I hope more filmmakers choose to stay outside of LA and collectively destroy the LA monopoly over time by putting out top quality films in other cities/countries. It would be great for filmmaking as a whole to see LA regress and not be the only place to “make it”

@Canderson_Beats

2 жыл бұрын

I think it has already started with all the streaming services. KZread has also put a big dent in the studio system.

@ayubtube5513

Жыл бұрын

I love my barrio 😂 East Los Angeles

@viridianacortes9642

Жыл бұрын

It kinda started. They are building three separate sound stages in AZ. That is huge for someone like me (aka a filmmaker with no money and can’t move to LA). I heard many filmmakers (even established ones like Steven Spielberg) are coming to AZ, NM, and Georgia to make movies. The gatekeeping, hyper competition, and expansive living is driving many filmmakers out. Rob Schneider moved to AZ, and made a movie here too. It’s happening. Just wait a bit. And push your representatives to make tax incentives for film.

Don’t move to LA to be a filmmaker. Stay in your hometown and cultivate your trade, and what you create will be completely unique to where you are.

@filmcourage

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment, Jack. Has this been your experience?

@jwheeler1106

4 жыл бұрын

Film Courage It has! I realized after moving to LA, wait what have I done? All my ideas take place where I’m from, my hometown was my own personal studio essentially, and in LA I felt like I was simply waiting for someone’s permission to pump out the same old stuff the Hollywood system does. Couple that as well with tools such as KZread and other social media platforms where you can directly reach an audience, the notion of moving to Hollywood to “make it a big” becomes archaic. The internet has essentially broken down the gates for creative types.

@indiesindie1984

4 жыл бұрын

You are perfectly correct Mr. Wheeler!

@jwheeler1106

4 жыл бұрын

Wesley Insley Well in a case like that every town or city will usually have a college nearby. And those colleges will usually have some kind of film, theater, art & design program for any service you might be seeking. And college students and recent grads are more than happy to get experience so it’s a win win for both parties.

@reginayfavors

4 жыл бұрын

@@jwheeler1106 I like your reply because most of my thinking and ideas are based on living in Dallas, Texas. I will consider it. I do, however, want to work in a writer's room at least for five years. That goal might require me to move, but most of the work I have written has been drama, feature. Thank you for the insight.

Cheapest way to live in LA (and many parts of California). You get yourself a van and a membership at a 24-hour gym. I did it for 3 months when I was in my 20's and I was in the best shape of my life. 😎

@wataki2

4 жыл бұрын

Yep! You go in there and shower, eat, bathroom etc. But where did you park? Gym lot?

@69johndz

4 жыл бұрын

It depends. I know they are cracking down. Walmart parking lots should still be ok (they always had a policy that people can park there for free). I also got to know the security at my work and I would just sleep in the parking lot at my job. People would actually come out with a cup of coffee and tell me to get my ass up, lol. And I wasn't even in a van. I was in a 1996 Camero Convertible. That was not ideal. But if I had a cheap van or SUV...much more comfortable.

@wadebarnett2542

4 жыл бұрын

@@69johndz Watch the stealth car camping videos. One suggested sleeping in a vehicle in the Planet Fitness lot.

@oeu3669

4 жыл бұрын

69johndz wow what a story you have!!!

@EngineeringDept-WarriorTribe

4 жыл бұрын

Now it's the only way to live in LA, 😓get an LA fitness gym membership and live in your car.... it's not the American dream, it's the American reality.

"Moving to LA... that's the Superbowl." I have been reframing the Hollywood experience over the last several days since I initially watched this, and this is a very good comparison. There is so much extraordinary talent in LA, working at the highest levels, yet so many think that they can simply show up and get in the game. Great video and interview, thanks for posting this.

You can tell by the sound and tone of his voice, he’s a very sensible guy who has seen a thing or two.

@IAMDIMITRI

4 жыл бұрын

You mean he sound old?

@denniszenanywhere

4 жыл бұрын

@@IAMDIMITRI No.

@Naychurr123

4 жыл бұрын

No doubt hes' seen many things

@vanessadotson8067

4 жыл бұрын

@@IAMDIMITRI Good one

@mdkvisions

4 жыл бұрын

@@IAMDIMITRIBeing old doesn't mean you have lived an interesting life with unique experiences that you can share, there is a difference

This was the most honest interview of a creative artist, making the leap to Los Angeles. You know some people are either extremely negative, never stepped out to move, or bitter because they had to leave because they aren't willing to sacrifice.

@polestuntinwithkrista

7 ай бұрын

There is no money in any independent film distribution deal, no matter where you live. It's one big scam on filmmakers. I Executive produced a film with Oscar winning Producer and starring Oscar nominees...not a penny paid out by disteibutor. I been acting 20 years aside from that. All crew makes their money off the budget. The buck stops there going the traditional distribution route. EPs need a Union cause they provide the jobs. Instead sag calls weekly yelling for money from movies that havent made a penny. And film owners pay out of frustrating harrassment. Then investors don't ever do it again because they always end up in a deficit and harrassed. SO yeah its not about sacrifice. It's about knowledge and trusting yourself working with some shady people.

@satansplayground606

2 ай бұрын

​@@polestuntinwithkrista Exactly

The people who fail in life are not the people who aim high and miss, the people who fail are the people who aim low and hit.

@filmcourage

4 жыл бұрын

We like that one!

@omidfilms

4 жыл бұрын

toutdeed12 Most people during the California gold rush didn’t make money off gold, but the pursuit of gold unlocked their courage that was applied to other areas in life. The gold became irrelevant and the person they became was the treasure.

@blackswan4486

2 жыл бұрын

@@omidfilms the gold was a mcguffin

Loved the video. Great insight. The problem is this: people go out to L.A. with nothing. No money, no *real* plan, and no examples of the type of work they want to do. As someone who has lived in L.A. and left (when I was in Texas, I worked in film, when I was in L.A. I worked three jobs to survive, when I moved back to Texas, I worked in film again), my advice to people is Have Strong Examples Of The Exact Type of Work You Want to Do (!!!), have a Nest Egg (a big one), and plan for struggle and a long road up.

@bkb757

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve always been able to see myself living out there eventually, but I’m apprehensive because I know so many people don’t find the success they had hoped for

@DialloMoore503

4 жыл бұрын

Is Texas a good place for filmmaking? I’m considering Austin as a place to move to, but I heard it’s like LA and California in many ways. Is that true? Maybe you can provide some insight on this. Thanks!

@MikeOzmun

4 жыл бұрын

@@DialloMoore503 It's definitely a lot like L.A. in some ways culturally, at least compared to the rest of Texas, but as a resident of Austin for many years now, I can tell you it's a LOT cheaper to live here. I would only move here though if you're looking to crew up in a specific area (i.e. you are an experienced AD or Best Boy, and can immediately jump onto a pro set and hold your own) as the Hollywood film community here is very small, tight, and clique-ish, and hard to get into. The only other reason I would move to Austin if I were wanting to break into film, is because it is a cheapish place to live, while being able to find a lot of other people who also want to make films, and doing it together. Honestly, that second part is what I thought I was going to find when I moved to Los Angeles, but I couldn't really find it. Most people are either already in and don't need you, or are trying to use you somehow, or have no clue about how to make films and just thought moving to LA would make them a star. I won't pretend Austin is L.A., but for someone who does great work and wants to live reasonably while they do it and enjoy a lively film community , there is work here.

@MikeOzmun

4 жыл бұрын

@@bkb757 an old producer told me years ago, "success doesn't chase L.A., it makes L.A. chase it." Wish I had taken those words to heart when he spoke them. I would say, go to LA when you have some success already, and you have a very obvious and defined way to build on that success already mapped out. But that is just my opinion.

@JasonSatterlundDirector

4 жыл бұрын

@@bkb757 And that's the risk. But... depending on your goal, the risk might be worth it. The thing about LA is, that's where the decision makers are. There's also a huge advantage here because you have access to the best training by the best artists in the world. Every night of the week, someone is speaking, having a premier, teaching a class, etc. It's like an ongoing film festival. Just last night, there was a screening of Knives Out and director Ryan Johnson was doing a Q&A. It's awesome. Everyone out here is also highly motivated. I find it intoxicating.

This was fabulous, super sobering and helpful for me. Main takeaways 1. Know your actual goal. 2. Do your due diligence.

This interview validates that inner creative voice that you know is right when you have ideas to try something and make it work, versus following the way things are done that are already validated by the industry to work.

The glass ceiling outside of LA is pretty accurate.

Love how he tells it. Clear, to the point. Love it.

Him and his wife are amazing people and deserve everything coming to them!

Outstanding information for anyone thinking about moving to Los Angeles. I grew up in Orange County. All truth what he says of living in L.A. Lots of homeless people all over L.A. streets (something to think about). 13:06 Welcome to the Gig Economy of film making.

@ExistNNature

4 жыл бұрын

Yup! Go look at "Invisible People" on KZread, it says a lot about LA

@photonotavailable7936

3 жыл бұрын

@@ExistNNature Also, German in Venice.

Sobering and insightful stuff, thank you. Jason used the word “seasoned “ toward the end. I can’t help thinking that the experience of being an Indy outside LA results in a much more well rounded, multifaceted, roadworthy filmmaker in the long run. Having to deal with everything and wear many hats makes a producer/director a better team leader. Whereas Working in a compartmentalized system results in a compartmentalized (limited) skill set. Without that “right of passage” Indy experience, is anyone really ready for LA?

I lived in LA for 30 years and just recently moved to the midwest. I will say this if you are into writing, music or filmmaking you dont have to be in LA. There are ways to break through from the outside. I am making my film Aliens Zombies and Stoners. Hopefully you will hear a buzz soon.

@johndeggendorf7826

4 жыл бұрын

...alien zombies eat stoners...aka “edibles”, and experience feelings they’ve never felt before...yeah, this story has traction, bro.

@viridianacortes9642

Жыл бұрын

I wish you success. With more productions moving out of LA more than ever, let’s hope we all do better.

It's exactly the same for animation. The cost doesn't justify the gamble for me taking the leap moving so far.

Awesome insights. Thank you for sharing this video.

What are the most helpful parts of this video for you?

@captaincurd2681

4 жыл бұрын

The whole 16 minutes was helpful. Surviving in LA is a matter of concern for every outsiders.

Thank you for this! It's applicable to so many other "industries" and speaks to the "stay in your lane" rigidity of the "culture" and this guy is smart, honest and truly creative.

@daveindezmenez

5 ай бұрын

The "stay in your lane" mentality could be extremely stifling for a very creative person.

I was born and raised in Los Angeles County. Currently reside in the Sacramento area. Been to Portland and Seattle many times. I found this to be one of the most interesting videos I've ever watched on your channel. BTW, Ridley Scott started and worked in commercials for years. His second, repeat, second movie was Alien (1979).

I love Heather Graham's scene in Bowfinger as she gets off the bus in L.A. - "Is this where you go to be a movie star?"

Do you have to be in LA to pursue a career in filmmaking, music or acting? That’s the question that many aspiring artists ask often. I think the answer is NO. Robert Rodriguez never lived in LA and he made it. Same with Jason Mitchell. If you’re an actor you can do Skype/video auditions remotely. Moving here can help your career, but it’s hard to make it here. This town is full of scammers and hustlers. Be prepared for that. Go with your gut. I encourage you to move here and at least give it a try. Best wishes!

@Thespeedrap

4 жыл бұрын

Good advice I have gotten wish me luck.I hate Kansas.

@DialloMoore503

Жыл бұрын

@Ray Omari Thank you!

Hollywood, where the caste system is still the norm.

@justinajones3000

4 жыл бұрын

Truly is.

@leyenda6149

3 жыл бұрын

Not no more. Ho'Wood is woke up finally. Totally level playing field now plus predator system is exposed so no more quid pro quo, thank goodness.

It’s odd AF That this video is in my feed. I’ve been considering moving to LA. But, I haven’t googled anything , told anyone, text anyone about it. KZread is wylin in my thoughts🤯🤯😳😳.....

@Carl_Aznable

4 жыл бұрын

The Algorithm knows you better than you know yourself

This was such a great video. Even those who are not in the film industry can take away something from it. Love your work, Film Courage.

Recently made the leap to London from Canada. Even though it's a different city, everything he's talking about here is so relatable. So great to hear this and know some of the challenges I have are normal.

@oeu3669

4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Blacklock good luck Matthew!!! I’m leaping from london soon too!! Great to hear these perspectives!!

I moved to La in 2014 and left 2019… I said I could make it in my hometown, but man I think moving back to La is winning this battle right now as 80% of my work comes from there.

I have no intention of ever moving to LA or even working as a director, yet somehow this video fascinated me. The sheer genuineness of this guy's responses is stunning. What a thoroughly authentic interview! There he is, living in one of the most fake cities in the world, yet what a level of balanced honesty! I could listen to the guy all day. Thank you FC.

@filmcourage

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you GoldenEddie. We had a great interview with Jason. His journey offers us all a great perspective on having a love for filmmaking and what it takes to make it happen.

@goldeneddie

4 жыл бұрын

@@filmcourage You're welcome. And whilst I have the opportunity, a word of thanks for your journalistic style. Time and again your well considered questions really draw the best from your guests. In today's narcissistic 'selfie society', your off-camera presence is so discreet yet pivotal to every interview. Much appreciated.

Agree 100% with Jason, been through that living in LA for almost a decade. Was able to make films only by moving out of LA. Agreed Jason.

I enjoyed listening to Jason in this video, he seems really personable, frank and intelligent.

Great money in Commercials! Can make a fortune esp if it’s your production company and you direct and cinematography! That table top guy making great bucks and probably does what he wants! You can get free crew in LA people breaking into the industry! Roger Corman did it forever Jack Nicholson started with him! If you want you do it and you can succeed! I had a job with Panavision starting out and the guy who took over from me won an Oscar year’s later!

@sspbrazil

4 жыл бұрын

james fitzgerald meh

Really insightful, thank you.

Excellent interview!

@filmcourage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike, we had a great interview with Jason. Love his story, glad to share his insights.

The most helpful part was hearing about the real cost of moving and living in LA and the cost of Studio space. thank you

1:28 ... yes. specialization is how one makes a name for oneself.

Great calm honest interview you have a new subscriber

@filmcourage

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers! Welcome.

Film courage this is some solid content. I appreciate what you guys do ! 💯💪🎥

@filmcourage

4 жыл бұрын

We had a great time with Jason Satterlund. Love his story and respect the work that he has put in and the perspective he has. Glad to see you find value here.

@BryanTerrySnell

4 жыл бұрын

Certainly agreed! Gonna check you guys out on Instagram also 🤙

Film courage you offer so much insight into the industry. You definitely deserve more views

@filmcourage

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers, thank you for this view Tekky Thai!

One thing I would have liked knowing before I moved here is, I wish I had known that theatre isn't nearly as popular as it is in the East coast and Mid West.

@heeeresjohnny7503

4 жыл бұрын

Well ya. Why would you do theater in HOLLYWOOD??!! Its Hollywood; The MOVIE capital of the world.

@musicianfriendly2005

4 жыл бұрын

M O N E Y Theres the answer..

@theoriginaltommysteward

4 жыл бұрын

Seems like a simple Google search could've cleared that up...

@SuperRONDALE

4 жыл бұрын

AnarchYxNoob you’re probably seen more than people not doing theatre and are just trying to network

@Simz199x

3 жыл бұрын

@@heeeresjohnny7503 😂😂😂

Needed to hear this 😅

Jesus!! This is sooo accurate..I'm in year 6 lmao...3rd year working in a diff industry to support my family and stay afloat. 😖😖😖 The depression and mental battle is real..if you want to direct/write movies and your new I don't think LA is the place to start...unless you got an account full of money or a 100 person deck 😂😂.

The modern Hollywood market is volatile, thanks to tech. Some must live in L.A. for success, some do not. George A. Romero. To live in L.A. but having to leave for cheaper location says alot. The system of filmmaking is changing. Film is not even used primarily anymore. This video, was watched, on my two inch cellphone screen. Entrepreneur visionaries change things and then everyone copies them.

@MrArtist1971

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

Thank you 💞

Great truth!

I did the NYC film thing and always wondered what life would have been in LA. I ended shooting in LA a few times and attended the Grammy's there but there seemed to be a level of "desperation?" from all the overflow of people flocking to LA to "make it" (a waitress put on an unwanted one woman show for us at dinner) The Grammy's was at the Staples center, not very glamorous like Radio City in NY. I saw people chowing down on McDonald's hamburgers in their expensive dresses and Tuxes before the show. Rick Springfield standing in the rain waiting for a car. Tim Curry looking out at the window at downtown LA during a lull in his career (just seemed sad). LA beaches are the best, The features that come out of Hollywood are spectacular, but endless traffic on the 405 was horrific. I DO believe the film world "Nichifies" you and forces you the specify exactly what you do. That has always been my problem with the industry, but if you really want to show the world your talents and play in the Big Leagues then LA and NY are it.

great insight .......

Yes so true. LA is pricing people out daily.its also way too toxic to live or raise kids imo.Atlanta has tons of work for features rn, and seems more affordable

@ethannielson942

4 жыл бұрын

Dallas Dan Digital Productions But like he said all the main hiring is out of Los Angeles or New York. They only use Atlanta because it’s cheaper as a ‘right to work’ state, where they by and large underpay their crews and extras. And don’t count on places like the Tyler Perry Studios for a break. They are as difficult to penetrate as any of the major studios in LA.

@Thespeedrap

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethannielson942 I hate Tyler Perry

@theoriginaltommysteward

4 жыл бұрын

100%. The internet is making the coasts obsolete as far as needing them to succeed. I'll take moderate success in a place I like and can think in any day over massive success in LA. Just moved after living there for five years. Best decision ever.

@ethannielson942

4 жыл бұрын

Tommy Steward What do you do for a living, if you don’t mind my asking?

@theoriginaltommysteward

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethannielson942 I shoot and edit TV shows. Moreso edit now though!

More than half of all the movies i see are made in Georgia..

@ms.5779

3 жыл бұрын

@M.M.M. But the deals, lunches, coffees etc..are made in L.A

@ColeHrusovsky

3 жыл бұрын

Marvel Studios is filming like 3 TV shows and 2 movies in Atlanta as I type.

@dallasdandigitalproduction393

3 жыл бұрын

Atlanta is the 3rd coast of film and tv rn. Its worth exploring. I may go there after i graduate

if you are good at what you do you can get a job working in the film industry in LA. Once you start working in LA that will take up most of your time and you will need to be very determined to make your own film with the limited free time outside of work. Your industry friends most likely will be in the same boat. And if you tell someone in LA "I want to make my own film" everyone's "yeah, so what?". So there are many filmmakers in LA working in the industry but I do not see many making their own films.

Stumbled on this, seems like an honest guy, wish him luck

@filmcourage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by. Nice to see this video reaching more people.

A lot of times when someone moves to LA and "makes it" they find out that it wasn't what it was cracked up to be. As far as working in other areas (corporate video, commercials, etc.) it's really going to depend on what sort of work you are doing as to if they will be helpful. If you are a cinematographer there's certainly going to be jobs outside of the "big time" in LA where you can hone your skills but other areas of work might have more limited requirements that these other kinds of jobs can fulfill.

Here you go kiddies, this is what it takes and what we are looking forward to

I just spoke to my mum about this very subject 5 mins ago. Then this pops up! Google is listening hmmmm

Walt Disney did the same to migrate back to Kentucky to develop his animation studio back in the early 1900s. Los Angeles is just crazy expensive for permits of any kind.

@412vw6

4 жыл бұрын

Land of the FEE and Permits

My hurdle is the lack of money. If I had the money, I would've moved there YEARS ago and been working in the industry doing work I like far more than what I'm doing now.

Good video I always was fascinated with LA and Hollywood filmmaking.It's just frustrating that there's not enough good material being made and put out.I want and wish to see people taking risks and giving people opportunities.

Collab with Kirsten Dirksen channel to interview LA newcomers about their goals in the movie industry while you tour their cost saving tiny house on wheels.

Sooooo...... LA sucks.... I've known that for 20 years..

The cost of dealing with L.A. Unions are the reason many productions leave town.

@illapuproductions

4 жыл бұрын

commies

@sebaba001

4 жыл бұрын

Unions wouldn't exist in the first place if companies didn't constantly undercut everyone to not make 400m on their bluckbuster but instead 450. Film industry producers are some of the scummiest people I've seen.

I had a great passion in life. And I had 3 or 4 possible careers to pursue related to it. All of them would have required considerable luck and the approval of others to succeed. Instead, I chose an unrelated career that paid the bills at a rate twice what I needed to live . . . and spent every other year pursuing my passion full-time. I succeeded.

@DialloMoore503

4 жыл бұрын

QED God bless you.

@filmcourage

4 жыл бұрын

What is the passion? How old were you when you made this decision and how many years did it take?

@QED_

4 жыл бұрын

@Film Courage: I was 23 years old and turned down a graduate scholarship to an elite university. Instead, I learned to code -- lots of available work (at that time) that paid twice what I needed to live (not married, no children). So I only worked 20 of the next 40 years . . . and did what I wanted to do full-time during the other 20. Interestingly, it took just about the 10,000 hours that Malcolm Gladwell says it takes to do anything really well: 20 hours a week for 10 years. So I was about 43. The rest since then . . . has just been extra added bonus.

@QED_

4 жыл бұрын

@BLACK MAN: "Mashallah . . ."

@filmcourage

4 жыл бұрын

Love this story. Great to see your belief in yourself and your work ethic pay off. We imagine there may have been people close to you who didn't understand you turning down that scholarship. We know how hard it is to balance full-time work and full time passion. Thank you for sharing.

I'm the other half of FratelliWren. This channel has to be one of the single most excellent resources for film-makers (new & old), on the Internet, today (2022).

I love this video, I had this thought today at work. As an aspired filmmaker (a newcomer to film, very passionate about film) I think about my career and a move in the future.. I think about it everyday. It’s very scary and interesting. I live in Arizona btw.

@jeantuite-actress--imdb

4 жыл бұрын

ive moved bk and forth some from tx at least youre in less expensive az and you could just travel to LA some Ive thought abt NM too being inexpensive and between LA and TX

@viridianacortes9642

Жыл бұрын

Since you live in Az…what do you think about film in AZ now? They are building three separate sound stages in AZ. And some prominent production’s are coming here. Also, there’s the new tax incentive. What are your thoughts?

There's quite a few photographers who live just off of product photography. I know a guy who works full time at an auction house just photographing all their stuff full time.

@EmoEmu

3 жыл бұрын

Product photography of something like high end watches and jewelry is a science and it's insane what they do to slowly remove every little unwanted reflection. It takes forever and they get paid very well if they get to the point of working for premium brands. It takes a lot of skill.

I’m building portfolio before moving over there

Dope demo reel!

I am aiming to own my production team in DC/MD in 2020. LA is so overpriced and it takes too long to put out projects.

@MelvinMcVinci

Жыл бұрын

Isn't DC ridiculously expensive too?

We were just told "Stay in your lane" working on a TV series as a Carpenter"

@blackswan4486

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus was a carpenter. Imagine if he were told to stay in his lane

I just moved out here to L.A. from the East Coast three months ago. Living out of my car because the rents are ridiculous. At present, I'm working at Universal Studios Theme Park and they have showers there (or I make other arrangements). So I moved out here because I thought every block you turn, there's a production going on, but its not like that at all. I have not seen one and my work is IN Hollywood. I don't like L.A., it's certainly the grind although I do like other parts of California. Maybe L.A. is for people who are willing to sell their soul, that's not me. Coming out here to be a filmmaker, I don't find much natural beauty like I do in other parts of the country. And anything you do choose to shoot, it has already been shot a million times. After paying 5 bucks for gas the other day, and so many restaurants closed up, and having to wear a mask in L.A. County, it certainly takes the fun out of it. Not to mention how dirty it is and how bad the roads are. If you have a picture of L.A. from the movies, I'm sorry, you've been deceived. For example, if you go to the beach where they shot Baywatch, you would be completely surprised, there's nothing there but a parking lot. The movies/tv have an allure on purpose but it's all fake. So get that Hollywood version of Hollywood out of your head, it's all made up. I'm definitely moving out of here, not sure where, but somewhere that I can film great stories with great sceneries. Let's be real, L.A. is antiquated and you might have better luck where you are right now. But I welcome you to come out here and see if you like the vibe. If I do leave, the thing I will miss the most is In-n-out burger. What does that tell you?

If you have a story to tell, then tell it. Los Angeles is thoroughly irrelevant.

@ExistNNature

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed!!

Okay, but he doesn’t seem to know the meaning of “glass ceiling.” He faced a ceiling living outside of L.A., meaning there was only so much work and only certain types of filmmaking wirk available. A GLASS ceiling refers to working somewhere where there’s a higher level available, and you can see it, but you’re prevented from being able to reach it, because those at the top won’t allow you to rise to that level, usually because of discrimination against you, for whatever reason. You just don’t fit the mold that others have designed.

@sebaba001

4 жыл бұрын

Well, usually outside of LA the only way to make a good living is running your own business, as an employee you never get paid too much or get much of the spotlight. If you can't afford to put on your own studio then it's pretty difficult to get a studio running, if the companies you work in avoid to put you in direct contact with the producers they work with it also becomes difficult.

@oeu3669

4 жыл бұрын

K Will loled at the wife analogy. Gud1

@SouthpawLD

4 жыл бұрын

@K Will Well said

@viridianacortes9642

Жыл бұрын

Classism, nepotism and gatekeeping is one of the things that is driving movie productions and studios out of LA (aside from how expensive Cali is becoming). It’s weird watching this video two years later. So much has happened since then in AZ. They passed a tax Incentive and now they are building a studio sound stage here (close to the size of warners). Things are changing for sure. NM and Georgia are also becoming a big hub for movies.

Robert Rodriguez isn't in the big boys?

Ridley Scott did I think 2000 commercials in his early days.

No way I'd live in New York or LA but I don't really care if I'm ever the top table top camera op! 😀 Great interview!!

@filmcourage

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I don't want to be famous, or "Make it Big" [If those things happen, I'm fine with it] ...but really, I just want to get paid for the job I enjoy doing, which is acting. I'm not looking to be a star. I just want enough money to eat, to live comfortably, and to continue working on projects that I can look back on and feel like I didn't waste my time. Projects I can be proud of. The way Bob Hoskins is proud of his work on the Super Mario Bros movie, lol. So... What do you think? Advice? Is LA the place for me?

@filmcourage

4 жыл бұрын

Here's one guy who has done it. He's retired now but he shares a lot about his journey and the business - kzread.info/dash/bejne/aoyDt5eeqMaXgKw.html And here's another guy who has done it and is still going - kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXWmtLKupcfQnaQ.html

@JasonSatterlundDirector

4 жыл бұрын

I would say, absolutely not. It's very tough to survive as an actor in LA. Maybe the toughest of all. However, everyone I know who lives in a decently sized city with some sort of film industry, seems to do okay. You can do even better if you live near a hub city like Atlanta or New Orleans. I know a lot of actors who lived in LA, rarely booked any gigs, then moved to Vancouver or whatever and started working all the time. And vice versa. So, if your goal is to support your family and be happy doing that, then you can definitely do that. You can work a lot doing commercials and corporate too, and that pays pretty well. Voice over acting is another arena that is a ton of fun and you can make a wonderful living doing. The options are endless.

That really sucks with the nepotism. Doesn’t mean that they are more talented than those outside of the business.

Or... go to NYC. I've lived here several years, now a full-time actor. I do TV, indie films, commercials and lots of voiceover. These days you can do work on both coasts, but you have to pick a primary city and put most of your focus on the local work.

8:28 Or... Are not American citizens and have to figure out how to get into the country before figuring out how to get to LA ^_^'

@brunayamaguchi9664

4 жыл бұрын

This

Its funny, any other profession would be 100% about getting a range of experience everywhere. Except filmmaking in holywood :)

The question to ask about making the sacrifice to live in LA is if you do achieve your objective, is it worth it? It may end up being a horrible life, despite having "made it".

@sheldonhollis5258

4 жыл бұрын

People born and raised in LA and NY are the most privilleged people in US

What you all need is a good story, that would definitely pay the bills on real terms. The actors enhance the story and should be so lost in it you don’t see them but you are in the story. Paying for celebrity alone does not make a work of art or historical piece. I lived the story and to cap it off, or should I say offset the experience, I bought a place in Camarillo...just like the movies.

Application and Sacrifice!!!!!!!!

He could have built a tiny home...for at least half his moving expenses...

Living IN L.A. seems to me would be a creativity killer. Too corporate, too many voices in your ear, too much goin on to keep your eye on the ball. Working for a major production kills the personality of everything. Its only because of "bad taste" that anything marketable comes from L.A.

@defaultworkouts

4 жыл бұрын

then make your own KZread channel. screw others. plenty have done it. no woe is me BS. get away from that negative mindset.

LA is a crowded wasteland full of cardboard condos and plethora of wannabe actors. My excitement for LA lasted about two hours. I do enjoy the beaches.

@Eidelmania

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you left.

@satansplayground606

2 ай бұрын

This is terribly accurate; sometimes you just gotta know when to leave

This interview just help me answer my question of moving to L.A

Hey, NOBODY starts at the top. Embrace the challenge to find whats right for you.

For casting, why can't more speaking roles, even minor ones, be cast locally at the location?

@reuteratwork8983

4 жыл бұрын

Because LA is already set up for casting calls -- the casting directors all know what they're going to be dealing w/, & LA is the biggest pool of potential talent -- w/ other cities, your casting director would have to go & set up an office there, put out a call, & hope that the right people showed up to audition -- it's just a lot easier to do it where the bulk of the business takes place...

@pahwraith

2 жыл бұрын

You need to be 100 percent sure your actor will deliver his lines like a pro. Its too expensive to hold up a whole production for an inexperienced actor. You cant afford to fuck around.

No disrespect, but hands down, L.A. has the creme de la creme as far as crews and crafts people.

moving to anywhere means ZERO. what matters is your talent and hard work. even back in montana or some small unknown town in a 3rd world country. a place has nothing to do with how far you can go. your mind and discipline make it happen. this woe is me bullshit is what ruins people. everyone is selfish and liars everywhere. deal with it. grow up and learn how to manage this.

I'm moving to Calgary for a lady... but also, for movies?

If your a British actor coming to L.A you have Greater chance at becoming to An actor in London and get noticed in America which they will hire you

You know what? You can live there and hate it. I did. I am not a fan of the lifestyle,. I love the Northern part. I used to love the San Joaquin Valley. But basically, not a California person.

We better get going if we’re going to stay ahead of the weather... Anyone else have this thought cross their mind when watching this guy? Lol

I like how everything that isn't making movies is "having a job"... :D

@greekguytalks

4 жыл бұрын

to bad about Weinstein.... if only I knew before I would have gone up to him with my jockstrap and ask him for a part. Heard he made a lot of successful people in the "industry"

Don't come to LA to be the next filmmaker or because you majored in film. I met two people with that mindset and they work in hospitality and minimum wage respectively. #snowbirds

So many assumptions and complete wrong statements in this clip, it`s actually impressive how much he can be wrong...."The very top you can get to, unless you live in LA, is shooting commercials for companies, or independent films"...Hmm, ok. I guess they don`t make movies in France, Sweden, Korea, UK etc that are Oscar nominated every year, and are not commercials or independent films....Open your eyes, widen your horizon, films are actually made outside of the United States!

When I’m in LA, I always feel like it’s a city of broken dreams, only because muholland drive, anywhere but here, short cuts and down in the valley made me think that way. I like la la land, but that’s not the LA I know. Anyone think this way about LA?

@jeantuite-actress--imdb

4 жыл бұрын

ive moved bk and forth some from less expensive TX Im in Hollywood again im open to living in less expensive areas of CA NM or AZ also Because of priciness of it all the go big or go home is definitely a felt pressure unless youre in tip top shape to work numerous actor or industry friendly jobs in addition to your paid creative work No more time for food hugs and credits anymore Must be paid now or yesterday lol

that northwest boy part is real haha

you could not pay me to move back to the people's republic of commiefornia

@sheldonhollis5258

4 жыл бұрын

You were more privileged than the majority of us have to save and move there. I hate seeing you guys waste your privillege

@theoriginaltommysteward

4 жыл бұрын

This is a dumb thread

@rubynibs

4 жыл бұрын

@@sheldonhollis5258 Had you live in LA for any length of time, you'd understand why Marie left it and never looked back. It's not the LA it was even as late as 2000. I'd never move back there. The air quality alone is not worth living there.

@sheldonhollis5258

4 жыл бұрын

@@rubynibs But what about people who want to get in the industry? What other choice do they have?