When my professor from college returns to debate... with brutal honesty.

#professor #debate
One of my old professors from Grad School reached out and offered to come on the channel. In this video we have a debate on race at the college and things get brutally honest. Slightly edited for time. If you all find this valuable I will share the full conversation.
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  • @Princess_Feona
    @Princess_FeonaАй бұрын

    I resigned from a university when I was informed that I would not be allowed to fail any student in a “protected class” regardless of their exam scores or the quality of their work. I wasn’t willing to put my name on anyone’s degree who did not earn it. There’s a reason why our country is filled with a generation of unqualified scientists. I suspect other fields are suffering the same degradation of talent and ability.

  • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683

    @dr.emilschaffhausen4683

    Ай бұрын

    My mother-in-law was told the same thing and this was more than 20 years ago.

  • @15thobserver

    @15thobserver

    Ай бұрын

    Funny enough is that the most scientific people I know of are doing experiments all the time to test their reality and they are blacklisted by academia. While at the same time there are people graduating with Doctorates who are average level students at best. Its my honest held belief that the whole system was built to destroy intellectual progression in such a subtle way. Meritocracy was a lie told to the peasants (us) to keep them competing amongst themselves.

  • @mustang607

    @mustang607

    Ай бұрын

    Didn't this start with participation trophies in grade school, a bit after new math replaced math?

  • @FreakazoidRobots

    @FreakazoidRobots

    Ай бұрын

    You have more courage than the vast majority of professors, I'm afraid.

  • @ktwashere5637

    @ktwashere5637

    Ай бұрын

    its so absurd and as someone out in the workforce - we have recent graduates coming in with zero skills. I had someone come to work in a political campaigning charity who didn't understand how to conduct primary research, ie she was asking about a new politician on the scene and didn't know how to find out about him. The idea of putting his name into Google hadn't occured to her. She had a first class masters degree. we were all flabbergasted. I know older people always look at younger people and ask wtf but this was extreme.

  • @nascentcloud3740
    @nascentcloud3740Ай бұрын

    It's called DEI and yeah, it's racist.

  • @NeoN-PeoN

    @NeoN-PeoN

    Ай бұрын

    Extremely racist.

  • @petercaulfield5065

    @petercaulfield5065

    Ай бұрын

    DEI isn't racist. It's primarily AntiWhite. It is a tool which weaponizes already existing feelings of envy and inferiority against all characteristics of the progenitors of civilized, First World societies (aka "those in Globalism's way). As such, it is also staunchly against anything White, heterosexual, Christian or male.

  • @smc1897

    @smc1897

    Ай бұрын

    Diversity = targeted recruitment of activists and subversives Equity = fast tracking those people into positions of authority Inclusion = completing the capture of those positions by exempting them from performance metrics

  • @ReactionaryRighty-nt6hq

    @ReactionaryRighty-nt6hq

    Ай бұрын

    DEI is literally what the Bill of Rights was meant to protect. Yes, I get that you think legacies and nepotism aren't corrupt.

  • @fancygiraffe3340

    @fancygiraffe3340

    Ай бұрын

    @@ReactionaryRighty-nt6hq No, the bill of rights is meant to restrict government involvement in people's lives. DEI is a top-down government initiative that picks and chooses between people based on race instead of competence. Nepotism isn't good but you're not going to get rid of it by abandoning meritocracy. Quite the opposite. Now you'll just have incompetent rich kids and incompetent poor kids in all your best schools leading to incompetent leadership in institution. Not a single ounce of competence anywhere to be found will not make your nation better in any way. EDIT: DEI is also a way to enforce ideological conformity among the entire bureaucracy and financial sector. You must either accept this ideology or the institutions that follow it shove you in the trash.

  • @steve8610
    @steve8610Ай бұрын

    "If you all find this valuable I will share the full conversation." PLEASE SHARE THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION!

  • @Nashvillain10SE

    @Nashvillain10SE

    Ай бұрын

    He needs to hear from "all" I guess. 😂

  • @SecretScholars

    @SecretScholars

    Ай бұрын

    Will do

  • @sjm9876

    @sjm9876

    Ай бұрын

    Yes absolutely please do

  • @darkdudironaji
    @darkdudironajiАй бұрын

    That last story is nuts. Passing a student, who has done no work, makes a college degree worthless. Congratulations on putting people in debt for zero prospect of jobs due to inability to handle the work that they failed to prepare for.

  • @npcimknot958

    @npcimknot958

    Ай бұрын

    It’s actually the cruelest thing to do to someone. Lie to them.. and when they go off into the world.. their ego is so big.. and when they fail day 1.. their entire world crumbles.. it’s cruel.. when u realize you were gaslit, and the whole world is laughing at you.. and u literally.. have no skill. It’s cruel

  • @cuerex8580

    @cuerex8580

    Ай бұрын

    @@npcimknot958 this makes school pointless

  • @abraham_myshkin

    @abraham_myshkin

    Ай бұрын

    @@npcimknot958 This is absolutely true. It's unfortunate how disproportionately this scenario affects young people who benefit from affirmative action.

  • @Princess_Feona

    @Princess_Feona

    17 күн бұрын

    @@npcimknot958 except now the employment systems are following the same rules. These people continue to fail upwards.

  • @InternationalMunchersOfMystery

    @InternationalMunchersOfMystery

    23 сағат бұрын

    who doesnt want drs that cant pass kindergarten english

  • @leebrown1049
    @leebrown1049Ай бұрын

    Glad you're doing okay Warren. You need to reach out to Bret Weinstein as that would be a great chat. Best wishes from the Uk

  • @Daycros

    @Daycros

    Ай бұрын

    that would be something to look forward to.

  • @jenniferbond5771

    @jenniferbond5771

    Ай бұрын

    Great idea!

  • @kitkakitteh

    @kitkakitteh

    Ай бұрын

    Bret - or Eric- love listening to him

  • @leebrown1049

    @leebrown1049

    Ай бұрын

    Actually if you can't reach out to Bret you could try reaching out to Chris Williamson who is a great lad and excellent youtuber, I know he's friends with Bret. I'll give you a mention in his chat and see if he picks up on it

  • @johanponken

    @johanponken

    Ай бұрын

    @@kitkakitteh I do too. (Eric has quite another field of expertise, though.)

  • @ghr8184
    @ghr8184Ай бұрын

    Another vote for "share the whole conversation."

  • @SecretScholars

    @SecretScholars

    Ай бұрын

    Will do

  • @boazdror
    @boazdrorАй бұрын

    Recently came across an interview with Douglas Murray in which the idea that Liberal Arts education might be a Ponzi scheme came up and it resonated with me... in that college perpetuates a world-view in which endless conversations about the institutions we inhabit - and intellectual obsession with the minutiae of narcissistic self-reflection - replace actual beneficial work, since everyone ends up out of a job, thousands of dollars in debt, and needing to justify the journey by doubling down on the cult-like dogma of these institutions.

  • @Lydia-Frost

    @Lydia-Frost

    Ай бұрын

    I watched a Jordan Peterson video that explained that kids are already of that mind before they reach college. It starts way earlier than college.

  • @lafidala.1726

    @lafidala.1726

    Ай бұрын

    Do you remember the name of the video?

  • @Lydia-Frost

    @Lydia-Frost

    Ай бұрын

    @@lafidala.1726 If you're asking me, it's on Jordan's account. Episode 453.

  • @boazdror

    @boazdror

    Ай бұрын

    For my part it was this one kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXeopLevdq-TgbQ.htmlsi=6v1Oz1oAUwLpgDFd

  • @Gee-xb7rt

    @Gee-xb7rt

    Ай бұрын

    shows both of you are smoothed brained, liberal arts is a fast pass into corporate admin, they don't tell you that in college, they want you to take the business classes and get nowhere. admin wants critical thinkers, not you and Doug Murray.

  • @sharpbakers1
    @sharpbakers1Ай бұрын

    It’s insane to try and match the racial percentage in the population for any single job category.

  • @Gee-xb7rt

    @Gee-xb7rt

    Ай бұрын

    I hired kids to work front desk, shelving, and food patrol at a university library, really wasn't counting, got called to admin because I had 40% minority staff, and you should have heard the old white people scree. People really believe that great replacement stuff.

  • @ktwashere5637
    @ktwashere5637Ай бұрын

    Warren your face lights up so much talking to him. Its lovely to see you happy.

  • @brentoutashape9141
    @brentoutashape9141Ай бұрын

    I'm a bartender and a server. I don't discriminate, but I definitely profile. Past experience has proven me right many times, but I always give the best service and product, regardless. People, all people, are deserving of respect and dignity until they show you otherwise. If you have money in your hands, conduct yourself like a civilized adult, and understand the custom in my country known as "tips," you are welcome. I'm glad I'm a bartender and not a professor.

  • @richarddrapeau7599
    @richarddrapeau7599Ай бұрын

    "I feel students are idiots..." finally a professor understands.

  • @WanderAbroad-pq5ph

    @WanderAbroad-pq5ph

    Ай бұрын

    Everyone should be taken on their own merits and this has always been my conflict with teachers in my past. Sweeping generalization is a fallacy that helps nobody. That mentality seemed so prolific that it lead to the teacher having a near god complex as they believe the opposite about themselves. If the student is an idiot then they... are not. They are the all knowing that imparts knowledge and you should sit with your mouth open and absorb. Well, that turned out well as so many students turn into raging socialists that hate their country because they adapted their teachers beliefs. Back to me, I was curious to learn, not challenge and I would ask questions because I was paying attention to what the teachers were saying. I started asking questions they had no answers to and it doesn't go well when a teacher suddenly is met with the fact they are not omniscient. And heaven forbid you ask them to explain contradictions in their own teachings, from religion to science to physics. The incredible arrogance by teachers is renown for centuries as they tear into even their own that would dare question anything contrary to echo chamber called education. I was left with one blazing reality, I was learning from people that didn't care about me or my future or how things turned out for me. Even worse I was an idiot in their eyes, a moron, a fool, not worthy of their status. How well does education turn out when the educator has such a low view of their students? This professor does not understand as you stated and it would highlight what another stated, that actors and teachers are nearly always blatant narcissist's, believing they are simply better than those around them and this teacher stated exactly that "I feel students are idiots."

  • @em0_tion

    @em0_tion

    25 күн бұрын

    Most sure are. I know I wasn't the exception! 😂

  • @martinsanders1283
    @martinsanders1283Ай бұрын

    Saw a quote the other day, “Do a degree in what you love and you’ll never work a day in your life, because they ain’t hiring in that field.” Sums up degrees to me.

  • @vahidfarahani9784
    @vahidfarahani9784Ай бұрын

    love the format, two people just discussing something, no one trying to prove something respectfully.

  • @Nashvillain10SE

    @Nashvillain10SE

    Ай бұрын

    Except that one is completely anonymous

  • @Smo1k

    @Smo1k

    Ай бұрын

    @@Nashvillain10SE Says something about the dangers of insisting on institutions of education be excempt from unrelated politics.

  • @Nashvillain10SE

    @Nashvillain10SE

    Ай бұрын

    @@Smo1k It says something about his lack of courage in particular.

  • @felixthecat2786
    @felixthecat2786Ай бұрын

    I remember a professor (white) telling me how hard it was to get tenure. He said it was incredibly difficult and he spent over 30 years trying to get it. He is known for being an amazing teacher who was nominated for a prestigious award and beloved by his students. If he can't get tenure, then most people are also struggling to get tenure. A lot of professors understandably would believe it to be about race, but I don't necessarily think it comes down to that. I think these people are gatekeepers who are trying to keep people out because they don't want their power structure threatened. I can give you a specific person that comes to mind. I feel like there's so much bureaucracy and it's really a "good ol' boys club" where there is some real barriers to upward mobility for everyone. I don't think it has so much to do with race, gender, or orientation as it does how much you are in the "good graces" of "certain people" at top. These people want you to constantly flatter their ego and if you don't do that then you just stay at the bottom indefinitely. I remember meeting some of the "people at the top" and many of them were self absorbed, arrogant, self aggrandizing people. I remember a very high up "VIP" telling me that "I just got lucky" with a film project. Like this guy wasn't capable of humbling himself enough to say "good job" to a first year graduate student. How pathetic do you have to be in order to be unwilling to say good job to a lowly student. I feel like people like this have no business being around students or young adults at all. These people at the top are petty sociopaths and narcissists, sorry to say. Therein lies the problem. I know that I'm not a VIP Warren, but I would love to chat about the politics of Emerson some time (or just ANY college in general). The politics have grown feverishly supercilious for both faculty and students at these places. I do think wealth plays a huge role in developing these delusional mindsets. It used to be that working class people could go to college and better themselves. Now the cost of these institutions have become so expensive that it's also turning into a "good ol' boys club" when it comes to who even attends. I think our age group may have been the last to actually have access to these institutions as working class people. It's exacerbated by the fact that many of these corporations used to require a bachelor's degree to even get through their filtering system. I went to undergrad in order to get an entry level customer service job because the post 2008 world was a like some kind of career apocalypse. I couldn't even get a retail job without a bachelor's degree. Fast forward to 2016 and I came to the conclusion that a graduate degree was necessary just to get an office job. I feel like most of these college kids and even professors just have no understanding of this experience. The barriers that our age group faced were profound. A lot of the POC who used to protest were all the children of rich college professors.....Some of which were racist themselves. I could tell you stories about antisemitism among the black student body that I interacted with on a daily basis. Then we could also get into the fact that some of the Chinese students used to talk absolute shit about other students in Mandarin Chinese and purposefully exclude others. I think race is a problem at colleges in a sense that it has become a tribal situation where POC are pitting themselves against white people. There's so much anger and resentment that is being misdirected towards the people who are least likely to be responsible for the problems that POC face. I think those issues are more class and economic related than they are race related. I would really enjoy watching a video about our particular age group (mid to late 80s babies).

  • @ItApproaches

    @ItApproaches

    Ай бұрын

    More likely there is only so many spots for tenure and those in power only would give tenure to those who fall in line with their narrative. Skin color and skill doesn't matter. If you are part of the bias system and they just so happen to give you tenure then they will. It's basically a corrupt lottery.

  • @SirFluffy100

    @SirFluffy100

    Ай бұрын

    TLDR?

  • @ItApproaches

    @ItApproaches

    Ай бұрын

    And censorship strikes me again. Try all you want KZread, you only make me stronger!

  • @brizziefritz4794

    @brizziefritz4794

    Ай бұрын

    I experienced something similar. Did undergrad Psychology and one of the assignments was an analysis of depression vs anxiety. In my paper I presented a model I had designed which helped explain their underlying causes and thereby the differences and similarities between the two. I got a low mark but did not get an explanation as to what was wrong with my work. I didn't necessarily wanted a higher grade but wanted to know what was wrong with the model. The higher up I went, the lower the grade I got, still without giving me any reason. Until I finally went to the head of the faculty who explained to me that the model might have been good, but it is not what undergrads do. They repeat what we tell them, they don't come up with new and better ways of thinking. Don't threaten the orthodoxy.

  • @MrVvulf

    @MrVvulf

    Ай бұрын

    Getting tenure these days has nothing to do with performance in the classroom or the performance of students. It's all about publishing. If you publish tons of cited papers, or textbooks that bring revenue in the university, or BEST of all bring research dollars into the university - those are the pathway to tenure.

  • @Jay828__
    @Jay828__Ай бұрын

    Moving away from Western Massachusetts was best for my worldview and mental health. Consider it.

  • @constructenglish1
    @constructenglish1Ай бұрын

    Thank you for the work you do. You are a much needed voice

  • @auriolhays4287
    @auriolhays4287Ай бұрын

    In South Africa, there have been cases of students trying to get a pass...not doing the work...and using the excuse of their activism, and their affiliations with the "right" people to get by. The game is an old one

  • @wiseonwords

    @wiseonwords

    Ай бұрын

    @auriolhays4287 - I taught English for several years at an American university in the Middle East. I had a few students who wrote essays about mohammed - the "perfect man" in their view - and then expected to get top marks because of the subject of their essay! Hilarious!

  • @npcimknot958

    @npcimknot958

    Ай бұрын

    The hard lesson is, ok. Don’t do it. We’ll give u an a.. but u’ll regret it later in life when the real world won’t bend and u realize your not smart.. u art capable of working.. it only hurts u in the end.

  • @Mopark25

    @Mopark25

    24 күн бұрын

    Literally striking in exam rooms because they can't pass on their own

  • @FlatEarthMath
    @FlatEarthMathАй бұрын

    After having listened to the frank pragmatism of your former professor, I can see why he didn't make tenure. He was skirting too close to conservative principles (roll up your sleeves and get to work) rather than building undergraduate activists, which is the goal of any liberal institution.

  • @viracocha03
    @viracocha03Ай бұрын

    Would be interested if this prof had the stats on how many teachers (all races) want tenure and are qualified for it and how many of those who want tenure actually get it and what percentage of professors as a whole who are tenure are non white.

  • @GRRityI
    @GRRityIАй бұрын

    Look forward to the full conversation, IMO folk are definitely interested in long-form chats, look at the success of the JRE podcast. cheers for the content.

  • @thinkingcitizen
    @thinkingcitizenАй бұрын

    one of the biggest groups always excluded/misunderstood when it comes to Race on campus and adult life is Asian Americans (mainly Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Korean, Filipino) ... in my med school classes the Indian Americans are always the top scorers, in my clinical rotations at a top hospital the nurses were 30-40% Filipino American, in my undergrad physics and math courses the Asian Americans dominated,.... in general, they are much more science and engineering oriented even if they are liberal, whereas White Latin and Black liberals are much more race and sociology oriented (you see this in Europe too)... fascinating, but I think it has to do with how f**ed up education has been in America and the West for several decades OR maybe just a byproduct of slavery and colonialism causing downstream psychological issues among the masses.. the only people immune to it are relatively recent immigrants i.e. Asian Americans ! EDIT: btw my parents immigrated from Eastern Europe and I can relate more with Asian Americans than ay other group in the US. I hate identity politics but I've come to terms with the fact that my immigrant and Slavic background have played a major role in my life in the States.

  • @chuckecheese5251

    @chuckecheese5251

    Ай бұрын

    Latinx 😂

  • @drugsorme2714

    @drugsorme2714

    Ай бұрын

    its because there are education requirements to immigrate.

  • @thinkingcitizen

    @thinkingcitizen

    Ай бұрын

    @@drugsorme2714 would agree but when I was referring to Asian Americans, I'm talking about kids and grandkids of the immigrants from China, India, Japan, etc.... yes some of those people's parents/grandparents came here as doctors or scientists, but many came here as small business hopefuls 'think Gas stations and asian restaurants'

  • @BonusFiddle

    @BonusFiddle

    Ай бұрын

    My Parents from Latin America. I’m a woman in tech since 93. Dont care about race. However since then white savior teachers train students to think about race even when their immigrant parents don’t give a.f.

  • @npcimknot958

    @npcimknot958

    Ай бұрын

    As an Asian. It has to do with cultural upbringing. It’s school or die.

  • @agapologia
    @agapologiaАй бұрын

    I think a distinction between "racist" and "discriminatory" is necessary when asking if an institution is "racist".

  • @viracocha03

    @viracocha03

    Ай бұрын

    They are one in the same to the left.

  • @Princess_Feona

    @Princess_Feona

    Ай бұрын

    @viracocha03 I suspect that being discriminatory against white men is considered neither racist nor discriminatory to the left.

  • @Ichthyodactyl

    @Ichthyodactyl

    Ай бұрын

    If the basis of the discrimination is race (or perceived race), it's racist. If that's not the basis of the discrimination, it's not racist. That's the only distinction that needs to be made but it is an important one.

  • @agapologia

    @agapologia

    Ай бұрын

    @@Ichthyodactyl not all race-based discrimination is racist, just as not all sex-based discrimination is sexist, and not all class-based discrimination is classist. There are legitimate reasons to show preferential treatment even on (sometimes especially on) immutable characteristics.

  • @nicesprite9518

    @nicesprite9518

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@agapologia Could you share some examples that would not fit those definitions then? Because I really can't think of any myself. The simplest definition of racism is also literally 'discrimination or prejudice based on race', so this makes it hard to agree with your take. I'd say not all race-based *bias* would be racist, however. For example, assuming which type of personality someone may have on first sight based on their assumed race would be a racial bias. But treating them less well than someone who looks differently solely because of that would be a manifestation of racism, no matter to which extent or how legitimate one may think it is.

  • @shepard59
    @shepard59Ай бұрын

    I want to see a longer form interview. Good interview sir

  • @kjnoah
    @kjnoahАй бұрын

    2:40 Best question and a very reveling answer. Color, culture and coital choices have nothing to do with logic, science or our ability to provide a diverse perspective on technical topics or any topic that is not specifically focused on color, culture or coital choice. Statistical reality, even when measurable, does not equate to any intentional weighting in favor of one race. Conversely, making complaints based on racial representation and not diversity of thought, is definitely racist.

  • @silentone11111111
    @silentone11111111Ай бұрын

    Almost 100k subs. Keep it up 🎉

  • @DJ7223
    @DJ7223Ай бұрын

    I'd love to see the whole conversation.

  • @RM-dc6zd
    @RM-dc6zdАй бұрын

    asking people their various demographic identifiers when applying for jobs makes EVERYONE who doesn’t get the job feel like it must have been racism, sexism, etc. The black people, the hispanic people, the asians, even the whites. DEI is not well thought out.

  • @jacksnack00
    @jacksnack00Ай бұрын

    I love your videos. Always look forward to being enlightened

  • @christhewritingjester3164
    @christhewritingjester3164Ай бұрын

    It sucks how someone like you who started out with a genuine empathy of "oh no, I'm sorry you feel that way. What can I do?" is used by these brats so they can just get out of doing work. Not showing up to class or doing any of the work and expecting no ramifications is privilege. Great convo!

  • @theodorearaujo971
    @theodorearaujo971Ай бұрын

    If a person experiences being a victim in a place, they should leave that place.

  • @maxknuckles13
    @maxknuckles13Ай бұрын

    People have diluted terms like racism soo thin that hardly have a meaning anymore.. the air is racist, exercise is racist.. it's become a meme

  • @misob

    @misob

    Ай бұрын

    yeap, if i flex my right butt cheek while passing gas, there's someone out there who'll call me a right wing extremist lol

  • @nahnotsomuch2292

    @nahnotsomuch2292

    Ай бұрын

    Math is racist. That's another fun one.

  • @RaveyDavey

    @RaveyDavey

    Ай бұрын

    You can play a game with google by inserting a random topic into "________ is racist". I just put "board games are racist" and lo and behold....various articles on why board games are racist (also some are evil and capitalist too apparently).

  • @opinion3742

    @opinion3742

    Ай бұрын

    It is actually people trying to examine the nuances of a historical atrocity and its echo down the generations.

  • @opinion3742

    @opinion3742

    Ай бұрын

    @@misob There is someone out there who will call you an idiot for making a comment like that. And they would be right.

  • @allans.243
    @allans.243Ай бұрын

    Keep posting sir.

  • @centerfield6339
    @centerfield6339Ай бұрын

    Just listening to this fuy, I dont think it was his skin colour that's stopping his tenure. He's not thinking; he's feeling.

  • @VinceLyle2161
    @VinceLyle2161Ай бұрын

    I notice Warren using the construction "I feel like" quite a bit, like the phrase is interchangeable with "I think." It isn't. "I feel like" is weaker than "I think." Warren, you teach students critical thinking, to engage their minds and not just depend on their emotions. Even though this was an informal conversation with a former professor, you should be saying, "I think." Or at least downshift to "In my opinion."

  • @williamrockwell9705

    @williamrockwell9705

    Ай бұрын

    We live in a totally feminized society now, feelings are all that matter.

  • @jgonsalk

    @jgonsalk

    2 күн бұрын

    I actually prefer this as it puts out an opinion with less force and opens it up to be countered. Healthy disagreement is a very good thing. It also could be more intellectually honest. I like to say "I feel" when there is no proper argument and "I think" when I have a well thought out opinion. I think this is a better approach because it allows you to better telegraph how much supporting evidence you have backing up a position.

  • @heartsky
    @heartskyАй бұрын

    Very valuable, more please!

  • @fredrm6023
    @fredrm6023Ай бұрын

    This conversation was a SPIKE LEE JOINT

  • @dougmasters4561
    @dougmasters4561Ай бұрын

    Not only does how you think have nothing to do with skin color, neither does morality.

  • @golDroger88

    @golDroger88

    Ай бұрын

    Wrong. Blood is part of identity and your values have everything to do with identity.

  • @dougmasters4561

    @dougmasters4561

    Ай бұрын

    @golDroger88 ? No murdering innocent people is wrong, and nobody's skin color changes that.

  • @golDroger88

    @golDroger88

    Ай бұрын

    @@dougmasters4561 What does murdering innocent people have to do with what we're talking about? Also murder is wrong only if you believe it is wrong. The reason why we generally believe it is wrong are two, the first is that we don't want to be murdered and we think order is required for prosperity, the second is that we believe in a religion that considers life sacred. But if you are dealing with someone that does not believe these things then he can have the legitimate belief that murder is not wrong, it's just an opinion.

  • @dougmasters4561

    @dougmasters4561

    Ай бұрын

    @golDroger88 literally, there is a line in the video that said your skin color has nothing to do with how you think. I added it also has nothing to do with morality. The reply to me was disagreeing, so I used one act act as an example of how immorality has nothing to do with skin color. There is no way yhis is hard to follow or discern. Also murder is objectively wrong. This is not an opinion. It doesnt matter if someone else thinks its right, its objectively always wrong. Them thinking it right doesnt legitimize murder, it is simply the case that they are incorrect.

  • @golDroger88

    @golDroger88

    Ай бұрын

    @@dougmasters4561 I have explained to why your race matters in my first post. Blood (race) is part of identity and identity (in the form of culture but not necessarily) determines what your values are. Now explain to me why murder is objectively wrong, I'm waiting.

  • @robp2728
    @robp2728Ай бұрын

    “I made several racist complaints…” “I’m super light skinded…” Is this the language skill level of a tenured professor? Come on…

  • @dukecity7688
    @dukecity7688Ай бұрын

    The one in power is the person who's telling people to shut up and sit down. She's got all the power and she's exercising it.

  • @ItApproaches
    @ItApproachesАй бұрын

    Things are only "racist" if you choose to see it that way. If you choose to make it about skin color, that's YOU making it about skin color lol. Also it's disheartening that "professors" don't realize that racism doesn't exist. Human is the race, African, Russian, Asian so on are nationalities. Humans have been using the wrong word for a long time but they don' want to correct themselves. Hating Africans would be Nationist or Nationism, but that doesn't roll off the tongue. In order for someone to be racist, you would have to hate someone cause they are a human, but that would be hypocritical.

  • @makokx7063

    @makokx7063

    Ай бұрын

    It's true. As a white person when a black person bumps into me on the street I think "asshole". I'd bet my bottom dollar that they think "racist" though.

  • @bojnebojnebojne
    @bojnebojnebojne18 күн бұрын

    There's no getting away from racism in a country where every single political topic or work domain is permeated by the obsession to talk about race. There is no country on earth more obsessed with talking about race than the United States. I never understood that obsession, to me, it's incredibly narrowminded and stupid. Nobody can help how they are born, neither can they do anything about it. To me people are just people and what they do and how they act defines what i think about them. There are only two kinds of people in the world, those who aim to do good and those who aim to do bad, that's all that matter.

  • @fearmo1852
    @fearmo1852Ай бұрын

    Great conversation!

  • @Gunnberg85
    @Gunnberg85Ай бұрын

    Just started the video. It still gives me pause when I hear some combination of words essentially saying, "Even though I was black, I was still accused of racism." As if to imply that one who is black simply cannot be racist, and that the notion that they were is ridiculous. I've now automatically laid out in my mind how this person views the world and am waiting to see how close I get through this interview. Here goes...

  • @roobs4245

    @roobs4245

    Ай бұрын

    Do you think it is intellectually honest to not only start with a preconceived notion based on little information and no context -- and then knowingly watch just to prove your confirmation bias?

  • @Gunnberg85

    @Gunnberg85

    Ай бұрын

    @@roobs4245 More like intellectual shorthand.

  • @milo8425
    @milo8425Ай бұрын

    College English professor = Derrida indoctrination officer.

  • @devinmillican2873
    @devinmillican2873Ай бұрын

    I think we make the mistake of operating on the basis that our institutions are meritocratic in terms of how they operate, but this isn't true. Almost every single working-class American can attest to the fact that most companies are plagued by politicians and sycophants who game the system (or "play the game") in order to get ahead. It's an unspoken truth in the American workforce, and we all know it. Even those companies and institutions who genuinely try to operate in a meritocratic fashion are often compromised by people in leadership positions who have bad judgment due to a litany of reasons. If I had to put a number on it, I would say that America is maybe 20% meritocratic, and that's me being charitable. It's not the way it's supposed to be, but how many business owners do you think are genuinely committed to upholding American values in their business practices?

  • @Smo1k

    @Smo1k

    Ай бұрын

    I wouldn't say that rewarding on the basis of merit is especially American, but that's a minor quip... There's two principles at work which are completely unrelated to merit: The first is Return of the Prodigal Son, which means that likable fuck-ups get preferential treatment, because their story sticks in our memory while the stable and productive worker is likely forgotten 'cos she's "just there". The other is the Chickling effect, which is that the most visible, open beak gets fed more, so that those who keep themselves smack in the face of management will get more bennies, regardless of whether they actually get anything done.

  • @makokx7063

    @makokx7063

    Ай бұрын

    I'd say that applies to most if not all societies, not just America. It's natural to show favor to people you like and be harsher on people you dislike, even if you are aware of your own biases and try to keep them out of your decision making. However if only 20% of people are being properly judged I'd think society would collapse.

  • @williamrockwell9705

    @williamrockwell9705

    Ай бұрын

    Sure, when you pick and choose what counts as merit you will never find that it is what is driving decisions.

  • @Smo1k

    @Smo1k

    Ай бұрын

    @@williamrockwell9705 The literal meaning of "merit" is Seaworthy. Think "You may talk a big ship, but does it sail?" Our day and time: Does it/he/she get shit done? Is money made? Do kids learn how to multiply?

  • @evalramman7502
    @evalramman7502Ай бұрын

    I liked that older professor.

  • @ScarlettRose7221
    @ScarlettRose7221Ай бұрын

    I’m so sick of this racism/victim mentality. I have great respect for you, Warren. But I’m old and out of patience.

  • @Ephisus
    @EphisusАй бұрын

    "You have a strong point and it means nothing", this is not the language of a thinking person.

  • @williamrockwell9705
    @williamrockwell9705Ай бұрын

    Just imagine what would be going on if we still had a nation.

  • @willhartmann1356
    @willhartmann1356Ай бұрын

    Warren, please make the full conversation available.

  • @CaptZenPetabyte
    @CaptZenPetabyteАй бұрын

    Youre a Master of Socratic questioning ... wel done sir, well done.

  • @GameCookerUSRocks
    @GameCookerUSRocksАй бұрын

    Fear should be a good reason not to go to work too. And still get paid.

  • @mr2981
    @mr2981Ай бұрын

    That was great

  • @claudeyaz
    @claudeyazАй бұрын

    Churchill is interesting because he was completely blackballed and removed, but honestly I find the Irish guy that was his right hand man much more interesting, what was his name something Bracken?

  • @claudeyaz

    @claudeyaz

    Ай бұрын

    And after so he was ended up the prime minister😊...after being ousted

  • @HamHamEggsandHam
    @HamHamEggsandHamАй бұрын

    Would you allow yourself to be treated by a black doctor ? I won't. I'll do whatever is necessary to avoid it.

  • @PeregrinTintenfish

    @PeregrinTintenfish

    Ай бұрын

    Why?

  • @janesmith8050

    @janesmith8050

    Ай бұрын

    This is the definition of a racist comment.

  • @williamrockwell9705

    @williamrockwell9705

    Ай бұрын

    @@PeregrinTintenfish I will answer. It is because we live in a time where an anti-White miasma permeates all sectors of society, no one in their right mind would think that a doctor's decision making would not be influenced by said miasma. Furthermore because the standards are lowered for them.

  • @tiredman4540
    @tiredman4540Ай бұрын

    Wish I could see him, your professor sounds like a jolly fellow.

  • @WILPOLLOCK
    @WILPOLLOCKАй бұрын

    2:34 - what I hear him saying RE: birds of a feather It’s similar to what Carlin said: you don’t need a conspiracy when interests align. I.e. people wanna be around the people like them or at least who think like them. There’s some validity here. As ever, great stuff! Also, yes(!) sit down with Bret Weinstein. Please. That’d be awesome

  • @traypaquette7887
    @traypaquette7887Ай бұрын

    I went to emerson in the 90s and the aughts. I had MANY black professors and half of the classes were critical theory and devoted to diversity, though not at all about diversity of opinion.

  • @Zak6959
    @Zak6959Ай бұрын

    I seen a meme the other day where they are going to run out of things to call racist in about six months.

  • @williamrockwell9705

    @williamrockwell9705

    Ай бұрын

    You people are a huge problem, THEY ARE RAMPING UP TO GENOCIDE US and all you can do is pretend it is just going to go away.

  • @WILPOLLOCK
    @WILPOLLOCKАй бұрын

    TIL Emerson College had NO tenured black professors even in 2018. I grew up in Boston (51 now) and I always viewed Emerson as on Uber liberal school. What a BS well done marketing scam. 😳

  • @miketemple7686
    @miketemple7686Ай бұрын

    When the student becomes the teacher.

  • @EarlHayward
    @EarlHaywardАй бұрын

    He said the liberal professors and management are experimentalists, but I would argue they are instrumentalists… I then recognized that they are virtually synonymous terms and I would be arguing a distinction without a difference; a type of logical fallacy… It then made me realize that most of the social justice hysteria is over the semantics and pragmatics of words while ignoring the reality of the consequences… For instance, both sides are fighting over what is ultimately for or against the conflation of gender and sex (yet, even Scalia opined decades ago that gender is no longer synonymous with sex), but the liberals pull the conservatives into the weeds… Point is, if both sides, but mostly the left, stopped fighting over the semantics and pragmatics, the real issues could be addressed; like no matter what you call people, on average, men are stronger than women, undocumented immigrants have broken the law, and some people will never accept the reality of the authority of government…

  • @dtchouros
    @dtchourosАй бұрын

    The last teacher literally only hurts the student (and the people that have to work with him later) when there is a legitimate reason to fail him.

  • @stirlingmoss4621
    @stirlingmoss4621Ай бұрын

    Selection for any post of job must be provably Objective and nothing to do with subjectivity.

  • @SN-jh3bb
    @SN-jh3bbАй бұрын

    Without understanding what is psychopathy one cannot understand what is those who expound CRT

  • @larrydugan1441
    @larrydugan1441Ай бұрын

    A degree was a means of saying look at me I have achieved something difficult. If there are no standards and the degree is nonsense like so many are, it is less than worthless. Why less than worthless? It creates an expectation in the graduate that has no merit and can only lead to despair. Catering to minorities and incorporating their claims of victim hood into faux achievement is highly destructive. Good luck world.

  • @beatricenilsson4530
    @beatricenilsson4530Ай бұрын

    I found it very interesting that the professor says he is stoic and then continue to proclaim his "feels" for the supposed institutional racism at the college. Is that not a complete 180 on the stoic claims? Maybe I got what he ment wrong though. I will lean to give him a pass because it was a somewhat unclear conversation on where he actually stood in the topic of racism against him.

  • @willmontgomery6221
    @willmontgomery6221Ай бұрын

    Love the video but you really need to work on your audio...the interviews sound like they are recorded in a bathtub. Get some close mics like the Rode system and you'll be all set.

  • @SecretScholars

    @SecretScholars

    Ай бұрын

    Valid point. I’m working on it. We recorded this last night and I just had to work with what I had

  • @mr2981

    @mr2981

    Ай бұрын

    @@SecretScholars I'd rather see this than not see it because it wasn't 'perfect'.

  • @mc1993

    @mc1993

    Ай бұрын

    @@SecretScholars Free simple fix, if you don't own video editing software that has it like Premiere Pro. Adobe Podcast AI enhance has a webpage you can upload your audio track and it will make it sound great, just download replace the original audio track, render and done. It removes everything, and makes you sound top quality.

  • @mc1993

    @mc1993

    Ай бұрын

    @@SecretScholars Why is my simple audio fix advice being hidden? KZread is too much.

  • @viracocha03

    @viracocha03

    Ай бұрын

    @@mc1993 YT is getting horrid for hiding/removing comments. I have had so many "go missing" in the past month or so on all different creator's pages and almost every one of them was polite/helpful or benign.

  • @briandobbin3726
    @briandobbin3726Ай бұрын

    wow - this discussion was a window for me inside modern academia (my experience was 40 years ago) all I can say is what kind of environment is this? So far away

  • @RhumpleOriginal
    @RhumpleOriginalАй бұрын

    " feelings are irrelevant because I dont feel like spending time working through them " * Insert that cilp of the guy screaming 'YES YES! THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. THATS WHY HES THE GOAT' *

  • @JamieZero7
    @JamieZero7Ай бұрын

    Nice man.

  • @maxknuckles13
    @maxknuckles13Ай бұрын

    I'm glad I didn't take the university route.. only went to UMass for the frat parties, when I was in high-school lol

  • @sweetbloom735
    @sweetbloom735Ай бұрын

    Could you discuss financing/donations to the universities and whether that influences the administration's directives? I do understand if this topic is off-limits due to job loss.

  • @susanjacquier5358
    @susanjacquier5358Ай бұрын

    Interesting that in Australia, 'tenured' is not part of the University structure. Apparently, we use contracts of varying time frames. Can anyone here please add their experience in regards to that?

  • @makokx7063

    @makokx7063

    Ай бұрын

    I don't have any experience but the tenure system originally came about so that universities couldn't punish faculty (fire them) for expressing their opinions. A bit of a double-edged sword though.

  • @swanofnutella4734
    @swanofnutella4734Ай бұрын

    We're so stupid, we thing WE won the cold war. XD

  • @reyray7184

    @reyray7184

    Ай бұрын

    We didn't even win WWII or we wouldn't be having the same kinds of problems today that they were having back then.

  • @WinstonSmithGPT
    @WinstonSmithGPTАй бұрын

    The most important issue here is that Americans should not be funding universities.

  • @opinion3742

    @opinion3742

    Ай бұрын

    I believe you believe that. Which is why we have an education system.

  • @WinstonSmithGPT

    @WinstonSmithGPT

    Ай бұрын

    @@opinion3742 You failed.

  • @opinion3742

    @opinion3742

    Ай бұрын

    @@WinstonSmithGPT lol

  • @BakaSleeper
    @BakaSleeperАй бұрын

    denying that racisim exist is racist

  • @williamrockwell9705

    @williamrockwell9705

    Ай бұрын

    There is no such thing as racism, NO ONE HAS TO EXIST SOLEY TO SERVE BLAKS! We have a right to like and dislike who we choose!

  • @willie_the_monkey_king
    @willie_the_monkey_kingАй бұрын

    This was an interesting video however your audio needs to be clear. Had to listen to the video twice to fully understand you and the other professor.

  • @claudeyaz
    @claudeyazАй бұрын

    How many teachers were getting tenure at in 2016 2020? I thought college is cut down on doing that

  • @masterphillips
    @masterphillipsАй бұрын

    If Emerson is racist, why are we footing the bill for forgiving the student loans for that institution? If Emerson is racist, why are we loaning money to their students at all? Just a guess, but if the money started drying up, the demand for racism would too.

  • @_Alfa_Channel
    @_Alfa_ChannelАй бұрын

    Hagakure on the Back Shelf! Hidden by Nothing! Boss!

  • @OldVetNerdSage
    @OldVetNerdSageАй бұрын

    Stoicism is the way

  • @CrummyVCR

    @CrummyVCR

    Ай бұрын

    NOT modern stoicism though. That is bordering on masochistic nihilism. It's very okay to feel, to process, to be affected by, etc. But do so with TEMPERAMENT and some grace.

  • @OldVetNerdSage

    @OldVetNerdSage

    Ай бұрын

    @@CrummyVCR 100%! I just picked up a copy of Meditations and am looking forward to it.

  • @ChrisRubeo
    @ChrisRubeoАй бұрын

    Is this just a clip of your podcast?

  • @TheTomryan123
    @TheTomryan123Ай бұрын

    Pretty sure that professor knows nothing about statistics.

  • @nancybaumgartner6774
    @nancybaumgartner6774Ай бұрын

    In the end , it’s the tradesmen we really need in society , not another windbag academic . Society exists because of tradesmen, not whiny , spoiled academics .

  • @Dukkha-Bhavana
    @Dukkha-BhavanaАй бұрын

    !!!! When was this recorded? I might've guessed that your previous employers saw this before you released it...before they fired you. [EDIT: but they took back the computer & data, so maybe not.]

  • @jacobgray676
    @jacobgray676Ай бұрын

    Any update on a daily wire show?

  • @npcimknot958
    @npcimknot958Ай бұрын

    3:44 whats interesting tho.. is the problem when u only point at problems offer 0 solutions / compromises etc.. when things can’t be critiqued no matter how much u dislike it.. that’s a bad sign.. People had to point out, putting people in ovens is.. bad…. Doing experiments on people is bad.. and those who did t agree went to war.. but those in those countires were the vast majority agreed were persecuted..

  • @out_spocken
    @out_spockenАй бұрын

    It's interesting that your professor never explained why it was he wasn't offered tenure. Surely he should have been able to explain what it was that stopped him getting it...instead defaulting to his skin colour - an argument many people make to cover up other issues they don't wish to accept are faults of themselves. Bit ironic. Especially when he says he isn't inherently 'black'.

  • @illhaveanother8173
    @illhaveanother8173Ай бұрын

    Isn't tenure a dying concept anyway? It appears basically in no other careers and it's not clear what it actually add to education either.

  • @XeroWon
    @XeroWonАй бұрын

    Never quite understand the dismissal of “trades workers” as potential powerful or influential people. Society itself would cease to function without them; pretty sure college doesn’t produce power, food, or anything these days.

  • @its2sum
    @its2sumАй бұрын

    ♠️✌🏽

  • @StephenSavage-dd7dw
    @StephenSavage-dd7dwАй бұрын

    Wow It’s that obvious in the education sector ? No wonder the discord and discourse has got so toxic, and so quickly. Remember when we had standards? Remember when the country functioned correctly? When we could rely on the world to make some sort of sense? DEI Dissent Ever Increasing

  • @AbzScotland
    @AbzScotlandАй бұрын

  • @tanyam3090
    @tanyam3090Ай бұрын

    Please don’t forget to like Warrens videos! And of course subscribe. Love to see his conversations.

  • @ReactionaryRighty-nt6hq
    @ReactionaryRighty-nt6hqАй бұрын

    How you think has everything to do with skin color when you think that skin color makes people inferior the way Charles Murray does.

  • @JohnMichaelBurns
    @JohnMichaelBurnsАй бұрын

    Do some street epistemology, bilboard chris type stuff. Grab a camera and go find some random pedestrians to challenge to think about stuff. If you want another fluke viral video, you'll find it by interacting with totally random people and finding out what they think and how they think. You won't find it having comfy chats with rational, reasonable people.

  • @freesk8
    @freesk8Ай бұрын

    Interesting! Thanks. Ideas are race-blind. Members of any race can have any idea. Duh.

  • @lloydgush
    @lloydgushАй бұрын

    Dude's a stoic in economics among marxists? Typical.

  • @nobodycares9579
    @nobodycares9579Ай бұрын

    Dude you look like a persona character.