What Makes the Q400 Amazing
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The Bombardier Dash 8 Q400's design is what allows it to do such an amazing job in the skies. In this video we go over why the aircraft uses turboprop engines, why the horizontal tail is situated where it is, and the geometry of the landing gear + wings in X-Plane 11.
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0:00 Introduction
1:03 History
1:51 Q400's mission
2:48 Why turboprops?
4:10 Turboprop benefits and limitations
5:05 Horizontal stabilizer
6:12 Wing design
7:54 Conclusion
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Quick note: at 3:26 I mention that turboprops fly slower than jet aircraft. This is generally true, but I could have demonstrated it better by comparing True Air Speed (TAS) instead of Indicated Air Speed (IAS) as I did in the video. Comparing IAS is not a good idea since it is not your actual speed through the air, and it's also dependent on altitude. Long story short: since jet aircraft fly higher, this helps them in actually flying faster (even though IAS may give the impression you're flying slower). Thanks!
@SurgInnovatioNow
Жыл бұрын
8:24 Thanks Max, Great video about de Havillands latest VSTOL the elegant Q400. The Q400 is one of my favourite aircraft as well, and describing the plane as beautiful is no exaggeration. Like the other de Havilland greats, the Beaver, the Otter, and the Mosquito, the Q400 has a holistic design which creates an all-around resonance. You point out that it is this feature of mutual design integrity which brings all the praise. I would love to hear about the Q400’s excellent safety record, its innovative noise-dampening system, and its ice management system. Lastly, doesn't this de Havilland deserve a better animal name?
@Dan-xo9ly
Жыл бұрын
Unless you are flying in the russian bear!
@BattShytKuhraezy
11 ай бұрын
6 miles a minute EASILY vs 9 ... N O T that slow
@ChrisCokeRobinson
6 ай бұрын
Who told you that bs about the Dash 7 using 4 engines to reduce noise? It uses 4 engines to be powerful. It's an STOL aircraft
A whole series on the dash 8 would be incredible!
@lloydertel1
Жыл бұрын
you should have lived through the story. My dad started working in DHC back in 1962. and I was there when the Dash 8 series 100 rolled out... the people that were there, were awesome. they would talk to you about the next IMPROVEMENT. a bigger or longer dash 8. I saw the first take-off of all 5 versions. and it is sad to see them go
@davidyoung3288
Жыл бұрын
yes;
Holy crap. I'm in your video! At 1:36 the pilot in the right seat is me! I flew the Dash 7 for six and a half years. Great plane! Built like a tank.
@dudfromnowhere
7 ай бұрын
Congrats bro!
Really awesome! Love how the physics gets visualized in X-Plane 11! Have been really enjoying the Q4XP a lot these days! Definitely feel free to build a series on the Q400 design!
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying Q4XP :)
The Q400 is my favourite plane. I fly it with WestJet on most flights I take. One thing I've always found amazing about the Q400 is just how fast it is for a propeller-driven/turboprop aircraft. Its cruise speed of 667 km/h (414 mp/h), while slower than jets, is faster than the majority of propeller-driven/turboprop aircraft. The Q400 is a very common sight at my airport, Fort St John Regional Airport CYXJ. They are also very common in Canada, WestJet has 47 Q400's and Air Canada has 44 Q400's.
@Tjetz777
Жыл бұрын
My first Q400 flight was on a WestJet, a beautiful and powerful turboprop plane. 👍
@ryandymond2195
Жыл бұрын
@@Tjetz777 So Beautiful
@therandomytchannel4318
8 ай бұрын
Yes, sometimes I get the q400 around BC or with flights to Alberta, all around good plane, short takeoff run and when they land you can feel when they reverse the prop pitch from pull to Push 😊 , 1 hour flights are just fine in these planes 🎉
@drewpatterson8261
Ай бұрын
First time on a Q400 was with Porter. Flying out of Billy Bishop. Sometimes I'll head down to the waterfront and just watch the Q400's land and take off from Billy Bishop.
Would love a more in-depth description on the aspect ratio, aerodynamics of different wing designs beyond the basics and from an Aero Engineer's perspective.
I'm profoundly happy I found this channel. Honestly not even sure you could improve on this -- bravo!
Loved the vid! Great stuff, keep up the good work! I love seeing new aviation content creators pop up
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
I agree with the other comments to develop an entire series to discuss the various aspects of the Q400 design. That would be awesome. You do a wonderful job of explaining the subject matter. Great work!!!!!!
@FlyByMax
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
Hi Max, nice work. I love the simplicity of the Dash-8, especially in the cabin - no fancy computer screens to interrupt casual conversation with fellow passengers. Ahh, what air travel used to be like.
Keep doing such vids am really happy how u explained
This deserves 50k subscribers at a bare minimum.
@FlyByMax
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Mjr._Kong
Жыл бұрын
@@FlyByMax Yes sir, please keep the content coming. We'll spread the word!
Hi Max. Superb video. I'm a bumbling X-Plane user, but I'm interested in the details of airplanes and flight, and your explanation was outstanding: clear, concise and informative. The flight sim community really benefits from videos of this quality. Like others, I feel you deserve a huge subscriber base, so I'll join the team. Thanks very much!
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
I can't overstate how grateful I am for this comment. I always thought the internet was an unforgiving and harsh place, but because of people like you this couldn't be further from the truth. It's almost overwhelming, and inspires me beyond you can imagine. I'm going to try and pay your kindness forward both online and offline. Thank you Damon.
@damonoriente736
2 жыл бұрын
@@FlyByMax You're welcome. My compliments and appreciation are genuine. YT comments are much too often miserable, so for all us us, making the effort to be kind is important. The good human thing to do!
No idea how this vid popped up on my recommended but I'm glad it did! Subscribed, keep up the good work!
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
This means a lot, thanks for your kind words :)
Thank you for the video max! Yes please make a series, I'm interested in learning whatever it is you can share. it is just a cool to know thing for me. Appreciate the video bro!
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I've got something coming out soon that you may like :) Cheers!
Correction - The horizontal stabilizer provides downforce for stability not lift - Additional airflow from the propellers causes the nose to pitch up - Not down.
Thank you Max, such awesome content mate. I would live to learn more, please keep up the great work 👍
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
Im doing my ATPL's rn and my instructor flew a dash 8 for flybe, great plane, my other instructors were pilots for the hercules, phatoms, 747s, 737s but theres somthing so great about the dash 8's
Informative, excellent detail and superb graphics. Yes, would love more - such as flaps and slat operations, landing gear and that bit about cabin pressure levels prior to opening hatches after landing. 👍
Beautifully condensed, Mac...More strength to you, in your future videos, to enhance the learning and comprehension of ppl who wish to learn👍
@FlyByMax
6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
Max, as you may know, hor-stabs are airfoils that are "flipped upside down" which create "lift" in the opposite direction, when sufficient airflow is flowing over and under it. Therefore what you'll have is a plane that tends to pitch up not down. Since you mentioned the Twin Otter... I suggest you google am image of it again and look at where the hor-stabs are positioned on it... they are right in the flow of thrust generated by the props.
Great video, Max - and this is my favorite airliner to fly in Xplane - I spend pretty much my whole time on VATSIM in this plane (and the rest in the Twin Comanche for GA).
I absolutely love the dash 8, and was super excited to see this video! I would love to learn more about this beautiful aircraft if you were willing to put in the time to make that series! Thank you so much for sharing this insight! 🙂 Best of luck with the channel! Subbed!
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful comment, thank you for taking the time out to write such kind words. I'm currently working on the next one, and people like you make more of a difference than you could ever imagine. Wish you all the best. -Max
I would definitely watch and surely enjoy a series on the Dash 8
Awesome video Max!!
Tank you very much for all informations :)
Love flying in this aircraft, always a pleasure.
I love the view of the landing gear
Excellent video / explanation... thank you!
This made me miss flying the Q4XP in XP11. Truly one of the best (if not the best) turboprop sim out there. A close tie with the Hotstart TBM tbh. Great vid!
Thanks max, I enjoyed your way of presenting and explaining 👍
This particular model seems to have a history of landing gear troubles. I’m interested in seeing an extended series on this plane. Well Done Sir.
Terrific job!
Well done video!!! Thank you
Great video, deserves more views
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
In high school my shop teacher told us that before he retired from dehaviland he worked as an engineer responsible for the landing gear design for the dash 8. I didn’t appreciate this at the time. His name was Mr Fraser, I don’t remember his first name. Really smart guy.
Very interesting details... I've been thining of getting this regional airliner, since I have no turboprop aircrafts. This coould be truly a game changer for me... Thanks for the info. 🙂
Great breakdown on the design of the Dash 8. You should definitely explore different aircraft in the same way.
I worked with both the -7 and 8. I always found the 7 the more fascinating. Seeing it's STOL capabilities was really pretty spectacular! Alas it was slow and more expensive to run.
"Flight simulation is about learning". Finally someone said it! Thank you 🙂
@FlyByMax
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Kindly continue with the Q400 series, awaiting more of your content
Im taking a QANTAS Dash 8 400 from Brisbane to Longreach tommorrow. I loved the F27 Friendship, which was much loved here in Australia. However, i think the Dash 8 is a great replecement for the Friendship. It has proved itself well.
great movie. concise but clear descriptions and detailed animation.
@FlyByMax
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
You made a mistake at 5:27. You showed the horizontal stabiliser to create lift and raise the tail section, but in fact, the center of gravity is usually located in front of the center of pressure. The C of G pulls down, while the centre of pressure acts upwards as in lift (wings). This means that the horizontal stabilizer on the empennage section is mounted in such a manner as to put a downward pressure on the tail section, not up.
@jond3929
8 күн бұрын
The point being made was that if the horizontal stabilizer was flush with the engines, the high speed air pushed backwards from the engines would pass over the horizontal stabilizers and the stabilizers themselves would create extra lift. The extra lift at the far rear of the aircraft would force the tail up and the nose down. Think of it as the center of pressure being moved further rearward causing the tail to lift.
@dc0911
8 күн бұрын
@@jond3929 that’s the point, the horizontal stabilizer is an airfoil that is mounted upside down on most airplanes so that airflow creates a downward force on the tail, not upwards. So increase airflow would increase downwards pressure.
@TimAyro
7 күн бұрын
@@jond3929 Horizontal stabilizers make lift DOWNWARD. It would push the nose up, not down. That's simple aerodynamics.
Small correction but if the horizontal stabilizer is behind the downwash if would cause it to generate more down force, not lift, since the airfoil shape is cambered upwards, so it would pitch nose up not nose down.
I am a frequent flyer on 400 Air Canada Express. Only problem what we run into quite often the lock of the luggage room. Sometimes the grand crew having difficult time to be able to fit all of the luggages and yes, we need to double the plane with a second 400, efficiency is gone. Other then that this little "Deery" is so much fun to fly and so cute! Yes, as you mentioned the braking power of the props reversing flow is amazing! Winter time on slippery runways is much much safer than the runners brake! Love this bird! ❤
@regnorse
3 ай бұрын
youre never scared the propellers will stop turning?
I love this video, really informative and interesting. The Q4XP is definitely my favourite aircraft just so much more refreshing than the 737 or A320
@FlyByMax
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
I believe the main reason for the elevated horizontal stabilizer is the aggressive, stylish statement it makes. I liken it to ending a sentence with an exclamation mark, rather than a period. Why do I believe this? Because I choose to! Great Video, Thanks!
Amazing channel
I would define like to learn more about the various aircraft components such as the ailerons, flaps & why the horizontal stab is mounted high on the tail as opposed to the standard fuselage mounts Thank you for sharing.
i would love to see more
The fact this does a barrelroll is amazing. The skyking brought me here!
Great video ! We can feel a certain admiration of this aircraft in your voice that made your video again more interesting ! You deal with original topics it’s nice, I learnt a lot on the design choices of this Dash 8 I would be interested to see your playlist on aerodynamics :) Just a remark, 3:28 maybe you should not have compared IAS for cruise speed because of the 10K feet differences, GS (and even TAS) would have been much more relevant to see how really big is the cruise speed difference between a turboprop and a turboreactor
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)) your remark is absolutely correct, and you're completely right, that would have made an even stronger point about the differences between the two. Thanks for teaching me something as well!
I love this plane.
Asian Spirit a small airline in the Philippines has Dash 8 and used in short runways of the old airport such as Caticlan as its a STOL. Now Q400 NextGen was used by Philippine Airlines.
This is interesting, I'd like to see more!
I'm watching this Aviation Video Topic on The Dash 8-400's The Dash 8 Family of Turboprops which I fly on back in the Day I hoped to fly on There Q400's Turboprops in the near future Awesome Video Man 100%
comon do it, we want longer more detailed vids. love this channel.
Nice to see EBAW in your video, this is where i do my flight training
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
Wat zijn de kansen :) when I was recording I thought I had some scenery for it!
@beau4690
2 жыл бұрын
@@FlyByMax Are you Belgian by any chance? I see a lot of Brussels airlines and EBBR in your video's
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
@@beau4690 I am!
@beau4690
2 жыл бұрын
@@FlyByMax very nice, i definetly couldn't tell by your accent, you sound so english. Anyways keep up the good work!
@FlyByMax
2 жыл бұрын
@@beau4690 I'm half-half, but my English is a little bit better than my Dutch (Vlaams), thanks!
I took the Dash 8-400 for the first time with Air-Canada from Bathurst N-B to Montreal Qc. It was a 90 minutes flight, the flight it self went pretty good. The only complaint I have it the seat are thight.
Please make another part this was amazing
Great video and since its 2 years old i kinda was looking forward to watching some more of your dash 8 content. Unfortunately i saw your last video was a year ago. I hope you are doing well.
@FlyByMax
5 ай бұрын
Hi! Thanks for your comment. As it happens, I'm working on something big right now that should be published by the end of next month. Cheers :)
@7249xxl
5 ай бұрын
@@FlyByMax good to hear and can't wait!
@FlyByMax
3 ай бұрын
Hi, new video is out :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/opqIxqx9YrLHm6Q.html
Come back loved the video want more!
Flown on one twice, very powerful on take off, around 1500 ships horse power each engine, ,think in the late eighties jersey European used to fly them from Birmingham to Majorca, great plane.
@psions555
4 ай бұрын
If I had a time machine I would love to sit on one of those flights. Loads of Ozzy Osbourne types that have filled their luggage with the food they eat at home normally 😂
@antonycollins22
4 ай бұрын
@@psions555 😀
Dash 7 & 8 would be awesome…air Tindi is the largest single operator of the rare type now. I was fortunate to ride in one back in the mid 80s on a flight to Penticton from YVR. Certainly the aircraft wasn’t breaking a sweat on that flight, but I am glad to say I have been on it. The Quad Otter.
Please do make a series out of this!
The most awesome feature is self folding main landing gear during landing ;))))
This is first airliner and my favorite airliner. I fly Majestic's sim as I don't use X-Plane right now.
Excellent video although I think you meant "horizontal stabiliser" at 5:28" rather than vertical stabiliser aka the tail fin. Do please do that video on the Dash 7 - a fascinating aircraft.
About to take off in a q400 in a few minutes :)
series would be very cool! pls cover the phenom 300, the gulfstream 550, and the falcon 8x. all of which are in xp11/12
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It's an absolutely brilliant plane. A bit of a handful to fly in turbulence or to land smoothly, but that makes it more interesting & satisfying, too. And let's not forget, it is massively over-powered! In other than tropical air, it will hit VMO with an engine out!
I was on a turboprop once already, but I'm still looking for a chance to flying a Dash 8. Way back I got a hop in an RCAF Buffalo. But I'm thinking it was different somehow. My Grandfather flew a De Havilland Mosquito in the war. He was killed on ops in 1943. My dad liked to tell a tory about the time he saw a De Havilland Beaver take off in the _width_ of the runway and then coming around over the airfield, throttling back and actually move backwards relative to onlookers. It was obviously a very windy day.
Australian Regional Arline Cabin Crew interview brought me here!
I'm watching this dreaming that soon enough Majestic will bring their excellent Dash 8 to MSFS. They've announced the Q400 but also the smaller variants!
Sheesh series on the dash 8? 😳😳
I wish you created more content on this stuff! Come back!
Hello, is there a way or add-on to tire smoke on landing? Also some aircraft have smoke on start. Any help would be appreciated. Ty.
4:53 You definitely need stairs or a belt loader to load the Q400. Unlike the earlier Dash-8s, the Q400 sits nose down tail up, and thus the baggage compartment sits quite far off the ground.
Great video. I fly in the Q400 regularly and I'm interested in the Q designation. I assume they play the engine noise 180 degrees out of phase to cancel the noise, but my, it is a noisy aircraft. Especially when taxiing when there is a mid range whirring/growling sound on some of them.
@rowdus6186
Күн бұрын
You’re correct - Q designation means it’s equipped with the Active Noise/Vibration Suppression System (ANVS). However the vibration of a turboprop takes their toll on the sensors of the system and often the system is unserviceable or operating in a degraded mode.
You should try the majestic dash 8 q400
I would like to learn more about the Dash-8 Landing gears
Question. Why does the Q400 pitch down when flaps are extending? Flap design / centre of pressure? Or increased downforce on the tail? Or something else?
The reason for the Dash7 having 4 engines is that there were no suitable engines ,at the time is was designed , to make it a twin engine. The secondary reason is that 4 propellers instead of 2 makes for more air steam over the wing improving STOL performances.
@calvinnickel9995
7 күн бұрын
There were suitable engines. The RR Dart and Allison 501 would have been perfectly fine. The sole reason was to bathe nearly the entire wing in prop wash for the STOL performance.
I like your analysis but i just want to correct one thing. The horizontal stab provides lift but in the opposite direction. The lift vector is downward rather than upward.
Late to the game here but great video. I have always thought this was a cool plane. Even more so after this. One question…what are the three little balls on the centre windshield pillar? They are on other aircraft to and I have always been curious.
@FlyByMax
7 ай бұрын
Thanks! The little balls are to make sure the pilot's seating position is correct (not too high or low, or forward or backward). If I remember correctly, if you are sitting in the right position then two balls align with each other. Cheers!
the Q is my favourite!!! (q for quiet except NVS never works heheh)
Why airberlin? Good video.
Horizontal stabilizers/elevators conventionally push *downwards* to balance and positively stabilize the plane. More airflow means it pushes the tail downwards, which is exceptionally bad in an aircraft that only has a maximum of maybe 8 degrees rotation. Then you risk tail strike. Edit: You've somewhat confused thickness (thickness-to-chord ratio) and "aspect ratio," too. The designers chose such a thin section to enhance the Dash 8's maximum speed at the cost of low-speed performance. Still, no airliner is really going less than 12% for the ratio. If you look at the root of a 737, it's definitely going to be thicker, because the structural requirements are much higher for that swept wing, but. If you measure it as a ratio of the chord, it's still in the ballpark of 12%. Below that, there's no great drag reduction, but the structural requirements are more challenging as you have less beam strength to work with.
@FlyByMax
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment. At 7:36 I specifically define aspect ratio as the wingspan divided by the cord length (as visualised on screen), so I do not see how I have confused it with thickness-to-cord at all. It is a fact that the Q400 has a higher aspect ratio wing than most jet aircraft. The Dash 8 has an aspect ratio of 12.32, compared to the Boeing 737 which has an aspect ratio of 9.45, Airbus A350 with 9.25, Boeing 777: 9.96... and so on. Although I deliberately did not go into detail in the video, the reason for this high aspect ratio is due to the speeds that the Dash 8 flies at. High aspect ratio wings create less induced drag relative to low aspect ratio wings with the same wing area. This means they achieve a higher lift/drag ratio at low speeds and are therefore more efficient. This NASA page explains it very clearly :) www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/VirtualAero/BottleRocket/airplane/geom.html#:~:text=Aspect%20ratio%20is%20a%20measure,is%20given%20the%20symbol%20AR.
Hi, Can you please explain why Dash Q 400 features a significantly large horizontal tail (16.7 sq. m with much bigger volume coefficient of ~1.7 ) compared to ATR 72 (11.7 sq. m with volume coefficient of ~1.1)?
Turbo-prop engine is more fuel efficient than turbo-fan engine on same distance per passenger. I guess, if we ever return to travel like we used to, propfan engines will see their rise and they will solve their noise levels fast (more efficient than turboprops). Horizontal stabilizer is on top of vertical due to prop wash and it is common for aircrafts with high wins/ engines or engines mounted on vertical stabilizer... Be-200, B727, An225, Tu154, Tu134, Atr42/72...
I’m a copilot of a q400 and I can say it’s a beast! You have the risk of overspending with 1 engine inop up to 8000 feet😂
hey t here, someone can help ? I installed Q4XP on Xplane 11 and I can not turn on/off switches... there is a hand (like the mouse) but when I cli nothing happens... :( thanks a lot
I love flying on the q 400 I don’t know the gross weight the dash 8 is but an engineering question I have. Could two turbo charged Allison V 12’s work with this plane?
Should’ve redeveloped the q300 series, would’ve had the regional/domestic turboprop market on lock
I know atr 72 is not the same but it still got some similarities right?
What about atr?
4:55 you do need ramp agents and a beltloader to load n offload the q400 as the floor of hold is just below 6ft of the ground and there is no internal access to the hold. This is coming from a rampy who works on them day in day out.
Please do a seres