What's Wrong with Anti-Racism? | We The Internet TV
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Lou discusses the rise of "Anti-Racism" with Coleman Hughes. What is it? And what could be wrong with being against racism?
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"They don't call it blasphemy, they call it problematic".
I think what he is trying to say is that if you’re not racist , you shouldn’t have to prove it. Kind of like “ the guilty dog barks the loudest “.
@mercedesmartin1269
5 жыл бұрын
Pamela Haling but isn’t doing nothing to combat or address racism irresponsible?
@dominusalicorn3684
5 жыл бұрын
I don't like that phrase. It _can_ be true, but for the most part, it is perfectly reasonable to get defensive when someone accuses you of something atrocious or speaks favorably about something you are strongly against. I mean, Brett Kavanaugh was well within his rights to get angry at the false accusation against him, but "guilty dog barks loudest" was used to claim that because he got angry he must be guilty. Or if you call a conservative Christian gay, it is in no way evidence that he is gay if he gets mad at you for accusing him of something that goes against his deeply held beliefs. Point is, "guilty dog barks loudest" _can_ be true, but is more likely a case of the person genuinely having a problem with whatever was just claimed, and not a sign of hypocrisy.
@pamelapainter3195
5 жыл бұрын
I agree, my meaning was that sometimes, in fact very often lately, it tends to be the guilty doing the barking. For instance people that accuse the president of colluding with Russia were in fact the ones colluding with Russia.
@rixpix2957
5 жыл бұрын
@@pamelapainter3195 I think you're right. I know what you're saying here and, in this case it holds water, because that has become the tactic that folks use. Same principle they use when a speaker like Ben Shapiro begins and they start screaming racist etc just to drown him out. Different tactic but same theory.
@ryanx9372
5 жыл бұрын
When a coworker started off his third joke by saying "I'm not racist or nothing but..." I let him know that I had heard enough and I don't want to hear anymore black jokes. I wasn't combating racism, but I was definitely asserting myself when I felt someone was doing something hurtful... So, what is anti-racism anyway? Hunting down KKK..?
This guy is spot on - I’ve also felt it is like a religious dogma that can never be questioned bc when you do you’re a heretic. And what do we do with heretics? Shame them or ostracize them into submission. And if you’re white you have original sin regardless of your individual accomplishments, setbacks, struggles, etc.
@dakoderii4221
5 жыл бұрын
A white man has $1.00. A black man has $1,000,000.00. Who has more money? If you answered black man, then you are good at math but terrible at insane political correctness. You are also a violent bigot. Welcome to America 2019!
@nghtwtchmn129
3 жыл бұрын
First time I've ever heard of Coleman Hughes. I'm going to find out more about him.
@MarySue1964
3 жыл бұрын
@@dakoderii4221 And the white man with $1.00 still has privilege and the black millionaire is still oppressed.
@ondolite3789
Жыл бұрын
Coleman stinks.
Anyone else listening to this after George Floyd.
@ericrhodes186
4 жыл бұрын
Apparently I am.
@pm71241
4 жыл бұрын
Yep... More important than ever to have reason be a part of the conversation.
@M3TR01DFANBOY
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else listening to this after we learned george floyd was high as a kite when being arrested.
@pm71241
3 жыл бұрын
@Biggie cheese Looking at this with European eyes ... maybe not the George Floyd case, but in general having looked at a lot of cases. I will not exclude that there's a racial element in this, but it would seem foolish to rule out two factors which I think are dominating here: 1) A lot of police with lacking training. 2) The insane American gun culture. I think that in any country, if you injected that amount of firearms and the mentality around them and did an equal bad job of not training your police properly, you would get the same result - also without racism.
@pm71241
3 жыл бұрын
@Biggie cheese I'm a bit surprised that you can't see what gun culture has to do with this. And. Just to make it clear: I agree that abolishing the police is an insanely bad idea. In almost every single video I've seen where the US police shoots someone it's done in reaction to a person being arrested, resisting and creating a situation where the police can't be sure that the next thing to happen is not dangerous. A large part of this is because of guns potentially being everywhere in the US. To put it differently: NO ONE gets shot in Scandinavia for moving their hands the wrong way while being put under arrest, since the police don't have to worry about everybody having a weapon. - let alone an automatic riffle.
"How many people do you know who define themselves as anti-pedophiles?" "Yeah.. those are the guys that you actually want to watch out for." --That, right there.
The only aspect missing is there is NO REDEMPTION in this social religion...even once you apologize you can never be absolved.
The problem with the"anti-racism" crowd is they are only looking at one group (white) as being racist while racism is just as strong and in some cases stronger in other groups towards whites
@tyronesimmonsjr
3 жыл бұрын
Don't confuse people's personal hate toward whites with institutional power. It wouldn't matter if every white person hated black people if black people were the major power holders in government, business, education, entertainment, and were 70% of the population. So even if every race hates whites, those races can't discriminate against whites in any meaningful way because white people hold the power in every institution in America. It doesn't matter if the NBA is 90% black if the owners are 100% white. The owners could fire all the black players if they wanted to. It doesn't matter if the President is black if Congress, the Supreme Court, and all the federal agencies are majority white. They could easily upend the president's agenda. Can black and brown people be racist? Of course ! But their racism doesn't affect much. It might hurt some feelings, but it won't keep white people as a whole in impoverished neighborhoods, with few opportunities.
@hallowakers3d2y
2 жыл бұрын
@@tyronesimmonsjr yea I’m sure the white janitor has more power than rich black guy.
@angelozachos8777
2 жыл бұрын
@@tyronesimmonsjr What a bunch of verbal diarrhea 🤮 You actually believe your own drivel ? 😳
the original sin analogy was spot on
Feminism, progressivism, “pro black-ness,” all pseudo religions now 😂
@ALRIGHTYTHEN.
5 жыл бұрын
Quit using your white privilege to disparage those trying to spread the truth.
@nachannachle2706
4 жыл бұрын
Not religions, SECTS. Blame it on the West for killing religions.
@charlege7206
3 жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/gaiGus6Yadi9k7A.html
@TheWildWahine
3 жыл бұрын
Along with trumpism, saving the children, blood and soil, MAGA, it’s ok to be white, conservativism
@yoogway2427
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWildWahine but people seem to say it’s almost wrong to be a straight white male
I think there's some parallels in extreme, quasi-religious environmentalism. I believe that global warming is a real, human-made phenomenon--but I'd like to also point out how people tend to imbue certain strains of environmentalism with religious significance (not to detract from the issue, but to point out a sociological effect.) I'm sure this will get more and more common as decades roll on. A couple important things I've noticed: 1. Doomsday talk akin to a literal end of the known world (as opposed to rising and otherwise avoidable costs to global infrastructure.) 2. Some talk of "the world being better off without humans" -- as if humans are somehow alien to the evolutionary process of ecosystem domination, and they're negatively impacting something purer and better than ourselves. This also carries with it its own notion of original sin: original polluters. The only thing to do to contain your disgusting polluter ways is to accept the truth of your own inherent polluting ways. 3. Talk of "the environment" or "the Earth" not only as a shorthand for the ecosystem / planet we rely on, but with respect to some metaphysical other -- something that we ought to serve for its own sake, almost religiously. 4. Talk of humans as the sole things driving extinctions -- as if the planet hasn't thrown 99.9% of all species to ever exist into the wastebasket without us. This is another idea akin to original sin: original extinctors. I think a lot of these quasi-religious phenomena (communism is another great example in addition to anti-racism / social justice, and environmentalism) can be explained by the proto-religion theory. The theory postulates that all (or at least the vast majority of) humans have an inherently religious character, and this character expresses itself one way or another. If you don't supply it with an established religion, it tends to latch on to any other moral domain -- whether it's racial justice, economic justice, environmentalism, etc. I'm an atheist, but I'll be the first to say I think there's some credence to this view, as my own experience has been that my atheist friends have always been more at risk of this kind of quasi-religious craziness than my religious friends have been. There's other evidence too: most Communist countries presumably banned official religion in order to supplant it with the state religion, etc. The danger, of course, is that every "young" religion is way more likely to be violent than older, more established, reformed religions.
@Ghal-ht2um
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree 100%. I once heard someone say that her mother told her that "god is nature." There's also when people say that "we should recycle more and use less" because it's "kind" to Earth" or "serves the Earth". Whatever that means. How it's possible to be "kind to Earth"? Has anyone asked what the Earth wants? In my school there are posters saying that you should eat everything on your plate because that way we don't "waste Earth's resources", but no explanation what do they mean by that. How much resources are saved? And haven't we always done that? It just used to be called "being economical" and "using money wisely", but now it's elevated to serving our planet, and being "ethical" and "just" and "moral". And then these same "moral" and "ethical" people half-jokingly say that all humans should be killed. While at the same time if you joke that all black people should be killed, you are condemned as evil racist. Drives me nuts. Either jokes like that all okay, or they are not. It just seems more and more like a religion. Same idea of "serving something greater than yourself." Same idea of "we are all sinful". The same idea of priesthood (activists in this case), who often hypocritically live their life opposite the way they preach. The facts that our lives overall keep getting better and better, are never or rarely told by the media. Of course there are real environmental issues, but like you said, nothing we do ever comes close to the powerful forces of nature that have shaped this planet for billions of years. Ultimately we are nothing compared to them. And if we want to survive them, then I think we need to cast off our superstitious beliefs. But then again, it's easy to forget how new and radical our modern way of life and ideas are. We still have those cavemen brains.
@ChrisRubeo
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot-on analysis.
I would prefer to call this intersectionality and identity politics instead of "antiracism".
@alshnevermore3741
4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@just_another32
3 жыл бұрын
it's specific to race... it isn't the gender part etc. So it is the anti racism aspect. The name was chosen especially to sound like a good thing that everyone should aspire to be.
@one4320
3 жыл бұрын
This must be humour!
I have never heard of anti-racism. but it makes sense. I live in a very progressive city and everything is about putting people in boxes and that was not how I was raised. I called it pigeon-holing. it just seemed more racist to me.
@MegaTeeruk
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm in my 40s and grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood and the whole thing was it shouldn't matter, people are people (Depeche Mode). But now its almost like leftist are calling for segregation only far more severe than anything existed before. They are trying to restrict social interaction, thought, and speech based on "your group". You cannot hold an opinion or anything unless that is your "sect". If you are a white male you have to subjugate yourself to a protected group and hope they will consider you "an ally".
@nachannachle2706
4 жыл бұрын
Alpha, beta, sigma...I heard that Americans use such labels to talk about young men in Universities.
Follow everything Coleman does. He’s a luminary
damn, that part about Christians going to church every week to rehash hit me pretty hard. As a Christian who is not motivated to be in church every week, I am feeling like that is a verrrrry important thing to explore.
@horseman4now
3 жыл бұрын
If all you get in church is a repetition of the Gospel, your pastor is not doing his job.
@cwr8618
3 жыл бұрын
@@horseman4now unfortunately, many pastors bring their politics and own guilt trips into the church. I think Christianity has a hard time not making everyone feel overly emotional, sad, and guilty all the time. Listen to a lot of the music. Just drags, no life or excitement. Can't sit through most of it.
That last line "you're sort of... saved"
This guy is great, great thinker, willing to be wrong, lot of humility.
Thank you Coleman for speaking your voice
Great analogy and all true
I guess the "church" of anti racists would be social justice courses in college. 🤷♀️
Instead of "original sin", it's "white privilege".
What a great point. This guys smart. I wish more people would listen to him and not moron celebrities who haven’t put much thought into their public statements
@altonpaige2388
2 жыл бұрын
Smart? Coleman Crews is a fraud!
This guy is a blessing.
That statistic on youth deaths and overall lynching makes me want to cry. Love the videos!
@ondolite3789
Жыл бұрын
Makes you want to what??!
Someone I knew from New Zealand once described the top 3 religions there as, in order, Rugby, Racing, and Anglican.
@TonyRule
5 жыл бұрын
Actually, not that many of us give a crap about rugby. I certainly never have. And Anglican is a pretty small proportion of Christianty here too. It's mostly Presbyterian.
Great video. I can't understand why you only have 5000 views.
@WeTheInternetTV
5 жыл бұрын
Help us
Where is the whole thing?
I LOVE yalls content!!!
Ha! "Peace be unto him!" 😆😆😆
He tends to make critical points.
Coleman Hughes is seriously so refreshing. A seriously intelligent and remarkable individual💯
@ondolite3789
Жыл бұрын
Rubbish 🗑!
Human nature has not changed. People still want to feel as as good, stand-up, righteous people even though religion plays a smaller and smaller part of their lives. Being politically correct (such as anti-racist) is just the new way people try to achieve that feeling.
great point
They are religious fanatics. You know that makes a lot of sense. Connecting the dots.
Amen🙏
Silence isn't violence.
I think it was Paul Tillich who aptly defined religion as one’s “ultimate concern”.
There has been a similar argument for why atheists have to call themselves anything, but when something becomes so large in society that it is the norm, you need a label to distinguish yourself from it, or it will be assumed you are for it. If pedophilia was the norm and you didn't distinguish yourself as against it, it would be assumed you are for it, like everything else we go along with or fight against. I am not just none religious, I am anti-religion. Anything can turn into a religious-like cause, but it does not have to and not all anti-racists do that. I am anti-religion, anti-republican, anti-racist, anti-sexist, etc. Coleman does not get to decide that all who use "anti" are religious about it. Now he is labeling and redefining the meaning. "Anti" only means to oppose, nothing more.
Interesting analogy. I hadn't heard about "Ant-Racism" before this video, but this gave some intriguing insight. I can see how some may not like the analogy about christianity because they mat argue their religion is a cornerstone of their life and should be taken more seriously -- hence weekly observance of their faith. But a counter argument could be made that the discrimination someone faces carries a similar weight. Nice clip.
@just_another32
3 жыл бұрын
You have probably heard it a lot more this year! I hadn't heard of it till June 2020 myself. Greetings from the UK.
It's such an amazing analogy. Spot fuckin on yo
Coleman certainly is verbose. I would rather hear what he advocates rather than what he critcisizes. I don't think I have heard much more than criticism out of him. A smart man should have testable solutions, concluded through logic that are supported by factual data.
@WeTheInternetTV
4 жыл бұрын
Have you read his work?
This is Coleman Hughes and he is amazinf
Consider this; It is not against any law in the United states to be a racist. Now go.
Spot on.
There is one race, it's called the human race, and (nearly) everybody is brown. Get a colour chart. The end.
@bigfan1041
5 жыл бұрын
False.
@lilfishie7765
3 жыл бұрын
Well, no, the human race is not the only race
I thought for a while that anti racism and the Woke movement in general manifests like a religion. This is an aspect I hadn't recognised though the way they go over the same historical events constantly and repeat the same mantras the way traditional religions do. What it reveals to me is the relatively small number of significant racist events they actually have to refer to in order to demonstrate widespread racism which suggests it isn't actually anything like the scale of problem they wish to depict.
@roseadams8003
3 жыл бұрын
True. Even his tone of voice and the way he spoke sounded so soft and Jesus like 😊
love this
Would it be that difficult to see the disproportion of homicide among black men in America as related to the history of racism there? I would have liked you to expand on your point about that. What do you wish that the NYT would say?
this gave me chills a lil bit. don't know why
@just_another32
3 жыл бұрын
because it is fricking creepy! greetings from the uk
@ondolite3789
Жыл бұрын
@@just_another32 You are probably still shuddering two years on! We now have white lives matter.
@just_another32
Жыл бұрын
@@ondolite3789 I can't remem what the video was about but yeh I am shuddering (but more cos my office is freezing)
@ondolite3789
Жыл бұрын
@@just_another32 So is my bedroom. I blame Coleman Hughes.
What a great explanation. Very well spoken and professional. Would to God whites had the courage to speak the same truths.
Bam!!!! People are prejudice and discriminatory by nature. But the people who point to everyone else's discrimination are the ones you really have to watch out for. You almost have to harbor deep prejudice in order to recognize it and point that out in others.
Anti-racism as opposed to "against racism", or "humanism". Less about making racism a universal thing anyone can be guilty of or can be held accountable for, more about condensing it down to one country (the USA), and something only one specific group of people in one specific culture can perpetrate against another specific group of people. The problem is that it absolves anyone else of the guilt of being racist. It accepts prejudice as an acceptable or permissable thing, it accepts tribalism or favoritism to one's own group as natural. It just perpetrates the cycle of history of people hating difference or implementing tyranny over and over again, even bringing back eugenics (the Nation of Islam were every bit as much against interracial marriage and considered people of mixed heritage less than human, just like the nazis or kkk did) as well as nationalism and segregation. I think the appeal is the dependence a percentage of the population has on tribalism and collective identities. People are put off by having to empathize or relate to people different from them, or the "threat" of abandoning collective identity in favor of individualism, where the taking down of barriers and limits terrify people. But we need to see it for what it is....... it's toxic tribalism, pure and simple.
I did not understand the relationship between the arguement and synthesis
I subscribe to Clifford Geertz's definition of religion. Based on that, I absolutely see anti-racism, socialism, and most every leftist movement as religious ideologies and their proponents as fundamentalists trying to build a theocracy.
Wokeness 100% IS a religion.
@roseadams8003
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
Why am I not surprised to see Lou low-key criticizing anyone opposed to racism?
@WeTheInternetTV
5 жыл бұрын
"Why am I not surprised to see Lou low-key criticizing anyone opposed to racism?" - Matthew Harris, racist
What's he mean when he says we study world war one once, not over and over? I go back and study the first world war all the time, and I haven't been in school for more than a few decades now. I suppose I'd better come up with a name for my new religion. Any suggestions?
@WeTheInternetTV
5 жыл бұрын
Trenchism
@ALRIGHTYTHEN.
5 жыл бұрын
That will do. You're now a deacon.
@johnterpack3940
3 жыл бұрын
Doing it on your own is entirely different from having it shoved down your throat. And I'm betting when you go back to study WWI again you look for different sources to get a fuller picture rather than rereading the same books as if they were scripture.
"All flesh is equal when burnt" Hail the appocylpes by avatar
@MrInconvenient
5 жыл бұрын
That's not true. Some flesh taste better according to diet.
Blasphemy- never was lacking audacity!
Intersectional feminism is indeed a religion. Look into Peter Boghossian, Helen Pluckrose, and James Lindsay on KZread for their take on its religious similarities.
bad set design, bad seating situation which isn't helped by high camera angle and men wearing tight pants. AWKWARD! - and I'm not talking about the content of discussion (which I enjoyed). Re-think your set layout.
he loves to hold that imaginary cups
There is evil in the world but light has come into the world and he is named Christ. He came to forgive and did so even when crucified by those whom he came to forgive. He did so when he cried out, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do." The left cannot forgive for they know only the path of hate and revenge. Revenge corrupts mankind but true forgiveness is truth that frees us. So they are slaves to darkness as long as they hold onto the need for revenge.
People who make this argument are not interested in actually understanding anti-racism. It’s clearly a movement about policy, but it’s opponents want to make it about individualism, so they can win an argument with a strawman.
any time someone leans too much into 1 thing 9 times out of 10 they are projecting
This shit is profound
Well said! I already have a religious faith. I don’t need this one, Thanks anyway! 😂
My take on this video: Anti-racism is Messianism 2.0. Missionaries not dead.
I *am* an alien who has come to earth to study religion, and, yes, I *do* classify Anti-racism as a contemporary secular religion.
There's no such thing as "anti-racism" If you're against racism you're just a normal fucking person. You don't need a label for that😐
Hate or love my comment I am gonna give my opinion, I'm am mixed heritage of native American black and white .... If you are judging anyone off of their skin color or heritage instead of the the content of their character you are a racist no matter how light or dark your skin tone while yes slavery was prominent for a good 400 yrs in America it is something that people seem to forgotten has been prevalent for thousands of years. Most times being within the very same culture and race of people. And honestly is very alive today in child and women trafficking. Just because you say you are against something doesn't mean you don't want to act like it never happened but me myself I was never a part of it being that way..and I'll be damned to let anyone hold something I've never took part in be held over my head cause of the shade of my skin!!
Dude don’t Ibram X Kendi abt he’ll be calling u racist next
@connorhamilton6760
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t let^**
The man in the orange red suit seems really ill at ease...
In other words: "You ain't black" - Joe Biden, future president of Unity -
Satire?
This idea that anti-racism is a religion is now funny after a horned "Shaman" of White Supremacy was part of the group of armed Trump supporters who violently attacked the Capitol building in Washington, D.C. Why should I be concerned about the religion of anti-racism which seeks to help whites recognized that racism and discrimination exists (something Coleman actually agrees with), when state Capitol buildings all over the country are boarding up in fear of attacks from white nationalist militia groups. I agree with like 80% of what Coleman Hughes says. I would label a lot of what he says "progressive", but I don't know why he insists on courting the side that is celebrating the white supremacist ideology. I feel like whenever he talks he says things like "sure racism is a horrible thing and it has some effect on black America in the criminal justice system, but the term systemic racism is a way to forgive actual racists. Systemic racism is racism without the racists" which doesn't debunk systemic racism. It actually suggests whites are more culpable than most conservatives are willing to admit, but conservatives applaud and think he's giving them a reason for not feeling guilty about living in a society where life is clearly harder if you are black (another fact Hughes seems to agree with). Every time I hear him, he seems to largely agree with the Left, but criticizes the Left in some small way, and Conservatives just eat it up and slap him on the back and say, "he's one of us". I end up watching him speak, and re-watching it trying to find the part where he actually debunks Leftist ideas, but he rarely does. What am I not seeing?
anti racist complain abou racisim yet when someone witch is not white is being racist they dont care
Here's a great presentation: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2aAo7qsmae4gLg.html
The problem is that racism must be clarely defined and the definition must not in any way be based feelings. In WW" the Us Military was segreaged, racist. In the navy Black men could serve in non combat roles, basically on board labour and servants. The reasoning was given that Black People do not have adequate night vision, of course this is the very definition of racism A trait that that atributed to a group and that differneces in rights and tratement is based on this attributed trait. in this case it was the attributed "bad nightvision" Now a totally different matter is when a group due a myriade of factors comes out marginalized comared to other groups, becuse now more factors play in and we have to look beyond racism. Furher more most claims of racism when confronted is "feeling based" in evidedence, this is always something someone with the wrong intetions can use. I debunk what you claim, or you failt to provide evidence and I have gaind a supporter to my "bad side" and you lost one from "the good side" here is a anectdotal story about why we need a definition of racism not based on feeling, but fact I was on a soccer game, the home team was leading. the home team had three black players, and the away team had one black player a sitation arose on the filed where the judge did something the home fans reacted to by making "ape" noises the away team player accused the home team fans of being racist to him by making ape noises When consfronted about why he has Decided and Chosen that it had to be directed at him, he could not answer he was then confronted by the home team black players that the "ape" noises were directed at the judge not him and if the home team was racist, then whydid they not make ape noises to them or dircriminate against them? the away team player simply responded with "I FELT it was little bit racist towards me" And there is the problem,
No White Guilt
@indridcole7596
3 жыл бұрын
No white guilt for what?
So I have a question how many black people besides Candace Owens and this do you think will one day actually believe that racism is ok
Cult of the "hashtag woke"
That's not a religion, that's a cult.🤔
😂🔫
Goodness this channel is pro conservative which is fine whatever it's KZread .... But the amount of triggered "snowflake" conservatives even on a channel supporting your views baffles me.
@JonathanFraserMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they’re more of a centrist channel than anything.
The term anti-racist is based on the systemic nature of racism. There isn't a systemic nature to pedophilia, so that's a terrible comparison. The Coates quote is actually saying there isn't a religious moment. It's saying that you can't pinpoint the moment you fell in love, and you can't pinpoint the moment you become conscious of racist underpinnings of society. And lastly...google...tons of articles about the homicide rate for young black men. This is all nonsense...
anti racisim
I want everyone to know I am an anti-pedophile as well as an anti-racist. Any feedback to the virtue I have signalled?
@halofreak1990
4 жыл бұрын
You get +2 virtue points added to your social credit score.
I can’t tell if this is a joke