Lauren your content is amazing. The support from other channels will help you to grow your own channel. You are doing what is right for the community and you will continue to support people who are looking for holistic alternative ways to heal their mental health.

I think Laurens Channel is amazing. I try the Ketogenic Diet, too and a lot of people say to me: That never works. But i dont care, because i will try everything to get better. Its very difficult to eat ketogenic in Germany but i will find ways.

@monag.769

Ай бұрын

Why is it difficult in Germany?

@pabeader1941

Ай бұрын

Lots of meat and fat in Germany. I hope you are able to find the way.

@shanerichard6000

Ай бұрын

If you need help understanding concepts contact me. A great resource is Dr. Georgia Ede Change Your Diet Change Your Mind.

@cassieoz1702

Ай бұрын

"That never works" is their excuse for not trying. I've been keto for 7 years. It's not a real challenge if your mind is I the right place

@user-cn1pf2dj4v

Ай бұрын

@@monag.769 they eat a lot of bread. And i miss it. I try it with almond flour, but it doesnt taste very good.

Lauren it really is a sigh of the times, I have to tell you are are one of the role models that have helped my son make improvements using therapeutic metabolic therapy. He is doing extremely well, we've been following this process for four months. It's truly incredible he is down half of his medications, from doctors saying worst case they have seen and he is beginning to feel better, less side effects from medication and vertically no active psychosis. This nonetheless similar to the proven epilepsy keto protocol that was proven even more effective then seizure medications. There are huge interests to maintain the status quo. Human beings deserve much better then to feed industry.

I started the Keto diet because of Lauren. It's working wonderfully! I have had so many positive changes because of her channel and Keto. Thanks Lauren, Hannah and Dr. Scher! You've helped me and many others when nothing else really did.

Stay strong Lauren. People are already very ignorant of mental health issues and even more so when you talk about using Keto as an intervention.

Lauren's channel has been a lifeline for me.

I don't have a mental illness, but have followed Lauren on her channel since last year. I have improved my life through keto/carnivore - and had looked into metabolic therapies for my dad who has suffered from depression - and was thrilled to see her taking this step and also surprised initially by the negative reactions. I know from watching so many people's success stories after starting these therapies that they work and can be life changing/saving. There are so many great doctors out there who have broken away from the standard of care, and they are doing an amazing service for people - can't wait to see where this goes!

Lauren, it’s because of you that I started doing keto. And it’s already changed everything, and given me so much hope. I was skeptical at first, and the more I researched and watched your videos, I couldn’t really deny that the treatment has so much promise. I didn’t know if I could do it on my own, so I found a clinical trial to be part of that sends me keto meals every week. It’s one of the first randomized control trials researching the keto diet and psychosis, and they are still recruiting participants. I decided I needed to participate because I wanted to help support my community, just like you, by contributing to the science behind this diet. I could go on about the benefits I’ve already seen, but I just want to tell you, for all the people who have complained about your content, there are so many people that have benefited, and will continue to benefit from your work. I have a lot to thank you for!

@jan_ellison_baszucki

Ай бұрын

Is that UCSF?

@charliehobson33

Ай бұрын

Amazing :-)

@kimberlymartin4222

Ай бұрын

@@jan_ellison_baszucki yes! And it’s been going really well.

You have to understand what eating better/different and cure schizophrenia/symptoms looks like... I'm 44 and schizophrenic... I have a small volunteer job as I can't work full time... Psychotic anxiety every day/week on and off... I've had people tell me to eat better and I'd be normal... I passed them all off as flat earthers type deal... There calling me dumb that's impossible I'm not lazy etc... and I left a few sceptical comments on Lauren's videos... The science isn't complete... But the proof is in the pudding now I saw Lauren's remission video and I'm 100% keto from last week... Thanks to her I can feel the change... Still sceptical but there's a real hope that's growing... Vs no hope to escape completely... Schizophrenia doesn't mean your stupid.... I'd at least give keto a go if it works for you or not.... It definately has a chance...thanks again kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6SdlNqyo8LRktY.htmlsi=PqeqcikN-u7eYCag My novel on mental illness...

@StarshipTroooper

Ай бұрын

GOOD LUCK ALEX! Check your blood ketones - stay above 1.0 if you can.

@ninawildr4207

Ай бұрын

❤

@annaynely

4 күн бұрын

@@StarshipTroooper Get a medical keto professional coach.

If only Lauren and Hannah's amazing level of empathy was more prevalent. To be that understanding and kind towards those who are negative and critical is a rare and precious thing.

@janem5900

Ай бұрын

The biggest challenge here in Australia is finding a psychiatrist and allied professionals who can facilitate medical ketosis. It's looking like the patient will have to do it on their own which is not ideal.

@metabolicmind

Ай бұрын

​@@janem5900 Yes, unfortunately, it can be hard to find a trained professional to work with. In case you are interested in learning more about what is available in Australia, there is a clinical trial happening in Queensland for individuals with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. You can check out the study details here: nqdit.com.au/

@janem5900

Ай бұрын

@@metabolicmind thank you so much for sharing but unfortunately it is only for those living around Townsville in Northern Queensland. Great to see this Australian research focus.

Love that these amazing women are taking their power back and thriving! Thank you for sharing them.

Brilliant women. Great interviewer. This is awesome information. There really is no excuse for someone not to be happy for you. They can do whatever they want. To look down on your success is kind of mean. I do get that they might feel like big sis is leaving for college or moving out of the shared bedroom. However, adults have to talk themselves out of petty thinking. The quote about not being able to convience themselves they have been fooled is deep. People need to realize this is simply new info. No one is foolish. Of course they may feel foolish if they don't change. Change is just uncomfortable for many.

@Catlily5

Ай бұрын

Yeah, change is hard.

I don't have schizophrenia but I found lauren's channel and am an avid fan of her content Im looking forward to the next incarnation of her content.

Keep up the good work! You give me hope for my son, I believe our bodies need to be properly fueled be for we can make progress.

Lauren is such an exceptional human; calm, poised, considerate and stunningly beautiful. 💖 As someone who is in the process of attaining remission from psychedelic-induced psychosis, I am greatly pleased to witness Lauren's miraculous recovery and shall be joining her very soon. This is the key friends, to know beyond conceivable doubt that every illness is paired with a corresponding cure. And that light can be found even in the direst of circumstances.🕯️

Fantastic interview! So many insights into understanding different angles while embarking on a keto journey. I look forward to hearing more about the journey of Lauren and others. Mindset is so important. Thanks for posting!

Lauren. The standard pharmaceutical approach wasn’t able to help you. You went outside the “Standard” medical approach and found real healing and stabilised your medical condition. Go girl. 🙏

I support her, it's definitely helped me on my keto journey which is going strong!

@caitlinhoey841

Ай бұрын

Same here! Good for you!

I watch lauren and have schizophrenia. Ive been doing keto for four months and I no longer feel groggy half the day since i take antipsychotics. I cant go off my medicine but the energy alone will keep me going with this lifestyle!

So proud of Lauren and Hannah! Great interview!

Really wonderful discussion! I am so glad I listened and learned even more about the benefits of keto/carnivore! I am glad that at the end you included how thinking about the gain of freedom and new ways of eating is what counteracts the thoughts of "I can't eat (fill in the blank)! No way. I'd rather be sick, sad, hurting, hurtful, or dead, than give that up!" That is very twisted thinking, I know because I went through it, basically. I honestly think that some of the pushback and sabotage is coming from the fear of rejection by community. That becomes near to cultish. "Plant based" or veganism is often part of the community mutually shared by those who have schizophrenia challenges, and those with many other challenges. See most middle and high schools. It starts there. In a group where some feel they must come to value all that they feel marginalizes them, and they find what feels like support from the others who are marginalized, though very different from schizophrenia,, then they actually fear going against or leaving the identity group in any way. It is so sad that identity in a dysfunctional heart, mind, or body becomes more important than healing the dysfunction or growing stronger or wiser. Another issue for these KZreadrs who sustain attack and censorship, to remember is that veganism can be so political or radical that any talk of animal based eating, no matter the need or strong ethical reasoning, will elicit aggressive censorship that is masked as a fellow person who faces schizophrenia, etc. Just more effects of group-think when identity-think takes over. For example, "I am a person who has schizophrenia" becomes "I am a schizophrenic", and "I am a person who believes eating only plants is best for me and my goals" becomes "I am a vegan and it is the only right way for everyone, and the ends justify the means, so attack, exclusion, and/or sabotage is good as long as it's not done to me". The "marginalized" become the cancel cult "marginalized. We all have to check ourselves so we don't slip into group or identity think!

@Catlily5

Ай бұрын

There is a vegan Keto diet for vegans.

Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into making such high quality content Lauren. I was so thrilled to hear you SHARE that you have suffered with PCOS and that nutritional Ketosis positively impacted your fertility AND regulation of hormones and menstrual cycle. THAT IS HUGELY important information that SO MANY WOMEN can benefit from knowing!!!!!!!!! Please share the range of impacts your nutritional ketosis “medicine” is having on your brain and body. Stay strong 💪. The process of CHANGE is very hard - like turning round an ocean liner sometimes. Your transparency, kindness, empathy, determination, openness to change, continuous reaching out to experts and collaborative approaches, attention to good quality research & evidence, will lead you to have a very large following. You are one erudite woman! And you are OFFERING this to others for the right reasons!!! You Go Girl 💪 🧠 💪 ❤

I am following your journey from Germany and it is so helpful. Thank you

I also read some of the comments on the channel, the reason why as a normally silent follower, I know wanted to write a comment. I found the ketogenic medical intervention through Lauren's channel, which I have been following since a few years from Germany. I was diagnosed with schizophrenia in 2019. While in the beginning the channel provided me with some guidance, resonated with some shared experiances and the feeling of not being alone in this, I cannot thank you and also the team from metabolic mind enough for putting the ketogenic medical intervention on my agenda. While the medications work for me regarding my positive symptoms, I felt debilitated by the severe side effects I am experiencing. With one medication, I couldn't almost sleep in three weeks more than 3 hours at night, while another sedates me so strongly that I can sleep most of my day. And this is just one of the side effects. I know that a lot of patients on antipsycotics share these experiences. When I was working the side effects were a huge struggle for me. I will start my ketogenic medical intervention in summer (waiting times) at a practice in Munich by a professor, who also researches on a related topic at LMU Munich. This not only gives me hope for myself, but also my newborn son. Before birth I was very worried that in case he falls ill too, antipsychotics are the only option for him. Now I see his future much brighter. Also, I want to thank Hannah for sharing that a vegetarian keto intervention is possible. With this, I am thinking of the people deemed treatment resistant that I met during my hospitalization. I really hope they came across this intervention. Lastely, I am so happy for Lauren and Hannah that they were able to put their sypmtoms into remission!! So, again thanks Lauren and the metabolic mind team for putting your stories so publicly out there. It has been a huge benefit in my and my family's and I cannot thank everybody enough.

Really good interview. I too have been trying Keto to treat a chronic depressive condition. Results have been mixed. Feeling great at times to suffering keto flu and a keto rash and an increase in depressive symptoms at other times. Laurens enthusiasm and upbeat personality has been so encouraging but on reflection it's made me rush the process with thoughts like why am not getting the same quick results as Lauren. I must be doing it wrong 😞😞. However I'm an adult who makes my own choices so I am in no way blaming Lauren. I see now that I simply got swept up in the positive stories. Maybe you could interview someone who has had a bumpier ride with ketogenic therapies but overall has found benefits to their MH. Less dramatic stories compared to Lauren and Hannah but slower, steady gains over a longer period of time might provide a more measured, realistic viewpoint? Lauren looks so well, there is such a sparkle in her eyes. It's great to see 😊🌈🏰much love and best wishes from Scotland xx

Beautiful - yes, this broadcast is such a really important broadcast, applicable to other situations as well, when people do something for their evolution that has not yet fully been accepted and understood. Arthur Schopenhauer , the Philosopher, had said: "​All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”

I think in all honesty schizophrenia or any mental illness is mixed with personality problems, jealousy etc. I’m not judging, I have schizophrenia.. but on a mental health channel don’t expect all to be happy for your success. It’s awesome you’re doing well!

I'm so happy for Lauren and want everyone I know with mental health challenges to try this! Thank you Lauren for finding, doing and sharing this! I'm SO happy for you!!!

So brave. So compassionate. So much to enjoy post the trauma. I hope you will allow compassion to be your shield against negative & even hurtful comments. I hope you know there are people who are sending love, support & prayers for both your wellbeing in this process of remission of the awful symptoms of mental illness. 🙏🏼💗

Lauren, I, for one, am extremely thankful that you have shared your journey. My guess, at least for some of your viewers, is that many have a history of trauma, and with that comes personal challenges and a whole bunch of various lived experiences. Many likely felt connected and validated in the misery, and maybe feel a sense of abandonment now that you have sort of ''moved on'' to a healthier and happier place. With age (hah!) I have realized that more often than not, those who take the time to put someone down have issues of their own - they are not in a good place. I can only imagine being on the receiving end of those comments, especially the ones who say you are being dishonest and just doing all that (the channel) for money. I know it's easier said than done, but keep in mind that others' reactions and feelings (especially strangers on the internet) are not your responsibility. My wish for you is that you keep living well, period. If that's *without* schizophrenia, that's way better. I can't see how anyone who is in a healthy frame of mind would disagree with such a goal.

I’ve got the same back lash over weight loss and mental health improvements. People think it invalidates their struggle, but it challenges my old beliefs as well.

If anyone is negative about someone’s positive change it’s a reflection of them and them alone! Either because of jealousy or like Lauren so eloquently said feeling left behind. But it’s sad because it should be empowering not a situation of “misery loves company”. Lauren you are incredibly intelligent and extraordinarily brave not just for putting yourself out there before this and through but for being able to really stand back and empathize and reflect on the role of your channel. Keep doing what you’re doing because even if there are some negative people you’re still doing an amazing thing and helping so many. Even the ones who right now are stuck in their own negative place!

Actually thought of commenting on Lauren's video nearly a year ago about her psychosis coming back to "try keto" but never left a comment. Turns out she already went for it and got good results, good to hear.

It's your channel, and you're doing great work with it! You're a pioneer in your field! Thank you❤

Going keto/ carnivore really does feel like a loss of deriving emotional comforting and joy from the now forbidden foods. It's the hardest part of making this change for me, much worse than the sugar cravings. I mean there's a good reason they are called "comfort foods".

Some people are defined by their illnesses. If you find a way to fix it, you are changing their world view and that scares them. You appear to be attacking them since your defeating the thing that defines them. I live with a person like that and it took years for her to change that way of thinking.

@ninawildr4207

Ай бұрын

Bingo

You’re such an inspiration! You’re helping so many people! Thank you!

It matters where you live, Remember, Lauren lives in Canada. In the US, once you are labeled, you are fast tracked into excessively lucrative programs and meds and groups and everyone gets a piece of you. No way are they apt to let that go. She is lucky to live where the goal is to heal, not to profit.

@vthirteen

Ай бұрын

All the more reason to fight for yourself!

Great interview Great wonderful guest

Lauren, congratulations on your courage and your success! I am so delighted for you! Keep on going!👍 on your fabulous healing !!!♥️

Stay strong, and let the Truth continue to speak for itself

Yeah I agree with the suffering that Lauren has struggled with and commend her on making a change

You are all amazing, well done

Hey there - I’m a subscriber and frequent flyer commenter on Lauren’s channel who listened to this interview with great curiosity. For context, I have a schizoaffective disorder diagnosis and have been medication-free for five years using trauma-informed, abuse-literate therapy as a successful intervention. I am supportive of Lauren’s medical keto journey and think that open discussion about alternative therapies such as metabolic therapy is greatly needed in the mental health space. To Lauren’s point about the Mark Twain quote and the food guide lobbying, I’m wondering if it would be prudent to shift some of the blame for the negative response away from the individuals with mental illnesses offering commentary and toward the public relations projects inherent within psychiatry and pharmacology that have influenced public opinion and shut down discussion by design. Personally, I think the negative feedback stems from a legacy of narrative control as opposed to individual fears. The other thing to consider is that keto has a bad reputation as a diet that gets evangelized around by biohacking bros, and some people are simply tired of hearing about it from friends and family. I think what would help public opinion here is ensuring that the message stays firmly with the intent of informing people about Lauren’s individual experience with keto and less on persuading people to try keto. Just a few reflections for consideration based on what I’ve observed in the Living Well comments section as of late. Thanks for this interview!

In my experience there are more (usually not suffering from mental illness) people happy that I am doing it but not even considering it for themselves. However, there are is more interest from those that I meat who suffer with something. Good news. Michael

I remember during acute hospitalisations, someone would always at some point suggest diet and exercise, or lifestyle changes, even talk therapy. I'd look over at my wife sitting in the hospital bed floridly manic and just think how ridiculous it was, how you could have something so severe and think that was going to be enough. It would make me quite angry. She was slim, ate well, exercised, and we had a hard enough time convincing people that there was zero drug use, having to convince them that she ate a healthy diet was often the kind of last straw. I would see people like that as kinda hippy-dippy alternative medicine types. The thing that changed my mind was reading history. I stopped reading medical literature and instead focused on tracing the history of mental illness and that's when I started to see that the historical evidence didn't harmonise with the mainstream scientific talking points. It's easy enough to misinterpret history, just as it's easy to misinterpret science, but I couldn't explain the degree of apparent divergence. I started to see that the game the pharmaceutical companies was playing was based around exploiting shifts in paradigms, by shifting the paradigms, they could influence perceptions in ways that go far beyond rigging the outcome of one or two studies. Then all they had to do was sit back and wait for the inventible Kuhn loss to occur and for the previous paradigm to be lost to the sands of time and history. But the thing is they're still out there, the research, opinions, viewpoints, and paradigms of some of the greatest doctors who have ever lived and when you read in their own words what they have to say, you realise you've been duped. Ideally, old ideas should be replaced when proven wrong or when a much better idea comes along, but the history of psychiatry doesn't operate that way. It operates a bit more like a Monty Python sketch where some loud voice from the back says something nasty about the old theory and another loud voice from the back proposes some new well-branded slogan and the whole mob just goes along with the new idea forgetting that the old one ever existed. It was realising that the current treatments were not what I understood them to be that opened my mind a little more to the alternatives. The first thing I wanted to do was go back far enough to a point at which I could be confident of little to no drug company meddling. What I found there is that there has historically been a different view of the role of diet in mental illness, not only more interest in it but a more biomedical and disease oriented understanding of the role of diet. It wasn't always presented as the province of mothers and yoga practitioners, or fodder for newspaper columnists to churn out stories about coffee and carcinogenic bacon, there was a time when medicine took diet seriously and a time when metabolic dysfunction was seen as being the most plausible pathogenesis of severe psychiatric illnesses. That's not an understatement, from the mid 19th century to the end of World War II, metabolic dysfunction was the mainstream view and it was believed that it would ultimately be proven. It's true that the concept evolved over time and there were different ideas about it, but the broad sense was that something was going wrong with the way the body processed raw nutrients that was leading to some sort of structural failure in the body's regulatory systems. The expectation was that as science advanced we would be able to iron out the finer details, but the essential nuts and bolts of this thinking held sway for almost a century until German thinking fell out of favour and the discovery of noradrenaline led to a gold rush on neurotransmitter imbalance. This is an obvious case of Kuhn loss because to begin with the thinking was that discovering the cause of noradrenaline dysregulation could lead to finding the metabolic cause, but instead chemical imbalance itself becomes the pathogenesis of all mental illness, replacing the old ideas for no apparent reason other than excitement over the new discoveries and an enthusiasm for the possibilities for treatment.

@jan_ellison_baszucki

Ай бұрын

Very interesting analysis, thank you.

@Catlily5

Ай бұрын

Medications were a miracle compared to some of the earlier treatments for mental illnesses. But they have a lot of bad side effects. If the Keto diet proves to be a better treatment then I am all for it.

@replaceablehead

Ай бұрын

@@Catlily5 It's a funny thing you know, if you go back and read about insulin coma therapy for example there are some pretty credible case reports to suggest it did work in a sort of a way. Also and this will sound crazy, but there used to be this treatment where they would strap the patient in a chair and spin them around at high speed like a carnival ride. Well, the funny thing is when my wife was experiencing really intense mixed states, we started going to the local amusement parks and she found it so therapeutic that we ended up taking out a yearly pass, the act of being spun around at high speeds seemed to induce a sort of euphoria and it released a lot of the agitation from both the illness and the medication. Later on, after reading Kraepelin's endorsement of hydrotherapy we took to going to hot springs as well. For many years, I would poo poo home remedies as being a sort of hippy-dippy nonsense, too weak to be used against such a fearsome disease. However, over time we found some really bizarre ways to cope and in the end, it was often the things with the least side effects that ended up being the most helpful even if they didn't have the same "potency". I think it was when I read about Mogen Schou and how lithium was at first mocked as a sort of "health supplement" by his detractors, that and reading Kraepelin's holistic techniques of treatment that started to change my mind. I thought, "these guys are really hard-nosed scientists and they believe in the disease model, but they're open to holistic and prosaic treatments". Also when I heard Nassir Ghaemi say that most drugs aren't disease-modifying and that the root cause of bipolar is likely partly "metabolic" and then he cited Kraepelin as sharing a similar view in the form of "autointoxication". That really changed my perspective, to hear it from defenders of the disease model, rather than people who are just anti-psychairtry. Of course, none of these people were promoting keto, or being definitive about the metabolic links.

@Catlily5

Ай бұрын

@@replaceablehead The little I read about insulin shock therapy was negative. I do know people who have gone through electroconvulsive therapy. All I can say for that is it might be good if you are completely desperate. I am bipolar and autistic. I love riding rollercoasters. I can't ride spinning rides due to nausea. In autism liking carnival rides to an extreme level is linked to proprioception differences. Some of the same genes are linked in autism, ADHD, schizophrenia and bipolar. So that might explain that result in your wife.

@replaceablehead

Ай бұрын

@@Catlily5 Yeah, true. I was just thinking about how many different things can effect our state of mind and how not all effects are actually altering the underlying problem, but the effects can still feel good at least briefly. I think with coma therapy what was reported is probably best explained by it being sort of so extreme they would come out the other side so disoriented that the psychosis would almost be forgotten about, like it a sort of state of shock. I think a lot of treatments are probably working this way, almost as distractions that alter your mind in a way that distracts you. ECT does seem to do something for melancholic and catatonic stupors, and believe it or not benzos are pretty good at ripping people out of catatonic stupors too. David Healy was saying that something called the dexamethasone suppression test could be used to tell if someone is in this type of a depression and could be used as an indicator for ECT. Of course, if there was a test for severe endogenous depression than the drug companies would have a harder time convincing doctors to hand out medication for milder forms of the illness.

people dont like change mucking up the medical paradigm .You look so healthy that all you need to know XX i have been dong keto for the last year feel great xx

Yall are heroes imo!❤

I think perhaps commenters are also healthily skeptical as it has been an extremely short term period since when you started the change, and with mental health there are always people trying to sell you easy fixes and so I guess it's not unhealthy to have some doubts and see how what can be such a massive overhaul in the way you eat etc I think the analogy with cancer is like great you are in remission, but also having such a small sample size, it's always ok to ask questions. There are just so many people spreading misinformation, and maybe some of us have been given false hope before, so it's understandable to be healthily skeptical. Perhaps I guess also seeing differing perspectives on the health of the keto diet (to represent the scientific concencus) as well would be helpful.

I’m missing akkermansia municiphilia strain in my GI , will I still be able to produce GABA? Supposedly it can proliferate on a ketogenic diet but requires FOS - there’s research how eliminating the strain exacerbates epilepsy symptoms

As I watch this video I have to sadly comment. These people are happy to suffer with you, but not to see you heal without them

Just a question I will look out for any answers thanks... I've started medical keto for schizophrenia... It's a challenge but I was strict vegetarian in the past for 7 years and it's very manageable so far... Can I stay on keto 100% forever? As if my symptoms ease I don't want to eat another bread roll et ever again... Still learning as I go I'll be 100% for the first 4 to 6 months but some diet keto books I have say to cycle on and off... Not interested in cycling on and off my medical intervention if it works and I already am finding benefits...

@metabolicmind

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your question. Let us ask it another way. If someone found a medication completely controlled their symptoms, would anyone suggest they cycle on and off the medication since it isn't "natural" to take the med? That's one way to think about ketosis, although over the course of evolution ketosis was a natural way of living for some populations. That's why we like to discuss ketosis as ketogenic therapy, since it can be a powerful medical intervention and, therefore, should be approached in the same way. We hope that helps!

@alexandermatthewsmusic

Ай бұрын

@@metabolicmind thanks very much... I'm reading any pitfalls of a "natural" metabolic process are not harmful as so much my chemical psych meds although they help have researched negative possibly harmful effects I need to manage... If I'm on these meds permanently a permanent natural metabolic intervention is fine 🙂 thanks Ps I will do more research as well so if I completely missed the point don't worry but I got that it's fine in the long term ha

Not only is jealousy a factor in all this, NO DOUBT there’ll be big pushback, ESPECIALLY in institutionalized care.

My heart goes out to these two. In a similar vein the cancer analogy is a strong one, and a space where dietary changes are somehow the villain compared to standard of care. Baffling. Of the friends who have had to deal with recent cancer diagnoses, only one has watched the metabolic disfunction (T.Seyfried, B.Bikman in particular) videos ive suggested. She’s only doing 5 rounds of radiation after surgery instead of the standard 15 and she’s doing half the tamoxifen dose rather than full while she also implements keto. My other f&f just mocked me for suggesting keto as a path or part of a path to recovery. The “my doc is the best at this, he knows best” mantra kills the conversation. It is too easy to offload the intense discomfort from accepting responsibility for your own path forward. Frankly, it’s cowardice. Thank you to the three of you and MM and Bazuki group for putting this forward. We need your voices!!! We need you showing others that you can be strong - you dont owe us that, but we need you not the other way around - choosing your own path, come what may.

i think you are amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder how keto would effect those with personality disorders especially those including oxytocin deficits

So if the mechanism by which antipsychotics manage schizoaffective disorder is by blunting excess dopamine, does ketosis regulate excitatory neurotransmitters, including dopamine ?

@metabolicmind

Ай бұрын

That's a great question. Dr. Mary Phillips and her team are studying this potential mechanism in their new study. Here's an interview we did regarding the study kzread.info/dash/bejne/aHifrqmJgtHbgKg.html

@Yt1925jn

Ай бұрын

@@metabolicmind oh wow, I got the exact answer I was looking for , gaba is a modulator of dopamine, thankyou

@Yt1925jn

Ай бұрын

@@metabolicmind I wonder if this would be relevant to those with a COMT enzyme gene mutation

When people start trolling you and making threats simply because you are sharing the positives of diet on your schizophrenia, you know you're doing something right. The Machine feels threatened.

It's easy and even necessary for people not to challenge their thinking. Of course, there is a downside to it as well.

A very strange conundrum I’m having: in a state of ketosis my irritable bowel syndrome subsides - although mentally and emotionally I feel horrid (ie brain fog , irritability , lack of tryptophan accessing the brain ?) - possibly bordering out of ketosis or keto flu- with carbohydrates (ie beans oats grains potato ) I feel mentally sharper, still have anxiety, insomnia but constant diarrhea /and or constipation

@craiglatta6378

Ай бұрын

Not sure how long you have been on your journey but for me it was a roller coaster for a few weeks but now I would never go back keep at it. When I struggled I went almost full carnivore

@Yt1925jn

Ай бұрын

@@craiglatta6378I relapsed and feel worse actually. It’s difficult to distinguish when you’re improving mentally if everyday is an uphill battle but I definitely felt a difference in my brief ketosis - could be a placebo , I’m not sure. I have chronic insomnia and I was oversleeping on ketosis 🧐

@Yt1925jn

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@@craiglatta6378carnivore gave me serious diarrhea but keto with fiber keeps it at bay

@Yt1925jn

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@@craiglatta6378the thing is I suspect I keep being knocked out of ketosis and I don’t know why I’m eating really low carb foods

@jan_ellison_baszucki

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Are you measuring ketones?

You just can’t listen to the critics. Most of the time, they’ve no actual interest in the issue, they’re just poking for a response. If you’re critical of someone’s success, that’s a personal issue.

I think it's a difficult topic such as a sciliac diet unless you know the story behind the reason for the diet one which should experience on there own terms

1 thing I am curious about is how many people in this type of situation relapse? I know it is common for people with issues like this and depression that they will continue the treatment until they feel that they are better. They then stop the treatment and get worse Does this group have the same issues with a keto diet?

@jan_ellison_baszucki

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We have not seen this so much. Typically when people get well on this intervention, they are very motivated to stay well. But time will tell as more people try it.

@finagill

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@@jan_ellison_baszucki That is awesome. I hope that the treatment becomes more popular.

My son has been on a therapeutic keto diet for over two months now. Unfortunately, he is still having psychotic episodes, almost daily, lasting 2-6 hours, despite continuing with anti-psychotic medication. I was so hopeful that this would help him, but I'm beginning to think it's futile. I'm heartbroken

@ninawildr4207

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Two mos is a short time ...and maybe he needs to do carnivore eliminate all plants

@ninawildr4207

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And also vitamin B3 supplements

@nitonixnitron25

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@@ninawildr4207 He has been doing carnivore for the last 5 weeks. At least he has dropped back to a healthy weight, and his blood pressure is normal again

@Yt1925jn

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@@nitonixnitron25is protein significantly higher than fats ? Does he use acetyl l carnitine , electrolytes , sodium, MCT oil?

@jan_ellison_baszucki

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Is he working with a practitioner who can help troubleshoot? I have heard Dr. Palmer say that it can take up to 4 months for psychotic symptoms to begin to improve. Perhaps the metabolic improvements in weight and blood pressure will make him feel better so he will be motivated to stick with it?

Publish a daily receipe book for beginners. Anything new is met with scepticism and the book may help. Also mainstream Science hasn't caught up yet.

Sometimes I think people want to hold onto their identity and are threatened when others are changing their identity away from the tribe.

I think they missed one issue , a very human issue. To many people if you talk about lifestyle and diet it is heard as blaming the victim. They hear it as blaming them for their own illness.

A comment used during covid times It sucks to be right early. Also The human brain rejects new ideas or suggestions Strength to everyone on this journey

I found it very very difficult to eat so much fat as demanded by the keto diet. There really Does not seem to be many food choices

@metabolicmind

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Sorry to hear that. Here's a resource we hope helps you find more food options. www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/foods

@aor3220

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@@metabolicmind OK thank you

MH starts w species specific diet 🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩

Get off the carbs!!!!

Sounds like People don’t want to do the work of following the diet. They don’t want it to work because it puts the onus on them. What a shame….

They want what you have .thats it .

I can bet those people are vegans

@ninawildr4207

Ай бұрын

Lol yep

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Perhaps much of the negativity about the success of keto regarding mental illness comes from the misery loves company crowd who have resentment about someone who was once "one of them" but is no longer. Like a once obese person who has lost weight and become much healthier living the ketogenic diet lifestyle, which has often happened, finding negativism and resentment from those still very overweight.

PETA?

I guess if people can get into ketosis via an expensive medication they will be ok with it.

🟩🟩Envy🟩🟩

people like to be victims, and it may show them as not be disciplined and helping themselves like you

Another conservative video 🙄

Amazing! So happy for both of you. Can’t imagine how wonderful this is for you

Taking your own responsability for your health is the best thing you can do, respect 🫡 For other people to see you’re escaping the crowd of patients is a problem. They don’t like that and try to pull you back in the herd…