The police’s reaction to the accusation is as worrying as the accusation itself..

@thegrimyeaper

5 ай бұрын

Police actually said on camera "you can't say they're from China". This world is doomed.

@StimParavane

5 ай бұрын

I agree. She should definitely know better. To have immediately pandered to their delusions was worrisome.

@whatilearnttoday5295

5 ай бұрын

That's normal for police. Absolutely normal and typical.

@echochildus2441

5 ай бұрын

@@whatilearnttoday5295 That would be the issue

@Barnacules

5 ай бұрын

I agree, I wish there was more attention on the police for how they handled this because it’s hugely concerning. Look at how comfortable the CCP members were contacting the police, they obviously knew they would believe them over their own citizen. It’s a good thing cameras were rolling otherwise she would have got away with it free and clear and Brenden would be seen as the bad guy here. Never stop recording.

Mentioning a political party or geographical location is never "racist"... SMH.

@jkuang

5 ай бұрын

But Brendan spin it into "CHINESE ARE INVADING OUR FREEDOM" That is totally IDEOLOGY RACISM. It is similar when having an argument with a black man under the exact context, and Brendan claims that "BACKS ARE INVADING OUR FREEDOM." The reason is simple: You need to have CONTEXT and PROPRTIONALITY. You can not just take a public space conflict and resolution, and spin it with generalization and spin it out of context and proportion. That is RACISM in disguise of ideology.

@parkmana

5 ай бұрын

The communist race! LOL. The mention of "race" MUST come into play for anything to be racist. There is no mention of any race whatsoever in that exchange.

@heythere9371

5 ай бұрын

Yes it is...what kind of retarded rule is that?

@alansouthall8221

5 ай бұрын

ofc it can stating facts can also be racist. its all about context

@ffjsb

5 ай бұрын

@@alansouthall8221 A fact is a fact, it context doesn't change a fact. Go woke go broke...

This is very out of context. He tried to force CCP guidelines on Brendan. "This is not communist China" is a reasonable and pretty much the only response this dialoge needed. The fact that those CCP influencers have conflicted views targeting a young audience while avoiding the word "communism" is entirely their problem

@florianschmoldt8659

5 ай бұрын

@@marinae7928 Careful with the truth. You might tell a UK black person who threw their trash next to a bin, that this is not africa. Literal truth but wouldn't work that well ;D

This story is way more complex. They danced, they played piano with him. This is not about piano or music. This was about control and obedience when a member of CCP was present and imposed his rules, his CCP rules. UK is not CCP China!

@mprooveit3588

5 ай бұрын

"Way more" complex? Not really, but it was about a CCP representative (probably not one of the most clever ones) showing up and thinking he could impose CCP China's rules. It was funny and reminds me of the South Park episode about Harry & Meghan and their worldwide "privacy tour."

@panzer00

5 ай бұрын

Read the Data Protection Act of 2018 and the GDPR. They may have had the right to request not to be filmed in that specific scenario. Even in the US, a person has the right to not be filmed in public depending on the intentions of the filmer. It's why, sometimes, people's faces are censored.

@keaton718

5 ай бұрын

Well Brendan deleted the dancing and friendly part from his stream and acted like their first interaction was walking up and demanding they be blurred or deleted from the stream. And arguably the Chinese national flag, red with the stars on it, is different to the Chinese communist flag, red with the hammer and sickle. He is obviously a shit stirrer. But it was his right to not oblige their request to blur them from the stream, even though KZread provides tools to do that very easily. When he refused to do this the guy got angry and started shouting not to touch her, and I suppose that is his right too, talking loudly and forcefully probably isn't against the law, though I'm sure he now regrets it. The whole situation is very messy and I doubt Brendan or the shouty guy are going to come out of this looking very good.

@jeremybiggs8413

5 ай бұрын

No it isn’t. These people aren’t CCP representatives. It’s not even that clear they’re actual Chinese media. The woman at the centre of it is a student living in the UK. it’s a bunch of people being obnoxious (including Kavanagh who I’m well aware of) and then groups of people using it for their own agendas ‘ universal ignorance. Quite frankly it’s embarrassing for all concerned.

@panzer00

5 ай бұрын

@@keaton718 the current PRC flag, with the yellow stars: the red symbolizes the Chinese Communist Revolution, the stars represent the unity of the Chinese people under the CCP, the big star represents the CCP and the small stars represent the four social classes of China's New Democracy.

He didn't say, I'm not Chinese...he said we are not in China. He was referring to adherence to laws.

@user-pe5qy1zw6y

5 ай бұрын

@@marinae7928he said we’re not in China and Dr. K reminded him of that.

If I was in China, and did something that wasn’t appropriate there, and I said: I can do whatever I like! And they said, you’re not in social democratic Sweden now. Would that be racist towards me?

@subimaginos

5 ай бұрын

Yes, it would be racist and you would be entitled to demand that Chinese policeman enforces DEI, ESG, and anti racism and put the perpetrator under arrest. However an extenuating circumstance for the aggressive Chinese racist would be that you are white because you can only be a little bit racist towards white people. Only if you apologize for the white colonialism you would have the right to complain. I hope that clarifies the situation. As a matter of fact, you posting this question could be interpreted as a little bit racist and the woke police should investigate. Chinese woke police, of course.

@coaxl7940

5 ай бұрын

​@@subimaginos😂😂

@Ifailedeverything

5 ай бұрын

You’d never find out because you’d be in jail getting re-educated 😬

@ChristinaChrisR

5 ай бұрын

Good answers thank you😂👍🏼

@cesaru3619

5 ай бұрын

No, you are in lefties pinky Sweden would be correct. And they will be homophobe not racist.

For people who didn't want to be filmed, they sure went viral fast. They did the exact opposite of what they should have done.

@tayonguyen

5 ай бұрын

it’s called the Streisand effect

@jimmcmonagle2360

5 ай бұрын

that's how you get victim points!

@DavidLS1

5 ай бұрын

@@jimmcmonagle2360 But no one in the free world sees them as victims. We see them as Karens.

@jimmcmonagle2360

5 ай бұрын

@@DavidLS1 right, and I guess I was thinking that, in the new math, "victim points = Karen"

Blimey! No it's not racism. Brendan stated a fact without negative intentions. That policewoman was incompetent. Please don't dare call her actions, WOKE, for that was the definition of sleepwalking through your job responsibilities! Knowing what is right over wrong is what that term means!

The qualifier of "communist" China serves to differentiate it from a "non-communist China", e.g. Taiwan, with communism being the ideology which permits the total control and restriction of freedoms against which this Dr K is railing. If anything, it is the opposite of "racism": communism is not a racial trait, it is a learned, social one.

@jtc1947

5 ай бұрын

Excellent comment with FACTS!

@bhz8947

5 ай бұрын

You’re right, and not only is communism not a race, neither is China.

@Plasmastorm73_n5evv

5 ай бұрын

Correct. Communism is a POLITICAL STATE not a racial trait!

@Plasmastorm73_n5evv

5 ай бұрын

@@bhz8947True. China is a country, CHINESE however is a race.

@RJWhitmore

5 ай бұрын

@@bhz8947 Yup. Its about as true to state Nazis were capitalists - yeah, there is a grain of truth in there, but its not really the thing that sets them apart from others. On a Communist - Capitalist and Liberal - Authoritarian chart China would be slightly on the Communist axis, but way way up on the Authoritarian axis. Similarly, Nazis would be slightly on the Capitalist axis, but way way up on the Authoritarian axis. Stating Nazis as capitalist would just sound like you are trying to create an association between capitalism and Nazis. The same is true for China and communism. I know that the CCP stands for Chinese Communist Party, just like Nazi Party stood for the National Socialist German Worker's Party - if you believe calling a dog a duck makes it a duck then I've got a bridge to sell. Realistically, the CCP should be the CAP; Chinese Authoritarian Party.

The standard, commonsense thing for the Chinese to do would be to walk away, go elsewhere with no piano. Today however, people will deliver convoluted, passed politics, to gain their own narcissistic upper hand. It's obscene and we are all subjected to witnessing this.

@jkuang

5 ай бұрын

But Brendan spin it into "CHINESE ARE INVADING OUR FREEDOM" That is totally IDEOLOGY RACISM. It is similar when having an argument with a black man under the exact context, and Brendan claims that "BACKS ARE INVADING OUR FREEDOM." The reason is simple: You need to have CONTEXT and PROPRTIONALITY. You can not just take a public space conflict and resolution, and spin it with generalization and spin it out of context and proportion. That is RACISM in disguise of ideology.

@Ginx-pe4si

5 ай бұрын

Why should he walk away? He has been there for years.

Before this flag story, those Chineses people checked hand and played piano, and even started to dance. In fact this pianist was waiting for a group of Japanese people, it is why he was asking if they were Japanese, and there were no Chinese flag at this time.

@Sheriden.

5 ай бұрын

@@howardj602 where can I find that?

@californiadreamer2580

4 ай бұрын

​@@Sheriden.On Brendan Kavanaugh's channel. The entire episode was being livestreamed at the time.

I'm sensing this student's opinions are the opinions of whoever was the last person he spoke to. This is unlikely to change.

@florianschmoldt8659

5 ай бұрын

And those opinions seem to be based on 10seconds of the whole livestream. To be fair, I haven't watched any other video of this channel but I'm 100% convinced it's goal is to make students look lazy.

@MaxPower2719

5 ай бұрын

I’m sensing the “student” is agreeing with the “teacher” all the time, and they’re quite obviously pretending to have a debate of sorts…

Love the angle of helping someone critically think through topics. Very well done

You are promoting rationality and reason here. You will make a lot of enemies.

@Mandosbando

5 ай бұрын

Facts! but I can see this being a great path to journey for him and viewers!

@jkuang

5 ай бұрын

But Brendan spin it into "CHINESE ARE INVADING OUR FREEDOM" That is totally IDEOLOGY RACISM. It is similar when having an argument with a black man under the exact context, and Brendan claims that "BACKS ARE INVADING OUR FREEDOM." The reason is simple: You need to have CONTEXT and PROPRTIONALITY. You can not just take a public space conflict and resolution, and spin it with generalization and spin it out of context and proportion. That is RACISM in disguise of ideology.

The word has been thrown around so much that it lost any of it's original meaning.

In the previous video(7 mins, same day) she is in a playful banter with Dr K and moments later, another Chinese woman approaches and speaks to the Chinese group and handing them yellow sheets of paper. The group then has a change of heart and this is where this newer 37 min post comes from.

@Humannondancer

5 ай бұрын

Brendan doesn't show that part. In the 37 min vid he appears to show up expecting trouble saying "I may need help". This a part of the reason why I think he manipulated the situation.

@tpilot_error404

5 ай бұрын

Because the group was suddenly informed there was a spy among them that didnt want her image on social media

@user-sw8vt2nf8q

5 ай бұрын

He showed, that another part was shown on his channel, you should checkout

@user-sw8vt2nf8q

5 ай бұрын

He showed, that another part was shown on his channel, you should checkout

@user-sw8vt2nf8q

5 ай бұрын

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I don't know how Brendon stayed so calm. I'd have told the Chinese boy in no uncertain terms that Uk is a free country and public photography is not against the law.

Facts over Feelings ... makes all the difference in debate

The most fascinating part is that all of those people who objected, were NOT tourists but actually live and work in UK, including being university lecturers - male who was screaming “don’t touch her”! All were also identified as connected to our Tories government (right wing), and at least one of them has received a grant of £20,000 from our government. Finally, at least one of the three women, is an Chinese influencer and has posted this ‘stuff’ to Chinese WeChat. So basically, it was a set up all along. They could have moved themselves but it’s all about politics. kzread.info/dash/bejne/onqKsryEl9DQcag.htmlsi=-mP6ugPcD-2EFgBT

Hey man, can you please upload and create longer videos like this and JKRowling one. Basically, can you review videos on the internet and show people how to think critically when digesting content. The world needs it.

@Plasmastorm73_n5evv

5 ай бұрын

People are free to think however they want to. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the world needs more of these videos.

@Mandosbando

5 ай бұрын

@@Plasmastorm73_n5evv Firstly, I never said people should NOT think as they please. Secondly, this is my opinion. Thirdly, To watch a video on a platform requires an individual to either search or click if they find interest in the topic and lastly, Youve somehow painted me as some sort of dictator over 1 comment and this is exactly why the world needs teachers to teach others how to think critically. Have a gd day!

@Mandosbando

5 ай бұрын

​@@Plasmastorm73_n5evv Looks like the world spoke...I'm happy to have to last laugh on Warren's side...I am one who understands "the soul of the world" and "the importance of personal legends"..

this student need to do more homework

After the ww2, it was a fight between the two ideology - demogracy vs communist. People live in the democratic societies are taught to hate communist at a very young ages starting from school to mainstream media, they were taught that communist is bad and democracy is good, they are rats and we are the good guys, these teaching has been embedded in people minds growing up in the democratic society, the power of propaganda. So when the Chinese guy as you can see from his English accent and i guess that he might has been living and working in Uk for quite sometime and he understands the term ' communist' is derogatory and racist, so when Brendan mentioned the word ' communist' it is perceived as an insult and racist that triggered his emotion to over react.

What’s disturbing is how this student thought before this conversation that it was “slightly” racist or “problematic”. Where the hell is the cognitive spine in young adults. They’ll lose their freedom to be so naive and suffer for it by this very weakness. People are so triggered by an inference or certain words that not a second thought is given to “well, is it factually correct?” “Is it said with Malice?” “Is my white guilt/self hatred overpowering any reason or common sense?”

@Skoora

5 ай бұрын

@@howardj602 We can’t sacrifice our way of life and freedom because of overt sensitivity that attempts to cover a nation’s ignorance of ethnic origins. The answer is better education to the people who can’t tell the difference, not crucifying people who say legitimate things about another person’s behavior and the circumstances of that behavior. With freedom comes responsibility and if a nation is going to erode education and intellectualism (much like here in the U.S.) we don’t deserve it and will lose that freedom. We keep wanting to shift the blame so that nobody has to do the hard work and think too much.

@Skoora

5 ай бұрын

@@howardj602 So what? Really, so what. What would be a realistic penance for you? You do realize every walk of life benefits from the western society we’ve created up ‘til this point. If we were so evil we wouldn’t have people’s in their 100’s of thousands, from these long, now independent places coming or trying to get to the home of the “oppressor”. So how far back do we wind the clock to find where almost every culture must pay penance to another. The Germanic hordes, The Romans, Genghis Khan, Alexander? The constant back and forth between Spain, France and England as they invaded and were invaded. Or maybe the ethnic and religious cleansing that still happens today in parts of Africa. Spare me the platitudes indeed. The human race has been built on nomadic movement, exploration, conquest and sometimes just fair trading and commerce. Does Italy owe deferential treatment to England to say sorry for giving you aqueducts with some murder and subjugation on the side? We now have a society where we are basically free to say and think what we like, no matter our religion, color, background etc etc. For that to work it needs to be for everyone. We have more economic and career movement available for more different people’s than ever before. The constant one-upmanship of who is aggrieved or offended more destroys that freedom and creates authoritarianism on what can be thought and what can be said. Who can have what position or job. Even made worse when it is often spoken the loudest on behalf of people who weren’t even offended and didn’t ask for your representation on their behalf. We’re meant to learn from the past, not be held hostage by it.

@yallwhatnow447

5 ай бұрын

@@howardj602 Should've had a stronger military, son. The US and UK spent tons of resources to end slavery with the blockade of Africa. Guess what parts of the world still openly owns slaves? I can play you the world's smallest violin while I look up some atrocities committed by those poor "victimized" countries.

If you can handle the limelight, then I think this content and series are your calling! The world needs critical thinking the way you are promoting it and I would love, as I'm sure others would, to see you expand on this more, in different contexts and perhaps with greater group numbers! You have an incredible skill of listening and asking the right questions! Please continue it and take it as far as it can go, so the world can learn to think for itself, without being influenced by other people's opinions astray from fact!

If the UK is such a "free" country, how come the piano player didn't allow them the freedom of having their faces blurred? The piano play is the dictator taking people's freedoms IMO

Thank you very much for teaching these kids critical thinking.

WHO SAID THIS? I was once caught on a hot mic saying: "when you are rich and famous like me you can just walk up to a woman and grab her by her flag."

They are not visitors, they live in England!

@kaseyc9459

5 ай бұрын

And sadly don't know the laws of that land...

@Ginx-pe4si

5 ай бұрын

They are visitors. England has a well documented history. They are just vistors

If this is the USA I think they need an education system for their citizens.

If everything is racist then nothing is racist.

Arrest that man! Why? He is playing the piano.

I like the way you teach to reason without preconceptions to the students. Do you wrote any book about that,or have could you suggest any lecture or writings,maybe some favourite autor?

@SecretScholars

4 ай бұрын

I am working on that now.

Communism is not a race. It's that simple. Imagine the level of a mind which somehow can't sort that out.🤯

the question no one is asking why didnt they want to be filmed and what are they hiding?

King’s Cross Station in London is huge. They should have moved to other end of the platform & filmed themselves there, out of the way of filming but within earshot of the piano player so they could record themselves.

Incidents like this one is what makes nationalism more common.

Thank you for trying to save children!

This and jk are a lovely format. Doesn't need better audio or fancy lighting. Just more things to talk through.

if they are so sensitive why are they even in UK?? they seem to like nothing in UK free speech, laws etc then what is stopping them from going back to their beloved country??

Yo brother just saw this and your JK Rowling clip and just wanted to say thank you- youre doing Gods work! Keep it up. Only about 300 million more to go! ;)

The premise carried in that video is odd. They seemed to think there was an entitlement to privacy in public spaces. Which is making me consider how thats happening, or possible, in China.

turns out it was all a misunderstanding. find and watch the entire video.

Neither "China" nor "communist" are racial descriptions.

Who is this person who thinks saying we're not in somewhere else is racist? FML.

I’m living in a zombie world with few expectations

Newton Leng (Mr Shouty) was giving an in person performance of China's diplomatic style.

I'll tell what is racist "open your eyes, mate, I didn't touch her"

It's sad these things have to be explained.

@tayonguyen

5 ай бұрын

Little pinks can’t be taught, they’re already indoctrinated

This level of basic logical thinking versus petty emotional reactions, emotional manipulation, should be taught in schooldays already, as it was in ancient times. Personally, I still have trouble comprehending how, without those skills, it is possible to even get into university, let alone get a degree. Degree mills have always existed, sadly, as corruption is a natural force in society that needs to be actively fought against. - A sinister control-obsessed ideology however will always prefer the emotionally immature devoid of logic (though believing to be logical) over those capable of orderly, objective thought. When such an ideology holds sway over public education, no matter what it advertises to be for, as in caring about the children for example, the opposite of the expected will be the outcome. They do care about the children, but not for them to improve, to realise their potential, but for them to become servile, easily manipulated useful idiots. We live in times where such an ideology is still at the upswing, and nothing but a total reset of the education system, wrestling it away from the dialectic sophists (as Moses Maimonides and Konfucius and potentially Laotse already describe them) and condemn these ideological hydra heads that sprout from the same poisonous hydra the Nazis came from as we condemn the Nazis. In my country the kids are taught "beware the beginnings" - but nobody teaches anyone what those even are - so we never see them when "the Left" is engaging in those beginnings. "It's okay when they do it" seems to be the motto. If people learned the objective truth about these ideologies, what historically happened, nobody would vote for anything remotely adjacent to a hammer and sickle, whether a rose in a fist, a sunflower, a donkey, a rainbow or any other shell subverted, carved out, infiltrated, taken over, like the German Pirate Party. We already know that the more open these ideologues admit what they truly want, the more honest their propaganda becomes as they turn cultural artefacts from their genuine versions into congruent propaganda pieces, that people reject them naturally; as what the ideologues want is wholly unnatural, counter-natural. Counter-common sense and counter-reason, counter-sanity.

It is also a recognised British way of describing things. Although, I supposed instead of "Communist China" (1927-present), DrK may have been more accurate to perhaps use the recognised term "post- Mao era China" (1978-present) akin to the other non-r*cist terms such "Elizabethan era" England (1558-1603), Victorian era Britain (1837-1901), N*zi era Germany (1933-1945). According to the wiki "The Chinese Communist Party (CCP),[3] officially the Communist Party of China (CPC),[4] is the founding and sole ruling party of the People's Republic of China (PRC)" so the abbreviation to "Communist China" was accurate enough for most (if not the 'little pinks' in the video) at the time of its utterance.

So, when you are a student, you have a different view?

The piano guy perhaps should have just told them to do one but with the universal words of F & OFF and not got embroiled in nonsense arguments, he should have done the same with the police. I think to many Englsh people these days are to afraid to say what they truly feel when the other side and lets not kid ourselves about this there are sides here and one side have been empowered to say whatever they want and at the same time as that hold themselves up as being the victims (Communist Left Wingers) whether they be Chinese or Western. I for one shall speak in no uncertain times and shall not be afraid to call a spade a spade.

He could have phrased it differently ……… ?

Didn't Brendan explain by saying : when in rome do as the romans ? Totally clear meaning to westerners but further bewilderment to the chinese.

You are not in Nazi Germany now - makes sense to me

@florianschmoldt8659

5 ай бұрын

As a german, I'd take offense to that. I admit, as many countries over the last couple of years, we struggle with growing racism but while the ccp is a real thing, there isn't a "nazi germany" anymore. I get what you are saying but you're pointing at a new generation that's trying hard not to be the universal placeholder for all evil.

did they complain about the plaza security cameras? i think it was a setup

Abide by every country’s customs, it’s good manners . When in Rome 👈 Or you MIGHT just find out the hard way. Do some simple homework before you travel 😎🇦🇺

who started the terms "racist/racism? and why?

@pajanightbadger1713

5 ай бұрын

The concept of "races" would have been introduced by the political class of the time. It only benefits the political class - it certainly doesn't benefit us. No idea how far back it goes though.

The level of ideological gymnastics this person is doing to support / defend racism is dumbfounding. If you listen hard enough you can hear the battle between his indoctrination dogma & his common sense.

Do we talk about other countries by first defining their government? Democratic America, theocratic Iran? No we just say America or Iran. But if it’s China people seem to feel compelled to say Communist China. Which also implies that there might be a China that is not ruled by a communist party. No? They can’t just say China?

First World problems 🙄🙄🙄

It irritates communist when others call them communists. However, they proud to be call communists if they are in their country. I came from a communist country and I knew it.

He could have said it differently???? By playing piano

It is not illegal to take video and photos of other people in China aswell. They take pics of tourist all the time in China, however the tourist has the rights to request to delete their image. You guys will say its freedom and you can do what you want, but what of the person whos pic was taken, do they not have the freedom of privacy or data protection? Ofcourse in the end its up to Dr K to decide if he will remove the video or not, but asking to remove their video is not wrong either.

@e.t.8541

4 ай бұрын

COPYCAT. 🥱 🙄

Ah, I see now. This is the second video that I've watched, so in contrary to what many people think in the comments, your content is actually semi-scripted - both of you just act out your roles. Honestly, it's not obvious from the way those videos are edited, and I think you should underline it somehow cuz people get confused and think this is actually real.

@bigfatkat

5 ай бұрын

Yes, it’s obvious now that he’s not a real teacher, the student isn’t a real student, and this isn’t even a classroom. They’re just playing “Socratic method” roles, which would be fine if this was made clear, but as it stands it feels a bit dishonest. I like the content though so I hope they continue in a more authentic manner.

You guys seem to have missed the fact that Communism is not a race and that China is not a race. Also, a fact is not a race. So what has racism to do with anything?

@anthonymorris5084

5 ай бұрын

Self loathing White Leftists, also known as White saviors, seek out racism so they can virtue signal.

Socratic method.

Never touch a subject without having both sides points of view. Things are not as simple as he is trying to present them. I watched a lot of videos and I reached to the conclusion that both sides are in the wrong. Of course, we can't expect him to argue the he was wrong, nor we can except the Chinese to argue they were wrong.

@SecretScholars

4 ай бұрын

That's interesting. What did you discover that makes you say that he was also in the wrong?

I believe the initial reaction by the Chinese members involved was extreme and disproportionate, but it has also become quite obvious that Dr K has decided to exploit the encounter because he has an agenda and probable bias.

Isn't Communist just referring to a political party? Like calling someone a Republican or Democrat? It doesn't apply to racism.

The piano player is actually very intelligent and chose his words very deliberately because he knew which way they were taking the discussion. When faced with idiots one must remember to be arrogant and to take political correctness out of the equation.

@DavidLS1

5 ай бұрын

Dr. K (the pianist) received more views (and hopefully more money) from the Chinese Karen videos than from all his other videos combined.

"Can facts be racist?" That would depend on the definition of "facts". For example, the scientific consensus can change a lot over time. If you look at 17th or 18th century scientific consensus on races, that consensus, that was deemed as facts at the time, would be pretty racist.

@ian-flanagan

3 ай бұрын

Need some specifics to say for sure, but I'd argue those were flawed conclusions, presumably based on some fact, and some interpretation. If people refered to them as facts, there were overstating the quality of their conclusions. For example, assuming the results of an IQ test represents broad intelligence is a mistake (especially the original IQ tests that required knowledge of European culture). So would you agree that facts cannot be racist, but people can believe racist sentiments and falsely believe them to be facts? Looking at the "fact" in question here ("We are not in Communist China"), the only way it can be "not a fact" is if we ARE in China (false), or China is not Communist (debatable, dependent on perspective/context, but both people in that conversation would say China is a Communist country (althought whether the Chinese man is forced into double-think or not, I couldn't say). So I think it's more solidly a fact than 17th/18th racial pronouncements. I don't think it's a great analogy.

@daedalron

3 ай бұрын

@@ian-flanagan I was not talking about the case here, but just giving an answer to one specific question asked in the video, which was "can facts be racist?"

@ian-flanagan

3 ай бұрын

@@daedalron And what do you think to my reply to that?

@daedalron

3 ай бұрын

@@ian-flanagan "If people refered to them as facts, there were overstating the quality of their conclusions." I agree, but that's only apparent in hindsight. What would people in a century or two think of what we right now would consider to be "facts"? Maybe they will consider that part of what we right now consider facts is also just wrong interpretation of some data? That's why I think the question is a bit of a trap, since before determining if facts can be racist, you need to define clearly what you mean by facts. And also place a limit in time for the claim (like, was it racist at the time the claim/statement was made). If we're talking about objective elements, I would not consider it racist (or sexist, or discriminative, ...), like for example to claim that men are better at most sports than women. But maybe in 200 or 300 years that same statement would be sexist, if for example we imagine a future where cybernetic enhancement exist, and then the difference in muscles between the sex would be no longer relevant.

@ian-flanagan

3 ай бұрын

@@daedalron I think the accurate detection of facts depends completely on epistemological ability and the discovery of other "facts". I don't think hindsight has any effect (unless you got better at epistemology during that time, as we generally did between 17th century and now). If we're talking about statements mis-classified as facts, I think the opposite of the 17th century effect might be true now. In our era, the perception of racism (etc.) is such a taboo that "facts" are challenged if they say anything at all about racial differences, particularly if they can in some way be perceived as positive towards white people. It's xenophilia; the opposite pendulum swing to the 17th century xenophobia. It's also possible the the increased moralising or our time, which (in my opinion) overly-judges other cultures and other times, is also a pendulum, and people in 200 years don't feel anything moralistically about what we currently believe.

kidds have to be taught this......wow

@Pneumanon

5 ай бұрын

Kids have to be taught everything, how else would they learn?

The whole thing was a sad comedy of miscommunication. Someone commented they may have been filming a new year's special and part of the agreement with the TV station may have been that there should be no footage on social media prior to new year. The Chinese girl couldn't articulate coherently why they wanted their footage deleted with 'disco' and 'our right' etc and the Lang guy's english came across as rude and demanding. Sad really.

@Pneumanon

5 ай бұрын

There’s no way they could possibly have controlled whether their images were put on social media since they have no idea who is recording and what those people intended to do with the photos & videos they are taking in a public place. The group either should have never agreed to those terms or they should have rented a private studio space to make their video. If they were making an item for TV they should have been given a budget to cover their expenses at least.

The host is a good musician and a public Artist.., 🎭 Actually??? If anyone has watched the video in its entirety? You would see, the 'host' was initially, the instigator., because the 'tourists' were actually just minding their own business, as they patiently enjoying themselves & waited to use the public piano for the infomercial they wanted to film, at the 'onset' of the video. But host: Brendan mistook them for Japanese techies who were supposed to come film a video for Japan. The first (1) interaction occurring between them, was initiated by host, asking them if they were Japanese? When informed they were Chinese, he approaches them and proceeds to ask one of the women, if she would like to dance the w/him? 😏 "Personally I can't see approaching a perfect stranger, in a public place & solicit a dance with them?!? 🙄 In spite of the woman's friendly and relaxed attitude initially. And she kindly & politely refused. Secondly, when they did approach the host, it was to 'Respectfully' request.., that they not be video taped/recorded. And I must say.., that the man making the request, even complimented the hosts piano playing, adding that they were enjoying it so much? That they might stay a while longer, to listen!? It is at this moment the host, oddly, appears to 'misunderstand' what the man is trying to say? 😶 Which I clearly understood! But the host, now engages in awkward conversation, again misunderstanding the mans POV & begins suggesting tht what the mans comment is inferring? Is, that the they should not be video taping in public!? And this, gradually became a basis for the host to 'gain' offense, at the "Audacity" of a Chinese national attempting to sensor him & his playing in a public place??? 😦 Which I personally, am not convinced was the tourists intention. They just wanted to film their own video while protecting their public images. And maybe? If someone had taken a brief moment to help them understand that in that particular location, it would be very difficult to maintain any privacy; "unless it is a movie studio, that due to licensing issues restricts any through traffic during filming" no one else can actually enforce the privacy issue in a public space such as that. 😐 The entire encounter, is then recorded! With the 'Request' completely negated; in what appears to be a subtle attempt by the host to invalidate the other guys simple request, while simultaneously producing an unexpected notoriety. And while I agree that he guys reaction was 'over the top' it remains a question of simple propriety & consideration on both of their parts. It seems to me, it was all completely unnecessary rhetoric and chaos that resulted by what I perceive to be a thoughtless, be it unintentional, yet advantageous media ploy to attract a wider audience. Lastly, the host spent a lot of time in "his own defense" arguing something that could easily have been diffused by simply ushering and not just simply 'directing' the tourists to "walk" away from the cameras area of focus.

@SecretScholars

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for providing details to support your perspective.

What do you mean tourists?

They were Chinese in UK and not in China = Fact and acting as if they were in China

Karen and Darren.🇨🇳

Racist isn't a replacement word for rude/obnoxious/etc. Racist is a specific word with specific meaning. Just like the word 'literally' has a specific meaning despite many people using it incorrectly on mass scale. Also, the Chinese people in that video initially said "that's discrimination". It was only later after much more miscommunication did they attribute racisms to the mans behavior. And I don't blame them. The guy is so insecure and unware of what was happening, he acted like a complete child throwing a tantrum. The entire situation was fueled by the fact the piano man immediately became defensive when there was no rational reason to do so. Had he gathered the full data, his feelings would not have turned negative. His ignorance to the limitations of second language communication was what caused the entire situation. I'm really annoyed that so much garbage is mass produced in China and sent here but I stand with that group of Chinese who were mistreated to extreme degree by an ignorant man.

@stanbalo

5 ай бұрын

I so disagree. Firstly, at the beginning everything was fine. They interacted with no problem and they even danced. Then everything flipped and the group had an attitude. Race has nothing to do with this. It is all about entitlement. UK laws are in favor of the pianist so what the group can only do is humbly request to blur their faces. Asking for it to be deleted is too much. It is their fault anyway that they were in the video. The camera is visible all the time. Also if they are that sensitive, they should have worn masks. Besides, if they did the actual filming, some random people would definitely film them given the time we live in right now. How funny that they went to a busy place and expect that there would be no one filming.

lol the premise for this video is absolutely rediculous. Nice topical clickbait though.

@pajanightbadger1713

5 ай бұрын

Paid or blackmailed?

There are actually TWO Chinas. People's Republic of China, and Republic of China. So technically, just saying "You're not in China" is not sufficient if you want to really get down to it. So no, saying "You're not in communist China" is not racist in any possible way whatsoever.

@Tjalve70

5 ай бұрын

@@howardj602 They are Chinese. But they are not Chinas. There are two sovereign independent governments called China. You can't really call them countries, since neither of them have declared independence from the COUNTRY called China. And both of them claim sovereignty over all of China. But anyway, there are two Chinas. Just like there are two Koreas, two Congos, four Guineas, and two Guyanas (although they spell it differently).

Not to mention that there are two Chinas, both which claim to be the real China, one being a democracy and the other being communist. Which means that "communist china" is a synonym for mainland China, and "democratic China" is a synonym for Taiwan. Or, as communist China calls it, "the province of Taipei". Isn't that funny? Describing one thing as what it is, is offensive, but letting a nation get away with asserting that its neighbour has *no sovereignty* simply doesn't matter.

I don’t know how Dr K was being racist in the video. I think most people would say the same thing when a foreigner trying to impose a foreign law on your own country! How else would you say it? I’m Chinese and I’m don’t feel offended. I feel that Dr k was bullied by these people.

"Is it possible for facts to be racist?" I wanted to say no, but it's actually a yes, all you have to do is look at and consider the US testimony oath. "Do you solemnly swear that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?" The facts part of that is the "truth [...], and nothing but the truth", but it also emphasizes that you have to tell the WHOLE truth. Without the whole truth you can explicitly say the truth/facts, while implicitly lying/misleading. This is very often and obviously used in politics. Of course there are some people today who went too far with this, and just see phobias and -isms everywhere, which is equally wrong, if not worse. Context and phrasing also matters. For example you can say "blue people are equal" as part of a joke. Or you can sarcastically say that. Not that I think Kavanagh did anything wrong in that interaction.

Socratic dialogues.

Right but he's also making the assumption that because they are from communist China that they are asking him to not publish a video of them hen that has absolutely nothing to do with it. He's trying to anger them based on a fallacy. It's part of their PROFESSIONAL, not communist, status that they have requested that. He's immediately disrespecting them because they are Chinese, young and perhaps to him, silly looking and not meant to be taken seriously. Therein lies the racism. Because you can bet if CNN were filming there and they asked him to stop, he would.

@littlecatfeet9064

5 ай бұрын

Asking someone to erase footage of them filmed in a public place is something most people should know isn’t a right in the UK. They were aggressive and out of order in their request.

@curiousnomadic

5 ай бұрын

@@littlecatfeet9064 I believe CNN with their bodyguard would be far more demanding and aggressive. The difference is they would be white.

The thing is Brent DOES hold racist views. He says derogatory things on occasion including several times in that particular video.

@SecretScholars

4 ай бұрын

Can you give a specific example? I am genuinely interested for the sake of a further conversation on the topic.

@alandeon

4 ай бұрын

@@SecretScholars I think you'd have to watch his videos for a while as I have. Even in the full video he mocks the woman's accent when she says a word by repeating several similar sounding words knowing that's not what she's saying because of her strong accent. That in itself is him being racist by mocking her for her speech pattern because she's not English. I've also seen him do the same in other videos and I believe in this video he tries to get another woman to dance silly because he didn't respect her and wanted her to dance like a trained monkey for his entertainment. You can always tell a racist when they pepper in comments that are inappropriate and unnecessary (ie "communist" China rather than just China). Normally one can go unnoticed but if it slides into his daily conversations then you can more easily see his true views on other people. I've Heard Brents little slights several times showing (me at least) that he holds a certain view of "others". Giving specific examples means I'd have to watch his videos for his conversation and I normally only enjoy them for the musical aspect of them and wish he'd shut up more and simply enjoy the piano.

The whole basis of racism is the misconception that our species is divided into separate "races". It's absolutely up to you if you want to live with this division in your perception or not. May I recommend not?

@nickbarber2080

5 ай бұрын

I think the Chinese man there could tell exactly who was Chinese and who wasnt. And used that in a sad attempt to impose control on a situation he didnt approve of.

@mrharry448

5 ай бұрын

Most would agree. However frequently race is also an indicator of a very different culture and tradition that may be divisive. In the UK I consider anybody 100% like me if they speak the same, laugh at the same things, eat roughly the same foods, play the same computer games etc. Skin colour is irrelevant culturally. However if you attend a West African church in London or devote yourself to reading one book above all others or consider yourself to be OF the culture of a different society in opposition to mine then we have established differences that have firm boundaries that prevent intimacy

@jkuang

5 ай бұрын

But Brendan spin it into "CHINESE ARE INVADING OUR FREEDOM" That is totally IDEOLOGY RACISM. It is similar when having an argument with a black man under the exact context, and Brendan claims that "BACKS ARE INVADING OUR FREEDOM." The reason is simple: You need to have CONTEXT and PROPRTIONALITY. You can not just take a public space conflict and resolution, and spin it with generalization and spin it out of context and proportion. That is RACISM in disguise of ideology.

@jkuang

5 ай бұрын

RACISM IS GENERALIZATION. And Brendan is clearly making a public space conflict and resolution into 'CHINESE ARE INVADING OUR FREEDOM."

@barreloffun10

5 ай бұрын

Are there breeds of dog?

Communism isn't a race anyway.

在羅馬就入境隨俗。 Problem solved.

Who are these two? They are commenting on another channels content and what they are offering is parochial in terms of their analysis. Hint China is many things but has not been anything akin to a true communist state in decades. Hint under no system of communism are there billionaires. Socialism via the political system known as communism means moving away from the private ownership of the means of production and towards a classless society. On what planet is modern China such a system? The term you are looking for is authoritarian regime as that more accurately describes modern China. What they are advocating in this clip spans the political spectrum.

CCP🦠🦠🦠🥶😱

Go look for all the videos, there's like 3 or 4 videos, one is when he starts playing and the group watch from far, another video when they talk to him and they play the piano, and another where they start arguing. The problem is way more complicated than that, both sides, wrong and disrespect each other, but the thing is: They are in the UK and must respect UK laws and moral values, if they were in China he should respect China laws and social values. If one is Democratic and the other Authoritarian, it is their own people choice.

@kaseyc9459

5 ай бұрын

​@@howardj602If I'm filming myself in a public place and you happen to walk into my shot, I am not obligated to stop filming or erase my content. Your NDA with another party is not binding on me. He was largely filming himself and highlighted them (in a positive way) a few times, but he wasn't following them around nor was he attempting to create his own production of whatever it was they were doing in that space.

@kaseyc9459

5 ай бұрын

@@howardj602 Thinking this was orchestrated is a real stretch. I don't see the courts having a different opinion. They don't have an expectation of privacy in public domain. The issue is going to be to what extent is his uploading the footage of them (not filming) an intent to commercialize or capitalize on their images. As I said he was largely filming himself. They came up to him and even shook his hand and played a little. Thereafter he showed them in a positive way as spectators, maybe twice. The idea he was trying to use them standing around to make money is silly. He only uploaded all this content because he was shocked at their behavior, as he should have been. The irony is, had they not caused a scene, no one would have even paid attention to them. If they didn't want to be filmed all they had to do was move. He was under no obligation to stop filming and the police have no authority to ask him to stop.

I don't understand how one can say China is a communist country... I mean, who in his right mind doesn't see China as capitalist as the USA or any European country.

@Jason-rl7nf

5 ай бұрын

Because it's run by the Chinese Communist Party. Are you from another planet?

I am a citizen of Taiwan, and initially, upon watching this video, I was quite angry. I was ready to criticize the Communist Party, but after watching several videos on this pianist's channel, I realized that things were gradually becoming unusual. Many of his videos involve playing the piano in public places and then getting into disputes when asked by mall staff or others to stop playing. He would argue with them, insisting that music is right, and we should rely on the power of music to make the world a better place. I think he is a controversial KZreadr. In other video， where the pianist invited a woman in a red dress to dance, and she declined, he directly commented in front of her, saying, "British girls are more interesting." The woman in the red dress did not argue with him, but he intentionally discussed discriminatory piano pieces, and still, no one paid attention to him. Finally, when Liu Mengying, like others in the pianist's videos, asked him not to play, she fell into the old pianist's trap. He is indeed a KZreadr who creates controversy by playing the piano in public places. Moreover, he attempted to grab the national flag from the hands of the woman in the red dress, which was actually quite impolite. Would you grab something from a stranger when talking to them? It's absurd. However, the camera didn't capture it, and from the footage, it seemed like the old pianist was being yelled at without doing much. At this point, the person doing the yelling brought up age-related issues, fitting right into the stereotype of a "little pink." Liu Mengying's( the girl who wearing a red scarf)English is not proficient. When she says "because of China's laws," she actually means that she collaborated with China to film advertisements, and she signed a commercial agreement with a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA). This NDA is in accordance with Chinese laws It's like Jiang Taigong fishing, and this time he caught a whale.

Why do people choose to divide our species into separate races in the first place?

@outoforbit00

5 ай бұрын

Because there are seperate races duh!

@jaydee6268

5 ай бұрын

Depends, like gender, on how you define race. Genetically, sure one race, humans, but nowadays people define race to mean more ethnic terms, which is then too often conflated in terms of nationality. Especially in Mandarin which very often uses a word which means both ethnicity and nationality.

@pajanightbadger1713

5 ай бұрын

@@DM-ur8vc No, but every single individual has unique genetics. What's the benefit to your perception to divide our species into races? It certainly benefits the political class, why do you buy into it?

@Lazydaisy646

5 ай бұрын

Born in different countries, raised in different countries with different cultures and political experience, of course people are different. You do realise that its only the last 100 or so years that travel has been freely accessible to the majority. Most people only knew a rather small area and society experience. Nobody decided, it just happened.

@Blandy0487

5 ай бұрын

@@jaydee6268 This is important! Especially when it comes to China, there are 56 different ethnicities in China, Chinese is a nationality not a race and it could actually be racist to conflate the two

Brendan uses his youtube channel to promote his website and to sell merchandise, while the group of Chinese people admit that they are filming for a company. I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect this does constitute filming for commercial use, so he probably should be seeking their permission or at the very least have informed them that they are being filmed. Not to mention the fact that both parties have almost certainly not sought permission or paid the relevant location fee to St Pancras.

@TuhljinTampergauge

5 ай бұрын

... Why? Why do you think that if a video is used for a monetized channel that people in it, filmed in a public space, should have to give consent? That's just a made-up idea with no legal or traditional ethical basis.

@user-mw5tl3ks9b

5 ай бұрын

@@TuhljinTampergauge Pretty much any screen agency will recommend that when filming for commercial purposes you obtain written consent, or at the very least include signs indicating that recording is in progress. It's true there is no specific "image right" in UK law, but there are other laws relating to expectation of privacy and wrongful disclosure of private information that he could easily fall foul of by recording people without their consent and publishing the video online. With regards to a traditional ethical basis, I think your statement is incorrect - people have historically been very opposed to being filmed without their knowledge or consent. Just look at attitudes to CCTV in public spaces, for instance. People don't like being filmed, and checking they are OK with it beforehand is just polite.

The contrived profundity that this guy displays is hilarious.

This series will blow up if you continue making these and you will be attacked for trying to create understanding. This is a sincere warning.

@pajanightbadger1713

5 ай бұрын

From a shill

@Naatti922

5 ай бұрын

I'm a shill for understanding

@jkuang

5 ай бұрын

But Brendan spin it into "CHINESE ARE INVADING OUR FREEDOM" That is totally IDEOLOGY RACISM. It is similar when having an argument with a black man under the exact context, and Brendan claims that "BACKS ARE INVADING OUR FREEDOM." The reason is simple: You need to have CONTEXT and PROPRTIONALITY. You can not just take a public space conflict and resolution, and spin it with generalization and spin it out of context and proportion. That is RACISM in disguise of ideology.

Half joking, you two will make GREAT democrats.