Just watched this again. As I am now quite experienced with a T120, after nearly a couple of years, I have to say this is a very good video: your comments are spot on.

@TheMissendenFlyer

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Pete - much appreciated!

TMF - Your usual great job! Excellent video & audio quality in addition to the substance. This review will be very helpful to the many people who are on the fence between the T100 & T120. Nice work!

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+BobC777 Thanks Bob - I hope so!

What superb reviews...been following a couple on the T120 as it's on my horizon to replace my lately written off Norge. Very impressed, thank you.

@TheMissendenFlyer

5 жыл бұрын

Very kind of you to say so Laurie - thanks...

I shall be watching your long term experiences of the T120 with great interest; I'm sorely tempted. Great stuff as ever chap, ride safe :)

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

It is a lovely bit of kit Dave, very sad that I had to take it back to the Triumph factory today - trip only made slightly sweeter by having to rescue my Panigale from there (being held hostage as collateral against the T120)...my long term review should be posted Wednesday August the 2nd - impressive this upload schedule I have eh? :0)

Excellent review , my new T120 green and white new colour scheme is arriving in a couple of weeks and I can't wait to ride it . My first bike was a Triumph speed twin back in 1969 .This video is the next best thing to actually riding and has good quality pictures and sensible comments . Well done .

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Philip D Thanks Philip and great choice of bike - congratulations and enjoy!

Great video I’ve just gone and purchased one for myself ,reliving the past all the best 👍🇬🇧

@nobody3279

3 жыл бұрын

How the ride so far?

An excellent review full of detail and good camera work, enjoyed it Top work Flyer

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you :0)

Want to improve the feel of T-100 brakes? Ride a 1960's model for a while. lol.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Hehe, like it....great tip!

@petewielsma423

6 жыл бұрын

I hear ya mate lol , own a 71 T150 since 1996 , great bike but yep , goes like hell but when ya need to stop rather urgently its change down a gear or 2 and aim for a gap lol , keeps you alert and young ay 😬🤔 way more fun than my 2015 Thunderbird I reckon , cheers

@telestrat060

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, then you can use all your spare time trying to keep it running. LOL

@davidsage6575

6 жыл бұрын

Diffent companies and bikes. A Bloor is not a real Triumph, only born again bikers think they are the same

@Shaqeroni

4 жыл бұрын

Haha...they're not so bad after all, eh? lol

Looks like you have an interesting time over the next couple of weeks. I am looking to try the T120 at the weekend, so will look forward to your next instalment!

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

...if only you knew!!!! :0)

Thank you for the best vlogs on the internet . I'm back riding after a 21 year layoff,I bought a cbr500f to get me back in the swing of things. After this test I'm thinking of the T120 instead of the T100. As my next bike. Cheers Jeff in Australia.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 жыл бұрын

You'll be happy with either, lovely machines. Thanks for the kind words and all the best - TMF

The new 1200 street twin addresses most of the broblems I see with the 1200 Boni...cast wheels..thank you Triumph 😊

Loved your video, can't wait for the next one!

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 жыл бұрын

Stay tuned!

That tank is so gorgeous. I love triumphs

Well, this video answered my previous question Mr. Flyer. Thank you and take care.....Sal : )

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 жыл бұрын

Great!

Thank you. Another first class video. This time, of my favourite bike. Cheers .

Very informative and I enjoyed your review

My dream bike isa Triumph Bonneville T120 with a Watsonian Sidecar. The bike you are reviewing is lovely.

Mate! I used to ride the 60s golden flash try those for brakes, although we found them ok. You had to drive to your brakes in those days. My mates had triumphs in those days and they were the cream of the crop

Look forward to your long term review!

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Neil Cole Cheers Neil - stay tuned!

love all your reviews, thank you for being so thorough. Just wondering when the new KTM Duke 390 review is ready? really interested to hear your opinion on it, as it's currently that, or the BMW g310r for a first bike for me.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

It's in the diary for long term review but not until mid August - so a bit of a wait for that one yet I'm afraid...sorry :0(

Mr Missenden Flyer I enjoyed this review a lot. I like both bonnies, so it is a hard choice. By the way your are my favorite reviewer. Keep it flowing flyer. Splotchymoto out.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Kevin....and willco...

Hey TheMissendenFlyer, I love your videos. Good stuff. It would be great to see a review of the A2 friendly restricted Triumph Street Triple 660 cc.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+wallis34 If one becomes available, I'd love to review it! Stay tuned...

@wallis34

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. Keep up the good work.

Hey TMF, another great video and one close to my heart as I've had this exact model for 6 months now. I moved from a CB650F and have to say the T120 is incredible. I do a round commute of 56 miles five days a week and have been to Wales & back for a long Saturday ride. The T120 handles extremely well and you can even throw her into the bends if so inclined. On a different note I've just received my Custom Ear-guards (and yes I did get my TMF 10% discount). Would thoroughly recommend them to anyone (check out TMF's earguard video). Thankyou again sir for another most enjoyable review!

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Bond, James Bond Excellent! Wow a 10% discount, I should be on commission for those!!!

@hopgood007

7 жыл бұрын

Indeed sir - you should! On another a note, I have just bought the GoPro Hero 5 Session - which helmet mount would you recommend? (I like the way you have yours side mounted).

Great review. Bought one in the same colour. Well pleased with it. Your review was an influence in my decision making - thanks.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

@nigesainsbury9156

6 жыл бұрын

We dont have the day time driving lights here in the US, but I did opt to have the one touch cruise control button which is an excellent addition, can be used in third gear and upwards and disengaged through the brakes, throttle or clutch. Perhaps worthy of a TMF review? Cheers :-)

@revnakata

4 жыл бұрын

So, did you get a T100 or a T120? I'm really undecided between a T100 or a T120... can you help? Thanks!

Enjoyed the review...seems like a great bike! Thanks!

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Allen Huling Thanks - it is!

You concisely hit all of the high points, thanks! As a T120 owner I'd only add that any potential purchaser of the T100 or T120 should consider real-world gas mileage. Owners are consistently reporting that the T120 gets 10-15 MPG better than the T100. The two bikes have identical tank capacities. Most owners are going to gas up after using about three gallons. That means that you get 30-45 more miles to each tank with the T120. This difference is counter intuitive, I know. I believe it's due to the lazy, unstressed nature of the T120's engine. You have all of the power you want, with much more available when wanted or needed, which isn't often.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+tsmgguy How interesting! I didn't spot that - cheers - TMF

@stevec6427

2 жыл бұрын

I've found the same on a few cars in the past, the small, economical model needs to be worked harder so uses more fuel. I'm selling my weekend toy car and getting a T120 and as long as it beats the cars 18mpg I'm happy.

I borrowed a T120 when my Tiger Sport was in for service: I borrowed it as it's not something I would ever consider buying. What a truly amazing bike I had a huge amount of fun with it! Lovely torque and plenty of power. I gave bike back with a huge grin and was sorry to hand it back! I see you had a nice ride through Towcester centre :) there are some nice roads around Northamptonshire too :) go and checkout the Greens Norton Road!

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+ritchsuk I'll look it up! Cheers - TMF

Lovely machine, love the color combo. Put some forged 17" alloy wheels on it with some modern sticky rubber and BAM, my perfect commuter. Not a fan of spoked wheels and 19" fronts. Great work, Mr. Flyer !

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+JIGA BACHI Thank you!

@RichardsModellingAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. This is classic example of form over function. Unless the spokes are stainless steel they will look awful in no time.

Always loved the Bonneville.Absolutely stunning motorcycle.I’d go for the T120 for the extra’s it offers.Thanks TMF👍👍

@robertmacdonald7260

2 жыл бұрын

What extras does it have? or will this vid tell me :)

I've had mine a year now and covered 6k miles. I had to change to the comfort seat. It's a fraction higher as well as more comfortable. (I'm 6ft) I got the bike to slow me down so no screen and cruise control which is really useful to me. Not slow though, it keeps up with anything I've met on a A/B road. I like the fact that you can get the pegs down when being playful. The USB charges my phone for navigation, headlight is great at night, controls all light and predictable. Seems easy on tyres and chains. My only minor crumble is the chrome around the clocks and the clock glass reflecting badly. Oh and a £150 decat works wonders! More seat of the pants torque and great sound.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Sounds good to me rog5150 - lovely bike, I am very tempted I must say....(and yes I've noticed that sun reflection thing too)....

Triumph has really improved the Bonneville. I love all about this bike, except...the spoke wheels..they look good, but I'd rather have trouble free cast wheels, that's what I'm used to and I don't know anything about spoke wheels, just that I've heard they can give problems. I'm on the road daily, commuting, don't see many motorcycles here in St Louis, Missouri. This past weekend I saw dozens of Harleys parked at a bar lol!

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+john harris I like the spoked look but aren't a fan of cleaning them! Thanks for watching - TMF

@canopus101

5 жыл бұрын

I have owned both spoke and alloy wheel bikes over a period of 40 years, still do (Triumph Thunderbird and BMW 1200RT). I can put your mind at rest there are no real problems with spokes, just a bit harder to clean.

You put so much effort in videos, great work keep it up. I find t100 to be more effortless and lighter in traffic. T120 felt like lazy cruiser. You should do a video about air cooled Vs liquid Bonnie's. 😀

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Cheers Manmeet - good idea!

An other excellent review. I realy enjoy them. Thank you.

@TheMissendenFlyer

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and for saying so!

I test rode a street twin, liked it apart from the seat, then a T100, liked it a bit more, then finally the T120. For me there was such a difference it was really noticeable. The T120 felt way more refined, obviously more powerful and just overall in a different class, so much so, I bought one!

@TheMissendenFlyer

2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried a Speed Twin?

@jerhughes500

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMissendenFlyer I sat on one when they came out, but never got to ride one, partly because I knew I'd want one!

Excellent video

After watching with great interest your many reviews of motorcycles I think I have come to the conclusion that I would like to purchase a White van! lol, just kidding, love your work keep it up, looking forward to your next review. 🙃

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Scott Mitchell Careful Scott! :0)

So glad you made this video. I was just trying to decide which one to get!

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Did it help?

@professorlayabout4878

7 жыл бұрын

Definitely! I am leaning heavily toward the 120 but my one big question is whether the maneuvering is too sluggish for city riding and hitting the twisties since I live in the hills. Any thoughts? thanks again!!

@JLOSTAFF1

7 жыл бұрын

I've had my T120 9 months, not sluggish and great on bends - get one!

@professorlayabout4878

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for telling me what I wanted to hear! I'm just waiting for some money to come in and it's a done deal!

@lynnelzey8557

7 жыл бұрын

Professor Layabout y

Have a 2003 t100 love the bike suits riders that just want to enjoy a non complicated ride.

Such a beautiful bike.

Grumpy blx here again. I just don't know what to think about it. Glad you like it. I'm probably more inclined to the bmws.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+hudsonrilke Fair enough :0)

Great video! What's the difference between the T-120 and the Speed Twin?

Another great review!

@TheMissendenFlyer

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks George

Thanks for the review. 👍🏽

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I've got a 2009 SE model which I really like - with a few caveats. I'm glad to see that Triumph got rid of those butt ugly indicator lights and tail light. That was one of my first mods! The 120 looks like a real beauty, love the paint job. The seat looks comfy, after an hour or two my SE has me looking for a cafe and a good stretch and I'm only 5' 6". Twin discs up front, sweet! Lots of whoa to counter the go. Ride safe.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Cheers - you too!

Great review thanks.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 жыл бұрын

Really glad you think so - thanks!

Great review TMF. Current trying to decide between the new Tiger 800, GS 1200 and the 2 Bonnies. Does it bother you not having the wind protection you get with the GS? Tomscho

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 жыл бұрын

No not really - was nice today at minus 2 on the GS mind you! So it would have bothered me in very cold weather on a naked...

Since I own a T120 I can vouch for the excellent power and gearbox, smooth as silk. Amazing. Great bike for moving in and out of traffic, very quick and easy. What I dislike is the seating. Though it works for many, not for me. I even purchased the comfort seat and that wasn't much better. I had a guy modify the stock seat for me and I've not been able to get sufficient time in the saddle to determine if there is a significant improvement. The handlebars need to be about 1" higher as I find my wrists and hands get sore. I've tested that theory with washers and it made a huge different. Am looking for a more permanent solution that doesn't look too dumb. Now, that being said, I am a particular bloke when it comes to seating and handlebar placement so don't take my needs to be the normal. Overall, the T120 ranks up there as a top favorite of mine (I've owned a bunch of bikes over the years). Try using the Rain mode when traffic is stop and go, it helps calm down the throttle response (just a tip). TMF, thanks for this great comparison, glad I bought the T120! Cheers!

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Allan Brown Cheers Allan, glad you like the bike and good luck with that seat!

@granto6738

4 жыл бұрын

I think they to heavy, Triumph have done nothing with that old steel factory 🏭 frame, I take the t100 over the 120

basically I opted for the T100 because I liked how it looked, the light blue and traditional looking tank badge. and the psychological barrier of a 1200cc bike.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Iain Wallace Fair enough, I loved the T100 too!

@tsmgguy

6 жыл бұрын

That 1200cc psychological barrier is surely there. That's a BIG engine. The T100 was not available when I bought my T120. If it had been I'd have surely bought a T100, believing it adequate to my needs. The T120's power has proven to be so smooth, friendly, and linear that I'm very glad that things worked out as they did. If you're considering the new T100, I urge you take a very good look at the T120. You won't be disappointed with it. It even gets better gas mileage than the T100.

@telestrat060

6 жыл бұрын

A 1200 is no where near the size of an FLH engine. And the hp is in the region of 75 hp. Not intimidating at all.

Not forgetting that Triumph is a whole new company to the original, If Triumph had had a machine with such quality detail, they may have survived. They failed, as all the others did, because they were sticks in the mud, thinking they were so good, they didn't need to change. I really love this machine, it looks, sounds and goes great. I suspect about the only place that is not so good, is the ride by wire. You would expect BMW to have that system down pat but a friend has an 800 and has had considerable trouble with the ride by wire. He also had a final drive bearing failure that cost a fortune to fix.

1.53. Nice to see the flygs out for the twelfth. 👍😂🇬🇧

Thanks, this is just the video I've been hoping for. But did you notice any difference in the seating position and distance to pegs and handlebars?

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Nope - none - feels just the same size wise.....

Beautiful bike. Nice review. But all that said, the welded flange around the bottom of the fuel tank is absolutely unsightly. Why hasn’t Triumph revised this design flaw by now? I have a 2004 Bonneville that I purchased brand new, and the tank flange has always been a visual sticking point for me.

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@erikarneberg11

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Forrester Agreed! I’ve been looking for an adhesive rubber or plastic strip (U shaped) to cover the overly-large flange on the fuel tank to see if it would improve the looks. So far I’ve found one in a chrome finish, which might look OK on some of the “modern classic” series of Triumphs, but wouldn’t look right on my Street Twin- it’s got to be black! I haven’t been able to find anything that looks suitable. If anyone knows of a product that might work, please let me know- thanks!

Nice one, and about time MF - I've banged on about my T120 long enough - they are quite simply beautiful and brilliant. You've even got the right colours! It took me a while, but moving the top part of your torso to "muscle" it through corners I find exhilarating and satisfying. If you find any faults I will be amazed - I've had mine 9 months and can't think of any. Regards as ever, Jon.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+JLO Staff ....ringing front brake discs??

@JLOSTAFF1

7 жыл бұрын

Fair point - I know this was a problem on a few T120's. I'd forgotten that in the first few weeks my bike had slightly squeaky front brakes. Every time I clean it I use Muc Off disc brake cleaner which may have helped. I also did some hard braking after bedding the brakes in initially. Now done 1300 miles and no squeaky brakes at all! I don't know what mileage yours has done?

I've always wanted to see a comparison between the t120 and the thruxton R. as some one who has ridden both how do you compare them? thanks for all the videos, started watching you for street triple r videos and i subscribed ever since.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+overdrivekill7 Both brilliant machines, the Thruxton has some higher spec parts (ohlins, brembos) but personally I'd take the T120 over the Thruxton on styling....you can't go wrong with either....

excellent review 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I test rode the street twin and the 120 today. Loved both of them.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 жыл бұрын

+acnorea123 Yes both great machines eh?

@acnorea123

6 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer Yeah at least first impressions from demo rides :) I couldn't get hold of a t100. I like the t120 but not sure if it will too much for me ... moving up from 250cc virago. Your thoughts would be much appreciated.

@1250GSX

6 жыл бұрын

acnorea123 what did you choose in the end?

Nice video as usual. It is always good to have someone validate your choice to fork out $13,000 for a new 2017 T-120. To vere off on a different topic, you have had a Triumph Street Triple for years; perhaps you can do a review of the 2018 Street Triple R. I find the paper specs to be interesting. Only 366 pounds dry, 116 hp @ 12,000 rpm, 57 ft. lbs. @ 9,400 rpm.

@Zalonka

7 жыл бұрын

Farwalker2u rs over the r bud 😉😉

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Farwalker2u I'd love too as soon as one becomes available - I'm visiting the Triumph factory today...I'll ask 'em...

@Farwalker2u

7 жыл бұрын

Zalonka: Basic truism: "There is no accounting for taste." Everyone has a right to their personal taste. And a good thing too; the differences lead to variety and choices. I would hate it if there was only one motorcycle.

as always flyer very good review ................you might want to look at some the bikes from italy .....MV Augista & moto guzzi

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

I'd love too!

Just picked up a Bonnie T 100 , 2014..very nice..

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

Nice one! Great bike...

Same bike as mine. Love the T120. Its only a pure toy though - don't plan any ultra long journey's on it. Find it nice on the road but if you have a gravel driveway you have to be careful moving it about as it is pretty weighty. Mine is only used in the rain if I accidentally get caught in a shower. I give it an all over spray of that protective silicone every week and clean it forensically. I find it very relaxing and therapeutic cleaning it. Can't imagine I would feel the same with a BMW as there is practically no chrome. All parts can easily be reached by hand to clean which is great.

@Zalonka

7 жыл бұрын

Mark Murphy Subjective... my buddy took his yamaha v star up and down a gravel and clay driveway (that's on a curved hill). In the wet and dry in Georgia on our bikation. I took a 636 up and down same driveway, so did my buddy on his hyper. Maybe you are just not comfortable with it on gravel.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Mark Murphy I agree Mark - I have found this hard to shift on my gravel driveway, my GS is much easier would you believe! Lovely bike though, really like the T120....

@Lar308

7 жыл бұрын

I meant when moving it very slowly requiring foot support (reversing mainly)in and out of the garage etc. The bike is very stable once its under its own power on any surface.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Mark Murphy That's what I mean too...

All bikes seem to have a sweet spot where the engine is the smoothest. I had a Honda CB750 that had a vibration right at 60mph. Anything above or below that speed was smooth. Any notice of vibrations at different cruising speeds?

@TheMissendenFlyer

3 жыл бұрын

No I didn’t notice on this one - pretty smooth across the board.....

I'd take the T-120 Black hands down! But will it make a nice road bike for possibly traveling/commuting?

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Dona_Mane I don't see why not, I've been using this as my daily bike for two weeks now and it's been great!

@RichardsModellingAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Good luck stopping the spokes from rusting if you ride in anything but nice weather

has the gearbox/gear selector problem ever been sorted out on the bonneville models either by the replacement of the gear sellector or in recent years of manufacture [if so then when] in such a way that the issue won't reoccure?

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 ай бұрын

Never had an issue with mine thus far….

I have a 2016 T120 best bike I have ever ridden plenty of power and nice and light in traffic

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed, just back from a 3 hour ride on this puppy, loved it...

You're in the enviable position of having extensive experience with both the T100 and the T120, where most owners had to make their choice based only on a short demo ride. The T100 was not yet available when I bought my T120. Had it been, I would probably have chosen the T100 as being adequate for my needs. I'd have never experienced the T120's smooth, linear, and entirely usable power. Handling is excellent, and braking is a two finger affair. Gas mileage is great, too; I'm averaging a consistent 63-65 miles per gallon. There appears to be no mileage penalty for having all of that extra power on tap.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

I loved the T100, but given the choice, I'd take the T120 - you made a great choice! Thanks for watching - TMF

Love every one of your videos. Thank you for doing it. I was wondering have you ever used Draggin Liners or their shirt? The other day I rode to the beach in sweat pants no underwear and a long sleeve T shirt. I know stupid and irresponsible. However, I just wanted to take a ride and be comfortable in 85 degree heat without my underwear choking my bits! I have tried Moto Skivies which work great but still slide up and choke the bits albeit a little less so. I have ordered Draggin liners plus their shirt. I will let you know if they work. In the cooler time of year I wear an Aerostitch. But right now it's in the 90s

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Crikey where in the world are you Arthur? I do wear Draggin Jeans (which presumably have the same lining) and am a huge fan of those...was thinking of doing a review of them come the autumn....

@arthurb8631

7 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer I am in Long Island New York. Negative 2 degrees Fahrenheit to 102 depending on the month

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Sounds much the same as here then!!

I was very close to buying this in the black edition but at €14350 it was to big a hole for me to jump into. bought a 1983 kawasaki kz1100 instead and I love it.. even though it seems to require constant maintenance.. real retro biking for ye I suppose

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Yes you're getting the full experience :0) ...enjoy.

Hey mate how about consumes ? Ty mate

i don't know if it's just me but, when I 1st came across the Bonnieville model (back in the latter 60s) that bike was substantially bigger than the current model.

@chrisheggie952

7 жыл бұрын

My first bike as a green 18 year old was a beautiful '69 Bonnie and of course to me it was a big bike, but forty years on the old Bonnie seems so small! I'd take the T120 or Thruxton R nowadays.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Chris Heggie Yes, these machines have certainly moved on with the times!!

Smooth review. Enjoyed it. Should something happen to my 68 Trophy Sports, i'd be looking one of those up. 71417

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Cheers William....thanks for watching and for stopping by - TMF

Cheers Missenden, which Bike has more low end pull between the T120 and the Bobber? I am assuming the Bobber is tuned a bit better at the low end than the T120?

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Actually both very similar, if anything I guess the Bobber has a little more grunt but very little in it given they basically have the same engine....

Interesting comparison; were I in the market now I'd almost certainly opt for the 120. But I have a T100 already; '02 (Centenary Edition), so it's an 800cc motor. About the only real gripe not readily fixable with a relatively inexpensive aftermarket bit is the single front brake; they went too cheap there in not even giving you the option to mount one! I've fitted a centerstand (Triumph accessory), performance mufflers (Triumph accessory) and an aftermarket igniter that raises the rev limit to 8200. The front brake is a lot better with EBC HH sintered pads, but I'd love to mount a second disc if there were just a place to put it! I don't really have a problem with the stock saddle; it's a bit on the hard side but I have done a 500 mile day with no trouble. And I have on occasion tried to shift up from 5th, so a 6th would be nice but not absolutely necessary.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Triumphrider Great stuff - cheers, for that...TMF

Will you be doing reviews comparing the Street Scrambler and the Air cooled Scrambler or the Street Cup and the Thruxton/ Thruxton R? (i admit I have been getting Triumph fever again have have watched most of your stand alone reviews and long term reviews for the Triumph classic line.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

I haven't got anything planned but I'll add it to my list...

Triumph T120 or BMW R9t or Kawasaki Z900rs? I'm in the market for a vintage/classic looking bike and those two are on my list.

@TheMissendenFlyer

5 жыл бұрын

You'd be happy with either - all great bikes. I went for the Triumph Speed Twin....

Nice video, thanks! On the web-site of Triumph there is another difference mentioned: The bars of the t100 are 715mm, the bars of the t120 are 785 mm. Is that true? (On pictures I think they are equal...). Do you feel this difference?

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Interesting - I didn't notice a difference!

Hi TMF. I have been watching your videos for a while as I research for my first bike. I am 42 and currently going through my direct access course. I work for emergency services and am an advanced driver. I have been looking at the street scrambler until I sat on a T120. When I sat on the SS it felt good and how I expected it to but as soon as I sat on the T120 it just felt perfect. Obviously this is still all before passing my test and a test ride. I would be intetested in your thoughts especially after you said you would go for the T120 over the T100. Does this apply to beginners?? Thanks for any advice. Great vids.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 жыл бұрын

Err, in a word, no - I would go for the T100 in your case, just to learn your craft - or even better a cheap second hand 600 to use for 6 months and then sell and go for the T120. Did you see my video on how to choose your first big bike?? Good luck with your DAS.....

@michaelcollins9271

6 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer Hi thanks for the advice. I have seen that video thanks. Another reason why I asked. Cheers

@corgis7083

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Collins I

great review thanks! I think 120 is the way to go from this!

I've had my T120 since January and covered just over 7500 miles...I absolutely love it and I was lucky that my local dealer lent me a T100 for a few days to compare the two...I found them to be totally different bikes and I can't wait to hear about your experiences and how they stack up with mine...the best modification that I have had installed was the x pipe from free spirit (I believe British Customs do one as well). The de cat that this achieves makes the bike sound wonderful and hasn't affected my average mpg which is currently at 60.4 after the mileage I have done which includes long trips as well as town work...I hope you enjoy your time with the bike

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+David Roberts So did the decat improve your mpg??

@DavidRoberts-mk3zm

7 жыл бұрын

No but it didn't reduce it, another thing to note was that my triumph dealership contacted triumph prior to getting it done and they were assured that it didn't affect the warranty

I think that basically is only a matter of personal preference.

No idea but am I 1st? Yeah I reckon so. Don't even have the faintest interest in any of these bikes. Not to say they're not quality products. Good to see the channel thriving sir. Cheers boss.

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Well you're first this time around - I had some technical difficulties today so had to delete the original upload of this one along with all the comments :0( I know these aren't your bag but good to hear from you again....I rode the new R6 today :0)

Good review and these are still beautiful bikes to look at and ride. But have you considered doing a review on something I have been reading about for several months now, and that is the apparently terrible customer service from Triumph dealers in the UK . I don't want to be negative but with so many reports, I have to think there may some truth to it. Considering the arguably premium prices paid for these bikes, it would be wise for potential buyers to do some research before diving in. Thanks. 👍🇨🇦

@charlieb3497

3 жыл бұрын

Common knowledge but it’s been swept under the carpet wouldn’t take my bike to any triumph dealer 😱 don’t mention ticking time bomb on t100 t120 speed twin bobber 😱 gear selector fail 😬 triumph lacking transparency 🤦‍♂️

So, what bike do you prefer ? I cant find your other vids with the follow up.

@TheMissendenFlyer

5 жыл бұрын

They're both great but I'd have the T120 personally...

Mister Flyer, I trust your judgement and would like to ask your opinion on two matters. First, is the T120 overgeared? That is to say, is the gearing too tall? I have the feeling that, if so, Euro compliance has a lot to do with it. Second, not if, but *when* the time comes where I'd like to turn up the wick just a bit in the twisties, is the handling and steering really as ponderous as some have said? I'm asking you because your evaluations are pretty darned honest. I know it's not made for sportbike antics, but let's face it....it's a motorbike, and it's a Triumph, and that carries with it certain responsibilities.

It's truly a beautiful bike, TMF. Triumph really do excel in design, don't they? I hope you get to ride the Kawasaki Z900RS and give us your opinions on that one.

@TheMissendenFlyer

6 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, it's very much on the cards!

How comfortable are these bike for long trips? I would think your back and rump would give out after maybe 100 miles

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Collin Mac I've found it very comfortable, you can move around in the seat quite a bit which helps. I've done a couple of hundred milers on it no issue...

I would like to know why triumph doesn’t put a union jack anywhere on the motorcycle. When I buy something British I wanna see that union jack, it’s very cool. it’s cool to see the union jack in San Francisco where I live.

@Granto-ni9qw

4 жыл бұрын

Cos they r made in Asia 😅

@w.harrison7277

4 жыл бұрын

And designed by British minds, the kings of the world!

@Granto-ni9qw

4 жыл бұрын

Made in Asia now 🤣 I'm from Durham England

@bonkeydollocks1879

4 жыл бұрын

Because this country has been made to feel its not the right thing to do, we are all racists who agree with the slave trade apparently and we should be ashamed that we once owned half of the world and we could manufacture almost anything and export it all over the globe but the milenials have beat the country down and all we have to be proud of is some body with poor mental health in a wheelchair protected by the BBC preaching to us how unjust and unfair it is to even think anything other than snowflake material and the bulldog spirit that got us through two world wars is frowned upon. We've been ridiculed into watching some dance show on a Saturday night or people baking cakes that get more votes than when people vote in an election and you then block up a retail park on a Saturday. We'll some of us don't.

@Jon-zj2nj

3 жыл бұрын

Union Flags do appear on Triumphs from time to time, the current triangular logo is part Union Flag after all. But it’s now stretching the point when they are nearly all built in Thailand, or Brazil and will also shortly be built by a third party in India.

How's the engine heating for a country like India were you have an average temp of 33 to 35°c, riding for 30 to 45mins. Taking into consideration both bike and outside Temp. Is it comfortably hot for a rider...?

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know I've not ridden this bike in those temperatures - I imagine any bike is going to be uncomfortable above 30 degrees C (certainly in my experience)...

Makes sense to me that you changed your opinion about the effect of the weight of the T-120 on "flickability" compared to the T-100 that you stated in the "First Impressions" video about two months earlier. After all the weight difference is only about 5% or 24 pounds. When you add a rider the % is even less. According to the Triumph website: T-120 Capacity 1200cc Bore Stroke 97.6 mm / 80 mm Compression 10.0:1 Max Power EC 80 Hp (59kW) @ 6550 rpm Max Torque EC 77.4 FT-lbs (105 Nm) @ 3100 rpm Width Handlebars 30.9 in (785 mm) Height Without Mirror 44.3 in (1125 mm) Seat Height 30.9 in (785 mm) Wheelbase 56.9 in (1445 mm) Rake 25.5º Trail 4.1 in (105.2 mm) Dry Weight 494 lbs (224 Kg) Tank Capacity 3.8 US Gallon T-100 Capacity 900cc Bore Stroke 3.3 (84.6) / 3.1in (88mm) Compression 10.55:1 Max Power EC 55Hp (40.5kW) @ 5,900rpm Max Torque EC 59FT-lbs (80Nm) @ 3,230rpm Width Handlebars 28.1in (715mm) Height Without Mirror 43.3in (1100mm) Seat Height 31.1in (790mm) Wheelbase 57.1in (1450mm) Rake 25.5º Trail 4.1in (104mm) Dry Weight 470lb (213kg) Tank Capacity 3.8gal

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah the additional "pros" of the T120 (notably power and brakes) out weigh any additional weight to my mind.....both great bikes though, if I were a small person then the T100 would be the way to go as it is a bit easier to man handle around....

Do the ribs on the seat keep the rider secure, it looks as though one would slide back too easily when opening it up on the freeway 80+ MPH?

@Zalonka

7 жыл бұрын

handlebars, pegs

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Anton I agree with Zalonka - in reality that's not an issue, you never feel like you're going to come off the back :0)

@leanidis300

7 жыл бұрын

Not an issue?? My HOG has handle bars and pegs too!!, but without a contoured seat or Lumbar support, I'm sliding back on the seat when at full throttle...

Are you planning a review on the Thruxton? I would love to get both bikes (T120 and the Thruxton)? What you think about both of those bikes in your garage?

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

I've already reviewed it >> kzread.info/dash/bejne/gI6Jy9SxkZeWmrw.html

@astar5w

7 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer Thanks, I wish I could have both of these bikes in my garage lol

Hi there. In your honest opinion, if you was given this triumph or say a Kawasaki Z900rs FOC which one would you go for? Loving every one of your reviews. Forgot to say! Bikes have lots of things going for them and you could talk about bikes all day long! but as for the naked experience which one would you jump on on a hot summers day? Looking forward to reading your reply. So it’s Triumph or Kawasaki? Be honest now. ☺️

@TheMissendenFlyer

2 жыл бұрын

DIfficult as I've only ridden the Kwak once, I think it might be the Kwak though....love that smooth 4 cylinder...

@TheChrysler56

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMissendenFlyer Brilliant! Thanks, that’s all I wanted to hear as I love my RS. 😉

Hi mate, nice review. I may have a question for you since you seem to have riden both T100 and T120 : do you think that the T100 is a reliable bike even if you go on highway, and if you want to do some road trip ? (not mentioning the fact that you have to put bags on it, just want to know if this is a bike where you can go 200 km at a 130KM/h speed easily....)

@TheMissendenFlyer

5 жыл бұрын

Yes 100%.....

@joxkiller

5 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer thank you for your answer. I know this question might look weird, but no tester ever talk about this... Ride safe

@TheMissendenFlyer

5 жыл бұрын

Not at all....no worries.

How's the ground clearance? Any good for throwing it around in some tight bends?

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

I didn't have any problems and never scraped a foot peg (though that's not saying much, I'm a rubbish rider)...

@jimbo1485

7 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer you can't be that bad. You're alive.

Would you recommend a T120 as a first big bike ? I hope to pass my DAS mod 2 soon and I'm fed up with my 13 BHP Honda CB125R ! (although it is nice and light for manual handling exercises :) )

@TheMissendenFlyer

5 жыл бұрын

No - too powerful and heavy IMO - the T100 would be a good choice? Just my opinion though entirely up top you.....

@karlosh9286

5 жыл бұрын

​@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes, I don't need masses of power. I also by some miracle actually passed Mod 2 the other day ! I had a look at the specs of the T120, it's quite a heavy beast. I'm currently leaning heavily towards the 2019 Street Twin, not so much because of the extra 10BHP, more the comments I've read that said the brakes are better and it's something like 26 Kg lighter. I was also considering a Honda CB650R or Suzuki SV650 but like most bikes the pillion seat is up in the clouds ! ( The Suzuki appeals to my bank balance ) I went to a Triumph dealer (before I'd passed Mod 2) and my wife preferred sitting on a Bonneville T120 and Street Twin over a Triumph Triple that has a pillion seat "up in the clouds". ( Also Triple's currently look probably a bit too quick for a newbie like me ) I really like the classic 1950s to 60s Triumph look, and flatter seat for a pillion. The choice seems to be coming down to a new 2019 Street Twin or second hand one . Do you know if the brakes are really that much better ? Tweaking around changing callipers on an earlier Street Twin and other things could soon eat up any cost saving over a new 2019 Street Twin , and I might out grow the 55 BHP quicker than I think ... I'm also not a fan of too much cleaning, all the chrome and spoked wheels on the Bonneville looks like lots of Sunday afternoons cleaning rather than riding :)

@erikarneberg11

4 жыл бұрын

KarlosH I bought a (new) 2018 Street Twin last year- with the dealer’s discount and a Triumph promotional rebate it was over $1500.00 less than the 2019’s! And, as I really prefer the wheels on the 2016-2018 Street Twins and the white tank with the red & blue stripes (and a couple other details) over the 2019s, it was an easy decision. With that price difference, I can (and probably will) buy the Free Spirit Brembo brake conversion and TEC cam & still be ahead of what a 2019 would have cost (not including slightly cheaper insurance for a 1 yr. older model bike...). I WOULD like to ride a 2019/2020 to feel what the differences are, but I have no regrets. It’s far from being my first bike, but suits me very well. I would have no reservations about recommending a Street Twin over the T120 as your next step from a 125... Best of luck to you & stay safe out there- the drivers are only getting worse!

I'd go for the bigger one of the 2 if I was looking for this type of machine 👍🏻

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

+Cotti Fair enough...thanks for stopping by once again - TMF

@tinks43

7 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer That's the bigger engine not wheelbase 🤣

I've test ridden both and feel the t120 while having ALOT better features had worse handling and a snatchy throttle. The t100 fueling and throttle response was spot on.

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

How odd - you’d expect the electronics on both to be pretty similar!

@ThiefOfNavarre

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMissendenFlyer You'd think so! But to be fair I didn't try rain mode so perhaps the response on the t100 is dialed in closer to that! 🤷‍♂️

I currently own a Bonnie 2016 T100 air cooled. I had thought of "upgrading" to the T120 because I wanted the extra power and torque. Trouble is, the T100 which is truly a marvelous bike in it's own right also has a 4.2 gallon fuel tank (at least on the air cooled T100's) so if I made the switch to the T120 I would be taking a considerable hit in the riding range ( currently160-170) miles between fill ups!! Ugghh I feel so conflicted!!....lol

@TheMissendenFlyer

2 жыл бұрын

...for what it's worth I think I prefer the T100 to the T120 - the 120 feels quite heavy to me.......

@danield831

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes that helps. thanks!!

Looks and sounds great but not as good as my 1961 Bonnie !

TMF another Top Notch review. Question for you, since I'm currently in the market, how do you compare the Moto Guzzi V7 III , and v9 to the T100 and t120?

@TheMissendenFlyer

4 жыл бұрын

I prefer the Triumphs - feel better made, Guzzis feel more authentic though....

@RidersInBlack

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMissendenFlyer the V9 is not everyone's favorite. The V7 is preferred from reviews I've seen. Each one has their own style. All gorgeous bikes. Thanks for the reply. Keep up the great work!

please review and give is your opinion about the 2017 Harley Davidson 48 sportster. thank you!! :)

@TheMissendenFlyer

7 жыл бұрын

...sadly they don't "do" Harley Davidson's in my neck of the woods....maybe one day I'll get to ride one (they're not so popular in the UK as elsewhere...)...

@rayroman4111

7 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer my request was very selfish and bias, i must admit. i just bought a 48 (1200 cc) bike as my very first ride ever. i'm 29 and i always wanted a nice bike. i brought down my choice between the bmw R9T and the 48. i hope i didn't make the wrong choice. ps: i'm from Peterborough, uk. :)

@Zalonka

7 жыл бұрын

Ray Roman sportster was literally designed for women. if you did not know they flat out admitted it.