What's the tone difference between a 4X12, 2X12 and 1X12?

Phil McKnight and I sit down & shoot out four vintage 30 loaded Harley Benton Cabinets!
4X12: bit.ly/2H7wLaT
2X12 Vertical: bit.ly/2X0jwxU
2X12: bit.ly/2MGRSps
1X12: bit.ly/2H6v0uw
...and don't forget to watch Phil's show!
Loaner cabs provided by Thomann
/ @phillipmcknight
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  • @mile0141
    @mile01415 жыл бұрын

    can we get an "audio was not recorded by spectresoundstudios" tshirt?

  • @gilbertspader7974

    @gilbertspader7974

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mile0 Great idea

  • @adamfox9651

    @adamfox9651

    5 жыл бұрын

    "This t-shirt NOT designed by Spectre Sound Studios "

  • @la666e

    @la666e

    5 жыл бұрын

    “This is not a Fugazi tshirt”

  • @floridapunkarchivist

    @floridapunkarchivist

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm ordering a few hopefully he won't pull a Gibson

  • @Brandon-qg8sg

    @Brandon-qg8sg

    5 жыл бұрын

    great idea lmao

  • @gbirdo4718
    @gbirdo47185 жыл бұрын

    Really cool you got Billy Corgan on the show Glen.

  • @MK-oz2lf
    @MK-oz2lf5 жыл бұрын

    1x12 3:13 2x12 H 3:25 2x12 V 3:43 4X12 4:00 2x12 V & 4x12 6:21

  • @cougar231000

    @cougar231000

    4 жыл бұрын

    2x12V the best

  • @kesamek8537
    @kesamek85375 жыл бұрын

    Huge practical value in videos like this, thank you very much.

  • @SpectreSoundStudios

    @SpectreSoundStudios

    5 жыл бұрын

    You’re very welcome!

  • @CooperAATE

    @CooperAATE

    5 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the horizontal 2×12

  • @hoboroadie

    @hoboroadie

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not to discount the entertainment value there. I found Phil McKnight very humorous in this live event and the banter was even better than a solo presentation.

  • @Lawrence330

    @Lawrence330

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CooperAATE I'm with you. I have a 212 combo that I've been wanting to split into a head and cab. I think it'll be much wider than the vertical 212 they demo. I'd be skeptical of leaving my head hanging off both sides like that.

  • @desolateguitarist

    @desolateguitarist

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​@@SpectreSoundStudios got the zombie and it cranked loud enough for full metal practice but I had to get the katana 212 cab cuz the 4ohm cab blew my kat head ( 8ohms) is it even much louder ? I gotta wait 2 weeks to get back my kat head ugh

  • @metal_helm
    @metal_helm5 жыл бұрын

    I love that video where Phil tells his floyd rose guitar that at night he looks at pictures of hard-tailed guitars on line LOL

  • @gilbertspader7974

    @gilbertspader7974

    5 жыл бұрын

    Helm of the Anti-lemon I dreamed of smashing my Jackson model 6 till I half blocked it !!!!!

  • @metal_helm

    @metal_helm

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@gilbertspader7974 I hear ya. I've kind of been documenting my journey with this frustration on my own channel. Not ready to give up though, I wanna be able to use that whammy bar as much as I want!

  • @Kiirxas

    @Kiirxas

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don’t get why people hate floating bridges so much. Ok, it did take me a while to set it up properly, but now I only have to really tune it once per string change, the rest is really minor tuning tweaks once every 3-4 days. Also, the way they react when bending is just amazing

  • @metal_helm

    @metal_helm

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Kiirxas YMMV though right? I had a horrible time with mine, I changed the spring configuration it has helped a lot with tuning stability though not perfect. Also mine is a license/special which makes a difference as opposed to an original.

  • @Kiirxas

    @Kiirxas

    5 жыл бұрын

    Helm of the Anti-lemon mine is an ibanez edge zero II. And from what I’ve heard and also tried, a well set up floyd rose can take just as much abuse, even if it’s licensed. It’s a pain in the ass to get “right” tho, I’ll give you that

  • @CarlosKTCosta
    @CarlosKTCosta5 жыл бұрын

    The more time passes the more I love vertical cabs! The vertical 2x12 sounds amazing.

  • @alecmullaney7957

    @alecmullaney7957

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have an old Carvin BRX212 which has a downward firing 12", it's f*ing magical

  • @martingreschner3268

    @martingreschner3268

    Жыл бұрын

    If I put the horizontal Harley Benton cabinet 2x12 vertically, isn't it the same?

  • @CarlosKTCosta

    @CarlosKTCosta

    Жыл бұрын

    @@martingreschner3268 almost 100% yes. Some vertical 2x12 have the top cone tilted slightly upwards so you hear it better than if it’s pointing forward

  • @Kiirxas
    @Kiirxas5 жыл бұрын

    As a girl who just bought a horizontal hb 2x12: that cab is reaaaaally amazing when you dial in your tone right, say whatever you want, but it’s not just a good cab. That paired with a marshal dsl20 head and a couple of pedals can really create “my ultimate tone”. They might both be cheap, but that thrashy but still defined tone you can get with them paired is perfect for me and my type of music. I love the tone I get so much that if I record an album any time soon I’ll just bring my amp and cab to the studio

  • @Holtenstein

    @Holtenstein

    5 жыл бұрын

    Plus the horizontal 2x12, (I bought 2 of them), has a stereo option whereas the vertical one does not!

  • @smoreshaunted

    @smoreshaunted

    5 жыл бұрын

    What pedals you using?? I just like a plain TS9 for a boost usually

  • @Kiirxas

    @Kiirxas

    5 жыл бұрын

    Haunted Smores I use a dunlop crybaby original, it’s not true bypass, so it colors the tone a little bit. I also have a couple others, but they don’t affect my tone at all when turned off (I only use them for clean sounds)

  • @smoreshaunted

    @smoreshaunted

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Kiirxas Dope!! I've honestly never owned a wah before but I would like one for some old studio tricks like using a cocked wah for certain bass tracks.(Learned that from watching Warren Huart) Brendon Small constantly preaches about the Dimebag wah for it's gentle oscillation, I guess some wahs tend to get a little too quacky!

  • @alistairhomewood7344

    @alistairhomewood7344

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have literally been looking at this with a Marshall dsl20h, thanks for this comment, this solidified me using this 2x12 over Marshall's ar212 which has celestion 70 80s

  • @MrMoriarek
    @MrMoriarek4 жыл бұрын

    55 seconds in and Glenn already shouting at people wasting his time! Already love it! Also loving Plillip McKnight for all his work - best video I could come upon this Friday evening!

  • @diegoambrosio9121
    @diegoambrosio91213 жыл бұрын

    3:11 - 1x12 3:24 - Horizontal 2x12 3:42 ; 4:51 - Vertical 2x12 3:59 - 4x12 6:21 - Vertical 2x12 + 4x12 Question: is Mesa capitalizing on the brand, i.e. the cabinets are good, but not so much to cost a ton?

  • @Tsiguel
    @Tsiguel5 жыл бұрын

    Regarding road worthiness, I've been gigging my 1x12 for around 5 years and the only thing that was damaged was the tolex so pretty sturdy too!

  • @jacee8094
    @jacee80945 жыл бұрын

    They all still sound really good period. It doesn’t get better than this, these guys are like the Schecter of cabs!

  • @stevengroetken164
    @stevengroetken1645 жыл бұрын

    2 out of 3 of my favorite guitar youtubers. Now only if Dan from Guns n Guitars could get in. Phil picks materials and components, Dan builds the guitar, amp and cab and Glen gives the honest review.

  • @Mark-zi6nt
    @Mark-zi6nt5 жыл бұрын

    Glenn, i got a 2x12 by Harley Benton, you included it somewhere in the description, thank you very much for this!

  • @Mark-zi6nt

    @Mark-zi6nt

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's me again. Yes, it's still great and I'm looking to get a horizontal one as well due to better sound dispersion!

  • @KidNato
    @KidNato5 жыл бұрын

    How much does it cost me to import that sweet running water sound from the background?

  • @fartsniffer1251
    @fartsniffer12515 жыл бұрын

    Phil and Glenn is the ultimate pro wrestling tag team champions! We need more collaborations between you two, please!

  • @Terrible_Peril
    @Terrible_Peril5 жыл бұрын

    Two of my favorite dudes. I’ve always been a 1x12” fan. Most guitarists I know are into the 4x12 but not me

  • @blutaxtmalta8606
    @blutaxtmalta86065 жыл бұрын

    Great! Been lately looking at Harley Benton cabs but did not find any honest reviews, thanks!

  • @magnusbruce4051
    @magnusbruce40515 жыл бұрын

    Funnily enough, I was looking at HB cabs last night and thought that the vertical 2x12 would be a good option for cost and being practical to take to places so I'm glad it's got some serious approval from you guys. I'm looking to get a new and fairly cheap practice/recording setup in the next few months as I'll have a load of time to finally finish the two albums I've been working on for years. Thanks to your advice, I'm pretty adamant that I'm going to re-record everything and do it better.

  • @jeffallen3382

    @jeffallen3382

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did you end up getting the cabinet? How was it?

  • @magnusbruce4051

    @magnusbruce4051

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffallen3382 I did, yes. I found it to be very good and feels remarkably well built for the money. The speakers can be a little honky at times but on the plus side, the ability to easily remove the front grille means it's very easy to get your mic placement.

  • @jeffallen3382

    @jeffallen3382

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@magnusbruce4051 thank you!

  • @bearshark85
    @bearshark855 жыл бұрын

    Two of my favs in one awesome video!! This was amazing.

  • @45scienceproject
    @45scienceproject3 жыл бұрын

    How did I not find this before now!? I love both of these channels.

  • @MikeLute
    @MikeLute5 жыл бұрын

    Glenn, if you are invited to TGU20, first thing i would suggest is to film a "how to record audio for youtube" tutorial with the audio guys from Thomann.....

  • @peterschmidt9942
    @peterschmidt99425 жыл бұрын

    I bought one of their cheaper 2x12 cabinets about 18 months ago to try out and it sounds fine. I got a guitar sent to Australia as well with it - the guitar rocked up in about 3 weeks, the cabinet came about 10 days later (same shipping number). At that time, we didn't have GST on imports but I'd say you'd have to pay it when you pick it up now.

  • @immortalgram
    @immortalgram Жыл бұрын

    Nice seeing Phil on the show! The vertical HB is awesome!

  • @reeread
    @reeread5 жыл бұрын

    I like taking 2 of these 4x12’s run in stereo full blast @ 11. They make great headphones!

  • @guitarsean
    @guitarsean5 жыл бұрын

    I used a vertical 2x12 (Sonic) for years. It was a smaller cab than the HB, actually half a 4x12. Loved it, and it was easier to haul than a 4x12

  • @wckoek
    @wckoek11 ай бұрын

    As a player, 4x12 sounded bassier and a lot more sound, but as a listener from a distance I am often surprised that 2x12 sounded warmer where 4x12 usually sounded brighter and more stringent.

  • @chrisferrara190
    @chrisferrara1905 жыл бұрын

    That 2x12 upright sounds killer. I think one may be a Christmas present for myself this year.

  • @senspartech3533
    @senspartech35335 жыл бұрын

    For the price, I got the 2x12 out of curiosity and have been amazed by it. The v30s are what youd think theyd be, but the cab itself is a helluva lot nicer than I ever expected. Hell, even the shipping speed was great. I really dont know how they did it, even with high volumes. Thomann is killing it on so many levels. Kinda wish Guitar Center would take note.. Or.. Maybe have Thomann move a shit ton of stores to the states :D

  • @honeyfrost3355
    @honeyfrost33555 жыл бұрын

    Always good to do tone comparisons.

  • @hoboroadie
    @hoboroadie5 жыл бұрын

    I felt that the Mesa 2x12 in your previous video presented more of the vital low end that we get ceramic magnet speakers for than the Harley Benton. For my purpose the Vintage 30s could populate a very large 2x12 box I got from the 70s and that HB box could be used to test the sound of some AlNiCo blues in a closed-back box (an experiment I've been working on). BTW the price with shipping of a Marshall 4x12 from Thomann is something I intend to avail myself of before my President outlaws it. 🤘 Thanks Glenn.

  • @coobanez777
    @coobanez7775 жыл бұрын

    Very cool to hear that they are front-loaded cabinets! That's an excellent feature and major design difference from Mesa cabs.

  • @therifflair724

    @therifflair724

    2 жыл бұрын

    Care to explain your reasoning behind front vs rear?

  • @Holtenstein
    @Holtenstein5 жыл бұрын

    FYI! The vertical slant 2x12 cab is Mono and the straight regular 2x12 is stereo! Ordered two 2x12 straight cabs today for my stereo setup. I like the option of running only one cab in stereo when on a smaller stage.

  • @ccchicken8889
    @ccchicken88895 жыл бұрын

    2 great guys that help us all out. Thanks! And as soon as I figure out what decently priced metal-ish amp I can afford, I think I'll be getting this vertical 2x12 :)

  • @CriticalElixer

    @CriticalElixer

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dumb. The horizontal has stereo

  • @pbrug_1667

    @pbrug_1667

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CriticalElixer you only use stereo if you are connecting two heads. So it’s not dumb it’s preference.

  • @OliverAmberg
    @OliverAmberg5 жыл бұрын

    Harley Benton everywhere. The Thomann campus is taking it's toll.

  • @missesmew

    @missesmew

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’m jumping in, great company for us mortals! 👊🏾

  • @MaxMiller614
    @MaxMiller6144 жыл бұрын

    They sound NASTY!!! Good job guys. Loved the 2x12 horizontal

  • @NivanSharma
    @NivanSharma5 жыл бұрын

    Dude thank you so much for this video. I wanted to watch this video for awhile

  • @stevekaufmann8109
    @stevekaufmann81094 жыл бұрын

    Phil's the man thanks for having him on

  • @sski
    @sski5 жыл бұрын

    I'm really liking that 2x12 vertical. Even with the 'guess work' sound, I can tell it's got some punchy lower mid stuff going on. I may have to check into this one further.

  • @crismaldonado2258
    @crismaldonado22585 жыл бұрын

    The 2x12 sounds amazing! It gave my crappy crate gt1200H a more beefy sound and definition and it made my randall rx120rh sound even more clear, all with the stock china speakers

  • @Stefan-
    @Stefan-5 жыл бұрын

    I have the horisontal 2x12 cab myself since 10 years or so, its crazy good value, 16mm plywood, metal handles and corners (Marshall uses plastic for example), now you also get free shipping to Sweden where i live when you buy for over 199€ without any weight limit, otherwise 10€ flat rate shipping. When i started bouying from Thomann in about 2006 they had flat rate shipping for 15€ and no free shipping at all.

  • @metalgarri4194
    @metalgarri41945 жыл бұрын

    I went to Thomann few months back to buy a cab, cause I wanted to try all 1x12 in person before buying...I tried harley benton, Mesa, Engl, Orange, Marshall, all with a 5150 II 50W... Ended up buying the Engl pro cab without any shadow of a doubt. If you are on a budget maybe consider it, but otherwise try them against other stuff, cause it's not only the speaker itself that matters... Cheers

  • @maxwellwinter2114
    @maxwellwinter21145 жыл бұрын

    i bought the 1x12 a few months ago and its the real deal! im gonna get the vertical 2x12 or 4x12. Also like Phil didnt have a problem, just showed up at my doorstep.

  • @mercilessforever
    @mercilessforever Жыл бұрын

    This vid helped me seal the deal on a 2x12. Put a dv77 next to the v30 after it was broken in….amazing tone. Sound great when mic’d up. A little different tone than a mesa cab but still f’n brutal and lighter!

  • @hacksaw_jeffery6664
    @hacksaw_jeffery66645 жыл бұрын

    great video! more like this please.

  • @BowserSpaceLaser
    @BowserSpaceLaser5 жыл бұрын

    I weirdly have been into 1x12s recently. Got one out of necessity due to a move and just for ease of playing smaller gigs, but I now think I actually prefer 1x12s nowadays. Never would have guessed!

  • @transitoryrecords9045
    @transitoryrecords90455 жыл бұрын

    Buying a 4 12 cab this week!!!!! I have a Laney 120 irt. I was holding out on getting the Laney cab, so glad to know I can can get a fully loaded cab with Vintage 30s for 400 USD DOLLARS.... WOW!!! SOLD!!!!!

  • @trashboy9517
    @trashboy95175 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait to get myself a 2x12 Harley Benton Cab!

  • @AntmanFelix

    @AntmanFelix

    5 жыл бұрын

    Vertical or Horizontal?

  • @trashboy9517

    @trashboy9517

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@AntmanFelix I like the vertical version

  • @AntmanFelix

    @AntmanFelix

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@trashboy9517 Cool! Hope you enjoy it. I might have to get one of these as well

  • @IllusionaryFuneral

    @IllusionaryFuneral

    5 жыл бұрын

    I got myself a horizontal one and it’s awesome for the price.

  • @AntmanFelix

    @AntmanFelix

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@IllusionaryFuneral I'm thinking of a horizontal one as well. Something for my JVM205

  • @SebBrosig
    @SebBrosig5 жыл бұрын

    make sure you use "tone chalk" when you mark the mic position on the grille cloth!

  • @JodyParsons
    @JodyParsons5 жыл бұрын

    My favorite was the horizontal 2x12. But I also have a soft spot for 212s because I run a Mesa Lonestar 2x12 with black shadows.

  • @SC4211
    @SC42115 жыл бұрын

    You have any thoughts on Harley Benton's alternate 1x12 cab, the one that isn't vintage? The price is a little bit cheaper, but it catches my eye because the vintage 30 sound was never really my favorite.

  • @jorgiewtf
    @jorgiewtf4 жыл бұрын

    I feel like such a sucker for having bought the amp/cab jubilee combo on Sweetwater for 900 bucks a year ago. I will be ordering these from now on!

  • @taunoctua245
    @taunoctua2454 жыл бұрын

    I got the 2x12 horizontal. Love it! Love those Ibanez guitars too!

  • @Mcsteveberry
    @Mcsteveberry4 жыл бұрын

    its great to see you guys

  • @wilhelmtheconquerer6214
    @wilhelmtheconquerer62145 жыл бұрын

    Imagine the vertical 2x12 with the joyo mjolnir, that would be amazing!

  • @tiptizlode4995
    @tiptizlode49953 жыл бұрын

    Hi Glenn, great video! I use an 80 watt solid state amp modelling combo, the Roland Cube 80XL. I want to add an extension cab to it, to fatten up the tone and add base, would the 1 x 12, 2 x 12 horizontal, or the 2 x 12 vertical add more body / base to the sound? The 4 x 12 would be too big for me. Thank you in advance.

  • @TheAxe4Ever
    @TheAxe4Ever4 жыл бұрын

    Glenn, I have a question. I don’t know if you ever addressed this or not, but what are your thoughts about removing the casters from a 4X12 cab after you set up live or in the studio? My casters pop in and out and I swear once I took them off, my tone improved a lot. Even the Overdrive seemed to kick a bit more. I actually wound up dialing back the gain a little when I set the cab directly in the floor. Did I really notice the difference? Or was it confirmation bias since I was expecting a change? I know this is an old video, but figured it would be the right video to ask this question.

  • @briansnyder3405
    @briansnyder3405 Жыл бұрын

    Grabbing a pair of the vertical 2x12's once I get back to work, it's a smoking deal and I can leave my port city's at home when I gig. Perfect.

  • @mrfiend1293
    @mrfiend12935 жыл бұрын

    What about putting a horizontal cab on its side to make it more vertical amd vice versa?

  • @unfcknblvbl
    @unfcknblvbl5 жыл бұрын

    I have both the vertical and horizontal 2 X 12 - well worth the wait for shipping to the US.

  • @metalgear4199

    @metalgear4199

    4 жыл бұрын

    Unfcknblvbl hello. Which one would you recommend?. I have found the horizontal one second hand for 140$ and thinking to use it in vertical position. Does it make sense to you?. Thanks!

  • @marcolucchin9391
    @marcolucchin93915 жыл бұрын

    Well I was debating buying a 1x12 v 2x12 and now that I’ve seen this video. This was the perfect video for me rn.

  • @putridabomination
    @putridabomination5 жыл бұрын

    I've been needing an amp and cabinet, so these help. Man these KZreadrs meet up a lot. I'm kinda jealous. Hahaha \m/

  • @stephentyree9296
    @stephentyree92965 жыл бұрын

    I have a Boss Katana head, and the horizontal 212 Harley Benton cab, and it’s a heck of a portable, decent sounding rig. Seriously, pick up one of these cabs.

  • @JoeStuffz
    @JoeStuffz5 жыл бұрын

    Now I'm wondering if you can use more than 1 mic at the same time. One of them right at the fabric, one a few inches from it. Maybe you can sneak a mic inside the cloth

  • @kevinfox8920
    @kevinfox89205 жыл бұрын

    We already seen this video Glenn 😂😂😂 still love those cabs though

  • @earlycuyler2295
    @earlycuyler22955 жыл бұрын

    I still swear by a 2x12 combo + a 2x12 cab. Just such a super versitile rig.from studio, bedroom, small gigs to decent sized shows. you can practice with your actual tone, or knock the paint off the walls at a dive bar...and at big shows its awesome to be able to use your amp as a monitor.Im drooling over a matchless but ill probably end up getting a katanna.

  • @AMSOfficial79
    @AMSOfficial795 жыл бұрын

    Here is a reasonable question.... part of producing a good sound, in the studio or live, is assuring that the frequencies from various instruments don't conflict with one another in the mix. So, would recording and gigging with a 2x12 make more sense because it would be easier to remove the low-end mud frequencies that get in the way of making the low end frequencies you want (bass guitar/kick drum) stand out?

  • @marksadventures3889
    @marksadventures38895 жыл бұрын

    Phil's who makes your guitar video is top draw - a must watch.

  • @JOETIBBS83
    @JOETIBBS834 жыл бұрын

    What is shipping time to like central US ??? I'm very intrested in a Harley Benton 4x12

  • @FairyCRat
    @FairyCRat5 жыл бұрын

    As a European, it feels like a no-brainer for me to seriously consider buying one of those.

  • @purpled4864

    @purpled4864

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same, dude

  • @SalAveNU
    @SalAveNU5 жыл бұрын

    I ordered an acoustic bass from Harley Benton. There's been a problem with shipping it's been 3 weeks and it's not here yet. The Harley Benton folks seem to be doing all they can. It's a bummer because I have a recording of an acoustic arrangement of Ryan Adam's "New York, New York" that's on hold until it comes.

  • @David-cb9ec
    @David-cb9ec5 жыл бұрын

    I was waiting for a video like about a long time Can you make a video about using direferents mic interfaces (quality, price) while recording cabinets

  • @SydneyDrums
    @SydneyDrums4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I’ve noticed a rash on my left arm & swollen thumbs .. do you think I have scratchy pots? worried

  • @SNDTEK1
    @SNDTEK15 жыл бұрын

    Aquired a Randall 1-12 ISO Cab with a 30 watt Celestion green back in it.........I have a SM57 in the goosemount and can get it right up next to the cone or back it off if I want.....been having really good luck with getting a good solid guitar sound from it.

  • @luckymadrigal7062
    @luckymadrigal70624 жыл бұрын

    Hey glen. Have you got that Harley bentan vertical 212 yet? Would love to see you shoot it out against other cabs and to see you mic it up without the grill on. And just wondering, why didn't you get that 212 first instead of the horizontal one you got?

  • @paulapplewhite6135
    @paulapplewhite61354 жыл бұрын

    Hey Glenn, if I'm using a cab just for recording, does a 2 x 12 offer any benefit over a 1 x 12? Especially if I'm only micing up one speaker, does the cab size make a big difference?

  • @slavesforging5361
    @slavesforging53615 жыл бұрын

    lol. i actually do take the grill cloth off all my cabs. except my Panama which comes with removal grill cloths. didn't know that about the horizontal HB cab! would save me some mod work on my next cab!

  • @GeoffBosco
    @GeoffBosco5 жыл бұрын

    I was kind of expecting but was still surprised that difference between the three wasn't larger than it was on to "tape".

  • @stranger5088
    @stranger50885 жыл бұрын

    See now I’ve got to save up for the 2x12 vertical cab.

  • @lobsterbark
    @lobsterbark4 жыл бұрын

    Well, I'm glad I bought the horizontal 2x12. I got it cuz it was the only one in stock at the time, but judging by this video it's the one I would have preferred anyways.

  • @paulshaum3421
    @paulshaum34214 жыл бұрын

    Can you shoot one of those out with a laney in the same price? Or hell, just a bunch of 4x12’s in the same price point?

  • @tamartin64
    @tamartin645 жыл бұрын

    Thomann Music carries a selection of amp and cab cases. So someone who plays live has the option of buying a case to go along with their cab. It may cost as much as the cab, but it's probably a better expenditure than having to pay full retail to for a replacement cab or amp.

  • @cfh13
    @cfh133 жыл бұрын

    Two days ago I bought (my last amp head) a Mark V 90w head & realized i need a new better cab for it. I like the vertical one a lot but no stereo capability is the one thing holding me from ordering this week. Might not even use that feature but its better to have and not need than to need and not have. Still on the fence. Vertical is not in stock atm so i have time. The Mark V is FUCKING killer by the way. Only added a 12 band eq to the fx loop and it is a BEAST. I haven't been this happy playing guitar in a very long time.

  • @atozee1500
    @atozee15005 жыл бұрын

    Loving that hiss. You definitely cleared my sinus.

  • @ColtraneTaylor

    @ColtraneTaylor

    3 жыл бұрын

    Other cabs make your nose bleed.

  • @endtimeguitarist
    @endtimeguitarist5 жыл бұрын

    The 2x12 horizontal sounded better on that lower cord than the 4x12. When you skip from @3:27 to @4:01 the 4x12 is muddy. I’ve heard of how it’s always best to work with excess though since you can always cut it down versus trying to boost something that’s not there (ie:2x12). I’d like it for special purposes where I’d want that THUD. For the rest between the 4x12 was like whoa haha

  • @JayPDeath

    @JayPDeath

    5 жыл бұрын

    The vertical 2x12 sounded the muddiest to me. I think had to do with mic placement because it's so different than the more mid sounding horizontal 2x12. 4x12 seemed to fall between those two. Anyway that's what I hear.

  • @mlgnews115
    @mlgnews1154 жыл бұрын

    Homestly just based off this I’d wanna take the vertical 2x12 with maybe a joyo zombie or a dark terror into maybe like a line 6 fire hawk for fx as my first ever live rig I feel like that would be a decent combo of utility tome and affordability

  • @Blaze_1221
    @Blaze_1221 Жыл бұрын

    I’m saving to run an EVH Iconic and I was going to get the 2x12 but I think the Iconic is too big for the cab so I’m going with. 4x12, it’s bigger and I like the bass response better

  • @OlliLappalainen
    @OlliLappalainen5 жыл бұрын

    Glenn, what is your recommendation for a mic set to buy for home drum recording? Thomann sells Shure sets with SM57s, AKG set with P4s, t.Bone sets with DC 4000s.. price ranges like up to 800$ maybe.

  • @MrAllister9
    @MrAllister95 жыл бұрын

    i have a peavy 4x12 and Bugera head and honestly im not that happy with it compared to my older marshall valvestate 232 2x12 .... What head would work better with the peavy stack does anyone know?

  • @Mistabutts
    @Mistabutts3 жыл бұрын

    4 x 12 was my favourite but the vertical 2 x 12 was a close second. Would be happy with any of em to be fair

  • @metal_helm
    @metal_helm5 жыл бұрын

    no link to Phil's channel...

  • @rk28984
    @rk289845 жыл бұрын

    A while ago I built my own oversized 2x12 closed back cab. From experience I can say my DIY 2x12 sounds better than 90% of all 4x12s I ever played. The best sounding cab I ever played was a Hiwatt 4x12 with Fane speakers, but that cab costs around 3k.

  • @RedHeadGuitar
    @RedHeadGuitar5 жыл бұрын

    Vertical oversized 2x12s rock! The best compromise I guess. I've built a rock solid one from a TubeTown kit. 4x12s are kinda unnecessary these days imho. All they do is beating up your back. Even on bigger stages...stuff is miked up anyways.. Thanks for the video! Definitely confirms my opinion...I sometimes wondered if I should get a 4x12, 'cause like a friend said "2x12s are not heavy metal!!!" No buddy, just no.

  • @viclick122
    @viclick1225 жыл бұрын

    I really liked the sound of the 4×12 with the vertical 2×12 at the same time. But then again... I'm listening on TV speakers... If you wanna call them "speakers"... I think they needed even more of that low end in the source to actually give the sound some breadth.

  • @koala2581
    @koala25815 жыл бұрын

    Is this a reupload? I feel like i have already seen this video before

  • @michellelehky2374

    @michellelehky2374

    5 жыл бұрын

    This feels like a second version,but yeah, this has been up before.

  • @CyberChrist

    @CyberChrist

    5 жыл бұрын

    The "Audio was NOT recorded by SpectreSoundStudio might sound a bit familiar :P

  • @ZackSeifMusic

    @ZackSeifMusic

    5 жыл бұрын

    He has multiple videos from Thomann. This is from this summer though.

  • @gilbertspader7974

    @gilbertspader7974

    5 жыл бұрын

    Is this the recomment ? I feel like I have already read this comment before

  • @SeePayne81

    @SeePayne81

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Tone King did the same video. DIfferent guitar player though

  • @mikemitchell7529
    @mikemitchell75295 жыл бұрын

    Great informative video Glen, as someone who enjoys both your channels, I would like to see more videos with you and Phil in the future. Cheers from NZ

  • @Mr_Matthews
    @Mr_Matthews3 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know for sure if the 4 x 12 speakers are Front Loaded or Rear Loaded? I can't find any info on the Thomman site.

  • @Antonio_Ortiz
    @Antonio_Ortiz2 жыл бұрын

    Any tips on converting the amp's power plug to work with a US power outlet?

  • @BrianBower
    @BrianBower5 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing. I am looking at buying a Harley Benton cab for jamming with others when i don't have a PA.

  • @216trixie

    @216trixie

    5 жыл бұрын

    Huh?

  • @BrianBower

    @BrianBower

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@216trixie Ahh I forgot to mention I use a Kemper. Make more sense now?

  • @pedrogarciarobleto
    @pedrogarciarobleto10 ай бұрын

    I'm guessing that they preferred the vertical 2x12 in the room due to the top speaker pointing to them and having better monitoring, however, from the video, I feel like the horizontal has better top end and mid definition, and the vertical kinda sounds too bassy, and poorly defined, does someone else feel the same? What are your thoughts Glenn?

  • @guitarguy951
    @guitarguy9515 жыл бұрын

    Hey Glenn, was this recorded by spectre sound studios?