmy Babcock at Hot Rod Hobbies would cut time off of our laps if he saw us cut. Always.

@invisiblespeedrc

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you, not the top guys. Also how much time? Its a joke

I agree. That was pretty bad. Announcers scared of the big names.

I absolutely agree, I remember these people would come in from quite a ways away for the indoor races and if I got swear I was laughing them, it would purposely land on my car and break all kinds of stuff because they're in dead last and they were going to finish dead-last but it would cost me at least a hundred bucks in parts because they broke my shocks apart and so on, or just blatant coming of the track, but generally Karma kicked in at some point but I agree when I watch these Pro races online and in-person, it's either really good racing or a bunch of BS. I seen guys run 40% Nitro instead of 30% and things like that but they don't really know how to tune an engine in the first place so I never experienced it mattering all that much, but somebody knew what they were doing, obviously it would matter significantly. So was someone being a Pro Driver for being at a championship, you are right that it comes down to the race organizers and so on. Do you think they are worried if they say something that they won't run the race there anymore? Just like another motorsports when racers decide to boycott, etc..? Great video!

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

It's a mix of not caring, being lazy and not wanting to piss anyone off. However not doing anything also pisses people off, so the safer way is actually to do something, and just piss that one person off.

Unbelievable! I hope they see this video and make a defense video for themselves 😂

As a former RD, it's hard to police the 1st incident with so much carnage at the start on a local level. I have seen similar situations at big club races and been guilty of letting it go because people come from out of state that I am not familiar with, so it's hard to call them out...the only viable option is to do a full restart, but with races already behind schedule it's hard to pull the trigger on a full restart. But in a pro race where you know the paint jobs and drivers, it should be easy to call out drivers for a stop and go. I think it's the RD afraid to piss off the big names, and lets it go. It's easier to pretend you didn't see what happened lol. And as a driver I have lost a race (that was big to me) where the guy in 2nd crashed and skipped, making up about 7 seconds on me (and my OG JQ eCar), the race was almost over and I still had a few seconds lead, but I saw his cheat and got flustered that he was getting away with it and lost focus, and thus lost the race. I'm sure I've pulled similar moves before, but I always tried to be respectful and wait longer than I should. Good vid!

I've had this same thing cost me a race. I almost quit rc that day because the race director let it go. Something else that's BS in rc racing is the fact that they charge these insane entry fees ($75) and then have zero purse. And on top of that they make you turn marshal. If there charging that much and not paying any purse they can hire a crew to turn marshal. This is why I don't waste my money racing rc.

hi j,could we try an oval super speedway to cut down on the bs moves?

Love your videos JQ! You are making a very good point. Pros need to get better at that. They are role models to us all. Adam Drake is an amazing driver and got a cool ass company now. He needs to show that in his races! Keep it up JQ i think you might have found your calling!

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't know he had a company.

Great video fella 👍🏻

Not as bad as turning someone's radio off mid race

Me being the confrontational person I'am, if I saw a cut like Drake or even Tessmen and I was driving in that race you can be sure I would call them out. If they want to approach me during or after the race we could handle it however that's want, want to cry, I can make that happen

Give’ em the side eye, bro! Good shit.

I remember the few times when the pro racers have changed there equipment using other branded tyres and engines that are not in there sponsorship

Isn't it easy to tell who cut the track from the lap times?

Great vid- subscribed.

What are your thoughts on guys who “send it” into first couple corners after the start buzzer.(over aggressive starters)??

@invisiblespeedrc

6 ай бұрын

Low IQ

@papabear9498

6 ай бұрын

Lmao

How do you feel about sand baggers? Guys in sportsman that blow qualifying just so they can turn it on in the mains to take home a trophy?

@bgeno4877

3 жыл бұрын

I showed up to a local track recently for my second visit to the track. I'm new, and not very good, but the first time I went, I was sitting in 2nd in the A Main (lots of regulars were missing that night) of 2WD Buggy until someone landed on top of me and killed my ESC with a minute left. So this time, the RD says "I'm gonna put you in Novice Buggy." I was like "weird, but ok." After qualifying, I'm 4 laps up on everyone in Novice Buggy. One of the guys says to me "Hey, you're sandbagging it!" I was like "he put me there!" I had him move me to the back of the B Main in 2WD Buggy, and I drove to a win.

@davidsandate1522

3 жыл бұрын

If the driver's time starts to match the next class above in times around the track then they get the DQ

On the clip with the us open fuel race , I think the pipe jump was a acciden

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

Did you listen to what I said? Or was the video muted for you?

@Andrew-hh3ol

3 жыл бұрын

@@invisiblespeedrc you said you think it was a accident , I concur that it is based on how little time between crash and course cut, I think there should be smaller punishments for that sort of thing, because a whole lap is a lot

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew-hh3ol no, because the track cut was not an accident.

@Andrew-hh3ol

3 жыл бұрын

@@invisiblespeedrc I must be blind jk , but if it wasn’t a accident I guess full penalty

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew-hh3ol Crashing over the pipe was not the track cut. It's what happened after that.

I never raced on a track before so wasn't even expecting people to be doing this kind of thing when all eyes are on track and being filmed. Clearly there's a need to keep the drivers honest, my suggestion is the following: given that every car has a device to check their laps and lap times why not use checkpoints across the track, if the car did not pass those checkpoints then penalties should be in place. Maybe it's easier to talk than implementing it but I think it's doable, if checkpoints are missing in the middle of the track then penalties should be given. Also, if these people are being paid/sponsored by brands, I'm pretty sure whoever pays them will be looking at cutting them off contract for cheating, hopefully their contract mentions something about cheating or something... I don't know.

I think this is the exact reason why people hate you. But I totally agree with you at this level of being a paid driver this shouldn’t be allowed. Look at any form of Motorsport which everyone wants Rc to be on that level also, you would be called out for it. But I guess since it’s a “toy” it’s all good, I bet those bonuses are worth being a hack ,Like when you watch a child flick a booger at someone and you both make eye contact and just smile at each other. greasy...

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

What is the exact reason?

@donaldhowe3556

3 жыл бұрын

Cuz nobody like facts JQ, love the new channel content btw

Totally agree with you JQ,

if you want to stop this kind of stuff you need more than one announcer. Actually the announcer shouldn't be responsible at all, he should only be there to call / comment on the race for the spectators. As in other sports you need referees on the drivers stand and not just one but three or four for the mains. It's simply impossible for one announcer who is trying to call the race for the spectators make decisions on wrong doings of drivers.

This is a bold move Cotton

Good stuff JQ👍

What are your thoughts of the Ongaro 2018 World Championship Gyro controversy

Who had the bet on how many videos before he started in on Captain Club Race? 😂

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

Did you watch..........THE FIRST VIDEO?

@RenBobbins

3 жыл бұрын

@@invisiblespeedrc I did. I was the one who had the bet!

Do you have a video of you cutting the track?

well in heat of moment you lose sense of direction is what I think 😅

Integrity. Some people have it and some don't. It's bad enough at the club level, but this shouldn't be tolerated at the pro level. Especially when peoples livelihoods are at stake.

Last race I competed in was about 2 years ago. I had been away from competition for a while. I was in the transfer spot out of the B-Main and one of the guys behind me crashed himself over a pipe, crossed an infield space and deliberately drove over another pipe putting him out in front of me. He finished the race 30 seconds later in my spot. My last lap trying to catch him was actually the 2nd fastest of the night in the class, besides his cheat lap which was 6 seconds faster! Dude actually made a joke about cheating sometimes to qualify for the A-Main right on the stand as we were walking off! After marshalling I went to the race organizer and showed him the lap times and the clear cheat and he still blew me off. I asked why they didn't update the current layout's lap record then since the guy beat it by over 5 seconds and he just ignored me. Total homer's club over there. It is the only track nearby so I just stopped racing.

@3DaysTillGrace

3 жыл бұрын

digiprez77 that really sucks!! I’m sorry that happened

Coelho ( or what ever it is spelled) did this at the worlds in Japan in offroad with exactly such a manouver. He cased the jump in a1 and rolled of the jump. He waited slightly but should have been way of at the back of the field. I was appould by the driver and even worse that the referee did nothing about it😥

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

Basically every driver in the world would have done the same. It was an epic fail by the referee.

JQ, I have announced that revelation and greater la race tracks for off-roaded on road from time to time. I have penalized some of my friends for not getting correctly, and pulling some guys back on the track.. and my friends would even yell at me for giving them the penalty, I say too bad man you know the rules and you know me. Mr Pink don't play that game

The NCT series director does a good job. Last year it was not great but this season Brian stepped up and started makijg people stop.

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

Should stop in the pits for a stop and go

They don't wanna say anything about it and it is sad. If I did it they would call me out immediately.

Drake gets screwed more than anyone I’ve ever seen. That said, should never cut the track.

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

Screwed how?

@danielwalter5268

3 жыл бұрын

@@invisiblespeedrc This is from watching vids on the internet, he almost always ends up in the first corner pile.

just right opinion!

I am a little bit shocked. This are Pro drivers ! This is not good , no way

Very true 🙏

This past weekend I saw someone flame out at blue ridge race the pit guy ran out with the starter box started them on track so they would get the lap. I went up to announcer to tell them what happened and gave him the cheaters name. I hate cheaters.

Did you see Ogden drive in the middle of the track for like 50-60 feet at AMS over the weekend. It's was in the main with a couple minutes to go.

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

No, is it on video? I need a good laugh

@chadmillikan

3 жыл бұрын

@@invisiblespeedrc 😄😄it's right at 5:00 to go, and 5 hrs and 34 minutes into the mains video.

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

@@chadmillikan ok I saw that, nothing wrong with that.

@chadmillikan

3 жыл бұрын

@@invisiblespeedrc yeah, could be both ways. One he didn't have to get marshalled nor did he advance his race position. But also he advanced track position by driving in the infield.

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

@@chadmillikan yes but he lost time and and got back on as soon as he could. Thats fine.

Hard to watch everything in the announcer booth. But yes it does suck. Maybe get some volunteers to watch on the sidelines as a ref?

JQ, I may not agree with everything you say but damn!! He cut the track big time!!!

We need a rcgp league. I like racetime events but it’s just a money grab no prize worth the weekend waiting to run 3 packs in two days

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

so you dont like them

Great video.

In F1 it’s called “racing incident” and no penalty as long as you don’t gain positions

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

No cutting the track is not a racing incident.

@michaelinzitari

3 жыл бұрын

@@invisiblespeedrc If you got pushed off the track or you HAD to avoid an accident you can’t turn around and have another go. It’s a racing incident. The race director knows best

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelinzitari wrong, and wrong. In RC we cant get pushed off the track like in F1. Watch the video. Who was pushed off? No one, they cut the track, and should have gone back.

@michaelinzitari

3 жыл бұрын

@@invisiblespeedrc I guess that’s the main advantage of RC racing. There’s no consequence. Your life isn’t at risk. On a side note how many carbs did you cut up for the tuning video. I counted more than one. That was awesome. Sacrificing good carbs to educate. I watched the entire 1hr20min in one sitting. Bravo!

The problem is the race referrees should be more than 1 person. Should be 3 at least. No referree can see all cars at one time its that simple.

Edible content for sure!

Just like they shouldn't call traveling on Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant.

I cant stop watching an absolute amazement that Drake course cut... that is absolutely blatantly insane! Its so bad its laughable... and nothing was said/done?

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

No, and it's not the only one.

@mikefontenot5313

3 жыл бұрын

Guess the rule system is on a name bases!who you are is what kinda of rules apply to you?a average joe would have been called out or something.

I know that in the lower classes the director will call the driver out.

Great Video JQ - you should have started KZread sooner

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

I was busy

Rc needs yellow flag laps. Send them to the back

You’ll be on those guys shit list for calling them out, but I agree 100%.

What would be a penalty?

@rugby01ful

3 жыл бұрын

stop car in safe place, drop to last, go

@davidsandate1522

3 жыл бұрын

Go into pit lane and do a stop and go, one the three seconds depending on how bad the cut was

Damn straight!!!!

Got it; See something say something.... wait..

That last track has a fault called a "shortcut"... lame track design. Any cheating should be able to be "video challenged" after the race for a full DQ.

jq jq jq jq jq jq... why are you so motivated about rc cars!!!

Will not happen in 1/10 indoor carpet track..🤣

@invisiblespeedrc

3 жыл бұрын

Which part?

they should get all time penalty if this keeps going it will get worst not better

They should penalize them with 5-10 seconds added to their lap time

AGREED

That would upset me aswell u put the time in doin things right to be the fastest and someone cuts the track but is good to know pros r not perfect either aswell .keep on keepin on 😎👊🔥🔥🔥

9 cheater dislike this video

THis started Happening when they put 15+ cars in the mains....10 car mains this never happened..

Wow

Then your announcer from rcgp let drivers they sponsor to do shit and get away with it.

DCT

cheating cheating cutting track cheating