I love how neoliberalism says free market and competition is all that matters and then pays millions in subsidies to have some corporations stay afloat when they should just die already

@arkadiusztrzesniewski4237

3 жыл бұрын

Like Barack's Obama help for Detroit's Big Three (Ford, GM, Chrysler) which to some degree actually saved dying automotive industry...

@TheAmyk01

2 жыл бұрын

this right here!! lol

@origrammar

Жыл бұрын

*cough*Tesla*cough*SpaceX*cough*SolarCity*cough* Sorry, I have the weirdest cough lately.

Liberalism for the poor: "Too bad, personal responsibility" Liberalism for the rich: "All is forgiven, society will pay the bill"

@smoothbrained4channer976

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly why we need neo-liberalism!! We must make the poor suffer more!

@scandited2763

4 жыл бұрын

seb aye But exactly in neoliberalism exist “new liberals” their views are same with social liberals but also have a point, that market should get more power and cooperate with people. Im neoliberal in Ukraine where freedom of market is very low Governments of world, liberate market! Держави світу, дайте ринку незалежність!

@sceaserjulius9476

4 жыл бұрын

tHeY cReAtE jObS yOu kNoW

@coopsnz1

3 жыл бұрын

Middle class ... Social democracy worse for me

@lufufi3iboo

Жыл бұрын

haven't you heard? it trickles down!

“When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will you realize that one cannot eat money.” Quote of victims of a genocide nobody talks about…..

@noahshomeforstrangeandeduc4431

4 жыл бұрын

Who was that again?

@claudiag.9307

3 жыл бұрын

Alanis Obomsawin

@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868

2 жыл бұрын

Why did I think this was the lorax at first?

@user-ey8yc7st7k

Жыл бұрын

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 I thought the same exact thing then realized it was way too verbose for a Dr Suess story

The great thing about neoliberalism is that it allows us to blame every single structural problem of our society on either personal failures or too much government.

@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing

6 жыл бұрын

i think i mentioned elsewhere, Karl Popper on Metanarative is worth a read on this point.

@fridgeking6014

6 жыл бұрын

Escorpion Venenoso What you're basically saying is "Socialism allows us to blame every single structural problem on the structure", that is exactly what it does. Oh and Marx didn't argue for more government. What you're thinking of is welfare states.

@Liam-vu7wo

5 жыл бұрын

@Quigle- Dorf I'm pretty sure that's Marxism, not socialism Socialism can work with capitalism, like it does in Canada and some of Europe Edit: Marx argued for no government

@alexcovell6905

4 жыл бұрын

​@@fridgeking6014 Marx argued for the proletariat forcibly overthrowing the more successful and centralizing "all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class." There can be no question that Marx argued for heavy Government involvement.

@daisy3869

4 жыл бұрын

@@yellowbrand when you take "no, they didn't argue for more govt" to mean "oh so yOU DON'T WANT A STATE? FUCKING COMMIE" like can you use your brain?

The oddest thing I find when arguing with ancaps and neolibs is when I talk about wage-slavery. How the bus driver who gets paid minimum wage and has to work 12h/day in harsh conditions to simply put some bread on their family's table the next morning is basically impeded to seek anything else, and how proper welfare would allow them to at least guarantee a better future for their kids. The response is that the bus driver "is free" and "chooses" to be a wage-slave, because there is the alternative of not working and dying of hunger. (They literally said that. Their idea of freedom is that you can choose to die if you don't want to be work terrible conditions because you weren't born into a middle-class family)

@SleepyMatt-zzz

6 жыл бұрын

www.recruiter.com/salaries/bus-drivers-transit-and-intercity-salary/ "A Bus Driver, Transit or Intercity will most likely earn an average pay level of around 24000 - 36000 based on tenure level. Bus Drivers, Transit and Intercity will usually earn an average pay level of Thirty Thousand Seven Hundred dollars per annum. Bus Drivers, Transit and Intercity receive the highest pay in New York, where they can get an average job salary of just about $47350. They can expect the most salary in Arts, Entertainment, and Recreation, where they can get salary pay of $42820." A bus driver is not starving, seems pretty decent for a job that only requires a high-school diploma (I myself am only making around $12,000 a year and I'm pretty good). You gotta' chill out dude, hardly anyone in western countries actually starves anymore. Getting tired of communists using the "Look how many people are starving!" argument. In today's society, a poor person can eat better than anytime other time in the world, and often have support mechanisms in many first world countries like for instance homeless shelters and food banks (They are pretty good here in Canada). World hunger has gone DOWN over in the past two decades (With the exception of the middle east do to conflict), so stop bitching about how "capitalism is enslaving starving people", when it is the exact opposite. There is a reason Americans are facing an OBESITY CRISIS. We are fine, our standard of living is better than before, luxury goods such as technology is super cheap now. ourworldindata.org/hunger-and-undernourishment/

@Kiloku2

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe this is correct in the US, but in my country, bus drivers are among the most overworked and underpaid workers. And the argument I mentioned takes place in my country, after all. Regardless, substitute it for any other intense labor/low pay job, and the core of the conversation stays the same

@Kiloku2

6 жыл бұрын

However, the bus driver's inability to get better jobs is not his own fault alone. The society he lives in has dealt him bad cards. Born to poverty, studied in low quality schools with overworked teachers and lacking material, and he can't even stop to study on the side to get better conditions and a better job because his current job takes the greater majority of his time and effort, leaving him exhausted. Claiming individual responsibility is nonsense if a person's life is affected by much more than just their behavior and choices alone.

@DarkAngelEU

5 жыл бұрын

@@Kiloku2 This is something neolibs seem to forget, that nothing in life is entirely self-made. Everything, literally everything, is relation to one another. We are social creatures, how would it even be possible for a human being to create their own success and wealth without the help of workers who produce the things that create his wealth? It's really astonishing to witness how oblivious they choose to be when confronted by their own actions. It's like they're pretending to be vampires and while holding up a mirror, they keep pretending the reflection isn't there. If that doesn't work they just keep making stupid jokes or try to distract you because that's what the media has taught them. They're just fucking puppets without even knowing it. That's the saddest part.

@DarkAngelEU

5 жыл бұрын

@@jessicafreitas8444 In Belgium euthanasia is legal. Doctors aren't very willing to help those who seek it, though.

To paraphrase Noam Chomsky: "Neoliberalism isn't liberal and, it isn't new"

@pheonixfireblazer

6 жыл бұрын

Chomsky? Don't Noam.

@TheBloodyHanded

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I love that quote! I just started reading Chomsky, and he makes so much sense

@aliecat1999

6 жыл бұрын

bamischijfje123 government guarantees liberty, fuckass

@aliecat1999

6 жыл бұрын

The neoliberalism of the democrats in america seeks to address the injustice of capitalism only to the existent to which the working class will continue to tolerate capitalism. I don't know what you mean by freedom. If its the freedom to say racial slurs, or the freedom to pay a person a starving wage. Freedom in how you act upon others does not need to be explicitly violent to be immoral.

@Nootathotep

6 жыл бұрын

Neoliberalism IS liberal and of course it isn't new

>Maggie Thatcher in the thumbnail *spits on the screen*

@maurofitermannmoreira7953

4 жыл бұрын

+

@ostsarahb7466

4 жыл бұрын

In France we have an old 80’s song called Miss Maggie that ends with the singer saying he wishes he could reincarnate into a dog and use Thatcher as a street lamp to piss on everyday 😂

@Gaeisok

4 жыл бұрын

As an Irish person I feel disgusted that she paid terrorists to kill innocent Irish people and then blamed the terrorist crisis on us. Like I can respect someone that doesn’t like terrorism, but being part of a terrorist organisation while she says this rubbish is disgusting.

@vwertix1662

4 жыл бұрын

Margaret Thatcher's grave is a unisex toilet.

@ostsarahb7466

4 жыл бұрын

Putin’s Gay Twin As a Lebanese and Syrian person, I feel for you... I know what it’s like dealing with violence within your country and having people who meddle in, make it worse, and then blame you for it.

As a disabled person I'm really glad you talked about disability and it's relation to neoliberalism as many people often forget about how important a point it is. I am not free as a disabled person under neoliberalism/capitalism. This is just a true statement regardless of your view point. Even with the class privilege I have from having had a relatively middle class upbringing I am still trapped. I'm 19 and in university and my family mostly look after me but what will happen when I inevitably have to move out? Will I be completely reliant on benefits (which are often not enough to live on?) Will I be working in a part time job where I'm constantly in pain and tired barely able to pay rent? Will my house be accessible? And with all these worries will I ever live a meaningful life? Or will I be living pay check to pay check in debt (after the NHS is privatised) and with pain my entire life? I know everybody has worries but I feel like it's more intensified when you have a disability. I've been worrying about this stuff since I was just entering high school and it is crushingly real and personal. If every person with a disability has to go through this I completely understand the suicide statistics - why would I live in a world that hates me? I'm sorry to be so depressing but this is why I hate when people dismiss it as "just a political opinion" or "not personal." It absolutely is personal. Thank you for bringing this stuff to people's attention - really enjoy your videos! Keep up the good work

@SleepyMatt-zzz

6 жыл бұрын

I can provide a positive for having a disability in a capitalism country. I live in Canada, am working class, and I have Autism, as such I am entitled to something called a "PWD", which provides me with over a thousand dollars a month, cheaper medical, and cheaper university. Although being Autistic makes my life more difficult, I can't say that it is necessarily a burden, since it now provides me with the resources to lift myself up. This would only be possible in a country with a surplus of resources, capitalism. I'm sorry to say, but at the end of the day life would be harder for you under any system that has been invented. Stop blaming your problems on capitalism, because you would have to compete under any other system, that's just how life works. You say you are middle-class and in university? I don't know your situation, but if you are able enough than take some responsibility for yourself and try harder because you already have a head start! As Shia Labeouf says, "JUST DO IT!", because you won't get anywhere by blaming others!

@puffmanor

6 жыл бұрын

@ matthew yeah but disabled people in the uk get virtually no govt support. being able to 'get over your disability' while receiving aid is different to the same without any help. disabled people in the uk cant even expect to be housed in an accessible residence. for a better insight to the conditions many disabled british people face www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/30/disabled-readers-austerity-disability-cuts may be worth a watch.

@ijulienne

6 жыл бұрын

Equality is simply a social construct.

@daysgoby7310

6 жыл бұрын

sounds like a personal problem.

@nalinh0

6 жыл бұрын

Matthew Fox the captalism that helps you earn a living in spite of your disability due to the "surplus value" it gives back to you is only possible through the exploitation the very same system enables throughout the third world. you were unfortunate to be born with a condition that limits your econonic mobility under neoliberalism you just got lucky enough to be born in a rich country with welfare unlike many autistic people around the world.

"nowadays 'economic benefits' basically means rich people getting richer and everyone else working harder"

Im so glad you talk about neoliberaism in this way. When I was learning about it in first year sociology it was presented without any refrence to the harms it brought. It was presented as if it was neutral. This put me, a working class person in a predominantly (but not entirely) middleclass environment, in the position of having to justify why my family using benifits was 'justified' rather than 'laziness'. For context, my mother had serious mental health issues- but I should not have to say that for our rights and moral fibre to be considered proper. It gave voice to a lot of blatent classism in my year mates, and reduced me to tears in the lecture. Thankyou for prioritising the harm of this ideology- and for pointing out how other forms of systemic oppression are ignored, and that there is nothing 'neutral' about framing neoliberalism on its own terms, and on it own playing field

I love that Prager "U" is the ad for this content.

@PhilosophyTube

6 жыл бұрын

Dammit, I keep trying to block them from advertising on my videos but they keep getting through

@Thomas...191

6 жыл бұрын

Philosophy Tube yes a perfect feedback loop sounds great... no friction between ideas .... that's such terrible liberal concept allowing a free market of ideas

@michaelgj23

6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Putt I have two big gripes with Praeger U. First, their ads are usually longer than most. Second, their claims are often supported by faulty evidence.

@backhandedhandies

6 жыл бұрын

prager u is proof that "academic-looking" vids will fool idiots into thinking their bad arguments are good because this rich guy funded animators to help dress up his neoliberal talking points.

@Thomas...191

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Gutierrez... I hear what your saying.. and I'm not endorsing prager.. although there are a wide range of opinions exprssed on the channel... but really I'm just fed up with online channels living in there own little realities .... blocking ideas instead of challenging, discussing and understanding is a step backward in my opinion... this is where I see Ollie fail in his critique of liberal capitalism as well.... see Jonathan haidt talk on this topic www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=0ahUKEwj-l7if_uPWAhUObVAKHRrwA9UQwqsBCCowAA&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov

I got the most excited when you insulted neoliberalism immediately.

@trevor7049

5 жыл бұрын

same

@wohdinhel

5 жыл бұрын

my cock immediately became diamonds

@historiafilosofiayderecho8076

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was very funny XD

@buttlicker7670

4 жыл бұрын

That's how you know that the video has a slant, when it reveals its biases immediately!

@gam3rmom3nt3

4 жыл бұрын

@@buttlicker7670 that makes it less bias then if he just didn't point out his bias

It's all personal responsibility until your the one that needs help XD

@Nootathotep

6 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

@Nootathotep

6 жыл бұрын

stupid

@HxH2011DRA

6 жыл бұрын

Ironed Sandwich Yes you are

@dranelemakol

6 жыл бұрын

enjoying that power of majority agreement are you

@eduardoroca1991

6 жыл бұрын

Because this earth is ours to share, not for individuals to parcel out and do with as they wish. People should be free to follow their desires but not to hurt others. Ideally we should be encouraging people to form their goals to be in harmony with the rest of society, because I don't trust someone who does things without regard for others.

Those speeches from Thatcher and Reagan sure aged like milk.

0:29 ''a garbage idea for garbage Humans' is that a shout out for Sargon

@willisles7742

6 жыл бұрын

He's a "classical liberal" which means he's a neoliberal that doesn't care about minorities

@G396

6 жыл бұрын

Why is it that every time I hear "classical liberal" my brain automatically goes to slave owner.

@whitherwhence

5 жыл бұрын

I hope not, this video is nearly 2 Sargons long

@Sparrowash97

5 жыл бұрын

@@willisles7742 Wouldn't classical Liberalism not be more towards the original form of liberalism rather than the neo? Because that's kind of what classical means?

@Sparrowash97

5 жыл бұрын

@Cian McCabe Nice grammar! Just because they may share similar political ideologies doesn't mean they share moral ones. Jeramy Corbyn is a socialist who sympathises with communism but I'm not going to compare him to Joseph Stalin am I? Or maybe I should...

"Choose with your dollars" My father lives where the ONLY general store for MANY miles is a Wal-mart. Just how much freaking frakkin choice is THAT?!?🤯🤯

@professorgrimm4602

Жыл бұрын

Most brands found in general stores are owned by one of 5 big corporations. Almost every sector is dominated by a few huge companies. "Choosing with your dollars" is a fiction. You have the illusion of choice. But all of the choices are mostly the same, with some surface differences.

@Kritikanbringer

3 ай бұрын

Maybe, live somewhere else. Aren't there millions of cities? But yeah you lack choice, of course.^^

You look like a put together British version of Shaggy from Scooby Doo.

@brettm7162

6 жыл бұрын

JoshSpeaksWithWords Sir shaggy

@PhilosophyTube

6 жыл бұрын

Hah, love it!

@daegan_ftw

6 жыл бұрын

Did you have the brown pants to go with the green shirt?

@tasneemali4970

5 жыл бұрын

Isn't that so. I was also wondering!😀

I realize Halloween is coming up, but did you HAVE to use Thatcher as the thumbnail?

@Gaeisok

4 жыл бұрын

Got my click

@pavelm.gonzalez8608

3 жыл бұрын

she wasn't ugly when she was a younger... but yeah i know what you're talking about!!!

@Pfhreak

3 жыл бұрын

That wasn't a comment about her appearance, it was about the fact that she's the devil incarnate.

I feel that most of this video was recorded through clenched teeth with many, many breaks for screaming in frustration

There's a good discussion to be had in how right-liberalism/conservatism/neoliberalism relate to aristocratic ideology. The obsession with "meritocracy" and genetics in particular, common to these three related ideologies(and how often its used to justify their flaws&failings), seems to be an important bridge(or political line, to be more cynical) for this connection.

So, for clarification, does this mean that Neoliberalism covers, specifically in America, the Democratic and Republican parties, and moreover, Neoliberalism would be the explicit ideology behind American Libertarianism which was fueled by Milton Friedman and Friedrich Hayek? I've never been a fan of American Right-Wing Libertarianism, and I once got into an argument at Barnes & Noble with one, yet I've never been able to articulate the problems of this Libertarianism and Neoliberalism. I know that it's problematic, wait extremely beyond problematic, but I've never been able to demonstrate to them how terrible of an idea it is that they hold.

@huntcummins8243

6 жыл бұрын

I honest to god beg you to use any other source besides this one to learn about neoliberalism.

@AbhorrentAutismo

6 жыл бұрын

American Libertarianism of the "Taxation is theft" kind is more born of tail end of heterodox economics knows as the Austrian school. While Hayek overlaps with that as the founder, they tend to lean more in the direction of Murray Rothbard and his contemporaries. I should also point out that Murray Rothband pertains to the more extreme anarcho-capitalist branch of libertarianism. And caution invoking Rothbard when talking to quote un quote moderates as they seem to share little in common with him and more with Mises or Hayek.

@jacobdriscoll8276

6 жыл бұрын

Broadly, yes, you're right. Convincing people requires more than facts, though - the backfire effect will shut down those you hope to reach.

@christopher6047

6 жыл бұрын

Jacob Driscoll Liberalism is the dominate ideology throughout American history. Progressivism (Teddy Roosevelt), Federalism, Whigs, Democratic, and Republican are more arguing about the nuances or practicalities rather than the assumptions within liberalism or neoliberalism. Our libertarian party was a corporate response to the new deal which was a response to Eugene Debs style of socialism. Thus, you may find it hard to articulate a critique because our two parties (and American libertarianism) hold the same assumptions, but vary on the details based their interpretation of the Constitution.

@Esmittyfasho

6 жыл бұрын

Garland41 if you can’t demonstrate why you believe something is false/bad, it probably means that you don’t understand it. Read up, pal.

Great video, really interesting and educational. Me and the rest of my friends love you videos and this is one of my favourites so far. I hope you are feeling a bit better

Thank you for everything Olly, can't wait for the next episode

Please sing more that made me smile. Also, great stuff as usual.

On October 26th in the year 2020, I posted the 1,001 comment on this video, and I'm thinking over all the incorrect things I was taught about politics throughout my childhood.

Super happy to see you bring up care ethics and how the existence of relationships of care undermine the individualist focus of (neo)liberalism. Have you done a video on care ethics? If so I'll be watching it shortly. I wish you'd gone even farther and looked at the importance of un-paid or underpaid care labour in the foundation of capitalism, but I suppose that's tangential.

Thank you Abi for keeping your old stuff up on your channel. This series is one of my favorite of yours.

I needed a refresher on this for an exam, weird seeing Abigail like this, but thanks for keeping these shorter videos up! You're a saint 🙏🏻

Neoliberalism is pretty much what caused me to have to leave the UK when they simply made it too difficult to survive as someone with a disability. I can consider myself unreasonably lucky in holding dual citizenship, and in the other country I have citizenship of not (yet) resorting to quite the same level of sadistic behaviour... But it certainly wasn't something that was reassuring... And I feel sorry for all the people in similar circumstances who had to somehow find a way to cope with it anyway...

@TheManinBlack9054

3 жыл бұрын

So where did you go?

@fatpotatoe6039

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheManinBlack9054 To somewhere they can leech better

Carbon trading puts a price tag on pollution. It helps to take externalities of consumption into account.

We have to appreciate Abigail’s masterful cosplay of Shaggy

Classical liberal here. I’ve never met one of my own kind that believed helping or caring for someone was bad. The mainstream school of thought was that it was bad to do it through the power of the state because it gives the central state more power that it uses to grow itself, and thus make more people dependent upon it.

Neoliberalism does have a solution for the problem that some people lead lives that require more money to maintain or that are paid less for their labour - they die. I didn't say it was a **good** solution.

@paulaserrano9018

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed

Thank you for being so up-front with your personal reservations before jumping into the analysis. Disclosure is important yo

That point about competition is excellent, particularly in light of the growing neoliberal(and particularly Republican) defense of monopoly in the US. Really makes it clear how much market-claims are merely justifying rhetoric rather than actual principles or goals.

The end of this video was one of the most hilarious things I've seen lately. Perfection. Also this series is excellent and informative. Thank you. (P.S. I found out about you because of Contra.)

"you do not have a right to demand other people to provide you a decent living", which goes contrary, in my opinion, to your right to pursue happiness. You're completely right. If we had to take a "libertarian" angle to it (although I'm not libertarian), Denial of social welfare is as much as a serious violation of personal liberty as is denying someone access to the "market." - I have yet to see a neoliberal make any argument for a moral distinction between the two.

Chile:.. im a joke to you? Chile is the most neoliberalist country in the world, we have private water services got damn, and btw theres was a workers uprising during october 2019 and now because of the pandemic, we are on wait for a constitutional assambly to replace a constitution made in pinochet dictatorship in the 80´s, greatings olly.

@GPRentals

4 жыл бұрын

Por almenos su economía no está completamente estancada cómo aquí en México. Les deseo lo mejor.

@larenzdechavez442

3 жыл бұрын

Neoliberalism made Chile the richest nation in Latin America, at what cost of innocent human lives!?

Correction: Neoliberalism LOVES government spending (tax-generated revenues) on private companies, such as oil subsidies. Neoliberalism also loves government creating policy which avails private companies to enhance their profits such as consumption tax where children and pensioners pay tax, but employer status and off-shore loopholes ensure global companies pay little or no tax.

7:19-8:06 is incredibly important in how neoliberalism shapes attitudes towards the entire spectrum of service industry workers.

Sees Maggie in the thumbnail Clicks Is sad because the video isn’t describing the horribleness of Maggie Thatcher enough🥺🥺

When you get the chance could you do one on conservatism?

I needed this humorous take right now. Thank you! Cheers.

Thanks, Olly! I've meant to watch this Liberalism series for a while and finally started yesterday. 6:30 Difficulty navigating the job market specifically is the only real reason why I'm now on disability. I received an autism diagnosis in 2007, then again in 2008 and a third time when I applied for disability in 2009 because the state didn't feel the first two were enough (from a psychologist and a neurologist respectively). And because of damn neolibs, I worry every day that my disability is going to suddenly vanish. In the meantime, I'm using the time that I have the disability stipend to change careers from software engineer to comedian. I've been enjoying your work for a while now and am almost certainly going to use some clips in my upcoming work on subjects like American Libertarianism and the bs idea of "work life balance" that turns leisure into another form of work, along with the accompanying stress of work.

Put some care ethics books in your next reading recommendation video please!

I suggest you read "The Quest for Cosmic Justice" by Thomas Sowell.

@xxxxxx-kk7mh

4 жыл бұрын

Thomas sowell is a right wing hack

@michael5637

3 жыл бұрын

@@xxxxxx-kk7mh Get fucked

the arguments in this video were well justified and convincing imo, opens up a lot of interesting avenues of thought!!

I have a small issue here and that is that "neoliberalism" isn't a good term at all for what you're describing. It has no fixed definition, it is used exclusively pejoratively, and it can be used to describe absolutely any group of persons or policies one does not like for whatever reason. It is in fact primarily used in this way, further robbing it of whatever dubious value it had as a term in the first place. What you're describing seems to be mostly "market fundamentalism," and grows out of a misunderstanding that the economic idea (and theoretical, not presumptive, benefits) of "free markets" can be achieved by regulating markets poorly when in fact Free Markets are a theoretical abstraction and not achievable in any situation whatsoever. There is always a better term.

LOOOLLLL so much shade. I feel like you've been watching Hbomberguy. Love the snark.

Do I detect some video editing styles from Contrapoints and Hbomberguy? :3

@PhilosophyTube

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed!

@whitherwhence

5 жыл бұрын

@@PhilosophyTube What an exchange of words

That cut at the end was amazing!

Loved the video! My only minor gripe is that it seemed to imply that neoliberalism was invented in the 80s, but it has been around as an ideology since at least the end of WWII.

This is going to be good

Cap and trade works. I suggest you look into it before throwing shade.

Whoa. I discovered this channel a week ago [or so] and honestly this is exciting. I somehow feel cheated that you have been here since 2013. But oh well, there is no regret-I have found you at last anyway. Lols. I am here to stay and keep following. God's Speed! Keep at it please

Awesome video! I am taking everything with a pinch of salt like you said, but this was incredibly informative! I've been researching this because it appears to be the start of resistance towards environmental health in the US government

Can't wait for the next lecture. I come from a postcommunist country in eastern EU and a critique of capitalism is always very quickly tagged as an expression of support for USSR and/or other totalitarian communist regimes. Hence I really enjoyed this lecture. I want to read a book about socialism now. So inspiring!

I think I hate neoliberalism just as much as the next guy. I'm pretty much in agreement with Noam Chomsky and Adam Curtis about it I think. The thing I most dislike is it's ostensible prizing of individualism and personal responsibilty, despite in practice leading to a kind of homogeneity in behaviour and thought (see Manufacturing Consent), and utter dependence on the market (which generally translates to utter dependence on faceless TNCs). There's something inhuman about it. All that said i would have liked Olly to make his best possible argument in favour of neoliberalism, which would have given his arguments against it much more power. I fear that many people will come away feeling that there is another side to this they haven't heard and that they are in fact correct.

@ostsarahb7466

4 жыл бұрын

deee fqdd I see what you mean, but basically everyone makes arguments in favor of neoliberalism all the time, so I don’t feel like Olly really needed to repeat them.

@YodasPapa

4 жыл бұрын

​@@ostsarahb7466 You obviously move in very different circles to me. I can think of people who might make arguments in favour of certain aspects of neoliberalism, but not all (e.g. someone might favour globalisation but not austerity). Searching 'the case for neoliberalism' yields roughly a 9:1 ratio of con:pro articles/videos, with about 2 being neutral. I was gonna say the current UK conservative government is very neoliberal, but of course they're defined by Brexit which is a rejection of neoliberalism so... I guess they include many neoliberals (e.g. Dan Hannon) but they are forced into a kind of nationalism by current circumstances.

@ostsarahb7466

4 жыл бұрын

deee fqdd I wish I moved in similar circles to yours... but I live in a part of Paris where people are either liberals or pretty conservative, and the faculty I go to is filled with people on the alt-right (I mean most of the students. Most of the teachers are leftists.)

Great video series

thanks Olly, I could relate more to your perspective in this video, especially because of that care ethics bit. People can be nice to each other even if systems don't allow them. But systems, if they're deliberately vague (unlike good philosophical discourse) become difficult to identify as being faulty. And the nice people end up suffering a lot of anguish because they're not able to determine the source of their problems even though it's really in front of them all the while.

Nnnnaaaaaa I take issue with presenting carbon trading as an expression of neoliberalism. It's a market-based idea, yes, but its whole point is to restrict the freedom of companies to do enrich themselves at the expense of the environment by gradually increasing the cost of doing so. The end goal of a cap-and-trade system is a situation where emitting carbon is so costly that companies choose literally any other option. It's like that old myth about boiling a frog; you turn up the heat on the market gradually. (Strange metaphor in this context, sorry.) Cap-and-trade systems have gotten a bad reputation because the ones that have been implemented so far have been so lenient as to be ineffective. It looks like that may be about to change, however; for example, there's an ongoing push to raise the cost of carbon credits in the EU carbon trading system.

@hangonsnoop

5 жыл бұрын

Your comment is a wonderful example of liberal wishful thinking. It is a fantasy to think that we are going to see powerful entrenched interests be made unprofitable in the current political climate.

@daisy3869

4 жыл бұрын

@@hangonsnoop Was thinking just that. Gotta be bonkers to think that's done anything to inhibit business

I agree with you, but it would be much more persuasive to people who disagree with you on neoliberalism if you took a more neutral tone.

Hi, Abby! I literally just watched you in The Acolyte and then needed a primer on neoliberalism. Thanks for being both a great actress and a great educator. Also, weird to see the old you. I'd totally forgotten your old name tbh...

Great thing about neoliberalism is that it makes you all a lot richer and happier than you otherwise would be, but provides you with the social and legal freedoms to express your miss-founded opposition to it.

>neoliberalism >democracy you can only pick one

@puglosipher1666

6 жыл бұрын

bamischijfje123 really? How does a system that allows an elite to have huge political power and control market intrests, advocate power to the entierty of the people? Democracy does not only matter when chosing what laws to be governed (by putting some ink on a peice of paper every fourth year.) Democracy also matters at the workplace and in the markets (e.i. it should be embedded in our everyday lives.) And in that respect I think communism is as close of a societal system you could get to "true democracy" where democracy is also very much present at the workplace and the makret. (Where the few don't rule over the many and dictate their working lives, taking value from their work, and dictate what & how much they consume.)

@daysgoby7310

6 жыл бұрын

muslim

@bethlancaster4120

5 жыл бұрын

Sadiq democracy please.

@matthewtrevino525

5 жыл бұрын

I think the proper questioning needs to be directed to the managers. Managers what do you want, what are you mad about, what are we doing wrong?

@petersmythe6462

5 жыл бұрын

@bamischijfje123 communism is democratic BY DEFINITION. Neoliberal "democracy" requires you believe that regulatory capture is impossible, or that democracy does not lead to regulation. Neoliberalism necesarilly must take control of the state to be able to weed out unionist and other noise. This is as critical for it as it is for fascism to do so.

"If you put in regulations, and start demanding businesses pay wages people can actually live on, then they will just take the jobs to other countries" [IRELAND INTENSIFIES]

the first time I heard the word "neoliberalism" I was in undergrad and a friend of mine was using it to describe something, using a whole lot of academic language and I felt completely at sea and... a little talked down to, actually. Thanks for explaining it clearly as you do.

I like you taking contrapoints use of voice modulation. Also I want contrapoint to bring back the air horn. I didn't know that philosophy tube had air horns in this video when I made this comment.

I was hoping the last episode would focus on solutions to getting out of this capitalist mess the entire world is in.

@myntmarsellus241

6 жыл бұрын

Might I suggest the fourth video in his Marxism series? It's specifically about "after capitalism"

@cshahbazi1220

6 жыл бұрын

Will give it a look now.

@cshahbazi1220

6 жыл бұрын

Ok, I had seen that before (and rewatched it for extra measure), but I found the "future" section of that video very unconvincing. The logic doesn't follow and it doesn't seem feasible, but either way, the picture it paints for the future isn't exactly very positive, where the world just marches down the current destructive path until everyone gets fed up and turn to Socialism/Communism/some alternative. It also doesn't offer a solution, it presents a futuristic prediction, that the natural course of events will culminate in. There's no role, no choice, no real solution for us to get out of capitalism any sooner than it crashes.

I understand you have stated to take this with a pinch of salt but I think it is important to understand how practical markets can be to discover, satisfy needs and disincentivise surplus. There is also incentive for production. Production helps be able to satify more people's needs and wants as well as gives us a better ability to sustain and secure human rights.

@21dolphin123

3 жыл бұрын

Yes they have good and bad points

absolutely love your videos!!!!

“Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”

"Bourgeois democracy, although a great historical advance in comparison with medievalism, always remains, and under capitalism is bound to remain, restricted, truncated, false and hypocritical, a paradise for the rich and a snare and deception for the exploited, for the poor." - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov

@alexkoppany7229

4 жыл бұрын

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How is carbon trading a neoliberal concept, when neoliberalism is all about deregulation? I disagree with neoliberalism for similar/same reasons as you stated, but that doesn't invalidate all markets.

@uzername90

6 жыл бұрын

"when neoliberalism is all about deregulation" Because it's not, in reality. But I don't think this aspect of neoliberalism is really adequately explored in the video, so it makes sense that you'd be confused by that segment.

@goininXIV

6 жыл бұрын

@Pete Sussman: I'll be the first to admit that I don't know as much about the topic as I should. But if it's something else, maybe you could give a short overview as to what it is, or link some source that you'd consider a good introduction?

@uzername90

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, no problem. I discuss this a little more below in a response to Jon S: " agree, Jon. It's not terrible or anything, but its not great either. The idea of what a "free market" even is isn't really ever explored, which I think allows the argument to skirt right past some really crucial elements of liberal ideology and neoliberalism. In reality, neoliberalism, at least in implementation, doesn't really seek to create markets undisturbed by governance (as if such a thing even made sense) but rather seeks to establish and extend generally multilateral systems of trade governance which override the will of sovereign nations in such a way as to best generate profit for investors in a conglomeration of dominant trans-national corporations. And we could explore various instances of how this abstract idea of trade 'liberalization' ultimately leads to an extension of the enclosure process that was explored in episode 1. There was also no real treatment of neoliberalism as a historical force. No discussion of the history which lead up to neoliberalism: the wars, the development of the atomic bomb, loss of investor confidence in sovereign bonds, the stagflation crisis, the dissolving of the bretton woods accord, etc..." This film is a good resource for understanding neoliberalism: vimeo.com/164159037

8:20 The way you took out that book without looking!

Mr. Lennard....Professor Lennard? Your video here, # 3 in your series "What Was Liberalism?" is excellent. You've defined neoliberalism about as succinctly and made it as understandable for us common folk as any I've seen. Well done. Queston: Why did you entitle the series as you did? Referring to Liberalism as something that"was", rather than something that is...? You don't see a chance in Hell it'll ever rebound, do you? Well, I agree. This situation us humanAfter this 40+ year wave of neoliberal corporatists/politicians is finished, so shall we all be. In the meantime, please keep on enlightning my leaded mind!

I’m disappointed, you said at the start you would try to give the positives, but that did not come across. I assume your beliefs were what made reaching that nuance difficult, so I appreciate you giving it a try anyway. Keep up the good work!

You should discuss your views with Gary Edwards in a hangout. I would watch it. He's doing a response video to each of your videos. He is much friendlier to liberalism than you are.

The Contrapoints inspiration is very strong. I like it.

I love your videos! I'm a physics major with philosophy minor. I'd love to work with you on a segment sometime :) and yes, I'm a gaming channel but I hope to expand. Keep up the fantastic work :)

"They assume that free markets mean competition. And competition means that quality is kept high, prices are kept low, and it drives innovation, distributes resources efficiently to the people that want them the most." That's... not specifically a neoliberal thing. That's capitalism in general. But OK... I'm inclined to mostly agree with this stated premise (might pick some different semantics but eh... close enough). You're going to tell me why I shouldn't. So let's see what you've got: "Have free markets resulted in a lot of competition everywhere? Or have some markets become dominated by a very small number of companies?" Yep... oligarchies happen. Ever notice that it tends to be in the most heavily regulated markets? Big companies with fat profit margins can survive regulations, small businesses and startups can't. The more you free the market, the easier it is for literally anyone with money, charisma, and/or a brilliant idea to spring up and carve off a big piece of the big guy's market share with a better product/service/resource for everyone. "Are resources as efficiently distributed as they could be?" Never. There's always room for improvement. But if we're to compare against existing examples capitalism does it faster, cheaper & overall better than the alternatives. "Do they always go to the people who want them the most?" They go to people able and willing to provide something of value in exchange. There's a lot of overlap between the two groups. But no. Some people don't get the resources they want because wanting something doesn't automatically mean you get it. Although even in a ruthless capitalist society of individualism people actually do still give a shit about their fellow man. Private charities are still perfectly functional capitalist entities (for profit or otherwise). "Is the innovation that is happening always useful?" No. People chase bad ideas all the time. But generally, people quickly lose interest and stop supporting bad ideas (or run out of money). At least in a capitalist setting bad ideas can die on their own merit of providing nothing in exchange for what you give them. Instead of being propped up by tax dollars people don't want to spend on a completely unsustainable pet project of some ego-centric politician and the slight majority he's convinced is not a bad enough reason to kick him out of office. "Is it allowed to benefit all of human kind when it is?" Who decides what is and isn't beneficial to all of human kind? Or are you simply referring to the fact that when someone creates something useful and new, it isn't immediately somehow provided to everyone who may want it? I can't help but notice there was weasel wording in every single one of these questions. As presented, you have to answer "no" to all of them because the question requires absolute total success in all cases in order to answer "yes" to any of them. "individualism ignores systemic privilege" Yea... so what? In what way does someone else being rich, good looking, charismatic, smart or skilled negatively affect you? Especially someone you never interact with? What it does not ignore is systemic discrimination. Stuff that actually negatively affects people in a quantifiable way. "individualism ignores or misvalues the role of care" Individuals still care about people. They still have friends and family. The only difference is that they are encouraged to take it upon themselves to see to the well being of themselves and the people they care about. Sure, you can be a shithead who burns every social bridge but you end up fucking yourself when hard times fall upon you. An individualist still has vested personal interest in maintaining good relationships with those around them for this very reason. Even when their motives are *completely* selfish. As individuals we are encouraged to make these connections ourselves as opposed to expecting some authority to forcibly extract our needs from strangers. Individuals care about other people, collectivists care about the *idea* of other people.

@williamcrooks9561

4 жыл бұрын

Well said.

Great video, but I'm a bit worried how obviously one sided it is. I'm aware you used comedy to alleviate some of that rhetorically, but it's still there. Don't get me wrong, I'm on your side. But fundamentally, philosophy is about reasoned debate. It's the very core of philosophy. Philosophy should be apolitical (or should it? Dun dun duhhhhhh). I just don't want PhilosophyTube to become another shitposting channel. Lord knows we have enough of that. Remaining apolitical keeps the channel pure, no matter how hard that is at times. I think you're at a crossroads, where you have to decide exactly what this channel is. Is it OllieTube, or PhilosophyTube?

@SleepyMatt-zzz

6 жыл бұрын

I get the same impression too, the tone of the few past videos is worrying me a bit. The reason I subscribed to him was because he seemed like a left leaning person that wasn't just interested in shelling out propaganda. Now I'm starting to think differently about him... His humor isn't very good, too similar to HBomberGuy. It kind of makes me cringe.

@buddy2000529

6 жыл бұрын

Should philosophy be apolitical? Some of the best philosophy orbits fascism or communism. If philosophy was apolitical we wouldn't have Schmidt or Ardent, nor would we have Marx or Camus.

@otobusify

5 жыл бұрын

"fundamentally, philosophy is about reasoned debate" No it's definitely not.

@SlashCampable

5 жыл бұрын

@@otobusify wait, so it isn't non confrontational fundie owning debate science? Damn it

You define it as something great and I do not see how could this flawless idea fail.

This is excellent. Well done.

WAS???? we're living in it

Normally great content, but please, please read an economic textbook before you talk about neoliberalism.

@xD3fiNiTiOnx

5 жыл бұрын

Daniel Verrier Or provide more contribution, as you are already here, and offer an opinion of your own. Don’t be smug sir

Love the Xenomorph reference! :D Might it also be a metaphor for the deadly and parasitic characteristics of neoliberalism? If so, it's a damn good one ;)

OMG THANK YOUUUUUUUU this is the first lesson i've found where i can finally understand what neoliberalism is

I agree with many of your attacks on neo-liberal economic thought, but the way you framed it - as an attack on liberalsim - made me weirdly defensive as someone who considers themselves a (social/progressive/radical/left-)liberal and given I wouldn't consider any British PM since Lloyd George a liberal. Thatcher was a conservative free-marketeer, not a liberal, and everyone after has just been a more watered down version of her. For example, the idea that liberals see human lives as less important than profit - I'd like to raise you one Martha Nussbaum. Or just the general idea that to be a liberal means being pro unfettered capitalism, what Soros has called 'market fundamentalism', I'd like to raise you a John Rawls and every social-liberal party in the world - including the actual party of British liberalism: the Lib Dems.

@josephwilson1744

5 жыл бұрын

The Lib Dems had no problem sacrificing 100+ thousand vulnerable human lives on the altar of austerity. Bastards.

Olly, this video might be your most poorly-argued so far :/ Take it from a fellow philosophy scholar, you are way better than this! If I didn't already agree with your conclusions (which I do!), I wouldn't be convinced by your arguments. It seems like you got sloppy on the script, because you reckoned you had a too easy case.

@Mabasei

6 жыл бұрын

then form a counter argument.

@vakusdrake3224

6 жыл бұрын

I mean he already said he agreed with him so putting all that effort in to demonstrate the arguments are lazy, is more work than most people care to put into playing devils advocate.

@MarioC42

6 жыл бұрын

Jon I agree with you. Olly, you are a better philosopher than this. You've demonstrated that in years of good, well argued, rational and informative videos. Please don't lower the quality of your work just because you think you are right (just to be clear, I agree with every single thing you said in this video, but starting by saying "this is very bad and everybody who think this is garbage" is a very good way to let people think your arguments are just full of bias and therefore invalid, even if they are not and you are right)

@ChristianMetal55

6 жыл бұрын

More or less a Neo-liberal here. I also walked away without hearing much of an argument, but I'm interested in the topic. I don't think capitalism is perfect, but I view it as the lesser evil of many dysfunctional alternatives. What does Olly or do you view as a more viable system and why?

@JonSebastianF

6 жыл бұрын

Mabasei, my comment was just a bit of critical feedback on the argumentation style in the script of this video. From that, it does not follow that I should form any counter argument, because: (1) I am educated in argumentation, not in neo-liberalism. (2) This is just KZread's time-wasting comment section :P

I love the disclaimer in the first 30 secs!

Love the no-look book grab at 8:21

Iraq followed a similar path to, arguably, the birth place of neoliberalism...Pinochet's Chile.

Can't wait for the Marxist indoctrination next episode!

Looking good with that goatee Ollie!

I dunno, guys, I *think* Olly might not be such a fan of neoliberalism, are you getting those vibes too or is it just me? xDD (no for real though, this series is an amazing resource

There are four centrist ideologies: social-democracy, social-liberalism, laissez-faire liberalism, and neoliberalism. Let's begin from the start. Centrism is being for (some kind of) equal opportunity for everyone within a class society. Centrism is comprised of social-democracy and liberalism. The two are differentiated by the view regarding state action in the economy, socdem wants more of it, especially nationalizations, whereas liberalism is characterized by preference for more private/ market functioning. Liberalism is comprised of two political ideologies: social-liberalism and laissez-faire liberalism, the two being differentiated by the view on question of social safety, soclib wants it, laissez-faire wants it gone, or almost gone. So, soclib wants more of a substantive, whereas laissez-faire wants only formal equality of opportunity. Where's neoliberalism here? Well, it was a practical position before it was a theoretical one. It is the position practiced by regimes which used the rhetoric of l-f liberalism, but didn't actually want to apply it, at least not all of it. They just wanted to cut social welfare, but didn't want to cut (and often increased) corporate welfare of various kinds. At first totally masked by l-f liberal rhetoric, when pressed about this, they eventually came clean and gave the view of neoliberalism: common people should not be helped bc "welfare dependency", and "personal responsibility", but the filthy rich should be helped, because if they fail economically, that would have a bad effect on the overall economy. So, we get four centrist ideologies: social-democracy, social-liberalism, laissez-faire liberalism, and neoliberalism. Neoliberals still like to mask their position by l-f rhetoric, but in times of economic crisis, when their bailouts and other obviously non-laissez-faire policies are seen by everyone, they mention their real view. What is tricky is not only that neolibs use l-f rhetoric to mask their position, but that most l-f liberals fall for this rhetoric and propaganda. Most of people who espouse laissez-faire liberalism are totally ignorant of the extant to which state action made the rich rich, and to which state action keeps the rich rich. Due to this ignorance, they will praise the western economy as a market success, but the fact is that laissez-faire system never existed anywhere, during the couple of centuries that capitalism exists as an economic system of its own, it was always either neolib, soclib, or socdem.

@SleepyMatt-zzz

6 жыл бұрын

You really need to split your comment into paragraphs.

@MonMalthias

5 жыл бұрын

Liassez-faire has never existed, does not exist, and will never exist. The closest laissez-faire capitalism came into existence was at the beginning of the gilded age towards the end of the 18th century when America was rapidly industrialising, wages were rising rapidly, living conditions were improving....and monopolies started forming along with anti-trust actions. Once the railroad and steel and coal monopolies formed and the robber barons of Vanderbilt, JP Morgan, Rockefeller and Carnegie estates held incredible economic power, _there was no longer competition._ In a truly free market the rise of monopoly is inevitable. The nature of vertical integration in driving down costs for the most efficient, pursued to the logical conclusion, is a monopoly wherein one huge player controls virtually the entire industry from cradle to grave. With the profits and power deriving from that monopoly wielded against upstarts. It might be a state owned monopoly. It might be privately owned. It might be a transnational. It might be a conglomerate of affiliated industries. It does not matter. When size promotes efficiency, for example, in inherently uncompetitive "markets" like railroads, signalling networks, roads, power generation, agriculture, banks - then you will see the inevitable rise of monopoly. Laissez-faire only works as a platonic ideal. It actually takes state action to maintain competitive markets, like breaking up monopolies or turning them into regulated monopolies. Or disbanding vertical integration and bringing in contractors for services. Or putting in rules that prevent anti-trust action like buying up a competitor's stock and assets and then liquidating them. It takes state action to bring about the conditions of competitive capitalism by lopping off the head of any rose that grows too tall. The "equality of opportunity" takes rules, enforced by state action to foster - but by imposing rules you are by definition in violation of laissez faire. I would actually consider neoliberalism to be the logical conclusion of laissez-faire. If laissez-faire inevitably leads to the rise of monopoly that state action must prune back, then neoliberalism is the formal acceptance of that conclusion.

You maybe alright when it comes to philosophy but please do more research over political ideologies.

this would've really helped my paper in english lol 😂 love ollys vids tho

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