Now imagining Celts and Germans going to scared groves to yell poetry at each other

@frankatronx8041

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's how it was, maybe the songs and poems were all a part of the worship etiquette. "Dolf wrote a new song about Frigg. He's going to sing it at the next gathering." It all sounds so wholesome.

@dereks8930

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a family reunions minus the poetry

@callummackay4282

3 жыл бұрын

Ye Old Rap Battles

@j3tztbassman123

3 жыл бұрын

Given the similarity in guest relations/hospitality rules seems possible.

@marinakaiser7639

3 жыл бұрын

Lol‼

I found the most impressive thing in The Gallic War was that the ground never buckled under the towering mass of Julius Caesar's ego.

@frankatronx8041

3 жыл бұрын

I don't care who you are, that's funny.

@smrtfasizmu7242

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, it's not really egotistical if you can back it up lol

@stupotgorilla

3 жыл бұрын

Thank the biggest savior to the nordic tribes from the romans.....its the romans its also the romans.

@lizc6393

2 жыл бұрын

This is next level history nerd humor and I love you for it.

@renata_of_the_craft

2 жыл бұрын

But the ground seriously buckled when Varus moved his legions to winter camp via a detour through Germania, and never left that region, as he committed suicide after having seen 3 whole Roman legions being slaughtered by combined Germanic tribes. Rome, militarily, was never the same thereafter. The ground beneath Roman sandals had indeed buckled.

Heathenry is one part religion and two parts University coursework.

@jacobjonesofmagna

3 жыл бұрын

One part psychedelic mysticism in addition depending on which aspect of heathenry you're into

@stephenakastephen5117

3 жыл бұрын

This is so true that it makes regular truth appear false

@thumphreybrogart4108

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobjonesofmagna I 100% credit psychedelics for being the thing that started me down the path that led me to heathenry. My parents were quite secular, so I was never really even a christian. Became a heart atheist early in my adolescence. A singular Salvia trip knocked me from hard atheist to agnostic. From there it's just a been journey trying to figure out what the fvck is going on.

@rhysqqq

Жыл бұрын

And one part nerd who thinks they'd be accepted by ancient primitive farmers if they guess right what they believe

@fiedelmina

Жыл бұрын

lushously sprinkled with fantasy literature and some Wagner opera.

1) I loved the nerding out. Never stop nerding out for us. 2) Calling the Poetic Edda a weird remix album is probably the best thing ever. I cannot now I think it and it makes me ache that we don’t have the original tales

@HobbitWarrior

3 жыл бұрын

What's even worse is that the original tales likely varied from region to region. I find it helps to think of what we have as a greatest hits.

@the_polish_prince8966

3 жыл бұрын

Check out the Merseburg charms. They’re really cool, really short, and the only Pagan literature we have written in Old High German. One even preserves an ancient story not told in the Eddas, but shows up in Scandinavian folk stories all over the place (replacing Baldr with Jesus in the folk tales).

@ogr8bearded175

3 жыл бұрын

@@HobbitWarrior Problem is that they are COVERS of the original greatest hits :/ Granted that Manfred Mann's cover of Bruce Springsteen's "Blinded by the Light" was much better than the original, but this is rarely the case.

@vargr

2 жыл бұрын

We can thank the White Christers for not having all the stories

@Jay_in_Japan

5 ай бұрын

If it makes you feel better, neither do the Christians nor Muslims have the original tales of their respective founders. When you dig deep into the history of their texts, that's what you find

Regarding the difference between Celtic and Germanic culture: Caesar had a vested interest in portraying the Gauls as 'a little wild and unruly but noble and tamable' while portraying the Germanic people as 'those psychopaths over there'. Great video as always! - Logan

@Amy_the_Lizard

3 жыл бұрын

...I just realized that that's exactly how the humans in my writing view my Gaul-inspired elves and Germanic-inspired elves respectively...guess that makes the humans Rome then...

@zsedcftglkjh

2 жыл бұрын

No more reason than modern pagans have a vested interested in smoothing over the paganism's rough patches. Doubly so, because Celts weren't too keen on keeping written records. Oral traditions aren't too reliable when playing 'telephone' across a millenia.

@HyperboreanJihad

Жыл бұрын

Western emperors: never trust or go near the tall blonde crazies with the axes Eastern emperors: give the tall psychopath blondes with axes money to be your bodyguards

@chrisnewbury3793

Жыл бұрын

@@Amy_the_Lizard of course. Rome is the empire of the land. The elves are the people of the sea and rivers. The Mer.

@ekesandras1481

Жыл бұрын

Caesar committed an entire genocide on the Celtic Helvetii tribe, just to empty the land for the later conquest of today's Switzerland and Schwabia by the Germanic Alemanni. The Romans couldn't hold these Agri decumates longterm.

Beginning of the video: "this might be considered more advanced stuff" Three minutes later: "I need to pull out muppets, I'm just teaching you about the days of the week"

@southernpaganprincess7739

2 жыл бұрын

I loved this too!!!! It’s like ok please for the sake of Tyr use Animal when referring to the Gauls….. 😂 💕

I’m a Heathen and a History teacher so I’ve found my spiritual home on two fronts. Please - never stop nerding out 💚💚

@ladyraven3418

2 жыл бұрын

Heck yes! Also, I love your icon/avatar. One of THE best games of all time.

@cafra11972

2 жыл бұрын

@@ladyraven3418 Thank you and YES! Totally the best game of all time! 😊💕

@danielbentley8434

9 ай бұрын

Well said

Key word; animism Animism is the core of polytheistic belief systems

@OceanKeltoi

3 жыл бұрын

Animism in Heathenry is definitely I topic I want to explore more in my future videos. I've mentioned it a couple times before, but I do think it's often ignored, and it shouldn't be.

@urfacecalling101

3 жыл бұрын

@@OceanKeltoi Please do! I have a lot of questions about how heathens understand things like landwights and how such things might be dealt with or celebrated

@lorenezrawhitman4467

3 жыл бұрын

@@OceanKeltoi yes,! Do that, it's is SOoo to get looked

@annalisalundberg4561

3 жыл бұрын

A very nice perspective of Animism in the ancient times is given in a lot of Arith Härger's videos. While we wait for Splash Daddy to make his videos, I suggest you go check them out

@jannawratil6646

3 жыл бұрын

@@OceanKeltoi That would be great !!!

“Wednesday is Odin’s day” will forever live rent free in my head 🥰

@ASAogWana

Жыл бұрын

you are so clever ,or not?.....is thatv all you know about the weekdays?TYR?THOR?FRIGGA?no days?there is only sunday for the sun ,monday for the moon and saturday for the jews,all the other days get back to germanic gods.hero-girl.......lol.....

@MsBizzyGurl

Жыл бұрын

It scares people to know this. Can confirm.

@jeanvaljean7266

Жыл бұрын

_Woden`s day_ ...as the Anglo-Saxons used to call him Woden, similar to other Western Germanic tribes on the continent: _Wodan_ or _Wotan_

@anonymeroverlord

Жыл бұрын

@@UnleashedDaemon Regarding Tuesday, the god Týr or Tiwaz was also called Tiu. In modern German, Tiu would still be pronounced like the "Tue" part of Tuesday

@jeanvaljean7266

Жыл бұрын

@@UnleashedDaemon from Wikipedia Old High German // English Monddag // Monday Tiusdag // Tuesday Wodensdag // Wednesday Donarsdag // Thursday Fridag // Friday Sambaztac // Saturday Soldag // Sunday Source: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wochentag#Deutsche_Wochentagsnamen

Modern german here. Tag = day Montag Dienstag Mitwoch Donnerstag (thunders day) Freitag Samstag Sonntag (Sunday) Well this days there is a disconnection to the meaning off the words we think Freitag means (free day) and dienstag (service day) 😆 Maybe Christianity is to blame here 🤔

@richardmangelmann4975

3 жыл бұрын

No Freitag is actually from the goddess freya, the ones whom you cant form from the germanic gods you can derive from the roman gods, I remember discussing that in latin class once

@dershogun6396

2 жыл бұрын

German here aswell. Of course, not all days are of ancient origin I think. Mitwoch is just formed from mit- which probably comes from the german word mitte which means middle and woch from woche which means week. Donnerstag comes from Donar, which is the old high german name for Thor and also related to the german word for thunder which is Donner. Freitag comes from Frey probably who's german name is Freia or Fraia I think (might mix smth up here, Freya, Freyr, Frigg etc. Is all so confusing) . Dienstag is the only one that I don't know the origin of. As the commentator put out there, you might see the german word Dienst in it which means service but the ending t is the beginning t of tag so I don't know where the Diens- comes from. Samstag (Saturday) and Sonntag(sunday) are not so clear. Sonntag is, it comes from sonne, the german word for sun but Samstag makes no sense in modern high german. There is so such thing as Sams( except for a rather famous children's book character from the 1960s who was called Sams after samstag )

2 жыл бұрын

Or maybe the Germans are more practical for their day naming... ;-)

@klausrelovsky7874

7 ай бұрын

Dienstag from God Tiu=Tyr?

@bezoticallyyours83

3 ай бұрын

Thank Gods its Frietag

I never thought about the religous places in Scandinavia, but it makes sense. I live in Odense in Denmark, which is named after Odin. It's pretty fascinating to read about these places Love your videos, keep up the good work!

German here, its funny that so many of the tribe names actually lived on. The one you mentioned called Swaebi sounds a lot like the Schwaben, people from a certain region of the country

@OceanKeltoi

3 жыл бұрын

The Suebi actually went on to invade Rome successfully a few hundred years later and settled in modern day Spain and Portugal. Though there's questions as to whether or not that's the same tribe or another tribe with a related name, or if the Suebi of Caesar even called themselves Suebi, or if that was just the name of a tribe that the Romans applied to the Germanic peoples generally. There's a lot of questions about this period of history as it relates to later history.

@richardmangelmann4975

3 жыл бұрын

@@OceanKeltoi Thank, thats very interesting!

@12tanuha21

Жыл бұрын

The name Schwaben (Swabia in english) go back to the Suebi. Maybe not every Suebi moved to Spain and a part remained at the alps

@theChaosKe

9 ай бұрын

The suebi were a very large group of germanic tribes that were said to be so big that they would have almost become interchangeable with the term germanic. Even groups that we nowadays dont consider "schwaben" were suevi, for example the hermunduri who became the thuringi or the marcomanni who became the bavarians.

@appelflapdrol

Ай бұрын

And what about Neu Schwabenland, the territory of Antarctica the Nazis claimed and allegedly had a secret aircraft base (anti gravity tech related)

It's interesting to see how dynamic the old gods are. I'm currently reading how Hecate (one of my personal deities) could have originated from the middle east and traveled to Greece/Rome and beyond. She's even potentially equated with Isis.

@ladyraven3418

2 жыл бұрын

Yassss! Have you read anything by Sorita D'este, or Cyndi Brannen? (Cyndi Brannen focuses more on Her in the Greek world/context, but does mention references, both known and possible, to Her in other cultures)

I would so dig a "part 2" to this video if you ever get the inspiration to make it. I feel like you only scratched the surface of this topic and it's a fascinating one.

@OceanKeltoi

3 жыл бұрын

there's a ton more to discuss, and yeah, I had to put out the disclaimer that it's not comprehensive.

"So you can imagine incredible rituals, in which the legends were sung by those leading the ritual in order to pass on their stories and familiarize everyone with these songs. This gives a whole new view of what we've lost over the course of time..." Meanwhile, at a local Rock concert:

I agree, the gaps in our knowledge are tantalizing, but also a bit depressing, considering how likely it is we won't ever know the answers to most of our questions. But, even I am a bit optimistic. There's nothing saying that a future archaeological discovery couldn't reveal more.

@mpforeverunlimited

2 жыл бұрын

Ancient empires had a habit of burning any writing they found on the history or religion of people they conquered and also lots of people just didn't write things

If you look at the swedish and finnish versions of the word firday: swedish fredag and the finnish perjantai (this on might be harder to see, but the finnish translation for Freya is Freija so it's easy to see how freijan day could have become perijantai) I think it is safe to say that Friday is just the English trying to pronounce Freya's day

@occupyvenus4868

3 жыл бұрын

It's similar im modern german "Freitag", which seems more similar to Freia/Freiya/Freya but that's only if you look at the modern language alone. Old High German(OHG) and Old Norse(ON) paint a different picture. Friday/Freitag in OHG is Frijatag, which clearly comes from the OHG name for Frigg - Frija. -Well, I suppose Freya is never mentioned in OHG anyway and probably wasn't known to/whirshipped by southgermanic people (because she and Frigg/Frija were the same)- Interestingly enough we neither find Freyudagr (Freya's day) nor Friggjardagr (Frigg's day) in ON, only Frjádagr (or Frjádagur in old icelandic). Which either simply means "love-day" or ON simply adopted the term nearly unchanged from more southern dialects. These terms must have made their way from more southern/eastern germanic people that had extensive contact with the romans to the north after all. But also, in modern Faroese it actually IS Friggjadagur, soooo maybe Frigg's Day was used in old norse to some degree ??? We do not know. The old english Word, btw, is frigedeag, also from Frig. And while this is a bit off-topic: the Langobardic name for Frigg? It's Frea. Because that doesn't make all of this even more confusing. Anyway, I also used to assume that "Freitag" must have some connection to Freia, so I just wanted to share my research 🙃

@bernhardrosnau169

2 жыл бұрын

In english there is thursday coming from thors day. In german there is donnerstag coming from donars tag. Donar being the southern/western germanic name for thor.

@dwarfbard6226

Жыл бұрын

Perjantai does not come from that, but from Perkele (a derivative of the baltic Perkunas or the slavic Perun) which is depicted as male god of lightning.

@firebird4909

Жыл бұрын

@@dwarfbard6226 I've never heard this theory, and it would make sense if you look only at that word, but to me it would seem kinda off, as all the other names for the weekdays come from the old norse language

@unagrimm1156

Жыл бұрын

The Old Norse translation is fairly similar, Frjádagr, and English Friday comes from Frīġedæġ in Anglo-Saxon. (we must note that ġ makes a j [Modern English y] sound often in Anglo-Saxon)

I've also heard that seiðr in practice was often sung, or a musical chant, which lines up with how the Sagas may have been sung to preserve the oral tradition.

@nachobidness2553

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, because last week Hel asked me to sing for her, and I always approach my Hecate candle with a song before I light it.

I like to do my offerings to Odin on Wednesday. Well, from now on I'll have to ignore the voice in my head: 'Wednesday is Odins day'. 😂

@forthor219

3 жыл бұрын

I mean you still right tho. Lol

@UberOtaku001

3 жыл бұрын

I still love Gaiman's choice to have Odin go by the name Mr Wednesday in American Gods.

This video is incredible. I laughed, I cried, I felt hope, I got lost and had to replay a few parts. It has everything. AND I learned things! Honestly, your videos just keep getting better and how is that even possible.

I loved this deep dive so much! I’d really love to see a video on the goddesses of the Norse and women’s role in Norse practice. I notice that that kind of information tends to not be discussed on heathen channels and that masculine deities take precedence.

@rebeccahahn6172

3 жыл бұрын

Agree entirely! I've been waiting for it since before I subscribed/joined the army.

@White_Breeder

Жыл бұрын

Thats mainly because modern "pagans" are liberal degenerate redheads that can't admit that men and women had different roles for most of history

@malgusvitiate7002

9 ай бұрын

You mean Germanic, not Norse. Norse only refers to the Vikings/North Germanic peoples. Germanic refers to all Germanic-speaking peoples, including the Vikings, along with the West Germanic (Franks, Lombards, and Anglo-Saxons) and East Germanic (Goths, Vandals, and Burgundians) peoples.

I've been wanting to learn about this here recently. Thank you, Ocean.

Fantastic! As always, elucidating, entertaining and enlightening. Takk!

One thing I love about our faith is its fluidity. Not just in Heathenry, but in the pre-Olympic Greece also. The Poseidon worshipped at Athens and at Thebes were heavily localized, and thought they shared a name and associations with horses and the sea, I think archaeological findings are showing that the Greeks themselves understood that they were different but some how the same, and this ambiguity didn't bother them. It's this comfort with seeing the universality and locality of something, and not being upset if the two doesn't match, that I find beautiful and inspirational.

I'm really enjoying this channel! I love studying religions and mythology.

Thank you for your insight. I do enjoy your videos a lot.

Still new to your videos. And hearing you get nerdy and getting that giddiness from this kinda information is exactly what I do as well. It's refreshing to know that I'm not the only nutt gets so cought up on interesting little things and just showing the love and passion towords this realm of knowlage.

I sincerely believe this is the best video I have seen from you so far.

Keep nerding out. It makes for great and very informative videos.

thank you for “nerding out.” it helped a lot to understand how the mythology and history meet, as i am trying to connect my family tree from the 1500’s to these historical times.

Great Video as always

Amazing video, really makes the gears turn!

That’s a very nice and accurate explanation 😊 Thanks a lot to Lilee for sharing it

Awesome video! Thank you! 👏🌱🌳💚

My favorite opening pun so far. Keep up the good work.

I'll happily listen to you needing out, you teach me a lot in a fun, engaging way.

This is amazing. I’m gonna have to watch this video a few times! And more books to read! Add to the list!

interesting and educational, it taught me a few more things that i did not know before, thank you ocean

You are soo great ,you explain it all with humor😁i love it ‼

Please keep nerding out - really enjoyed this video!

I just have to say, i share your fascination of any and all things heathen, especially in norse mythology... And i particularly appreciate how you've begun to add humor, and small quips into your videos... Makes them so much more entertaining... Keep it up... Makes things easier to remember... ;)

I'm so glad that your channel exists. Because I'm trying to find my beliefs but i have no idea where to start and have nobody to look to. Thank you for this.

I love this!

Love the content! Thank you! Liked and Subscribed, can't wait for more!

Love this video, as usual it is chock-full of some good info. Thanks Ocean! BTW I laughed way too hard over "a Rhine in the sand" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

***** love every video you put out.

Perhaps the most objective approach to historical analysis I've heard, which at the same time covers the subject in a wider range ΄΄so. congratulations.

If deities were created by the people through a kind of common, universal unconsciousness, it would make sense that gods from different cultures would have similarities, because the problems people faced (food, natural disasters, sickness, etc) are pretty universal.

Love a history nerd sporting a Viking beard :) Thoroughly your vids, keep them coming!

A great video. Thank you.

I've learned so much here thank you

Wish I could come to where ever your at and learn from u I definitely feel a connection and a good vibe from u. Keep up the great content skal

@Joe9923pagan

2 жыл бұрын

Also m9ving to Denmark eventually

@Dice_roller

Жыл бұрын

@@Joe9923pagan Please just stop… with all of the ‘Playgan’ slang.

A frustrating dynamic indeed but satisfying frustration. Awesome nerding out session as always. I just want to say thank you, Brother. Your discussions always leave me(A norse pagan who recently stopped lying to himself about what I've always known at my core was true. Closet be damned, Ive been in the broom dungeon.) Always leave me with more questions that answers. Answers that are later shown to me if i want them bad enough.

Thank you so much it was sooo interesting

One theory that I've come across frequently is that Frigg and Freya are one and the same Goddess depicted at different ages. Freya is the younger version before she became a mother and then became Frigg. Now I'm not saying this as a fact... it's just something that I've came across on multiple occasions.

@OceanKeltoi

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen this as well. There seems to be credence to it. But y’know. Lack of confirmation and all.

@emiliobustamante2401

3 жыл бұрын

The ambiguity of Freyja/Frigg as the same/different goddessess is maddening - for my own, I do see them as fully separate, as they each embody IMO very distinct archetypes. I think the historical concensus is that... there was no concesus amongst german and scandinavian people, and some saw them as the same, others as different, and as the years wen by they either merged into one or diverged into two - I cant remember what the current theory is of her/their path

@maniyasha134

3 жыл бұрын

First time heard it. Very interesting theory !

@sylvassasalladsbestick1342

3 жыл бұрын

There's also a theory that Freya's husband Oðr is really Oðin. I highly recommend the book Fornnordisk religion by Gro Steinsland to anyone who can read Swedish or Norwegian.

@dylanmatthewneo1506

3 жыл бұрын

The Eddas does not confirm Freyja and Frigg are the same goddess! Frigg daughter of Fjorgynn(father) with an unnamed mother; and Freyja daughter of Njörðr and Nerthus(sister-wife). Also Freyja have daughters named Gersemi and Hnoss with Óðr!! Óðr must be a Sun god or a god of magic.

Amazing video! Even though I am not a Heathen, but some weird young Pagan, focused right now on the Western Slavic Paganism, primary on the area of today's Poland, where the Slavic tribes had contacts with (and assimilated) some of Germanic tribes after the migration and the influence from Celtic tribes that lived iirc in today's Silesia. I take big inspiration and energy from your videos to seek and learn more not only about my own path and the beliefs of the lands I live in, from the sources (that sadly were written by the Christians, writing in Latin and using the Interpretatio Romana, but still a somehow useful and worth sources to check), from the post-Christian folktales that have the echoes of old Pagan beliefs, but also looking into the the beliefs of the neighboring tribes! Chwała i sława, and thank you!

@TheLostArchangel666

3 жыл бұрын

Ancom leanings too, I see? Based as hell. Luciferian ancom myself - but I definitely do find this stuff to be both fascinating and inspiring, too.

@richardmangelmann4975

3 жыл бұрын

fun fact, in German the word for heathen is also used for pagan. Its called being a "Heide". So I am an Atheist, but in Germany id be pagan but also a heathen

Wolf head garb... Black sword... Hey, are we all Sokka? Count me in!

@Le_GingerBeardMan

3 жыл бұрын

I’m just a guy with a boomerang!

I believe the Rhine rather to be the "mixing" line, if you will. It's where Gaulish and Germanic deities overlap, and where it seems that they have not only lived on top of one another, but also intermarried. The Romans described some Gallic tribes in this region as being descended from Germans, and some in Germania as being descended from Gauls, some with a fusion culture, and some who's roots are obscure (possibly from so much and so long mixing).

@therealschoolpsychologist9772

Жыл бұрын

As a part of warfare, the winning tribe took away the women of the losing tribe (in all lands), so yes, when Gaulish tribes were beaten by Germanic tribes, their women were folded into the Germanic tribes.

I've been watching American gods and Odin goes by Mr Wednesday and now it makes sense

I'm not a Heathen but I've been curious about the gods of my ancestors before Christianity (I have both Anglo-Saxon and Danish ancestry) this is a great video and I hope you keep making such great content! I've found it hard to find studies of this stuff without certain hateful ideologies worming their way in so seeing this video put a giant smile on my face.

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

Жыл бұрын

You used to worship a big tree like the Arabs. Why does Germany have so many trees? What is special about a big tree?

@noahjohnson935

Жыл бұрын

@@user-cg2tw8pw7j the Irminsul had a lot in common with Ygdrassil from Norse myth. The Tree which holds the World. Lots of cultures had similar ideas. The Cherokee in the United States believed that the world was on the back of a Giant Turtle. Greeks believed that Gaia and Ouranous' physical bodies made up the Earth and Sky and needed to be separated.

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

Жыл бұрын

@@noahjohnson935 But the Germans have very many trees, so why do they worship them while the Arabs live in the desert except for the region of Yemen, and that is why they worshiped trees

@Diego-fd3we

3 ай бұрын

Basically Anglo Saxon’s Germans and Scandinavians worshipped almost the same pantheon. But they named them different but similar names

@noahjohnson935

3 ай бұрын

@@Diego-fd3we not completely. The Anglo-Saxons didn't have references to Loki for example

Oh this is gonna be good. This is my favorite period of history.

@seimar1671

3 жыл бұрын

Is there any credible sources for this history period? Love to know more.

@corytucker6668

3 жыл бұрын

You can read a little bit about the germanic tribes here www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/indexGermanics.htm Theres a lot of sources to read from as well as videos on youtube but take everything with a grain or two of salt because there's still a lot we don't know. Look for info on the germanic tribes or migration period. Most of which we know about germania came from roman sources and Tacitus's Germania. The period of the Germanic tribes also covers a long time period pre viking age.

That Rhine in the sand got me! I subbed!

This is interesting, thanks so much.

Honestly I would love if you did a more in depth video on the celts. While it would feel a little off topic the celts (specifically in Ireland and Scotland) seem to be often lumped in with the norse on their cultural similarities; knotted patterns are a common one. Not only that but the celts are fascinating in general, and as another pagan religion it would be very interesting to hear more about them.

@ungougedeyes552

7 ай бұрын

Gaels or Picts would probably be what you'd want to look into.

Thank youuu❤ new subscriber

I'm supposing that Tacitus, et al., who aren't Christians at least have the advantage as observers of not holding the belief that there is only one true religion, which happens to be the one that the observer belongs to.

To the Friday deal, there is evidence to suggest Freya and Frigg are two iterations of an earlier deity, Frija, the two being included in the eddas would then just be an attempt to reconcile the two in a singular storyline

Thanks!

A huge example regarding placenames might be Frisia, named after Freya. In The Netherlands you will also find placenames referring to Odin (Woten/Woen), like Woensdrecht

@KajiRider1997

7 ай бұрын

There is actually a page on place names in the netherlands and Belgium but its in Dutch. TIL I learned that the Alphen part Alphen aan den rijn is literally just a modern name for Alfheim. That makes going to archeon even more fun!!! Still sucks to walk all the way from the station to it though... and the food options could improve.

@faramund9865

6 ай бұрын

Vriesland heeft niks met Vrouwe te maken. Werkelijk niet. Van Woensdrecht weet ik het niet. (Short English translation: This is not right as far as I know)

I do a little happy dance whenever the notice bell dings for a new Ocean Keltoi video... Anyone else?

@TaurusSystem

3 жыл бұрын

Same here, we love catching his premieres and enjoy talking to the community that follows his information too.

@rebeccahahn6172

3 жыл бұрын

I usually do a bit of swearing at my phone since I get the notification at work and can't get home in time. I'm not totally in the broom closet there, but it's not an environment conducive to actually focusing on what new pun-ishment Ocean's come up with this week.

These are awesome. You have to make these forever now lol

Very informative so you keep on "nerding" away.

Dude I love the history nerd jokes. You may feel a little bad for adding them to the script but I’m very glad you do.

I love the answers leading to more questions. It makes me feel like I am being empowered by Odinn to search for more wisdom.

I hate how these videos answer one question and then bring up 3 more questions. Good video. Nice and condensed information for beginners or people that are curious.

You are quickly becoming my favorite norse pagan source of knowledge lmao.

This guy is great very knowledgeable easy-going he has a nice personality

Hi! Loved your analysis! One thing I read somewhere which might add something to the Roman "Isis" question is the Germanic belief in boats being vessels of travel to the next life. This practice seems to have been very widespread in the Nordic bronze age and was obviously well practiced by the Norse (and Angles at Sutton Hoo) later. Despite the lack of evidence from southern Germany, I wonder if Caesar or his informants saw something of this and made a connection? Stone ships, for example, have a strong connection to Freja.

thank you

Hello sir, thank you so much, you are a great teacher. I like your humor. This gave me a lot of insight on things that I am already familiar with. I almost must say, I think it is truly fascinating the wide influence Isis had on the world.

4:50 Frigg and Freyja might actually be the same diety! In the Scandinavic languages, Friday is actually named after Freyja instead of Frigg. (Friday being "fredag" in these languages; "Frejas dag", Freyja's day) This might suggest that Frigg was the goddess of love in Germanic heathenry (since her named appeared in the name of the day in that region), while that diety was refered to as Freyja in Scandivia during the same time (e.g. Venus might have been translated to Freyja instead of Frigg in that region). It is possible that the written sources later reinterpreted them as two different dieties.

@eleonorahackman6779

2 жыл бұрын

There is also mention of Freja having a love affair with a man named Odr, so I am not adverse to that line of thinking, myself.

@gillesvanzeveren4981

Жыл бұрын

I wish I had read this previous to my comment ... I never heard - however - of any region in Germany referring to Freitag as Friggstag...? Do you have a source for me to read up on? Not for being an ass but for scholarly reasons.. I would like to delve deeper into this. I do agree to the theoretical idea of Frigg and Freya referring to the same deity.

@cobruh836

Жыл бұрын

@@gillesvanzeveren4981 im not that much of a history buff, but freitag sounds a lot like freya(s)tag, so if we assume freya and frigg are the same deity this would make sense i guess. also writing this i just did a quick search on freitag and came up with this: "From Middle High German vrītac, from Old High German frīatag (9th c.), from Proto-West Germanic *Frījā dag (“day of Frigg”), calque of Latin dies Veneris. Compare Low German Freedag, Dutch vrijdag, English Friday, Danish fredag."

You had me at the intro. I'm sick of people just quoting Tacitus and being like, "that's it, that's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" then slamming the figurative book shut.

Memorizing to poetry or song is actually a learning technique for kids.Like singing times tables to a well known tune.So I can understand how history and stories would be related that way.In Australia the aboriginal people who are many differant "nations all use the same techniques not only for stories and history but wayfinding, mapping etc. I think people around the world came to similar conclusions through trial over many years

10 out of 10 🌟's!! Thanks 👍!! Learned a lot from you! 👍🐺🧙‍♂️🐺👍!

10 out of 10, will watch again

I love the little Bear , lol.

@lizabethhampton4537

3 жыл бұрын

The bear is the best. "Wednesday is Odin's Day, wheeee!"

We need that video on the Suebi. Poor Aalie is going to have more reading material.

@vassily-labroslabrakos2263

3 жыл бұрын

Do you want to shock the people that tribal regions are still used in way in roughly the same region? (I'm not kidding the suebi lived in present day Swabia, Lower Saxony is one of the states of Germany same with Bavaria who is named after the Baiuvari , Friesland (and its Language) are still where the friesian came from, not to mention Jutland and it peninsula Angeln. Heck the Region I live in were named after the Vangions.

@chancethewrapper3557

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the marcomanni too

@12tanuha21

Жыл бұрын

@@vassily-labroslabrakos2263 and the Franks at the Moselle, Rhine and in Franconia.

One thing I like to point out, is that Heathenry as we know it, was interpreted through a form of Christianity… that is no longer practiced. Both religions are different from what we see today, but this allows us to expand on our own beliefs.

I'm reading up on the Gods and been doing offerings time to time when in need of guidance. Thank you for making these videos and others, because, it ain't easy but it's worth it, let the Gods guide us all

Interesting video

god fuck how much ive missed chanels who dont bother me with "upbeat music"(according to subtitles appearently)and annoying cutting style(jump cuts and stock footage and such) just the facts and talking,you keep being you,your style is sadly refreshing,it should be the standart,not the exception,thanks for existing mate!

You're an absolute nerd, O.K. I love it! A person after my own heart! I love history and the more ancient the better. Ancient history and human prehistory is my favorite, perhaps mostly because of the impossible puzzles we may never solve. The mists of time and the mystery of lost worlds holds me enthralled in wonder and curiosity. Someday I'd like to go on a tour of stone circles and ancient sites to maybe catch a glimpse of the world as our ancestors saw it. :-)

Thanks for the 'remix' analogy! It's a great way to get the concept across. History's written by the victors... Time and again; )

Please make more content about things like this.

@OceanKeltoi

11 ай бұрын

Heard. I’m planning on doing some more on this stuff.

One of my most treasured memories is of teaching my younger daughter the derivation of the names of the days of the week. I can see in my mind’s eye the look of eureka on her face when it clicked in her mind: “Thor’s’ Day” That was 35 years ago, and it’s making me cry.

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

Жыл бұрын

Are you still tired of the giant tree like the Arabs?

As always great video and information. Thanks Ocean. Also love your Mjolnir. Where did you procure it?

In Groningen I was told by an old farmer that oak trees are protecting the farm from lightning danger. Because Oak trees are rooted different deep into ground water and very big. He said the bark looks like lightning also.

The Romans actually got the names of the weekdays from the Greeks, they just "translated" and simplified the Greek system. The Greeks, or Macedonians technically, in turn took the concept of a seven day week from the Babylonians (or descendants thereof, I guess) and (sort of) named the days after another Babylonian list of seven names, namely the seven wanderers that the Babylonians of old had observed in the sky, aka the classical seven planets (which includes the Sun and the Moon). The Macedonians/Greeks also changed the order slightly from the original Babylonian, so the result was: Sun, Moon, Underworld/War god, wise traveller and god of communication, king of the gods, goddess of love, older god associated with agriculture. After "translating" the result was (Greek/Roman/English) Helios/Sol/Sun, Selene/Luna/Moon, *Ares/Mars/Tiwaz, Hermes/Mercury/Woden, **Zeus/Jupiter/Thunras, ***Aphrodite/Venus/Frigg, ****Kronos/Saturn/???. * - They focused on the war part over the underworld part of the original deity, Tiwas/Tyr probably got in there because both he and Mars were guardians of the Thing (probably). ** - While the two first were leaders they were also gods of the sky and thunder/lightning, hence Thor. *** - Yep. Freyja wasn't really known outside Scandinavia. **** - Kronos had an agriculturel cult dedicated to him in days of old. Both of these are titans and thus enemies of the gods. For some reason they didn't translate this one in English. Scandinavian languages use a different name for saturday which probably derives from an old term meaning "washing day", but there is a (very thin) theory that it might derive from the mysterious Lóðurr, which also possily could be another name for Loki, another sometimes "enemy" of the gods. I meant to just write a little funfact. This got way wordier than intended. Ooops. 😆

@coregoon

3 жыл бұрын

I see youtube had issues with the number of *'s I used there. 😆

@nachobidness2553

3 жыл бұрын

In my experience, Hel's name can replace the ??? on Saturday. She also appreciates her sun-facing side being aknowledged on Sundays.

@godking

Жыл бұрын

Romans began with an 8 day week later this changed into a 7 day week.

Enjoyed this video a lot, and quite like what you're wearing as well. Great attempts at humour also, I likewise attempt to be funny a lot of times (much to the dismay of my audience). Cheers!

7:16 That Commodus🤣 Perfect