When Did the Romans Become Italians? (Short Animated Documentary)

1700 years ago the people who lived in what's now Italy considered themselves to be Romans. Of course nowadays none of them do anymore which raises the question: when did this change occur? When did the Romans become Italians? To find out watch this short and simple animated documentary.
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  • @robynpeace9048
    @robynpeace90483 жыл бұрын

    As a neapolitan living in Naples I now identity myself as an ice cream flavor

  • @jneedle92

    @jneedle92

    3 жыл бұрын

    Only one?

  • @seangardner8965

    @seangardner8965

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wait which one

  • @brindade2004

    @brindade2004

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your sense of Humor is next level

  • @lucaschianonyc

    @lucaschianonyc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mamm r'o Carmine! Una delle cose piu orrende che abbia mai mangiato il Neapolitaner 🤣

  • @brindade2004

    @brindade2004

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trentfila6186 Neapolitan refers to all these three flavors.

  • @davethefish5
    @davethefish53 жыл бұрын

    “Romans, they existed, some stuff happened, and now they don’t. My thanks to James Bizonnette,”

  • @PANZERFAUST90

    @PANZERFAUST90

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Dave Hardy and Moe

  • @GiovanniPietro9000

    @GiovanniPietro9000

    3 жыл бұрын

    All Hail to James Bizonnette!

  • @gaditya4625

    @gaditya4625

    3 жыл бұрын

    James Bizonnette got more famous than Romans

  • @AidenClaws

    @AidenClaws

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was watching this and my friend was sitting across the room. I play the intro and he looks up and says “what kid gore are you watching” lol

  • @bigblue6917

    @bigblue6917

    3 жыл бұрын

    What ever happened to The Pastry Section. Could do with The Pastry Section about now with my cappuccino

  • @marcot3868
    @marcot38682 жыл бұрын

    What people fail to realize is that Italy as a geographical entity was already established before Rome, and its inhabitants were called Italic people. In fact, Italic people lived in the area a long way before Rome, and they were actually also the people who first settled in the river Tevere and founded Rome itself. Rome was an Italic city which later was conquered by the Etrurians, then gained independence and proceeded to conquer the other Italic cities and peoples, including the Etrurians themselves. But even within the long domain of the Roman Empire Italy and Italic peoples were acknowledged and considered Rome’s associates and allies with Rome as a ruling power. So the concept of Italy and Italians (Italic back then) existed before Rome, throughout Rome and after Rome. There isn’t actually a time when Romans became Italians. Romans were born as inhabitants of an Italian city and were primarily Italian people

  • @romeovairo6907

    @romeovairo6907

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank God somebody with a little bit of knowledge and common sense

  • @cherylmburton5577

    @cherylmburton5577

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it is in the Holy Bible Acts 10:1

  • @mae8646

    @mae8646

    2 жыл бұрын

    This would have been great to have been in the video 😂

  • @Nyx773

    @Nyx773

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm disappointed that your comment isn't in italics font

  • @circesgrotto

    @circesgrotto

    Жыл бұрын

    Uuuuuuuuuhh no, per nulla, che cazzo dici, che sono ste teorie stravaganti L'Italia come concetto geografico assume la forma attuale (isole escluse) solo durante il I secolo aC-I secolo dC, l'originale "Italia" era solo la punta meridionale della Calabria, abitata da un popolo che i Greci chiamavano Italoi. Non è mai esistito, prima della tarda Repubblica Romana, un concetto di un unico popolo italico, né di molteplici popoli italici uniti da un medesimo filone genetico. Il termine "italici" in questo contesto è riferito più ampiamente a tutti i popoli che abitavano la penisola al di fuori di Romani, Greci, Etruschi e Galli, ma non esiste un legame universale che collegava tutti quei popoli, i quali non erano nemmeno tutti di stirpe indoeuropea, e la cui cultura variava comunque in maniera notevole di area in area; nemmeno la classificazione di un ceppo "italico" regge più nella tradizionale divisione delle lingue indoeuropee, ed è stata superata da due differenti classificazioni, una osco-umbra e una latino-falisca, le quali non sono necessariamente più strette geneticamente tra di loro che con qualunque altro ramo della macrofamiglia indoeuropea. Per finire, di certo non si può dire nemmeno che sia esistito davvero un popolo italico nemmeno dopo l'unificazione romana: la decentralizzazione amministrativa dell'età tardoantica e la frammentazione politica altomedievale saranno il primo motore della nascita di singole identità locali che di certo non si vedevano come appartenenti a un unico popolo "italiano" (anche solo ipotizzando che queste identità davvero si identificassero poi in alcun modo, considerato che probabilmente il tipico contadino d'età medievale aveva ben altro a cui pensare). Durante il basso Medioevo, l'idea di una generica "italianità" (non necessariamente politica, e certamente non linguistica, ma quantomeno geografica e storico-culturale) comincia a diffondersi tra le élite intellettuali, e autori come Dante e Petrarca faranno spesso riferimento a questa percepita idea di una nazione italiana definitiva molto vagamente. Da questo certamente derivò nei secoli successivi l'idea di una élite intellettuale italiana. Ma l'idea di un popolo italiano, unito in lingua e cultura? Questa idea non avrà mai alcun significato effettivo almeno fino al XVIII secolo, quando i primi discorsi unitari cominciano a farsi strada nel discorso intellettuale dell'Illuminismo, e la Rivoluzione Francese, le Guerre Napoleoniche e la Restaurazione non fecero che alimentare sempre più l'idea di una comune identità italiana a cui la stragrande maggioranza degli italiani continuava comunque a non prendere parte, né vi avrebbe preso parte fino a dopo l'Unificazione, in un lento e faticoso processo di costruzione dell'identità che attraversò tantissime fasi (dalla scolarizzazione di massa alla Grande Guerra, dal fascismo al dopoguerra e il boom economico)

  • @creeproot
    @creeproot2 жыл бұрын

    almost everyone who mentions this topic seems to either forget to mention or misreport the fact that the “italian” identity is not merely a modern idea - the Roman Empire saw Italia (which is, by the way, a latin word) as the fatherland and birthplace of the Empire. _Italia (the Latin and Italian name for the Italian Peninsula) was the homeland of the Romans and metropole of Rome's empire in classical antiquity. According to Roman mythology, Italy was the ancestral home promised by Jupiter to Aeneas of Troy and his descendants, who were the founders of Rome_ _As provinces were being established throughout the Mediterranean, Italy maintained a special status which made it Domina Provinciarum ("Ruler of the Provinces"), and - especially in relation to the first centuries of imperial stability - Rectrix Mundi ("governor of the world") and Omnium Terrarum Parens ("parent of all lands"). Such a status meant that, within Italy in times of peace, Roman magistrates also exercised the Imperium domi (police power) as an alternative to the Imperium militiae (military power). Italy's inhabitants had Latin Rights as well as religious and financial privileges._ as a final note piece, I’d also like to present to you a curious example of how even the Italian language - despite having had 2500 years of time to diverge from the frozen-in-time form of Classical Latin studied in textbooks - can give us clues on the real connection between these two cultural identities, when analysed in its historical vocabulary. From the New Englander and Yale Review, January 1843: _“The great etymological affinity between Italian and Latin, is illustrated by the following lines addressed to Venice, by a citizen of that republic before its fall, which read equally in both languages”:_ Te saluto, alma Dea, Dea generosa, O gloria nostra, O Veneta Regina! In procelloso turbine funesto Tu regnasti secura; mille membra Intrepida prostrasti in pugna acerba. Per te miser non fui, per te non gemo; Vivo in pace per te. Regna, O beata, Regna in prospera sorte, in alta pompa, In augusto splendore, in aurea sede. Tu serena, tu placida, tu pia, Tu benigna; tu salva, ama, conserva.

  • @comunistas2227

    @comunistas2227

    10 ай бұрын

    deep

  • @johngarofano7356

    @johngarofano7356

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the enlightment.

  • @herobrinegreek9493

    @herobrinegreek9493

    9 ай бұрын

    Italia comes from the greek word "Etholia" (Αιτωλία)

  • @johngarofano7356

    @johngarofano7356

    9 ай бұрын

    @@herobrinegreek9493 You are 100% wrong .The ancient Greek word Etholia is of Italic derivation from the Oscan, Umbrian ,vitlu meaning bull, in latin vitellus , meaning calf . Outoulia thus meaning : Land of bulls. SIR not everything is of Greek origin!!

  • @herobrinegreek9493

    @herobrinegreek9493

    9 ай бұрын

    @@johngarofano7356 Etholia is in Greece my friend, and it is written Αιτωλία so idk how it can be of latin origin

  • @rushtest4echo737
    @rushtest4echo7373 жыл бұрын

    Mario + Pizza = Italy How do I, a history teacher, compete with these groundbreaking theories?

  • @xaviergonzalez44

    @xaviergonzalez44

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because Mario’s Italian and Italy’s the birthplace of pizza

  • @KR-mm4el

    @KR-mm4el

    3 жыл бұрын

    Get laid

  • @1nv15BL3

    @1nv15BL3

    3 жыл бұрын

    I too fail to understand why Japan and pizza make Italy.

  • @icantbelieveit3746

    @icantbelieveit3746

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@xaviergonzalez44 r/woosh

  • @xano2921

    @xano2921

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@icantbelieveit3746 go back to reddit, you barbarian

  • @williammerkel1410
    @williammerkel14103 жыл бұрын

    The frolicking through a field of flowers absolutely never gets old.

  • @leonardofranzinribeiro4220

    @leonardofranzinribeiro4220

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, it's absolutely brilliant

  • @itsblitz4437

    @itsblitz4437

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is rather funny.

  • @darknessnight1115

    @darknessnight1115

    3 жыл бұрын

    JUST KIDDING CRUSADE TIME

  • @AzazelMango

    @AzazelMango

    3 жыл бұрын

    It drives the point home every time

  • @youwanagethi

    @youwanagethi

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’d think that it would get old after some time, but fun fact: no.

  • @vladywashere
    @vladywashere Жыл бұрын

    Being culturally Italian is a beautiful definition, a bit like being German; it is not about borders and nations but identity, language and background.

  • @RadarHawk52

    @RadarHawk52

    Жыл бұрын

    And food

  • @marinaaaa2735

    @marinaaaa2735

    10 ай бұрын

    If that's true then why do italians hate their American descendants so much?

  • @vladywashere

    @vladywashere

    10 ай бұрын

    @@marinaaaa2735 never heard of this! I don’t

  • @mahomsy

    @mahomsy

    10 ай бұрын

    @@marinaaaa2735they mock them lovingly, but I don’t think they hate them.

  • @orlandoesa1002

    @orlandoesa1002

    10 ай бұрын

    German background 💀

  • @michelangelomissoni945
    @michelangelomissoni945 Жыл бұрын

    As the famous saying goes, on the dawn of Italian Unification, “We made Italy. Now we must make Italians” Italy and Italians have been a people long before the city state of Rome rose up. However, they fractured so much, within such a climatically diverse peninsula, that over a thousand+ years later they no longer felt a common identity. Even though they had always been geographically Italian.

  • @kellie8969
    @kellie89693 жыл бұрын

    When did the people in Italy stop calling themselves Roman and start calling themselves Italian? Between the years of 476 and 1861.

  • @julianniederwolfsgruber1360

    @julianniederwolfsgruber1360

    3 жыл бұрын

    476 up to this day

  • @tigermunky

    @tigermunky

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Rome wasn't built in a day!

  • @festethephule7553

    @festethephule7553

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tigermunky Wasn't destroyed in a day either, as it would turn out.

  • @leonardlangner9949

    @leonardlangner9949

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well some in Italy still do.

  • @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986

    @sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986

    3 жыл бұрын

    somewhere between the beginning and the end of the universe

  • @johnyricco1220
    @johnyricco12203 жыл бұрын

    It’s simple: Romans became Italians when they started wearing pants.

  • @Nimai_Aquino

    @Nimai_Aquino

    3 жыл бұрын

    Greatest error of western civilization.

  • @giangargo669

    @giangargo669

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's funny but it makes a lot of sense too

  • @Iason29

    @Iason29

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually..he's not wrong

  • @bustanut5876

    @bustanut5876

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol Rome in 3rd century to the rest

  • @bustanut5876

    @bustanut5876

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pants in rome is extremely common in 3rd to the rest until downfall of Rome

  • @JordanBeagle
    @JordanBeagle Жыл бұрын

    Wow, this was a lot more descriptive than I expected for a 3 minute video, kudos mate

  • @johnko2455
    @johnko24552 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this wonderful video. It answers a question that's been on my mind for a while.

  • @georgeprchal3924
    @georgeprchal39243 жыл бұрын

    When they stopped being played by British people in historical dramas.

  • @DEVS_VLTIMA

    @DEVS_VLTIMA

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao underrated comment

  • @gontrandjojo9747

    @gontrandjojo9747

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's the same with every European...

  • @IronElephantProductions

    @IronElephantProductions

    3 жыл бұрын

    Romeo & Juliet, Much Ado About Nothing and plenty more: 😳😅

  • @jesuschrist9513

    @jesuschrist9513

    3 жыл бұрын

    Forgive us, not many Romans are in the acting business in this day and age

  • @appleslover

    @appleslover

    3 жыл бұрын

    Omg literally When English speakers try to imitate the Romans they automatically do it with a British accent(south England)

  • @harveya1a952
    @harveya1a9523 жыл бұрын

    They would still exist if they had the financial support of James Bizonnette

  • @sas-qq1pd

    @sas-qq1pd

    3 жыл бұрын

    True

  • @tongsengpedas

    @tongsengpedas

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am sure the closest benefactor they could get was Iacomus Bisonetus

  • @KouNagai

    @KouNagai

    3 жыл бұрын

    James bizonnette is our savior

  • @wrjtung3456

    @wrjtung3456

    3 жыл бұрын

    And the other patrons

  • @withlessAsbestos

    @withlessAsbestos

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes definitely

  • @msalee360
    @msalee360 Жыл бұрын

    The cute block head art illustrations with fuzzy hair and modern hints like Mario and the pizza had me cracking up! Engaging and informative with a great sense of humor! Well done!

  • @rogersledz6793
    @rogersledz67932 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

  • @skeetersaurus6249
    @skeetersaurus62493 жыл бұрын

    The opening is most-accurate, "Romans, they existed, some stuff happened, now they don't". Time span? 2,000 years...give or take.

  • @chrisza9782

    @chrisza9782

    3 жыл бұрын

    True. Just like when Eric Andre said in his agnostic sermon "Jesus did some stuff, maybe..."

  • @xano2921

    @xano2921

    3 жыл бұрын

    *1300~

  • @MajorMlgNoob

    @MajorMlgNoob

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xano2921 510 bc - 1453 is 1,963 years lol If you think that the collapse of the Western Roman Empire is the end of the Roman Empire you could push the date up nearly a thousand years but the people we now call the Byzantines still referred to themselves as Roman and periodically controlled parts of Italy

  • @EniGmav34

    @EniGmav34

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MajorMlgNoob The Byzantine empire is the Roman empire just the eastern part and during the greek independence war people still refers themselves as roman so the legacy of the Roman empire last nearly 500 years after his downfall

  • @ladoga

    @ladoga

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MajorMlgNoob Yeah. Before asking when Romans became Italians one should critically define what Roman and Italian even mean. Maybe then there wouldn't be reason to ask. Hint. Romans didn't become Italians. Rome was a multicultural empire with many ethnicities and languages. Official ones being Classical Latin and Koine Greek. Today's Italian language is one continuous evolution from local dialects of Vulgar Latin. It is amazing how effective the propaganda of Holy Romans (Germans) and the Pope has been. Think for example how many videos about the fall of Rome there are on youtube? All those videos that can't even agree on the date or the certain event that would quantify as such. Meanwhile any serious historian knows that the Roman Empire (Imperium Romanum) factually ended in 1453 with the fall of Constantinople and the last Roman emperor Constantine XI. Things are so messed up that if you google "the last roman emperor" google returns "Romulus" (some kid that wasn't even recognized by the ruling emperor Flavius Zeno) :)

  • @TailsIsDisappointed
    @TailsIsDisappointed3 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: The manhole covers in Rome have the "SPQR" labels on them.

  • @imcarlosjr4898

    @imcarlosjr4898

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cool

  • @andrefarfan4372

    @andrefarfan4372

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mars

  • @Diamondman164

    @Diamondman164

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's so amazing that the original roman covers have been preserved there so long after the empire fell.

  • @TonyAnimatesStuff

    @TonyAnimatesStuff

    3 жыл бұрын

    nice

  • @emp96ElminD

    @emp96ElminD

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Diamondman164 SPQR is the symbol of modern Rome, those manhole covers have nothing to do with Rome 2000 years ago.

  • @Luckyhotsummer
    @Luckyhotsummer Жыл бұрын

    I randomly checked on one of the facts in your other video and was relieved that it was correct This is a nice channel and this is an interesting topic and a vague space in my knowledge

  • @YD-uq5fi
    @YD-uq5fi10 ай бұрын

    I have wondered about this for a long time. I am grateful someone thought to make this video.

  • @hamperfranklin9994
    @hamperfranklin99943 жыл бұрын

    2:42 Ah, yes Mario and Pizza. The two core values of being an Italian

  • @jaewok5G

    @jaewok5G

    3 жыл бұрын

    👐

  • @jamiebarba5701

    @jamiebarba5701

    3 жыл бұрын

    Super Mario

  • @termeownator

    @termeownator

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's Cappy, therefore Capetian not Itallian

  • @Alusnovalotus

    @Alusnovalotus

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@termeownator what about Capua. It’s Italian, no?

  • @jlshel42

    @jlshel42

    3 жыл бұрын

    Japanese game character + American fast food dish = Italy

  • @orbiter277
    @orbiter2773 жыл бұрын

    “Marble everything” lol

  • @hunterhealer8022

    @hunterhealer8022

    3 жыл бұрын

    I dont get the reference

  • @whitelion124

    @whitelion124

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hunterhealer8022 0:22

  • @bakthihapuarachchi3447

    @bakthihapuarachchi3447

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hunterhealer8022 Romans made lots of stuff out of marble

  • @PANZERFAUST90

    @PANZERFAUST90

    3 жыл бұрын

    fail

  • @itsblitz4437

    @itsblitz4437

    3 жыл бұрын

    The U.S. called

  • @madscientist8565
    @madscientist85652 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love how you depicted Victor Emmanuel II and Cavour

  • @alexisgreen-hernandez8604
    @alexisgreen-hernandez86049 ай бұрын

    Good job with video found it be informative and educational thank you. 😊

  • @kadencollins
    @kadencollins3 жыл бұрын

    ‘They existed, then some stuff happened, now they don’t’ probably the most ubiquitous historical statement of all time 😂

  • @dedbeet5845

    @dedbeet5845

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did he just "yada-yada" hundreds of years of Imperial conquest?

  • @scanida5070
    @scanida50703 жыл бұрын

    I‘d like to know: How did the rest of Europe react to the Franco-Prussian war?

  • @jaewok5G

    @jaewok5G

    3 жыл бұрын

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @brandonlyon730

    @brandonlyon730

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m still wondering how they reacted when France allied with the Ottoman Empire at one point.

  • @boombler4320

    @boombler4320

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brandonlyon730 you mean the Crimea war right?

  • @cynicat74

    @cynicat74

    3 жыл бұрын

    In short: They shat themselves. Every single major power expected a long, drawn out war, that was expected to last for years. They also expected France would win. When Germany took Paris, everyone was shocked. As a result, everyone started copying the Prussian General Staff, as well as their conscription, and mobilisation laws. The Ottomans, especially, were originally going to base their military reforms on France's army. After the war ended, they based it on the Germans, instead.

  • @brandonlyon730

    @brandonlyon730

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@boombler4320 No before that, when the Ottoman Empire was at the height of its power and was seen as the biggest threat of all of Europe that even the Hasburgs couldn’t contain them.

  • @priyanshupokhriyal1677
    @priyanshupokhriyal1677 Жыл бұрын

    I always used to wonder about that before watching this video, thanks!

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 Жыл бұрын

    I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!!

  • @Pemmont107
    @Pemmont1073 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: There's apparently a tiny population of ethnic Greeks living in the old city of Istanbul (about 2,000), who are still called "Rumi"' - The Romans.

  • @theodore6288

    @theodore6288

    3 жыл бұрын

    That and the entire Greek population being called romioi aka Romans

  • @AndrewPonti

    @AndrewPonti

    3 жыл бұрын

    That, and also I seem to remember seeing something somewhere that on a few select small remote Greek islands they still consider themselves romioi (Romans) and the last remnants of the Eastern empire.

  • @mitchelkvedar674

    @mitchelkvedar674

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AndrewPonti reallyy?

  • @InfoRome

    @InfoRome

    2 жыл бұрын

    The italians of Rome, 3 million people, all call themselves Romans dude.

  • @UnCavi

    @UnCavi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@InfoRome Thanks for your precious insight

  • @ThatOneGuy_James
    @ThatOneGuy_James3 жыл бұрын

    "Always has been" _Points spaghetti with malicious intent_

  • @davidjoelsson4929

    @davidjoelsson4929

    3 жыл бұрын

    @swarfega not true romans made it long ago

  • @davidjoelsson4929

    @davidjoelsson4929

    3 жыл бұрын

    @swarfega pasta and noodles is not complicated lmao its just boiled dough

  • @enisra_bowman

    @enisra_bowman

    3 жыл бұрын

    @swarfega that's the invention of some american PR Bloke made up the "Fact" to write some stuff an a box of crappy pasta

  • @ragingsage3973

    @ragingsage3973

    3 жыл бұрын

    @swarfega wow its almost like two distinct groups thousands of miles away from each other could invent something similar separately

  • @NoFailer

    @NoFailer

    3 жыл бұрын

    "You mamma'd your last mia"

  • @howfun6614
    @howfun66142 жыл бұрын

    Love this page and it’s content! But, i think you should consider adding like 2 minutes to these extra short videos and it would make the content a lot clearer and easier to remember lol

  • @cinemasanders977
    @cinemasanders97710 ай бұрын

    The soft brush edge for the characters hair is genius. 10/10

  • @davidrave563
    @davidrave5633 жыл бұрын

    people from Italy were calling themselves Italian since antiquity. In fact, one of the earliest events in the Roman Republic was a rebellion in which Italians demanded Roman citizens not just for the people in the region of the city of Rome, but for everyone in the peninsula, so there was already an identity there.

  • @lhistorienchipoteur9968

    @lhistorienchipoteur9968

    3 жыл бұрын

    I guess it started with multiple identities (not sure about an "italian" identity though), then the conquest of Rome, then everyone identified gardually as "romans" in the italian peninsula and the empire.

  • @cd852

    @cd852

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're not wrong; but there is a difference between an ancient "italic" and a modern "italian" - their connection is almost entirely a linguistic one. While italics were just one group of people among many living in ancient italy - Italians are a conglomeration of the individual identities of the people living on the peninsula from 1400-1820 - when the idea of being italian came to formation.

  • @cd852

    @cd852

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jimmyicus No. Italics were an ethno linguistic group who lived in ancient Italy. They included Latins, Romans, Faliscans, Umbrians, and other groups. They were not "Italians" because "Italy" was not really a concept in terms of an ethnic or national identity. It was a purely geographical term Other people that lived beside the italics in Italy were Etruscans, Greeks, and Gauls

  • @12_xu

    @12_xu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cd852 Italics were all the people living in Italy. Etruscans were considered Italics eventually. Also, there was an Italic identity as there was a Greek identity; and maybe even stronger, since the Italics cooperated with Rome to build its empire. This identity was founded on being allied to Rome; and it's also the root of the Medieval Italian identity: indeed every medieval poem about Italy (dated also before 1400 as you state) asks Italians to fight against the foreign conquerors to restore the Roman dominance in the world.

  • @cd852

    @cd852

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@12_xu Italy as a national or ethnic concept did not exist. The only correct thing you said there is that there was an italic identity. It did NOT encompass people living all over the italian peninsula. Just because etruscans were considered italics post roman conquest, does not mean they actually were. And greeks of magna graecia were definitely not italic in anyway.

  • @ChristianSannino1904
    @ChristianSannino19048 ай бұрын

    I'm Neapolitan and i'm from Naples, in my city all of us always said "i'm Neapolitan and not Italian" but the truth is we are Italians and also Romans

  • @sonofraven76
    @sonofraven763 ай бұрын

    I chuckle all the way through these animations, but I belly laughed so hard at the Neapolitan ice cream I nearly ruptured something. Well done!

  • @sirb_s6190
    @sirb_s61903 жыл бұрын

    "Its not impossible to govern the Italians, merely useless." -A guy who wanted to be Caesar

  • @diegomarchesini2141

    @diegomarchesini2141

    3 жыл бұрын

    I see u are a man of culture as well. But let me say that Caesar would be so frustrated, because u have compared him with someone who is as idiot as (mmm I dunno) actually most of political parties in Italy.

  • @finolacat8355

    @finolacat8355

    3 жыл бұрын

    Giovanni Giolitti is one of the many politicians this was attributed to, 1901

  • @diegomarchesini2141

    @diegomarchesini2141

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Simone De Filippo certo ahahah un generale che si vende ai germani. Ricorda un po' Arminio più che Cesare. Ma per piacere. Infatti da grande Cesare quale non era ci ha lasciato un'Italia ancora oggi preda del comunismo più becero, mischiato con progressismo e globalismo, e abbiamo definitivamente perso ogni possibilità di riallacciare rapporti con Corsica, Istria e dalmazia. Gg per mvssolini

  • @diegomarchesini2141

    @diegomarchesini2141

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Simone De Filippo il pesce puzza dalla testa. Che gli italiani siano per la maggiore disertori, traditori, di attitudine mafiosa e inaffidabili beh grazie hai scoperto davvero l'acqua calda. Per l'appunto dunque, conoscendo questa attitudine, non doveva fare gran parte delle cose che ha fatto, a mio parere. Guarda in Portogallo o in Spagna. Governi autocratici sono sopravvissuti fino agli anni 70, di stampo ultra nazionalista, senza dover per forza incappare in conflitti mondiali per poi uscirsene sconfitti e smembrati. La frase che disse sugli italiani, impossibili da governare, si ha ragione, ma non va declinata come una scusa per dire che mvssolini non ha fatto nulla di sbagliato in vita sua. Lvi doveva fare una cosa, senza chiamare in causa albori e fasti Dell impero di cui ha studiato ben poco a riguardo (visto poi con chi è andato ad allearsi), fare profonde riforme per unire e industrializzate l Italia da fiume al Brennero fino a Lampedusa. Stop. Chi troppo vuole, alla fine della fiera, nulla stringe.

  • @TheDorianTube

    @TheDorianTube

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@diegomarchesini2141 Mi sono quasi scordato di come gli Italiani scrivono in modo bizzarro. Fiere, pesci e acqua calda...wut? lol

  • @jimk9314
    @jimk93143 жыл бұрын

    Summary: Romans became Italians when they started allying with the British to defeat vampires and Aztec gods.

  • @gamebawesome

    @gamebawesome

    3 жыл бұрын

    While being helped by a Nazi Cyborg and later Magic Ghost people

  • @yukondave8389

    @yukondave8389

    3 жыл бұрын

    Add Texas to this and you have an average match of Age of Empires 2.

  • @lorenzomariani503

    @lorenzomariani503

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yukondave8389 a man of culture

  • @firstname1317

    @firstname1317

    3 жыл бұрын

    giorno

  • @clementlefevre5384

    @clementlefevre5384

    3 жыл бұрын

    *holy dubstep starts playing*

  • @adrianroksa7250
    @adrianroksa72502 жыл бұрын

    The guy running in the field with the caption marble everything is one of the best things I've seen in my life

  • @lordvalentine471
    @lordvalentine4712 жыл бұрын

    This was excellently done

  • @docvideo93
    @docvideo933 жыл бұрын

    2:19 PSA: When visiting Napoli, please don't lick locals.

  • @chriswicker6672

    @chriswicker6672

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, she liked it.

  • @lorisuprifranz

    @lorisuprifranz

    3 жыл бұрын

    That joke doesnt work in Italy. Is Neapolitan a kind of ice-cream in the US?

  • @docvideo93

    @docvideo93

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lorisuprifranz Yes, a popular ice cream flavor, hence the joke.

  • @abisspassenger

    @abisspassenger

    3 жыл бұрын

    It depends on the napolitan. Some of them might be very worth licking, haha.

  • @JCDenton3

    @JCDenton3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Speak for yourself, some of us might be ok with that

  • @thegiantmimir4664
    @thegiantmimir46643 жыл бұрын

    My great, great, grandfather, the fantastically named Baldassare Viscardini (1830-1896) born in Mondella, Province of Como, fought alongside Garibaldi during the seconda guerra d'indipendenza italiana in 1859. He's buried in Highgate cemetery in London and his descendants live on in the South East United Kingdom.

  • @XMarkxyz

    @XMarkxyz

    Жыл бұрын

    How did he end up in england?

  • @jasperchance3382

    @jasperchance3382

    Жыл бұрын

    That name!

  • @LorenzoChiaveriniDBTF

    @LorenzoChiaveriniDBTF

    Жыл бұрын

    wtf

  • @rudyvazz

    @rudyvazz

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@XMarkxyz because unification of what is called italy had been sponsorized by England...it's a fact

  • @AndrewLumsden

    @AndrewLumsden

    Жыл бұрын

    And Garibaldi is now only known for biscuits!😂

  • @nik65stgt60
    @nik65stgt6011 ай бұрын

    Great content!

  • @mattlukasik2486
    @mattlukasik24862 жыл бұрын

    My family is from Lombardi and man is nice to learn about your ancestors homeland.

  • @williamtheconqueror7807
    @williamtheconqueror78073 жыл бұрын

    When they made Pizza, of course. Also, "Romans existed" is a new meme now.

  • @pinifera7761

    @pinifera7761

    3 жыл бұрын

    fun fact: the Roman writer Vergil describes Rome's mythical ancestor eating tomato-less pizza as soon as they arrive on the shores of Italy...

  • @wibblywobblysineline509

    @wibblywobblysineline509

    3 жыл бұрын

    fun fact about Pizza, The Aeneid refers to Aeneas (legendary[read fictional] founder of Rome) knowing where to settle Rome as the place where they eat their tables, i.e. pizza. The Aeneid was written before 0 AD and refers to pizza as being ancient from before Rome. So while tomato sauce is relatively new, pizza itself probably predated Rome.

  • @speedypichu6833

    @speedypichu6833

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also Mario was their

  • @aconglomerador_de_hienas24

    @aconglomerador_de_hienas24

    3 жыл бұрын

    They played mario kart all day also

  • @keepout3553

    @keepout3553

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wibblywobblysineline509 Aeneas wasn't the founder of Rome, he founded Lavinium

  • @00MSG
    @00MSG3 жыл бұрын

    On the other hand, Italia has been the name for the peninsula since Roman times, and Dante already spoke of Italy as his native country/region, even though his identification with Florence was much stronger.

  • @AbuHajarAlBugatti

    @AbuHajarAlBugatti

    3 жыл бұрын

    Legio 1 Romana Italica. The first professional Legion. Only recruited from 6ft tall(180cm) men. Which I find funny that so many such tall people existed in italy back then. Since the romans were scares of the germans for all being massively tall

  • @amg9878

    @amg9878

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AbuHajarAlBugatti6 romans foot were 1.77 not 1.80, in the Roman Empire if you were 6' romans foot or taller you were considered very tall, becouse the average height of men was 1.65 and the average legionnaire was 1.70.

  • @63MacGuy
    @63MacGuy2 жыл бұрын

    WOW that was fast😢 I’ll have to watch this Video 2-3 more times to ingest it all😄

  • @ghostlightdc
    @ghostlightdc2 жыл бұрын

    Fun facts: The name Italy predates Rome. Rome still exists as do Romans. Rome is on the Italian peninsula. Romans are and always were Italians. So were the Etruscans, Sabines, Villanovans, Veneti, Samnites, etc. Those people and their languages are usually referred to as Italic. Italic is just a fancy word for Italian. The end.

  • @Mortebianca
    @Mortebianca3 жыл бұрын

    It's a me, Morte. E porto corona.

  • @luigibellini811

    @luigibellini811

    3 жыл бұрын

    Il re del sud è qui

  • @massimopericolo9579

    @massimopericolo9579

    3 жыл бұрын

    Allora non siamo soli, Odino (mortebianca) è con noi, pensavo di essere l'unico italiano a seguire questi canali di storia. Già che ci sono, avrei bisogno di aiuto per ottenere più contenuti riguardanti l'italia, come nel canale ww2 della community timeghost.

  • @itsblitz4437

    @itsblitz4437

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it Italian or Latin?

  • @luigibellini811

    @luigibellini811

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@itsblitz4437 Italian

  • @Death6man

    @Death6man

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@itsblitz4437 that's italian. The latin version might be "Ego Mors sum, et coronam porto.

  • @jaca2899
    @jaca28993 жыл бұрын

    0:46 I love how you drew that Goth 🤣

  • @JayTemple
    @JayTemple Жыл бұрын

    2:43 love the picture of Mario's hat

  • @lordbeebus9842
    @lordbeebus98422 жыл бұрын

    This is something I have wondered quite frequently.

  • @pickledkatsu
    @pickledkatsu3 жыл бұрын

    if james bisonette ever stops being a patreon, these videos will never be the same.

  • @cerebrummaximus3762

    @cerebrummaximus3762

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean James Bisonnette jokes can be funny, but at this point, the video which is supposed to be a historical documentary has a comment section filled with James Bisonnette jokes

  • @artanisplays3982

    @artanisplays3982

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lets donate to James Bisonette so he never stop donating to History matters

  • @SunnySJamil

    @SunnySJamil

    3 жыл бұрын

    Anyone wanna trump James Bisonette's Patreon donation so that their name comes first instead of his? Who has deep pockets?

  • @twothreebravo

    @twothreebravo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@artanisplays3982 Are you suggesting James Bisonette start a Patreon to keep up his Patreoning? It's BRILLIANT!

  • @quidam_surprise

    @quidam_surprise

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@artanisplays3982 I love this. 😂

  • @spdutahraptor777
    @spdutahraptor7773 жыл бұрын

    "Neaopolitans" **shows an ice cream** I love this channel so much

  • @ScriptureUnbroken
    @ScriptureUnbroken2 жыл бұрын

    *There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,* Acts 10:1 circa 40AD, 'band' meaning a specific cohort of the Legion (in this case Legio X Fretensis) See also Tacitus writings on 'band' meaning a cohort of a legion. Gruter also gives an inscription in which the Italian band is mentioned, which was found on a marble table in the Forum Sempronii. Also: *And when it was determined that we should sail into Italy, they delivered Paul and certain other prisoners unto one named Julius, a centurion of Augustus' band.* Acts 27:1

  • @deltafire12
    @deltafire122 жыл бұрын

    0:21 EXACTLY why I subscribed! The more I see these people celebrate dancing on the flowers the more I laugh!

  • @cdcdrr
    @cdcdrr2 жыл бұрын

    Greeks: We're Romans. Germans: We're Italians. Italians: We're Venitians.

  • @giuvannicammora2821

    @giuvannicammora2821

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am roman. And im not greek 😏. Im italian. Ha .

  • @stephmod7434

    @stephmod7434

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@giuvannicammora2821 the Greeks are the people with the most Roman dna 😉

  • @giuvannicammora2821

    @giuvannicammora2821

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stephmod7434 i know it 😅 I am "roman" and i have italian, greek and germanic DNA 😅😍❤️❤️❤️😅

  • @stephmod7434

    @stephmod7434

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@giuvannicammora2821 yes

  • @NoName-hg6cc

    @NoName-hg6cc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stephmod7434 Ahahahahahaha nope. And it matters less than culture

  • @Sly88Frye
    @Sly88Frye3 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love that math problem you put on that chalkboard near the end. Mario's hat plus pizza equals Italian

  • @kathypiazza7228

    @kathypiazza7228

    2 жыл бұрын

    Except to actual Italian born or 1st maybe 2nd generations of Italians living outside of Italy.

  • @kemarisite

    @kemarisite

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Dance! Dance, you amusing little stereotype!"

  • @charlesedwardandrewlincoln8181
    @charlesedwardandrewlincoln81812 жыл бұрын

    In Virgil’s Aeneid, the term Italian is frequently used. It was written between 29-19 BCE.

  • @Chamdar17

    @Chamdar17

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, it is significant that he does that, as the term in prior centuries had referred to only the southernmost part of what became known as Calabria. Virgil is using the term in a different way than had been the case in prior generations, a unifying way, as fits with his narrative.

  • @sgtass1
    @sgtass12 жыл бұрын

    IDK why but the thumbnail for this video is hilarious. Like a Italian Pokemon evolution

  • @Franco-in9jo
    @Franco-in9jo3 жыл бұрын

    0:38 “Salve” is the same in Italian as well.

  • @gametester490

    @gametester490

    3 жыл бұрын

    salve means to save in spanish

  • @Franco-in9jo

    @Franco-in9jo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gametester490 in Italian (and Latin) it means “hello” but in a more polite manner.

  • @marktaylor2087

    @marktaylor2087

    3 жыл бұрын

    For some fuckin reason, salve in English is like an ointment or something

  • @gametester490

    @gametester490

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marktaylor2087 you mean salvia, an herb, called the same in Spanish and portuguese

  • @marktaylor2087

    @marktaylor2087

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gametester490 I do not mean salvia. Which is "a" herb, not "an" herb.

  • @jreiland07
    @jreiland073 жыл бұрын

    Imagine an Italian hopping in a time machine to visit the Romans. Roman: “You’re from my future? I can’t wait to hear about all the great military glories my descendants have achieved!” Italian: 😬

  • @romainvicta8817

    @romainvicta8817

    3 жыл бұрын

    -Angry mussolini noises-

  • @christianfreedom-seeker934

    @christianfreedom-seeker934

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good laugh on that one! 😄😄😄😄👍

  • @Carewolf

    @Carewolf

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least they still have an unstable government. Some traditions never die.

  • @Nikki-tx6kh

    @Nikki-tx6kh

    3 жыл бұрын

    'Well... we're good at Eurovision. And at football, except for last World Cup"

  • @emrage

    @emrage

    3 жыл бұрын

    and tutti fruitti

  • @Kasaix
    @Kasaix4 ай бұрын

    That thumbnail is like an Animorphs cover, and it's great.

  • @nik65stgt60
    @nik65stgt6010 ай бұрын

    Super content!

  • @0SgtRoadkill0
    @0SgtRoadkill03 жыл бұрын

    pizza + mario = Italy, that right there is some academic level formula. 10/10

  • @annoyed707
    @annoyed7073 жыл бұрын

    When Did the Romans Become Italians? Answer: Some time in the pasta. (Commencing seeing of myself out...)

  • @paullee5573

    @paullee5573

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rubbish. It was when they built the leaning tower of pizza.

  • @CieJe.Alexander

    @CieJe.Alexander

    3 жыл бұрын

    I give that comment; 🍅🍅🍅🍅

  • @peterharrison5833

    @peterharrison5833

    3 жыл бұрын

    @ annoyed707---what a saucy answer!

  • @peterharrison5833

    @peterharrison5833

    3 жыл бұрын

    @ annoyed707---what a saucy answer!

  • @FutureMan420Blazer

    @FutureMan420Blazer

    3 жыл бұрын

    You son of a .... LOLz

  • @amg9878
    @amg9878 Жыл бұрын

    Bruh the Italian peninsula has always existed and the Romans called themselves Italics like all the inhabitants of Italy at the time. Even the writers of 1000-1500 years ago referred to themselves as Italians, because they lived in the Italian Peninsula and spoke ancient Italian which was initially the Florentine dialect derived directly from Latin. The united nation of today was born in 1861 when it was definitively reunified under the single name of Italy. But Italy and the Italic race like the Romans existed since before the Roman Empire, like the Greeks.

  • @sukidabean4424
    @sukidabean4424 Жыл бұрын

    So, you’re telling me that Napoleon encouraged a sense of Italian-ness? “It’s always Napoleon…”

  • @vanorsdelry
    @vanorsdelry3 жыл бұрын

    I know a guy who is 30 years old and says "don't call me Italian, I'm Sicilian. " so I think some of the people are still identifying by region of birth. Very interesting to me.

  • @WFASPigeonGang

    @WFASPigeonGang

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not italian, I'm venetian. Veneto Stato.

  • @hugoleonardoamaral586

    @hugoleonardoamaral586

    3 жыл бұрын

    Theres a book by Morris West(The Salamander) that states that as well. Apparently there's a lot of people who identify themselves first with their region and then by the country. Or at least they make sure to let you know from which region they are from. I've met 3 Italians in my life. All of them said "I'm Italian, from [insert Rome, Sicily or Napoli here]"

  • @danc7934

    @danc7934

    3 жыл бұрын

    So for me, who lives in Moldova, an ethnical romanian I may call myself a Cimislian. Awesome

  • @barrankobama4840

    @barrankobama4840

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually more now than 150 years ago. Since the 90's regionalism become very popular across Europe, in particular in Italy and Spain.

  • @ragnarrudstrom3394

    @ragnarrudstrom3394

    3 жыл бұрын

    I, a 24 years old italian, when asked where I come from I always specify that I'm Lombard AND Italian

  • @jordengg3629
    @jordengg36293 жыл бұрын

    The thumbnail's joke will go over many people's head

  • @IHeliosI

    @IHeliosI

    3 жыл бұрын

    Animorphs

  • @guillaumegiroux9425

    @guillaumegiroux9425

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t get it

  • @buttlicker7670

    @buttlicker7670

    3 жыл бұрын

    Damn, I read those books as a kid and even I didn't pick up on it lol

  • @jalarasstudios414

    @jalarasstudios414

    3 жыл бұрын

    Didn’t get it until I took another look after reading your comment. Nice Animorphs reference. Lol

  • @aperson22222

    @aperson22222

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed, I was quite impressed by the deep cut.

  • @willteuscher8253
    @willteuscher82532 жыл бұрын

    I like this because it gives me new branching off points of interest to investigate.

  • @rosyrussell5209
    @rosyrussell52092 жыл бұрын

    All I know is that I love Italy and its people! Love its history too .l can put my fingers on the Colosseum and see the Roman centurions marching towards me... wonderful.

  • @VenatusUprising
    @VenatusUprising3 жыл бұрын

    They didn't watch skillshare, so they couldn't survive.

  • @CallieMasters5000

    @CallieMasters5000

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was all due to a lack of SquareSpace, Audible and Nord VPN.

  • @Xdalz27

    @Xdalz27

    3 жыл бұрын

    no they not playing raid shadow legend

  • @maryocecilyo3372

    @maryocecilyo3372

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CallieMasters5000 lol

  • @randomobserver8168
    @randomobserver81683 жыл бұрын

    Yes but the peninsula was called Italia since pre-Roman times, the Romans spent a good deal of effort subjugating the other Italian peoples, and the idea that there was a territory called Italia and to some degree an understanding that even in the empire there could be Italians versus Syrians versus Africans and so on among the empire's population was present. So technically the Romans were a subset of Italians, absorbed all the other Italians, extended their name to a lot of non Italians, and then their empire collapsed and the people in Italian slowly started calling themselves Italians. Or even something more local. They didn't make the name up when Rome fell.

  • @goranpersson7726

    @goranpersson7726

    2 жыл бұрын

    i mean even during roman times that area was in the province of italia... although northern italy spent some time being called cisalpine gaul

  • @cabellones

    @cabellones

    Жыл бұрын

    @@goranpersson7726 and the south being magna grecia...

  • @alessandrom7181

    @alessandrom7181

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cabellones It was Romans that called it Magna Graecia, not certainly the people there. Also there were already Italic people in the south long before Greeks.

  • @cabellones

    @cabellones

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alessandrom7181 after 400 years of greek and punic assimilaton, they were a minority in there... greeks wee mostly predominant

  • @switchdogdotorg

    @switchdogdotorg

    10 ай бұрын

    wrong . calabria was called italia . not the whole peninsula . that was ancient greek times

  • @denisp8432
    @denisp8432 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for answering my niche historical questions

  • @sitandchill2897
    @sitandchill28972 жыл бұрын

    More pivotal field-frolicking moments of history pliss 🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼

  • @nobodyeverinhistory
    @nobodyeverinhistory3 жыл бұрын

    Short answer: When they've stopped rome-ing other countries.

  • @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014

    @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014

    3 жыл бұрын

    When they stoped being ROME-antique

  • @mrniceguy7168
    @mrniceguy71683 жыл бұрын

    Makes you wonder how the Chinese managed to maintain a Chinese “ethnicity” when they basically have a ton of dialects and regional histories that is akin to the Roman Empire and successor states like Italy, Spain, France, etc. They share a common linguistic and cultural ancestry, but they’re obviously not the same.

  • @mapache-ehcapam

    @mapache-ehcapam

    3 жыл бұрын

    Han go brrrrr

  • @vladprus4019

    @vladprus4019

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because of the fact they had concept of single, centralized country for very long time. Key word is "centralized". Chinese Empires had much higher control over territories than most of Eurasian empires before industrial revolution.

  • @mrniceguy7168

    @mrniceguy7168

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vladprus4019 This along with a unified writing system probably is the answer.

  • @duck1ente

    @duck1ente

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same shit with "arabs"

  • @mrniceguy7168

    @mrniceguy7168

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@duck1ente Arabs never really lived in an Arabstan or whatever, they’re analogous to the Hispanicization of Latin America, where it just became a cultural and language thing.

  • @nebojsag.5871
    @nebojsag.58712 жыл бұрын

    "What happened to the Romans?" "You're lookin at `em!" -Anthony Soprano

  • @nacho82it17
    @nacho82it172 ай бұрын

    "Iuravit in mea verba tota Italia." (All Italy swore by my words) - Octavianus Augustus - "Vir autem quidam in Caesarea nomine Cornelius, centurio cohortis, quae dicitur Italica" (Now there was a certain man in Caesarea named Cornelius, centurion of a military division which is called Italica) - Acts of the Apostles 10:1 - Much older quotes can probably be found by searching, and perhaps others cannot be found or understood in the ancient dead Italic languages, ​​even by searching. However, I understand that it could be a bit boring :-)

  • @macsnafu
    @macsnafu3 жыл бұрын

    This is an often forgotten part of history that is rarely covered. Thank you. Also, thanks for continuing to create *short* videos. 20-30 minute videos really eat into my time.

  • @englishteacher1865
    @englishteacher18653 жыл бұрын

    From Wikipedia Genetic history of Italy: Based on DNA analysis, there is evidence of ancient regional genetic substructure and continuity within modern Italy dating to the pre-Roman and early Roman periods. DNA analysis also demonstrates that ancient Greek colonization had a significant lasting effect on the local genetic landscape of Southern Italy and Sicily (Magna Graecia), with modern people from that region having significant Greek admixture. Latin samples from Rome in the Republican (early Roman) period, were generally found to genetically cluster closest to modern Northern and Central Italians (four out of six were closest to Northern and Central Italians, while the other two were closest to Southern Italians).

  • @jml732

    @jml732

    3 жыл бұрын

    Genetics don't really matter - When it comes to Rome it is more of a legal question, than an ethnic one.

  • @englishteacher1865

    @englishteacher1865

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@jml732 You're right, but some are trying to say that Italians are not related to Italic peoples, and what they are saying is false.

  • @zacharyiler136

    @zacharyiler136

    3 жыл бұрын

    Italians are Romans the same way Mexicans are Aztecs. They have genetics from them, but they have been mixed with invading populations so often that its hard to call them the same people. Alot of older cultures are like that. The amount of Viking blood in people from Ireland is silly.

  • @englishteacher1865

    @englishteacher1865

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zacharyiler136 You have to prove that. Mexico has been massively colonized: Italy?

  • @niaraa8378

    @niaraa8378

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@englishteacher1865 thoose studies are nice. i discover that dna in my country (france) we still have hudge part of celtic legacy instead of germanic Frank and Roman (but they are both the other majors contributor to our dna

  • @Corn_Squared
    @Corn_Squared Жыл бұрын

    The thumbnail is just great

  • @johnledingham852
    @johnledingham8522 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed that flash in the pan explanation. (I think)

  • @lordfedjuvekinval252
    @lordfedjuvekinval2523 жыл бұрын

    Well, i'd say there was some loose idea of "Italian-ness" even before the Renaissance. Dante Alighieri recognised Italy as a distinct cultural entity in the 1300s and he wasn't the first to mention it either.

  • @riccardopio294

    @riccardopio294

    3 жыл бұрын

    The idea of an italian culture preceded even the roman empire itself. In 80 bc, during the republic, the italians revolted agsinst Rome asking for more rights, and they already called themselves "italici".

  • @lhistorienchipoteur9968

    @lhistorienchipoteur9968

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is a difference between one person identifing multiple peoples as similar and how the peoples indentify themselves.

  • @Boretheory

    @Boretheory

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lhistorienchipoteur9968 maybe because in the year 3000 before Christ identifications weren’t a thing or had the modern meaning?

  • @lhistorienchipoteur9968

    @lhistorienchipoteur9968

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Boretheory Don't know. I know some basic facts but that's not in my knowledge.

  • @Chamdar17

    @Chamdar17

    Жыл бұрын

    @@riccardopio294 Well, dividing the days of Roman expansion between pre-Augustus and post-Augustus is an anachronism, the "Roman Empire" can really be dated to well before the Social Wars, even before the Samnite Wars a few centuries earlier. IIRC the Romans started referring to the peninsula itself as "Italia" (rather than just the tiny southern region in Calabria) during the Samnite wars as they accrued more and more territory. It was specifically BECAUSE OF this expansion and specifically Roman re-purposing of the term that the 'socii' found it useful to use the term. But if you want to specify the empire as only coming into existence when Augustus came to power... well, it ignores actual history but it might be useful in an academic sense, kinda like calling the eastern Roman empire "the Byzantine Empire" even though no such thing existed until some historian invented the term centuries after its collapse.

  • @yumyumtunafish
    @yumyumtunafish3 жыл бұрын

    Many Italians still refer to their region when they meet other Italians. For many Italian being Napolitan or Scillian and so on comes first. My grandad did not learn Italian until he had to fight in ww2 he only spoke local dialect. My nan on the other hand, don't think she ever learned proper Italian ever

  • @gio7799

    @gio7799

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Demy Troy maybe you can't communicate in Italian with some nonne or nonni over 70/80 years old just because they didn't go to school, I'm 56 years old and I speak proper Italian, my mother is 78 years old and she studied only for 5 years but she speaks Sardinian and proper Italian, my grandmother spoke only Sardinian, as you can see you can find easily Italians that can speak proper Italian and even a sort of English 😁

  • @AbuHajarAlBugatti

    @AbuHajarAlBugatti

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know some from Apullia and they also only say Apullia

  • @jackieyo6128

    @jackieyo6128

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Varoon Interesting, i'm an italian (better tuscan) with french roots from the Provence. I'm curious: did people from Provence felt disconnected as well from the generic concept of being "french" or they felt totally french?

  • @iulianhodorog9979

    @iulianhodorog9979

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's true for most nations 😅

  • @Billswiftgti

    @Billswiftgti

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are localists like us in Greece. Nothing bad about it.

  • @Ahajamo1990
    @Ahajamo19902 жыл бұрын

    Why is the hanging coat of arms at 2:26 looking like a huge pepperoni pizza slice? XD

  • @flawyerlawyertv7454
    @flawyerlawyertv74543 ай бұрын

    Thanks! :D

  • @sassycat
    @sassycat3 жыл бұрын

    I remember when the comments section wasn't filled with James Bissonette jokes..

  • @PANZERFAUST90

    @PANZERFAUST90

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it gets old.

  • @MuchWhittering

    @MuchWhittering

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think it was sometime around the time the Romans became Italians.

  • @Dayvit78

    @Dayvit78

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's only one way for it to end - not have that same d*mn sentence at the end of every video - "I'd like to thank my patrons..."

  • @anonvideo738

    @anonvideo738

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Dayvit78 He did change the order a few times but anytime he didnt start off with james bizonette people would comment on it.

  • @wilhelmbittrich88

    @wilhelmbittrich88

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can someone please explain the whole James Bisonette thing to me? I am a somewhat new subscriber.

  • @Suppiluliuma_1
    @Suppiluliuma_13 жыл бұрын

    Italian Nationalism Formula Mario+Pizza+Hand Gesture =🇮🇹

  • @lonewolf1625

    @lonewolf1625

    3 жыл бұрын

    You missing an empire there mate

  • @zersky495

    @zersky495

    3 жыл бұрын

    A pfp of culture

  • @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    @giorgiodifrancesco4590

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mario is a japanese character...pizza is one of thousand italians products (you are too blind to know others). Hand Gesture? Each people has them. Look for De Funés films.

  • @BeIteshazzar

    @BeIteshazzar

    3 жыл бұрын

    +Beautiful Women

  • @semipenguin
    @semipenguin2 күн бұрын

    Somehow I missed this one. Glad I watched it

  • @sanarchy3101
    @sanarchy31012 жыл бұрын

    that light blue to highlight the map was super confusing with the water, had to pause everytime to understand

  • @isaacwilcox3010
    @isaacwilcox30103 жыл бұрын

    One thing I love about this is channel is that every topic is something I have always wanted to know but have never thought about. How do you come up with all your video ideas?

  • @JB-yb4wn

    @JB-yb4wn

    3 жыл бұрын

    James Bissonette, ask him.

  • @wyattangle

    @wyattangle

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious about the answer to this as well.

  • @wyattangle

    @wyattangle

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JB-yb4wn Wait...your initials...is it...could it be???

  • @JB-yb4wn

    @JB-yb4wn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wyattangle No, I am but the messenger. All bow to the great Bissonette! 😔

  • @taiwanesechainei5863

    @taiwanesechainei5863

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wyattangle the legendary james bissonette actually commented on 1 video

  • @frostyblade8842
    @frostyblade88423 жыл бұрын

    This was hilarious. Great content as always dude. You make me proud to a history major

  • @sstilsons
    @sstilsons2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that was fast!

  • @YelpBullhorn
    @YelpBullhorn2 жыл бұрын

    The unification of Italy is quite a recent thing: 1815-1871. The colour representing the royal family that ruled the united nation was blue, which is why the Italian football team wear blue, and are one of a few countries that don’t wear colours pertaining to their flag, in Italy’s case - 🇮🇹

  • @ScapularSaves

    @ScapularSaves

    Жыл бұрын

    Spain wears Red!

  • @aceofhearts573
    @aceofhearts5733 жыл бұрын

    Corsica is french today. I cry every time I think of that.

  • @gazpachopolice7211

    @gazpachopolice7211

    3 жыл бұрын

    Blew my mind when I learnt that Napoleon was actually Italian.

  • @Iason29

    @Iason29

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gazpachopolice7211 It's usually foreigners that make the most efficient rulers who show up and fix up your shit

  • @Iason29

    @Iason29

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea Corsica was like the main possession of Genoa since forever, but after the 7 years war when France pretty much lost everything to the British like in India and North America, their last annexation of theirs before the revolution was some kind of deal they made with the Genoese to give them the island in exchange of some sort of guarantees or whatever. can't remember the details. Anyways by the time napoleon went to the artillery academy in France as a boy was just a few years after that so many snobs there never saw him exactly as french citizen.

  • @aceofhearts573

    @aceofhearts573

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Iason29 Republic of Genoa was in insane debt so they gave Corsica to France to cover debt payment. Insane right

  • @Iason29

    @Iason29

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aceofhearts573 Oh wow ok thanks for telling me, Seems the genoese did same corrupt shit as the Venetians. I didn't know this. I knew the Venetians for example began the 18th century insanely rich because of their successes the two previous centuries and by 1800 they had nothing left because all the rich families and people too squandered their wealth on gambling, festivals and building huge mansions. People love going to Venice today thinking the palazzos on the great channel are the greatest thing without realizing most of the buildings in Venice are practically "new" and also represent Venice's downfall.

  • @ReaverPrime
    @ReaverPrime3 жыл бұрын

    That ice cream gag had me rolling for a few minutes.

  • @nickskybart5342
    @nickskybart53422 жыл бұрын

    This was really interesting-thanks! How about making a video about how Latin morphed into medieval Italian, or should I go elsewhere for that?

  • @Boretheory

    @Boretheory

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dante basically said they should use Tuscan the other Italians poets and philosophers agreed and Italian was made then it expanded the percentage of Italians that spoke it and you have the Italians speaking “ italian” ( rebranded Tuscan )

  • @Boretheory

    @Boretheory

    2 жыл бұрын

    It also worth to note that since everyone keeps acting like the south did nothing and the rest of Italy hated them which is false: that the Sicilians kickstarted the Tuscan evolution into Italian during the Siculo-Tuscan poetry movement which contributed a lot and most of successful Italians military leaders recently being from the south

  • @riccardomallardo7779

    @riccardomallardo7779

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@Boretheory not quite, italian is the evolution of Latin but heavily influenced by germanic, the grammar rules were different all over the peninsula though and thanks to Dante tuscan became the standard grammar, but the language itself wasn't tuscan. For example the letter g in the world Famiglia is a tuscan thing, but the word isn't tuscan, it comes from latin familia. Same with figlio, from latin filius it became filio and then the tuscans added a g, but they didn't invent the word. In general the "gl"and "gn" are tuscan inventions, consilio=consiglio is a good example as well. Anyway italian is not tuscan, it just uses the tuscan grammar rules when it comes to pronunciation, coniugazione of verbs and stuff like that

  • @Take_it_E-z
    @Take_it_E-z2 жыл бұрын

    I like how you used the Neopolitan ice cream color flag for the florentines- absolutely hilarious! That's a color anyone could agree on! Strawberry, Vannila, and Chocolate!!!!

  • @randomteen5610
    @randomteen56103 жыл бұрын

    Rome, forever alive in our hearts.

  • @Iason29

    @Iason29

    3 жыл бұрын

    Reminds of this wonderful song of Rome total war Rome forever by jeff van Dyke lol. His wife had a nice voice