Like the metaphor - scale and scope! Short and spot-on! Very much similar to what we see in real life projects. Thanks for sharing.

Just found your channel. My org has been moving from Waterfall to Agile and your videos have been incredibly helpful! Thank you so much Angelo!

This is the best explanation I have seen yet. I am moving to a company where the BAs appear to work more as data analysts. So, I'm thinking I'll likely be the person eliciting requirements and creating user stories and writing acceptance criteria as product manager. That's a lot to be getting on with as the PM/PO. I may need to lean on BAs who are happy to work beyond data analysis. Will see. But, thanks for pointing out that this is something that is agreed by the PO/BAs.

Short and crisp. Just what I wanted. Thank you

Great video! Very informative and a clear cut answer.

Perfect timing. Just got a new role that requires me to truly serve as a proxy to a PO

@AngeloTheBA

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Good luck with that.

Thank you for explaining this

My previous role was a BA that supported a PO, but I felt more like a scrap-eater versus having an established routine through each release. So I was more of a "jack of all trades, master of none" and did whatever extra work nobody else wanted to do. If that was write UAT scripts, I wrote them. Do a financial analysis? I did that. System algorithm analysis? Did that too. Create reporting dashboards? Did that. I felt there was no scope to my role, and being a contractor, felt like I really had no purpose there. But this essentially explains what I should have been doing!

@AngeloTheBA

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this happens quite a bit for BAs in my company still. Especially when there aren't BAs close by to help mentor or guide the ambuguity. It's kinda what prompted me to create this video. I figured it was a challenge beyond just where I work.

@lindaa9005

4 жыл бұрын

I noted that you worked as a contractor- having been in your shoes I would say that isn't unusual. It seems that first of all, as a BA contractor, often you are expected to fill in for whatever needs to be done, and secondly, many of those tasks aren't necessarily those that the permanent BAs on staff would want to do. Funny though - I've also hired contractor BAs and they were given assignments that were comparable to our permanent staff. Guess which team ended up with better results and happier BAs?

@therickestpicklerick

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure how unique and advantageous your role is. Not many people in an organization can sit in the middle of everything and understand each part of the system. You're mastering the big picture. CEOs are these types of people.

thank you, this really opens my eyes.

@AngeloTheBA

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you found it helpful

Fr a business perspective, the "product owner" is the person w the profit & loss (or at least sales-revenue growth) responsiblity. That's the line. As you point out, their title could be Product Mgr, Sales Ops Mgr, almost anything. The "project owner" has responsibility for success of the dev project, but not necessarily the product itself. I agree there's no hard line as to who does which BA tasks.

Best explanation .. Thanks for your efforts

@AngeloTheBA

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome

Could you please overview key documents that BA is responsible for? Like BRD etc. If you could make a list of those that are crucial it would be super nice of you :) Examples would be also much appreciated. Thanks!

@AngeloTheBA

4 жыл бұрын

Something like this kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yp6Tx9OCfqvIc5s.html ?

@alexhopestranger7386

4 жыл бұрын

@@AngeloTheBA thanks man!

A BA in a Scrum framework should work outside the sprints? Because as the sprint starts, we expect the development to be started ryt? Please explain where and when the BA should be performing the activities they are entitled to.. especially when it comes to requirement gathering etc..

@AngeloTheBA

3 жыл бұрын

Here is a video specifically about this kzread.info/dash/bejne/inies9iaeKiWkto.html

Hi Angelo, I have question again.. who decides on which methodology to follow is it PM or BA? Do we follow methodology during the scope elicitation too..?

@AngeloTheBA

3 жыл бұрын

Neither. Usually the IT organization determines the methodology used. Most agile practitioners would not willingly volunteer to do waterfall.

Excellent

@AngeloTheBA

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

I have been out of work since July, and I finally resorted in taking a BSA role with a company for a contract over a year. I have been a Product Owner and Project Manager. I want to eventually become either of these roles after this contract is complete in 2024. Is being a BSA giving me experience still? They are apart of the agile process in this company and I think I am confused as to what the differences have been. I like it that you stated that there really isn't a difference. In most organizations would a BSA be considered a PO? I am asking for my future and resume experience. Thanks.

@AngeloTheBA

6 ай бұрын

Many product owner job postings specifically say experience as a product owner or business analyst in the description. So it is understood there is overlap in the job roles. If that's your goal, then you should look up the kind of jobs you'd want and make sure you're doing your current role in a way that best positions you for the requirements in the job description.

Is there a difference between Business Analyst and Product Analyst? It sounds like these roles basically vary between different companies, and how product owners decide to distribute the roles between their teams, if I understand correctly.

@AngeloTheBA

3 жыл бұрын

If I had to define them, a business analyst is focused on the business processes/people and helping to define solutions to meet there needs. A product analyst is more focused on the product(s) a business sells and analyzing data to put it out there with high success (pricing & stuff). So a product owner who owns a product being sold by the company might have product analysts. However product owner in an agile sense might mean responsibility for direction of an application but the "product" isn't sold, just used and therefore wouldn't need a product analyst. If the application exists in a complex organization, the business analyst would add value.

Can the BA who has understanding of the feature dictate how it should be done? Or should the solution be left up to the developers?

@AngeloTheBA

3 жыл бұрын

Can you? Yes. Should you probably not. Dictators dictate. Team members collaborate. When I write a story and acceptance criteria I exclude how it should be done. I may add a suggestions separate from those two if I think it would help the team move faster, but I always make it clear that if they have ideas along the way to do it differently, better, or more efficiently they should be considered. If they do, then wouldn't invalidate the story or acceptance criteria. Helps the team take ownership of the quality of the solution and pepper in their perspectives that you don't have.

@09addzy

3 жыл бұрын

@@AngeloTheBA Thanks for answering. The problem with small companies, often developers are working on other work (eg. Bugs). It's not until just before the sprint they will ask me to define every little detail requirement for the user story upfront. For a brand new product, I collaborate with the domain expert to gather as much information as I can (business requirements) and make a start on functional requirements. I don't want to lock Devs into a solution but sometimes their solution is not always the best option. (E.g from a UX point of view) so I tried to play that role too.

Is there a difference between a business analyst and a business partner??

@AngeloTheBA

3 жыл бұрын

Well, a business analyst is a person most responsible for business analysis activities. There are many job titles that may also incorporate business analysis activities (enterprise architect, IT consultant, being a part of an agile team, systems analyst, functional analyst, etc). Job titles can be made up by the organization, so in truth, you have to ask yourself does a business partner in whatever context you are referring to do business analysis activities? To me, a business partner is when two or more people start a business together, they are business partners.

@stillwatersnightsky6533

3 жыл бұрын

@@AngeloTheBA thank you taking the time to respond. In the context that I am referring to, based on your answer, it is more of being a bride between the business and the IT teams. However, I do now understand what involves a Business Analyst's role. Thank you.

Currently i am working as an Business Analyst, and i am getting an offer from another company as an Product Owner. what should i do now i am not able to make any decision can you help me out in this?

@AngeloTheBA

2 жыл бұрын

That is something you have to decide yourself based on your own career goals & if the other company will help you reach them in that position.

@PARTHPATEL-mv6sf

2 жыл бұрын

@@AngeloTheBA on what basis should i make decisions, i saw many videos related to this i am not making any conclusion.

@PARTHPATEL-mv6sf

2 жыл бұрын

I have just started my career as a business analyst

@AngeloTheBA

2 жыл бұрын

@@PARTHPATEL-mv6sf I would document your career requirements (salary, location, work life balance, future career paths). Then compare how the two opportunities meet or don't meet them then make a decision.

@PARTHPATEL-mv6sf

2 жыл бұрын

@@AngeloTheBA okay thank you so much! Actually i am from india😄

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