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When a Typical Pattaya Condo Just Won't Do
The newest Condo to dot the Pattaya Skyline is located in the middle of Jomtien Beach and is called The Copacabana. Today we take a look at this huge megaplex condo and some of the many amenities it offers including the private pool rooms which are anything buy typical here in town.
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This is one of the best coverage of the Copacobana Jomtien condo on youtube. Love your videos. Keep it up!
An interesting FYI: If from the upper floors you had looked down at the vacant lot on the South side of the Copa., you would have seen a large swath of newly cleared land, extending from 2nd Road almost to Beach Rd. They have actually begun construction of what will be the Jomtien Beach branch of the extensive Monorail project planned for the greater Pattaya area, scheduled to be finished and in operation in about 5 years. There will be a terminal station right next to the Copacabana. This will probably be a huge benefit for owners once finished, increasing value considerably. If you take a ride in the area off the other side of 2nd rd, around the Go-Cart track and the Bungee Jump facility you will see a lot of other groundwork being done for this immense project that can't help but have a huge impact on Jomtien. Enjoy it for what it is now, folks because everything will be changing once it's done.
@JAMESBOND69able
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info 👍. I have loved visiting Jomtien for ten years. Unfortunately, I think some of the development will not be beneficial.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Also another new condo being built right next door
@clocktowerhill8760
Жыл бұрын
I have Feb 2023 to find a full time condo in the Jomtien area. Glad options are increasing.
@ramsesds7325
Жыл бұрын
Do you know which company will build the monorail?
@davidj.7779
Жыл бұрын
@@ramsesds7325 Right now, looks like a mix of contractors doing ground-work. I may have to backtrack on the Monorail claim. I checked the area yesterday and it's now looking more like a drainage project. Time will tell.
Hi Lucas! Thanks for showing us the Copa. Think I could be interested in a 70sq meter but here's the thing........all the Pattaya vloggers get our attention showing condos that get our interest but there is never ever any talk about condo fees or maintenance and upkeep responsibilities and parking fees and hiring housekeeping services etc, etc. Let's consider the personal pool units for example. Apparently everyone wants those pools but they don't maintain themselves and require more than daily attention. That whole pool area is open to wind, sun, sea air damage not to mention the filtration equipment and chemicals that are a constant drain on the wallet. I like the Copa but would never have my own pool again......so what are these costs that no one talks about??? I ask because here in the US I've looked at Condos that I liked until I found out how much the monthly condo fees are and at times they're more than the monthly mortgage. Also are the properties properly maintained over time? I also ask because once I cash out of Baltimore I ain't never coming back lol
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Monthly maintenance fees are generally between 40 and 55 baht per square meter and generally paid annually in one lump sum. This only applies to the owner of the unit, if they chose to rent their unit, they continue to pay the maintenance fees which are totally transparent to the renter.
@simenwu5499
Жыл бұрын
I remember one KZreadr mentioned about the condo (not this one) has housekeeping service. The price depends on how often you need the service. If you sign a long term contract, it will be about $20 each time, probably for 1-bedroom unit (sorry I cannot exactly remember).
@austinpowers4599
Жыл бұрын
@Simen Wu Thank you so much for your knowledge and answering my question!!!
@jeffgyro465
Жыл бұрын
Gotta consider the unexpected expenses as a cowherd, especially in older buildings. In Florida, after a 30 year old condo collapses in seconds….new building inspection laws hurried into place. Professional engineers must certify the building integrity as specified intervals. The super busy inspectors are frantically scheduling the older condos….and covering their behinds, ordering $millions in repairs to the structures. Won’t be long before these Thai skyscrapers from the 1980, 1990s start to pancake with everyone inside.
@herranton
23 күн бұрын
The building maintains the pool, and (afaik), it's included in your maintenance dues. If you notice, there is a door from the pool deck to the hallway. That is for the maintenance crew to get to the pool without going through your unit. I don't even think you have the option to use an outside service. You can have them drain it if you are leaving for an extended period of time. And again, iirc, the price per sq meter was the same on the pool units as all the other units. I found it online once, but now can't seem to find it again. I remember thinking it was reasonable though. No idea on how the building will upkeep over time. That is on the owners. At this point, (July 2024) the building has about 10% of its units up for sale or rent. That seems low for a condo building in Thailand, which is good. It means that the building is doing well. But again, only time will tell. The prevailing theory on condos in Thailand is to NEVER buy one and only rent. They are _not_ an appreciating asset in Thailand. Everyone wants to live in the new hotness and there is sooo much *_excess capacity_* in the market, once you buy a unit, it will be _very_ hard to sell. If you plan on living in the unit your whole life, or have the money to blow, that's one thing. But most expats in Thailand tend to move around. (I mean, just watch this channel, lol). Maybe you don't think you will, but I wouldn't bet on it. The pool units are about $400k USD. If you spend 1k USD (35k Thai baht) per month in rent (which is A LOT), that same 400k will get you over 33 years in rent. Granted, you won't have a condo at the end, but a 33 year old Thai condo is probably less than worthless anyways. And you can move whenever you want.
This is by far the best hotel apartment I have seen for many years. The attention to detail is absolutely flawless. The grandure of the architecture is very obvious. This really is a gemstone to be very very proud of. Huge thank you for sharing this with us. 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@philgeraci5845
Жыл бұрын
a little worried about the wind factor but nothing like a new condo, especially in Thailand, thanks for the tour.
@jeffgyro465
Жыл бұрын
Obnoxious.
@donnybrook5671
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffgyro465 Ostentatious.
@jeffgyro465
Жыл бұрын
@@donnybrook5671 that’s it.
I been watching this construction for about 2yr now I knew it would be AWESOME when completed. I love it Thanks for the tour Lucas ❤️👍💯🙏
Been walking past this for a few weeks, actually thought it was fully competed. Really impressive commanding building. I wonder if it will have the same striking feature when the Arom 45 storey gets completed next door to it. They obviously see this area as the next up and coming to commit to so many rooms. Wombat bar must be over the moon lol.
Oh, I love the rain squall explanation! Looks a beautiful apartment building.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍🙏
Fantastic tour. Very impressive building. $430k for 80m2? Only one left lol. I'm guessing the Chinese are buying up fast. The only thing I'd be worried about is having a young kid in an inflatable ring on the roof top pool. Lol May never see them again when it's windy. 🤔😂😂 Great video Loucas 👍✌️🙏
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Good point, but I'm fairly certain they will probably put those glass walls around the pool like many of the other in town have.
@rich6371
Жыл бұрын
@@Rides4Kickz yes I know what you're saying Loucas, but that wind looked pretty strong lol.
@Roof_Pizza
Жыл бұрын
Make sure to take out an insurance policy on the kids, could pay for a nice early retirement.
@minimalistation
Жыл бұрын
@@Roof_Pizza that's dark...!
@austinpowers4599
Жыл бұрын
Why would anyone think that it's windy every day and every minute?
Hi, Lucus & Vee, I enjoyed your tour of the condos, these are high-quality units with a high-quality price tag . You do get great facilities you would not need to leave the building to go to the gym which looked very well equipped. Personally, I would buy to rent and live in a villa with a pool and gardens and a high-quality interior for much less but if you want to rub shoulders with the rich and prestigious location and I don't think you could go wrong with these places. They should hold their value and increase. Thank you, Lucus, for another great find. I hope Vee is doing okay and the chemo is not too rough on her. She is in our prayers as are you. Been rough on you have to be with someone you love and watch them and feel powerless to fix it. Heartbreaking but you have done a grand job of supporting her. Take care GOD Bless you and yours. M
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thank You Pokeaman, Vee is up and about a lot more these days than several weeks ago.
I bought a condo in Phuket 1990 for 2M Baht. Sold it 2004 for 5.5M Bath. Rented it out for a total of 6M Baht over those years. The same size units in that condo now sells for 6-7 M Baht 15 years after I sold mine. I think I bought mine in the right time and sold it in the nick of time. Nice condo in this vid. Good luck to new owners!
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, for sure, sounds like a good deal all around
@nickmondo222
Жыл бұрын
and the tax man is now looking for you Ruben. ha ha
Beautiful and that view with the pool overlooking the ocean. Wow.
Beautiful complex. The private pool rooms are amazing. Shame that Thailand rarely considers larger spaces with wider door ways.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
The older units seem to have larger spaces etc. The newer they are it seems the smaller they get.
We just rented a 4 bed Wongamat seaview. Seaview condos are pretty full now unless a studio is ok for you. Jomtien is good too since they made the beach huge. But you’re across the street there.
Hi Lucas, I’m Bruce’s buddy Keith. I stayed there up until a week ago is was incredible. The staff and facilities are amazing. The location was perfect and we look forward to returning next year. Thanks for sharing and all the best to you and your beautiful wife.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Cool, glad you enjoyed, it's a great place 👍
Thank you for this, nice to have a new hotel to check in to when coming back to Pattaya some day. Unfortunately our time is running out in Thailand so we have to move on, after 6 months the visa extension is to much work so we travel along in the world. But Thailand is always a place to come back to!😀😀😀
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
WOW.... what a fantastic space! Everything is in building so far. Well thought out and high end finishes. I don't think you would loose money and could be a high end rental. Great presentation! Please tell Vee we are thinking of her and sending more prayers. Positive attitude helps!
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Timothy, will do.
Hey Luckaz , As usual another great Vid from you Glad to see the weather good be over there in a month again lovely apartments Hope Vees Well Cheers Chris
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Many Thanks Chris 👍🙏
Thanks for the video. Maybe good for a 3 month rental. Units seems rather small for long term living but that is common in Thailand. Jomtien has amenities with a decent beach. It is one of the better places imo.
The top floor pool has its name chosen for it 🤣😂 These squalls' origin is hilarious, I wish nothing would change, it could be a tourist attraction. The Copa looked amazing 👍 Give Vee a hug from Sweden, and thank you for sharing Lucas ❤
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Many Thanks Don 👍🙏
Nice informative video, as always ;)
Awesome video- that drone footage was amazing ! 555
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks Bruce 👍🙏
4:11 Is it extra for the plastic on the lampshade 😮? Super video +1. 🎉
Cool! Good to see you finally got to do a review of the Copacabana in Jomtien! I had contacted my sister, who's one of the sales reps there, a couple months ago and notified her about contacting you to give a tour of the place when it was ready to be opened. However, looks like your friend beat her to the punch already. She's the rep on the phone behind the counter 10:39, right next to the rep that gave you the tour. 😁👍
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for the though Branden 👍🙏
Damn what a nice building. Nice to see big balconies even though the apartment isn't that big. For me, it's a mystery that so many condos are sold with such small balconies. Keep up the good work Lucas and Vee👍
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Anders 👍
Wow , the top floor is very high, it made my legs go to jelly just watching this video 😂 what a lovely place though.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Yes it was!
WOW! Love it Lucas. Prayers for Vee and keep up the great videos.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thank You 👍
Great video
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex 👍
Looks great Loucas! Thanks for sharing
I will definitely rent one of those private pool ones if they have rentals in there! Thanks for sharing!
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Enjoy 👍👍
A 35m2 unit is renting for ~ 35,000 baht.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the newer properties always bring a much higher price per square meter than their older rivals.
Finally picked up one of your shirts the other day. My wardrobe is complete now.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Awesome, enjoy 👍🙏
That's amazing 😍. I have been noticing that most of the condos I'm seeing don't have ovens. I mention this cause my wife loves to bake.
Another great review Lucas. Beautiful place. They have done a wonderful job with the water thyme, and the amount of detail gone into every facet of detail. And the view is something to behold. Thanks🙏🙏🙏
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, great views for sure. 👍🙏
Copacabana looked great, awesome views facing the beach….a bit out of my price range but I can dream a bit…..best wishes for Vee as always…..nice video Lucas!
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@mauihowey
Жыл бұрын
@@Rides4Kickz picked up one of your shirts today at the Pattaya night Bizzarr
Lucas, very I Impressive video and something to consider when we return back to Pattaya. Take care ; we trust Vee is doing well
Thanks Lucas…Jomtien is a go to for my family vaka…we live in Phitsanulok. The rental service sign near the end of the video said 25,000/month…thats not too bad for everything that’s included …. I’m paying more for my townhouse..:-)) Ok..great tour…hello Vee..:-))
Very nice apts and say hi to Vee. Great video as always.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I will
Lucas , you did it again; shown us. Part of Pattaya that we can prepare for next time we visit
I wonder if, in Copacabana, there is a condo called "Pattaya".
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Lolz, that would be really cool 🤣👍👍
@sergiomildner7903
Жыл бұрын
No.There isn't.
Stunning building thanks for the early look. You just keep finding different things
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow! Great tour. Thanks Lucas. 👊
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Frank 👍
Wow that looked an awesome place. I'll check on rentals next time I'm over there. Thanks for video Lucas
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Nice, enjoy 👍
Thanks for sharing Lucas, hope Vee is feeling ok, love those condos with the pools, very nicely laid out too from what I saw, I certainly wouldn't mind one of those, regards from cold and wet England 🍺🍺👍
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thanks David 👍🙏
I need to rent a 2 bed unit for the month of July. Any leads on who I can connect with? thanks
Hey there thanks for the tour. Interesting pool units. So nice to come home for a swim. And as always ...appreciate your work. Bye for now
it looks nice and new but I prefer the view of reflection condo more
Thanks for the apartments tour Lucas. Cheers Brian. South Africa
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian 👍🙏
very nice tour Lucas
Hi. One of my favorite vloggers (other then you) Sam Evens “The Electric Viking” is going through the same thing you and Vee are going through. They live in Australia and his wife was just diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. It is Sam his wife and 2 boys 7 and 9 I believe. The only place they have found that you can hang a hope on betting the cancer he has found is Thailand and Mexico. His wife has left for Thailand and he is selling everything before moving to Thailand. I’m not sure if you can help him but he seems like a nice guy that really needs some help. They seem to be about your age. They will need a place to live and school for the boys. He might like to know about that flotation place and a little first hand knowledge. Hopefully you can help if he is moving to your area. It’s always nice to move to a place where you know someone. Anyway, thanks for listening. ❤❤
Very nice condo. Thanks for showing us around Loucous. 🇦🇺🇦🇺
I just went by this place a FEW days ago and the aesthetic features of the EXTERIOR facade really makes the chic, luxurious building stand out😃🤗
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely 👍
As the saying goes my friend if u have ask the price there too dear great vlog 😮😮
I love it. there in December. I stay at the edge last month because of your video 👌🏾
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Nice👍👍👍
Thanks. I've passed this place many times and wondered what it was like inside. 👍
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
Too low, we looked at one that will have the new high-speed train pretty much at the gate entrance and it will be the tallest condo. The prices were not bad but the traffic is just nuts in Pattaya. Grand Solaire 67 floors including underground parking open for pre sales so quite good discounts especially if in Thai name. But like most condo they use cheap materials and the show rooms are always nicer than what you get as they include the "optional extras"
Thank you. I'm in love, how Divine. I hope they have a private pool apartment left ^-^
wow, what a neat building. i can't even imagine having that big 1 bedroom with the private pool. That would be amazing! I wonder if there will be a fuss raised over the pool water getting blown around. Say Hi to Vee for me! have a great week!
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
I think glass barriers will prevent that, all the other pools like that have those installed around the pools.
A pleasant Sunday morning, lucky U.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
I don't find that 80m2 unit that attractive with the little pool, but I guess that many people like it since they are sold out. Wonder if they can remove the pool and replace with an outdoor Jacuzzi?
@HectorGarcia-nb2ld
Жыл бұрын
39 sq ft units has a hot tub on the balcony. I am tempted to buy but still a lot of money
Beautiful condo Lucas, best wishes to Vee and yourself
Great video man! My dad has been dying to take me to Thailand for awhile now but I'm stuck in college as of right now. Soon hopefully! (p.s Bruce is my dad haha)
Nice place , thank you ! I hope things are going in a positive direction for lady Vie !
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you
Recently moved to Jomtien last year, but yet to see the models. We always go to Jomtien Night Market next door. Hope they are built larger than the typical 35sq mfr 1 bedroom units. Thank you and wishes to Vee.
Hello thank you for showing these beautiful condos, I just wanted to know can you rent the one bedroom with the pool?? from you you said its around $14 million (B) and if so how much can you rent them for and if you can rent it out for a year or more??
Have a great day Lucas 🇦🇺🇺🇸🇹🇭🤙🙏🍻
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
You too Erikh 👍🙏
Those are some astounding aerial views!❤
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, fantastic 👍🙏
What an amazing looking building - particularly loved the pools. I'll take one of the 80 m2 apartments - 14 million is still reasonable - Not sure that the wombat kiwi bar guests will appreciate the regular showers.
Truly amazing. Yet, one question comes to the mind: Would the Pattaya Fire Dept be up to the job if - God forbid! - an emergency would arise in any one of those new condo sky scrapers? How could they reach people in the upper floors if the stairways are blocked?
@Expat.Pattaya.555
Жыл бұрын
Copa has an excellent fire suppression system. All Thai high rises must have a functional helicopter pad on the roof, which Copa has. All stairwells have fire doors per code.
I think will need to do something about the pool rain I’m just thinking how much water being wasted Looks fantastic 😂😂
wow amazing.
Love the luxury any contact links for rental during north american cold spirts! :) Great Gotham coverage!
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
They have a sales agent for some rentals right there at the front desk, I'm sure some owners will rent theirs out through various agents around town too.
For 14mil thb, you could build a mansion on some leased land I believe. Skyscrapers always make me nervous though. Looking for a 1 month condo rental for a trip there in 3 weeks.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Correct, you could probably build one for less than that even 👍
@BarnabyBarry
Жыл бұрын
Location-location-location-My studio condo in Los Angeles is worth the same as 3 bedroom house in South Dakota-but who wants to live in South Dakota
I'd imagine the building would need to be in charge of the pool maintenance, it would get rather funky if it was left up to each individual owner.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I am thinking the same thing.
That condo is perfect, I would definitely want to live there!
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Nice 👍🙏
3-4 million for one bed not bad-with rent around 25,000 you could live there for 8-10 years and break even-space is limited but I know at 62 I have few things to make life easy! I wonder can you offer less like other condos? God bless Vee too!
Vee when she feels much better maybe you can get a short term rental there and do a follow-up video. Awesome. 😃
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
That would be nice 👍
looks amazing 😃😃😲😲
thanks for sharing great video Be safe and hug for vee lilo
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thank you,👍👍👍
First, hope Vee is doing better🙏🏿🤞🏿for her. Great and beautiful condo. Amazing pool units, wonder how much will be the rental? Thanks for sharing. Happy travels and stay safe. God bless you guys 👍🏿.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Good question! The newest properties in town always bring a premium rental so more per Sq.Meter than the older rivals.
Epic spot..thank you for this video. So, it’s really true that the average occupancy in any given pattaya condo building is just 25%? Wow
Definitely WOW factor. Thanks Loucous.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
No doubt Mitch 👍
Wow, those pool - units ...
Barry Manilow is going to open there soon performing his famous hit, At the Copa, Copa Cabana.
as usual a well documented video , never anything less from Lucas .... good looking apartment block
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Geoffery 👍🙏
I love that private pool! damn, Can’t wait for them to open it for airbnb and enjoy the room and the view! 😍😍😍
@chrisgoody2shoes218
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully they will ban Airbnb there
@exploringwithkaren
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgoody2shoes218 I don’t think that’s gonna happen 😂
@chrisgoody2shoes218
Жыл бұрын
@@exploringwithkaren You might be right. Some condos enforce the law better than others….
I understand a 45 story building is in progress on the other side of the night market
@Expat.Pattaya.555
Жыл бұрын
Yes, they’ve got EIA approval and have broken ground. Probably will complete in about 4 years.
This place is incredible, my goodness!
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, very well done 👍🙏
Generally, the owners of a condo form a board of directors comprised of owners., with the usual Annual General Meeting to vote on the budget items etc. ....and usually they get real cheap...so how is this place gonna look in a decade or two I wonder?
The sales staff said, “only one 80sqm unit left unsold”. Lol.
@Expat.Pattaya.555
Жыл бұрын
FYI, over half of the 80 sqm pool units were sold prior to EIA approval back in 2018. I was told mainly to Thai investors in Bangkok.
Looks great but would be interesting if that building ever had full capacity.
I liked the apartment with pool but there are way too many apartments in the building for me to want to live there, there will probably be queues for everything everywhere once the people move in
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
It is a lot of units for sure.
It would have been interesting to know the running cost of the facility. Keeping up this building, the gym, pool and all the rest must cost something, too. But the building and the apartments that were shown were really nice.
@Expat.Pattaya.555
Жыл бұрын
Hi! The one time sinking fund is 500 baht per sqm paid at time of title transfer. Monthly maintenance fee is 50 baht per sqm paid annually up front for the year. Given there’s 1644 units, that’s a huge budget to work with.
I love that place and I hope to be there for the grand opening .
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
Rain squall while completely Sunny in Florida we call that summer.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I've seen it for real here but this one was a fake 😂🤣
@robertjackson9601
Жыл бұрын
@@Rides4Kickz Bet the engineers did not think that was going to be an issue
Did you say joantiem isn't it jontiem beach?
Would be great to have Barry Manilow perform at the Grand Opening!
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Nice 😂🤣
The problem with Thailand is that they don't take care of things, so this condo you buy will look worn and old after just a few years, they haven't set aside enough money or don't have running costs for good enough maintenance. And then this is not worth buying at all. 14 million Bath is way too much to pay when it is not maintained anyway. Remember you can buy a good house for this money in Europe
I am sorry, it looks like a monstrosity (1600 units!) and full of those small apartments only suitable for Airbnb. These developments will destroy the allure of Jomtien as a more chilled destination.
@Rides4Kickz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's been going that way for decades, Pattaya was a small chill destination several decades ago 🤣
Need a Casino and Sports book
What's the pricing on the units you had shown us?