When Do You Stand Against the Mob? / Doug Wilson & Friends

On this episode of Doug Wilson and Friends, they guys talk about recent events at Colombia University protests. On Monday night, Doug Wilson's grandson Rory Wilson went viral as he faced down a mob on Colombia University campus.

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  • @jimlauerman5642
    @jimlauerman5642Ай бұрын

    This is the best thing I’ve seen and heard for a long time. I’m going to call it “The blessing of the Moscow Mood”.

  • @kristinazubic9669

    @kristinazubic9669

    Ай бұрын

    That’s what Not The Bee called it 😊

  • @SimplyReformed
    @SimplyReformedАй бұрын

    It is good to see there are young men out there like Rory. Praise God. Very enjoyable conversation about American politics - Thank you.

  • @randyosgood4729
    @randyosgood4729Ай бұрын

    I saw this news story yesterday, and to their credit they mentioned that Rory is a Christian... I was engaged with some Christians here on YT yesterday about the re-emergence of Christianity into the culture. The topic was the use of violence (or not) when standing up against the mob. I was on the side that we Christians should eschew violence and be an example to others to show what it is to live a disciplined life. IOW, there are many things we can do in society, but we exercise Christian discernement and discipline when making these choices. The example that Rory and his friend made at Columbia is truly a "God moment" that exemplified the Christian principle of "being a light to the world". Their calm demeanor in front of a raging mob was very Christ-like and spoke volumes to a corrupted nation and set an example for how a Christian engages with the world.

  • @rosefortheKing
    @rosefortheKingАй бұрын

    I'm so proud of those guys and I don't even know them personally!

  • @lamunch42
    @lamunch42Ай бұрын

    Shown my 10 & 12 year old kids some of the clips, interviews and commentaries on these two boys and said that is what you are aiming for as Godly man … modern day biblical manhood and courage has a stalwart smile and knows what God says is right and does it cheerfully.

  • @CanonPress
    @CanonPressАй бұрын

    Hear more about Rory at Colombia from his dad, Nate Wilson, on Stories Are Soul Food kzread.info/dash/bejne/gpprsMRpm8_gpaw.htmlsi=tIuOABOLiKmPBmHx

  • @aallen5256

    @aallen5256

    Ай бұрын

    Morally bankrupt and myopic to promote this empty drama about your own offspring while children die in Gaza. Do you know who Hind Rajab is?

  • @lizakamomboyd6965

    @lizakamomboyd6965

    Ай бұрын

    This was excellent ❤

  • @donawyo
    @donawyoАй бұрын

    I broke into cheers at 11:22. So proud of those kids. Do not fear! Do what is right no matter the cost. They have a lot to teach adults.

  • @westyso.cal.8842
    @westyso.cal.8842Ай бұрын

    Oh man, this is good. What a refreshing perspective these men of God hold. I have grown so weary of the doom and gloom coming from so many Christian circles. These men are encouraging, inspiring, and hopeful for a glorious future. Excellent, indeed.

  • @lizakamomboyd6965
    @lizakamomboyd6965Ай бұрын

    Thankful for faithful pastors, elders and parents!❤

  • @andrewbrowne5557
    @andrewbrowne5557Ай бұрын

    The Moscow Mood triumphs over Columbia…that’s a GOOD mood!

  • @DaBigArmyDude
    @DaBigArmyDudeАй бұрын

    You always stand against the mob. It’s the “mob” who we truly have trouble properly identifying at times.

  • @ceceliachristy8785
    @ceceliachristy8785Ай бұрын

    I pray for the protection of our Lord for this young man.

  • @audella777

    @audella777

    Ай бұрын

    Amen!

  • @CC-ii3ij
    @CC-ii3ijАй бұрын

    I strongly reject Jared’s premise that planning resistance is somehow less godly. Rory’s spontaneous courageous actions are essential, but we have lost our nation because neither Christians nor churches do any planning at all to resist lawless tyranny (with the notable & wonderful exception of the anti-abortion efforts).

  • @CanonPress

    @CanonPress

    Ай бұрын

    Jared was against the spirit of the monday morning quarterback. Not whatever your second clause is about

  • @cindyconley2677

    @cindyconley2677

    Ай бұрын

    #Prolife

  • @joeadrian2860
    @joeadrian2860Ай бұрын

    Guys. Where do I begin to equip and enable my children to fight like your grandson? My oldest are out of the home and have gone the way of the culture. I want to do it different for this next group of younger ones to give an effective defense and love of country. I have one who is reading through Omnibus 1 but there is not a compelling desire to want to learn. The Lord is helping me to reassess and I am convinced it is me that has to change if I want to expect to see real conviction in my children.

  • @kaylar3197

    @kaylar3197

    Ай бұрын

    Future Men by Doug might be good start.

  • @katherinewilliams4500
    @katherinewilliams4500Ай бұрын

    We have no more excuses Church. Raise and train boys to be men, like this. We couldn't ask for better role models, School models and free exceptional teaching from platforms like Canon. It's past time to roll up our sleeves.

  • @aallen5256

    @aallen5256

    Ай бұрын

    Train boys to be men who look the other way while genocide is committed? Do you know who Hind Rajab is?

  • @TheRidgeChristianFellowship
    @TheRidgeChristianFellowshipАй бұрын

    Outstanding. Keep up the great work guys.

  • @shannonbalmes3610
    @shannonbalmes3610Ай бұрын

    Rory is the best of the Moscow Mood! Greatness

  • @dragonhold4
    @dragonhold4Ай бұрын

    (29:52) _Martin Luther was not doing anything spectacular. He was just posting thesis for debate at the community center; "hope you all come". And the Wittenberg door was just the bulletin board. So he posts these thesis and then three weeks later Europe's on fire. That was God's appointment. It was not anything Luther planned. There was no committee behind it. This is the moment to move. We tend to think that we are in charge of scheduling these things_ -Doug Wilson

  • @chloecigarroa9847

    @chloecigarroa9847

    Ай бұрын

    I find it interesting that Luther did not set out to cause any of the fallout that ended up occurring.

  • @dragonhold4

    @dragonhold4

    Ай бұрын

    @@chloecigarroa9847 The irony of putting him on trial to shut him up, only to give him the largest platform in the world ...

  • @lewislibre
    @lewislibreАй бұрын

    Praise God for young men like Rory and especially the Godly men who helped raise him

  • @joshuaracey7967
    @joshuaracey7967Ай бұрын

    ND, my mom says she wishes you would post that video of the police officer. :)

  • @PB-mp4rt
    @PB-mp4rtАй бұрын

    Good discussion. Very God centred. May God continue to bless your service for Him. Love from Greymouth New Zealand.

  • @davidkunze2770
    @davidkunze2770Ай бұрын

    Great stuff! Good talk all around! Praise God!

  • @kristinazubic9669
    @kristinazubic9669Ай бұрын

    I like these guys.

  • @user-xq2bm3nq8y
    @user-xq2bm3nq8yАй бұрын

    Doesn’t Rory worry about not being perceived as winsome? Shouldn’t the overriding concern be what Keller, Piper, DeYoung, Duncan et al think? 😊

  • @andrewbrowne5557

    @andrewbrowne5557

    Ай бұрын

    Can’t help but to contrast Rory Wilson with Abraham Piper…

  • @user-xq2bm3nq8y

    @user-xq2bm3nq8y

    Ай бұрын

    @@andrewbrowne5557 The contrast couldn’t be more stark. Abraham, the multimillionaire entrepreneur who has taken it as his life’s work to wrest as many people as possible from the heart of God.

  • @Yj-Fj

    @Yj-Fj

    Ай бұрын

    The time will come when even he will be called unchristian by his peers in American Christianity. And those who suffer for Christ elsewhere will cheer him on.

  • @kristinazubic9669

    @kristinazubic9669

    Ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @eurekahope5310
    @eurekahope5310Ай бұрын

    Ha! I should have known that young man was a Wilson! Christ gives us strength to do what seems impossible.

  • @Gruff338
    @Gruff338Ай бұрын

    I have been looking for something real for a long time.

  • @JonJaeden
    @JonJaedenАй бұрын

    So, did the cops sit six-feet apart in their squad car?

  • @user-xq2bm3nq8y
    @user-xq2bm3nq8yАй бұрын

    I’m going to be out there for the graduation of Logos School. Hope to meet some of you. You guys rock.

  • @user-xq2bm3nq8y
    @user-xq2bm3nq8yАй бұрын

    Look, is there any way Rory could speak to the graduating class at Logos this year? My granddaughter will be graduating and man, if she and her class could hear him tell his life-story thus far, well, who knows who may be inspired? It could have implications, and serious implications at that!

  • @marshallalbritton9521
    @marshallalbritton9521Ай бұрын

    This was great

  • @YESHUASlave
    @YESHUASlaveАй бұрын

    Great Guys! My Camp In CHRIST . Ben, it's chris/ChîRhôpher "Lazarus" L., i really Appreciate You and Your Sound Counsel. Good Fruit has proven it to be Wise. Thanks, Praise, n ..GLORY To GOD!

  • @DavidZechariah

    @DavidZechariah

    Ай бұрын

    It's a Great Camp to be in! The water is warm and there's plenty of room

  • @steelwarrior105
    @steelwarrior105Ай бұрын

    If not now then when, if not us then who?

  • @DavidZechariah

    @DavidZechariah

    Ай бұрын

    Amen. Stand Firm

  • @georgeluke6382
    @georgeluke6382Ай бұрын

    24:00- 29:22: great job answering a critique here on what we're standing for, and thanks for the biblical word from Doug on the nature of defending the rule of law and almost a natural law-style sense of propriety in articulating neighbor love here. Yes we're against pagan institutions, but that's not the same as everyday courage and retaking institutions as a kind stance for us. Don't be Denethor. And, not missing our God-schedule/Luther moments

  • @georgeluke6382

    @georgeluke6382

    Ай бұрын

    On 31:28 and quarterbacking- totally agree we need to not be critics of God's movements on our own sides. But, it also seems reviewing the game tape is how we get courage for the next call. I know Pr. Jared wouldn't disagree with that per se, but, it seems taking notes on Rory, imitating him, and contexualizing him as he imitates Christ requires a kind of quarterbacking assessment that's natural in a time of sheep without shepherds. Sheep aspiring to backbones, or showing backbones differently, are going to have to figure out what's going on- and unfortunately, many of us do our foaming hot takes online instead of with an open Bible with trusted brothers. 36:54- the fallacy of resulting, and overall fighting against the conservative fear of losing respectability right before this from Pr. Jared is great. 39:15 - on mobs from Pr. Joe, and Paul flustered in Acts, and how to live under the blessing of God and pushing against certain kinds of popularity as you become popular, and enduring mobs. 40:25 - "When we pray for reformation and revival, we need to understand we're praying for mobs", and evangelical awakenings as marked by mob actions.

  • @ogmakefirefiregood
    @ogmakefirefiregoodАй бұрын

    Politician: "How far apart is safe?" Scientists: "Um... 94.7 miles? Let's start by defining the person as a circle of radius 1. The average wind speed on earth is 20 mph. The virus will survive in the air for 2 weeks. RXD=T..."

  • @cindyconley2677

    @cindyconley2677

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah! #TheScience

  • @user-jg6qf4cc2u
    @user-jg6qf4cc2uАй бұрын

    A bunch of old farts circling the drain 🚽

  • @NeanderthalWoman-ou8ev
    @NeanderthalWoman-ou8evАй бұрын

    Question: What should a young Christian woman do in that situation? The same thing, or something different?

  • @graydomn
    @graydomnАй бұрын

    And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. (Ezekiel 22:30)

  • @fredbriggs2225
    @fredbriggs22257 күн бұрын

    As soon as it starts to form.

  • @shellydavis6784
    @shellydavis6784Ай бұрын

    I see Godly leaders starting to emerge. Is there a way to communicate to the body of Christ the local churches beginning to awaken and support a Godly world view? Been searching for a church for 18 months in NC/SC. The doctrine is void, the theology is scarce, and the body is perishing.

  • @BeefyPreacher

    @BeefyPreacher

    Ай бұрын

    Where do you live in SC/NC?

  • @I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
    @I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pidАй бұрын

    6:25 - ohhh… the enemy will find a way to discredit what he did in protecting the hall.

  • @I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
    @I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pidАй бұрын

    29:00 - With what shall I come before the Lord and bow down before the exalted God? Shall I come before Him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old? Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousand rivers of olive oil? Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. Micah 6

  • @kn1ne
    @kn1neАй бұрын

    Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.

  • @toolegittoquit_001

    @toolegittoquit_001

    Ай бұрын

    There are some mistakes that MUST be intervened

  • @kn1ne

    @kn1ne

    Ай бұрын

    @@toolegittoquit_001 even if for sake of argument I granted you that there might theoretically be exceptions to the rule, this most certainly isn’t one of them. All you have to do is stand back and watch them tear apart their own coalition, but instead people like you are insisting on stepping in to give their enemy the rallying cry they desperately need to unite their disparate factions against their favorite boogeyman.

  • @kennorthunder2428
    @kennorthunder2428Ай бұрын

    "The mojo" aka A spirit.

  • @CanonPress

    @CanonPress

    Ай бұрын

    wait a minute -- i've seen that face before

  • @WARTV-dn5fk
    @WARTV-dn5fkАй бұрын

    All very clever, erudite, witty stuff, but it’s simpler, and quicker, to say, that we know the entire world, including ourselves, (which is why only dying to self works) is under the power of the Evil One, who’s power is lies and fear, and so must be resisted with truth and courage 😇

  • @richardmorris363
    @richardmorris363Ай бұрын

    When thought and language are corrupted, the fruit is dysfunction. RPM

  • @CanonPress

    @CanonPress

    Ай бұрын

    RPM

  • @th6252
    @th6252Ай бұрын

    12:04 With all due respect to Doug, I think there is one major entity/agent/behavior he is missing here and that is the outside agent trying to agitate and instigate. It’s been widely revealed how corporate entities and even our own government agencies have hired activists to agitate at numerous protests. But I understand why Doug would avoid that here as it would give more ammo to those who already see him as an extremist loon.

  • @NeanderthalWoman-ou8ev

    @NeanderthalWoman-ou8ev

    Ай бұрын

    I don't see how the presence of outside agitators would make a difference to whether we let the mob trample the rule of law.

  • @NeanderthalWoman-ou8ev

    @NeanderthalWoman-ou8ev

    Ай бұрын

    Doug frequently mentions feds as agitators when he talks about the different groups at play.

  • @bgrind1976
    @bgrind1976Ай бұрын

    Maybe invite E. Michael Jones on to talk? I appreciate any stand on principle, but it is helpful to have a conservative Christian on with a different take.

  • @CanonPress

    @CanonPress

    Ай бұрын

    we have interviews with EMJ

  • @bgrind1976

    @bgrind1976

    Ай бұрын

    @@CanonPress Not on the recent events in Gaza, you don't. I doubt you will.

  • @D26996
    @D26996Ай бұрын

    Speaking pragmatism, too bad the same principle Rory exhibits and discussed here is not applied and exemplified by Doug Wilson et al regarding the presidential election. Apparently, the example there, in calling on the audience to "vote for Trump," is pagan pragmatism RATHER than principled Biblical Christianity.

  • @ethanmulvihill7177

    @ethanmulvihill7177

    Ай бұрын

    What do you propose as an alternative?

  • @CanonPress

    @CanonPress

    Ай бұрын

    hello D26996, huh?

  • @Sardious

    @Sardious

    Ай бұрын

    Genuinely curious, I do agree that Trump is definitely not my guy. I often times including in 2016 voted third party candidate that was actually good, but I knew the at best they could squeeze maybe 3% vote. But what I'm saying in the current 4 years, I would rather try to limit or slow down the current damage rather than feel good for voting for someone who never had a chance well basically guaranteeing that the current situation extend another 4 years. God gave me the grace of allowing me to be born in a country where I can vote for its leadership, what would you suggest we do to minimize the damage and maximize the good

  • @D26996

    @D26996

    Ай бұрын

    @@Sardious Character matters and bad character, especially a national leader’s sexual sin, has national consequences. God’s Word is full of lessons for us to learn from and apply to our situation today in this regard. As you say, in our country we have a role, under the sovereignty of God, in choosing who leads us. When we elect leaders, who are unqualified biblically, we are complicit in the result on the nation. Trump is an excellent, current, example along with many others, of course. It’s not an issue of feeling good about our vote as much as it is an issue of honoring God’s Law/Word and applying it…regardless of where the majority sits and regardless of what our limited view of what we think the outcome of voting for the lesser of two evils might be. This is pragmatism and not principled Biblical Christianity applied to voting and doing so for a Biblically qualified candidate…even if that means writing someone in…and believing God is sovereign. Wilson et al are guilty of this pragmatism sin. “Stemming the tide” is not a good strategy nor is it Biblical especially at the national level. We minimize the damage by starting with our families, communities, counties, state, etc. The bigger issue is not saving the nation from Biden; the bigger issue is saving the nation from God's judgment. So, apply Exodus 18:21 and go from there.

  • @therebeccamillerX

    @therebeccamillerX

    Ай бұрын

    Have you considered the sexual sins of Biden & Kennedy? Ok, so, back to a tie game…

  • @chrisr7597
    @chrisr7597Ай бұрын

    Young man was a solid rock for sure. God bless him.

  • @cindyconley2677
    @cindyconley2677Ай бұрын

    The young are eating their mother.

  • @aallen5256
    @aallen5256Ай бұрын

    Has anyone heard of Hind Rajab?? None of these men seem to have.

  • @joset4187
    @joset4187Ай бұрын

    Aren’t these protests against the indiscriminate killing/bombing of Palestinian civilians? Have these protests become violent or are protests now illegal? Peace.

  • @CanonPress

    @CanonPress

    Ай бұрын

    lol

  • @aallen5256

    @aallen5256

    Ай бұрын

    @@CanonPress there it is. the real face of Doug et al.

  • @joset4187

    @joset4187

    Ай бұрын

    @@CanonPress ???

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936Ай бұрын

    Opposition to genocide and Zionism is not antisemitic.

  • @hawktalk639

    @hawktalk639

    Ай бұрын

    Absolutely. It is quite Christian to be opposed to genocidal tyrants. Ask Bonhoffer.

  • @tomsanders5584

    @tomsanders5584

    Ай бұрын

    Neither is building a Straw Man.

  • @aallen5256

    @aallen5256

    Ай бұрын

    @@tomsanders5584 what straw man??

  • @aallen5256

    @aallen5256

    Ай бұрын

    @@tomsanders5584 Protesting the barbaric actions of Israel's far-right government is not antisemitism.

  • @eurekahope5310

    @eurekahope5310

    Ай бұрын

    The slogans and the actions of these gullible, ignorant, and reactionary protestors demonstrate that this isn't merely about Gaza/Israel, but against "colonialism," meritocracy, Christianity, and Jewish people. And at what point do we give up on our countrymen and women who are kidnapped by a hostile government? The Gazans could hand over the hostages and end this occupation today. But, no, they love the optics of continued occupations and the innocents they slaughter by using as human shields.

  • @JefferyStanley-jn7xn
    @JefferyStanley-jn7xnАй бұрын

    Your representing God Set a Goldly response just stand 6 foot apart. It's really not that hard to do

  • @toolegittoquit_001

    @toolegittoquit_001

    Ай бұрын

    Godly response …. By doing what the state says ….. Seems counterintuitive. Okay, this is just nonsense 😔

  • @CanonPress

    @CanonPress

    Ай бұрын

    Trump Lips : "WRONG"