I remember the TV commercials for the Amnesty. The part that stuck in my head was the announcer saying "Even your mother-in-law's mortar."

@keithhamlett8381

6 жыл бұрын

To my knowledge posters were pasted in post offices as well.

@MrPir84free

6 жыл бұрын

Nowadays, I personally only visit the post office a few times a year at best. On April 15 or so, to file my taxes.. Sometimes in December to send out Christmas presents, and maybe a trip a year or so to buy stamps..

@jason127x99

6 жыл бұрын

I love to see them.

@Lowlandlord

4 жыл бұрын

You know, just as he was talking about bringing machine guns back from WW2 I thought about the mortar my grandfather brought back. Mind you we're Canadian and he was in the Canadian or British Army in the war, so that was never legal and there was no amnesty. My Dad used all the shells by the '70s though, probably on the world's largest game preserve now that I think about it.

@FUZYsquatch

4 жыл бұрын

Braden Scott Rest in Peace

Then In 1986, we got screwed concerning machine guns!

@kimdearrington258

3 жыл бұрын

That's the understatement of the century, make that the last three centuries.

@LeBoomStudios

3 жыл бұрын

ALL gun laws, including the NFA, are unconstitutional.

Back in 2010 an older gentleman came into the store and showed me a Ithaca Auto & Burglar 20ga along with original leather holster. It was passed down in the family and he was the current owner. I started to explain to him that it was a NFA item, when he said it was legal cause he had papers. He then pulled out a 68 amnesty form that he had sent in. Only time I ever saw amnesty papers and it was also a cool gun as well.

This is how my father magically "found" a Thompson in the attic. Unfortunately he sold it when he was transferred overseas.

@ericmyrs

4 жыл бұрын

I shit you not, when we sold my grandfathers house, we found a Sten Gun in his dresser. We didn't even know he was part of the home front. I cannot overstate how illegal it is to own machine pistols in Norway.

@huntertice3883

4 жыл бұрын

@@ericmyrs bruh

@savedemperor8024

4 жыл бұрын

@@ericmyrs if i were you i would hide that thing and wait for better times to come

@alexandersimcox2079

4 жыл бұрын

@@ericmyrs seems like someone has something to bury in their back yard

@ericmyrs

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexandersimcox2079 Nah, that would be incredibly illegal. We gave it to the home front museum. They were very happy to take it off our hands.

That is an amazing story. A guy stole a machine gun and it got legally registered by a person who bought it.

"Register" and "Track" those two words send cold chills up My spine.

@kritizismmusics9737

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly feels safer to go illegal

@cymond

Жыл бұрын

Registered in 1968, still hasn't been confiscated as of 2022 I don't like it, either, but the Hughes amendment succeeded where the rest of gun control failed: it made these guns so precious that nobody uses them for anything criminal, or even slightly risky.

Shame that the government today would 1) Never do an Amnesty for guns 2) Never actually be totally faithful for the amnesty 3) Never cover so much by an amnesty

@cymond

Жыл бұрын

2023 would love a word with you But we're not sure yet if they will be "totally faithful" or not. It's also funny because lots of people didn't trust that they would act in good faith back them, either, yet they did

@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932

6 ай бұрын

Unless your name is Hunter Biden

Repeal the NFA and the Hughes Amendment!

@sparkplug1018

6 жыл бұрын

Id support that for sure, but I know it won't happen, sadly.

@mcnugnug101

2 жыл бұрын

Just need to have every gun owner not comply with the nfa Ala what states are doing with weed.

@Nitro1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@sparkplug1018 it won’t if no one fights to repeal it

@sparkplug1018

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nitro1000 Go for it, willing to bet over the last 87 years though, this isn’t an original idea.

@Nitro1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@sparkplug1018 it isn’t original but as I have seen politicians count on apathy setting in

What bothers me is that the people who have spent $20,000-$30,000 on a machine gun as an “investment” will oppose anything that would devalue that. Such as the restoration of our rights. I saw one video of a guy that had spent in the $25,000 range that said he had no intention of shooting it and knew so little about it that he thought something was wrong because he couldn’t engage the safety while the hammer was forward.

@weswest3031

7 ай бұрын

There is that group of people and MANY in the other that will take freedom over profit. You can never be sure of anything in an artificial market. Kinda like stocks

Will never be the same today, it would be a trap.

@rogerjohnson8707

4 жыл бұрын

James Comey said he would never lie about a thing like that.

Interesting, I recently watched an episode of Alaskan State Troopers wherein a chap was stopped, declared he was a felon and had a legal weapon in his car and after the trooper ran the checks, allowed to continue on his way. They infuriatingly never explained why or how he was legal and I suppose this could be the reason.

@williamprince1114

6 жыл бұрын

B. Hagedash Judges will often set aside the firearm prohibition if the felon petitions the court and can show reason(s) why they should be allowed to own a firearm.

@JerryEricsson

6 жыл бұрын

There is a way to have your right to own a firearm restored. A bit of paperwork and a review by the powers that be, but it is not unusual for a fellow who, say had some bad checks when he was a young man and was charged and convicted with a felony, many years later asking for and receiving relief from that ban so he can hunt, or perhaps defend himself and his family, especially if he has a clean record for say 20 years or so.

@brasstard7.627

6 жыл бұрын

B. Hagedash state law varies. Some states you never get your right back. Others you need toget a pardon and other states give you your rights back automatically after a certain amount of time. I believe Alaska let felons own guns because of the threat of bears. Here in New Mexico you got to wait 10 years and you can't ask for a pardon anymore

@coyote9594

6 жыл бұрын

B. Hagedash felons are allowed to own "antuiqe firearms". These are any gun manufactured before 1898 or replicas of gun as long as its a true replica of a gun manufactured before 1898 that doesn't use centerfire, rim fire, fixed cartridges. This means means felons can own flintlock matchlock, or percussion cap black powder rifles and pistols legally.

@brasstard7.627

6 жыл бұрын

Travis Seger not in New Mexico. if you are a felon you can't have any projectile weapons that use gunpowder. Not even a matchlock

They had to have an amnesty due to the 5th Amendment issues with the National Firearms Act of 1934 that where found in Haynes v. US . The NFA was amended and rolled up as second title(Firearms Act) of the Gun Control Act of 1968, along with the provision for amnesties.

Very interesting that the machine gun registration form was from the "Department of the Treasury, Internal Revenue Service". Addressed to the director; Alcohol & Tobacco TAX Division.

G. Gordon Liddy (of Watergate fame) said, "I'm a convicted felon so I can't own any firearms but my wife has 27 of them".

@wes11bravo

4 жыл бұрын

"...which she keeps on my side of the bedroom." I love that quote.

@trippbloodworth4217

4 жыл бұрын

No, or he would violate parole and be back in jail where he belonged. They cannot be in the house or in proximity of the felon unless they are black powder single action.

@trippbloodworth4217

4 жыл бұрын

He was lying like he always does.

@nathanielrittenhouse9965

3 жыл бұрын

@@trippbloodworth4217 nope. As long as the felon isn't in position and a legal gun owner lives in the home there can be as many as the legal gun owner wants to own, although they have to be locked in a safe or cabinet that the felon can't access. I have been in a probation meeting where this exact question was asked and answered.

@__Ryan_

3 жыл бұрын

@@trippbloodworth4217 depends what state your in

We need another amnesty. Permanent this time

@jekkfractal5164

4 жыл бұрын

and perpetual

@Rocky1765

3 жыл бұрын

Never happen. Way too many single moms raising school shooters. They will never re-instate blanket machine gun purchases.

@Alex462047

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not for gun control, particularly, I don't have that much trust in government. But I am curious as to your reasons why you want permanent and perpetual amnesty, as one bloke put it, with the destruction of records. I'd be perfectly happy for all this to happen, except for our "beloved" mass-shooters who come out of nowhere and the mass chaos that society now descends into at the first whiff of injustice. You do not give children weapons to play with. Yet with these sensitivities to injustice combined with a violent temper (tantrums), there are altogether too many fully-grown children in the system. And, you have to admit, the consequences of failed legislation regarding firearms are catastrophic (grievous injury and violent death). Frankly, you may be completely trustworthy, but there are plenty out and about who are not, and firearms are a readily accessible form of mass destruction in the wrong hands. Well, you may say, concealed carry, lethal self-defense, we'll shoot these buggers before they can do any harm. That's a legitimate option, essential in remote areas without infrastructure. It's also an incredibly dangerous one, especially in built-up areas, with a high possibility of collateral damage (heightened by the involvement of inexperienced or incompetent shooters [for the record, I regard most police to be incompetent shooters, but that's a story for another day]). Some form of restriction has to exist, particularly in cities. It's merely the form that it takes we can argue over until the cows come home.

@johnrice1943

3 жыл бұрын

All gun laws are unconstitutional.

@topicalturtle8685

3 жыл бұрын

Do you mean another machine gun amnesty? Or just an amnesty on all guns altogether, because I live in the UK and I can confirm that the second one is possibly one of the worst, and most idiotic things you can do to a country

That was definitely quite an amnesty, if even felons were allowed to keep them. Thankfully the ATF kept their word and didn't go after the people who had them. Interesting story. Great video as always. Thank you

That is probably the best story of the 1968 law, love it those felons are still laughing about that!

Unintended Consequences is a must read for any gun owner.

@USNVA11

6 жыл бұрын

An excellent book written shortly after Ruby Ridge and Waco. I purchased it at a gun show when it was first published and could not set it down until I was finished with the book. It's a long read but thoroughly enlightening to the consequences of a federal government unrestrained. 😉

@anthonya532

6 жыл бұрын

KILLARY OWNS LIKE 6 AND AN UZI

@therideneverends1697

6 жыл бұрын

By what auther? I look up the book and I see about 20 different books with the title

@USNVA11

6 жыл бұрын

Andre Krumins - The Author is John Ross. The book is currently out of print but you can get new and used copies at Amazon. It is an excellent, must read for any firearms enthusiast and 2nd Amendment supporter. Enjoy ! 😉

@jonross377

5 жыл бұрын

@@USNVA11 Dang thats my name!!!!]

Repeal the NFA and FOPA!

@aevangel1

5 жыл бұрын

No need to repeal the whole FOPA, it does much more good than not. Only need to repeal the Hughes Amendment.

@originalscottfree

5 жыл бұрын

@@aevangel1 Too much good? So when exactly has a felon paid his/her debt to society? You are aware they can't even buy bullet proof back packs for their children legally. BTW they simple answer is never ever unless they want to continue to pay ($1500-2500 usually)... This is NOT what the founding fathers had in mind when they said "shall not be infringed". Lastly the Hughes amendment only covers manufacturing new machine guns.... IMHO the entire NFA, GOPA and the Hugues amendment is unconstitutional and needs to be chucked out the window, this won't happen as is generates too much revenue for the very select few.

@auxchar

4 жыл бұрын

If you think the FOPA protects you, try traveling through New York with a non-SafeAct compliant firearm. They got their end of the compromise, and we got screwed out of ours.

@Lowlandlord

4 жыл бұрын

No. There, now that's settled.

@evanwiltse6127

4 жыл бұрын

originalscottfree around 82% of people released from prison are arrested again in 3 years so until the jail system actually rehabilitates inmates, giving convicted felons firearms is probably not a good idea. Also having to need bullet proof backpacks for children is fucked.

If we don't hold back the gun banners then one day we will be talking about Amnesty for simi-autos we had to your grandchildren. Really cool video.

@erg0centric

5 жыл бұрын

Hold up the banners!

What they should've done was do one in '68 then in '70 do another, after word got around that it was a legit amnesty. Might'be gotten more registrations.

I love how you stick on topic and analise history for what it is! Love this channel!

Governments have institutional memory. The end goal of practical disarmament of full auto in civilian hands has been achieved, even if it took 50 years. The government has as many machine guns as it wants, and always will. A few civilians with $20,000 or $30,000 to spend have machine guns. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

The question I have always had is what is the legality of repairs on a NFA registered machine gun. Like if the auto sear in a registered m-16 wore out or broke would you be allowed to replace the auto sear in a registered machine gun or would that be considered “manufacturing a machine gun”? What about a registered drop-in auto sear? What if that wears out/breaks can you “repair” that? What about once you have done enough repairs/replace enough parts very little of the original gun remains? Is it a new gun? What if the part where the SN / markings on the gun that are listed on the NFA paperwork needs to be repairs or replaced? Then what? Are you allowed to re-engrave the number? I mean I don’t see this really being an issue with let’s say a lower receiver but it could happen. But for a drop in auto sear? For sure! These parts were not designed to last forever and all machines need to be repaired or replaced eventually!

Ian you have just opened my mind to a new subject never even knew that it existed. Thanks for this episode and now i know something that i bet my gun dad won't know about. YOU DA MAN

My grand father was in the army in ww2, he brought home 2 Japanese rifles and an officers sword and a very battered Garand. He fought in the Pacific, I remember him telling me about there being a huge pile of weapons after some battle. They were going to be destroyed, I guess he sorted through and got what he wanted. Edit Just remember how the pile of weapons was destroyed, they drove tanks and other tacked vehicles over the pile, and white phosphorus was thrown on it

Fascinating. Not that I own any illegal items, but if I were living back then when this came about, I'd be one of the people that didn't trust it. Government overreach is too much of a concern for me not to be wary of anything it does.

@Rayder2341

6 жыл бұрын

The government is meant to serve the people, not the other way around. The government is supposed to fear the wrath of the citizenry, not the other way around.

@CommodoreFan64

6 жыл бұрын

Marc West Yeah that's the way it's suppose to be, but sadly a lot of the time it's not, and with all the evil stuff our gov. has admitted & not admitted to doing over years like MK Ultra, lies about 9/11(debatable, & I'll leave it at that), NSA Surveillance, FEMA camps, high amounts of fluoride, and lead in our water public supplies, etc.. It's no wonder a lot of people don't trust the gov, and I say with good reason.

@therideneverends1697

6 жыл бұрын

Commodorefan64 I'm all for distrusting the government but the fluoride thing is ridiculous it is absolutely harmless to the human body

@beliasphyre3497

6 жыл бұрын

I'm not worried about high fluoride levels; I already am a gay frog. In shadilay, my dudes.

@phillippatryndal4255

6 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately too many people in the US have the view that DESTRUCTION is the answer to all problems, including of civilization itself. Now we have Trump in power, and are hoping he doesn't push the button...

This one was neato. I was aware that US had an amnesty at some point, we feathered over it in school during trivia days, but wasn't quite so in depth, least of all with specific guns, so that's cool.

@sobasicallyimbillcooper4543

5 жыл бұрын

School?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and historical firearms. Love your vids bro.

We need to fight back, starting with the Hughes amendment, and going all the way to repealing the NFA. If we want this union to persist, we will remove it from our everyday lives.

@mohammedcohen

4 жыл бұрын

...Mr Hughes passed away about a year or so ago...

This is such an awesome, and informative video. Ty forgotten weapons.

Could you imagine the guy who registered the M60 debating in his head if it was legitimate or not then finally getting there & have the person say "yep your good" no questions asked.

OMG, Gun Jesus shout out to Unintended Consequences! One of my favorite books ever, glad to hear you've read it. Should be required reading for every American.

"He was rewarded for that by.. well.. um.. having his gun registered." Ian, we have very different view points when it comes to what is considered a reward. lol.

@coaxill4059

4 жыл бұрын

There only potential downside to having it registered would be if you specifically wanted to use this gun to commit a crime. Otherwise, having it registered means you can bring it out to the range or even carry it depending on the state.

@jakegarrett8109

4 жыл бұрын

Phenian Oliver you have to ask permission from the crown every time you travel across state borders with it too (it’s not a free country, you can’t just go anywhere you please without advanced permission, duh!). It also dictates where you can live as you pointed out, and your homes door will be the first to be kicked in during confiscation (we’ll see how Canada goes, I doubt they get treated as poorly as the US will, just see the illegal confiscations during Katrina where even elderly grandmas were injured).

we want machine guns!!!

@shawnr771

6 жыл бұрын

Ditzy Lemmon Why? If SHTF or a foreign country invades there will be plenty of them around. Like a video game keep upgrading to better weapons. Kick a box get a new weapon and ammo.

@KitsuneRogue

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, you "want" them, but do you "need" them? I'm perfectly happy with my bolt actions and semi-auto repeaters.

@strilight

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, you "want" semi-autos, but do you "need" them? Yes, you "want" rifles with more than 10 rounds, but do you "need" them? Yes, you "want" smokeless powder firearms, but do you "need" them? Stop being a fudd.

@illidur

6 жыл бұрын

LMAO lets add some more. Yes, you "want" 3 meals, but do you "need" 3 meals? Yes, you "want" freedom, but do you "need" freedom?

@crazykirsch

6 жыл бұрын

How is eating equivalent to machine guns? I'm a hunter and gun owner, but I've never been able to understand the logic behind the "I WURNT MAH MUCHEEN GUNZ" crowd. I'm sure it's a fun range toy and all that, but what practical purpose does it serve other than giving cleetus a false sense of security thinking it somehow makes him able to take on the world if SHTF.

"I've got a whole pile of illegal guns--"

Many years ago in the UK we had a change to the law ,a ban was placed on all shotguns having a magazine capacity above two cartridges. All owners had to have their auto and pump shotguns modified and registered (at their own cost) .Up to that point the number of autos and pumps was not known because records were not kept as to the type of shotgun . After the change in the law anyone with gun that was not resistard could not legally own or transfer that gun . The guns still exist, but by definition ,only in the hands of criminals .

Always interesting and informative. Thanks Ian.

You are amazing! Very interesting and informative as usual

Loving that background, thanks for the fun info.

great info

@buncer

2 жыл бұрын

@Mrgunsngear Channel I’m a fan of you, you’re a fan of him, I’m a fan of him.

Anyone who hasn't read Unintended Consequences, read it! Great read and it will give you a great understanding of the gun culture from 1934 up until the mid 90s.

Unintended Consequences, a must read for every gun owner!

Great information. Let's see some more general gun history videos.

ATF holds another amnesty.. ATF: more “machine guns” are being amnesty registered then made... hmm. People: ;-)

@antcri730

3 жыл бұрын

Do you mean "than " made or "then" made? In this context the meaning is completely different depending on which word you use. "Then made" would mean registering guns and building them afterwards, "Than made" would mean registering guns that do not exist.

Wow Ian, great moves. Keep it up!

Cool video! Sweden have had some gun amnesties (only to leave in guns, not able to keep them but no questions asked) and I think the largest gun turned in was an old Bofors 40 mm AA gun, but I've heard also stories about mortars and howitzers. Cheers!

The 1968 registry was designed to get the automatics registered so the government had an idea of what was out there. It also was a way to track the ownership of the gun. It was still a government gun grab by limiting ownership.

My next door neighbor brought an M4 home from desert storm. I offered him 5k for it, he refused. He died the following year. His wife tried to sell it. It was confiscated later.

@lastdayonearth8381

3 жыл бұрын

I'm Pretty Sure The M4 Carbine Was Adopted After The Persian Gulf War. So Your Either Talking About The M16A2 Or The Scar 15.

@rogainegaming6924

2 жыл бұрын

@Last Day On Earth the m4 was adopted in 1987. Don't spout off facts you don't know are true especially if it could be easily verified, and quit capitalizing every word in the sentence. foo

Damn I love these videos... very informative. Any thoughts on doing videos on the ‘assault pistols’ of 80s like a Tec-9, AP9 or Sites Spectra Falcon type of firearms ?

@Wolf_Larsen

6 жыл бұрын

Joey P you know, as a gun lover, I can't say I'm sad that they're gone, hunks of trash that they were.

There was still a poster for the Amnesty on the wall of the Notre Dame post office as late as 1977. There was no Amnesty for bump stocks, for fear that the registry would have to be opened. The purpose of the law is not to regularize posession, but to create potential criminal prosecution.

Awsome video. Very informative. Thanks and keep it up.

I love all the videos about the guns I like or the interesting ones in operation and function but this is by far the most informative one for me. I knew about the GCA68 but not this! If I had a TARDIS I would filling up in 1933 making a stop in Germany in 45 with a final stop back here in 68 before the return, I think I would stick around for a while to see the bands though.

I find it somewhat bewildering the amount of gun enthusiasts that don't understand the 1986 firearms act. I emailed the ATF about buying a wwii era M2 carbine conversion parts kit, which were prevalent at one time. The agent, or whoever, was a super nice guy. He explained that this particular question comes up A LOT. He explained: it's not that the M1 carbine or the M2 parts kit was made before 1986. Any machine gun or machine gun parts kit has to be registered before 1986. You can't transfer it or own it unless it was registered before 1986. That's why NFA guns are so rare and expensive. Since the 1968 amnesty there are only a finite number of legal guns out there. And by the way, he said it was perfectly legal for me to own a M2 parts kit......it's not legal to install them.

Australia adopted registration of firearms and then had the round up in 1996. Its only a matter of time before we have the next round up. Love you work Ian, Keep it up.

Being a non-American I didn't know anything about the amnesty. Very interesting to hear the history.

ANYWAYS, this is going up for auction. Fantastic, honestly. Cheers, fellow Arizonan

So basically: it was 100% legit. Awesome.

@Rayder2341

6 жыл бұрын

Except that all gun control infringes our constitutional rights so from that perspective nothing is legit.

@chunglii8

6 жыл бұрын

cry more

@bradenculver7457

6 жыл бұрын

Marc West That's not true at all. The Bill of Rights in it's original form actually only limited Congress from making laws depriving you of your rights. So states have the right to do so entirely, with exception to some amendments (such as the first) being retroactively applied by supreme court decisions to be in effect on states as well due to aspects of the fourteenth amendment. On addition, the 2nd amendment can be debated in it's level of control of firearms. I don't believe the founding fathers ever intended to see citizens walking around with fucking m16's or a light machine gun, and with certain views of the Constitution it can be implied that the right to keep and bear arms isn't infringed if only a subset of guns are banned. Finally, without an actual reason nobody should be able to get a machine gun at all. Rifle? Ok, maybe you're going hunting. Handgun? Self defense is important. Shotgun? Self defense, hunting. Even an AR I think may be justifiable. Fully automatic assault rifle? Fuck no, you're average person doesn't need to be walking around with that shit. The only time you should be able to use that is with a license or some sort of safety net. It's common sense. I understand the view that you shouldn't infringe on our rights, but this isn't like free speech. Guns can be used to kill people, and certain people and certain firearms are just completely unnecessary without an actual reason. Even if you just want to shoot one for fun, I can understand but that should probably be done in a safe environment. Gun control makes sense. Gun control does not directly violate any rights. Elimination of guns is stupid, but gun control is perfectly valid. Edit: should have done my due diligence, second amendment has been deemed to apply to states with this court case en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._City_of_Chicago Other points on gun control and why it's legal still stand, how ever poorly worded they may be

@bradenculver7457

6 жыл бұрын

The Master's Tools The Master's Tools My point was that the original intention was to limit the national govt only, but then later applied to states using the 14th amendment. Read this info.legalzoom.com/meant-selective-incorporation-20152.html. The application of the Bill of Rights to states is on a case by case basis, with the 14th amendment being used in most as the justification. While what I said was technically true, I didn't read up on whether any cases applied to the 2nd amendment, which I should have, and here is one I found with a quick Google. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._City_of_Chicago. So the 2nd amendment does apply to states, along with other parts of the Bill of Rights due to selective incorporation, however that means they can be overturned as well by later courts. My other points about the uncertainty of the 2nd amendment (in defense of gun control) still stand without that point however. I do know what I'm talking about, although I am by no means an expert on Constitutional law and am merely using things I've learned from both my schooling and personal research, someone with a legitimate understanding can feel free to absolutely tear me apart if they wish. And I don't understand your point on the founding fathers. The document is a living document able to be amended because the founding fathers could not predict the future. They wouldn't know people would be walking around with guns capable of firing 30 rounds in a matter of seconds. If they could, they would have been able to legislate all of that shit beforehand based on their own beliefs. That's why I brought it up. They would have never intended the second amendment to be used to defend owning a fully automatic gun for personal use, who would? But, if they are interpreting the document, then it is not living. Living refers to the addition of amendments. Interpretation is a different matter. I really don't understand what the point of mentioning that was, as it wasn't something I ever argued against. Your points about the 2nd amendment are valid, I didn't do my due research, but I really don't understand why you brought up everything else you did. I'm not against guns in any way, I think that they are perfectly valid tools for certain scenarios, but you do not have the right to own certain firearms no matter what someone has told you the Constitution says. It just doesn't say that.

@redfernsoljah

6 жыл бұрын

r h as to also think that our founding fathers at the time could not foresee the evolution of arms to the point they are today when in fact they even put into writing that allow citizens to own warships the pinnacle of technology and arms at the time. As well as arms in production that where in no better terms the m16 of the times. To think they even thought one could own a cannon, if you are not in the mind to understand the destruction that a cannon could provide and the only purpose of a cannon is destruction, or motars or any such arm of the time. Not to mention our founding fathers had lived through a time of changes in arm technology from repeating arms predations 1606 and the founding of the colonies. There are many articles and history about arms one should look into these are just a broad example. So to say that the second amendment does not apply to M16s or belt fed weapons is lack of history, arms development, technology at the time, intent of the Bill framers (IE the Federalist Papers), and ignorance. I love how people use feelings as a way to justify what they think is right or not cause of technology based off of taking, injuring, and making people mostly. One needs to not only look at the argument here but apply those thought standards to the first amendment as it only dealt with speech and writing by paper. Not printing, computer, television, recording, radio, so on.. Ridiculous and ignorant. As well as yes states have the right to come up with laws but when dealing with the bill of rights you are again wrong here. You can add to but not take away. Many states when accepting statehood ratified there own constitutions to follow the bill of rights. Not to mention just because something is illegal or legal in a state doesn't mean that federally you are breaking the law or not.

3 old friends in view: AR15/M16, M60, and (I think) M14. I was always assigned the first, sometimes in the M203 variant, was responsible for the 2nd, either for a jeep with pintle mount in an Air Cav squadron or a pc when I was in Germany, and used the 3rd when I was part of a rifle squad for our unit's funeral team rotation during the last part of 'Nam (I think that was my platoon sgt's attempt to get me to work a little harder on my appearance, turned out to be good for a lot of extended tdy time).

Thank you, again stuff i had no clue on, i knew of the 68 amnesty but never to this detail. again, please keep pushing ahead. happy holloween

Now I'm just imagining a bunch of WW2 veteran dads pulling the childhood classic "look mom! I didn't steal that candy I wanted I just found one!" But with a duffel bag of machine guns they smuggled out of Germany in their laundry lol

Fantastic, thanks for sharing your knowledge. When can we expect to see this chanel on Vidme?

Great video... I'd just love to own this really cool example of The Vitanam era M16A1... Very interesting story behind it... An a awsome collectors piece....

Times were clearly different back then,now a days when they want you to register guns it absolutely means an eventual CONFISCATION

@seanbeadles7421

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the start of modern gun control, Reagan..

Interesting stuff Ian!

Question: could someone have walked through their local military armory, recorded all the serial numbers, submitted them to the registry and then used the force of law (sheriffs/police) to demand the armory hand over the citizens new property?

@johnleyva4619

4 жыл бұрын

Probably not since they were probably already registered

@Alex462047

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't think so. My take is that the AR-15 Ian was handling during this presentation had its original numbers ground off because it was left-handed from the arsenal. You wouldn't dare present an army arsenal registered weapon to a civilian amnesty, they'd likely seize it as army property and return it to the arsenal. With numbers ground off they'd have to give it the benefit of doubt under the amnesty conditions. Other than that, I couldn't imagine them registering under amnesty a bunch of weapons of which you only had the serial numbers. You'd actually have to be in physical possession of the weapon.

@antcri730

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alex462047 That would be Armory not arsenal, an Arsenal is where guns are built, an armory is where they are stored.

@Alex462047

3 жыл бұрын

@@antcri730 Quite likely. I think you got my drift anyway.

Really good commentary.

Yeah if they did another machine gun amnesty like a 1968 there would space so many AR lowers being registered with that third hole drilled

I have a pair of Thompson's that my Grand dad bought in 1928. My dad registered them In 1968. So now I have them and I still have the receipts from 1928 where my Grand dad bought them.

Very interesting! Never heard of this before.

I love those old school triangle handguards lol

There's only one reason they want to know who has what, and it's not for safety.

3:48 "This gun ought to be a giant walking felony"..... lol :D

Very good information.

I've held that m16, at a pawn shop in Arkansas with a vietcong captured AK, both amnesty rifles taken back by the same soldier and sold off

Good stuff. Somehow today if another amnesty occurred it would be different, I suspect.

I'd love to see the look on a Gun grabber's face when they learn of this while trying to confiscate a full auto from a convicted felon.

Great info

It's funny that you mentioned the veteran stealing an M-16. My uncle did the same thing after he came back from Vietnam, he gave it to my dad and then my dad sold it. I still have one of the magazines for it.

They need another amnesty ASAP! It’s sad but Veterans are dying off and leaving behind unregistered history. It’s sad to see history and people’s war trophies destroyed. It hurts inside knowing this happens...

@stevenbaker470

6 жыл бұрын

Airsoftplayer555 I actually came across that issue. I did pest control and was inspecting an attic for an estate sale. I found just laying in the insulation 1. M1 garand, 1 m1 carbine, 2.m1911's 1 kar98 mauser. 1. Mp40 and a Thompson m1921. All loaded. Contacted the deceased owners son per company policy. The two sub machine guns were not destroyed albeit never properly registered. Instead given to a museum. The son told me I could have the rest but I could not take them. So he sold them. Oh well hindsight is 20/20

I qualified and carried a M16A1 just like that one... while serving in the army... 12B 9th Engineer Battalion

@stefanmolnapor910

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for serving

Can you imagine finding an mg42 in your grandparents attic.

Good lord! An AR on the channel! Say, did anyone else see a pig fly by their window? Very interesting vid Ian. I'm pretty poorly read up on US gun laws etc, so hearing about them like this is great! Keep it up!

@garethfairclough8715

6 жыл бұрын

I know. I wasn't quite being 100% serious with those first two sentences! :)

@spretcher

6 жыл бұрын

It must've been that trip, with all the Mosins', to Finland this summer...

@mysss29

6 жыл бұрын

More than once. ;)

@terrencewrigley8860

6 жыл бұрын

Gareth Fairclough it fits the forgotten weapons thing well. If u see an m16 now days with a fun switch and ground off markings you can forget about it ever becoming legal.

@keayrhyasen3071

6 жыл бұрын

not to mention the M-60 sitting up in the rack behind his head. lol. brings me back to my SP days in the AF back in the 80's... although, none of our M-16s had the forward assist. makes me really wonder how old our 16's from viet nam really were if this guy stole an FA-16 in '68 : /

Hey Ian, how do Amnesty registered weapons transfer? Do they transfer on a normal Form 4 like any FA NFA registered weapon?

I had always wondered about this--especially the bit about full auto guns in US government service winding up in private hands without ever being surplussed. Interesting that a gun could actually be stolen and yet the amnesty would cover the theft.

Thanks for explaining all that, I'd otherwise probably never have known anything about it.

It's too bad registration couldn't be used like this in Canada. They've used it multiple times to take people's firearms.

@jakegarrett8109

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, this comment aged very well indeed...

How exactly does the amnesty work when it comes to transferring the firearm? Does the amnesty carry over with the gun?

I sort of heard what Ian was saying, while ALL THE TIME I'm thinking - early M16...lovely.

Most Interesting !! Thanks for that

Great history lesson. Thank you

Imagine an amnesty to register your bible, newspaper or a book. I really want to know how that would work, or any other item on the Bill of Rights.

@Zane-It

3 жыл бұрын

The same way it worked with guns

@notyou1877

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zane-It And you would actually register your book?

From what I understand in the State of Ohio, if you have been convicted of any felony, served your time and probation time without ANY issues and maintained a clean record there are several attorney's out there who will file the needed paperwork so as to regain ones voting rights as well as regaining the right to own a firearm. You might not qualify for a Class 3 weapon but you can legally obtain and own any other regular firearm. I knew of individuals who filed a bunch of Form 1's for machine gun tubes for STens and Port Said MG's. That $200 investment today can be worth up to 2-4 thousand USD for a registered tube. Beats the stock market game by a long shot! As good as investing in a bunch of the Polish Side folder AK' parts kits 17 years ago at $75 a crack. Today they can draw up to $550 each kit since they have the original short barrel. Yes it detracts from the section 992 parts requirements but those individuals with a C3/SOT7 love 'em. Again not bad for a small investment. Keep up the great work on these videos!

How much do you want for it or are you going to have some kind of auction and if so when where and how can someone get a hold of you?

Fascinating! And politically relevant! ;>_> (But, admirably, while remaining objective and informative, not biased. Great job!)

please let us know the name of the artist who performed the music on your intro. she ROCKS! thanks...

Love the show, Ian is the man, I can't help but woundering what he did as a job , before one of the top 3 KZread shows, peroid.

@peepsbates

Жыл бұрын

I think he was a bartender before he became a historian.

Has there been any case of the government actually seizing guns due to change of legislation in the US? I assume there was some of machine guns that were not registered in 1968, but apart from that, has there been any event that justifies the fear of weapons seizures? Please correct me if mistaken, but even the much maligned AWB only affected newly produced or imported weapons and magazines?

@StromBugSlayer

6 жыл бұрын

Joel Müller Very good point, which means you will take much flak for it....

@therideneverends1697

6 жыл бұрын

Joel Müller the fear of mostly comes from what anti-gun politicians *say* they want to do and not any event that this happened in recent history. You have to remember in the US lots of people own lots of guns and if certain styles of guns were declared illegal overnight people would be sitting on closets full of life sentences

@joelmuller358

6 жыл бұрын

True, but in this particular case (weapons legislation) there is precedent (if scant) on one side of the argument, and none of the other.

@joelmuller358

6 жыл бұрын

So there has been government (state, if not federal) seizures of weapons due changes in legislation?

@joelmuller358

6 жыл бұрын

I am genuinely bewildered by your response. You mentioned that certain types of magazines had been banned despite previously being grandfathered and that it became a crime to have them in your possession. Granted, magazines may be considered weapon parts rather than weapons (turns out to be an important distinction in light of the NRA support of banning bump stocks) so my question may have been phrased badly regarding terminology. Let me expand. When these magazines were banned, in your words "making it a crime to have them in your possession", was there any possibility to keep them by registering them of any kind? Was there a grace period or an amnesty in order to legally get rid of them? Where there any arrests or seizures following it? I don't live in America, so I don't have a dog in this fight. I am merely curious. If I came off as sarcastic before, it was unintentional.

I'm assuming those felons will not be looking to sell anytime soon...

The book you mentioned, "Unintended Consequences" who was the author or can you link to it. I wouldn't mind giving it a read.

@chunglii8

6 жыл бұрын

you ever heard of google? The author is John Ross. Accurate Press. 1996.

@johnpatrickmcp

6 жыл бұрын

Chung Lii, Yes and if you Google just the title dozens of books come up so the question was which one of those he was referencing. But thank you for the information.

@chunglii8

6 жыл бұрын

ever try critical thinking, like searching "unintended consequences guns" since we already know what the book is generally about, in order to narrow down the search? BTW, when you google search simply "unintended consequences", the result you're looking for is literally the 2nd link, and the wikipedia preview displays the relevant information to identify it as such.

@USNVA11

6 жыл бұрын

John Patrick - An excellent read. Do purchase it 😉