We get the justification for the race. What people have problem with is the extremely high cost to participate. That is what defeats the "level playing field" claim. Only very affluent families people can afford to participate. Thats what drives people nuts about it.

@OtisFlint

13 күн бұрын

That's all racing. You can build a spec Miata for $10k, but it costs $60k/season to race it.

@Nick-xw3dk

12 күн бұрын

Do you mind explaining more, in what way could they make it cheaper in the grand scheme? It takes a week to do practice and 3 motos for all those classes no way around that, a bike cost what it cost that has nothing to do with the combs family that’s manufactures prices for a bike. They have a stock class if you can’t afford to invest in performance parts and suspension and all that. The race is in Tennessee, maybe not perfectly central in the country but fairly centrally located for a large portion of the country. Do entry fees cost money, yes of course they do but you gotta pay flaggers, paramedics to be on stand by 24/7 for a week, security, officials, maintenance workers for the machinery, and the list goes on. The area and regional qualifiers are necessary to make it the even playing field he referred to and so that when you get to Loretta’s your guaranteed a practice and 3 motos no more qualifying necessary. So please explain how the combs family specifically is suppose to make it cheaper for you?

@randallaumiller8628

12 күн бұрын

dudes so out of touch being from Australia

@MrSlayerboy99

7 күн бұрын

Motorsports are expensive. It’s not cheap to race even at a local level. It is unfortunately not a poor man’s sport

@1176hambone

7 күн бұрын

@@OtisFlint Of course. Im referring to the costs of participating in Lorettas. Not local races, not qualifiers, not regionals. the ranch. Its high AF. They are gouging hard. Im not talking about racing in-general.

Crushing it again Jase! Another great podcast with another legend!

Loretta’s is great! However there is a problem with the races leading up to it and it should be addressed. 1. Local tracks hosting an area qualifier should not be hosting local district racing and dropping gates with guys trying to qualify. Keep it separate. 2. Regional should only be accepting 42 riders. 70-80 per class bogging down the whole day with 2 divisions and 10 LCQS. 3. You’re only allowed to race and qualify in one region. Not running all over the country using it to race and take out riders in that region.

@Nick-xw3dk

8 күн бұрын

I agree with 1 and 3 as well. I think #2 would eliminate itself if 1 and 3 were made a rule. But yeah there are people who just hop in a motorhome and go to every single region until they finally qualify in one, which I find to be in fairly poor taste. Gotta keep some dignity in this life, and that seems to lack a bit of dignity in my opinion.

Deegan pulled a 40 in his last year at Loretta Lyns as well I believe.

Coming from a 40yo who has been a fan for 30+ years….The Coombs family is the best example of people who have helped build this sport into what it is today. Sad that a lot of younger ewer fans don’t know what people who are passionate about this sport look like. Its been built by people likely Davey and of the privateers and former MX’ers who paid to race hard. Rich history this sport offers

@Suckitupbuttercup407

12 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@dylanvick4417

12 күн бұрын

The Coombs faimly can suck it

@chupacabraracing181

12 күн бұрын

You mean his father. JR is NOTHING like his old man. He would be rolling in the grave over the way JR is handling things these days. He is full of greed.

Ac could have started backwards and would still win Loretta’s 🤣😂

@goodmanbare3658

13 күн бұрын

He could have started from his rv on a supermini

Had to google “Potentiality” lol.

How are you saying the track is new every year? I have been going there for years and is 95% the same every year. Now it really does need switched up every year because there are so many people that have the resources that just train on replica tracks every year because it hasn’t changed. Therefore, for those that don’t it really isn’t an equal playing field as stated. It's also truly not the 42 best riders because the road to get there is so incredibly expensive that many don't go because of the resource constraints. When I say expensive I'm talking 10,000 just for the week from the West coast/ The cost associated with getting there and while there is absolutely insane. They don't even support individual ticket sales. I go multiple days to watch every year and pay $50 a day because the only price they offer is by the car.

@boxd1888

13 күн бұрын

100 percent

@jerrysmith9935

13 күн бұрын

I went there for thrity years set in same spot 20 years and the track was different ever year were it was the dirt dry muddy or rutted different, cloudy ,hot, humid rainy, cut part of track off, table tops added or remade sand added, ten commandments changed, there have been different equipment used to prep track different, been a lot of changes, really all in all its the best place ever and the coombs family and all the lynns have came up with the best fun family gathern place ever it to me is the best home coming spot for the motocross familys

@kurtheidelbach

13 күн бұрын

@@jerrysmith9935 😂😂😂No , there have been very few changes made to the track layout at all as I have gone for years too. Of course, the weather changes 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️Just as it does when they practice on the replica tracks. Have they bought new equipment over the years just like almost any track🤦‍♂Of course. Is it fun? Sure. I'm not talking about having fun I was talking about the track and having an equal playing field and changed track as stated. About guarantee it will be the same next month to wait and see.

@Nick-xw3dk

12 күн бұрын

That track is torn down and removed within a few weeks of everyone leaving after Loretta's ends. If you go to Loretta's property any month other than August, which I have multiple times there is no track there. Which means the track has to be built in July every year to be ready for the first week of August, that is TECHNICALLY a new track every year. If it wasn't a new track then their wouldn't be a track to REBUILD. You and a few others have a very petty argument. If you think you personally can make a more affordable amateur national with over 50 years of history, then why don't you show us all how it's done? As far as you saying the track doesn't change, your missing the entire point. That's what makes Loretta's special is things you can identify with such as the "10 commandments" its part of the experience, just as much as the creek is, just as much as it being on Loretta's property is, if that race was ever moved off of Loretta's property it would no longer be "Loretta Lynns Amateur National".... When I hear a lot of you complain it just shows you miss the entire point of it all, that week at that Ranch is life changing I have been 3 times the first time in 2004 and I am 34 years old now and still think about that week frequently all these years later, it was amazing one of the coolest experiences. Whatever the number is $10,000, $15,000 it doesn't matter you cant put a price tag on memories that have stood this strong over the past 20 years in my mind. Id gladly pay that price again to wake up and see all those RV's, generators running, families depending on each other and supporting each other to have a good moto that day and try to achieve a goal and a dream together, all the kids and families in the creek, all the factory rigs, the smell of race fuel, the sounds and people, the golf carts and pit bikes everywhere, the green trees, and nothing but motorcycles for a week. You cant put a price tag on that, learn to appreciate the small things in life, money comes and goes you will always make more I promise you.

@kurtheidelbach

12 күн бұрын

@@Nick-xw3dk LOL no it's not. I've been there numerous times after the races through the year. Sure, it's not maintained but it sits as the same general track and when it is reconstructed it's the same track. The only time this really didn't happen is when the flood hit and washed most of it away. Even after that it was built back to 95% of the original track. Moron, I'm not talking about refreshing the same track as being a new track LOL. The race is in July this year by the way. Sure, you would pay the price again but the price doesn't get the best riders there. Sure the creek is part of the experience LOL I'm talking about the track. Davey said it was an equal playing field and that is 100% not true now days with the the fortunate riding replica tracks. I'm not talking about sentimental memories, what makes things special or anything else.

The best thing they did was having amatuer day after they did the Nationals there a few years back!

idea ... sound it out

Potentiality isn't a word.

@andersnord8255

6 күн бұрын

It is now?

Coombs doesn't get enough credit and takes too much criticism. Is it perfect? No, but we're a small sport, and slowly but surely it's being pulled up, and a significant amount of credit needs to go to Davey and his family. It's been a multi-decade effort.

@tcolley

11 күн бұрын

Sounds like nostalgia. Only a fam biz would tolerate incompetence and personal differences preventing growth. A board of directors would replace him w/ someone who gets deals done (Glen Helen etc), proper digital strategy and increased investment from sponsors/oem’s

Villopoto did get noticed there. He gave Alessi all he could handle many motos at the ranch even back before he was on Kawi racing Yamaha. Dungey raced Lorettas for years just didn't win.

@Nick-xw3dk

12 күн бұрын

Many people raced Loretta's for years and just didn't win. Mike Alessi is tied for most Loretta's championships in history, more than Carmichael and many others. On paper he should of went on to be one of the greatest pro riders to ever live, instead he never won a championship in the 450 class. Dungey did poorly there overall and look at the pro career he had. People often miss the point of Loretta's, success doesn't often correlate to professional success, same thing for Jason Lawrence he often dominated there. Getting noticed there I would say is exactly what it's for, just do a good job and you will get noticed, that doesn't mean you even have to win. But more importantly people should go there with the intention of having a great week with their family and friends, its a special place.

@sampearce6555

12 күн бұрын

Yeah that's well said. I remember as a kid being on the verge of crying when that week was over and having to leave. I never did all that well there but it was the best week of the year. Nothing like it. It's just special. Complain about the prices if you want but it's a honor to get to race there.

@Nick-xw3dk

12 күн бұрын

@@sampearce6555 I agree, money comes and goes you will always make more. I went to Loretta's in 2004, 2005, and 2022 to watch, whatever it cost I don't even remember now because the money is what it is but I still think about all those memories very frequently. Let's say it cost 10k, id say 10k is a pretty fair price for memories that still mean the world to me 20 years later.

Dude takes the side of whoever he's interviewing at the time.

@GYPSYTALES

12 күн бұрын

Like how we debated my point on privateers lol

@randallaumiller8628

12 күн бұрын

@@GYPSYTALES bum

@jamesnelson6381

12 күн бұрын

Interview was very soft IMO. You were defending him at the same time you were asking the question. Why? Were you afraid to upset him and put him on the spot?

@tcolley

11 күн бұрын

@@jamesnelson6381more value in keeping him talking than pushing back on a single issue and shutting him down

@yourfavoritelawnguy2722

10 күн бұрын

@@GYPSYTALES can never please everyone lol

I think the Loretta’s national needs to evolve by moving the location to Iron Man or Thunder Valley and rotate the LL track in every other year. Keep the same qualification process to receive a ticket.

@Nick-xw3dk

8 күн бұрын

This might be the worst opinion out of all the ones posted on this video. Its the "Loretta Lynn's Amateur National" because it's on Loretta's property. The second it leaves Loretta's property it is no longer "Loretta Lynn's Amateur National". No more of a simple way to explain this, some people just don't understand the importance of authenticity.

Cooksey called it a shit show?

He reminds me of Bernie Ecclestone, keeping F1 stuck in the Stone Age, preventing sport from evolving. Company like Liberty Media would 2x audience/ 4x value of MX in 3y like F1. TV rights / digital alone are a joke.

@kurtheidelbach

13 күн бұрын

There is one thing that the MX/SX community is extremely afraid of unfortunately and that's change.

@tcolley

12 күн бұрын

@@kurtheidelbachsure but I’m talking about sector timing, in helmet communication, digital strategy and monetization. Missed opportunities.

@FallenTimber

9 күн бұрын

⁠@@tcolley Fair point but that also assumes sector timing and in helmet communication and other “progress” is really progress, or a way of making the sport unattainable in the same way that F1 is. More money in a sport doesn’t necessarily equate to improvement.

@Nick-xw3dk

8 күн бұрын

@@FallenTimber I agree with you, everything on earth doesn't have to evolve for it to be enjoyed or to "grow". In helmet communication and all that other nonsense go completely out the window once JS and Ricky are battling the way they did in 2006 or 2007. That is truly what people want to see, the issue with the "evolving the sport" talk is where does it stop. You give them an inch and they take a mile. First its in helmet communication, next thing its well "we think" (suit and tie wearing fellas) the motorcycles need to levitate over the ground and not actually ride on the track. It never ends when you start going down this road. All we hear all the time is 450's are so developed now that they're actually too fast. So we are already evolving past the point of what's even needed to where they're trying to dial the bikes back. I think production does need to be more clear, better shots, maybe a netflix type behind the scenes type thing, and a more desirable network other than peacock which a lot of people dont even know exist.

Largest waste of money….

LL is so overrated!

@thedude7726

13 күн бұрын

You say that until you work your ass off to go race there. I managed to go once in 2006 and it was one of my favorite races I've ever done

@user-fe6jt1bj2f

13 күн бұрын

@@thedude7726no he is right. It is so overrated I’ve raced it 6 years in a row, this year my 7th and last and it’s crazy the amount of money and you don’t get anything out of it.

@Nick-xw3dk

12 күн бұрын

@@user-fe6jt1bj2f lol what a silly comment. "ive done it for 6 years in a row even though i hate it, this year is my 7th and will be the last"... Ok big guy why don't you sit the 7th year out then? Because you're a liar buddy thats why. I have touched a hot stove and burned myself for 6 years straight, I am going to now touch it again a 7th year but I promise this will be my last year touching the hot stove lol. THATS HOW YOU SOUND. And you sir don't get anything out of it because you don't place clearly.

@Nick-xw3dk

8 күн бұрын

@@user-fe6jt1bj2f definitely a lie. Real simple whats your name will look you up in the data base. Why would you race it a 7th if the first 6 were just so over rated lol.

@user-fe6jt1bj2f

7 күн бұрын

@@Nick-xw3dk 😂😂Michael Corcoran. and because it took me this long to realize that.. it just got bad after 2020 and the only reason I’m going again this year is because my younger brother is racing it too.