Oh, man. It is really terrifying when it happens shifting aggressively at high speeds. Yikes!

@LarsErikHel

7 жыл бұрын

You think that's bad? How about having your transmission change back into the lower gear on hard acceleration, while going uphill...

@michor10

7 жыл бұрын

How did that happen? Shifted the wrong way by accident or mechanical failure? That must have been brutal, man.

@LarsErikHel

7 жыл бұрын

MickHornbak It seems my gearbox has such a tight tolerance that it doesn't have false neutrals, rather it likes to shift down if I don't shift it fully

@michor10

7 жыл бұрын

Could it be that your clutch cable is a little too tight?

@LarsErikHel

7 жыл бұрын

It's done it since I started riding in 2013, clutch should have the proper slack

nothing makes me feel more like a noob than a false neutral

@jonfindlay7838

7 жыл бұрын

The difference between noobs and non-noobs of any skill level isn't that non-noobs don't mess up, it's that non-noobs know when they mess up.

@Rises

7 жыл бұрын

xXDownshiftXx This as well as stalling smh lmao

@travvypoo

7 жыл бұрын

xXDownshiftXx I have been a bike owner for 3 weeks now and I have down shifted when I meant to upshift. Not only is this bad for a bike, but it makes you feel like a giant moron.

@Northstar-Media

7 жыл бұрын

Yep! its always better to have your brain in gear before getting on a motorcycle .

@gsig123

7 жыл бұрын

try swapping between a bike with a 5 down gearbox and one with a 1 down 4 up gearbox. that'll do your head in.

How about when it's sometimes so #$%^ hard to get into neutral when you stop, and it's dancing on 1st and 2nd? :)

@bryceshuster6767

4 жыл бұрын

I give it a little throttle and then it'll go. Or move the bike a little forward and back and it'll go

@proelitjump1355

4 жыл бұрын

Thats why before stoping you go into neutral, alaways goes for me

@oldestries

3 жыл бұрын

Your clutch sleeves doesnt disengage far enough to let the transmission fully open. Its also always appear whenever you trying to put it to 1st gear after cold start in the morning. Try different clutch springs or check maybe those are overtightened, myb adjust your clutch cable first before opening whole transmission.

@bodekeys9483

3 жыл бұрын

Ya lmao happens to me all the time

@disbsam333

3 жыл бұрын

Kawasaki has a really nice feature where you can't go into 2nd until you start moving. Makes it so easy to get into neutral.

Motorcycle transmissions are exciting.

@lmikek

7 жыл бұрын

agree

@mxrider2strokebraaap54

7 жыл бұрын

Yes

@MJT-DA

7 жыл бұрын

Yadhu Sasidharan Dude my 07 ninja 250 makes a weird rumble feeling if I shift down to quickly. Also it does not go into first gear unless I throttle the bike at a standing stop..

@B10401

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah I want one in a miata with a liter bike v8. It would probably break but weight reduction breh.

@waynes.2983

7 жыл бұрын

Taijean Moodie your clutch is dragging too much for some reason.

False neutrals are such bullshift.

@johnjones4825

7 жыл бұрын

Called a missed gear in South Africa, sign of an incompetent, mostly learner rider. I haven't missed a gear in 25 years...

@thubelihlezondi5822

7 жыл бұрын

John Jones I'm not a learner, I had a false-neutral two days ago. Experienced riders make mistakes and they definitely get false-neutrals.

@Michael_NV

7 жыл бұрын

Try Ducati Monster R.

@johnstrombowly824

7 жыл бұрын

Nice joke cappamura. Flew right over the Africans head.

@cappamura

7 жыл бұрын

John Strombowly thank you, I was starting to think no one would get it.

Simple: Don’t stab at the gear lever. Apply pressure until the next gear is fully engaged, the clutch is out and you’ve loaded the transmission again, THEN release the shift lever.

That last part with clunking when shifting from neutral is gold! Thanks ari

OMG this video just explained sooo much...thank you for making this for everyone. I've only experienced the false neutrals a few times, and realized that it actually was my fault for not shifting correctly. But the whole clunk thing when shifting into 1st at a stand still has been driving me nuts!!! Such a relief to know that it's not a "bad noise" hahaha

Minarelli AM6: First 50cc engine with 11 gears :D

@akdsjgalksdfjg

5 жыл бұрын

hahaha

@Siuuuuuu22

4 жыл бұрын

Peeveeski on ylimääräsiä

@hanco76

3 жыл бұрын

do all am6 owners have problems with false neutral ?😀

I freakin love this channel...they answer all the weird questions ive always had about riding

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

Ha, that's our goal.

DAMN! I usually don't care for short videos because I figure they'll dance around a topic for 2 mins and say 2 sentences on the topic but holy shit you answered all my questions in 3 mins! 10/10

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

Short and sweet, that's how we roll!

Did it once, quickshifting after a launch. Scared the fuck out of me. Sounded like a gallon of ball bearings in a blender. Haven't done it since then.

@Death666wish

7 жыл бұрын

Did it a few times, sounded like I was in neutral, unless you mean the sound was after you shifted again then I'd say you did something else.

@jordang8730

7 жыл бұрын

Death666wish whenever he shifted the transmission into false neutral in the video, it clunked back and forth between the two gears. the sound of the shifter clunking around is terrifying, and normal for a false neutral. the first time I did it, I'd never heard of it. it sounded so badly I thought my transmission had just said goodbye for good

@Please_Hydrate25

7 жыл бұрын

Jordan Granados Can that happen when you are actually IN neutral? because I was idling my bike once and I heard the same sound and then it slipped in to first and stalled

Suggestion : When you get a false neutral, (as stated) try and get your revs to match your road-speed in the gear you should be in. Then change UP. If you got a false neutral between 4th & 5th, then go for 5th or 6th. Do not go down, whether that's the direction you were headed or not. Reason : there's no major problem if you suddenly find your self in 5th, when you expected 2nd, but there can be a very big problem if you suddenly find yourself in 2nd, when you expected 5th. A gear too high is an inconvenience. A gear too low can be life threatening. First, ride the motorbike - don't hit anything while you're distracted and messing with the gearbox. Second, change up - get in a gear that works, before you worry about getting the right gear. Third, change down and do it properly this time. False neutrals on an up-change are less of a problem, just do it again, and don't let the revs drop too much before you try it...

@um6638

6 жыл бұрын

Kneedragon1962 i accidentally downshift when it false gear, my front sprocket broke.... Broken screw... 😖

@johnrichardson8048

6 жыл бұрын

How are you going to end up 3 gears away from what you were expecting with a sequential transmission? Ya lost me.

@mareksumguy1887

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. He talks rubbish.

@doktorsalami9315

5 жыл бұрын

You explained what I intuitively have been doing anyway. Very cool^^

@Kneedragon1962

4 жыл бұрын

@Jimmy Doran ~ mmm, yeah, or more likely a sign of a slippy left foot.

Brahhhhhh Uhn-brahhhhh Uhn-brahhhhh *BRAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH* Uhn.... _Brahhhh..._

@LeoDeepak

5 жыл бұрын

ShellShock794 future

@highflow6143

4 жыл бұрын

ShellShock794 i felt that hahaha 😂😂

@thatjokerperson7062

4 жыл бұрын

I needa adjust my lever so for me i can never hit 2nd its just me sounding like a dick revving the shit out of my bike over and over before i lose too much speed and give up back to first

@naws69

4 жыл бұрын

bruh

@FranopXD

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha actualy

Everytime I had a false neutral, I thought, "You should look this up." Always instantly forgot. Thanks for the info!

Legitimately could not subscribe fast enough! Me and my wife just got our first bike and I was missing 5>6 and you explained it to the T of what and why .don’t stop,The content helps and is good fast to the point

Finally the "clunk" explained!! I never thought of the fluid drag, but that makes perfect sense to me now. Thank you.

thanks so much for answering common questions of motorcyclists especially newer riders. Keep the great videos coming!

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

Happy to help! We're convinced that the way to develop a strong motorcycling community and lifelong riders is to educate 'em.

Very informative, the last bit about lurching into 1st from N is what I've been searching for. Your videos are finally clearing up all the mystery. Turns out there is nothing wrong with my bike!

Ive been here from 30k subs and i feel so happy to see mc garage increase their reach to other peoples too! genuinely the best motorcycle related channel and straight to the point mc garage is the only creditable motor channel ive seen on youtube! kudos to you guys

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

Thank for sticking with us.

This was so very, very informative. The mechanical guts of motorcycles may not be a sexy topic, but I'm always trying to learn more about my 2 wheel obsession and this transmission series is super great. Thank you for making this!

Great video as usual! I'd really like a MC Garage video on different types of air filter (paper, gauze, foam) and their pro's and con's.

So much content in 3 mins.. Awesome work folks..

Great video as always! Simple and clear explanation, professionally presented without fuss or drama.

Thank you! Especially that clunk into 1st. I always think, "Well, it's the beginning of the end. You were good to me sweetheart, now sleeeeeeeeep." But it's just the damn dogs spinning from fluid friction totally fine no bigs yay!

You guys rock, subscribed!

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

Woohoo! Thanks.

Love the MC garage and all the other MC vids. Keep em comin!

I always wondered why the gear would catch the way it does, thank you for explaining that!

Anybody else love the clunk when shifting to first or is it just me? Lol

gahh thank you for this video, I was freaking out thinking I had a major mechanical issue

i had a lot of calls during falls neutrals especially whenever i hit a banking turn. this vid is actually what i needed just to assess myself during those situations. 😊

you guys are SERIOUSLY helping me to understand so many aspects of motorcycle mechanics!! I thank you eternally PLEASE keep it up. One topic I'm interested in is what is the best braking technique in city commute scenario, and specially when it's raining.... Maybe it's not the topic for this channel but I thought I might suggest it anyway just in case.. CHEERS!!! ALex.

Excellent content as usual, explained simple and on point. Continuing with the transmission topic, what are the benefits of an aftermarket quick shifter for a street bike?

@AiroRider

7 жыл бұрын

Smoother shifts, no need to use your clutch after pulling away (upshifting) and it's just fun.

@Mudux

7 жыл бұрын

For a street bike? None.

@Twinspinner

7 жыл бұрын

N3DD Advantage? Less clutch lever squeezing/no need to blip the throttle when clutchless shifting. That's about it.

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

They're fun (addictive, really) first and foremost, but on the track they allow for quicker shifts with less effort, and that can mean faster lap times.

@slatteea

7 жыл бұрын

Unless you're on the track often I would advise against it. They dont work at low acceleration so it will encourage you to ride faster on the street. Will only encourage a ticket/accident. But if you race they're great!

they actually ARE an intresting topic....I learned ALOT in just 3min here!

This is VERY interesting stuff man! Keep up the series, I love these!

Haven’t had a false neutral, but did wonder about the “cluck.” Not super mechanical, but this cleared it up for me. Thanks for another great video.

I’ve done this once before but luckily I saved it fast enough. But it still hurt me on the inside

Ari for president 2020

@maprow

7 жыл бұрын

Ari for president 2017

That was a good video. Informative, to the point, and lacking in BS. The visual was great. Thanks!

Thanks for posting. I learned a lot within a few video clips. And here I was thinking I already knew what i needed to know. Keep up the good work!

I thought I was crazy lol

@TuAnh-xm3ix

6 жыл бұрын

Carlos Gomez lol

@caruser4

4 жыл бұрын

@Jimmy Doran the first time I ever experienced a false neural it was on my Suzuki 😆

@caruser4

4 жыл бұрын

@Jimmy Doran Idk man I've had three Harleys, two Suzukis, and one Kawasaki. The only one that I've ever gotten a false neutral with is my V-Strom and my Katana. I think I know how to use a transmission and shifter. It's not exactly rocket science 😂

@bsmith9123

3 жыл бұрын

Jimmy Doran just happened on my 2020 ninja 650, maybe because it only has 30 miles on it and it isn’t broken in?

@simdoran8516

3 жыл бұрын

@@bsmith9123 Very rare for a kawasaki to do that When changing gears you have to be positive with the gear lever going up and down the gearbox and that will eliminate any false neutrals.

just came back from my second motorcycle class and the bike stalled even though the panel light said it was on neutral. Then I come home and there is a motorcyclist magazine video explaining exactly what happened and how to avoid. just... magical..

@sFde46

7 жыл бұрын

the neutral light should not be ON, if you're in a false neutral. im might be wrong though.

@johnjones4825

7 жыл бұрын

Correct.

@Death666wish

7 жыл бұрын

No, you were in gear and the bike thought you weren't, that's something else. I actually thought that what happened to you is false neutral, as it looks like it's neutral but it really isn't.

@TheTomco11

7 жыл бұрын

The neutral indicator lies, your instructors may tell you at some point. Some bikes are better than others for this, just an idiosyncrasy of how its designed. My Sv has never given me a false neutral light, but my dad's f650gs does it, and also the light does not always come on in neutral. Simply because the switch for the neutral light isn't located on the selector fork in the gearbox, but on components closer to the lever, so any slop in the movement could mean the switch is triggered before the selector fork moves

@AQS521

6 жыл бұрын

When I took my class they told us to never rely on the neutral light. It has never happened to me, but bikes do sometimes think they're in neutral when they aren't. Anyway, to avoid embarrassment just slowly let out the clutch when the bike says it's in neutral.

Hi guys, Awesome video once again! I have a request: a video about the functioning and effects of steering dampers. Keep rolling those awesome videos out!

Another top notch vid from u guys. Always learning me some new stuff from mc garage!

N doesn’t stand for neutral It stands for NANI!?!

@user-cg9vp9bf5d

5 жыл бұрын

I’m fucking dead

@milan5159

5 жыл бұрын

AHAHAHA NANI?!!!

@el-danihasbiarta1200

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@ruudiutsenikov609

5 жыл бұрын

Yes bcs when u accidently false neutral then u say NANI!!

@elias-nf8qj

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck off

But what's your take on clutchless shifting and engine braking?

thank you for this vid... i hate these bloody false neutrals and had no idea why they happened. this clears it up.

Mind blown! Thanks for explaining this topic and the demonstrations were very helpful. Great job!

I had this happen between 3rd and 2nd gear. I couldnt shift down to first at all, had to shift up, then down to fix it.

@carlosdeleon9593

5 жыл бұрын

Conker The Cat happened to me a few times, so I pulled over when it happened one time and found out that the shift lever was going underneath the foot peg bolt

Maybe your gearbox is from Switzerland

@danocreations

4 жыл бұрын

Why?

@Twiggy163

4 жыл бұрын

@@danocreations seriously?

@danocreations

4 жыл бұрын

@@Twiggy163 I'll delete my comment after you explained so you won't be mad anymore

@danocreations

4 жыл бұрын

@@Twiggy163 then we're gonna act like nothing happened, ok?

@Twiggy163

4 жыл бұрын

@@danocreations Lol, I was just wondering if you realy didnt get the joke. Its fine if you dont, I was expecting a 'no, just poking' response. Onto the explaining bit: Switserland has always remained neutral. First world war, second world war, its not in the EU (leaving a blank spot in the hart of an EU map). Fiercly neutral. Hence the joke: gearbox keeps going into neutral.. must be Swiss. It has cooperated with nations in the past, so that would be the 'false neutral'... I suppose.

Subscribed. You had me by explaining the "thunk" sound when I 1st engage the transmission, thank you so much🙂. I'm totally new to motorcycles, the only one I've ridden beside my bike was the bike I trained on during my MSF course. That bike was 26 years old, and being as I was trying to consume any and all info I was being presented with I really didn't pay a lot of attention to the bike I was riding. Now, anything curious that happens to me I google, since I have no benchmark to compare to. Thanks again

This is good info, even for someone that normally drives a 6spd pickup. I didn't get exactly how motorcycle transmissions work. This really clears up a lot of confusion I had on my first ride.

Question for next videos I always wanted yo ask: Life expectancy of motorcycles. What average milege you can do until your motorcycle becomes junk? Yes I know it very depends on riding style, oil change etc but why some 1000cc bikes like Kawasaki versys can do 300000 km but you rarely see R1 with more that 100000 km. What average engine resource for different types of motorcycles?

@PrevedMedveds

7 жыл бұрын

And how engine size scales with motorcycle lifespan? Does 250cc always lives less that 650cc or 1000cc ?

@jth_1016

7 жыл бұрын

any motorcycle if its japanese will last forever if you take good care of it key to long engine life is complete engine warm up, and clean high quality MOTORCYCLE oil my 2015 fz09 has 40000 miles with no oil burning and pulled 110 hp on the dyno last week

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

That's dependent on SO many factors. How the bike is used and maintained, the conditions it's ridden in, the metallurgy and manufacturing quality...

@akupehsluarketatAR

7 жыл бұрын

bikes in the early days are built to last a long time but im not sure about modern bikes components of today. Seems like parts are outsourced from mainly China.I see newer bikes with frequent electronic parts failing even on Honda. Aint sure if its the hardware itself or just software glitch. Engines are built by the manufacturer though.

@sntslilhlpr6601

7 жыл бұрын

Any bike engine from the major manufacturers will last a long time without needing to be rebuilt if you take care of it (motocross bikes being the exception). The reason you don't see many sportbikes like the R1 with high mileage is because most of them either get crashed and parted out or they just don't get ridden often enough. The Versys is much more likely to be a commuter than an R1, and you're also a lot more likely to crash the R1 in a way that totals it because of the expensive plastic.

bet the blood banks love this guy

@teds4983

5 жыл бұрын

??

@chrisredfield3240

5 жыл бұрын

Is it another motorcyclist organ donors thing. Apparently doctors call us organ donors lol..

Thanks man! Definitely explained what they were called!👌🏻 I knew I wasn’t changing through the gear correctly cause I was lazy,but happy to know that it was me and not my bike dying😂

just watched this coz ive never heard of this happening before always like the full detail in these videos, learned heaps being a new rider from these feeds

Who's going to take over this now ? 😐

could anyone explain in more detail what could be wrong with a transmission that goes out of gear and has very contstant false neutrals between 4th and 5th and 5th and 6th?

@mrtballlv

7 жыл бұрын

Leon possibly gears worn down?

@__Leon__

7 жыл бұрын

i don't know, I have taken this whole bike apart and painted the frame and put a new cilinder on it, but now it has this gear problem. Im guessing ill have to take the blovk apart to find out..

@Crookmk4

7 жыл бұрын

Leon Well trying out a slightly different oil has worked for some people

@__Leon__

7 жыл бұрын

thats a really good tip, ima try that out! thanks

@TheTomco11

7 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you need to take a look at the shift star/arm/spring

I was facing this issue since few days and was seeking help. How come KZread knew what I was looking for!!?? Thank u for this video,it was really helpful.

You are one of the best when it comes to explaining bike stuff simple and superb. keep the vids coming Bro I'm learning new things every time 👍from the uk

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

Great feedback, thanks John. Ride safe.

AM6

@thewilliam2223

6 жыл бұрын

Munkken relatable

@kallecrotts

6 жыл бұрын

Rabasa on se juttu

@aimanechouhaibi169

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@akdsjgalksdfjg

5 жыл бұрын

yup😂😂

Minarelli AM6

@SheIITear

5 жыл бұрын

Bruh

I like videos like this. It helps me out a lot, being that I'm a new rider. Great information. Need more videos, more often!

You guys nail these vids every time, nice job

How to fix this problem: Get rid of am6

@Exicor

4 жыл бұрын

At least they are good quality

@mfnspirdoo

4 жыл бұрын

well would still pick it over rabasa

@Jortsa

4 жыл бұрын

Am6 falseneutrals fucking bullshit and annoying

@jonney3703

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jortsa nii o

BRING BACK THE DREADS

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

Lol. How are we STILL getting these comments? It's been years!

@Death666wish

7 жыл бұрын

2012 Fireblade was the first review I saw you in, you must've changed a size or two for your helmets after the haircut haha.

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

Dude, that was the second ever episode of OTW. I didn't even know I was going to be on film, I thought the video guys were just there to shoot onboard. Crazy how far we come. If I watched that review now I think I'd wince the whole way through!

@Death666wish

7 жыл бұрын

hehehe, made me sub right away. Keep up the good work! Couldn't find the video just now though.

Your channel is so informative! Thanks for the explanations. Subbed

They're exiting enough!! Love this stuff. Keep it up.

Brilliant videos, really useful. Keep up the good work & thank you 👍

Great video. I love the visual aids, really helps understand what's going on

Loving watching your channel! It’s like engineering explained but for motorcycles

So many answers in 3 minutes. Well done!

Thanks for this video. I have been driving stick cars since I can remember, and the new noises that motorcycle gear box makes always made me think I was doing something wrong. I am understanding more about the mechanics now after your and few other videos.

good job Ari, I'm a new to rideing, and I find these videos provide essential info , and help make me a safe rider.

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

That's great to hear, that's why we make them in the first place.

This is a great video, i have a shifter moped and i was already wondering why i mis shifted some times. Thanks for the great video!

Lots of great info on this channel,thanks.

MC Garage has helped me learn so much about the bikes that i love. Thank you MCG!!

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Another thumbs up. About time for an "outtakes" video. :)

Always impressed by the quality of your content. Keep it up!

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe, we're happy you appreciate it.

Another awesome video to help understand what's going on.

Your channel is most informative..!!

Thanks Ari! these three four five minute explanations are great and really have helped me learn a lot about my bike

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

That's great to hear. Thanks for watching.

Thank you so much for this video. Thought my transmission was giving up on me!

Best place for interesting videos always entertaining...keep up the great work!

amazing video, bro hope you make some more of these. Greetings from Colombia

Thanks a lot! This video helped me a lot about my shifting habit on my zx10r.

thanks for the help Ari this kind of videos is great for new riders or me who dont know much about the inside of my bike ::)

This doesn't happen very often but when it does its always coming to a stoplight that turns green before I come to a full stop. Very informative video.

Very useful video. Thank you!

Thank you for this video. I completed the MSF course today and had this happen a couple times from 1st to 2nd or 2nd to 1st and it was driving me nuts because it was like I was in neutral but the bike wasn't saying it was so I wasn't sure what to do. I eventually worked it out in my head that I must not be engaging the part of the shifting process enough(clutch in this case) and stopped doing it but this is helpful as a visual aid of what's going on.

As always the content and presentation of your videos is first class. Congrats on a great channel !

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kris, hopefully you've subscribed.

Great video......first time I went into a false neutral it scared the crap out of me I was in between 5th and 6th

Thank you for the help. It's nice to know, to understand now. Thank you for the lesson.

This is fantastic. Thank you I am enlightened !

thx. .. another awesome video ... and it put a lot of my questions to rest

Such a simple explanation, thanks.

from basic infos to critical ones. good work!

Thanks a lot for the information.... and Great job with the explanation.

This was a great information. Motorcycle transmission is always a great topic.

Once again another amazing video on something I always wanted to know. And simple enough for me to understand.

@AriH211

7 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it Gabriel.